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https://www.rangersnews.uk/club-news/rangers-fans-charity-nil-by-mouth-st-mirren-chairman-tweets/amp/Quote:
Originally Posted by linlithgowhibbie
He called themm Huns and sevco in case you are wondering what the 'sectarian' terms were 😂
They are experts at very obvious deflection and whataboutery aren't they!Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveF
He is a long time friend of mine, surprised he would say anything after being put onto their board, but a true footie fan (who like most of us doesn't like them or their twin arsecheek)
I think the tweets are from years back. No doubt dug up those who can't wait to be offended but then go on to dish out abuse at will soon after.Quote:
Originally Posted by linlithgowhibbie
I hadn't realised that Nil By Mouth was a Rangers "charity". I genuinely thought they were fighting sectarianism but it appears all they are doing is legitimising whataboutery.
Some things by mouth might be a more appropriate non "sectarian" name for it then?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lendo
Never ceases to amaze me what this sort of creature isn't offended by and doesn't regard as sectarian.
It really is the Scotland's shame that the laws exist to at least take action. There's plenty targets every week but I think it shows the country in a poorer light that governments effectively ignore their own laws for fear of offending, or worse, those they should be meeting head on.
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If Nil by Mouth thinks “ Sevco “ is an offensive term then they’d better get onto Companies House right away.
There are numerous references to Sevco and The Rangers on that site, it was the original name of the parent company ffs.
Come to think of it, they get offended by The Rangers tag too, maybe time the word “The” got banned too, just to keep them happy. :greengrin
Tbf, I think it was the term “Huns” and also hoping the bridge collapses when all their fans were bouncing on it , that were the real offensive comments to which they refer ..Quote:
Originally Posted by greenginger
In the report I read , Sevco was mentioned as one of the offensive terms that was used.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigwheel
Fair enough - the tweets that were reported had worse than thatQuote:
Originally Posted by greenginger
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Originally Posted by DaveF
Nil by Mouth really do need to f*** off.
Or at least check the definition of ‘derogatory’ in a dictionary.
Wow. We will need to start addressing them as sir and 'the people'. It seems anything less is offensive. :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by greenginger
£23.5m loss announced in their latest accounts. Not surprised to see them post a loss due to Covid but wondering how many losses and the total amount of losses they have posted since their reincarnation.
And the fact it continues to be swept under the carpetQuote:
Originally Posted by 04Sauzee
By whom? It's in the public domain.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart93
Are we not even allowed to be offensive any more? (Aimed at the report, not you).Quote:
Originally Posted by greenginger
They’ve lost £80mil up to the last set of accounts, so adding the 23.5mil to that makes it just over £100mil they’ve lost since being reborn. But there’s nothing to see here, this is all legit and above board. The debt however mostly comes from rangers board members and I’m sure a lot of it was converted to shares but I could be wrong about that.Quote:
Originally Posted by 04Sauzee
At first glance, they are in a much better state than they could have been. Their funding gap has reduced from £23m to £8m. They have also secured longer-term external funding, which is a big step for them.Quote:
Originally Posted by 04Sauzee
Disclaimer:- "at first glance" might miss a lot of issues :greengrin
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Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
One thing in their favour over the past few seasons has been a steady stream of cash from European football. They had relied on this, which always seemed risky, but the risk seems to have paid off.
Yep, that was their stated model. Something like "group stages of the Europa or Champions League in 3 out of 5 seasons". We all probably scoffed at that at the time, as they were pretty poor on the park.Quote:
Originally Posted by jacomo
In some ways, it's almost irrelevant that Gerrard hasn't been too successful domestically. He's done the business in Europe which, from a financial point of view, has been much better for them.
I have absolutely zero knowledge but how long can losses continue like they have been before spfl/SFA take notice? If that’s even a possibilityQuote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
There’s more chance of me sending you a photograph of a live unicorn, finding a pot of gold at the end of a rainbow, or, enjoying a bowl of chicken-lip soup.:greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Stuart93
As long as they can continue in business, which they are doing, it's not the concern of the SPFL or SFA.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart93
UEFA may be a different story although, as recent FFP cases suggest, I'm not sure that's likely to be a major issue either.
Could they be banned from Europe over the next few years or is that wishful thinking?Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
I'd doubt it.Quote:
Originally Posted by PatHead
They have been in worse places than they are now, and managed to get round the FFP rules. In the past, they had to show that they were taking steps to plug their funding gap. It's clear that those steps were taken, and further steps are being taken. The long-term funding that they have secured is a huge step for them in that respect.
Sadly there are an awful lot of rich huns out there who are happy to swap £m for worthless share certificates. As much as we would all love it, in a Kevin Keegan stylee, if they went tits up it won't ever happen
In what way? It's being highlighted everywhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart93
UEFA Fairplay rules were designed to stop clubs spending more than they earn, but they have been a complete failure.
They are meant to be having an overhaul this year...but I wouldn't put a £1 on new rules having any greater success.
As for the chances of SFA/SPFL putting in place checks and restrictions such as they have in the Bundesliga - zero chance
Clubs such as Sevco etc will just have to keep hoping directors/supporters will keep chucking in the cash.
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Originally Posted by Stuart93
In what way? It's being highlighted everywhere.
So they have spent over £100m more than their income since they last went pop.
Financial doping on a huge scale yet somehow its not covered by UEFA FFP rules or even remotely bothering the Scottish authorities in terms of how that impacts the domestic ‘fairness’ of competition.
Seems right enough.
We don't have FFP in Scotland, presumably because the clubs don't want it. Rod mentioned years ago that there were plans to bring it in, but there doesn't seem to be the appetite for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by RyeSloan
Stating the bleedin’ obvious with yer first sentence there Crops ;-).Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Sorry, just saying that as a lot of people seem to think it's the SFA's call.Quote:
Originally Posted by RyeSloan
There could be a spin-off series.
The Easdale brothers, last seen in Season 3, are reported to be in for Derby County.
Had forgotten about them! Another pair of comedians who have off the radar wealth?Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
UEFA licensing rules apply to the SPFL (or any clubs who participate in UEFA competitions)?Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Whether it works correctly is a separate question.
A bit like their first saviours White and Cheeky Charlie Green, immeasurable wealth, so immeasurable that no one bothered to measure it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iain G
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Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Is that the gangster like bus company owners that used to burn down rival bus depots (allegedly)?
Notice in the papers something about King charging massive interest on his loan. Anyone know anything about this?
https://www.scotsman.com/sport/footb...counts-3451314Quote:
Originally Posted by PatHead
"While announcing figures to June 2021, Rangers summarised a seven-figure loan, plus £832,000 interest, had been repaid to Mr King since that accounting period ended and replaced by ‘a long term, lower coupon structured facility’ to support their aim to ‘strengthen our capital and funding structure’."
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Originally Posted by CyberSauzee
Oh, tidy! In an era of low interest rates, how nice to be in a position to lend money to a club in desperate need of cash, and be obliged to charge sizeable interest on top.
IIRC it stated in the accounts that they needed an additional 7.5M to finish the season. Do they need more now that the Lying King has been paid? Also, has Hector been paid yet? Come on CWG - give us some informed opinions :wink:
The words "glib" and "shameless" were springing to mind when I read that pile of absolute drivel.Quote:
Originally Posted by CyberSauzee
1. nah, sorry. That has been taken account of in the £7.5m.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoboHarry
2. no scooby. They have £7.7m due for "Taxes & Other Social Security Costs" at the end of June. No idea how that breaks down into VAT, PAYE, NI etc. Also don't know whether it's for 1 month, or longer. It's a huge sum, but a couple of million lower than it was last year.
From BBC Gossip column today on the King matter
Former Rangers chairman Dave King cites "inaccurate" information in the club's most recent accounts, saying a £5m loan was incorrectly attributed to him rather than a business within his family trust structure. (Sun)
King says interest of more than £800,000 paid on the loan had "no impact" on Rangers' financial results. (Scotsman - subscription required)
We all know King is a fine upstanding gentleman known never to lie about anything!!
He's probably right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oscar T Grouch
The £832k was paid after the year-end, so it affects the current year's loss.
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Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
We can always rely on you to dig up the dirt. 👍
I don’t think Ashley’s compensation has been announced yet or have Rangers settled?Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Deluded Rangers fans on Superscoreboard thinking Gerrard won't go to Villa because Rangers are a much bigger club. One yesterday even said Rangers are bigger than Liverpool. :faf:
Can't wait to see the meltdown when he goes.
Wonder who they'll go for to replace Gerrard?
They haven't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stonewall
At the moment, they have provided about £2.75m against the claim. If it's more than that, the excess will be in this year's accounts, and will add to the £7.5m shortfall.
That's them. They maybe or maybe not robbed IBM of half a million pounds worth of chips many years ago then diversified.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
That's a lot of chips. Wonder if they sold them on to Mrs B.Quote:
Originally Posted by Killiehibbie
Not sure how accurate it is, but read elsewhere that Derek McInnes had a sit down with them recently, with an initial aim to act as caretaker for the rest of the season.Quote:
Originally Posted by 90274
Again, unsure if the accuracy so don't shoot the messenger.
Gerard and Beale seen in London. If and when he takes Villa job I am sure he will raid The Rangers for Kent and Patterson.
Kent is decent but I imagine Gerrard will be aiming higher than that unless Gerrard takes advantage of how broke Sevco are and low balls them. Now that would be funny.......Quote:
Originally Posted by gbhibby
He's more likely to go for Porteous and take his creepy ***in wierd obsession to a new levelQuote:
Originally Posted by HoboHarry
Could definitely see him going for KamaraQuote:
Originally Posted by gbhibby
I’m not sure there is anyone in that Rangers team that would get a game for Villa.
Ryan was on Villa's radar at one time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gmack7
I don’t think he’ll want anyone and as soon as he’s away he’ll be very critical of the standard up here to lend himself some credibility with the fans of his new club.Quote:
Originally Posted by 04Sauzee
I think the opposite. If he is critical of the standard up here then surely questions will be asked over his poor record (1 trophy in 9 hardly entitles him to be critical of the standard).Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartie
Callum Davidson has won more than him as a manager in a shorter period of time.
https://twitter.com/FollowMeltdowns/status/1458751054003245060?s=20
Amusing
Saddest thing about it is that he actually has a full size cardboard cutout.Quote:
Originally Posted by green day
If fat morelos is as good as the record says, surely Gerrard will move to secure the world's best striker.
Oh wait.
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Originally Posted by NorthNorfolkHFC
He could have given Sevco some broad assurances on that to let him leave quickly. Then it will turn out that Villa find the £15m valuation of Alfredo as ludicrous as everyone else.
Probably only just realised it's a cardboard cut out, been talking to it, and performing other Masonic rituals with it for weeks.Quote:
Originally Posted by 007
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Reported to be £4.5m compensation.
That will make a huge dent in their financial problem.
Well it just makes the 7.5M hole less deep no? Also, they were saying 2m a couple of days ago - I'm more inclined to believe that figure.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
They have to replace the manager and backroom staff though. If they want anyone who's in a job, that will cost.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
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Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Just about to post the same. The Lying King is probably cross he didn’t round up the interest to a cool £1m, now that Rangers have some cash lying about.
Sure, but if they go for van Bronckhorst, there won't be any compensation.Quote:
Originally Posted by oneone73
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Originally Posted by 007
A nasty little bully ned well suited to them
I wish him nothing but failure in the future.
Erm, Sevco's the rankers first title Steven!
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Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Are you gonna give it a rest with all these positive financial views of Der Hun?
You really are dampening the mood for everybody
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Originally Posted by MrSmith
He did put it in quotation marks.
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Originally Posted by MrSmith
And you can tell how much it hurts all the Old Huns by the way they have to continually pretend it's "55". :wink:
If only they hadn't walked away and allowed the business to liquidate.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens
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Supposedly that is for Gerrard and all his team combined. Half what Celtic got for Rodgers.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Plugged half their budget hole, now they can bring in a lesser, but more staunch name who won’t be in the media demanding money to spend.
The Board is probably delighted.
I have to say, the violent racist that is John Terry is a perfect fit for Sevco.
A whole catalogue of despicable behaviour over a long period of time.
They deserve each other.
There is another grown man who has just dumped one(cardboard cut out) at the door of Ibrox. Strange people. Has anyone been in touch with SJM to tell him to show his new boss what a Scottish Cup winners medal looks like.Quote:
Originally Posted by 007
Why don’t they just hire another manager , call him Steven Gerrard and tell everyone it’s the same management team. They have used that before
The Steven GerrardQuote:
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Scouseco?Quote:
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Steveco?Quote:
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SeverencecoQuote:
Originally Posted by h1bs4life
Davidson would be the sensible appointment for Rangers right now. Luckily they don't have any sense and will get some old hun.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tommy75
Wonder if he’s related to Bobby Davidson.....Quote:
Originally Posted by heretoday
Ruth Davidson?
I'm thinking Jim Davidson might fit right in.Quote:
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Originally Posted by Bostonhibby
Exactly the type of rabid right wing Tory bigot, still stuck in the 1970s, they would welcome with open arms.
So long Scouser ned https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...861a0f420d.jpg
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Pick that apart ya dafties!!
His autocorrect seems to have changed bigotedest to biggest...Quote:
Originally Posted by EI255
He'd get knocked about by hairy-ersed Burnley defenders.Quote:
Originally Posted by NorthNorfolkHFC
That's superb.Quote:
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