(Soon to be) Former President Donald Trump

[Just Alf]

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That’s like my house. It’s actually worth £94.45m because I have plans to build a tower to rival the burj khalifa in my back garden. I haven’t started work yet or gained any permissions to do so but I’ve informed the bank of the new value and I expect to be able to borrow about £70m from them soon. Of course my council tax band should remain E until my new tower is finished.
Disclaimer:- I made up some of these figures and valuations.

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A cunning plan! What could go wrong?!

[s.a.m]

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Not defending trump in any way shape or form and I'd find it funny if he gets done for this but no danger are you getting a plot of land in Palm Beach for £50-£100k

He's talking about the Aberdeenshire estate. The massive difference in quotes between the council valuer and his for the Mar a Lago estate (if that's what you're talking about) are apparently accounted for by it being officially and purely a private club (its official status) which comes with many restrictions and regulations, rather than a private residence (Trump's valuation), which is worth many times more. He separately tried to value that estate at even lower than the local authority's valuation for tax purposes.

[Mon Dieu4]

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He's talking about the Aberdeenshire estate. The massive difference in quotes between the council valuer and his for the Mar a Lago estate (if that's what you're talking about) are apparently accounted for by it being officially and purely a private club (its official status) which comes with many restrictions and regulations, rather than a private residence (Trump's valuation), which is worth many times more. He separately tried to value that estate at even lower than the local authority's valuation for tax purposes.

Ah right, was about to get into the Florida real estate market haha

[Keith_M]

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Unbelievable or perhaps not, polling continues to be terrible for Biden

https://twitter.com/axios/status/1721174023462141973

@axios
If the election were held today, former President Donald Trump would easily beat President Joe Biden with over 300 electoral votes, according to a new swing state poll from The New York Times and Siena College

Is Biden really the best candidate the Democrats can come up with?

I realise it doesn't excuse the madness of people wanting to vote for Trump, but surely they can come up with a better option than an octogenarian.

[JimBHibees]

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Is Biden really the best candidate the Democrats can come up with?

I realise it doesn't excuse the madness of people wanting to vote for Trump, but surely they can come up with a better option than an octogenarian.

You would have hoped they could however assume the madness of the likely opponent and their tribe would put a few off.

[Hibs4185]

https://apple.news/ACBj762tHTxKYgvulwauH5A

Good article about the current fraud case

[Ozyhibby]

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https://apple.news/ACBj762tHTxKYgvulwauH5A

Good article about the current fraud case

An article that appears to ignore the fact that Trump has already been found guilty?
The rest of it is nonsense. Fraud is fraud, whether the banks themselves have been complicit or not.

[s.a.m]

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https://apple.news/ACBj762tHTxKYgvulwauH5A

Good article about the current fraud case

? The author doesn't discuss why he provided alternative valuations for the same properties for different purposes (securing loans/ avoiding tax), or why he tripled the actual size of his NY property for valuation purposes. He seems only to be saying that, because Trump is famous, it doesn't matter, and it's the bank's fault of it is a problem.

He made dishonest claims on official documents to get access to more money than he was entitled to and avoid paying money that he owed. And he he has already been found guilty of the fraud involved. They're just settling compensation and penalties now.

His financial director has already served time for separate fraudulent behaviour. The Trump Organisation was fined not long ago for tax fraud. He and his older kids had their charity wound up because they stole from it, and were banned from holding office in any New York charity.He had to compensate students of the former Trump University for various dishonest practices, including pretending it was a university. It's who he is and what he does.

[Ozyhibby]

https://x.com/rbreich/status/1723777...dxJXScFNwz8V4A


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[Stairway 2 7]

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https://x.com/rbreich/status/1723777...dxJXScFNwz8V4A


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Didn't realise he said immigrants are "poisoning the blood of our country." Horrible prick

[ACLeith]

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Didn't realise he said immigrants are "poisoning the blood of our country." Horrible prick

Fancy saying that about his mother

[cabbageandribs1875]

shoulda kept his gub shut Defamed Georgia poll workers want Giuliani to pay up to $43M for telling election lies (msn.com) all that needs deciding is how much it's going to cost him

[Keith_M]

I was just reading about Trump's mate, George Santos. Jeez, that guy's from a different planet!


Santos said: “If there was a single ounce of ETHICS in the ‘ethics committee’, they would have not released this biased report. The committee went to extraordinary lengths to smear myself and my legal team about me not being forthcoming (my legal bills suggest otherwise).

“It is a disgusting politicised smear that shows the depths of how low our federal government has sunk. Everyone who participated in this grave miscarriage of justice should all be ashamed of themselves.”

However......

'The report was accompanied by extensive appendices including evidence of apparent malpractice. Santos was shown to have spent donor money on vacations, luxury goods, Botox treatment and the website OnlyFans.'

...and...

'The committee said Santos had not co-operated, “continues to flout his statutory financial disclosure obligations and has failed to correct countless errors and omissions in his past [financial disclosure] statements, despite being repeatedly reminded … of his requirement to do so.

“The [committee] also found that, despite his attempts to blame others for much of the misconduct, Representative Santos was a knowing and active participant in the wrongdoing. Particularly troubling was Representative Santos’ lack of candour during the investigation itself.”'

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-ethics-report

[cabbageandribs1875]

Paul Pelosi attacker found guilty, now faces up to 30 years on one charge and up to 20 on another David DePape found guilty in Paul Pelosi hammer attack (msn.com)

another from the cult of trump ends up in the slammer

[JimBHibees]

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Fancy saying that about his mother

Yep pretty harsh.

[Ozyhibby]

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/04/u...e=articleShare


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[JimBHibees]

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https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/04/u...e=articleShare


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Wow a pretty terrifying article that. How has it got to this?

[s.a.m]

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Wow a pretty terrifying article that. How has it got to this?

Frighteningly easily, and quickly. Both this, and the last few years in the UK, have shown us how many of the norms we thought were set in stone and protected depend on people in power acting in good faith, and on the country's behalf - whether you agreed with their aims and objectives or not.

I'm in the US, and I keep reading that most of the Republican Representatives and Senators hate Trump and, in private, say so. In public, they praise him because they're scared of losing votes or triggering thugs to threaten or attack them. They're basically crossing their fingers and hoping he has a massive stroke. Their failure to act on the multiple occasions when they could have done something has created a monster.

[JimBHibees]

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Frighteningly easily, and quickly. Both this, and the last few years in the UK, have shown us how many of the norms we thought were set in stone and protected depend on people in power acting in good faith, and on the country's behalf - whether you agreed with their aims and objectives or not.

I'm in the US, and I keep reading that most of the Republican Representatives and Senators hate Trump and, in private, say so. In public, they praise him because they're scared of losing votes or triggering thugs to threaten or attack them. They're basically crossing their fingers and hoping he has a massive stroke. Their failure to act on the multiple occasions when they could have done something has created a monster.

Yep you are spot on it has happened very easily and is you indicate very similar to the UK plus any number of other countries run by populists.

[Hibrandenburg]

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Yep you are spot on it has happened very easily and is you indicate very similar to the UK plus any number of other countries run by populists.

How do you get populism/fascism back in the box? Once it's out it's very difficult to put back. Trump and Co will not be there forever, but others will follow in his footsteps emboldened by him. Those who follow the current populists will only get progressively worse.

[JimBHibees]

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How do you get populism/fascism back in the box? Once it's out it's very difficult to put back. Trump and Co will not be there forever, but others will follow in his footsteps emboldened by him. Those who follow the current populists will only get progressively worse.

Unfortunately think you are correct

[Ozyhibby]

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How do you get populism/fascism back in the box? Once it's out it's very difficult to put back. Trump and Co will not be there forever, but others will follow in his footsteps emboldened by him. Those who follow the current populists will only get progressively worse.

Increase people’s prosperity and reduce inequality. These movements thrive when people are struggling to get by and they positively bloom when that’s combined with the feeling that others are prospering at your expense.


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[Hibrandenburg]

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Increase people’s prosperity and reduce inequality. These movements thrive when people are struggling to get by and they positively bloom when that’s combined with the feeling that others are prospering at your expense.


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That's how you keep them in the box, not sure it's enough to put them back in or even possible once they have a say in what's decided.

[Stairway 2 7]

I agree with oz populism grows in times of economic strife. It was all to obvious after the crash that would follow covid. There would be constant fascism if fascism just grew and grew.

[s.a.m]

I remember people talking about the potential for a rise in populism when the austerity agenda was launched.

[Kato]

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Wow a pretty terrifying article that. How has it got to this?

Paraphrasing someone from the US's tweet from a while back which went along the lines of...

"Fox News has managed to do to our parents the thing they imagined Heavy Metal records and Video Games were doing to us."

IE turned them into brainwashed crazies.

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[cabbageandribs1875]

i've mentioned Chris Christie on here before and watched a clip of him on CNN this morning and once again he talks very well, imo Bing Videos a Trump hater, what's not to like

[CropleyWasGod]

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i've mentioned Chris Christie on here before and watched a clip of him on CNN this morning and once again he talks very well, imo Bing Videos a Trump hater, what's not to like

His refusal to endorse a ban on assault weapons?

While he does speak well, I can't help thinking we've got to a strange place where we're measuring everyone against Trump.

[babahibs]

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Paraphrasing someone from the US's tweet from a while back which went along the lines of...

"Fox News has managed to do to our parents the thing they imagined Heavy Metal records and Video Games were doing to us."

IE turned them into brainwashed crazies.

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Replace Fox News with Mail/ Express/ Telegraph/ Sun etc and you have the UK version.

[Hibbyradge]

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Replace Fox News with Mail/ Express/ Telegraph/ Sun etc and you have the UK version.

GB News