Robertson is being deified over on KB just now. Some are suggesting that he should replace McGlib immediately. Is Blobby the new Super Ally. :-)
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Robertson is being deified over on KB just now. Some are suggesting that he should replace McGlib immediately. Is Blobby the new Super Ally. :-)
They'll all have been told to voluntarily suspend wages demands so the spl won't be interested.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
My point was really that Rangers went bust and one of the conditions of "Sevco West" being allowed to remain within the SFL was that they paid up the "football debt".Quote:
Originally Posted by WindyMiller
Given the previous of rangers FC (not paying for wallace, selling jelevic before they have even paid for him) I would have thought it prudent to make sure this was settled. Although it also highlights the Yam stupidity in not receiving payment for Wallace and then giving them tick for Templeton whilst hitting the financial buffers themselves.
As you allude to, I cant imagine Rod falling for that one.
He's as deluded as the punters...Quote:
Originally Posted by Famous Fiver
Surely they have still failed to meet their contractual obligations, voluntarily or not?Quote:
Originally Posted by clerriehibs
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Originally Posted by S.sct
John Robertson could'nt run a Heart's Pub in Gorgie Road.
Ideal choice to oversee the share offer scam ! :agree:
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Originally Posted by S.sct
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If hearts go bust tonight, and scores against them are voided, guess who that would send straight to the top of the league (clue: hiberni-n)
Oh and we'd get a bye in the special relationship cup at their expense too
Please get him in before the cup tie as nothing would please me more if he is the manager when we put them oot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim44
All this merriment AND the league and cup double in the bag - it doesn't get better than this! :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Springbank
He he.Quote:
Originally Posted by WindyMiller
Maybe, to the letter of the law, but remember this is the SPL we are talking about, who make it up as they go along. If no-one at swyney is complaining, they'll let it go.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaiser1962
The rules were changed so that the players did not have to make a complaint. It's up to Hearts to notify the SPL they have not paid within a couple of days.Quote:
Originally Posted by clerriehibs
Not sympathising or making excuses for the Yams, but Sevco thickoes need to consider that Hearts tax bill of £2m doesn't really compare to the late Rangers FC's (RIP) £90m. I think Vlad will pay up also, unlike that zombie filth in Govan.
No need for comparisons. Gorgie or Govan, filth is filth. Sevco have their own thread on hibs.net, no need to use them on this thread to put the gorgie filth in a better light.Quote:
Originally Posted by FalkirkHibby
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Originally Posted by clerriehibs
The Govan variety filth stink a lot more. £2m aint £90m. Doesn't mean the Gorgie mob don't stink of course. :greengrin
Must be a Hun thing
fth and I hope they die.Quote:
Originally Posted by FalkirkHibby
Good to see Rangers, in their new guise, trying to cash in on Hearts problems by trying to renege on the original deal and get Wallace on the cheap.
Missed this whats happened?
Its not Wallace its TempletonQuote:
Originally Posted by eebsie
According to the BBC, it's Wallace.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibbybri
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20281242
I find it strange if it is true. By taking the £500k now, they could pay off HMRC and buy themselves some time.
F ME!! If the huns just paid their outstanding transfer fees to the gorgie muppets then they would be debt free:greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Vlad must have a plan in place to refuse that money....surely? :confused:
Either to lend them the money, and then charge ridiculous amounts of interest..... which he'll never get.Quote:
Originally Posted by essexhibee
OR, and this was my first thought.... to just let it go pop on Thursday.
CWG
I think this indicates Vlad wil stump up. There is no other explanation.
He gets the deluded to contribute £2 Mill, keeps them going, he trousers the Wallace money and his loss at the end of the season is £2.8 million less, (£2 mill from the unwashed and £800,000 from Sevco), when the plug is finally pulled.
Oh, and he gets the bulk of the proceeds of the sale of PBS, whether they go into administration first, or then liquidated, because whatever way you wrap it up he owns the title deeds.
Ok, he takes a hit but hecan rent the ground back to the new Hearts at a greatly inflated rent.
Del Boy couldn't have worked it better.
If he lets it go pop on Thursday, which will then be followed by the shortest liquidation in history, Vlad still gets his £800k does he not?Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Fair shout, but do you think the fans will give anywhere near £2m?Quote:
Originally Posted by Famous Fiver
...yes, if the liquidator manages to screw Green's balls to the floor for long enough. :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Kaiser1962
Sorry, yes. RFC would be legally liable for the full £800k.
Both scenarios are agreeable.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Three questions about Thursday
1. Is it a public hanging?
2. Where do you get tickets?
3. Is it set for a time or is it just in a queue?
Sorry 4th- when is the party?
To me that says that his plan is to not give a toss about Hearts.Quote:
Originally Posted by essexhibee
If he wanted to save them, why not take that life saving money now? If they hit the wall Rangers will still have to cough up the full £800k to the liquidators, which will go to UBIG. So more money for Vlad.
I'm sure the Brokebackers will be saluting his defiant standing up to Rangers cheeky move, but really it's a slap in the face to them. Fair play to Rangers though, yes they'd get a discount, but potentially this gesture could offer a stay of the hangman's noose and they didn't have to make it.
Or why not just get HMRC to close them down now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Famous Fiver
Saves 7 months of massive wages, the Tax Bills disappear along with all the other stuff he is due, the Tax Tribunal becomes an irrelevance which he does not have to pay lawyers to lodge an appeal.
His securities and floating charge means he keeps the PBS , the transfer income due and probably even the name and history of HOMFC to sell or lease to a Maroon Sevco should one appear.
His biggest loss - they won't love him any more down Gorgie. :greengrin
Okay how do you get into the inner sanctum? I have been lured in by Sergey which is annoying as I deleted a thread at his personal request and will be very unhappy if I get the inside line just as the pink bubble pops. My wife thinks I am immature because I smirk about the position Hetrtz find themselves in but today she redeemed herself with you said Hearts are pointless but they're not they got 1 today.
Can't believe they still do to be honest :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by greenginger
I heard on the radio that Hearts will request a delay to the hearing, while HMRC wont agree to it, they wont oppose it either which means Thursday is no more than ..... ThursdayQuote:
Originally Posted by PatHead
They said they could ask to delay, not that they will.Quote:
Originally Posted by comfortablynumb
I just want them dead and buried ASAP, sick of them......
100,000c at Cup Final Parade, do we think they will get more for the funeral procession........:cb
Absolutely- at least 100,001- I will go just to dance on their grave!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Baldy Foghorn
I would go too.....Do you want to do a gangham style gig with me, like Sparky and Spoony have been doing whilst celebrating goals? :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Suburban Hibby
I will remember my 19th birthday for the rest of my life if those cheating arrogant mutants play their last game on 17th of November.
What a present it would be :greengrin
Doing it Gangnam Style while Hearts die.Quote:
Originally Posted by Baldy Foghorn
Imagine it haha thousands of Hibbies all doing it as one :D
Are you volunteering to co-ordinate that Scott?Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottB
Aw naw. They are going to be saved.
Some fud on JKB has organised a pub quiz for Wednesday night so between that and the cake stand everything is rosy.
as the majority(sp at this time of night !) shareholder VR gets sod all if he accepts the offer,....as it goes to the club,....a few days from now,and VR claims the £800,000 as the major ceditor ........sorted !Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaiser1962
A simple conga next week at dens park will do me, :pray: the younger ones can do what they like. :wink:
Just like State Street days, get it right round them!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Baldy Foghorn
A pub quiz for the yams, could be a very long night........No need to bring calculators for the winning points total......Quote:
Originally Posted by PatHead
I might go along to that. Should be easy to win.Quote:
Originally Posted by PatHead
Conga would be easier for me.........Quote:
Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs
Look at the first ad at the foot of the page http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scot...gry-Elvis.html
Debt free within 36 months - great product placement!
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Originally Posted by Hexham Hibee
There's now an advert about a 'Greener Scotland' and 'let's go Greener together' by the Scottish government. Someone must be on the the wind-up with the ads. :greengrin
Oh yes there is. Why take £500k now when you can let it all go pop on Thursday and still be owed the full £800k?Quote:
Originally Posted by Famous Fiver
Every single penny he puts into Hearts from now on is a penny that he won't see again. They're on their own with this one.
I have just been in conversation with a real Ibrox insider. I cannot disclose his identity so please do not ask. He told me the following. Charles Green contacted Hearts and offered to pay tax bill of £450 grand or thereabouts and Mr Romanov refused the cash. Mr R is confident that the flumps will pay it and wants to keep the Sevco cash for a lated date. If this is true I have changed my stance and hope it goes bollocks skywards. Does anyone know or can anyone confirm any part of this claim?
BTW I am pissed so hope this makes sense.
I think we should give Brokeback credit where its due.
They've managed to raise £2000 by digging deep, baking cakes, emptying kids piggy banks and having pub quizzes.
They only need £10 000 a day (every day) between now and the end of the season to survive.
So the £2000 hard earned cash will last them under 5 hours!
To simplify. Its just after 1 o'clock now. I'll set my alarm for 6 o'clock and wake up knowing their moneys been spent!
Keep up the good work Brokeback it's that type of attitude that helped you win World War 1.
GGTTH
PS If the team are at a loss what to do on Friday morning the could follow the example of their forefathers and go and sort out Tommy Taliban and Ally Queda!
You are pissed as they were discussing the ins and outs of it on the radio this afternoon :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by fatbloke
Brokeback's brilliant!
Reasonable opening post on this thread http://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index....te-pack-maths/
2nd postQuote:
Its november and we are struggling financially. We are looking to sell tickets for the next 3 games to cover current the immediate tax bill.
So, where are our potential revenue streams?
We will have a further 10 home games (should have at least).Not sure of exact season ticket sales, but say we sell 5000 for each @ £20, Thats £1m.
Given that wages are "over £4m" and we have 6 months to pay (including april) until we are liable to get next seasons season ticket money.
thats about £2.5m
Operating costs are about £1.5m.
Interest is about 700k..
Add in 500k of current tax bill and ignore the potential tax liability and we have £5m to pay by the end of april.
We have £1m of revenue to come in from tickets.
(I assume the share money will go to the big tax bill. - Can any lawyers let me know if its actually a legal obligation for Romanov to reinvest the Share money? Its not new shares, so people are buying shares from him AFAIK, so why are we to believe he wont say, thank you very much and take a couple of million?)
So, where is the missing £4m coming from?
Sale of assets? What assets?
Will merchandising, general fundraising and cup money cover £4m?
No.
Since Romanov took over, Every set of accounts has a operating loss of at least £7m with the exception of the year the Gordon money went in when we only made £3.5m loss. Some have been sugar coated with DFE swaps or FoD.
£4m/10000 ST holders = £400 each in the next 6 months, just to scrape by to next season, when we will still be in dire straits.
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I think player transfers (past and future) will play an important part.
To be fair on them they have raised about £11,000 according to Brokeback. Still nothing like enough but they have also arranged a quiz night at a pub so that will sort it all. They have a real history of rising to the occassion though. I took this from an article on Scotland on Sunday.Quote:
Originally Posted by Archie70
"In the last league match at Tynecastle before their second relegation, Hearts were watched by just 2,400 spectators"
Not looking good for them in D3 is it? Big club, my arse
Just up.
Are they dead yet?
Sadly not but it still seems to be a "Dead Man Walking" Situation :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Barney McGrew
Not yet but they do smell like itQuote:
Originally Posted by Barney McGrew
So looking forward to Wednesday/Thursday of this week.Do or die as they say... Hopefully the former but they rise in the third division as the 'big team'! Don't you just love it!
i'd prefer to pi5s on it then crap over it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suburban Hibby
think of all the faggot Hertz people who'll sob this week......JJ, JR, A Preston, Mercer's son, G McKay, Salmond, Cardownie, Flat Eric, Child, Wee Ronnie C, I Black, C Gordon, K Black, Billy Brown (yes)......suffer you plebs:greengrin
It's so obvious UBIG doesn't have a pot to p!3s in at the moment.
Hearts wages not getting paid, plus the unpaid PAYE/VAT bill. There's now the unpaid wages at the basketball team and the Birac aluminium works for the past three months.
I said a few years ago Vlad reminded me of Robert Maxwell in his business operations. It appears to me that he's been moving money around his 'empire' when it's needed, but now the cash has dried up. He's not got any cash coming in from anywhere at the moment, hence the running costs not being met. If it is the end game for UBIG I don't think I would be bothering too much about a far flung football team at the other side of Europe.
Will HMRC have an opinion on Hearts knocking back the Sevco cash?
the gland that is romanov will be hoping that his lithuanian slaves like the yam ******s will get their kids to give their piggy banks over for the cause. rotten , disgusting arse of a man
Have they not got a multi award winning pop star as fan? What was his name?.... Cicero?
Could he not organise a Live Aid event for them?
Get a new version of "Feed The Jambos" out in time for Christmas?
That's bound to rake in £10 to £20 at the very least....
Im sure Hearts have plenty wealthy supporters ,I think once the dust settles and they know whats what a saviour will save them in some shape or form
Absolutely they will. Anyone who has ever been late with a tax bill will tell you that they will encourage you to sell everything you own in order that they get paid.Quote:
Originally Posted by s.a.m
Is there a single ,sound, business reason for keeping HOMFC trading.
Any income generated will be dwarfed by the expenses of running the club until the end of the season. Vlad has all the securities in place and will be entitled to all assets of the club for the cost a liquidator fee.
Vlad is ruthless, and he is now disparate as he sees his business empire crumble. He will see every penny as a prisoner and will not be worried about any flack as it will no doubt all be the fault of the tax authorities, the SFA and the other targets of his rants.
His latest rant in the Russian papers about our referees taking bungs from Rangers and Celtic could have expected a huge SFA fine but Vlad don't care; Hearts ain't going to be there to pay any fine.
Next season Maroon Sevco will have bought the badge and history of HOMFC from Vlad ( for a lot more than the Govan lot paid ) and will start in Div3.
At least thats what I would do if I was Vlad. :greengrin
I've just thought up a new scenario.
1) Mad Vlad separates the physical assets (stadium and, ehm, ....) from the football club.
2) Sells physical assets on the open market to whoever will buy, e.g. Tesco
3) Chuckie Green buys Hearts FC, including the SPL Membership.
4) Chuckie changes the name of his current club to Glasgow Rangers, New Rangers, whatever.
5) Chuckie changes name of SPL team Hearts to Rangers and their club colours and moves them to Ibrox.
6) Chuckie takes the best of the players from each club for his SPL version and the crappiest players and reserves for his D3 version.
7) Modify the names registered as owners of each club to get around the rule on one person owning more than one senior club.
RESULT: A Rangers 1st team in the SPL, playing at Ibrox and a Rangers reserves in the D3, playing at Ibrox.
If they get paid they won't bother where the money comes from as long as it was raised legally and morally. I have a feeling that the reason they issued the WUP in the first place is that there was an agreement between them and the yams that the share issue would settle it - not a great business model, but it does the job. However, when the prospectus came out with no mention of the tax liability it became money raised under false pretences and HMRC could not accept that, and nor should the prospective 'investors'.Quote:
Originally Posted by s.a.m
I think HoMFC see the prospective cash as a negotiating tool - 'look, we've got £800k coming in shortly, you'd be daft to wind us up now' - but they need the full £800k for any budget to the end of the season to work. If so it's a misguided policy IMO, because HMRC will realise that the money is required for purposes other than paying their dues.
Interestingly though, if HoMFC don't pay up and go into liquidation the process will probably take long enough for the full £800k to fall due. If they took the £500k now it would virtually all go to Hector but in liquidation Hector would become an unsecured creditor and see none of the £800k - that would go to the secured creditor, and we all know who that is.
As a side point, it's worth remembering that Sergejus Fedotovas is a director of UBIG - he knows exactly what the plan is even though he's claiming to be in the dark.
Remember Cicero. His song was no bad, I hate myself
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Originally Posted by keekaboo
I can live with any scenario that exterminates HMFC. Can you e-mail this suggestion to Chuckie just in case he aint thought of it.:greengrin
i went over there for my daily dose of hilarity, today they are back obsessed with us, we are the luckiest team ever, they have a better midfield than us, Novakiakidingdong or whatever his name is, he's a better player than Spoony, Taoul is better than Claros etc haha
least we took their minds off their impending doom for a couple of hours
do they have more threads about us than we have about them?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mon Dieu4
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Originally Posted by keekaboo
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Originally Posted by Minder
OK. Anyone got his E-Mail address? :greengrin
I'm just back from ER and watching a bit of the rugby. Most of the crowd look pretty cold & hungry, like they could use some soup to warm them up...
Any of them sporting poorly applied facepaint?Quote:
Originally Posted by mixumatosis
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Originally Posted by Caversham Green
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We aren't on the verge of extinction to be fairQuote:
Originally Posted by comfortablynumb
wiz working and missed it.Quote:
Originally Posted by youngyosh
Be a real shame if the were to go bust while we were top of the league.
I've had a bellyful of Tommy Walsh's Eco-house.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibees 7062
There is a thread on kickback about Skacel. They are all getting misty eyed about him pulling pints in some hole of a pub.
They then start debating how important it is for him to return to the club at the end of Jan and even one of the deluded says "offer him what he wants, as long as get him"
They just don't get it do they? It's as if - once they get rid of this unfair and pesky tax bill (which is a disgrace they are being made to pay in a lump sum by the way) they are back on track to get a striker, Rudi and few additions in Jan.
I was speaking to one of their deluded followers at work and he just could not see that they have to live within their means. He claims that "It's ok to sign Rudi and others in January as we are trying to bring the wage bill down but need better players as the first team is *****" :jamboclow--- well that OK then isn't it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Col2
I suggested that it would be the same if we tried to sign Messi and pay him his going rate.
They really just don't get it, absolute choobs the lot of them:lolyam:
One day very soon they will wake up and smell the coffee:thumbsup:
Sorry if I have missed this, but what period does the bill that they are due to pay this week cover?
You haven't missed anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by Glory Lurker
HMRC won't say. Fedotovas made a vague reference the other day to "the previous quarter".... that may mean that it's VAT, but may not. :rolleyes:
Hopefully ThursdayQuote:
Originally Posted by banchoryhibs
Thanks. Do you think HMRC would have got to the point of a winding up order if the liability was only incurred in the last quarter?
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Originally Posted by Glory Lurker
Given their previous instances of late payment and generally tardy attitude, probably.
If it's PAYE for the last quarter, given their recent record, yes. If it's VAT, unlikely.Quote:
Originally Posted by Glory Lurker
However, I think that's it more likely that a payment plan that had previously been agreed has been breached.
Thanks, Kato, CWG.
Could wee Ronnie Corbett no dae a wee turn for them? how about a Two Ronnies event but since the real funny talented one Ronnie Barker is sadly dead he could get Fatty Fowkes to play that role?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bighoose
The two Phannies
Or the Two Pishes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bostonhibby
this is the gist of the situation isnt it, it seems to me? i get the impression that Vlads whole operation is going down the tubes and hes desperately moving money around to cover the last tax bill/wages etc. in a forlorn attempt to stay afloat?Quote:
Originally Posted by CyberSauzee
Jambo Ewan Murray hurting..........
“@mrewanmurray: Any 'supporter' who wishes another club shuts down should be embarrassed. Guys like the Dundee fans show how uplifting football should be.”
The response he go from a sympathetic soul, ha ha................
“@GRSmith82: @mrewanmurray I wouldn't *lose 1 min of sleep if Hearts were obliterated. **** them. I hope its a slow and very painfully extinction.”
I must have missed all the sympathy the Hearts fans were showing for Rangers when their club collapsed...Quote:
Originally Posted by Spike Mandela
Irvine Welsh@WelshIrvine
Great to see that Hearts have a ticket office in Chicago :greengrin
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A7IokKSCYAAmd_a.jpg
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