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No I don't think anything at Tynecastle is cool at the moment. I think, if I was Stendhal, I'd be focussing on winning the next two games, as I'm more likely to get the sack for losing them than for failing to be nice to players going out the door.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barman Stanton
They've done nothing for them, he doesn't fancy them, do you think an hour discussing why is going to have them agreeing with him?
New manager been told to cut the cloth to get others in. Anybody he does not fancy goes. But should explain to players why. The ex manager telling people they are finished at the back door of a rented training facility is just totally bizarre and unprofessional. That has been Hearts for the last 15 years. Baffling but pleasing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barman Stanton
Under normal circumstances yes, but he was sacked from both roles in October https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50255905Quote:
Originally Posted by Cataplana
In my time following football, I can’t think of a similar situation. It’s utterly bizarre.
No, but I think pulling a player aside and explaining why he is not in his plans is just manners and would prefer Hibs are run that way (which I imagine we are). You dont and thats totally fine, lets leave it at that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cataplana
Thats how I see it as well. Could be a 5 minute conversation. Getting sacked at a back door by someone who wont know why is just pretty humiliating really. Baffling any non Hearts fans see it as fine to be honest.Quote:
Originally Posted by FilipinoHibs
I don't blame Stendhal for leaving sorting the mess to the people who created it.Quote:
Originally Posted by HFC93
There is another employee at the club whose job is to get players out of the door.
With the wages he's rumoured to be on the 'Big team' simply couldn't afford to bullet him !Quote:
Originally Posted by Barman Stanton
Give it time. It’s always someone else’s fault with them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jones28
Especially a younger player.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barman Stanton
They've been profiting from playing on a pitch smaller than a public park for many years. It perfectly suits their hoofball, 2nd ball, long throw, tactics. A proper size pitch with an excellent surface would have seen them found out years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenCastle
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Originally Posted by DickieDastardly
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The key words in that article from Budge are "Craig will not return to his previous director of football role and, that being so, will step down from the board."Quote:
Originally Posted by HFC93
As you say, bizarre. The implication was he was simply going to run down his contract with minimal involvement until the summer yet he seems to be playing an integral role in the club's future. You'd think this would require an explanation, but it just seems to be accepted that his sacking didn't really happen. As I've said earlier it wouldn't surprise me if Budge announces in the summer that he's staying on - and who knows, if Stendel gets punted before then we might even seem him back as manager!!
Stendel is not the first team coach, he is the manager. It is therefore his job to manage the players and explain tactics and if necessary tell them they are no longer required.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cataplana
Say what you like but a good manager will do the dirty work as well. Not doing it and sending a message to a player, especially a young one, that he is required at the back door to be given the news from someone else would earn you no respect.
The remaining players will note how he treats others.
It won't help the harmony within the club.
What else do they have to hang onto ? Their club is a basket case from top to bottom. Stendal is the only thing not party to their spectacular collapse, so he is the only one left to play the role of white knight. Their problems really begin if he turns out to be a dud. Like their songbook post 2016, they have no plan B. They would be left praying for some mysterious benefactor to bail them out again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim44
Said it before but Stendel is their Fenlon. I wanted Fenlon to succeed so badly after the bore fest that was Calderwood to the point I couldn't/refused to see his flaws. It's easy to like a guy that throws their arms around a lot on the sidelines
Fenlon far to nice to be compared to the Gorgie Messiah. I think he is more their Butcher to be honest. 1980s approach to man management, inability to win any games etc. Hoping for the same outcome as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Since452
Look at it from another perspective, if he is telling the club captain you're no longer required, other players will be bricking it and will be trying their hardest to make sure they're not next!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by PatHead
Could work, Maybees Aye Maybees Naw, but it will have sent a rocket up the a***s of some of their underachievers!!!!
As for having a word with them about no longer being required, he's not got 5 minutes to spare for each of them as they are in deep s**t and all their time will be better spent digging in the latrines!!!!
The rocket up the arse only works for players whose contract is close to run down and whose agent can't line them up a move.Quote:
Originally Posted by where'stheslope
If he really wanted to make a statement he'd make chocolate knees Naismith train with the reserves and insist he only wanted guys that trained more that twice a week and were fit playing for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by where'stheslope
Maybe in the past, but players are more powerful than they used to be and alienating senior players rarely ends well. I wouldn’t be surprised if Berra outstays Stendel at Hearts.Quote:
Originally Posted by where'stheslope
If he really wanted to make a statement he'd make chocolate knees Naismith train with the reserves and insist he only wanted guys that trained more that twice a week and were fit playing for him. Difference is he's on a 4 year dealQuote:
Originally Posted by where'stheslope
Think the point that a lot of folk are missing, especially Hearts fans, isnt that Stendal doesnt rate players and that they are free to leave.....its the way they have been treated and dealt with. Players leave clubs all the time, that happens, what you dont do, is send another membr of staff to tell them, make your captain train with the reserves or generally refuse to speak to players? Thats just really shabby treatement. Im sure if these players/coaches had been sat down by the manager and explained why they had no future then there would have been no issues. It appears he is causing issues by just being a ****.
I hope you are right, as it can only end badly for them if that's true.Quote:
Originally Posted by PatHead
Don't know why Keena is complaining. It could've been worse, he could have been launched out the laundry chute. I wonder who'll be next to be back doored.
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.c...-berra-1365261
Belated gratitude shown to Berra there. I suspect too late. If Berra’s shared his thoughts publicly, I’m sure he’s shared them with the players. A few of them will be asking themselves if the new guy has got it.
Stendel really does look like a boozer doesn’t he?
Would a German George Burley be called George Berlin?Quote:
Originally Posted by jacomo
Apparantly Levein, McPhee and Kirk getting binned tomorrow according to a jambo at my work. Probably pish tho.
Back doored!Quote:
Originally Posted by 660
Possible their Secret Santa has found another cheque at the bottom of the sack?Quote:
Originally Posted by 660
Thats going to be a pretty awkward conversation Levein will have to have with himself!Quote:
Originally Posted by 660
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Originally Posted by 660
Unlikely, given we are in the middle of the transfer window, Levein and McPhee have been tasked with reshaping the squad, and there is no one lined up to replace them.
Still though... magnificent Hyacinth Budget doesn’t like to do things the normal way.
Sounds painful 😳Quote:
Originally Posted by 007
Sounds like as long as you can avoid bumping into Levien while moving about the training centre you’ll survive the cull. Given they have only told 6 they can leave there must be a few of them hiding in cupboards.
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I wouldnt be surprised if Berra outstayed the next Hearts nanager, and Levein, before becoming Hearts manager.Quote:
Originally Posted by HFC93
Its got pretty nasty. Training with the reserves, fans turning on him etc. Wouldnt be surprised if he wants nothing to do with the club in the future.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibbyfraelibby
Is that no what levein’s been doing to budge?Quote:
Originally Posted by 007
And vice versa.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart93
I wonder if you realised just how funny that sentence would be to read when you typed it?😂😂😂😂Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Remember when Berra was a half decent player and was always a doubt before derby games and the like but would miraculously take to the field fully fit. Well it appears that despite binning him the PR department are still using the same tactic despite nobody ever falling for the oft repeated ruse only this time they think they need to do it to con lowly SPFL1 Airdrie and the best they can come up with is stellar defender Halkett.
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.c...irdrie-1365848
Seems he struggled with the fast pace and high intensityQuote:
Originally Posted by hibbyfraelibby
Aw hey now, I'm having my lunch............Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart93
And who is going to bin them cause Budge or Stendel isn't going to do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by 660
Berra.Quote:
Originally Posted by dchibs
They are to announce some youngster as a signing before Saturday apparently, no idea who yet though.Quote:
Originally Posted by 660
It's like the most complicated and most boring game of musical chairs ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by dchibs
Stendel's a gutless snake!
How can anyone have respect for anyone like that is beyond belief.
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Originally Posted by Sioux
He looks like a jakey and he can’t look players in the eye when he bins them... don’t worry though, it’s everyone else who is unprofessional.
Most entertaining rather than most boring surely?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kato
It would be hilarious if another CH got injured and Berra was recalled into the starting line up :faf:
AND knock them out the cup with a classic Berra OGQuote:
Originally Posted by gaz1875
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They would play 3 at the back and play the next Baresi at CHQuote:
Originally Posted by gaz1875
Thankfully Stendel has cleared this whole matter up by stating the following:Quote:
Originally Posted by jacomo
“But we talked about the situation and we tried to find a good way for him and for us and especially for this club and, hopefully, we will find the best way.”
Thanks Daniel, that’s crystal clear now [emoji23]
Don’t know if already we said (I could r be bothers looking), but does anyone else think that clip of Hearts training has been sped up? Not hugely, just enough to make it look slick. There’s a wee bit where one of the mutants throws something like a bib down and it falls way too fast.
In fact, I guarantee they’ve done it. It’s all part of the gegenpressing fear factor to make us wee teams pure dead scared of how fast they might run now...
Hilarious how Hertz publicise who they are going after and fail to get so often.
Totally designed to try. And appear their hubris and demanding fans.
Great entertainment always but even better this window with them stranded at the bottom and desperately trying to convince themselves Danny is the boy any of our pals from the PBS looking in .... GIRFUY
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Jesus, I thought you were talking pish but I think you might actually be correct watching it again...Quote:
Originally Posted by leithsansiro
Nah, just heavily sweat-soaked from the incredible intensity of the session.Quote:
Originally Posted by leithsansiro
You could be on to something there. That first pass looks like a Jorg Albertz free kickQuote:
Originally Posted by leithsansiro
They've been watching six million dollar man episodes. All part of this gegenpress technique that us hobos will never comprehend.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1van Sprou7e
And it's only available on betamax.
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Reports in the papers this morning AC Milan are interested in that Hickey from Hearts.
I want to know who that boys agent is, whenever I’ve seen him he’s looked alright but nothing special. He was really poor against us at Tynecastle and he should have cost them a goal when he was caught dithering on the ball.
He was lucky not to give away a goal but had a couple of mazy runs which impressed me I've got to admit. Only 17 but looks a player. Sure Celtic are due a sizable sell on if he does goQuote:
Originally Posted by bingo70
His dad apparently, who is a massive Celtic fan. I wouldn’t say he was really poor against us tbh, that obvious error aside I thought he played really well first half and gave Slivka a torrid time down our right side. He had a quiet 2nd half but for 17 years old the boy has some serious talent. Hopefully he sees out his contract with them in the Championship and leaves for nowt.Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo70
Fair enough, funny how people see things differently.Quote:
Originally Posted by CapitalGreen
I don’t remember any of the Hearts team playing well in that first half and I certainly don’t remember anybody having a torrid time of it.
He clearly must have something about him to be linked with the clubs he is but I’m just not sure I’ve ever seen it. I don’t see a lot of Hearts tbf though
I actually thought he was their best player. I know I know. He was the only one who showed any willingness to push forward but was caught out which could have resulted in another goal for us. For what its worth I think he has potentialQuote:
Originally Posted by bingo70
Hickey to Milan?
Is his the same agent who linked Benji to Real Madrid?
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Any player who is able to hold their own in the top league at 17 has to have something about them.
I'm with you bingo. We gave up the wide areas 2nd half allowing the full backs space. It's why jambos thought Clare had a good game too. Although I can only remember him putting in one decent ball to Irving I think culminating in the Marciano double save.Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo70
They said the same about Cockring.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartie
He,s a stand out in a S### Hearts team, no denying the boy has talent but to be linked with AC Milan is pretty surprising.
And Walker, and Nicholson. Even had gunts telling me Callumn Morrison was the best thing since sliced bread (though this was last season when they won the league in October).Quote:
Originally Posted by Peevemor
I think they've learned from their mistakes with him. they used him too much and hyped him up too early and missed their chance to capitalise and sell him when his stock was the highest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peevemor
That's why they are hawking Hickey around everywhere at the minute, even travelling down to Manchester to try to sell him there. When have a club ever travelled en-masse to another club with the intention of trying to sell one of their best players. It's usually the buying club doing the chasing.
...but he's not though is he. He's in a team that's not holding its own that is bottom of the league and only gets game time at this level because the rest of the squad are dire.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartie
No-one from Man City, Inter Pizza or AC Plug is ever directly quoted as having an interest in him. His "agent" and the HMFC media team are soley responsible for the gossip as they are desperate to big him up for desperately needed liquidity.
He'll end up at a mid table Championship side down south. Hearts fell for the Sean Clare "He had EPL clubs interested in him" chat and he's utter mince.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibbyfraelibby
Someone will fall for the fake hype.
All this ‘interest’ coincides with the fact he’s told hearts he’s not signing a new deal and has 18 months on his contract.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibbyfraelibby
Hearts will sell Hickey for a coupon of million then have to give Celtic 30%. I think they'll be hoping to do it this window as they're clutching at straws trying to sign German 4th division teenagers and being blown out the water by Aberdeen
Is there a more gullible club than Hearts?Quote:
Originally Posted by Northernhibee
Dunno, but I made a fortune for selling them a stand with a beautiful castle view recently.Quote:
Originally Posted by FilipinoHibs
And I sold them a job lot of grass from a local farmer's field. Looked a lot better when the cows were crapping all over it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Northernhibee
Apparently a huge bust up last week in training..
I know farmers who’d be insulted by that.Quote:
Originally Posted by PatHead
It's kind of what Stendel needs to do though. That can go one of two ways - new players come in and the old malaise about the club has been broken up and they flourish, or they sink without trace.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzling Doidge
He doesn't have time to gradually get things working, it has to be all or nothing.
If he fails to get enough new bodies in the door he's going to have to go back to the guys he's trashing though. Which could be compulsive viewing. :aok:Quote:
Originally Posted by Northernhibee
I still think he’s a handy wee player.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peevemor
He’d improve that shower no end, put it that way.
He may have been a promising youngster but how many of them have we seen at Hibs and other clubs that can't sustain it or develop further?Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartie
Have not seen him for a while. Was he even getting his game for Dunfermline?
Indeed. But even by having the likes of Cochrane back as fresh faces who weren't in the dressing room for the first half of the season they may get a bit of a lift as they may not be under the same doom and gloom.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens
I truly hope that they get pumped in the cup though as the meltdown would be hilarious :greengrin
A couple of million?? Eh?Quote:
Originally Posted by Since452
Most players out on loan to lower league teams tend to train with their parent club during the week so would be expused to the "dressung room" mood and attitudes. Not sure if Hurtz do that but Cockring wasn't getting game time in Fife.Quote:
Originally Posted by Northernhibee
No, he wasn’t.Quote:
Originally Posted by PatHead
He’s had a dip in form, but it’s a shame for the lad for folk to be writing him off so soon.
It would be interesting to see how he might develop somewhere other than Tynecastle under someone other than Levein.
There was a derby at Easter Road just last season where he looked their most competent player and seemed to be one of the only players of theirs whose attitude seemed up to scratch on the day (they might have nicked a 1-1 draw).
Would laugh if love bite (we're not in the US) was sold just before the window closes leaving them no time to replace him.
He's played about a dozen games for the Pars.Quote:
Originally Posted by PatHead
A pal of mine is a ST holder and rated his performances as 'distinctly ordinary' and he looked just an average player who added nothing much to the team. They aren't too upset at losing him.
Or upset at all.
Apparently with Naismith who was barking instructions that was the opposite of what Herr Stendal wanted . I wouldn't read to much into it I think the players must be stressed to say the least .Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzling Doidge
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Don’t think that’ll phase them - they’ve got away with non-payment of players in the past and not many seemed to bat an eyelid (it’s just how the muppets roll) perhaps the lizard king will be saying : ok roll sleeves up get us away from relegation and you can go without disruption (and maybe a financial sweetener)Quote:
Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens
Without trying to sound patronising, I couldn’t understand how the KB muppets were taking their present and very real crisis on the chin without any attempt to get solace from a ‘laugh at Hibs’ comfort blanket. Lo and behold I came across a pathetic thread, ‘Daily Laugh’. For some unaccountable reason they have remembered that, when things aren’t going well at Tyne, a ‘moon’ in the direction of Easter Road is the panacea. I’m glad they are getting their mojo back but, to all the Jambo snoopers, here, c’mon guys, surely you can do better than that school kid drivel. :lolyam::brokenyam::jamboclow
I think what I love about some of the thread is they list everything they have done up to that day in May yet what happened since.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim44
Administration and bumping charities like the Lady Haig Poppy Fund and MACRAES BATTALION (that’s for those looking in)
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Heart of Midlothian Shareholders Association as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aldo
£5000
That should make them giggle.[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
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Originally Posted by Bostonhibby
22.5 million quid for a single tiered stand (unfinished) with restricted views!
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The Shareholders association one saw them go from "owing it to themselves" to stealing from their own.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aldo
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[emoji23] aye but 1-5 blah blahQuote:
Originally Posted by Bostonhibby
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The more they go on about the derby record, 5-1, 22 in a row then the more you know they are hurting about something.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim44
They are hurting that they let slip a 2 goal lead with 9 minutes to go against a championship Hibs team and then lost the replay against that same team.Quote:
Originally Posted by 007
O and then went onto lift the Scottish Cup!
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I wonder if part of the reason they're failing to attract their targets is because of the documentary crew filming the teams every move. Wouldn't surprise me if players agents advised them against going there. Imagine poor performances being immortalised on a documentary. Could be pretty damaging to their careers. What a shockingly bad idea.