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Originally Posted by Keith_M
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Watching Prime Ministers question time Bumbling Boris is not fit to be the leader of a party let alone the leader of the country. His communication skills are poor does not understand questions that are put to him. Can't even read his briefing properly. He makes Donald Trump look like Einstein.
Don't even think about drinking Coca-Cola or Fanta.Quote:
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Don't even think about buying a Ford car.Quote:
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When the Tory voter mindset is "imagine what would be happening in a parallel universe where Corbyn was somehow Prime Minister", all hope is lost.Quote:
Originally Posted by Future17
A lot of them, particularly in the north of England, voting to harm themselves and their families too. It’s sad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diclonius
I blame a dumbing down of the state education system over many years leading to a population without the ability to think critically. Couple that with a right wing media skilled in manipulating their readership and you end up with Dave from Sunderland voting Brexit and eventually losing his job in the Nissan factory. Social media playing a part in amplifying misinformation too.
I've seen some takes on this that the government have focus grouped this and leaked it themselves. Happy that their narrative is "look Boris is moving mountains to get things done in a time of crisis".Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
They'll roll that messaging out again and again when yet more corruption is uncovered. And as has been pointed out, the Tory voters are probably quite happy to buy into that version of events. Incredible.
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vote BLiS on may 6th and/or indy 2 and your condemning Scotland to at least another decade of Tory rule, though i suspect it will actually be much longer :agree:
Had a first-hand experience of Toryism yesterday. We won a £20 million grant from the UKRI (the funding body that provide funding to all academic research work), that was part-funded by the ODA (Overseas Development Aid) funding. They decided to scrap funding to overseas aid but further than that, decided to recoup some of the money they'd already allocated going back a number of years.
70% cut on our £20 million budget, meaning we're having to rescind offers of employment, cut back work we were doing and cancel agreements we have in place for data subscriptions, access etc.
Tory ****s. Nothing more than an ideological cut to funding work in Bongo Bongo land, when we all know the money would be better spent in London :rolleyes:
Education is key. My partner is American and we've had many conversations about how the US has got itself into such a state and she always blames it on shockingly under funded and neglected public schools (their state schools). I have always worried about us becoming America mark 2 but its happening now before our eyes and it genuinely worries me.Quote:
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https://youtu.be/ZAEM40UYKeU
Walk on music for Boris for the next Tory conference.
If they did troll the electorate like that there are Tory voters who would lap it up.Quote:
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The biggest difference between this Govt and previous similarity right wing administrations is an apparent anti intellectualism; going after the universities for ‘cancel culture’, Hancock’s ‘this country has had enough of listening to experts’ line encapsulates it neatly. Someone’s told them that appealing to the red wall means attacking ‘know it all’s’. It’s almost Maoist.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sylar
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Starmer just refused to sign letter calling for investigation into Boris Johnson’s lies – SKWAWKBOX
His excuse? A Labour spokesperson said Labour doesn’t normally back initiatives started by other parties.
I've been boycotting them all for years. :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
Joking aside, I think Dyson comes out of this worse than Johnson.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ons-government
One of their own now confirming what we already know. This would be extraordinary in any other time but it won't lose them a single vote down south.
Headline should be complete ******** rightfully calls his exemployer out for being ********sQuote:
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"Support expected to soar amongst English voters"
Instructions for Union Flag pole erection, in Welsh.
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/w...-town-20380441
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How did an absolute bare minimum wage miraculously transform itself into a National Living Wage?
Brilliant!Quote:
Originally Posted by Kato
Reminds me of the time one of my pals played bagpipes at an officers' mess dinner and had them raise their glasses for a toast "the Queen can kiss my arse" in gaelic.
After the Real Living Wage was introduced a few years ago, the National Minimum Wage was renamed as the Living Wage, obviously to cause confusion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Killiehibbie
It also allows companies to say they are paying the Living Wage when they are in effect paying far below the RLW. Trying to think of any party leader whose family business would try that on? 🙄
It's certainly working as i've ended up arguing with two people in the last week who reckon their companies pay the Real Living Wage with rates of £8.91 and £9 per hour. They wouldn't accept their was a difference until I proved it, over a grand per year difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by ACLeith
Not sure if this has already been posted, but Cummings isn’t happy...(which is always a good thing)
https://dominiccummings.com/2021/04/...-claims-today/
Not sure it is. Hoping Johnson can remain in post for the inter campaign.Quote:
Originally Posted by easty
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Shirley Johnson will remain in post until the suits want him out, and shirley the suits won't want him out while he's still such an electoral asset dan sarf? Cummings won't be changing that in a hurry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Half way through an electoral cycle is their preferred model,gets rid of an unpopular nasty party PM without the need for an election and can approach the next election with a newly spun saviour of the nation.. Gove, Raab, anyone else the telegraph wants to project.Quote:
Originally Posted by lapsedhibee
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I can't see what Cummings is saying that lands a real blow.
:agree: He's just saying that Johnson's a liar, isn't he? Which people already know and still want him as PM. And Cummings is a liar anyway so why is anyone going to pay much attention?Quote:
Originally Posted by Glory Lurker
Dead cat on the table alert. Just like with all the Barnard Castle testing his eyes stuff. That was nonsense as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Glory Lurker
The depressing thing about this is that several media sources (including the BBC) are treating this as headline news. Given that the content is what we've all known for ages, there's two observations I'd make from that:Quote:
Originally Posted by Glory Lurker
1) The media appear to want to pretend this is new information and we haven't all known it for ages, and/or;
2) It's not the content they're interested in. Rather it's the soap opera style of the breakdown of the personal relationship that they feel people care about.
Yep, a debate on truthfulness and morality between Billy Liar and Walter Mitty.Quote:
Originally Posted by lapsedhibee
Or two different kinds of poisonous snakes in a pillowcase as man in pub called them last night.
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The media attitude to this continues to intrigue me. More interested in his mates paying for his house than him having given bucketloads of taxpayers' cash to his mates.
There's a cabal within the Tory party who want Gove as the main man, that includes Cummings. He's even more evil than Johnson, a proper ideologue who genuinely hates the working class and the poor.
This is just the latest power play to get him where they want him.
If everything that has happened in the last 15 months hasn't turned the public against Johnson then conventional sleaze isn't going to cut it. People just expect bog standard corruption now so they probably see it as worth trying something knew.
I honestly ****ing hate Tories. I hold a special distaste for working class Tories who try to justify their stance. They do not give a single **** about anyone but themselves.
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I’d say Johnson is safe for now.
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He could defecate in a box of kitten's live on TV and the response from the press and public would be that he took decisive action dealing with that pesky kitten issue. And it's the EU's fault anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Liz Truss the latest to trot out the line "that is what the public want to know" after giving the answer she wanted to give to a question she didn't want to answer properly.
Probably the most gaffe prone bumbling minister of the lot, seems to actually want to appear patronising but isn't any good at that either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Future17
More than filled the Chris Grayling role.
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Interesting the claim is that Cummings was pushing for a lockdown.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
The narrative at the time from both supporters and opponents of Johnson was that Cummings was pulling the strings and agitating to delay a lockdown or rule it out entirely.
Looks like the Tory press are lining up Michael 'Goebbels' Gove as the next f***wit to ***** on us from a great height then.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
https://twitter.com/politicsjoe_uk/s...028664832?s=21
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Fact-checking, does the bbc even do this kind of thing anymore?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KmGDWnbbcBQ
Only a few weeks back the Tories were complaining that they should have been in charge of Scotland’s pandemic response. And still, 1 in 5 Scots will vote for them. [emoji35]Quote:
Originally Posted by 1875godsgift
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BBC reporting Johnson did make a "bodies could pile high" comment in relation to resisting another lockdown.
Although he's still denying it, the context is unclear and he's a Teflon-coated gaffe-aholic, I think this could be the beginning of the end for him. Even the Tories can't go into an election led by someone who is such an easy opposition target.
The irony of a Scot being the last Prime Minister of the UK would be pretty funny.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1875godsgift
That poll is scary. A bunch incompetent, sleazy, elitists who **** up everything they touch and they're still miles ahead in the opinion polls :brickwallQuote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Scottish independence is not just a preference, it's a necessity now.
Don't doubt you're right. I expect there'll be an extended period where none of the contenders actually want to be the backstabber-in-chief but it's inevitable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Future17
However, what's really flabbergasting me today is - wtf do you actually get for spending well over £100K on decorating a flat? :confused:
They don't **** everything up. They line their pockets and those of their friends very efficiently.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Harp Awakes
I've been wondering today, if any of those who were still going to vote tory despite losing a loved one to Covid have now changed their minds after the "pile the bodies up" comment.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Harp Awakes
No, because the parallel universe where Jeremy Corbyn is Prime Minister would somehow be worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bangkok Hibby
That's the kind of mental gymnastics we're dealing with here.
Sadly I agree. What a mess of a country.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diclonius
As with all things Bozo, give it up to 7 days for what he says, promises or predicts to turn out to be the opposite or to swiftly require the opposite of his statement to happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Future17
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Particularly when you have a taxpayer funded budget of £30,000 per year!!Quote:
Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens
As a Scot it will also be difficult for him to be seen to be pandering to the Scots should the No campaign start offering goodies in an attempt to save the union, that would send Gammons south of the border into a rabid frenzy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diclonius
He doesn't give a flying one about Scotland or being Scottish.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
Imagine being a real Scot and deriving any pride in being associated with this creature. Denying him a Scottish passport could be a real independence vote winner.
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his biographer thinks it makes Johnson a down to earth guy
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i read the snivelling brown-nosed coward Murray Ross is also backing Johnson, if Johnson wanted to obliterate everyone in Scotland Dross would still back him, it's quite nauseating knowing that people in this country vote for the nasty party
oh i wonder what the Tories are up to..
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The thing that makes the allegation so believable is that it is how Johnson speaks, but it's the complete opposite of how the average "man in the pub" speaks in most parts of the country.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
There were people on here arguing Johnson's point that collateral damage was acceptable to avoid the negative economic consequences of lockdown. However, they made that argument with at least a degree of empathy.
"Let the bodies pile high" would be just his style of hyperbolic, faux grandiose, Shakespearean tragedy meets Nero waffle.
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Originally Posted by Northernhibee
Media...cough.. cough.... British (muffled words) Media... Charisma...Uniqueness...News, Truth and Specificity....! :wink::greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Diclonius
It's amusing watching those who were last year assuring us that Dominic Cummings was a bastion of integrity now denouncing him as a liar.
And vice versa 😉Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
That too aye. :greengrinQuote:
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Feral. Cocaine does that.Quote:
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To be fair, BBC and ITV have had the quote corroborated.Quote:
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This is a Gove/Cummings revenge take down, sponsored by the Daily Mail. It’s not going to change anything, possibly to make the Tories even more extreme, and to give the false impression that the media is doing anything else but faithfully serving its masters.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
If successful, won't it make a difference that Gove, replacing Johnson, doesn't have the same 'popular appeal' as him? :dunno:Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
Will he have the same NO to indyref commitment as Johnson?Quote:
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Probably more commitment, but little in the way of Johnson's charisma and boyish charm :jamboak: to carry the country with him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
I can’t see it, but who the **** knows anymore really? I thought it was inconceivable that large swathes of working class England could support Boris but they seem to be.Quote:
Originally Posted by lapsedhibee
It’s depressing that of all the genuinely corrupt behaviour that’s been going on and has been obvious to anyone who pays attention, it’s basically hearsay about Boris being a rude loudmouth that’s the mud that sticks. Everyone knew he was that. But take him down for that, and only that, and the wider group of shysters stays intact.
It's very clear. No matter who you vote for in Westminster, you're getting Cummings. Useless opposition, media with as many Tories in charge as possible and disposable PMs and cabinets.
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aww wee shame, not
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shame on Starmer, shame on him :agree: kin Tory
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What the hell is he actually doing?Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
Brexit has made clear that many of labour's heartland red wall Socialists are not International Socialists. To win them back he has to show that he and Labour are not revolutionaries willing to destroy British culture (whatever that is) in favour of Johnny Foreigner. The red flag needs to be replaced by a red, white and blue one and the bigger the better. An attack on the democratically elected prime minister in todays political climate is tantamount to treason.Quote:
Originally Posted by Northernhibee
Thank god it’s not Corbyn, that’s all that matters really.Quote:
Originally Posted by Northernhibee
Maybe they’re both sh**.Quote:
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:faf: The important question isn’t ‘is Boris ****’, it’s is he stealing YOUR money from you to give to his mates.Quote:
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I’m so glad someone is saying this finally, no surprise it’s Monbiot and no surprise the mainstream media doesn’t touch him anymore.
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The “both” in my reply to you was referring to Corbyn and Starmer.Quote:
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Exactly, it's his disguise, like Rees-Mogg's top-hat and alleged Christian values. A veneer to hide the greed.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
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Johnson completely lost his rag at PMQs today. He knows he's in trouble. Still lying that only Brexit made the vaccine rollout possible though.
I don’t think he will survive this to be honest. Sadly, as he was handy for indyref 2 and I was counting on him refusing a referendum.Quote:
Originally Posted by lapsedhibee
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Gove will be favourite to take over though. An even more right wing idealogue who hates the country of his birth and will continue with the line of refusing a referendum. He's a sleekit ******* as well who will be loved by the dyed in the wool Tories but won't appeal to any one else. He won't make any negative difference to the independence pushQuote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Just watched a bit, he's "taking back control" by going completely tonto over things that weren't questioned. An inept baby.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
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He certainly did, ranting, shouting and pointing his finger at Starmer whilst letting his anger boil over. He actually displayed his nasty, aggressive and hateful true self, showing his real character.Quote:
Originally Posted by lapsedhibee
Yes, Boris is a bufoon, an elitist and a chancer. Gove is definitely sleekit and also a real nasty piece of work. Both are a shot in the arm to the independence movement.Quote:
Originally Posted by weecounty hibby
The snake that is Gove is completely off the radar at the moment as he's in his bunker controlling the anti Bozo spin.Quote:
Originally Posted by weecounty hibby
The phrase 2 cheeks of a very similar erse has never been more relevant, as someone remarked above, shuffling the bungler that is Bozo out the way just really changes the puppet, the puppeteers are still largely in place.
Its almost as if Bozo was allowed to be leader to deliver brexit as he would say just about anything and leave a mess behind but wouldn't be around for long so it didn't matter.
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Wonder if Gove has similar taste in wallpaper?
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Depends on who is payingQuote:
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You. It’s always you.Quote:
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