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Wonder who would decide? is there a committee or board or is it just down to Donkey?
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Originally Posted by truehibernian
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He was a Liverpool player and his loan was over. It was a loophole they exploited as we all know.Quote:
Originally Posted by tamig
I fully expect them to be working tirelessly to find a loophole in the current rule situation and wouldn't be totally surprised if they signed a player in this window before us.
Hopefully the SPFL board stand firm.:greengrin
They did exploit it but I really can't see the SPFL board letting them sign someone unless it does get to the stage where they're toiling to fulfil fixtures. That would be exceptional circumstances in my book - and that's all Donkey has stated.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spike Mandela
In the next few weeks I fully expect Hearts to have guys on crutches and head to toe in bandages walking to sit on the bench.:greengrin manipulation overdrive!Quote:
Originally Posted by tamig
“A club, however, can apply to sign players on an individual basis and it is then up to the board to make a decision on whether or not they should be registered. As of yet, we have not had such an approach from Hearts.”
I read this the other day and thought that Doncaster was inviting them to apply to sign players. If they are granted permission I hope they are ready for all hell being let loose.
Donkey doesn't get to decide anything, he's just the spokesman for whatever the clubs decide.Quote:
Originally Posted by PatHead
Any signing will also have to pass the Aly McCoist test. He's watching :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Jim44
So a £250k sale this morning soon became £200k, which then became £150k, which has now become a "six figure sum" offer according to STV. If it gets much lower Hear7s will soon be paying them.
This is all a ploy to get the signing embargo lifted by saying "we need to sell to see out the season but don't have enough players." Hearts should not have been allowed to start the season if there was a danger of not completing it. Teach other clubs a lesson and get rid of them now.
Basically call their bluff.
'exceptional circumstances' ........ hmmmQuote:
Originally Posted by VivaPalmeiras
Tomorrow's headline ?? -
'MASS FLU/CHOLERA/SPANISH-PLAGUE-OUTBREAK AT PBS - ENTIRE 1ST TEAM AFFECTED' -
Hearts spokesman Ilye Allott (first name pronounced 'I-lie') made the following statement - 'Medical staff estimate they won't be fit again until the end of the season - BJ is unavailable for comment as he hot-footed it to Hampden armed with 'Exceptional Circumstances' hit-list of replacements GL had fortunately already been compiling ...... oops, sorry - 'watching' !!
It should be noted this has always been the case. I believe the authorities could also have dispensation to allow a club to sign a player outside of the transfer window as well.
Hearts will have to take this to a panel though and they will need to make a very convincing case. If they just go and say "cause we're rubbish and it's worth a punt" then not only will it get rejected, they could also be fined for wasting time.
Doncaster is baiting them. He wants them to go through the expense and time of formulating a case so that it can be denied.
I wonder if BDO thought they could just ask and they'd get? Doncaster playing by the rules and making sure everything is done correctly so they cannot be brought into question by the yams and other teams.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bajillions
Agreed. If they want to make a case then they should do it formally rather than bleating about it in the press. At that point questions can be asked like "Why are you not putting a full bench out when it's clear that you can?"Quote:
Originally Posted by Bajillions
:agree: The Famous making the classic mistake of assuming that because they have successfully pulled the wool over the eyes of 400,000 dullards for the whole of the last eight years, they can do so over the rest of us just as easily now. ******wits.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mellow Hibee
Perhaps Doncaster is calling Jackson's bluff? He is laying out the process of special dispensation clearly for all to understand. As a consequence if the skintoids really do have a player in mind they have to name him and give specific reasons for special dispensation in respect of that specific player as opposed to the cretinous Billy Bog mantra of "gonnae lift yon ban coz its no fair." This should put a halt to Jackson et al blaming the SPFL for a general player shortage (I know, I know - this won't happen) whilst also outing him by saying name these professional footballers who are prepared to join a sinking ship and risk injury whilst playing for nothing and we shall consider each application on it's merits.
e.g.
Doncaster: "hi Brian can you tell me the names of any of these special dispensation signings?"
Jackson: "No bother Neil, there's an experienced midfielder in the mould of Hitzlsperger called Shan (sic) Lawson and a nippy winger called Francis Albert. Can we sign them please?"
Doncaster: "er no. How's that report on Oldco coming along? Fancy another bourbon?"
hopefully they could count them on one handQuote:
Originally Posted by adhibs
Would like to see Doncaster hit them with a third sanction, for being such moaning faced toerags.
Hopefully, but in all likelihood they'll get more than 6 in.Quote:
Originally Posted by gorgie greens
Maybe the gorgie morgue-ey will be so empty Scott Wilson will introduce the crowd to the players, "in row d seat 15 we have the guy with the tattoo on his back, in row h seat 19(02) chuckle chuckle we have the guy who assaulted Neil Lennon, in Row L seat 07 we have the guy who assaulted Derek Riordan, in row M seat 62 we have the peer (or should that be pee'er) Lord Foulkes ... WAKE UP GEORGE THE FOOTBALLERS ARE OUT ... and finally in row p we are delighted to say we've paid for him to be here (he's leaving at halftime so be quick) its rooooodi skacel"
In my minds eye he will then shout at the footballers to "make some noise"
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Originally Posted by Bajillions
This. Doncaster is reading from the rule book, nothing more. This health and safety stuff is nonsense anyway, they have 38 registered players so if some of the poor wee lambs are 'burnt out' then play someone else. It's quite ironic that it's only BDO, Locke and Brown who are bleating about this. Any interviews with the players seem to state the complete opposite how playing at such an early age is doing them the world of good.
your material is better than bam cowan's is!Quote:
Originally Posted by Springbank
PMSL at that scenario Springbank, as well as all the other guff the yams are coming out with :faf:Quote:
Originally Posted by Springbank
Great thread this keep it up lads :thumbsup:
Tickety Tock
Scott Wilson - carpet salesman.Quote:
Originally Posted by Springbank
Scott Wilson - carpet muncher.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack
Lol 10/10Quote:
Originally Posted by Springbank
Well Locke keeps telling us he's not making any excuses, and Billy Brown has been places. It's all a bit of a mystery.Quote:
Originally Posted by KeithTheHibby
Looks like from this that they are sweating on the shares being handed over by next month or.....http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.co...deal-1-3264506
Lovin it !.
I think Hertz have backed themselves into a corner here. It's going to be interesting to see their team today. They are now bleating about only having 12 available because of new injuries and illnesses. So do they play today with 1 sub just to make a point prior to the meeting on Monday or do these players have a miraculous Lazarus like recovery a la Tattoo Man and field their normal (albeit garbage) team to try and pick up some points. Either way, they're going to a laughing stock.
Personally I hope they go with their full team and the Well put 8 past them. Then they are laughed out of their meeting on Monday. Best of both worlds.
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Originally Posted by greenpaper55
Might be a bitter Hobo, but this along with other statements in the last couple of days lead me to think that the Yams will be dead by the end of March unless the deal goes through.Quote:
“There’s no real Plan B after that. If we get to the end of February and the deal’s not done then we need to assess whether the deal’s going to get done at all and if so how close we are to getting it completed. If we’re close to getting it done, then we might be able to hold on for another few weeks. The situation’s pretty fluid, it’s just a case of assessing all your options at the time.”
Meanwhile, Jackson insists Hearts have enough funds to survive a six-week period without a home game after today’s visit from Motherwell.
It would explain why they are so desperate to get to the league cup final.
Hmm... So he's saying they've got money until end of February and at a push can maybe last a couple of weeks more?Quote:
Originally Posted by greenpaper55
:greengrin
It's not quite the done deal they were trumpetingQuote:
Originally Posted by greenpaper55
This for me ladies and gentlemen is a defining point.Quote:
Originally Posted by greenpaper55
I don't believe BJ has to date admitted (until now):-
1. They run out of money in less than 7 weeks (or 0-7!).
2. Admitted real concern around timing
3. Admitted that yams STILL need TWO block of shares and dependant on TWO shareholder meetings (still unscheduled).
As someone said, one of the key reasons they want new players im and now is for cup semi. That game will earn them £500k+ if they make the final. ICT should be firing up the lawyers as we speak with a pre-emptive strike!
This is where the real fun starts.
My favourite part of the statement- "There’s no real Plan B after that. If we get to the end of February and the deal’s not done then we need to assess whether the deal’s going to get done at all " explains the need to sell players and get other players in for nothing. They should never have been allowed to start the season without a bond being paid to make sure they finished it.
Nowhere in this article does the word 'FROZEN' appear ??.Quote:
Originally Posted by greenpaper55
... because it's not yet news. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Deansy
When it does become so, it will be accompanied by such words as "shock", "bombshell", "out of our control" and "it's not our fault".
The Yams are close to the point of no return. As soon as they accept there's little/no hope of surviving relegation, the games will really begin - expect them to bleat about injuries, suspensions, illnesses. They'll reduce their bench to 1 or 2 players and fill the team with (proper) kids - except when they play the Hibs. They'll do everything within their powers to disrupt the League and annoy the SPFL. They will blame EVERYONE and ANYONE for their predicament - as that plays to their fans and deflects any blame from themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadesLongThrow
'Frozen shares', much like the words 'cheating', 'financial-doping', 'stole from charities', 'deserve their punishment' and 'creditors shafted'.....have never been words or phrases used by that newspaper to comment on Hearts situation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Deansy
Really looks like a sellout-NOT. Hearts online booking as of this moment with hardly an area sold out. Looks like a 13500 crowd again.
https://www.eticketing.co.uk/heartof...px?itemref=839
Notice they have a full bench today including both King brothers. However Urineface can't help himself
Hearts manager Gary Locke: "We've had a bit of a bug going about the camp. We've not had our problems to seek. Kevin McHattie and Scott Robinson start and I just hope they can last the 90 minutes."
Anyone else sick of his moaning?
'We've took it all on the chin and no made excuses.' Aye right enough Gary, right enough... :aok:Quote:
Originally Posted by PatHead
that does seem competitive! might apply for that job myselfQuote:
Originally Posted by whiskyhibby
12,888 Hearts fans with 829 Motherwell fans. Genuine number this week.
Fans deserting them in their droves now after the last home crowd.
The BBC reports 12,888 in total.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bajillions
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Originally Posted by jgl07
he means of which 829 were murrawell fans....
I meant to say that as well, my mistake.Quote:
Originally Posted by jgl07
It's 12,888 total, 829 of them being Motherwell fans.
That's a 6% drop in attendance over last week.
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Originally Posted by Coco Bryce
i'l go against the grain :greengrin 12,000 for bottom of the league with a bare squad, have to give them at least(just a wee bitty mind) some credit for showing up
i feel durty now :sick:
Good and now they've not got a home game until 22nd of Feb. PleasingQuote:
Originally Posted by Bajillions
It's a decent enough turn out but I assume the majority are only going because they've already bought a season ticket.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
Also it won't last all season. I'm pretty sure making fans watch eye bleeding football like that contravenes the geneva convention.
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Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
Who told you that was the number that turned up?
AFAIK, it's still number of tickets sold.
I did. That's the genuine attendance this week. I gave the real one last week also and that was considerably lower.Quote:
Originally Posted by keekaboo
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Originally Posted by keekaboo
well if that is indeed the case does that mean 1500 yamboid walk-up's ?
So, they've claimed throughout the week that they are 'no threat to anyone' and we've read all week about how they are repeatedly on the end of morale destroying batterings. We've also been sickened with their pish about not being able to fill their bench.
Fast forward to today, a very narrow defeat against the second best team in the league. They also had a full bench. So, what's it to be SPFL/SFA?! They look pretty ok to me. Well, they are pish-obviously-but they have more than enough players
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Originally Posted by Bajillions
no you didn't...it was the match commentator that told me :greengrin
Walk ups will be closer to 900-1100 as they sold around 400 half season tickets.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
They gave the wrong number last week. :na na: They just read what's handed to them by the Yam press repQuote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
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Originally Posted by Bajillions
ah ok :aok:
Each passing day, each new piece of news, that outfit sicken me. Why are they still alive?! FFS
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Originally Posted by Bajillions
so is this the one that's been responsible for all the porkies re attendances ? or...do BDO tell him/her what to say
Also, it pains me but I can just see them sneaking past ICT and into this final. That could be the thing that saves them. They should be nowhere near that semi after their 3 previous rounds. ICT look dreadful since Yogi went up there. Can see another penalties win for them after 120 minutes of eye bleeding football from both teams. I didn't think they could ever top their run to the final of the 2012 SC final for pure unadulterated luck, however this would
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Originally Posted by Bajillions
Cheers, I need to pay more attention :thumbsup:
yamboids being invited to call sportsound extra for thoughts on the golden showered one
BDO have the power to report the real figure but Hearts have always chose to do Season Tickets + Walkups going back quite a while. That's just a legacy thing that seems to have carried over. It would appear most of the season ticket holders turned up this week but that walk ups were very low hence the number being accurate. They can get away with saying a season ticket holder was in their seat when they weren't but they can't claim a walk up was there.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
I said away back at the start of the season the true measurement would be the games that Season Ticket holders don't get into: Cup Matches and Friendlies. Their cup match against Celtic was the best attended and still only managed just over 10,000. IIRC the celtic end was a sell out at 3800 so that left just over 6000 Yams. I've no idea how many of them were still there at Half Time though :greengrin
Michael Stewart giving it tight to Locke and Brown on Sportsound just now, the gist of what he is saying is basically they are sh?te and seems like he knows better, yams against yams is pleasing.
I'm not listening but he talks a lot of sense normally (IMO). BB was in the radio having a go at him during the week so I'm sure he's having some back.Quote:
Originally Posted by stoneyburn hibs
Loads of folk moaned about what he was saying about Fenlon but he was proven to be right in the end.
Thing is he probably does have more of a clue than that pair of roastersQuote:
Originally Posted by stoneyburn hibs
Not heard whay Mikey Stewaert has said but he tends to be unbias when it comes to things
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Originally Posted by Bajillions
Righty i get it now ta :agree:
Wouldnt it be ironic if one of the finalacts of Hearts was to win the League Cup by fair means.......
Suppose it would also be ironic if one of their final acts was to win the league cup by cheating again and getting to sign some players
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Originally Posted by Danderhall Hibs
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Originally Posted by Aldo
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Originally Posted by weonlywon6-2
When he was at Hearts,he was a dick. As a pundit, he`s honest and unbiased. I hated the roaster as a Hearts player but like him as an analyst.
(and i`m allowed to do so because fitba fans are allowed to be two-faced and fickle.... ) :wink:
11th Jan and still no date given for meeting of UBIG creditors?
I think they said they hoped it would be "first quarter". Which indicates they haven't really thought about it yet. But I could be wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
I thought the idea of having the Yes/No questions was quite good tonight. It raised some interesting responses.Quote:
Originally Posted by stoneyburn hibs
"Did JC ever strip off to show off his fine physique?"Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
Mikey - "Yes."
My question was the last to be asked:
michael, do you have your eye on one of the new flats planned for tynecastle? :wink:
I think we should show support and avoid mentioning them here too.Quote:
Originally Posted by SurferRosa
There was quite a pause when that was asked!Quote:
Originally Posted by sixtwo
That Evening News article makes it quite clear that they only have 6 weeks funding left. Knocks the Yam myth that they have enough to last the season for 6.
If true, then the begging bowl should be out in time for the January salaries going in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Surely they're getting some readies from swansea?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dunderhall
My father-in-law, nephew and Mrs didn't go this week for first time all season. Only been going because this is nephews first season ticket and he will go whatever the weather/team/impending destruction. This week my father-in-law bribed him with tickets to see Newcastle Man City as a trade off for not going.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coco Bryce
Made me chuckle!
Golden Shower told BBC Scotland pre-match that, despite what the EEN reported on Friday, the offer has not been accepted and is still being negotiated.Quote:
Originally Posted by clerriehibs
This is a good article that hit the nail on the head regarding preventing this happening again but it's still hilarious reading yet another yam preaching to everyone on the benefits of financial fair play.
http://www.theguardian.com/football/...gue?CMP=twt_gu
Surely you're not saying that Barry Anderson would print something that turned out to untrue? That would be quite the sequence of events if that happened. :fibber:Quote:
Originally Posted by robinp
And today's completely plucked-out-of-the-air attendance was a whopping 12,888
Cretins.
The article cites the 20,000 non-attending season ticket holders regularly included in Celtic gates yet somehow omits to mention the 7,000 non-attending Hearts season ticket holders. I wonder why?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Upstanding, honest, informed journalist is oor Barry..............said nobody ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bajillions
One thing I do agree with in his (Euan Murray;s)article is that accounts should be submitted prior to the season and the need to ensure clubs can see out the season.
I believe if you pay for the hospitality at the pbs instead of naming the man of the match your allowed to pick the day's attendanceQuote:
Originally Posted by Sergey
That 'll be the 10,500 St holders (about 6 k who were there but counted) and say 500 M'Well giving a a total of 1,888 walk ups.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sergey
I don't get these attendance figures counting season tickets even if they are a no show, surely it's how many people who come through the turnstiles, is it to make their figures look good or something?Quote:
Originally Posted by jgl07
Arsenal are the same, I was at a game a few years ago and the stadium was about 3/4 full I said to the guy I was with what do you think the attendance is his reply about 40k, official attendance was 60k. It must be a big team thing!! :cb
We've done the maths a few pages back. I've also checked and it was the genuine attendance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dashing Bob S
829 Motherwell fans and approx 11000 season tickets are the numbers if you're interested. That makes it closer to 1000 walk ups.
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Originally Posted by PatHead
Trouble with that is the likes of Romanov would not even let the Club's accountants see the paperwork that was supposedly securing Heart's ability to see out seasons. :cb
Then they don't get to play in the leagueQuote:
Originally Posted by greenginger
May have have been a Bajillion post (not sure) but the upfront amount was meant to be nothing like the amount reported if it happens.Quote:
Originally Posted by clerriehibs
Semi final is probably more important.
That means that they'll have got around £40k-£50k to cover the match costs and also cover the wages for the rest of the month. The talk of 6 weeks till the BDO money runs out is probably not far off the mark.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bajillions
The football club has been picking up the BDO tab since the CVA vote at the end of November. Has there been any indication what it has cost the club so far ?
At £500 an hour Jackson better not waste too much time writing appeals to SFA/SPFL or giving meaningless garbled statements like tonight's EEN piece.
" BDO sells Heart's Starlet to Swansea to pay their own fees " ......... now that would be a headline for a redtop. :greengrin
One thing this whole farce is proving is that administration should mean automatic relegation to the bottom league.
I know the Jambos like to talk about wage-thiefs well that's kinda funny as all the players over the financial doping era have been effectively that.