The generic Hearts thread

[Ozyhibby]

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/...budge-21729796

Players not keen on wage cut. I’m shocked.


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[G B Young]

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Well, just tell me 1 that went along with our behavioral based approach.

Best examples are across Africa and the Middle East where there are nations without a semblance of a strategy. Egypt, the most populous, is especially horrendous:

https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinio...disaster-china

My point, though, was that I'm not convinced we've got it any more 'wrong' than any other nation when we're still seeing 500 people a day dying in Italy and hundreds across the likes of Spain and Portugal. There's no 'right' solution yet as the bottom line is nobody yet knows where this is going and there's simply no political mileage to be gained when it comes to a crisis like this.

Apologies if I've dragged this thread off course. I'll move to the Holy Ground for any further CV discussion.

Back on topic, it's mind-boggling that Levein and Macphee are still at Hearts, let alone trying to portray themselves as top blokes for agreeing salary cuts. What exactly are they getting paid for?!

I'm guessing they continue to hang around in the hope that in the event of what appears to be Stendel's likely departure they might just weasel back into a position of influence.

[ScottB]

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If you like facts you should check worldometers.info. It records cases and deaths for all countries around the world. I accept that the figures cannot be accurate but it gives an indication of what is happening. Of the countries that are able to be analysed the UK has the 10th highest number of cases and 7th highest number of deaths. However if you look at the number of cases/1m population the UK is one of the best performing countries. I suspect being an island has helped. For what its worth I don't think he has done a lot wrong to date and that applies to all the leaders of the devolved governments as well.

The UK has been actively not testing, even people reporting acute symptoms. Comparing us to nations that have been testing everyone that moves, like China or South Korea, is a waste of time.

[whiskyhibby]

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Come on Hibs.net to get away from chat about CV guys. Let’s not turn the threads into huge political debates regarding gas Boris got it right or wrong or if you hate the tories or hate the SNP.

There are other forums for that and if I want poorly thought out political debate I’ll spend my time on Facebook!


Well said

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[Roxyhibee]

Does anyone know if any of these articles (in particular The Times and Herald) have been even acknowledged by the deluded androids on JKB.?

[Bostonhibby]

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Does anyone know if any of these articles (in particular The Times and Herald) have been even acknowledged by the deluded androids on JKB.?

The Duncans are so far ahead of the rest of society generally that they are reading next weeks papers.

Had a bit of a chat with the family yam who sees it as great business practice by Budge to put Hearts before everything else. He's employed by the council and pretty secure in his job so I said I'd heard the council would have to make similar savings.

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[Billy Whizz]

Fraser Wishart coming on Sportsound, as the PFA, will be interested to hear what he says about this!
My view is I do think players should take some sort of reduction, it’s maybe the budge went about it

[G B Young]

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So no people involved then, always wondered what the horses would get up to if left to their own devices

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Seriously though you would still presumably have jockeys, trainers, stable staff, officials, course employees etc involved so not sure why that would be deemed safe. In the same way I can't see why golf is continuing at some courses. Yes the clubhouses may be shut but a fourball brings everyone into pretty close proximity.

[Real Emerald]

The horses I’m betting on are obeying the social distancing rules, they’re staying 2 metres behind all the other horses! 😊

[Bostonhibby]

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The horses I’m betting on are obeying the social distancing rules, they’re staying 2 metres behind all the other horses!

Same here.

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[Bostonhibby]

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Seriously though you would still presumably have jockeys, trainers, stable staff, officials, course employees etc involved so not sure why that would be deemed safe. In the same way I can't see why golf is continuing at some courses. Yes the clubhouses may be shut but a fourball brings everyone into pretty close proximity.

I do feel it's flies in the face of the advice to have close downs like now exist which might be say 95% successful only to have one outbreak spread from whatever part of the 5% this sort of exception might represent.



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[Moulin Yarns]

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Seriously though you would still presumably have jockeys, trainers, stable staff, officials, course employees etc involved so not sure why that would be deemed safe. In the same way I can't see why golf is continuing at some courses. Yes the clubhouses may be shut but a fourball brings everyone into pretty close proximity.

You've not seen me playing golf.

[SuperAllyMcleod]

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The hertz are goin doon wae Cowowner virus.
Ahll get ma coat.

As fir that name Clevid 28 sounds like a new disease awe the gither

I love the fact that everyone ignored this, not one single comment, quote or reply (until now) - it’s the digital equivalent of tumbleweed - which is what it deserved to be honest.

[007]

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https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/...budge-21729796

Players not keen on wage cut. I’m shocked.


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Article by Liam Bryce. The old 1 letter switcheroo trick. 😁

[Wee Effen Bee]

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You need to read the exact facts on this. You'll find in-fact, that Scotland has stood still in the rankings at position 13. Not bad a for tiny small country though eh!

The actual figures go onto show that if the UK was split into country rankings, England would be way below the Scottish ranking.

It’s also true to say the underlying trend for exam results is rising. Of course, the problem we have is our curriculum is far advanced skills-learning system as opposed to fact learning. As has often expressed said, equating our ‘results’ with other countries is like comparing apples and oranges.

[Eyrie]

Football contracts commit both sides to the deal for a fixed period, so the players are fully entitled to decline the pay cut and sit tight. I think Mo Johnston did that when Hearts tried to get him to accept a cheap pay off many years ago. Hearts eventually made him a better offer to end his contract early.

It's worth remembering that clubs are quick to hold players to contracts when it suits them.

[Tomsk]

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So has he been places and done hings or not?

I'm confused

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I'm confused he ever got a job as a manager. There really is one born every minute.

[Bostonhibby]

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I'm confused he ever got a job as a manager. There really is one born every minute.

There was a time when a shabby trackie, a shouty voice, a big purple face that looked ready to explode and some form of connection to Hearts was a prerequisite for a managerial or coaching role at some clubs in scotland.

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[Tomsk]

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There was a time when a shabby trackie, a shouty voice, a big purple face that looked ready to explode and some form of connection to Hearts was a prerequisite for a managerial or coaching role at some clubs in scotland.

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Let's keep our voices down. Remember he was once on the staff at Easter Road too.

[Bostonhibby]

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Let's keep our voices down. Remember he was once on the staff at Easter Road too.

Never wanted him there, as you say, embarrassing

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[Joe6-2]

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Never wanted him there, as you say, embarrassing

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Who of a Hibs persuasion did want him??

[Hibernianinc]

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Two quick points to make

I think the only 2 options on the table football-wise are (i) Hearts get relegated on basis of current points IF all clubs are to receive end of season payments OR (ii) the remaining games are played after the virus crisis passes, in which case they are favourites to go down and have 8 games to save their Prem status.

And regarding the politics, Scots are in the unique position of having the best NHS in these islands, the best education system, and a policy framework that has (over the past 13 years) protected public services much more than Down South. That there are c.50% of people (mostly the elderly) who take take take all that and STILL think England knows best just makes me despair for them, but we are in the best shape of any nation in these islands to handle what's coming (and it will be awful, but at a crisis time like this I for one am grateful that neither New Labour or the neo con Tories are anywhere near real power in Scotland). People have no idea how decimated the NHS is down south for example.

Stay safe everyone

I agree 👍

We are lucky to have credible leadership.

[Deansy]

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You need to read the exact facts on this. You'll find in-fact, that Scotland has stood still in the rankings at position 13. Not bad a for tiny small country though eh!

The actual figures go onto show that if the UK was split into country rankings, England would be way below the Scottish ranking.

Soon as I clicked onto it and realised it was the BBC I clicked off immediately - can't be arsed with 'Fake news' !

[jacomo]

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Let's keep our voices down. Remember he was once on the staff at Easter Road too.

The most baffling appointment I can remember. Dark times.

[MrSmith]

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Soon as I clicked onto it and realised it was the BBC I clicked off immediately - can't be arsed with 'Fake news' !

If you move past the BBC report and google the headline, you will find The Express, The Daily Mail, The Sun, The Times, The Telegraph, The Spectator etc, all offering the same story with their added negative spin.

Anyway, I know there is a forum for politics so, back on track, FTH!

Hope they get relegated :D

[Sammy7nil]

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Two quick points to make

I think the only 2 options on the table football-wise are (i) Hearts get relegated on basis of current points IF all clubs are to receive end of season payments OR (ii) the remaining games are played after the virus crisis passes, in which case they are favourites to go down and have 8 games to save their Prem status.

And regarding the politics, Scots are in the unique position of having the best NHS in these islands, the best education system, and a policy framework that has (over the past 13 years) protected public services much more than Down South. That there are c.50% of people (mostly the elderly) who take take take all that and STILL think England knows best just makes me despair for them, but we are in the best shape of any nation in these islands to handle what's coming (and it will be awful, but at a crisis time like this I for one am grateful that neither New Labour or the neo con Tories are anywhere near real power in Scotland). People have no idea how decimated the NHS is down south for example.

Stay safe everyone

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...itics-38207729

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Our education system isnt the best and the snp arent doing as good a job with it as some would want us to believe.

Don't let facts get in the way please.

[Phil MaGlass]

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Soon as I clicked onto it and realised it was the BBC I clicked off immediately - can't be arsed with 'Fake news' !

THIS ft EBC

[1875M]

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Two quick points to make

I think the only 2 options on the table football-wise are (i) Hearts get relegated on basis of current points IF all clubs are to receive end of season payments OR (ii) the remaining games are played after the virus crisis passes, in which case they are favourites to go down and have 8 games to save their Prem status.

And regarding the politics, Scots are in the unique position of having the best NHS in these islands, the best education system, and a policy framework that has (over the past 13 years) protected public services much more than Down South. That there are c.50% of people (mostly the elderly) who take take take all that and STILL think England knows best just makes me despair for them, but we are in the best shape of any nation in these islands to handle what's coming (and it will be awful, but at a crisis time like this I for one am grateful that neither New Labour or the neo con Tories are anywhere near real power in Scotland). People have no idea how decimated the NHS is down south for example.

Stay safe everyone

As a teacher, I can sadly say our education system is nowhere near the best. If anything, it’s declining.

[greenpaper55]

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Two quick points to make

I think the only 2 options on the table football-wise are (i) Hearts get relegated on basis of current points IF all clubs are to receive end of season payments OR (ii) the remaining games are played after the virus crisis passes, in which case they are favourites to go down and have 8 games to save their Prem status.

And regarding the politics, Scots are in the unique position of having the best NHS in these islands, the best education system, and a policy framework that has (over the past 13 years) protected public services much more than Down South. That there are c.50% of people (mostly the elderly) who take take take all that and STILL think England knows best just makes me despair for them, but we are in the best shape of any nation in these islands to handle what's coming (and it will be awful, but at a crisis time like this I for one am grateful that neither New Labour or the neo con Tories are anywhere near real power in Scotland). People have no idea how decimated the NHS is down south for example.

Stay safe everyone

Thank you Nicola ! Please take your SNP propaganda elsewhere as this is a football forum. Looks like you cannot wait to see the back of us elderly to fulfil your dreams ?

[marinello59]

Any chance of just sticking to football here? There’s a separate forum for anybody who wants to talk politics.
Thanks.