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Be great if it’s a nice clean handover.[emoji1696][emoji1696][emoji1696]Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
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It needs to be......Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Clinton’s backing Harris.[emoji106]
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Some typically unclassy comments from the blob that is Trump. It's utterly incomprehensible that people can vote for this madman.
With the Clintons backing Harris it really cant be anyone else now without a **** show at the convention.
Both they and the Obama's would've played a big part in convincing Biden his time was up. I expect a statement from Barack will soon appear
It's correct that Biden steps aside but is the US ready to vote for a black woman as President?
I'm not sure it is.
I think it’s all about the VP pick now. Only one to watch now is Newsome. He can’t be VP so may feel he wants to go for it but I really doubt it. He won’t have the backers, money or time to mount an effective campaign against Harris at such short notice. He has plenty time in future.Quote:
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Against Trump I think they will.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveF
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Obama statement is out but tellingly he doesn't endorse anyone
Obama issues a statement. No backing for Harris in it.
And Michelle's not running apparently.Quote:
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To be honest, in the run up to the election a few weeks ago all I saw was SNP and Libdems with the occasional alba and reform and very few Labour. That was from Perthshire to John o'groats. See how that worked out!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Berwickhibby
Yiu traveled a fair bit during the election then. :greengrinQuote:
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I know they are biased but CNN has been pretty informative tonight.
Aljazeera giving some really widespread coverage. Worth tuning in to.Quote:
Originally Posted by marinello59
In California, Quite a few in San Francisco not so many in Los AngelesQuote:
Originally Posted by Bristolhibby
Fox News in us is horrific. Full on Harris bashing. Campaign will be utterly vile.
Those will be solid blue states come November.Quote:
Originally Posted by Berwickhibby
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Reckon there's a decent chance she will. Hypothetical poll of Biden alternatives had her as the only candidate to beat Trumphttps://x.com/Ground_app/status/1808630845001044043?t=oDzHegvt2eX6EpKLo5tbdA&s=19Quote:
Originally Posted by Hiber-nation
I was on holiday up north the last week of June.Quote:
Originally Posted by marinello59
I think there is almost zero chance she runs. She has shown no interest so far and is untested. If she ever decides in future it will be in a longer campaign and not against a VP.Quote:
Originally Posted by GlesgaeHibby
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I think she jumps up once nominated as people usually do. All his material about Biden being old is getting ripped up incase it's used against him. I don't think he'll like the debates against a trained lawyer, definitely a race is on
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CNN Poll of Polls
June 28-July 18
POTENTIAL 2024 ELECTORATE
Choice For President
NO CLEAR LEADER
Trump 48%
Harris 47%
(This is CNN’s average of six most recent national polls, conducted after the debate.)
They need to stop using national polls. They should just poll the main purple states as that is where this will be won and lost. Harris will rack up millions of extra votes in California and Trump will do the same in Texas but it won’t change much either way. Both candidates will be focussed on key states that are in play to flip either way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
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Yeah I agree but it does show she's had about a 0.8% bump from Biden and I think one she's confirmed it's tight. It's certainly not the formality some are saying in my opinionQuote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
DaveF made the point a few pages back - she needs to overcome being a woman/person of colour in what is still a misogynistic and racist political system...obviousy Obama proved it's not impossible, but I'm concerned being a woman will go against her for many.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
But she is a safer, and more logical choice (from a campaign fund perspective if nothing else!) than any other possible candidates.
Agree that is a huge factor in the US hopefully common sense prevails though have my doubtsQuote:
Originally Posted by Sylar
Given the way the electoral college is weighted, you really need at least a five point lead in the national vote to get the swing states on board for a Democratic win. Anything less than that will be a Republican victory.Quote:
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Originally Posted by Hiber-nation
I personally don't have any issues with Michelle Obama or Hilary Clinton... well, maybe a bit with Clinton... but Biden and two ex-Presidents' wives as the Democrat candidates?Quote:
Originally Posted by GlesgaeHibby
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They are not candidates though?Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
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Pelosi and Jeffries backing Harris now. Hard to see anyone standing against her now.
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Twitter and the American right is a complete abomination
I tend to stay away from Twitter now but I have the odd peak and it's such a sad read
Zero compassion or humanity about it
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Elon Musk and his Fredo posts, deary me he really is a utter tool.Quote:
Originally Posted by Callum_62
Harris impressive in that speech there.[emoji106]
Nice to see a candidate with some life.
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/othe...2ea1da842&ei=7 A Zoom event with 44,000 Black women supporting Kamala Harris reportedly raised $1.5 million.
Her fundraising has been phenomenal this week, many donors were just wanting anyone elseQuote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
Notice Trump has reverted to type with a nasty personal attack on Harris, his turning a new leaf since the assination attempt didn't last long.
https://x.com/ronfilipkowski/status/...dxJXScFNwz8V4A
I’m still confident Trump loses and that this guy hurts him more than helps.
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He is well suited to Trump. How this sort of stuff has become normalised in the US is incredible. How can anyone with a functioning brain cell contemplate voting for these idiots.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
That's deplorable, sad wee man. The fact that he wants to ban ivf whilst saying this furthers his cruelty. Does this dweeb think he has more of a stake in America than childless George WashingtonQuote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
I fear with the rise of Trump's mate Nigel, that we probably won't be too far away from stuff like that being normalised here. The 'funny' thing is, a lot of the people coming out with or supporting this sort of thing seem to be 'extreme' Christians and will probably be the sort that describe people following 'extreme' Islam as terrorists. They are essentially extreme Christian terrorists.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveF
If Trump does win, he'll be worse this time round. Last time you felt Pence did try to reign him in at times or if he didn't at least looked embarrassed by him sometimes. This time, the VP is arguably worse than Trump and will be encouraging him on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
Definitely don't want Trump egged on, except in a strictly John Prescott sort of a way. :agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by overdrive
The first time round, I think he was also hampered by his lack of experience and knowledge of government and how things work, and couldn't carry out some of his grimmer plans. He's said that this time, he'll be replacing governmet lawyers and key officials with loyalists.Quote:
Originally Posted by overdrive
Sorry, I didn't make it clear: Clinton was the candidate in 2016, Biden in 2020 and the poster suggested Obama was/is being considered this time. Just seems such a narrow and unimaginative group in a country of over 300 million people.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Trump picked Vance because he promised to do what Pence wouldn't.
Biden has been an excellent President though. He has been a good pick.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
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Decent start but need purple state polls.
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Totally normal
https://x.com/KamalaHQ/status/181543...CqdHM7OxQ&s=19
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Looks like Kennedy hurts Trump more than Harris. Not surprising.
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I look at a few political articles but that's the first time I've seen this guy at a rally. Angry jambo vibes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Callum_62
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Trump could be regretting picking Vance who he picked when expecting to face Biden. I saw someone say tough you can't abort you need to have him to full term..
https://newrepublic.com/post/184106/...-kamala-harris
Vance is the least liked VP nominee (non-incumbent) since 1980 following his/her party's convention. The average since then has been plus 19, Vance is negative 6 ouch
That's what Trump gets for picking a millennial, never going to swing boomer votes!Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
Wow, they're now claiming that Biden is either dead, or so senile that he's not aware he's no longer the presidential candidate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
What a bunch of wack jobs.
This is good. If that’s what their campaign is going to be then let them go for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
Joe’s about to go on tele mind so it might be a hard sell.
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Watching Trump speech on CNN just now and I had forgot just how bad he is. The man is a clown.
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Democrats need 3 of these to win. Democrat convention usually brings a bump. A vice president pick from one of these states will help too. Certainly not over already
@EmersonPolling
SWING STATE POLLS with
@thehill
Harris v. Trump
Arizona: Trump 49%, Harris 44%
Georgia: Trump 48%, Harris 46%
Michigan: Trump 46%, Harris 45%
Pennsylvania: Trump 48%, Harris 46%
Wisconsin: Trump 47%, Harris 47%
Is that live or taken before Biden pulled out?Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
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Day after Biden pulled outQuote:
Originally Posted by Bristolhibby
How is it that half of America wants to vote for that ****ing idiot Trump?Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
Yep, the man just bumbles endless, incoherent nonsense, e.g.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
"They’re coming not just from South America, but from Africa, from Asia, from the Middle East. They’re coming from everywhere. They’re coming from all over the world from prisons and jails, mental institutions, and insane asylums!
You know, they go crazy when I say the late great Hannibal Lecter, ok? They say, “Why would he mention Hannibal Lecter? He must be cognitively in trouble.”
No, no. These are real stories. Hannibal Lecter from Silence of the Lamb. He’s a lovely man. He wants to have you for dinner. He’d like to have you for dinner."
I mean, WTAF!
https://x.com/alexhallhall/status/18...dxJXScFNwz8V4A
Made me laugh.[emoji23]
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That is brilliant.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Watching Harris give a speech after her meeting with Netanyahu and it was like she was already President. The more she presents herself like that will be a massive help.
And what she said was better than Biden as well.
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In the same way Johnson got a huge landslide when he was elected, can't fix stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
He's going to make America great again, like he did last time.Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
They really believe it. Putin wants it.
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That's tremendousQuote:
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Gap is closing. Need to keep Kennedy in the race.
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https://x.com/acyn/status/1817007890...dxJXScFNwz8V4A
We won’t be able to say we were not warned.
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Scary how he says that out loud and people will still vote for him.Quote:
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28% of Undecideds say immigration is the biggest factor for them which shows why build a wall is winning votes, 57% of republicans, 10% Dems.
2.8 million crossed the border illegally last year but many were also caught. Net migration was about 1.5 million in the US. The US population is 5 times ours and we had net migration of 800k a few years ago. Surprised immigration hasn't been a bigger issue here, Farage with his few seats and the same as vote share as UKIP a decade ago.
Because as aging western societies immigration being a bad thing is a misnomer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
We need young working age people to do the **** jobs, pay their taxes, spend in our economy and pay into our pension pots (again pay taxes).
Ralphie May (RIP) makes a great point. Who will pick your salads if it weren’t for Mexicans? Without Mexicans your Caesar Salad would cost $30!
America needs immigrants for its economy to work. The country was founded on immigration. Yet now it’s been told that it’s “full up”. Nonsense.
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The stupidity of some of them on immigration is that native Americans have been told to go back to where they came from. 🙄
So is Trump going back to the Isle of LewisQuote:
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Funnily enough, he's already married two immigrants.Quote:
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No mention of sending people back to the Czech Republic or Slovenia, though.
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That’s pretty big movements in a week.
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Kennedy offered to endorse Trump for president in exchange for a position in his administration, Trump refused.Quote:
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Will Trump change his mind as we get nearer the election if Harris is winning in the polls?
Just back from the West coast and I was surprised (not pleasantly) to see how many Trump baseball caps being worn and Trump merchandise being sold in shops
seriously, wtf is wrong with this old man https://x.com/meralhece/status/1817443402100756602 Trump: We will be creating so much electricity that you'll be saying, please, please, president, we don't want any more electricity. We can't stand it. You'll be begging me. No more electricity, sir. We have enough. We have enough. he's a total freakazoid
Seems to be the Harris tactic now is to highlight how weird he is rather than how dangerous he is.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
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exit polls were saying Maduro opposition way ahead, now amazingly it looks like he's won :bitchy: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz5rj2mzgevo The head of the National Electoral Council (CNE), Elvis Amoroso, who is a close ally of Mr Maduro, said that with 80% of votes counted, President Maduro had 51.2% of the vote, compared to 44.2% for his main rival.The Venezuelan opposition has alleged widespread fraud in the counting of votes, and has vowed to challenge the result. this is freakin awful everyone thinking Maduro was out https://x.com/mjfree/status/1817723292255735924 and https://x.com/Out5p0ken/status/1817763945387635087
she could easily alternate, he's both after all, thankfully a big backlash from women against comments made by that other PoS VanceQuote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
As much as I dislike the opposition leader the vote was ridiculous. All the independent polls had the opposition 60% to 30% on average. For the result to be the opposite of that is ridiculous. South American elections are something else haQuote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
Antony Blinken calls it out and the left wing leader of Chile says the result is hard to believe in any serious way and Chile won't honour the result
JD Vance suggesting women be prevented travelling between states so they can’t avoid abortion ban.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
And yet he is one of the swivelled eyed mob screaming about 15minute cities when these just about being able to walk to the shops!!!
The ‘Weird’ messaging is really working. What a difference Harris is making after just one week.
#NEW @MorningConsult / Bloomberg News Poll:
MICHIGAN
Harris 53% (+11)
Trump 42%
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WISCONSIN
Harris 49% (+2)
Trump 47%
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ARIZONA
Harris 49% (+2)
Trump 47%
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NEVADA
Harris 47% (+2)
Trump 45%
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GEORGIA
Harris 47%
Trump 47%
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NORTH CAROLINA
Trump 48% (+2)
Harris 46%
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PENNSYLVANIA
Trump 50% (+4)
Harris 46%
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If that's a major factor then I find it a bit baffling – are people just not paying attention until it's directly pointed out to them? Not complaining obviously.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Earlier this year, the Democrats did a survey of 'gettable' non-Trumpy, non-election-denying voters in a few of the swing states, and a very comfortable majority of the people questioned had not heard the threats Trump was making about suspending the constitution, using the forces of law and order or military to oppress his political opponents etc... And there has been a huge amount of learned discussion about the paths to autocracy being laid and comaprisons made with elsewhere and with our own experience of the past... the planned dismantling of institutions that Americans depend on... how this is likely to affect normal Americans... false equivalency in the media, and so on. People either aren't hearing the stuff that's being said by Trump and the pantomine villains who are advising him - out loud and in the open! - , or they aren't hearing or relating to the opposition to it, or they don't see why they shoud care. If an appeal to reason and conscience isn't going to work, maybe pointing and laughing is the answer?Quote:
Originally Posted by nonshinyfinish
It's like the discussion of the UK exiting the ECHR here. No one in the msm discusses the full repercussions of this. It's framed in context to migrants but the ECHR covers so many rights we take for granted.Quote:
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I think that everyone who sees Trump as a threat to democracy may already be on board after 8 years of him being on the scene and this new tact may just be working in bringing a few more over.Quote:
Originally Posted by s.a.m
It’s hard to vote for someone who is becoming a national joke (hence Biden being stood down) and it won’t take much to portray trump and Vance as deeply unserious people.
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Yup. It's depressing.Quote:
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You're probably right. Maybe they need to take the same approach to some of his wild 'policy' ideas.Quote:
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Type ‘stop calling us weird’ on Twitter search for some fun Maga scrolling.
Harris is proving to be a very smart campaigner.
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Only seen some snippets online but looks like Trump had a nightmare of an interview with three ladies from the National Association of Black Journalists, made himself look quite foolish
Talking about Harris, said one minute she's Indian the next she's black, wants to make up her mind, she's a mixed race black Asian, so she's both ffs.Quote:
Originally Posted by McD
Cringed myself inside out watching that. How can those journalists sit there and listen to this?!Quote:
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her campaign, thus far, has been an absolute tour de force, which was not what i was expecting. massive credit to her and her team :aok:
hopefully, if she gets in, she can bring about an actual, proper green new deal that would chase fascism away from the gate.
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I think they were letting him tie himself in knots tbh, the clips I’ve seen they were challenging him on the language used by him, his supporters and republicans, they challenged the DEI angle that his people have been pushing,
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Here’s hoping mate 🤞
Just checked the Olympic Medals table for shooting and it goes a long way to explaining why the Orange One is still breathing.
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