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Also shows a remarkable lack of self respect by Neilson. It’s reminiscent of a victim of domestic abuse going home because “this time it will be different”. Hearts don’t change and sooner or later they’ll get tired of him and give him another good kicking.
Assuming Stendel’s backroom staff who just arrived in January were on a keep us up or your sacked contract as well?
Leaves Dundee United to go back to Hearts. Strange one ! Does he know something we don't or has he no ambition ?
It's not strange at all.
Neilson out, Neilson in, Jambos are skint, Jambos are loaded, Players forced to take pay cuts, Club paying out compensation.
Straight forward really
Can we merge this with the thread that broke the story two hours ago?
I hope not. The consolidated mega threads not been a good move in my view.Quote:
Originally Posted by theonlywayisup
Sorry - i hadn't seen it anywhere as came up as breaking news on BBC. Not sure which thread it was mentioned onQuote:
Originally Posted by theonlywayisup
No, they are relegated.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlbertK86
If reconstruction happens for them they will be a Championship team that gets invited in.
So we could beat two Robbie Neilson teams on the way to winning the Scottish Cup!
That would be funny.
In fairness no matter how bad it is, it would be much worse if Levein was still there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibs Class
It's fine, they've planned for this. They'll just appoint one of them as director of footballQuote:
Originally Posted by Skol
They have been relegated even if reconstruction happens the record will show the season ended the were relegated.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlbertK86
I guess we lost as now merged with the generic Hearts thread so lost within a load of crap rather than a discussion about their new manager and why would he jump divisions and possibly better financesQuote:
Originally Posted by judas
Think that'll be quite a divisive appointment.
Oh well! Maybe he's going for a hat-trick of championship winners medals. Nothing to write home about, Robbie!
Besides the obvious money incentive, why would Neilson want to give up a job with a potentially safe Premiership club in favour of a struggling Championship club?
He's a Hearts fan right? Be on a bigger wage I'd imagine, Levein is no longer at the club.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim44
Can see why he went for it to be fair.
Don't think it means anything more than that in regards to this court case etc.
Wonder how Saughton Jambo never caught this scoop.
Hearts are a far far bigger club than the Utd off today Robbie knows that and so do we. He will probably double his wage overnight and be on a BIG bonus to win the Championship.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim44
Because he is a typical small thinking Jambo with no ambitions beyond serving at the incomplete pink temple of hoofball? And he is a slave to the maroon pound!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim44
One poster on JKB saying basically "Lol to any Hobos looking in - we can't be broke if we are hiring Neilson."
Yes, yes you can. Stendel was on £12k per week. Neilson will cost about £4k per week.
What an absolutely awful appointment for Hearts - you cannot make it up. This BBC documentary will be absolute gold dust.
Davie Weir as sporting director seems to be the rumour
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Originally Posted by Peevemor
Brilliant :not worth
Have they rented the plane yet?
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.c....jpg?width=640
Maybe not, but prevents the same discussion (argument) in multiple threads.Quote:
Originally Posted by judas
If they win their court case and stay in the premiership then surley Stendal must still have a contract?
Credit where it’s due. No snidely remarks on their website about his record agaInst Hibs.
Oh wait .........
I don't think so because they have officially been relegatedQuote:
Originally Posted by Big Bobby T.
He’s under big pressure to win the cup semi v us though.
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Not sure that can happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by MacGruber
If last seasons relegation was somehow undone, they’d never have been relegated, so you could certainly debate whether any relegation clause they’d made us of could therefore also be reversed.
If their relegation stands, last season is done, I’m not sure on what basis a reconstructed too league could opt to include them.
Does anyone know what rhe situ is with Hibs players have the accepted the reduction ?
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Poppy theives showing their usual class. Daniel Stendel forgoes his wage and doesn't take any money to help out the club because they say they are skint. They then shell out a 3 year contract and compensation for a new mamager. Don't even have the decency to even mention Stendell in their statement. No shame
So true, you could say Stendal saving his wage paid the compo...comedy really.Quote:
Originally Posted by MacGruber
Did Budge not force players to take wage cuts too?Quote:
Originally Posted by MacGruber
Let's welcome him back with open arms. It was his team and tactics that bottled it that day at Tynie on our way to Scottish Cup glory. 👌
Yup.Quote:
Originally Posted by MacGruber
Madness.
They didn’t even announce Stendal wasn’t returning !
So somehow Neilson was approached today and spoke with his family and decided within a few hours this is the right move.
Stendal was clever to go without wages as makes him look the good guy for getting them relegated but he’s been shafted at the end of it and can’t imagine he will be happy with how they have acted. All that pressing and change of style for nothing.
They could have got Neilson months ago when Utd won the league and they probably wouldn’t be in this mess.
Nothing to suggest Stendl wasn't begging to go. Doubt they paid anything.
But say by chance they get Reinstated to top league will Stendel have a cse for compensation under unfair dismissal?Quote:
Originally Posted by matty_f
Their official statement says "we have this evening agreed terms with all relevant parties" so I assume that includes Stendel.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lago
Hearts - always trying the be the big team
Two complete sets of changing rooms
Two QCs
Two wins for Danny Boy
Two Managers
I'm going out at 9pm tomorrow night to applaud Ann Budge. She deserves it. Made the last 12 weeks quite entertaining during lockdown.
i dont think Stendal ever really wanted the job in the first place.Quote:
Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES
I take it that any attempt to be reinstated to the Premiership is now officially dead, then?
Surely if they succeeded with that, then Stendal's contract would still be valid, so they'll have two Head Coaches on the books. Though, TBF, that's one less than than they had last season.
Also, if they're so skint, threatening to bin players if they don't take wage cuts, then where's the (presumably large) compensation for Dundee United coming from?
I presume these questions will all be raised by our esteemed SMSM.
14% win ratio for Daniel in the league. 29% if you include cup games. This is the guy who was going to revolutionise Scottish football. :greengrin
How does that compare to Leveins 2nd stint and Cathro, must be much of a muchnessQuote:
Originally Posted by Pagan Hibernia
Was Robbie the manager when they got pumped out Europe by the Maltese farmers?
Quite a shocking turn of events but it was always on the cards that Stendel was never to return.
Feel more sorry for him than I did for P.Higginbottom ( zero sympathy for him mind )
Did Budge not say last week she wanted a sporting director first?
It wasQuote:
Originally Posted by Since452
Here's the story but it's the Daily Record
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/hearts-maltese-disaster-reflects-just-8480974
Rumours its Weir or Elvis 🙄Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedantic_Hibee
They have only just asked the court to reverse the aspects of the resolution to agree promotion and relegation so we can only assume from that they they are still hoping to not actually have been relegated.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
Yeah and then he claimed post match that it wasn’t a big deal because it would have been expensive for the club to travel to Russia for their tie in the next round. I’m not sure his comments were much comfort for the Hearts fans who had already booked flights, visas and accommodation though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Since452
Budge doesn't know what day of the week it is let's be honest. All she's done is contradict herself at every turn.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedantic_Hibee
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Originally Posted by MacGruber
You’re surely not still expecting any class or dignity from Hearts are you?
They’ve proved themselves beyond doubt as a grubby, self-serving wee outfit.
Blimey, I didn’t see that coming!
I wonder what the Dundee Utd fans think of this news?
Neilson plenty of time between now and October to perfect his tactics !
https://www.eastfootball.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?44739-Hearts-take-Neilson/page11Quote:
Originally Posted by hfc rd
I doubt the Jambos will be claiming he’s won 2 Championships.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
Did Stendhal walk or get pushed ?
What a sorry episode he was.
They reckon shankland will follow Neilson. They must have a spare couple million lying about
Pretty good analogy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibs Class
Could be Elvis as he reads books on management,talks in riddles and talking up Budge's court case.Quote:
Originally Posted by 04Sauzee
So much for being skint.
He's from Paisley very unlikely to be a Hearts fan.Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnM1875
Unless they’ve promised neilson premiership football. Don’t get why he would go otherwise. Stendel was a piss poor manager but they’ve treated him shockingly here.
They have benefactors who continue to back them. Theres more than one guy putting money in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart93
He also said something about it being good to get a replay in the Scottish Cup in 2016 as it would generate extra revenue 😂Quote:
Originally Posted by CapitalGreen
I still canny see them giving them a few million to ***** on shanklandQuote:
Originally Posted by flash
How could they promise him Premiership football? Robbie Nielson appointment - tock, tick, tock, tick. To be fair, he’s probably the best they’ve had in the past few years and, with unlimited funds at his disposal, he should be able to get them promoted next season. On the other hand it could all easily go tits up for them.Quote:
Originally Posted by aldo85
Remember Neilson celebrating getting a penalty shootout in the playoff final against St Mirren and then losing it? Not scoring a single penalty Lol.
I agree, more likely Nisbet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart93
They’ve made an offer to Craig GordonQuote:
Originally Posted by flash
Jees, Budge is pulling out all the PR stunts in a vain effort to save her arse. What next ? Robbo up front with Skatchell in midfield.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart93
Those Yams are so thick and obedient they'll lap it up, deflecting from the quiet announcement that they're dropping the court case.
They are a parody of the themselves. Can't wait for Netflix series.
Did they even announce Stendals departure?
Looks like they are getting the band back togetherQuote:
Originally Posted by Stuart93
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Originally Posted by Waxy
Technically I think he was out of contract. But he wanted to return.
Maybe he will go to the Arabs?
They’ll surely be after a manager with a better recordQuote:
Originally Posted by jacomo
Can see Tommy Wright at DUQuote:
Originally Posted by easty
I'd imagine his claim that he wanted to come back and work in the Championship came with the condition that they continued to pay him the same salary. Hearts will have know for a while they couldn't afford him, hence the move for Neilson (which probably wasn't as sudden as it appears).Quote:
Originally Posted by jacomo
Bit bemused by Neilson's willingness to return. Lower league football and no games until October. I'd have thought he was using the United role to rebuild his career and aim for something bigger, not a step back into a previous role. Can only assume the yams are paying him significantly more than the Arabs (though doubtless a great deal less than they lavished on Stendel).
Robbie “2-0 up at Tynie”. Never let them forget that we could never have done it without him.
Levein back as director of football, a role they still seem to regard as essential?Quote:
Originally Posted by 04Sauzee
'We spread the net far and wide for a new director of football but then we realised the best man for the job was the man who had just left us'.
Mind you, bearing in mind that his role during Stendel's tenure seemed to comprise of showing Stendel round the stadium he won't be needed for that when Neilson returns.
Think Budge and the benefactors have had a sherry afternoon at hers today.
If I were a Hearts Season Ticket holder and FoH contributor, I'd be more peeved off about how the Hearts board have squandered my money on sub standard signings and awful managerial appointments like Levein, Cathro and Stendel.
Hearts fans should be venting their anger towards Ann Budge and the Hearts board rather than blaming the rest of Scottish football for their demise. :agree:
Thread on Kickback giving their full backing to the Budgie, I think this is more down to her benefactor links than her ability as a chairperson :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by AFKA5814_Hibs
C'Mon the Budge she's doing such a good job. :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Sammy7nil
Seriously, they think it's everybody else's fault. :rolleyes:
Take responsibility for yer own actions. :aok:
I’m not expecting any replies as I just needed to get this down to get my head around it:
Hearts:
We’re 2nd in the league but a banner-carrying plane protest convinced us Neilson is pish!
We had the right man all along) Naw, yiz are right again Levein is pants
Stendal is better than J Ross (even though Hibs are in the top six and we are rock bottom 4 points adrift)
We’ve wasted £10m of fans money and JA’s money on 100 dud players
The new stand is unfinished, not fit for purpose and well over budget
We ruined a brand new £1m pitch
Stendal Might have to go home (we’ll just continue to pay for 3 managers and their staff till he agrees to forfeit his wages)
We’re skint: 50% wage cut or clause 12 invoked
No we didn’t give players an ultimatum...but we reserve the right to use c12
Calling all agents: we’re loaded
If we are relegated we will take all youse down anaw
Better vote for reconstruction or we will burn you all!
Nae messing, were too big for the championship you’re all corrupt and only looking after yourselves
We need compo cos we’re skint - Naw, we’re really loaded
We need £8m to survive in the championship
Dundee Utd, we named you in court papers but, can we have Neilson back cos we changed our minds and we think he’s really great?
We know we put our bank details up for money directly, cos we’re desperate, but we’re offering £200, 000(?) a year to Robbie
Budge is an awesome CEO right!?
Not according to Hearts. They maintain they have been expelledQuote:
Originally Posted by MacGruber
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The Scottish Championship is Neilson's comfort zone.
He did not do well against a championship when he was last at Hearts.Quote:
Originally Posted by HFC93
Moot point. They were relegated based on league position. Oldco were expelled after a vote.Quote:
Originally Posted by kaimendhibs
Certainly looks like he’s been appointed to get them out of the championship. The French league have said they will not change their league as it’s too late re tv contracts etc. Are Utd expecting to get paid this decade. Why Neilson thinks it’s better to go to a basket case of a club who supporters harried him out instead of a club who were back on an even keel i can’t quite fathom. Hope they draw each other in one of the cups. That would be a tasty game for sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by HFC93
Oldco weren't expelled, they stopped existing and disappeared from the league.Quote:
Originally Posted by Turkish Green
Had a mental dream last night that Hearts appointed Robbie Neilson haha. Hearts are such a basket case you wouldn't put anything past them. That's maybe too far though.
Why the **** would Utd do business with them?
That pretty much sums it up. Budgie has had a shocker of a lockdown. Must have obliterated the drinks cabinet on a daily basis.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wee Effen Bee
Have absolutely no idea why he would go back there at all, never mind at this time. What bull**** has she promised him? What is he thinking?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fuzzywuzzy
Utterly disrespectful to Dundee Utd at a time Hearts are dragging their name into the courts which suggest he is a perfect fit for this unscrupulous club.
Pretty poor from Neilson after them giving him a job when others wouldn't, giving him a disproportionate budget to other teams in the championship and supporting him to the title. Was on the radio last week or so talking about looking forward to new league campaign.with united. Obviously money driven but doesn't imo show him in a good light.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spike Mandela
Disagree. In football a manager is the most expendable employee at a club. He could have stayed at Dundee Utd, lost a couple of games at the start of next season and be sacked by September. There is never any loyalty from clubs so they should not expect it from managers. When a better deal comes along then you are best to take it, so long as it’s the right place for you to work.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimBHibees
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Probably got a good wedge from hearts to pay off his contract and United appoint someone on a lower salary, every penny is a prisoner it seems.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fuzzywuzzy
I for one am delighted that Hearts are spending their money on a manager on compensation to secure a manager that a sizable proportion of their support decided they didn't want 4 years ago.
Noticed in today's news in the know Barry Anderson talks about Neilson taking over after Hearts relegation and how he will relish the chance to get them out of the Championship. Sounds like Hearts are going to pull the plug on their court bid???
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Goodbye friends and friends, this was your Daniel.