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Why are such stories are released without any sensible investigation? Rangers fans, Rangers as a club and indeed Fulham deserve better
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Why are such stories are released without any sensible investigation? Rangers fans, Rangers as a club and indeed Fulham deserve better
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I know they do, but one is stuck with MW and another seems to want him :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
The Tweet, if real , doesn't actually deny anything.
Sounds like he's not away then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Would have been funny but I can't say I'm overly bothered, imp cracks are already starting to appear in his team.
On a side note, anyone else find it a bit cringey he's using Twitter? It's the same when I hear about Craig Levein using it, not sure why but just think it's a bit embarrassing for him
Maybe they will make a couple of bids for Scott Allan to try and show him they mean business.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
I want him to stay because he looks and sounds like one of them.
You could have said that about their previous three targets to replace Symons! :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by hibs0666
I think Warburton would be mental to leave what is essentially a pretty cushy gig for the Fulham job. The English Championships is probably the hardest league in the world to be a manager.
Yes, a bit of a false alarm but, what the heck, it upsets the arrogance and over-confidence of the Weegie nutters.:greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by bingo70
London or Glasgow....I think the bright lights might just draw him down south....Quote:
Originally Posted by Future17
:agree: Being serious for a minute, the rangers job is probably the pinnacle of his career and he surely has to stay, if only to see who else they can get on the cheap from Wigan next transfer window.Quote:
Originally Posted by Future17
I'm no so sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Future17
Neil Lennon won a stack of trophies and qualified out a group stage of the CL including beating Barcelona. He was available for donkeys and only got Bolton.
Warburton will do well to win any major trophies and will get nowhere near the CL. To me, Fulham is the best he's likely to get.
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Originally Posted by Future17
He's already proved he can hack it in the Championship.
It will probably just leave the glorified bus driver who seems to be too good for holding up the subs boardQuote:
Originally Posted by Sergey
Is a side note the same as a side letter but smaller?Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo70
If so you could find yourself in a little bit of bother ;-)
Just glad the pondlife are getting some of their own medicine,they are always unsettling clubs by saying they are interested in their players whenever they are about to play them .
A month of turmoil please :greengrin
VC pushed the price for Warby out to 4/1 straight off the back of his tweet. Once again they've shortened the price to a 4 in 10 chance (6/4)
There's clearly mileage in this rumour and he's obviously the player that the books are avoiding.
During the 9IAR years and after Rangers told us they were Simply The Best, that they were the World's Most Successful Club.
Yet, what we now realise is Murray was not only addicted to debt but in order to gain an advantage over Celtic had to pay players an income that was free of tax. He tried two schemes, the first failed pretty quickly, the second, EBT scheme has taken longer to unravel.
There can be no EBT with any 'side-letter' that guarantees the tax free loan. If there is then tax is due. Game over. If there is a 'side-letter' that guarantees payment then this must be disclosed to the SFA. What a dilemma, you can't stay the right side of the tax scheme AND the game's governing body simultaneously...
But none of what has transpired would have been possible or achievable without the governing body of Scottish Football being complicit, aiding and abetting Rangers in different ways at different times and for different reasons to either; get into to Europe when they'd already agreed they owed HMRC for the Wee Tax Case (yet without access to European revenue they'd have gone bust earlier), continue with an EBT tax scheme that broke their own rules, or ultimately to be reborn, as Sevco.
So, for those that use words like 'bile' and 'spewing' and 'hatred' and 'blood-lust' I'd say this; they told us for years they were the People, that they were the Best, the World's Most Successful when, in fact, Murray and his placement at the SFA were cheating. Organised, explicit, wilful cheating.
Football is 11 v 11 on the day, on literally a level playing field - any attempts to rig the game, to allow one team to enjoy a specific advantage can never be allowed.
And, if you think we should somehow 'move on' without both cleansing the SFA and, more importantly, the proceeds of this organised, wilful deceit then you miss the point entirely.
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Originally Posted by Cropley10
:top marks SFA must be exposed in this shambles and the corridors rid of the incompetents who broke their own rules, to aid their mates
Eureka :not worth one for any old / new rangers apologists or sympathisers in Scottish football to have a good think about before they plead for closure or a line to be drawn - the answers to who did what to help, when and why really are still needed then the punishment can be designed to fit the actual crime, not just what we are allowed to know about it to date.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cropley10
The baker has spoken and all is well in hunland. However Tom English has become the villain of the peace by casting doubt on the situation on Twitter :
That tadger English reckons he's lying.
Mark WarburtonVerified account
@MarkWarburton9
Both bemused and frustrated by shockingly incorrect stories from certain media outlets. I am going nowhere and no club has approached me
Tom English @BBCTomEnglish 33m33 minutes ago
@DerekMillerTime @GordonWaddell @bbckennymac @MarkWarburton9 Curious
Derek Miller @DerekMillerTime 31m31 minutes ago
@BBCTomEnglish About what exactly?
Tom English @BBCTomEnglish 10m10 minutes ago
@DerekMillerTime Just curious. Given some of our information - odd
100% spot-on !!. Ever since all of this 'Hun/EBT/Side-letter' con was revealed, the only thing the SFA/SMSM have done is to fight furiously to see that NOTHING changes and that the 'Status Quo' of the OF Duopoly is preserved at all costs and returned to as soon as possible - this must be avoided at all costs !!.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cropley10
Our game is is in desparate need of purging and the opportunity is right now starting with the voiding of all/everything the Hun 'obtained' (not 'Won') during the time they were using EBT's. After that, the next step is the complete replacement of all in the SFA who have done nothing in this scandal except assist and prolong it - Reagan, Doncaster, Ogilvie for starters. If any of them are still in place when the dust starts to settle, then Scottish Football will have truly gained and learned SFA !!
I agree working and living in London is probably more attractive to him than staying in Glasgow. Apparently his family have stayed down south and will not be moving here any time soon, so that could obviously be a big factor in any decision he is asked to make.Quote:
Originally Posted by c31
I don't think Warburton and Lennon are comparable, as Lennon had not worked in any non-playing positions in English football before and did not have the reputation at various levels that Warburton has. In fact, Lennon's reputation in England counted against him when it came to getting a top gig.Quote:
Originally Posted by Winston Ingram
I'm not suggesting Warburton will be ever be offered anything better than the Fulham job; I just think it would be madness to walk away from a comparatively easy role for one which will be much harder and far less secure. In addition, financially, he probably wouldn't be offered that much more down there than he'll be offered to stay at Sevco.
Has he? Don't get me wrong, I thought he did a great job with Brentford, but their chairman didn't which is why his contract wasn't extended. And therein lies the rub. The English Championship is a league of intense pressure and, often, unrealistic expectations. The Mecca of the Premiership and the nature of the playoff system creates a situation where a manager is only really 4 or 5 bad results away from the sack at any time.Quote:
Originally Posted by ancient hibee
By my count, only nine of the 24 teams in that league have had their current manager for more than one season. Specifically, Fulham are not a model of managerial stability and there is no indication that their owner would give a new manager significant cash to spend in January.
There also must be a reason why three other managers have already said no.
Your post encapsulates not just what bothers me about The Rangers, but what bothers me about many things on this planet. Banksters, gangsters, puppet politicians, dictators and a whole line of horrible entities or individuals who cheat the possibilities of a decent and fair reality. They further their existence and domination using the threat of "Mutually Assured Destruction".Quote:
Originally Posted by Cropley10
The instructions given to leaders elected to the SFA or SPFL should be - "No surrender" to cheats. Clean out and kick out but never, ever cop out.
'No club has approached me' is modern day football speak for 'my agent is handling all negotiations on my behalf'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim44
Stuart Gray has romped to second favourite. I hadn't noticed his name before.
Maybe just a coincidence but the FF website discussion board is down. This often happens when there is abnormally high traffic. I wonder if something has been announced.
Just musing but is there not a possibility that Warbs is thinking, " just WTF have I got myself into here?
I'm managing a team where the last 3 people in charge have been spivs or crooks & the current boss is a convicted criminal. They keep saying I'll get money but nothing ever happens. I can't go out in Glasgow because half the population call me an Orange b-----d & I don't understand a thing that the other half are saying. I went up to Aberdeen the other week to check out this battle site at Aboyne & there was nuffink there even though it's all our fans sing & talk about! Magic hat on & back darn sarf rapid for me I think! "
Seriously, the culture shock dealing with these demented people but must be horrific for a supposedly intelligent man.
A darn sarf rag's take on it,
http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/foot...a3128956.html?
Maybe Warby just spun it a bit to get a wage rise and a war chest.
Respectfully, Warbs is an intelligent individual and must, surely, now realise that 1) King is proving to be a glib and shameless liar 2) they’re burning what little money they don’t have on lawyers, not players 3) the Three Bears are not, in the grand scheme of things, wealthy people, who certainly can’t afford to bankroll Rangers, being in to the tune of Ł10m already with a considerable amount in soft loans 4) they make a loss every month 5) the stadium is in poor shape 6) if/when they get promoted there’s no pot of gold available and they will struggle to compete 7) we’re heading into the worst of the weather and the third round of ties against the “diddy teams” 8) the squad is thin and injuries or approaches for Tavernier and/or Waghorn must be a worry…
Respectfully I hope he stays, but I’d be delighted if he heads back down to London. Happy Days
Not sure it was a deliberate ploy but that's certainly how it could work out for him...Quote:
Originally Posted by greenginger
Fulham are a bit of a basket case - 7 managers in 3 years - and he knows he's at least 3rd choice.
From the strength of his tweet, I think he'll "respectfully" turn down the approach and we can all move on to the next act in the Rangers circus.
Managers being away from their families is hardly unusual. There are many examples, including our own staff and big Yogi.
Warburton is obviously going to appear uninterested to increase the deal he gets offered by Fulham.
He's gone and hopefully so will some of the players he brought in.
And yet all the talk in the media at the time was how to make the Old Firm more competitive in Europe - as if we were all rooting for Murray in his attempt to buy the European Cup.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cropley10
And of course this nonsense still continues. The Rangers will get back to the SPL and then get in to Europe. The advantage that the OF had in terms of income from large stadiums, well attended has gone. The money sloshing around football these days means that the advantage of being big, or bigger has now gone, much smaller clubs are more wealthy than they have ever been.Quote:
Originally Posted by crabis
And that's in the directors box.Quote:
Originally Posted by brog
What did the good folks of Aboyne do to be associated with the muppets? Nothing there?............ Aboyne (Scots: Abyne, Scottish Gaelic: Abčidh) is a village on the edge of the Highlands in Aberdeenshire, Scotland, on the River Dee, approximately 30 miles (48 km) west of Aberdeen. It has a rugby club, which plays on The Green and also has a swimming pool, a golf course with 18 holes, all-weather tennis courts, and a bowling green. Aboyne Castle and the Loch of Aboyne are nearby.Quote:
Originally Posted by brog
Aboyne has many businesses, including a supermarket (Co-op),[6] two banks, several hairdressers, a butcher, a newsagent, an Indian restaurant and a post office. Originally, there was a railway station in the village, but it was closed on 18 June 1966. The station now contains some shops and the tunnel running under the village is now home to a firearms club. The market-day in Aboyne was known as Fčill Mhěcheil (Scottish Gaelic for "Michael's Fair").
I'm sure Warburton would find this charming village a great retreat from the circus he presently finds himself in.:greengrin
Typical response by any manager who wants to keep playing both ends. He's going to talk up his every important role at The Rangers, showing loyalty, ambition and making sure he doesn't upset the locals. Not a sweetie bag in sight !Quote:
Originally Posted by greenginger
At the same time, he hasn't said outright that he has no interest in the Fulham job - which he could easily do and put the whole thing to bed. Why not ? For 2 reasons, 1. he might actually be interested in what they have to say and 2. it keep The Rangers Board honest when it comes to him asking for more money.
He has to say he's not been approached by Fulham as they'd have to ask The Rangers Board for permission first.
Agree, most huns that I know haven't a Scooby about the actual history they are spouting about. Every good hun knows it's the battle of boinnng, not Aboyne.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim44
He's not been approached by Fulham, because Fulham can negotiate via his agent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Onion
Warburton just needs to submit a wish list of players that he knows will be rejected by Der Hun as too expensive - he can then ask to speak to Fulham because Sevco won't back him in the market. Job done.
From that article...Quote:
Originally Posted by greenginger
"Alan Curbishley is expected to take charge of Fulham at MK Dons tomorrow."
Game over?
Curbishley's already there. If he was going to get the gig you would think it would already have happened.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Sarf
Curbishley 10/1 to 12/1 on Oddschecker.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Sarf
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Originally Posted by greenginger
I can't see any link to Curbishley in that article.:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Sarf
http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/foot...-a3119581.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by Jim44
Sorry!
The article's two weeks old and I think Curbishley would have just been 'caretaking' which is being done by Peter Grant now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Sarf
http://www.oddschecker.com/football/...manent-manager
Warby no longer bookies favourite ! Boooo !
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Originally Posted by Jim44
Sorry again.
Don't apologise, keeps our slender hopes of Warburton doing the dirty on them alive. :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Dan Sarf
Stuart Gray now favourite. Fun while it lasted, tho'. The muppets can get a night's sleep tonight.:wink:
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Originally Posted by Jim44
Sorry.
Depends which bookie you use.Quote:
Originally Posted by greenginger
Pedant! :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by StevieC
Folks should be trolling him with #handitin
From the BBC:
Former Rangers administrators lose appeal over court case delayPosted at 17:54
TWO men accused of alleged fraud involving Rangers Football Club have failed to overturn a decision which allowed prosecutors more time to bring the case to court.
Lawyers acting for David Whitehouse, 50, and Paul Clark, 51, argued that Sheriff Sean Murphy acted incorrectly earlier this year.
The sheriff, who sits at Glasgow Sheriff Court, gave the Crown three extra months to bring allegations to court last September.
Appeal judges Lord Carloway, Lord Bracadale and Lord Malcolm refused the appeal and ruled the sheriff acted correctly.
Prosecutors allege that the two men, who worked for Rangers administrators Duff and Phelps, broke the law during their involvement with the Glasgow side.
They are accused along with former Rangers owner Craig Whyte, 44, and ex-chief executive Charles Green, 62, as well as former club officials David Grier, 50, and Gary Withey, 51.
The six men are expected to stand trial in the coming weeks.
JohnJames take on the Warby to Fulham story.
https://johnjamessite.wordpress.com/
Playing for maximum compensation .
I'd like him to be on the right tracks here but I suspect he is miles off the mark. Based on his comments over the past 48 hours and his refutal of the rumours on Reporting Scotland, I don't see Warburton going anywhere soon. If he is stringing folk along, he's giving an Oscar winning performance but if he makes a U turn and heads south, his chances of getting over the Kingston Bridge without getting strung up from it are negligible.Quote:
Originally Posted by greenginger
Why would he need to manufacture such a situation? Sevco are either prepared to let him leave or they're not. Him submitting an unrealistic player wishlist wouldn't change a thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by jacomoseven
I hope he gets the wage rise. Less dosh to spend on players
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If he wants out, he'll want to go with his head held high and a minimum of death threats from the hordes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Future17
Likewise, it's possible that Rangers can be persuaded to release him in return for a tidy lump sum up front. But will have to dress it up as something else to avoid the hordes turning on them.
Reading also looking for a new gaffer now...
Gordon Parks, an ex footballer who's more clued up than most journos , has broken ranks & is reporting pretty much the same in today's DR. The column is headed " Warbs' non-denial denial's nonsense, he's open to offers!" Even Keith Jackson has a pop! The cracks are finally showing!Quote:
Originally Posted by greenginger
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12...494781c38a.jpg
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http://soccer.nbcsports.com/2015/12/...igible-player/
How things work in less corrupt countries.
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You don't have to look abroad for a recent relevant case. In the Scottish Juniors East Region last season Dundee club Downfield won the North division 3. It was found that they hadn't correctly reinstated a former SPFL player and 15 points were deducted even though it was an innocent administrative mistake, with no attempt to deceive anyone. This cost them not only their title, but the promotion awarded for second place. Makes you think eh?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
I love that. Strict rule, strict punishment even if it is an honest mistake.Quote:
Originally Posted by ballengeich
Acts as a proper deterrent in case anyone thinks they can pull a fast one.
Although with no Real Madrid I guess that spells armageddon for the Copa Del Rey?
He and his chairman fell out because the chairman wanted player recruitment to take place like the "moneyball" system -that is based on statistics.Warburton didn't agree.His good reputation there is based on most football folk thinking he achieved miracles despite having a numpty for a chairman.Quote:
Originally Posted by Future17
http://www.oddschecker.com/football/...manent-managerQuote:
Originally Posted by WeeRussell
Warby at 33/1 for Reading, :greengrin
Mind you, so is Stubbs !
I quite like the irreverent take on things from this blog https://theclumpany.wordpress.com/20...raught-scenes/Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
That's a fun snippet on a Friday afternoon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
I think Ozy should follow this example :)
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects...ng/description
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Haha, he's already passed his funding target.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
I think when someone decides to crowd fund a judicial review of the SFA's role in this, they will collect enough money over a weekend.
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Maybe its a premiership manager job Warby has been waiting on.
http://www.oddschecker.com/football/...manent-manager
10/11 on favourite for the next Swansea manager and there's not even a vacancy. :confused:
Possibly more legal action :)
http://m.heraldscotland.com/news/141...an/?ref=twtrec
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What happened there ^?
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https://johnjamessite.wordpress.com/.../vote-rigging/
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Phil Mac is suggesting in his new blog that MA may move into competition with Parks in the transportation business. Mischief making by Phil Mac? Or a shot across the bows from MA but delivered by Phil?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
http://www.philmacgiollabhain.ie/eme...evco-wreckage/
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This is getting silly now. But anything that upsets the muppets is fine with me........ :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by greenginger
Bus wars.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoboHarry
Now we're into Sopranos territory.
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Could get serious with one (or more) of the buses getting torched in a garage. :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Is Ashley not friendly with Tony and Big Pussy from Greenock way?Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Would you call either of the Easdales a big pussy???Quote:
Originally Posted by Killiehibbie
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I think he just did :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Phil Mac has a new blog....
http://www.philmacgiollabhain.ie/an-...l-rangers-man/
IT says a Fissure has appeared .Looks like the pressure is Piling up against the new Board .Quote:
Originally Posted by HoboHarry
If I wanted to go swimming with the fishes I might.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Wonder if there will be a managerial vacancy at Newcastle after today?Quote:
Originally Posted by greenginger
If Ashley wants to bring vengeance, that would certainly do it.
Yup, can see that happening in the next few weeks. Guaranteed he'd take the Newcastle job, Ashley would pay him whatever he wanted just to spite Rangers :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by jacomoseven
Got any more crap predictions?Quote:
Originally Posted by jacomoseven
Harsh given it wasn't a prediction it was a question.Quote:
Originally Posted by jgl07
Give that man a brolly 😁Quote:
Originally Posted by jacomoseven
As soon as they get rid of w### as sponsors I'll start to support them again !
Warbs now being linked with the Swansea job.
:faf:
Keep up silverhibee. That's old news. He was 10/11 favourite this morning but he's drifted out to 4/1.Quote:
Originally Posted by silverhibee
The Herald have advised that The Rangers are going to buy the Accrington Stanley Two for Ł500,000. Shurely the beginning of King's 30 million
pouring through the blue door? For it must be true, naw?
The Meedja make me pig sick & I hope they pay some kind of price for their fawning PR job on behalf of them.
Enjoyable as yesterday's game was, I can tell you that nothing has changed at NUFC and never will with Ashley at the helm.Quote:
Originally Posted by jgl07
Watch us lose four of the next six. Everything about McClaren screams that he's well out of his depth. The board is laughable.
What is pertinent to this thread in terms of this comment is - as it has been for some time now - that it is hugely personal between Mike Ashley and King and his cohorts. The latter are in severe trouble and it does not matter how much it costs MA (King is basically skint), he will have his way.
Get the popcorn.
It's hard Jim :greengrin just waiting for him to be linked with the Chelsea job. :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Jim44
:aok:Quote:
Originally Posted by Col2
Sounds good to me .... Could be an epic 😜Quote:
Originally Posted by magpie1892
Very enjoyable, but totally unforeseen. Couldn't believe how flat it seemed pre-match. From Central Station to Gallowgate it barely seemed like there was a match on.Quote:
Originally Posted by magpie1892
Careful what you wish for though, we could end up with another Freddy Shepherd!
Rather Shepherd than Ashley. Ashley's made the club... not a club.Quote:
Originally Posted by StevieC
Newcastle were close to bankruptcy under Shepherd. You could be in the same position as Leeds now.Quote:
Originally Posted by magpie1892
I accept Ashley has made a lot of mistakes, but the fans have made things harder. The 'Pardew Out' campaign wasn't their finest hour.
Stuart Gray appointed senior coach at Fulham whilst they still look for a new Head Coach.
Has he ever baked with the breadman before?