Share Transfers Agreed/Cooling off period

**PatHead** · 10-11-2012 07:45 PM

Three questions about Thursday

1. Is it a public hanging?
2. Where do you get tickets?
3. Is it set for a time or is it just in a queue?

Sorry 4th- when is the party?

**ScottB** · 10-11-2012 07:49 PM

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Vlad must have a plan in place to refuse that money....surely?

To me that says that his plan is to not give a toss about Hearts.

If he wanted to save them, why not take that life saving money now? If they hit the wall Rangers will still have to cough up the full £800k to the liquidators, which will go to UBIG. So more money for Vlad.

I'm sure the Brokebackers will be saluting his defiant standing up to Rangers cheeky move, but really it's a slap in the face to them. Fair play to Rangers though, yes they'd get a discount, but potentially this gesture could offer a stay of the hangman's noose and they didn't have to make it.

***greenginger*** · 10-11-2012 07:49 PM

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CWG

I think this indicates Vlad wil stump up. There is no other explanation.

He gets the deluded to contribute £2 Mill, keeps them going, he trousers the Wallace money and his loss at the end of the season is £2.8 million less, (£2 mill from the unwashed and £800,000 from Sevco), when the plug is finally pulled.

Oh, and he gets the bulk of the proceeds of the sale of PBS, whether they go into administration first, or then liquidated, because whatever way you wrap it up he owns the title deeds.

Ok, he takes a hit but hecan rent the ground back to the new Hearts at a greatly inflated rent.

Del Boy couldn't have worked it better.

Or why not just get HMRC to close them down now.

Saves 7 months of massive wages, the Tax Bills disappear along with all the other stuff he is due, the Tax Tribunal becomes an irrelevance which he does not have to pay lawyers to lodge an appeal.

His securities and floating charge means he keeps the PBS , the transfer income due and probably even the name and history of HOMFC to sell or lease to a Maroon Sevco should one appear.

His biggest loss - they won't love him any more down Gorgie.

***TrinityHibs*** · 10-11-2012 07:54 PM

Okay how do you get into the inner sanctum? I have been lured in by Sergey which is annoying as I deleted a thread at his personal request and will be very unhappy if I get the inside line just as the pink bubble pops. My wife thinks I am immature because I smirk about the position Hetrtz find themselves in but today she redeemed herself with you said Hearts are pointless but they're not they got 1 today.

**NotoriousLor** · 10-11-2012 08:06 PM

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His biggest loss - they won't love him any more down Gorgie.

Can't believe they still do to be honest

**SloopJB** · 10-11-2012 08:23 PM

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Three questions about Thursday

1. Is it a public hanging?
2. Where do you get tickets?
3. Is it set for a time or is it just in a queue?

Sorry 4th- when is the party?

I heard on the radio that Hearts will request a delay to the hearing, while HMRC wont agree to it, they wont oppose it either which means Thursday is no more than ..... Thursday

***matty_f*** · 10-11-2012 08:27 PM

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I heard on the radio that Hearts will request a delay to the hearing, while HMRC wont agree to it, they wont oppose it either which means Thursday is no more than ..... Thursday

They said they could ask to delay, not that they will.

***Baldy Foghorn*** · 10-11-2012 08:40 PM

I just want them dead and buried ASAP, sick of them......

100,000c at Cup Final Parade, do we think they will get more for the funeral procession........

***Suburban Hibby*** · 10-11-2012 08:42 PM

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I just want them dead and buried ASAP, sick of them......

100,000c at Cup Final Parade, do we think they will get more for the funeral procession........

Absolutely- at least 100,001- I will go just to dance on their grave!!!

***Baldy Foghorn*** · 10-11-2012 08:46 PM

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Absolutely- at least 100,001- I will go just to dance on their grave!!!

I would go too.....Do you want to do a gangham style gig with me, like Sparky and Spoony have been doing whilst celebrating goals?

***essexhibee*** · 10-11-2012 08:46 PM

I will remember my 19th birthday for the rest of my life if those cheating arrogant mutants play their last game on 17th of November.

What a present it would be

**ScottB** · 10-11-2012 09:00 PM

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I would go too.....Do you want to do a gangham style gig with me, like Sparky and Spoony have been doing whilst celebrating goals?

Doing it Gangnam Style while Hearts die.

Imagine it haha thousands of Hibbies all doing it as one :D

***Baldy Foghorn*** · 10-11-2012 09:06 PM

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Doing it Gangnam Style while Hearts die.

Imagine it haha thousands of Hibbies all doing it as one :D

Are you volunteering to co-ordinate that Scott?

**PatHead** · 10-11-2012 09:18 PM

Aw naw. They are going to be saved.

Some fud on JKB has organised a pub quiz for Wednesday night so between that and the cake stand everything is rosy.

**jabis** · 10-11-2012 09:20 PM

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If he lets it go pop on Thursday, which will then be followed by the shortest liquidation in history, Vlad still gets his £800k does he not?

as the majority(sp at this time of night !) shareholder VR gets sod all if he accepts the offer,....as it goes to the club,....a few days from now,and VR claims the £800,000 as the major ceditor ........sorted !

***blackpoolhibs*** · 10-11-2012 09:20 PM

A simple conga next week at dens park will do me,

the younger ones can do what they like.

***Suburban Hibby*** · 10-11-2012 09:23 PM

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I would go too.....Do you want to do a gangham style gig with me, like Sparky and Spoony have been doing whilst celebrating goals?

Just like State Street days, get it right round them!!!

***Baldy Foghorn*** · 10-11-2012 09:23 PM

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Aw naw. They are going to be saved.

Some fud on JKB has organised a pub quiz for Wednesday night so between that and the cake stand everything is rosy.

A pub quiz for the yams, could be a very long night........No need to bring calculators for the winning points total......

**Geo_1875** · 10-11-2012 09:24 PM

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Aw naw. They are going to be saved.

Some fud on JKB has organised a pub quiz for Wednesday night so between that and the cake stand everything is rosy.

I might go along to that. Should be easy to win.

***Baldy Foghorn*** · 10-11-2012 09:25 PM

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A simple conga next week at dens park will do me,

the younger ones can do what they like.

Conga would be easier for me.........

***Hexham Hibee*** · 10-11-2012 10:25 PM

Look at the first ad at the foot of the page http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scot...gry-Elvis.html
Debt free within 36 months - great product placement!

**Monopolyguy** · 10-11-2012 11:05 PM

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Look at the first ad at the foot of the page http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scot...gry-Elvis.html
Debt free within 36 months - great product placement!

There's now an advert about a 'Greener Scotland' and 'let's go Greener together' by the Scottish government. Someone must be on the the wind-up with the ads.

***Mikey*** · 10-11-2012 11:08 PM

Originally Posted by Famous Fiver

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CWG

I think this indicates Vlad wil stump up. There is no other explanation.

He gets the deluded to contribute £2 Mill, keeps them going, he trousers the Wallace money and his loss at the end of the season is £2.8 million less, (£2 mill from the unwashed and £800,000 from Sevco), when the plug is finally pulled.

Oh, and he gets the bulk of the proceeds of the sale of PBS, whether they go into administration first, or then liquidated, because whatever way you wrap it up he owns the title deeds.

Ok, he takes a hit but hecan rent the ground back to the new Hearts at a greatly inflated rent.

Del Boy couldn't have worked it better.

Oh yes there is. Why take £500k now when you can let it all go pop on Thursday and still be owed the full £800k?

Every single penny he puts into Hearts from now on is a penny that he won't see again. They're on their own with this one.

**fatbloke** · 11-11-2012 12:09 AM

I have just been in conversation with a real Ibrox insider. I cannot disclose his identity so please do not ask. He told me the following. Charles Green contacted Hearts and offered to pay tax bill of £450 grand or thereabouts and Mr Romanov refused the cash. Mr R is confident that the flumps will pay it and wants to keep the Sevco cash for a lated date. If this is true I have changed my stance and hope it goes bollocks skywards. Does anyone know or can anyone confirm any part of this claim?

BTW I am pissed so hope this makes sense.

**Archie70** · 11-11-2012 12:13 AM

I think we should give Brokeback credit where its due.

They've managed to raise £2000 by digging deep, baking cakes, emptying kids piggy banks and having pub quizzes.

They only need £10 000 a day (every day) between now and the end of the season to survive.

So the £2000 hard earned cash will last them under 5 hours!

To simplify. Its just after 1 o'clock now. I'll set my alarm for 6 o'clock and wake up knowing their moneys been spent!

Keep up the good work Brokeback it's that type of attitude that helped you win World War 1.

GGTTH

PS If the team are at a loss what to do on Friday morning the could follow the example of their forefathers and go and sort out Tommy Taliban and Ally Queda!

**seanshow** · 11-11-2012 12:13 AM

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I have just been in conversation with a real Ibrox insider. I cannot disclose his identity so please do not ask. He told me the following. Charles Green contacted Hearts and offered to pay tax bill of £450 grand or thereabouts and Mr Romanov refused the cash. Mr R is confident that the flumps will pay it and wants to keep the Sevco cash for a lated date. If this is true I have changed my stance and hope it goes bollocks skywards. Does anyone know or can anyone confirm any part of this claim?

BTW I am pissed so hope this makes sense.

You are pissed as they were discussing the ins and outs of it on the radio this afternoon

**~~Peevemor~~** · 11-11-2012 12:27 AM

Brokeback's brilliant!

Reasonable opening post on this thread http://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index....te-pack-maths/

Its november and we are struggling financially. We are looking to sell tickets for the next 3 games to cover current the immediate tax bill.

So, where are our potential revenue streams?

We will have a further 10 home games (should have at least).Not sure of exact season ticket sales, but say we sell 5000 for each @ £20, Thats £1m.
Given that wages are "over £4m" and we have 6 months to pay (including april) until we are liable to get next seasons season ticket money.
thats about £2.5m

Operating costs are about £1.5m.
Interest is about 700k..

Add in 500k of current tax bill and ignore the potential tax liability and we have £5m to pay by the end of april.
We have £1m of revenue to come in from tickets.

(I assume the share money will go to the big tax bill. - Can any lawyers let me know if its actually a legal obligation for Romanov to reinvest the Share money? Its not new shares, so people are buying shares from him AFAIK, so why are we to believe he wont say, thank you very much and take a couple of million?)

So, where is the missing £4m coming from?
Sale of assets? What assets?

Will merchandising, general fundraising and cup money cover £4m?

No.

Since Romanov took over, Every set of accounts has a operating loss of at least £7m with the exception of the year the Gordon money went in when we only made £3.5m loss. Some have been sugar coated with DFE swaps or FoD.

£4m/10000 ST holders = £400 each in the next 6 months, just to scrape by to next season, when we will still be in dire straits.

2nd post

I think player transfers (past and future) will play an important part.

**PatHead** · 11-11-2012 12:30 AM

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I think we should give Brokeback credit where its due.

They've managed to raise £2000 by digging deep, baking cakes, emptying kids piggy banks and having pub quizzes.

They only need £10 000 a day (every day) between now and the end of the season to survive.

So the £2000 hard earned cash will last them under 5 hours!

To simplify. Its just after 1 o'clock now. I'll set my alarm for 6 o'clock and wake up knowing their moneys been spent!

Keep up the good work Brokeback it's that type of attitude that helped you win World War 1.

GGTTH

PS If the team are at a loss what to do on Friday morning the could follow the example of their forefathers and go and sort out Tommy Taliban and Ally Queda!

To be fair on them they have raised about £11,000 according to Brokeback. Still nothing like enough but they have also arranged a quiz night at a pub so that will sort it all. They have a real history of rising to the occassion though. I took this from an article on Scotland on Sunday.

"In the last league match at Tynecastle before their second relegation, Hearts were watched by just 2,400 spectators"

Not looking good for them in D3 is it? Big club, my arse