https://www.theguardian.com/politics...aders-in-wales
The more I see of Starmer the less I like.
If this was Boris we'd be having a field day
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics...aders-in-wales
The more I see of Starmer the less I like.
If this was Boris we'd be having a field day
That's what happens when you post early in the morning!Quote:
Originally Posted by neil7908
Hahaha my bad! Like you say, far too early!Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
He is deranged. Wonder if anything will be done about this latest violation of this release conditions?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7N3N70coZM
Jeez, that guy doesn't half like talking, I thought he'd never come to the point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oscar T Grouch
:agree: :TLDL:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
You only get paid if your video goes past the 10 minute mark.[emoji6]Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
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The newly elected Republican speaker of the US House of Representatives is Mike Johnson, a Trump ally who said doctors who give abortion care should be “imprisoned at hard labor for 1-10 years and fined $10k to $100k.”
What is going on in the US ...?
Mafia tactics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oscar T Grouch
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another court case for the pumkin-faced bum Trump to face new trial next week after losing ploy to ditch Colorado ballot suit (msn.com)
He looks out his nut.Quote:
Originally Posted by lapsedhibee
I had to Google the meaning of TLDL :greengrin
Just last year, Johnson was voting against the US supporting Ukraine.
He's as mad as Trump.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F9nxY8QW...pg&name=medium
So Trump had his gagging order re-instated after the Judge (Tanya Chutkin) manoeuvred him & his legal team to box themselves into a corner. She has shown that his rhetoric about not understanding what he is and is not allowed to say is hyperbole and therefore would not advance up the appeals court system, she done this using court records so it is undeniable by Trump's legal team and therefore proved that an appeal at any level would be fruitless without admitting to perjury! She even gave him examples of what is and what is not permitted under the gagging order (this is extraordinary from a judge who would normally just pass the order and expect those under it to understand and abide by it). The judge waved calls from the prosecution to make breaking the order automatic jail time, basically saying she would look at each case individually, she know he will break it and cannot be seen to issue an order that will just jail Trump. So all these extra bits and extending the limits and pandering to Trump has not changed him one iota. Because yesterday he broke the gagging order with quite a spectacular post on Truth social, spectacular insomuch as it literally did everything the judge the previous day had said was not permissible. Trump will needed to stand in front of the judge now and explain his contempt, as will his legal team. As an aside at the time of re-instating the order she explained unequivocally why the gagging order is not effected by the 1st amendment which also means Trump cannot stand in front of her and say that it is his 1st amendment right to say what he said. Trump faces $1000s of fines or he can be sent to jail but I feel Judge Chutkin is keeping that on the back burner for the moment anyway.
also
TL:DR - Trump has managed to back himself and his legal team into a very tight, expensive corner of the US Judicial system.
Trump testifying today in his tax fraud case:
Counsel: did you prepare the 2021 financial statement
Trump: I was so busy in the White House, focusing on Russia and China and keeping our country safe
Counsel: you weren’t president then
I read that earlier 😄Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
https://www.meidastouch.com/news/don...estifies-in-ny
:greengrinQuote:
Trump then reiterated his primary defense to this case - that he had a "disclaimer" clause with every financial statement (which he calls a "worthless clause") that he claims renders everything in the statement useless because he warned the reader not to believe any of the numbers that were in it. He claimed that the banks he dealt with didn't even use them in making their decisions because they really wanted to make the deals with him.
Some local interest:
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Trump was then asked about his golf course in Scotland. (In his deposition he claimed that the reason why he valued it at more than double his purchase price a very short time later was because he might someday develop and sell houses on the course, which made it worth more). The AG pointed out that he never actually built any of the 1,100 additional houses he claimed and that he isn't building anything there right now. Trump responded, "I'm in no rush. I'm not looking to build right now. I'm doing other things right now. I just want to sit with it. It's an investment."
That’s like my house. It’s actually worth £94.45m because I have plans to build a tower to rival the burj khalifa in my back garden. I haven’t started work yet or gained any permissions to do so but I’ve informed the bank of the new value and I expect to be able to borrow about £70m from them soon. Of course my council tax band should remain E until my new tower is finished.Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
Disclaimer:- I made up some of these figures and valuations.
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Lock him up!
I think he has planning for all the houses though?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Unbelievable or perhaps not, polling continues to be terrible for Biden
https://twitter.com/axios/status/1721174023462141973
@axios
If the election were held today, former President Donald Trump would easily beat President Joe Biden with over 300 electoral votes, according to a new swing state poll from The New York Times and Siena College
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Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
Well, it isn’t so he won’t. Next.
If Ozyhibby manages to bribe a council official to give him planning permission for his magnificent tower structure, then realises it was a crazy notion that someone sensible should have talked him out of and puts his house on the market cos all his neighbours are laughing at him... the planning permission might make it attractive to some other dreamer who wants to build the exact same thing, but I don't think he could value it as if he already had the building and its amenities as part of the estate. Because it's an unfulfilled intention, with all the expense of actually doing it currently unspent. I'm happy to be corrected, because i don't know anything about real estate, but I don't think you can claim value for things that aren't there but could be if someone else paid for them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibs4185
I don't think the Dems will be so blasé less than 12 months to go. Polls and bookmakers have reps narrow favourites. Republicans have played smart with the whole, the world is against us nonsense narrative. It's also surprising the Dems don't have a better candidate. If Biden wins he'll be 86 at the end of term and doesn't look the best for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by MKHIBEE
The trail outcome you'd think would change things but I'm dubious for most of these nutters
I still think Biden will win but they would be better with a new candidate. Problem is, nobody is going for it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
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How common is it that a sitting president is challenged for their party's nomination after their first term? For the elections I remember it's always seemed like a given that they're nominated again unchallenged, but I don't know if that's always been the case.
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Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
I was listening to a podcast where they were talking about Jimmy Carter having been challenged, and the damaging effect it had on his candidacy and on his subsequent defeat. You can only assume that Phillips is acting out of self-interest / ambition, because he has close to no chance and the likely outcome is that a washing-your-dirty-linen-in-public internal battle diminishes Biden's chances. He's an unknown, and there doesn't seem to be any kind of surge of support for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by nonshinyfinish
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Originally Posted by nonshinyfinish
It is fairly rare, for a few reasons. Firstly, there’s usually horse trading going on in the background, secondly unless the other side are in total disarray then there’s always the fear within your party that it’ll split votes and cause ructions, and I think there’s also the fear of being perceived as the person who challenged a president from within, so people shy away. Whatever history judges, most presidents are popular at some point, or they’d never get the job, people eying the top job don’t want to be seen to rock the boat too much as they plan their way to the White House.
It’s also interesting to see how many single term presidents there have been relatively recently. Trump, then the next one is George H. W. Bush over 30 years ago, then Carter, then Ford. Even Nixon was re-elected. For the last 50ish years, presidents have tended to stick around, keeping their party united behind them.
There is land at his estate which is suitable for housing and there was models with all tye houses shown. I’m sure he got planning for the houses, it’s maybe expired but if there is planing for say 100-200 houses then it will def increase the value of his estate.Quote:
Originally Posted by s.a.m
Some housing estates are £20k a plot, some are £50-£100k a plot. All depended on location and desirability.
Even 100 houses at £40k is £4 million so it’s not going to be worth a £100 million more but he can claim the value has risen because the land that’s suite for houses will have a value.
Fair enough. Like I said, the potential may make the estate more attractive too someone who wants to take over the same project, but he seems to have made a habit of valuing his properties as if the potential had been realised. When he's applying for loans, that is. When he's submitting tax returns, he had a habit of undervaluing the same properties. From the evidence in the court case, there seems to have been a lot of, "well... hypothetically," involved in his financial submissions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibs4185
Not defending trump in any way shape or form and I'd find it funny if he gets done for this but no danger are you getting a plot of land in Palm Beach for £50-£100kQuote:
Originally Posted by Hibs4185
A cunning plan! What could go wrong?!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
:greengrin
He's talking about the Aberdeenshire estate. The massive difference in quotes between the council valuer and his for the Mar a Lago estate (if that's what you're talking about) are apparently accounted for by it being officially and purely a private club (its official status) which comes with many restrictions and regulations, rather than a private residence (Trump's valuation), which is worth many times more. He separately tried to value that estate at even lower than the local authority's valuation for tax purposes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mon Dieu4
Ah right, was about to get into the Florida real estate market hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by s.a.m
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Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
Is Biden really the best candidate the Democrats can come up with?
I realise it doesn't excuse the madness of people wanting to vote for Trump, but surely they can come up with a better option than an octogenarian.
You would have hoped they could however assume the madness of the likely opponent and their tribe would put a few off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
https://apple.news/ACBj762tHTxKYgvulwauH5A
Good article about the current fraud case
An article that appears to ignore the fact that Trump has already been found guilty?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibs4185
The rest of it is nonsense. Fraud is fraud, whether the banks themselves have been complicit or not.
? The author doesn't discuss why he provided alternative valuations for the same properties for different purposes (securing loans/ avoiding tax), or why he tripled the actual size of his NY property for valuation purposes. He seems only to be saying that, because Trump is famous, it doesn't matter, and it's the bank's fault of it is a problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibs4185
He made dishonest claims on official documents to get access to more money than he was entitled to and avoid paying money that he owed. And he he has already been found guilty of the fraud involved. They're just settling compensation and penalties now.
His financial director has already served time for separate fraudulent behaviour. The Trump Organisation was fined not long ago for tax fraud. He and his older kids had their charity wound up because they stole from it, and were banned from holding office in any New York charity.He had to compensate students of the former Trump University for various dishonest practices, including pretending it was a university. It's who he is and what he does.
https://x.com/rbreich/status/1723777...dxJXScFNwz8V4A
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Didn't realise he said immigrants are "poisoning the blood of our country." Horrible prickQuote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Fancy saying that about his motherQuote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
shoulda kept his gub shut :agree: Defamed Georgia poll workers want Giuliani to pay up to $43M for telling election lies (msn.com) all that needs deciding is how much it's going to cost him
I was just reading about Trump's mate, George Santos. Jeez, that guy's from a different planet!
Santos said: “If there was a single ounce of ETHICS in the ‘ethics committee’, they would have not released this biased report. The committee went to extraordinary lengths to smear myself and my legal team about me not being forthcoming (my legal bills suggest otherwise).
“It is a disgusting politicised smear that shows the depths of how low our federal government has sunk. Everyone who participated in this grave miscarriage of justice should all be ashamed of themselves.”
However......
'The report was accompanied by extensive appendices including evidence of apparent malpractice. Santos was shown to have spent donor money on vacations, luxury goods, Botox treatment and the website OnlyFans.'
...and...
'The committee said Santos had not co-operated, “continues to flout his statutory financial disclosure obligations and has failed to correct countless errors and omissions in his past [financial disclosure] statements, despite being repeatedly reminded … of his requirement to do so.
“The [committee] also found that, despite his attempts to blame others for much of the misconduct, Representative Santos was a knowing and active participant in the wrongdoing. Particularly troubling was Representative Santos’ lack of candour during the investigation itself.”'
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-ethics-report
Paul Pelosi attacker found guilty, now faces up to 30 years on one charge and up to 20 on another David DePape found guilty in Paul Pelosi hammer attack (msn.com)
another from the cult of trump ends up in the slammer
Yep pretty harsh.Quote:
Originally Posted by ACLeith
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/04/u...e=articleShare
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Wow a pretty terrifying article that. How has it got to this?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Frighteningly easily, and quickly. Both this, and the last few years in the UK, have shown us how many of the norms we thought were set in stone and protected depend on people in power acting in good faith, and on the country's behalf - whether you agreed with their aims and objectives or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimBHibees
I'm in the US, and I keep reading that most of the Republican Representatives and Senators hate Trump and, in private, say so. In public, they praise him because they're scared of losing votes or triggering thugs to threaten or attack them. They're basically crossing their fingers and hoping he has a massive stroke. Their failure to act on the multiple occasions when they could have done something has created a monster.
Yep you are spot on it has happened very easily and is you indicate very similar to the UK plus any number of other countries run by populists.Quote:
Originally Posted by s.a.m
How do you get populism/fascism back in the box? Once it's out it's very difficult to put back. Trump and Co will not be there forever, but others will follow in his footsteps emboldened by him. Those who follow the current populists will only get progressively worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimBHibees
Unfortunately think you are correctQuote:
Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
Increase people’s prosperity and reduce inequality. These movements thrive when people are struggling to get by and they positively bloom when that’s combined with the feeling that others are prospering at your expense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
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That's how you keep them in the box, not sure it's enough to put them back in or even possible once they have a say in what's decided.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
I agree with oz populism grows in times of economic strife. It was all to obvious after the crash that would follow covid. There would be constant fascism if fascism just grew and grew.
I remember people talking about the potential for a rise in populism when the austerity agenda was launched.
Paraphrasing someone from the US's tweet from a while back which went along the lines of...Quote:
Originally Posted by JimBHibees
"Fox News has managed to do to our parents the thing they imagined Heavy Metal records and Video Games were doing to us."
IE turned them into brainwashed crazies.
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i've mentioned Chris Christie on here before and watched a clip of him on CNN this morning and once again he talks very well, imo Bing Videos a Trump hater, what's not to like
His refusal to endorse a ban on assault weapons?Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
While he does speak well, I can't help thinking we've got to a strange place where we're measuring everyone against Trump.
Replace Fox News with Mail/ Express/ Telegraph/ Sun etc and you have the UK version.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kato
GB NewsQuote:
Originally Posted by babahibs
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Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
we all know that's not going to happen anytime soon :tin hat: the Anti- Trump part is just a bonus, it's good listening to a member of the GOP not trying to appease the members of the cult of Trump, it's really quite sad he's only getting approx 25% favourable in the polls
even less than Ramaswamy, who has now came up with a new "pledge" to Pardon Trump https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023...publicans.html
Of course, that too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/whi...ged-rcna128658
will he be allowed to share a cell with the big orange pumpkin :greengrin
LOS ANGELES, Dec 7 (Reuters) - The Department of Justice on Thursday filed new criminal charges against U.S. President Joe Biden's son, Hunter, accusing him of failing to pay $1.4 million in taxes while spending millions of dollars on a lavish lifestyle.
Hunter Biden, 53, was hit with three felony and six misdemeanor tax offenses, according to an indictment filed in U.S. District Court, Central District of California.
He faces up to 17 years in prison if convicted. The Justice Department said its investigation into Biden is ongoing.
Lucky he’s not running for election.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
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Didn't Nadhim Zahawi, who's from Iraq, fail to pay about twice that? He must have been very close to getting sent down for a decade or two. I wonder what saved him.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
Colorado Supreme Court just ruled that Trump can’t stand on the ballot in November. Other states expected to follow. Trump is going to need the main Supreme Court to over rule.
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Shouldn't be a problem. Didn't he stuff the SC with his own people?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
To do so, they are going to have to rule the President is all powerful. They may not want to do that with Biden in office.Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
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Yup. There is not a snowballs chance in hell that they don't bail him out on this.Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
Probably, but in doing so they may have to effectively rule that The President is above the law, meaning Biden could do anything he liked.Quote:
Originally Posted by neil7908
The problem is that Biden won't do anything controversial, eve with unlimited power and the Republican justices know that.Quote:
Originally Posted by lapsedhibee
If he can see a Trump dictatorship looming, he may be tempted to act outside his usual box.Quote:
Originally Posted by neil7908
Giuliani trying to stiff everyone he owes money to by filing for Bankruptcy Rudy Giuliani files for bankruptcy after $148m defamation verdict - BBC News
much like that PoS Alex Jones done, and still isn't paying any money to the sandy hook families Sandy Hook families still waiting for Alex Jones to pay court judgments : NPR
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Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
What a surprise.
:rolleyes:
There should be something built into the law where a court can forcefully remove any visible assets from these people, as they clearly aren't skint.
And future income. Say 50c on the Dollar of any future earnings. No way bankruptcy should be a way to avoid justice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
J
It isn’t. The court will likely freeze his assets shortly. Bankruptcy does protect you either. They can come after this money till the day he dies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bristolhibby
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... and possibly after, through his estate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
I'm not getting the uproar about "protection". If he doesn't have the money, he doesn't have it. If he's bankrupt, what assets he does have will be distributed accordingly among his creditors.
The question then, for me, becomes "who deserves it more? The IRS, his lenders, the women in Georgia......?"
If that's supposed to be a tweet on X then I have to say it doesn't appear on his timeline.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
Quote:
Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
his own one
@realdonaldtrump doesn't have it. Last Post is his mug shot in August, before that it's 2021. Nor does his thumbnail have the stars and stripes over it.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
Red tick is probably a give away that it's one of the many parody trump accounts
https://twitter.com/realDonParody/status/1739305476217561538?t=3qkx2RTRxn5xgU34XqKtCg&s=19
It's a post on Trump's own social network, Truth Social.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
https://truthsocial.com
oh boy, trump unhinged, this time HE IS YELLING IT
“MAY THEY ROT IN HELL”: Trump blasted for hitting "new low" in Christmas Truth Social meltdown (yahoo.com)
best putting this one in here, he's a freakin bampot like Trump
https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...sw&oe=65907FF4
Javier Milei: Happy holidays, and be careful not to become a communist (msn.com)
Do worry about the outcome if his maniac followers get denied the chance to vote for him!Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
Trump hates to hear of people getting bomb threats, he maybe doesn't realise his words of hate spurs on his loony followers
then again (3) Kate Sullivan on X: "I asked Trump if he had a reaction to police responding to a bomb threat at Judge Engoron’s home a few days ago. “No, I don’t know. I hate to hear that, but I don’t know anything about that.” https://t.co/cMTPgGwfjG" / X (twitter.com)
Depressingly Trump hammers home with the largest ever Iowa winning margin, 30%
His rivals DeSantis and Haley also split the vote. Still quite pessimistic that he will be in the White House this year
He will be in the White House again. . The only chance of that not happening is if the Democrats dump Biden.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
I think Trump or Biden could only win against each other. If either party puts in a fresh candidate, I think they win.Quote:
Originally Posted by marinello59
I wouldn’t rule out Haley just because Trumps legal problems are mounting.
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I think his legal problems will have to go as far as legally stopping him from sitting for him not to win. ABC were saying 90% of people asked who intended to vote for him believed he won the last election. There's a sizable amount of maga loons that won't believe the chargesQuote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Agree, I don’t think it deters his voters but it may stop him getting on the ballot in some states. There are some swing voters who will not vote for him if he is convicted of a felony though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
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Marginally less depressing than Trump standing and, in my opinion, almost certainly,winning is the fact that the Democrats can’t come up with a more realistic candidate than Biden.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
I watched Designated Survivor and reckon Keifer Sutherland would be better than any of the candidates.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim44
Been listening on the BBC for a breakdown of the vote and turn out. Have heard it yet or maybe missed it.
Anyway his "huge" 51% victory amounts to 55,000 votes out of circa 2,000,000 eligible. Obama got 90,000 in 2008.
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As far as Republican votes go it was huge, the previous record was something like 31%Quote:
Originally Posted by Kato
As said previously if they lose the democrats only have themselves to blame, having someone run who doesn't even know what day of the week it is half the time is just mental
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Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
Definitely
"Roughly half of evangelicals surveyed in an AP-NORC poll in October said they have a favourable view of the former president. That view is even higher among white born-again Christians, at 56 per cent."
"“I think they are doing the same thing they did to Jesus on the cross,” one Christian voter told the Associated Press.
“I am being indicted for you’. My first thought went to, ‘Well, Jesus Christ died for my sins. Jesus died for me,’” another voter told MSNBC. “So it connects in my brain that way, like, OK, he’s doing this for us … and he’s the target, where we don’t have to be.”
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-evangelical-christians-iowa-caucus-b2479115.html
Bizarre!
Boris Johnson has said that “what the world needs” is Donald Trump.
https://www.politico.eu/article/bori...t-ukraine-war/
DeSantis concedes and backs trump. Trump or Haley. Good luck Haley