I pity the fool that tries to wind people up by doing the loser sign.......................and uses the wrong hand.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hot Shot Hamish
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I pity the fool that tries to wind people up by doing the loser sign.......................and uses the wrong hand.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hot Shot Hamish
10/10 :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Geo_1875
A mate said to me once about Skacel that he's not a Hearts fan, he's a Hibs hater and I think he has a point. If you look at his career he's only ever used them to get himself into the shop window whilst taking an overinflated wage. He then does a runner at the first sign of any trouble and is incapable of performing anywhere else. Even when he was at Dundee United he was more interested in winding Hibs fans up than he was putting in a shift for them.
Hearts fans don't realise that for the vast majority of us 5-1 doesn't hurt anymore. It's the epitome of what their club achieved when they were at the height of their cheating powers. They cling to it because that's all they have left.
I'm proud that everything Hibs have ever achieved has been done honestly and in a fashion that shows sporting integrity. Hearts fans are never able to say that about their club.
They can claim they "wouldn't change it" and that's because if they did, they'd have nothing. On this side of Edinburgh we wouldn't swap the integrity of our club for a tainted Scottish Cup win.
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Originally Posted by Bajillions
A wee question which hopefully you might be able to put some light on.
A CVA has been agreed in principle.
Say the offer from FOH is for £2.5m, from which BDO's fees are to be paid.
When does FOH take over paying BDO or does the money continue to be subtracted from the offer? say in 6 months - one years time or whenever.
If the later is the case, could it be possible that the £2.5m will be completely wiped out by BDO's fees and the Liths end up getting nowt, or worse still, if the money runs out totally, who pays BDO the difference
My understanding is that BDO's fees pre-CVA will be taken from the offer, BDO's fees post-CVA are to be taken from Hearts current cash flow.Quote:
Originally Posted by MB62
:greengrin EejitQuote:
Originally Posted by Geo_1875
One of the conditions attached to the agreement in principle was that BDO's fees post agreement can be taken direct from HMFC, excluding next year's STs. So that should limit the fees deducted from the sale to the fees that had accrued up to the agreement.Quote:
Originally Posted by MB62
In general though, if BDO think there's any danger they won't get paid, the liquidiser will be out faster than you can say, "where did I put that valuation report for Tiny?" :wink:
:agree: :top marksQuote:
Originally Posted by Bajillions
So the longer the CVA goes unconfirmed/signed and control handed over to FOH, the less money the Liths get from the £2.5m?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bajillions
With it all being delayed again until the first quarter of next year, and then the time it takes for all the official paperwork and agreement, the Liths could really end up getting NOWT and FOH hand over their cash to BDO.
No, not really. Only the pre-CVA fees will be taken from the offer to buy the club and that's all locked in now. BDO will pay themselves from whatever Hearts have earned since the CVA was agreed.Quote:
Originally Posted by MB62
Its hard to remember now but I thought it was other way round. ie, any "profit" made by Yams while in admin, up to the time a CVA is agreed would be set off against BDO fees. The balance would come off the £2.5m offer. I have to say this struck me as a crazy deal for Ukio. Can anyone remember the post# with the CVA details on it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bajillions
Thanks for that. So BDO will get nowt from the Yams then :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Bajillions
Absolutely could not agree with this more. Skacel used every opportunity to wind up hibs fans and suck up to the hearts support by not constantly claiming his love for them but for constantly claiming his hatred for us. I've literally never seen a player so utterly obsessed with hibernian. Every photo he is giving it the 5-1 gesture or the loser gesture. Even with his 51 dundee utd jersey stunt just showed this pathetic loosers obsession with us. If I was a dundee utd fan I would have been extremely annoyed with this, as even though he was supposed to be a utd player he was still pulling out all the tops to suck up to the maroon mutants. Highly cringeworthy pathetic individual and it's hilarious how the hearts fans idolise this guy as some huge hearts hero, when as you say, he simply hates hibs more than he loves hearts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bajillions
When hearts supporters bring out the 5-1 comfort blanket it just shows they are hurting as this is the only thing left they have to hide behind and cling onto. It doesn't hurt me anymore. We have moved on from that day and got stronger as a club where as they have plummeted down the opposite way. Killled us as a club aye? hahaha aye ****ing right! The fans have not walked away in mass and deserted the club as hearts fans claimed would be the reaction after the final.
I actually think Skacel only loves, or cares about Skacel. If anyone saw his grinning face in the stand, during Hearts getting grubbed 0-7, they'd be forgiven for thinking Rudi wasn't interested in the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bajillions
I don't think he's the sharpest tool in the box, and is only interested in being the centre of attention. Any man with dignity would have been more humble about his role in the 5-1. Rudi was happy to be the centre of a love in.
I REALLY hope they break the last of their piggy banks to get him back.
True point, loves himself and love how the maroon tramps scrabble at his feet bowing down to him like a god.Quote:
Originally Posted by Filled Rolls
the reaction of a huge section of Hibs fans at the last cup final, for the last 10 minutes in full voice, says a lot for me. those fans were determined to tell anyone, we were by no means about to desert our club in thousands, as some of our neighbours once thought.
Can we get that photo on here ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Filled Rolls
His career is over IMO. He's been unemployed since the end of last season. Hearts fans will tell you it's because he's waiting to rejoin them but every one knows it's because he can't get a contract anywhere else, certainly not paying what Hearts were paying him. Sitting in the stands laughing when they are getting pumped and pulling pints behind bars are about his level now. Maybe he can get a job as a barman?Quote:
Originally Posted by Filled Rolls
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Originally Posted by hibees 7062
It was a cut away in the TV coverage, round about the sixth goal, if anybody can bear to look for it. Massive smile on his coupon, I think he was saying to the Yam Fud next to him, "jeez, I could walk into this team".
Or sell pies for them wi number 51 on his hat , imagine the queue. :loser: Wi the right hand :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Bajillions
He never has and never will make it at anywhere else, hearts fans love to give it the big un about how he's some superstar but the reality is that he's pish. We made him look a hell of a lot better than he was cause we were pish ourselves when he played for them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bajillions
Better than Griffith they claimed? hahahahahahaha oh please don't make me laugh! He couldn't lace sparkys boots! And as for the absolutely hilarious claims that hes better than Sauzee and Latapy were, well does that not just sum up the level of utter delusion that lot have!
Was he not laughing mate ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Filled Rolls
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQ5On...yer_detailpage
10.41 Minutes in , some hero :fibber:
Should that happen, the majority of yams wouldn't be saying it was all worth it - and so I'd be happy that they'd been punished enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by lapsedhibee
For now, most yams are saying it was all worth it - so they haven't been punished enough.
Ah Skacel - loves the Muppets so much he signed for Dundee United !!. And when he does come back to help them in their ever-so-desperate 'Hour of need' - it's on condition they pay for his flights, accommodation, expenses etc. Out of all their numerous mercenaries, HE epitomises everything about their 30+ year love-in with 'Finance Football - Rotten to the core !!
I find it hard to get worked up about Rudi Skacel, I really do. Couldn't care less what his opinion is about anything.
And this thread is drifting off course now... a bit like the Hearts rescue plan.
Do anyone think the EEN realise their own complicity in all this? I mean, getting Yams to understand the situation is hard enough, but it's made harder when the local newspaper appoints itself as cheerleader for whoever is in charge at the time and fails to ask any hard questions.
Now they are championing FoH and printing Stuart Bathgate's fantasy land nonsense, there is a complacency setting in where the fans assume all will be ok.
The pain hasn't really started yet... relegation will bring a whole new world of misery.Quote:
Originally Posted by clerriehibs
Aye, he's a looker...
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/13/bynyjaty.jpg
I give you, from today's EEN comments section:Quote:
Originally Posted by jacomoseven
http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.co...cted-1-3226882
RUDOLF 5 1
12:40 AM on 12/12/2013
I dont usually reply to fantasists but yeah i have to put you straight.
Hearts will be debt free WHEN FOH take over after THEY pay the footballing debts..you know very little but talk alot you truely are a numpty
keep wishing for worst case scenario
as i have said countless times i pity your lot.
HHGH
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It is common to use the reverse loser sign so that it looks correct in the rear view mirror of the car which beat his Skoda in a race from the lights.Quote:
Originally Posted by Geo_1875
Attachment 11504Quote:
Originally Posted by Dibben
The comments on the EEN site must be from schoolkids.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibby rae
Pleasecanwewindtheclockback is populated by schoolkids, bedroom-dwelling nerds and Hibbys in disguise. I get all that.
What I don't understand is where the decent Jambos have gone? I mean, maroon or not, most of them grew up in this cultured city and so it's possible there are at least a few left who hold down decent jobs and are socially capable. Are they not embarrassed by the Yammish way their fellow fans behave? Do they not express concerns about the very real jeopardy their club is in?
BDO fees as I understood them to be.
Fees upto the CVA were to be taken from the operating profits during the administration, the balance being met from the CVA payment.
Fees after the CVA to be covered as current running costs.
That was my understanding of the situation. That quite a drain on their finances month to month. These guys are not cheap.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack
He looks absolutely gutted at that score line doesn't he? Lord of the RoastersQuote:
Originally Posted by Dibben
from the camera at that point, it looked like he asked how long to go and was laughing at how many it could be, that's what it seemed anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bajillions
Still, let them cream themselves over someone that is part of the reason they are going kaboom.
I think he will roll up as manager in 3-4 years. If they get through this to the extent that FoH have their nine man board/cardigan wearing commitee it will be the topic of discussion after every loss.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bajillions
At a price, its what drives him.
Also, how ridiculous is Liam Mcleods commentary when he's talking about him? Sounds like he's having a wee tug the whole time he's on screen
My mates who are Yams hate it, they've said themselves that it's just full of morons. They also appreciate the **** they're in as they aren't as cocky as they used to be!Quote:
Originally Posted by jacomoseven
FtfyQuote:
Originally Posted by Bajillions
Getting back on topic......
A smaller area of land, with planning permission for 160 houses, is up for sale at £40m.................
http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.co...sale-1-3230392
And Hearts want Lithuania to accept £2.5m.
:ostrich:
That works out at £250k per house.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikey
New builds near me have been going for nearly 3 times that!
A tidy, and easy, profit to be made. :agree:
THAT is a very creepy, evil photo - it's like he's just decided on whatever young boy/girl he's been offered !!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dibben
You have to ask if the Lithuania Administrators have even bothered to check if the laughable offer from FOH is indeed the best deal they can get, or if somebody in Edinburgh is lying their ass off to them. :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikey
Can someone send this to Bryan Jackson and the Lithuanian Administrators please ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikey
http://i.imgur.com/ructFND.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Deansy
Dear Bryan,Quote:
Originally Posted by Weststandwanab
Did you know you can secure around £40m for the creditors you're supposed to be representing? Probably more as the piece of land you have is 25% bigger than shrubhill.................
Have they not already accepted it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikey
where's the poster known as sydney nowadays :confused: thought he was sending 45432190712 letters to the lithuanian authorities
Can we send that to someone in Lith Mickey ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikey
Same thing :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by kdhibees1
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Originally Posted by GRANTON_HIBS
This is exactly what i was thinking , telling them it wont be possible to build on it etc
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Originally Posted by Weststandwanab
Jackson knows, hence the reason the valuation was suppressed in the report for the CVA vote. For whatever reason (I assume because it won't affect his bottom line), he's concentrating too much on saving the football club as opposed to best deal for the creditors.
Great, thank you. Do you know if BJ reads your postsQuote:
Originally Posted by Mikey
I think the PC brigade chased him which is a shame as he was moderately entertaining at times.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
He'll want future business. Getting Hearts out of Admin and into the hands of the fans is a great advertisement.Quote:
Originally Posted by clerriehibs
Well?Quote:
Originally Posted by I'm_cabbaged
The £ 40 million mentioned in the EEN article will be the overall value of the development once the houses are constructed. Land only I would guess between £ 5 - 6 million. I might give DTZ a call tomorrow and see if I can get an idea on what they expect to achieve from the sale.
Liths are getting ripped off AGAIN. Prob is Jackson has to live in the Uk after this deal is done and the Yams know where he lives :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by clerriehibs
I hate to break it to you, but it's standard practice in any insolvency (not just this one) to hold back asset valuations when bids are invited from interested parties. It's up to them to make an offer, not for the IP to offer the sale. Asset valuations are disclosed to purchasers only once confidentiality agreements are in place.Quote:
Originally Posted by clerriehibs
They no deid yet?
Might be standard practice, doesn't make it good practiceQuote:
Originally Posted by SmashinGlass
Read the details for the Shrubhill site on the DTZ web site.
Apart from the 160 houses there is over 12,000 sq. ft of retail space that the EEN does not mention.
Additionally, the site is being sold by Frasers Hamilton Shrubhill Ltd ( in administration ) not the Unite Union as per the EEN.
I think I had better check today is Thursday as I got that info from the paper. :greengrin
If they had any brains they would get the assets valued independently.Quote:
Originally Posted by SmashinGlass
Correct, Unite own the derelict building (selling it for student housing) which is a pretty small land take.Quote:
Originally Posted by greenginger
The vast majority of the land at Shrub Hill is the part being sold by DTZ.
It also includes listed buidings (the old tram sheds & the chimney) and its previous industrial use means decontamination work will be needed (so all in all, not dissimilar circumstances from Tynecastle).
Posters above are correct - it's a £40m project but the land would be c.10%-15% of that I would guess (unless a bidding war gets underway)
I know Hearts have a good track record in all sorts of wars, but even they should consider £2.5m for Tynecastle as one of their best smash and grab victories if the Liths accept that - it is worth a lot more for housing land
Hard to say as his mouth lives in the shadow of his noseQuote:
Originally Posted by hibees 7062
Aye he sure is. He looks (and is) like a complete and utter ****ing yam tosserQuote:
Originally Posted by Dibben
I like your logic, works for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by clerriehibs
:greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by I'm_cabbaged
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Originally Posted by hibs0666
I agree with both of these sentiments.Quote:
Originally Posted by Weststandwanab
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Originally Posted by Jonnyboy
His burd
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...16706961_9.jpg
omgQuote:
Originally Posted by hibees 7062
Is that not Ross Noble?Quote:
Originally Posted by hibees 7062
Is that real?!Quote:
Originally Posted by hibees 7062
:agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by HibbyAndy
:hilariousQuote:
Originally Posted by hibees 7062
Deary deary me.
How much would an independent valuation cost?
Imagine how he feels :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by HibbyAndy
...which is his primary duty.Quote:
Originally Posted by clerriehibs
If they are daft enough to accept a low offer without doing their own diligence, they deserve to get ripped off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Onion
Have you not previously said a balance has to be struck?Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
They have struck the balance, in that they have set out a plan to rescue the company as a going concern, whilst satisfying the creditor (singular).Quote:
Originally Posted by clerriehibs
The creditor accepted that plan, so if there is any "blame" to be apportioned here, it should be against them rather than the administrator.
In what way is hiding the true value of the assets of a company in admin acting in the interests of the creditor, regardless of whether that is 'normal' practice?Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
It's almost irrelevant whether the "true value" (whatever that is) is disclosed.Quote:
Originally Posted by clerriehibs
The creditor should be looking after its own interests, and establishing a value independently of the administrator. If they have, that will have driven their attitude to the CVA. If they haven't, and they have relied on what BDO have told them, then hell mend them.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder Beauty is only skin deep But beware when plastic Surgery goes wrong you canne go backQuote:
Originally Posted by HibbyAndy
Na The Golden Generation are too good to Break Up and they dinnae need the money as they are self sufficient till March .once they have fleeced the deluded yams yet again over x mass. Bet the staff who were made redundant are thinking am glad I got shot o these cheats . but they continue to get away with it Due Diligence seems to be a phrase the new governing body like to spout but appear to have no way of enforcing I it This whole saga that is going largely unreported except o hibs . Net is embarrassing Scottish football but there is a willingness to let cheats find ways to manipulate the situation and try and take the moral high ground which is obscene and wholly unjust. But then the whole Banking Collapse was the same and look how reluctant governments are to interfere in business matters . It's no wonder the Romanov s and Craig Whytes of this World just keep doing the same thing and think they are above Natural Justice Maybe Romanov has hooked up with Lord LucanQuote:
Originally Posted by HibbyAndy
It would seem from the latest news from the Lithuanian Courts that the Ukio Bankas creditors do not have a creditors committee any more.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Did the previous committee sanction the acceptance of the £ 2.5 million for the security, or did the Ukio admin. act without instruction in the CVA vote?
that is not real! cannae be. the eyes are far too close together, for a start!:greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by hibees 7062
At this moment, do remember.......it is only a Provisional acceptance:wink: the Provos have the upper hand :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by greenginger
I will always go with the auld family format( my wife's auld Auntie Aggie) for every Jock, there's a Jenny. :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by HibbyAndy
Good one!Quote:
Originally Posted by clerriehibs
:thumbsup:
For every Andy theres an Aggie :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by monktonharp
She could flick ducks out of a pond with that honk!Quote:
Originally Posted by hibees 7062
It's real because she has an iPad.Quote:
Originally Posted by HibbyAndy
Sorry Rudi.
Nae Zits wonder what her secret is If anyone Nose let me knowQuote:
Originally Posted by Puzzle
I'm all for seeing photos on here of girls with big hooters but we need to talk semantics first.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibees 7062
Don't think Semantic is her name:rolleyes: but with a nose like that who nose what her name is Amy suggestions ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hiberlin
The usual standard of the EEN !Quote:
Originally Posted by greenginger
That is a bit harsh................ on RossQuote:
Originally Posted by Stevie Reid
Buttons compared to what may be gained from exercise.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenLake
Ohhh now that is a good question.Quote:
Originally Posted by clerriehibs
Surely you mean hooter the singular !Quote:
Originally Posted by Hiberlin
Girls with big hooter? Sounds silly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Weststandwanab
Tell that to an Amazonian woman archer's face!Quote:
Originally Posted by Hiberlin