Yes definitely, accumulative, gaining pace and exacerbated by his rejection by the electorate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
Not clear what that says about his followers.
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Yes definitely, accumulative, gaining pace and exacerbated by his rejection by the electorate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
Not clear what that says about his followers.
Just confirmed by the BBC.Quote:
Originally Posted by BroxburnHibee
Suspended for next 12 hours, will be unlocked if he removes 3 tweets which breach their civic integrity policies.
He would be hilarious if he wasn't so dangerous. What an utter fool.
Apparently its to remain locked for 12 hours after he removes the tweets. If he doesn't (and when has he ever admitted he was wrong) then it will remain locked.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
Expecting to see Melania tweeting quite a lot tonight :greengrin
I've still to see a Trump supporter who looks and sounds like his elevator goes all the way up to the top floor. Who'd have thought that a megalomaniac and his supporters who talk like fascists, act like fascists and refuse to condemn fascists would actually turn out to be fascists.Quote:
Originally Posted by stu in nottingham
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https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...n-coup-attempt
Mitch McConnell needs to own this too.
He’s changed his Twitter header photo to one of Biden and Harris.Quote:
Originally Posted by Callum_62
Bush can GTF. He knows all about creating chaos.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
The Russians must be delighted that their investment has paid off so handsomely. Never in their wildest dreams could they have expected such a return. The Chinese will be lapping it up too.
There's a breathless incoherence amongst those interviewees that belies a deep stupidity, they are rubes drawn in by a total conman .Quote:
Originally Posted by Callum_62
As a statement it would have carried more weight if it had named Trump directly as Mitt Romney did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
We all know who he means but why hide behind 'some political leaders'?
I think it's been removed, might be some on you tubeQuote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
When this all started this evening I cracked open a bottle of red and settled in for an evenings viewing. Now I’m wondering what people did when the first American civil war started? [emoji23]
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Imagine being American president and having your Twitter account suspended like a naughty teenager.
It's Pence and his wife isn't it?Quote:
Originally Posted by overdrive
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Lots of chatter about Pence invoking the 25th amendment tonight.
Not likely is it?
If he did could he then pardon Trump?
https://twitter.com/jamiedupree/stat...171658755?s=19
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And from that, surely they have to move against the President now? It’s clear they see it as Him attacking them? Surely they have to defend the constitution?Quote:
Originally Posted by Callum_62
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No chance. Too many Trump puppets in the cabinet.Quote:
Originally Posted by BroxburnHibee
Ian Austin has completely lost it on Twitter, if anyone can copy his tweets into this thread or the Labour thread. Struggle to do so on my iPhone.
Just seen a video of the young women being shot in the Capitol building
She was trying to climb through the window in guessing into the main hall. Or whatever they call it
She was shot as she was climbing in the window
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What a numpty he is - moronicQuote:
Originally Posted by HibernianJK
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Pence starting the senate proceedings again
Quite a good opening speech and condemning the actions earlier but saying “you did not win" and highlighting they are reconvening the very same day
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I'm trying to stay awake to find out if the objections are withdrawn or if Trump's lackeys are too scared of him and the alt-right to act appropriately.
If you can be impeached for getting a BJ, you should be able to get impeached for staging a coup.
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Couldn’t quite believe what I was reading.Quote:
Originally Posted by Callum_62
These people are absolute ****.
https://twitter.com/bxbyleyy_/status...23593293307906
Get Ted cruz on asapQuote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
The tone so far has been much more reconilary from both Dems and republicans
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The Republicans have spent the past few years creating this disaster. Some of them are too far gone to step back from the edge.
The NG request was turned down by DoD. However some states, including mine, have mobilized by their Governors and have been sent to DC along with a number of State Troopers.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
What is DOD? Not sure how it works in the States but who is in charge of the National Guard and why were they not in readiness for the riot that took place?Quote:
Originally Posted by Haymaker
Excellent article
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...n-coup-attempt
It seems like they doubled down, Republican senators talking of ‘electoral irregularities’ and widespread fraud. FFS There is NO EVIDENCE! I like a good conspiracy myself but I also like to examine the facts and make a case. What is it with people that don’t want evidence before reaching a decision? Or is it wilful blindness because they know it keeps them in a cosy job and GTF with due process:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
I find it incredible that, after everything that's happened, the Republicans are still going on about a stolen election.
This is just a total lie and they've seen the effect it has on the worst elements of his followers, yet they still carry on.
:rolleyes:
Yep, we’re being fed the narrative in Congress last night that it’s Trumps ‘mad’ supporters responsible. It’s the Republican Party that has been feeding all this for years. Mitch McConnell saying ‘we will not be bullied by mob rule’ last night is beyond hypocrisy since he’s been banging on about stolen elections up till last week when he gave up :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
There’s a definite element of ‘pinning the blame on the dumb blue collar redneck’ going on.
BBC are saying 4 people dead. The blood is on the hands of the president.
Staggering scenes last night and unfortunately, I fear it will escalate in the coming days, weeks and months ahead.
I can't believe the death toll was only 4. Police definitely must have been told to back off.
The vast majority of what was on view looked like "redneck", it's difficult to believe this odd group represents anything else, but if you scratch the surface, theres some clever republicans hiding behind this and manipulating them for their own ends. Shame on them.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
A bit like how Hitler used Stormtroopers on Krystalnacht to do the Nazi party's dirty work.
Trump has blood on his hands but he won't care.
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Priti Patal = Bottle Merchant.
She’s refused to name Trump or condemn his actions.
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Whats been lost amongst all the treason is the Dems will now control the Senate. Its scary that 60 odd million people voted for this guy but x2 Democratic senators in Georgia is unprecedented.
The American people rejected Trump. Unfortunately a huge swath of the country appear to be as stupid, racist and violent as we've all thought.
Before the last UK election I read an article about Johnson. The author knew him personally and she said he was a man either disinterested in or incapable of caring about the feelings of others.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bostonhibby
She said he had betrayed his own siblings, cheated on every partner he had ever had, studiously ignored some of his own children, betrayed his political allies, used and discarded friends, deceived his employers etc etc etc. All he was interested in was what was best for Boris. Anything else was unimportant , if he got what he wanted then he was happy and if he retained a bit of popularity whilst doing so then all the better.
Trump has all the same tendencies. He won't shed a single tear for the lives ended because of his rhetoric. If it destabilises the next US govt and paves the way for one of his brood to have a run at the next election then he's happy. Everything else is just collateral damage.
Yes, It's almost as if they support the right wing coup attempt. :hmmm:Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
White mobs hard to aim at? :dunno:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sylar
Electoral college vote is certified
Women shot and killed was an air force vet
Twitter now losing its collective mind coz she was unarmed
I seen the video of her Trying to climb through that opening in the door as she was shot
I've no idea what was being said or instructed to be fair but they knew there were folk with guns on the other side according to the guy on the news who was there last night
I got a sense from him that he thought there was no need for this shooting though
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Originally Posted by Callum_62
And yet he was still one of half a dozen that voted today against ratifying the votes in Pennsylvania because he believed the elections were fraudulent
He wants to be president - he's trying to hold onto some trump supportersQuote:
Originally Posted by Barney McGrew
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I’m willing to bet all those outraged about that will have been equally outraged about the unarmed black people that have been shot and killed recently.Quote:
Originally Posted by Callum_62
Or maybe not.
Read similar re Johnson, and his former employer Max Hastings (hardly a left wing Tory hater) gives some insights too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
For me the only thing that separates Trump like behaviour and that I feel Johnson, and a few of those who he has surrounded himself with are capable of, is that they appear to be more intelligent than Trump and are therefore better at cloaking their true nature.
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That’s the problem with Trumpism right there - Cruz is more worried about what’s in it for him rather than what’s the right thing to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Callum_62
She would have been warned that they would shoot her if she continued to try and get through the window. Whoever shot her would have been scared for their life, even if she did not have a gun, the next one might, or the one after that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Callum_62
I have no sympathy for her.
Only one shot. 3 medical emergencies resulted in the other deaths. I wonder if they got a knee to the back of the neck?Quote:
Originally Posted by lapsedhibee
Oh, she's surfaced again. Suitably distanced from anything that's actually part of her parliamentary brief again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aldo
I'm looking forward to our Foreign Secretay properly condemning Trump and his acolytes role in this.
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Failing to name, shame and condone following his comments and the actions of his supporters is disgraceful imho.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bostonhibby
Wouldn’t be surprised if Boris has briefed (warned) them not to condone what’s been said by Trump??
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Without doubt however by her actions she has put herself in this position. She made the choice. It’s tragic however these people knew exactly what they were doing and surely knew what the potential outcome could be??Quote:
Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs
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Are you sure. The report I read says she lays the blame squarely at his door :dunno:Quote:
Originally Posted by Aldo
Cruz is a lunatic, Craig Mazin the guy behind the Chernobyl series had to share a room with him at college, should see the stories and things he posts about him and what he got up to on twitter, he despises the guyQuote:
Originally Posted by Barney McGrew
White House staffers described Trump's response to the rioters entering the Capitol as borderline enthusiastic, and he was unwilling to condemn them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bostonhibby
I watched it and on live TV 3 times she was asked if she would say Trump was responsibly and 3 times she skirted round the question. She did say it was disgraceful behaviour etc by those who took part.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
If she has fair dos!
Edit: googled it and she has since laid the blame at his door.
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Some republican members of congress claiming it was antifa who stormed congress.
It’s genuinely scary that they’ve seen yesterday’s scenes and want to fan the flames further.
There are a lot of ***** at the top of our politics at the moment, but she is jostling right up at the very top of the league table.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aldo
I didn't think Michael Howard would ever be toppled as the most odious Home Secretary ever but fair dos to her, she's risen to the challenge magnificently.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jones28
Patel is evil incarnate. God help us all if she ever somehow becomes Tory Leader.Quote:
Originally Posted by marinello59
She has.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.the...-in-us-capitol
We'll find many Tories and right wing hacks deleting tweets supporting the Tea party and right wing Republicans. They should be held to account for all their despicable endeavours.
The women that was shot and killed
I can't understand why she crawling through a broken window there when folk with guns out are on the other side
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I'd like to think that yesterday's events will be a lesson to all who play down what's happening all over the Western World as just voter disillusionment against the establishment. Sure, people are disillusioned but that is only part of the story as they are merely pawns in an insidious network of modern day fascists pulling the strings and using that disillusionment to fire up the mob. Trump, Cummings, Orban, Putin, Bolsonaro, Le Penn, Farage, Wilders, Kaczyński, Netanyahu, Salvini, Banks and many more that I could list if I gave it more thought. Be under no illusion, fascism is alive and thriving again and what we saw yesterday is a tiny taste of things to come if the worlds population continue to keep their heads firmly stuck up their *****. However I won't hold my breath.
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one group of right wing ****s must have been gutted when trump lost....they certainly wen't very quiet
Woman who was shot got exactly what she (and many others yesterday, who didn't) deserved.
Plenty of photos doing the round of the types of people who were there yesterday - including one wearing a 'Camp Auschwitz' t-shirt, and another with SS/Nazi symbols and '6MWE' (6 million wasn't enough) on a t-shirt.
Utter vermin.
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Originally Posted by Lendo
The Manager at my work is exactly like Priti Patel, and it ain't a 'pretty' sight.
Came back from maternity leave and has acted like The Spawn of Satan ever since. Constant bullying, no 'dissent' (i.e. asking questions) allowed and has been known to shout down people in meetings.
She even looks a bit like Patel, including the RBF.
The Nasty party and nasty Nige with the ultimate nasty photo opportunity.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
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Correct. People like Cruz are completely amoral. Consumed with ambition, everyone and everything is expendable in pursuit of their personal goals. He is an extreme example of venality, a truly terrible person. He knows the conspiracy theory he is pushing is nonsense, but he has calculated it will help him in his next run for president, so he abandons democracy, truth, his oath of office. Cruz and his ilk have enabled Trump and the lunatic conspiracy theorists, one of the consequences of which was yesterday's madness.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barney McGrew
Not that we had any reason to think that there was, but factcheckers have confirmed that BLM/Antifa did not storm the Capitol last night. Quite incredible that factcheckers have to waste their time on such ludicrous statements from certain key Republicans.
I think the experts call Trump's condition malignant narcissism. If you get the chance to watch Unfit: The psychology of Donald Trump it goes into all his traits but also the way the process has been managed to press voters buttons. Really scary stuff, he even cheats repeatedly at Golf! Johnson probably cheats at CroquetQuote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
Sometimes you just have to say it as it is. As our FM did with the BBC and Steve Bannon at the time. This was just over two years ago, but is it a lesson which the Tories will ever learn?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...non-invitation
Department of Defense.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimBHibees
Not sure if it is because DC isn't a state that's may be why they had to ask? Then other states governors mobilized theirs.
Currently not a State, but you can bet the case for full statehood for DC will be high on the agenda after yesterday. Was never going to happen in the Republican controlled House, but now the Democrats are in charge it is far more likely.Quote:
Originally Posted by Haymaker
Hopefully the same for Puerto Rico too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lendo
Other than party-political, what's the justification for statehood for DC?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lendo
I can understand why it's not, but am interested in why some want it.
Absolutely despicable person imoQuote:
Originally Posted by marinello59
I’m not sure of the main motivations really, but I think the crux of the argument is that the policies of a new DC State could directly go against those of the federal government, who would be the biggest employer in the state. (That’s probably a gross oversimplification)Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Politically it’s purely because it would be a guarantee of two safe Democrat seats.
Straight away DC would get two senators. Two more would be added if Puerto Rico gets Statehood.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
That would straight away be 4 Democratic Party senators.
For me, I’ll hark back to the founding of the Republic and the Boston Tea Party.
No Taxation, Without Representation.
Imagine if Britain had given the colonies MPs to sit in Parliament in London. A whole different ball game.
J
https://twitter.com/NPR/status/1347041126197428226?s=19
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Why not incorporate DC into Maryland?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bristolhibby
(I'm also wondering if there are parallels with Australia)
Last night's events were like a really bad episode of Designated Survivor.
In a party that has IDS, Johnson, Hancock, Gove, McVey and more, it takes a special level of effort to be one of the worst human beings in that party but Pritti Patel does a sterling job.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimBHibees
I hate to think what could potentially happen at Biden's inauguration. If some nutjob Trump supporter does something horrific at that then you really have to wonder where America is going to end up.
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Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
That would be the most logical thing to do.
Hence the reason it won't ever happen.
facebook/instagram suspend trump for two weeks at least and possibly indefinitely
twitter should follow suit, he would explode
None of the arrestees were from the DC area.Quote:
Originally Posted by Callum_62
I doubt Twitter will.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
Yes, he would explode, but he'd move to Gab or somewhere else. His followers would go with him and ditch Twitter. News outlets would continue to report his words thereby giving publicity to the new platform and millions would join it globally to enjoy the car crash, if nothing else.
Trump has probably been good for Twitter.
I like the constant barrage of stories about White House Staffers resigning.
Well, yeah, they only have two weeks left in their jobs so it's a rather obvious thing to do. I wouldn't read too much into it (like they've suddenly developed a conscience or a sense of right and wrong).
This is deserting the sinking ship time
It’s something I’m not even comfortable talking about, but I’d imagine Kamala has a huge active security detail around her these days. Just the vast scale of horribleness against her even from mainstream right wing voices on Twitter is frightening.Quote:
Originally Posted by Since90+2
:agree: At the very latest, anyone with any kind of integrity would have dumped him after he ridiculed the disabled guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
Anyone with integrity wouldn't have touched Trump from the get go. He first got involved in running for president via the racist 'Birther' conspiracy relating to Obama. It was so obvious he was incapable, unqualified and morally unfit. His entire life has been a con.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
Its not fashionable to say so, but it started with John McCain, he isn’t the great all round non partisan guy hes been painted as recently. Him putting Sarah Palin on the ticket and opening the door to the tea party started all this extreme right wing liberalism off. I see Palin said on Fox today that yesterday’s senate riot was actually antifa dressed up as nazis. Right hen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba
I've asked this to the people I know here who are fully on board with that line of thinking: What would be in it for them (antifa type people)? They've technically already won.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
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Originally Posted by Haymaker
I realise this is probably a stupid question but, is everything OK where you are?
Where I am certainly. No problems that I have heard about anyway. Lot of pissed off people but no one rioting or anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
Pelosi calls for the 25th Amendment to be used and if Pence doesn't do that, then congress will likely move forward with an impeachment.
His days are numbered.
A tweet she put on Kamala Harris' Twitter:Quote:
Originally Posted by Callum_62
"No the f*** you will not! No masks, no you, no Biden the kid raper, no vaccines...sit your fraudulent ass down...we the ppl bitch!"
This was in response to a tweet talking about Biden and Harris' plans.
Commonashsense was her Twitter account. It's horrendous.
Personally, the person I have sympathy for is the poor cop who was forced to shoot. I have no sympathy for any terrorist who is killed in the process of committing their crime.
Pelosi - Trump gave Putin "his biggest gift yesterday" and "our country is a difficult place with Trump in office". Not holding back. Brilliant.