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Aye but not everyone likes to start the morning off with 3 pints of lager and a tequila slammer.Quote:
Originally Posted by underscore
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Looking at the Barnsley forum their fans seem to want to drive the two players up to Tynecastle themselvesQuote:
Originally Posted by Oscar T Grouch
They'll be panicking now. Hes already told numerous other players they can go and the ones he hasnt are unimpressed with the way hes gone about it with some (Berra). They either get 2nd choice and potentially more 2nd rate trash in like they already have, or will need to turn back to the players hes already dismissed as pish.Quote:
Originally Posted by underscore
Hearts biggest game of the 2010's decade was in February 2016 and they failed to stop Hibs winning the Cup, thereby losing their song book and any feel good factorQuote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
He plays for a side in a Wolfsburg strip but in the Regionalla Nord (whatever that is?) League.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dmas
I would imagine Jamie-Lee Napier is probably closer to playing in Chelsea's 1st team than this boy is to Wolfsburg's
It also led to the sacking of their most competent manager of the last 5 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Springbank
To be fair they may argue the 2012 final was more important?Quote:
Originally Posted by Springbank
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In what way? Is it true he had them running up and down murder hill at Gullane beach? If so that seems pretty unusual in this day and age and would assume most sports scientists would advise against that. Was wondering when Levein got any medical expertise to be reviewing what may have gone wrong in that area. Again seems strange for any football person to be tasked with this.Quote:
Originally Posted by underscore
Crazy when you think abou it. Can't help but feel Hearts fans bring it on themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by FilipinoHibs
They wanted Neilson gone when they were 3rd.
They wanted Cathro gone and Levein reinstated.
They wanted Levein gone as they thought it was bad under him.
They've now ended up with Daniel Stendel who can't buy a win when they all wanted Neil Warnock and are all frantically backtracking and talking in German to each other etc. Strange lot
Yes he did. And he also played people who weren’t fit. Training full on when not fully warmed up. That’s how players get injured. First half hour of any session should be warm ups and dynamic stretching. Last half hour should be the same. Then man is from a different time. Double sessions. Nothing but running?? CluelessQuote:
Originally Posted by JimBHibees
What kind of requests were they Underscore? 👍🏻Quote:
Originally Posted by underscore
It’s incredible that their obsession with being the “big team” put them into this mess.Quote:
Originally Posted by FilipinoHibs
They get knocked out of the cup by us and hound out Robbie. First bad managerial decision sees Cathro appointed and they replace him with Levein who systematically tears them to shreds by signing dross and journeymen. They finish behind us in the league two years running so it’s time for a change again and they appoint a man who hasn’t won in nearly half a season.
All because of being knocked out of the cup in 2016.
3 players he wanted to sign. They had a German lad in for a trial too but thats not going anywhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by Not In The Know
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Originally Posted by Springbank
Springbank, are you for real? We would all swap 2016 for 2012, lets not kid ourselves. 2016 has gone a LONG way to erasing the pain, but a SC cup replay isn't close to being their biggest game of the 2010's.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Good, that will mean they are pretty bad players, Thiam has 6 months contract left so he would probably let go for nothing or can sign a pre-contract. Green on the other hand has 18 months left on his contract and would command a fee, whether their fans like him or not. I really hope they have to pay for both :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Since452
Could be promising.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oscar T Grouch
Stendel obviously has contacts everywhere and they're obviously getting loads of benefits from their various expensive directors of whatever.
2 rejects and an untried kid all from Stendels previous clubs.
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See they are hanging their relegation battle goal scoring on the potential arrival of a 19 year old german who’s played under 25 league games. Most of which are in the German fourth tier.
This Stendel guys a hoot.
Can't wait till the league starts again.Quote:
Originally Posted by MagicSwirlingShip
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Originally Posted by Springbank
I think they would no doubt point to 2012 as their highlight of the decade, however the game that has far and away had the biggest impact on them from the last decade was undoubtedly February 2016.Quote:
Originally Posted by I'm Spartacus
Keena has left them for Hartlepool. Had 6 month left on his contract so doubt they got a fee for him. Still no players in. Has Herr Stendel discovered its not that easy to persuade footballers to come to Scotland and play for a team 5 points adrift at the foot of the table? So that 3 out confirmed and 0 in.
Its all speculation, remember when we wanted Doige out before we got a new manager?Quote:
Originally Posted by Oscar T Grouch
Its the same over there, the manager is culling players who don't fit in his plans, the ones he keeps will be playing the way he wants or they will be away as well!!
Some of their players given a fair chance, will step up to the mark, but not sure it will be enough to save them!!!!!
This is where the challenge now lies for them. If they recruit well they'll finish the season well and will probably be 7th or 8th.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oscar T Grouch
If they recruit the wrong players they're back to square 1, if they can't recruit them then they need to complete the season with a front line of MacLean, Ikpeazu and youngsters previously deemed only suitable to loan out to lower league clubs.
It's proper knife edge stuff that could go either way. Everything about what they're doing will see them either start next season in a strong position or finish this one with one of the worst points totals in recent years.
I would not swap 2016 for anythingQuote:
Originally Posted by I'm Spartacus
Who?Quote:
Originally Posted by MagicSwirlingShip
They're gonna need a bigger bin
10 men couldnae carry..............................
Who is the only person to win anything for budge in her 6 years at the club (the championship). £££££ for zero success.Quote:
Originally Posted by FilipinoHibs
5 years in and it seems she's only now realising the recruitment side of things, the medical side and the academy aren't good enough. She therefore gives Levein the job of sorting them. :faf:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Absolutely for real.Quote:
Originally Posted by I'm Spartacus
Let's not kid ourselves on.
They should have had the cup fnal of the decade moment in 2012.
But every poll as the decade closed (nationwide) had Hibs 2016 last minute winner v Rangers as THE moment of the decade in Scottish football.
Their 2012 *should* have been the last word.
But sadly (for them) it led instead to going bust, relegation and then failing to stop Hibs winning the Big One.
I occasionally glance at their forums. Losing in 2016 hurt them more than winning in 2012 was enjoyable to them (at least the majority).
Song book - gone
Feel good - gone
Pressure - to the max
Our cup woes meant more to many of them than their own successes, so that's why I would say their biggest game of the last 10 years (in terms of impact on their club and its psyche) was in Feb 2016.
Happy to accept others will take a different view, but in my opinion it has cast a lonnnggggg shadow over Gorgie, one that's still very much there.:aok:
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Originally Posted by Springbank
They were ****ed anyway whether they carried on spending in 2012 or not. Everyone knew it at the time which is why it was such blatant cheating. Oh well. :rolleyes:
There is a strip on the wall of the Diggers, as a memorial to a Hearts fan that sadly died in 2012. The number on the back is 110. I doubt he was the only one that thought that way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Springbank
I used to work with an utter fud who had a 1902 tattoo interlaced with some lest we forget poppy pish.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cataplana
I have to disagree in this case, could you imagine us recalling the great team of Francomb, Doherty, Soares, Kujabi and O'Donovan?Quote:
Originally Posted by I'm Spartacus
We got a team worthy of the title of legends. That's what I want to remember.
That is one mixed up fellow.Quote:
Originally Posted by 660
Was he going for the 'Jambo stereotype of the year' award? Because he'd have to try a bit harder than that to get it.Quote:
Originally Posted by 660
I understand banter between supporters and I understand wanting your rivals to fail.
What I don't understand is the obsessive joy they appear to get from any of our failures or misgivings, then use them as a measure of their success, regardless of their own position in anything at that moment.
Weird stuff:rolleyes:
I think virtually every hearts fan would say that if they had the choice between winning in 2012 or not seeing us win in 2016, they'd all take winning in 2012.Quote:
Originally Posted by Springbank
I'd let them have it, I wouldn't change what happened for anything. For he, 2012 (and 2013) just made 2016 better.
When Gray's header hit the net, and the final whistle blew a few minutes later, every bit of hurt I've ever had as a Hibs fan was erased. I never, ever think of 2012 but I'm always thinking of 2016.
I would hazard a guess that most Hearts fans are the flip of that.
That's not to say that 2016 wasn't a massive blow to them, it was huge and I would go so far as to say it was a game changer in the balance of power in the city.
Since that day, they've had nothing on us. Their derby record is historically better but post 2012 I don't think it is and certainly not post 2016. Most of them have never seen them win the league cup, they regularly finish below us now, we have a bigger stadium and bigger crowds... but most of them would have accepted all of this to win in 2012.
😭 thought I had got past the crying stage every time I think about itQuote:
Originally Posted by matty_f
🤩 me too....but 😪😪Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveHFC
A major knock on effect from 2-2, 1-0 and the 2016 win is that it completely wiped out their derby confidence. The record since the cup win is now almost perfectly even:Quote:
Originally Posted by Springbank
Derbies: 13
Hearts wins: 4
Draws: 4
Hibs wins: 5
Hearts goals: 9
Hibs goals: 13
Previously even **** Hearts teams could compete better than us in head-to-head games, but the superiority/inferiority complex is gone now. We're (almost) evenly matched in resources and compete equally in games.
Oh - and we've won by two goals three times since then, and they haven't won any by that margin. "Comfortable" Hearts derby victories have become the exception for the first time in decades.
I'm with you, the 2012 win was tainted, events afterwards confirmed that for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Springbank
The irony is we were that bad they might have won without stolen money and all the stigma that subsequently resulted, and they'll never know.
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One guy in kickback saying this:
”Hopefully after all the dross is gone Stendel will get John Murray replaced and then finally tell AB to leave this club to the fans. Onwards and upwards from there”
WTF, he wants Stendel to clear out everyone and tell Ann Budge to go. A manager just in the door that practically none of them had heard of, he hadn’t heard of them and who’s currently got them 5 points adrift is now being touted to basically run the club and tell the owner to go. 😳 It’s beyond belief the delusional desperation they’re in, what a laughing stock.😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂 that’s brilliant, I honestly can’t believe the free reign he’s getting and he can’t do no wrong in the ****bos eyes genuinely baffled me those lot doQuote:
Originally Posted by Real Emerald
It seems stendel is running about the place like a gunslinger wiping out whoever he doesn't like. Meanwhile the sheriff has left town. Seems this pillock is answerable to no one, whilst the townsfolk live in fear, and bow to his very existence. Wait until the sheriff returns and sometime in the (near) future she decides to pull him up about something, or refuses to sanction what he wants.Quote:
Originally Posted by Real Emerald
He's behaving like a big bully. Most big bullies aint worth a F when put to the test. They usually run away.
They way they feel about Stendel is exactly how I felt about Fenlon. After the absolute wet blanket that was Calderwood it was great having someone who jumped about and waved their arms on the touchline, showed a bit of passion and was a great happy go lucky guy to boot. I willed him to succeed. Ultimately he was way out his depth. It will end in tears.
It’s also strange that with 3 weeks of the window left that Laugherty 😂 is not prepared to hold out a little while to get his dream move back to Hearts and settled with his second best dream move to Sunderland. How sad 😂
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Ahh players, doh!
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Originally Posted by Diclonius
Good Stats, this time pretty much also coincides with the time Leanne has been here.
Absolute panic and desperationQuote:
Originally Posted by SMAXXA
Surely not someone else who's turned them down. Thought he was desperate to go back to Hearts. Not looking good when even players that are desperate to join you then decide "Nah, on 2nd thoughts I'll not bother."Quote:
Originally Posted by Real Emerald
What a way to be remembered. His family must be so proud.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cataplana
A draw at home to Aberdeen who have a horrendous record at Tynecastle and an Instagram post wishing them Merry Christmas has somehow elevated Stendel to Legend status already, so much so they are bursting with pride at how they will still back him if they are relegated.
He's like the German Rasputin.
Wonder when the penny will drop with these thick, delusional Hearts fans. We'll leave aside the 16 winless games in a row as a manager for now. He's pinning his hopes on a 19 year old German fourth division player and two guys Barnsley fans are desperate to get rid of to claw back the gap to 11th but the maroon balloons are hanging off his every word. If it wasn't so funny I'd be really worried about their frame of mindQuote:
Originally Posted by SMAXXA
He’ll be doing a parade around Edinburgh poking out the top of a Sherman tank taking the salute of hundreds and thousands if the manage a win against Airdrie. They are all Stendel 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂Quote:
Originally Posted by CloudSquall
Lafferty signs for Sunderland. Another one bites the dust!!
HahahahahaQuote:
Originally Posted by NC1875
There was nothing to suggest Hearts were interested in signing Lafferty.Quote:
Originally Posted by NC1875
Was merely a wish of daft Hearts supporters including many on kickback which was encouraged by Lafferty and the media.
The latest - According to a Dundee paper Dundee FC will not be signing Craig Wighton back because Hearts want too much for him!
He isn't very good and they are desperate to get him of the wage bill but they want a fee, WTF!
Kickbackers have ignored this and are suggesting that the deal is off because of the wage demands of Wighton.
Suspect the truth is in the middle somewhere. Hearts wanting a tenner and a bag of balls and Dundee offering a fiver whilst Wighton only willing to move if he doesn't lose any money on the remaining 16 months of his contract.
Sunderland were supposedly after Boyce and with Lafferty signing for Sunderland, Hearts fans think it's a stick on that means Boyce is signing for Hearts.Quote:
Originally Posted by CMurdoch
More likely Boyce will sign a pre contract with Sunderland and Lafferty is there as a stopgap meantimeQuote:
Originally Posted by 04Sauzee
Or they get Boyce too and we get mcnulty 😂😂 that would be delightful to see their slant on that no doubt positive through the blind rageQuote:
Originally Posted by NC1875
Hearts PR team put out the story they were after Lafferty. Banderson was all over it.Quote:
Originally Posted by CMurdoch
That would amuse me 😅Quote:
Originally Posted by SMAXXA
It's all possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by SMAXXA
Sunderland will be doing everything possible now in order to reach at least the play offs and they have ground to make up if that is to be the case.
They’ve agreed a fee with Wolfsburg for a striker apparently
Aye but Wolfsburg decided they want to keep him to help their reserves get promoted from the 4th division.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hiberniankb
True story
Berra being linked with a move to Partick Thistle and Dundee interested in Wighton
I really can't get my head round this. All I get told by jambos is they won't be relegated and when I ask why not I get told we are the hearts. No logic,no rationale but that they are the jambos. I'm so glad I don't support them as they are beyond help. If they finish tenth they will celebrate like there is no tomorrow. They are definitely a weird bunch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Real Emerald
Manager goes after owner? Good luck with that! The Stendel stuff is now veering into the realm of insanity. He's their only hope and their ever present delusions are increasing rapidly as desperation sets in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Real Emerald
I've read about Jerusalem syndrome. I think it's about time some serious study is given to Tynecastle syndrome...
Incidentally there is a condition recognised as Stendhal syndrome. But it involves individuals being psychologically overwhelmed by objects or phenomena of great beauty. So nae chance of that down Gorgie way then.
I really can't get my head round this. All I get told by jambos is they won't be relegated and when I ask why not I get told we are the hearts. No logic,no rationale but that they are the jambos. I'm so glad u don't support them as they are beyond help. If they finish tenth they will celebrate like there is no tomorrow. They are definitely a weird bunch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Real Emerald
They are that part of Edinburgh that gets Edinburgh a bad name: stuck up, arrogant, boastful and full of themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by mjhibby
Strange imho. If they were after Boyce as some have mentioned over on broke back surely the money would have been better spent trying to get him in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hiberniankb
Wait no...... this will be the best young player in all of German football and they have beaten off Bayern, Dortmund and co to this talent....
If true I wonder what the fee is?
Did the yams not pay about £100k for Wigton? I very much doubt any team will pay anything for what can only be described as a woeful player.
No, they are the forelock tuggers that allow that to happen. They know they are small people, but by sooking up to the big men, they can feel bigger than the people who don't get to the party at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by FilipinoHibs
Is that going to be known as Rosebery Syndrome?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cataplana
Herrmann the German has been told he's going nowhere in this window.
That's Lafferty and Herrmann in the last 24hrs for our pink chums
Hearts need to spend, and they need to spend BIG.
Every signing they make needs to make the grade and be a substantial upgrade on what they have. Their signings also, ability aside, need to be the right characters (especially now that Berra, their only natural leader, is gone). Hearts are locked in a dogfight with Hamilton, St Johnstone and St Mirren - all of which are seasoned veteran relegation battle experts who know how to grind out results when it matters.
Even with good signings over the coming days (none in sight so far), Hearts next run of 5 fixtures comprises Ross County (A), Rangers (H), St Johnstone (A), Kilmarnock (H), Celtic (A). Anything less than 6 points from those 5 and I think they are in serious trouble as suspect they would be further adrift than 5 points. Following Celtic (A), they have a crunch home tie to Hamilton followed by an away tie to St Mirren, where confidence amongst new signings could be well and truly rock bottom by this point and I suspect the fans well and truly worried, anxious and angry.
It is not going to get any easier for Stendel by the looks of it. His first 5 games have been a disaster and the next 5 do not look any easier. All of this is being prepared amongst a squad where discontent will be growing by the minute.
Pleasing, as they would say.
It seems that they have missed out on another one of their transfer targets and wolfsburg have told them that they ain't selling the young player they allegedly had a fee accepted for?? [emoji23]
they are in trouble alright
I also noticed over on KB that someone has mixed concrete or something similar on their auld crest that was preserved when they knocked the old stand down and its in a bit of a state. I don't know how to post photos or I would
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From the Daily Record
Hearts have been told they have no chance of signing Wolfsburg's Charles-Jesaja Herrmann in January.
Daniel Stendel is looking to strengthen his squad after taking over the Premiership's basement side.
They've targeted exciting 19-year-old prospect Herrmann, who plays for Wolfsburg II in the fourth tier of German football and are keen to bring him to the capital.
However, Wolfsburg sports director Pablo Thiam has made it clear they have no intention of selling Herrmann this transfer window because the club are in the midst of an injury crisis.
Aye but the messiah got a draw against the mighty Dons so they’ll be in the top six in no timeQuote:
Originally Posted by The Spaceman
This?Quote:
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That's the one mate [emoji1] surely a bit sabotage going on and guaranteed JB construction will get the blame again [emoji42]Quote:
Originally Posted by 04Sauzee
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Jeez, can they get anything right?Quote:
Originally Posted by 04Sauzee
They give out all the history and tradition nonsense but don't seem to be able to look after items like this.
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The deluded are now saying that wolfsburg are playing games and just trying to squeeze a few extra deutsche marks oot thum and fully expect the player to sign before the window shuts. They really are something else and deluded doesn't even come close really.Quote:
Originally Posted by 04Sauzee
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Vanecek article in the Evening News-
And on the news Levein had been replaced by new boss Daniel Stendel, he said: “Zdenek (Zlamal) called me and was very happy because the change was important."
So players were happy that Levein had got punted, little did they know that he would still be working with them on a daily basis.
There must be some awkward corridor moments at Heriot Watt when Levein walks past the players and current manager.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibeesmad
Would be hilarious to see how a meeting went with Levein and Stendel went. Stendel picking up the pieces from the Levein and McPhee mess.
i thought a fee had been agreed for the German wonderkid?
You can guarantee whatever diddy they finally manage to lie to/blackmail enough to join them will be spun as their first choice.Quote:
Originally Posted by 04Sauzee
Much like their *cough* first choice manager was.
One for the mathematicians on here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barney McGrew
Does a 3rd choice striker by your 4th choice manager become your 12th best option or your 7th choice?
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Originally Posted by 04Sauzee
?!! What the **** has happened there?
As for missing out on the German striker, does a 19-year-old from the German fourth division strike anyone as the type of player you'd want to be relying on to dig you out of a relegation crisis?
Sportsound is an absolute hoot just now talking about Hearts :thumbsup:
Maybe they'll unearth another Vanacek for our amusement. Stole him from right under the noses of absolutely no one at all, lasted about 5 minutes and turned out to be a basketball player.Quote:
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Haha, it's fantastic listening.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibby Kay-Yay
Craig Levein calling other clubs to offer them Berra, just wow!
This is great entertainment :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by stoneyburn hibs
What are they saying?Quote:
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Originally Posted by Hiberniankb
The striker in question is a 19 year old called Herrmann, who is p1ssed off that he can't get a game for Wolfsburg Reserves in the Regionalliga Nord (a German Fourth Tier league).
He hasn't played a game for Wolfburg's first team but has played a few times for Germany's U-19s.
It can just be packaged up as "cluster****".Quote:
Originally Posted by Real Emerald
Consensus seems to be that Budge hasnae got a scoobie, Levein is still deeply involved, Stendel sounds like a crap man manager.
Funniest bit was M Stewart claiming that Levein was punting Berra to other managers this week :greengrin:greengrin Jon Daly sounds like a spoon
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Originally Posted by green day
I get the feeling that Michael Stewart doesn't like Hearts.
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Originally Posted by Keith_M
I think he is ambivalent to the team, doesnt like Levein.
Seems to be quite pro Hibs though I imagine if John Collins was our manager that would change https://www.hibs.net/image/gif;base6...iKqdPIqBoFADs=
Seems a decent guy though, I had a wee chat a while back in a coffee shop - was happy to talk football (and very keen to talk Hibs).
Daly is an absolute nugget. Mickey Stewart pushing all his buttons and getting the expected bunker fever induced responses...especially over the number of signings. He also admitted the structure went out the window when Neilson was driven out. Wanted a square go when Mikey implied as fact that Cathro had no say on the signings. Very defensive snd cageyQuote:
Originally Posted by Hibby Kay-Yay
Confirmed that Levein’s role is not just medical oversight as per recent media story. He is trying to get Berra to another club.Quote:
Originally Posted by Real Emerald
John Daly trying to defend Hearts, Levein and Budge but getting a rough time from M Stewart who sounds as though he’s loving what’s going on!
Stendel getting accused of not being man enough to deal with Berra face to face. Daly saying Berra should not have given that interview. M Stewart defending Berra for giving the interview. Stendel also getting questioned about his overall man management on getting rid of players before he brings in the ones he wants.
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Originally Posted by green day
I've actually met Stewart, and even had my photo taken with him for an article in the Evening News...
...which defo trumps meeting somebody in a coffee shop :wink:
:top marks ..........but my coffee was really nice:greengrinQuote:
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