And there was also the outrage of her boyfriend trying to use the lovely Nessie as an insult. Just what is wrong with these people?
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And there was also the outrage of her boyfriend trying to use the lovely Nessie as an insult. Just what is wrong with these people?
Quite possibly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kato
Woah, calm down love! Great mashup here.
https://twitter.com/rexchapman/statu...232650241?s=21
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By “a few too many years” do you mean just before she went on stage?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kato
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Could be. Look at the holes it makes in people's septums. It does similar to the brain. Too long a "career" with that stuff makes people more and more selfish.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bristolhibby
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The 80s just called for you. They want their lingo back.Quote:
Originally Posted by HFC_NYC
https://twitter.com/crimethinc/statu...744155649?s=19
The boy, the 17 year old boy who murdered 2 people in wisconsin the other night is wanted by some Republicans as POTUS.
Yep, full on MAGA man: https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article...se-trump-rallyQuote:
Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
Well, he has been arrested and may have to serve jail time. Doubt he will get out intact he'll not last 5 mins the stupid prick
And that’s just for his footwear alone!Quote:
Originally Posted by wpj
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/08/27/us/kenosha-wisconsin-shooting-suspect/index.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by wpj
You couldn't make it up.
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Originally Posted by DaveF
Because that's apparently what some people want to hear.
The guy shouted spy-gate.
(Keep in mind that I can't stand Trump)
Why would anyone "want to" hear that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
‘Pure derangement’.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...lies-trump-rnc
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Originally Posted by Future17
Because they've been told he said it and already hate Trump so much they'll believe anything.
(again, for the avoidance of doubt, not a Trump supporter)
I think that's harsh. I'm also not a Trump supporter but, if the guy was saying "monkey", I wouldn't blame Trump for that anymore that I would blame Hibs for some of the stuff I hear at Easter Road.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
For balance, the other day all I could hear was "monkey". I've listened again just now and all I can hear is "spygate". I think someone has changed the audio! :greengrin
I hear both. If I think monkey I hear monkey, if I think spygate I hear spygate. So I guess you're right but it works both ways.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
Donald J Trump the greatest president in the history of all time.
https://youtu.be/2b4eP3_aDQM
This time in 2016
WI: Clinton +9.3
PA: Clinton +7.6
NC: Clinton +1.3
FL: Clinton +3.6
Mich: Clinton +8.6
OH: Clinton +3.2
This week:
WI: Biden +3.5
PA: Biden +4.7
NC: Trump +0.3
FL: Biden +3.7
MI: Biden +2.6
OH: Biden +2.3
Where are you getting those numbers? Are they individual polls?Quote:
Originally Posted by Colr
fivethirtyeight's state polling averages have:
Wisconsin - Biden +5.9
Penn - Biden +5.4
NC - Biden +1.5
Florida - Biden +5.2
Michigan - Biden +6.9
Ohio - Trump +0.7
Plus at this time in 2016 the FBI hadn't made the unprecedented intervention that Hillary couldn't recover from. Which is not to say something similar couldn't torpedo Joe, but it hasn't yet.
For someone who is such a big underdog you are not getting great odds for a Trump victory at the bookies.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens
Trump is trying to move the conversation from the economy and covid where he knows he'll lose, to law and order, culture wars etc that have served him well in the past.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibeedc
I think this is election hangs on who is able to control the narrative and what issues are focused on.
Trump shouldn't stand a chance but I'm increasingly worried in the last couple of weeks.
Unprecedented times, innit.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibeedc
Things going for Trump
- the electoral college is now quite slanted toward the Republicans. Biden needs a 2-3 % lead just to be level.
- up until Covid the economy was going fairly well
- Biden is pretty hopeless
- the culture war
Things going against Trump
- Covid
- he's an arse of unprecedented magnitude
- the culture war
I think the culture war aspect will lead to the race tightening as the "tribes" clump together but, in the end, I think Biden will win because he doesn't engender anything like the knee jerk negative response that Hillary or Trump himself do.
There is also potential for a black swan. I would be frankly astonished if Trump doesn't license a Covid vaccine the week before the election whether it works or not. :rolleyes:
Reporter asks if President Trump condemns the actions of Kyle Rittenhouse, the teen charged for killing two protesters in Kenosha, Wisconsin. McEnany: "The president is not going to weigh in on that". CBS.
ffs.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
That's incitement, utterly diabolical. Straight out of the 1933 playbook, cause chaos and claim to be the only person who can ensure law and order.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
Would it really be appropriate for Trump to make any comment on an ongoing criminal case?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
Nixon did that in 1969, and Charlie Manson almost walked free as a result.
Good point, but he could have made a general statement condemning people taking the law into their own hands.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
It’s really happening isn’t it? Some people seem to think racist and fascist are just terms of abuse, that you get to stamp your feet about if you’re called out for it because it’s rude and ‘crosses a line’. Instead of acknowledging that its a description of actual behaviour thats now actually ****ing commonplace, the inevitable consequence being authoritarian government and a police state.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
Sadly, he’s not got a great record for avoiding prejudicial ejaculations in the press...Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2020/aug/31/yusef-salaam-trump-would-have-had-me-hanging-from-a-tree-in-central-park
It certainly looks like we're sleepwalking into it. In Trump's case I don't think he set out to do it but there's people advising him that have gently nudged him in that direction and now he's too far to back out. He's now so terrified of what might happen to him after he has to give up the presidency, that he'll try and hang onto it as long as he can whatever the price.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
Having indicated that Trump would not weigh in, Trump went on to weigh inQuote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2020-53980128
You'd think given what we've witnessed for the last 4 years that Biden would be skooshing it in the polls.
The fact he isn't is worrying.
2 elections running the Democrats have had the wrong candidate and it may well cost them.
Yes, think it will be tight. I guess that 85% plus of voters are fixed in who they will vote for ..likely only a small amount will determine the result either way....Quote:
Originally Posted by BroxburnHibee
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To be fair, Biden *is* skooshing it in the polls by any normal measure. His current 7% average lead is roughly the margin Obama beat McCain by.Quote:
Originally Posted by BroxburnHibee
But that's fallen from 10% most of the year and people are getting jittery because of how much is at stake.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...t-2016-warning
Moore isn't everyone's cup of tea but he got it bang on the money in the last election. For anyone who hasn't see it his Netflix documentary is frightening.
https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1300...305736704?s=20Quote:
The President claims people in the dark shadows who control the streets are really controlling Biden. He goes on to talk about a plane full of people wearing black uniforms but then says he can’t reveal anymore because it’s under investigation
It’s a logical progression for him. There are literally millions of QAnon ‘followers’ according to Facebook, it makes sense to keep going with the nods and winks to a wider deep state conspiracy. You’re never going to disprove it, personally I can’t say it definitively ISNT true.Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
It’s quite brilliant in a very dark, dangerous and divisive way ...makes you wonder who is the architect behind this divide and rule strategy is ?Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
I predict more riots as Trump seems to feel that this is helping his cause And gives him ammunition to criticise Black Lives Matter and Tao into the psyche of those that see this not about injustice and Civil Rights , but about defending The Real AmericaQuote:
Originally Posted by BroxburnHibee
Also a lot of the Conspiracy theorist groups love him and see him as cleaning up the Swamp and speaking out against a Global Agenda
So he seems to be making. Come back
I can’t stand him personally but he isn’t just going to go quietly that’s fir sure
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Just watched it. The comparisons with the rise of the Nazis are as clear as day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jones28
Sadly I think the UK is heading in that direction too.
It worked in the 1930's, why not today?Quote:
Originally Posted by bigwheel
And in the brexit and 2016 US elections.... a modern equivalent of 1930s is happening for sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
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:agree: Its what happens when you have a strategy of demonisation, along with removing the traditional burden of proof. Trump knows he can repeat claims of far left puppets, anarchists and the Democratic Party being in league, men in black in planes in the shadows, but in the age of social media the burden of proof has now magically switched to being on the accused, not the accuser :dunno: You’ve seen this time and again in politics in recent years. Demonise and then make them disprove it. Fascism Playbook.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigwheel
"Fake news" is a nazi thing too - they called it "Lügenpresse" (lying press).Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
Yes, I’m sure it was a very similar environment in the 30s. I bet the burden of proof for the claim that Jews were a subhuman race controlling the world financial system wasn’t on the Nazis. The way news is distributed nowadays just makes it a more powerful tactic.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens
Fascism can only really flourish in a society that is already on a downward trend. If you can convince the majority that a minority are to blame for all their woes, then you're half way there. Problem is that once in power they need to be seen to be doing something to correct the imaginary wrongs, that's when things get messy.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
You also get a chance to control a lot of the narrative too when in power ..it can take a long time for people’s perceptions to change once they are convinced there’s a problem ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
https://morningconsult.com/2020/09/0...t-conventions/
Polls are pretty much unchanged since the conventions. Biden leads by about 8 points.
I think Michael Moore deliberately singled out a poll by a company known to favour Trump to try motivate democrats to campaign harder.
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:agree: This is where Trump is now having trouble. The social media that helped him get elected works both ways unless you can control it. Even the MSM has all but turned against him and it's influence is still relevant if somewhat a shadow of its previous self.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigwheel
“It’s under investigation” seems to be Trump’s latest go-to phrase, which allows him to make any wild accusations or statements whilst suggesting a measured fact-based response.
But he can't release his tax returns because they are under audit 🙄Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibs Class
This is what Trump's sycophants in Congress have been reduced to: unable to bring themselves to condemn a seventeen year old kid murdering two people in cold blood, for fear his electorate won't like it. What an incredible state of affairs.
https://youtu.be/7n5brpnxcyg
The 45th Amendment: the right to carry soup:
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Goring once proposed a wall round Germany to keep immigrants out.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens
Can’t recall who he said would pay for it.
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Originally Posted by easty
The need to ban tins of soup.
Clearly, Antifa and Biden (and possibly Marx) are behind all the Soup manufacturers.
Sorry but he never killed them in cold blood.. he was attacked and in fear of his life... not condoning his actions but it wasnt cold blood..... not hearing much about the trump supporter shot dead in the street at point blank range. Totally unarmed and simply because he was identified as a trump supporter . That's cold bloodQuote:
Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba
He travelled 30 miles to another state with an illegal assault rifle to be there? Self defence?[emoji23]Quote:
Originally Posted by EAZY-ME
Good chance Trump will try pardon him in January although I’m sure murder can be tried at state level so he may not be able to.
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What trump supporter was murdered because he was a trump supporter?Quote:
Originally Posted by EAZY-ME
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He was terrified for his lifeQuote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Just like they Rangers fans who were terrified to be locked outside Rugby Park so had to force themselves in
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Portland one or Milwaukee?Quote:
Originally Posted by EAZY-ME
Actually it doesn't really matter as you seem to be playing some daft 'well what about this' type game. People are dying and this divise idiot in charge is largely culpable is helping sow the seeds of resentment.
That part is now contested, his defence team are stating that he actually worked at a swimming pool in Kenosha so was there almost every day and his employers asked him to help protect things and that no gun actually ever crossed state linesQuote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
If he was asked by a swimming pool to protect things why was he roaming the streets around car dealerships? And where did the gun come from? and he was still under legal age to have a firearm on the streets. And he still murdered 2 and seriously injured a 3rd.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mon Dieu4
Was he a security guard?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mon Dieu4
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These are answers his team will have to provide, they are clearly going with the self defence approach to this oneQuote:
Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
Im not sticking up for him, he's clearly a wee ******** but just saying what the current state of play in the case is
Lifeguard strangely enough!Quote:
Originally Posted by Callum_62
[emoji23]Quote:
Originally Posted by Mon Dieu4
I'm an account manager, if my worked asked me to protect things.... Eh, nah.
Or was he tasked with protecting the protesters from drowning? [emoji848]
Guess he accomplished that [emoji106]
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Yep he clearly fancied himself as a bit of a action hero, from what I've read from both sides of the divide I wouldn't be surprised if he gets away with it as well which is absolutely mentalQuote:
Originally Posted by Callum_62
And he took his gun to work ? And left it there..or did he just borrow one ? ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mon Dieu4
Most of the profiles on him state him as a police supporting activist, white power supporter and , in recent times, physical attacker of teenage girls. It doesn’t look or sound like he had a great profile to do the right thing as a “protector” of people .
That said, Dave F’s recent post is the key point here. the whataboutery of different events isn’t helpful. the real issue is that Trump has presided over undermining respect and equality between races and communities and is inciting division and escalation of racial tensions .
He must have loved his leisure centre to get his guns out. Must have been a cut above Leith Water World.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mon Dieu4
They haven't released all that yet, all they said was he worked in town, had been asked to protect business by his employer and no gun crossed state lines, suppose the rest will come out in the washQuote:
Originally Posted by bigwheel
leith waterworld was a class apart but I still wouldn't have defended it :faf:Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
Straight out of the Trump playbook.Quote:
Originally Posted by EAZY-ME
Youd have been picking them off those hipster antifas like it was Stalingrad 1943, stop lying:greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Mon Dieu4
That’s not what happened in Portland though is it?Quote:
Originally Posted by EAZY-ME
A 200 strong convoy of trucks full of trump supporters rode into the city and attacked protesters with bear spray and paintballs while being escorted by the police.
The video of the shooting of your “unarmed man” clearly shows the victim and a friend approach a protestor, call him out and then attack him with bear spray before the protestor returns fire. Another video shows the cops kicking away the spray can from his body on the ground.
The whole thing is a horrific **** show but you Can’t play the self defence card for one case and not the other
I like the narrative that the guy that had the assault rifle was the one fearing for his life from someone throwing something at him (not that the person throwing something at a lunatic with an assault rifle would have feared for their life...)Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibs Class
Easy for you to say. You've probably never been threatened with a can of soup.Quote:
Originally Posted by matty_f
The Campbells are comingQuote:
Originally Posted by lapsedhibee
https://youtu.be/JbkzIPJFDE4
You've never met my wife.Quote:
Originally Posted by lapsedhibee
She threw a lettuce at me the other day, and that was just the tip of the iceberg...
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Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
It's even worse, it's actually this bunch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCZJufudz64
My wife's granny was an Argyll Campbell. Definitely don't want her chucking her soup at you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
https://twitter.com/politidope/statu...254446593?s=21
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Welcome to the soup party.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
I've already said my wife's granny was a Campbell, well, my wife was a Baxter. I knew I was in the soup as soon as I got married.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...be0d82fde2.jpg
Biden averages about an 8 point lead just now.
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That won't factor in Soupgate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
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The Black Campbells strike again!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/worl...ost_type=share
Think someone has mentioned this already. Looks like Trump is trying to get a vaccine out right before the election so he can be the knight in shining armor. An absolutely horrific gamble with public health for one person's gain.
Definitely a case of souped up protests!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
I'm actually quite scared it might work and win him the election. If the vaccine does work he's a hero, if it doesn't? Well the FDA or whoever approved it, nothing to do with Trump etc. And we know the Republicans won't oppose him.Quote:
Originally Posted by stokesmessiah
I know Biden is ahead in the polls but Trump is no ordinary candidate. All politicians resort to dirty tricks. I fear that even with all the stuff he's done, we've seen but a glimpse of what he's capable of.
And that terrifies me.
Who in Their right mind would take it zest to big a riskQuote:
Originally Posted by neil7908
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Trump committed a felony. I'm betting he'll get away with it.
https://twitter.com/kmillstx3/status...172270592?s=19
What's the latest on the mastermind of Trump's 2016 victory, Steve Bannon, who was arrested for embezzlement of funds donated for private funding of the Mexican border wall?
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...uckers/615997/
Americans killed in battle are losers.
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https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-avoided-the-military-draft-which-was-common-at-the-time-vietnam-war-2018-12?r=US&IR=TQuote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Real losers avoid getting killed by being a coward.
I just came on to post this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
That should be an unbelievable thing for the US President to say but with the bar set as low as it is now, it really isn't.
What he said about McCain years ago, in public, would have ended his political career in reasonable times.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
https://twitter.com/projectlincoln/s...386395136?s=21
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Which he's now denying that he said, even though the film of him saying it, and his tweets, are still there for all to see.Quote:
Originally Posted by lapsedhibee