(Soon to be) Former President Donald Trump

[neil7908]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...aders-in-wales

The more I see of Starmer the less I like.

If this was Boris we'd be having a field day

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https://www.theguardian.com/politics...aders-in-wales

The more I see of Starmer the less I like.

If this was Boris we'd be having a field day

That's what happens when you post early in the morning!

[neil7908]

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That's what happens when you post early in the morning!

Hahaha my bad! Like you say, far too early!

[Oscar T Grouch]

He is deranged. Wonder if anything will be done about this latest violation of this release conditions?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7N3N70coZM

[Hibrandenburg]

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He is deranged. Wonder if anything will be done about this latest violation of this release conditions?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7N3N70coZM

Jeez, that guy doesn't half like talking, I thought he'd never come to the point.

[lapsedhibee]

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Jeez, that guy doesn't half like talking, I thought he'd never come to the point.

:TLDL:

[Ozyhibby]

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Jeez, that guy doesn't half like talking, I thought he'd never come to the point.

You only get paid if your video goes past the 10 minute mark.


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The newly elected Republican speaker of the US House of Representatives is Mike Johnson, a Trump ally who said doctors who give abortion care should be “imprisoned at hard labor for 1-10 years and fined $10k to $100k.”

What is going on in the US ...?

[Kato]

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He is deranged. Wonder if anything will be done about this latest violation of this release conditions?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7N3N70coZM

Mafia tactics.

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[cabbageandribs1875]

another court case for the pumkin-faced bum Trump to face new trial next week after losing ploy to ditch Colorado ballot suit (msn.com)

[silverhibee]

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:TLDL:

He looks out his nut.

I had to Google the meaning of TLDL

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Just last year, Johnson was voting against the US supporting Ukraine.
He's as mad as Trump.

[Oscar T Grouch]

So Trump had his gagging order re-instated after the Judge (Tanya Chutkin) manoeuvred him & his legal team to box themselves into a corner. She has shown that his rhetoric about not understanding what he is and is not allowed to say is hyperbole and therefore would not advance up the appeals court system, she done this using court records so it is undeniable by Trump's legal team and therefore proved that an appeal at any level would be fruitless without admitting to perjury! She even gave him examples of what is and what is not permitted under the gagging order (this is extraordinary from a judge who would normally just pass the order and expect those under it to understand and abide by it). The judge waved calls from the prosecution to make breaking the order automatic jail time, basically saying she would look at each case individually, she know he will break it and cannot be seen to issue an order that will just jail Trump. So all these extra bits and extending the limits and pandering to Trump has not changed him one iota. Because yesterday he broke the gagging order with quite a spectacular post on Truth social, spectacular insomuch as it literally did everything the judge the previous day had said was not permissible. Trump will needed to stand in front of the judge now and explain his contempt, as will his legal team. As an aside at the time of re-instating the order she explained unequivocally why the gagging order is not effected by the 1st amendment which also means Trump cannot stand in front of her and say that it is his 1st amendment right to say what he said. Trump faces $1000s of fines or he can be sent to jail but I feel Judge Chutkin is keeping that on the back burner for the moment anyway.

also

TL:DR - Trump has managed to back himself and his legal team into a very tight, expensive corner of the US Judicial system.

[grunt]

Trump testifying today in his tax fraud case:

Counsel: did you prepare the 2021 financial statement
Trump: I was so busy in the White House, focusing on Russia and China and keeping our country safe
Counsel: you weren’t president then

[DaveF]

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Trump testifying today in his tax fraud case:

Counsel: did you prepare the 2021 financial statement
Trump: I was so busy in the White House, focusing on Russia and China and keeping our country safe
Counsel: you weren’t president then

I read that earlier 😄

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https://www.meidastouch.com/news/don...estifies-in-ny

Trump then reiterated his primary defense to this case - that he had a "disclaimer" clause with every financial statement (which he calls a "worthless clause") that he claims renders everything in the statement useless because he warned the reader not to believe any of the numbers that were in it. He claimed that the banks he dealt with didn't even use them in making their decisions because they really wanted to make the deals with him.

Some local interest:

Trump was then asked about his golf course in Scotland. (In his deposition he claimed that the reason why he valued it at more than double his purchase price a very short time later was because he might someday develop and sell houses on the course, which made it worth more). The AG pointed out that he never actually built any of the 1,100 additional houses he claimed and that he isn't building anything there right now. Trump responded, "I'm in no rush. I'm not looking to build right now. I'm doing other things right now. I just want to sit with it. It's an investment."

[Ozyhibby]

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https://www.meidastouch.com/news/don...estifies-in-ny





Some local interest:

That’s like my house. It’s actually worth £94.45m because I have plans to build a tower to rival the burj khalifa in my back garden. I haven’t started work yet or gained any permissions to do so but I’ve informed the bank of the new value and I expect to be able to borrow about £70m from them soon. Of course my council tax band should remain E until my new tower is finished.
Disclaimer:- I made up some of these figures and valuations.

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[Keith_M]

Lock him up!

[Hibs4185]

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That’s like my house. It’s actually worth £94.45m because I have plans to build a tower to rival the burj khalifa in my back garden. I haven’t started work yet or gained any permissions to do so but I’ve informed the bank of the new value and I expect to be able to borrow about £70m from them soon. Of course my council tax band should remain E until my new tower is finished.
Disclaimer:- I made up some of these figures and valuations.

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I think he has planning for all the houses though?

[Stairway 2 7]

Unbelievable or perhaps not, polling continues to be terrible for Biden

https://twitter.com/axios/status/1721174023462141973

@axios
If the election were held today, former President Donald Trump would easily beat President Joe Biden with over 300 electoral votes, according to a new swing state poll from The New York Times and Siena College

[MKHIBEE]

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Unbelievable or perhaps not, polling continues to be terrible for Biden

https://twitter.com/axios/status/1721174023462141973

@axios
If the election were held today, former President Donald Trump would easily beat President Joe Biden with over 300 electoral votes, according to a new swing state poll from The New York Times and Siena College

Well, it isn’t so he won’t. Next.

[s.a.m]

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I think he has planning for all the houses though?

If Ozyhibby manages to bribe a council official to give him planning permission for his magnificent tower structure, then realises it was a crazy notion that someone sensible should have talked him out of and puts his house on the market cos all his neighbours are laughing at him... the planning permission might make it attractive to some other dreamer who wants to build the exact same thing, but I don't think he could value it as if he already had the building and its amenities as part of the estate. Because it's an unfulfilled intention, with all the expense of actually doing it currently unspent. I'm happy to be corrected, because i don't know anything about real estate, but I don't think you can claim value for things that aren't there but could be if someone else paid for them.

[Stairway 2 7]

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Well, it isn’t so he won’t. Next.

I don't think the Dems will be so blasé less than 12 months to go. Polls and bookmakers have reps narrow favourites. Republicans have played smart with the whole, the world is against us nonsense narrative. It's also surprising the Dems don't have a better candidate. If Biden wins he'll be 86 at the end of term and doesn't look the best for it.

The trail outcome you'd think would change things but I'm dubious for most of these nutters

[Ozyhibby]

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I don't think the Dems will be so blasé less than 12 months to go. Polls and bookmakers have reps narrow favourites. Republicans have played smart with the whole, the world is against us nonsense narrative. It's also surprising the Dems don't have a better candidate. If Biden wins he'll be 86 at the end of term and doesn't look the best for it.

The trail outcome you'd think would change things but I'm dubious for most of these nutters

I still think Biden will win but they would be better with a new candidate. Problem is, nobody is going for it?


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[nonshinyfinish]

How common is it that a sitting president is challenged for their party's nomination after their first term? For the elections I remember it's always seemed like a given that they're nominated again unchallenged, but I don't know if that's always been the case.

[s.a.m]

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I still think Biden will win but they would be better with a new candidate. Problem is, nobody is going for it?

You'd think that the sensible thing, given Biden's age, would have been to start preparing a successor in the eyes of the public right from the start of his presidency, and with the not-unlikely prospect of his health diminishing, or of his death. Either Harris or someone else. It's late in the day to be finding a new candidate, unless they had someone really charismatic and appealing up their sleeve. And there's no sign of that.

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How common is it that a sitting president is challenged for their party's nomination after their first term? For the elections I remember it's always seemed like a given that they're nominated again unchallenged, but I don't know if that's always been the case.

I was listening to a podcast where they were talking about Jimmy Carter having been challenged, and the damaging effect it had on his candidacy and on his subsequent defeat. You can only assume that Phillips is acting out of self-interest / ambition, because he has close to no chance and the likely outcome is that a washing-your-dirty-linen-in-public internal battle diminishes Biden's chances. He's an unknown, and there doesn't seem to be any kind of surge of support for him.

[McD]

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How common is it that a sitting president is challenged for their party's nomination after their first term? For the elections I remember it's always seemed like a given that they're nominated again unchallenged, but I don't know if that's always been the case.

It is fairly rare, for a few reasons. Firstly, there’s usually horse trading going on in the background, secondly unless the other side are in total disarray then there’s always the fear within your party that it’ll split votes and cause ructions, and I think there’s also the fear of being perceived as the person who challenged a president from within, so people shy away. Whatever history judges, most presidents are popular at some point, or they’d never get the job, people eying the top job don’t want to be seen to rock the boat too much as they plan their way to the White House.


It’s also interesting to see how many single term presidents there have been relatively recently. Trump, then the next one is George H. W. Bush over 30 years ago, then Carter, then Ford. Even Nixon was re-elected. For the last 50ish years, presidents have tended to stick around, keeping their party united behind them.

[Hibs4185]

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If Ozyhibby manages to bribe a council official to give him planning permission for his magnificent tower structure, then realises it was a crazy notion that someone sensible should have talked him out of and puts his house on the market cos all his neighbours are laughing at him... the planning permission might make it attractive to some other dreamer who wants to build the exact same thing, but I don't think he could value it as if he already had the building and its amenities as part of the estate. Because it's an unfulfilled intention, with all the expense of actually doing it currently unspent. I'm happy to be corrected, because i don't know anything about real estate, but I don't think you can claim value for things that aren't there but could be if someone else paid for them.

There is land at his estate which is suitable for housing and there was models with all tye houses shown. I’m sure he got planning for the houses, it’s maybe expired but if there is planing for say 100-200 houses then it will def increase the value of his estate.

Some housing estates are £20k a plot, some are £50-£100k a plot. All depended on location and desirability.

Even 100 houses at £40k is £4 million so it’s not going to be worth a £100 million more but he can claim the value has risen because the land that’s suite for houses will have a value.

[s.a.m]

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There is land at his estate which is suitable for housing and there was models with all tye houses shown. I’m sure he got planning for the houses, it’s maybe expired but if there is planing for say 100-200 houses then it will def increase the value of his estate.

Some housing estates are £20k a plot, some are £50-£100k a plot. All depended on location and desirability.

Even 100 houses at £40k is £4 million so it’s not going to be worth a £100 million more but he can claim the value has risen because the land that’s suite for houses will have a value.

Fair enough. Like I said, the potential may make the estate more attractive too someone who wants to take over the same project, but he seems to have made a habit of valuing his properties as if the potential had been realised. When he's applying for loans, that is. When he's submitting tax returns, he had a habit of undervaluing the same properties. From the evidence in the court case, there seems to have been a lot of, "well... hypothetically," involved in his financial submissions.

[Mon Dieu4]

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There is land at his estate which is suitable for housing and there was models with all tye houses shown. I’m sure he got planning for the houses, it’s maybe expired but if there is planing for say 100-200 houses then it will def increase the value of his estate.

Some housing estates are £20k a plot, some are £50-£100k a plot. All depended on location and desirability.

Even 100 houses at £40k is £4 million so it’s not going to be worth a £100 million more but he can claim the value has risen because the land that’s suite for houses will have a value.

Not defending trump in any way shape or form and I'd find it funny if he gets done for this but no danger are you getting a plot of land in Palm Beach for £50-£100k