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Sometimes satire works better than simple explanation:agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
Liked this one too.
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A sobering thread on the increase of poverty since the tories got in power, 600,000 more kids in poverty than in 2012. If you vote tory not only are you a clown you are also complicit to the hunger and pain of those children
https://mobile.twitter.com/isabe1_ta...69642398937094
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Today’s poverty official statistics show that between April 2021 and March 2022, 14.4 million people were living in poverty in the UK. That figure includes 4.2 million children. These huge numbers were recorded even before the worst of the cost of living crisis hit
NS was getting criticised yesterday for keeping those same figures steady in Scotland.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
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Truss's disaster capitalist pals rewarded with peerages. An absolute gang.
https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/li...erages-2232637
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Scottish Tories left red-faced as media BANNED from Tory spring forum | The National
A SENIOR Scottish Tory who called the media ban at SNP hustings “disgraceful” has been left humiliated as the Conservatives block journalists from their own spring conference.
Craig Hoy, who serves as the Scottish Conservatives’ deputy chairman and sits in Holyrood as an MSP, slammed the SNP’s initial media ban from hustings last month as “cowardly”.
Now reporters have been banned from attending the Conservatives’ annual spring conference – with the party billing the event as being focused on “internal training”
MPs for hire ....
https://twitter.com/ByDonkeys/status...238306816?s=20
Maybe the poor mites have mortgages to pay?Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
Laughing at us, absolutely shameless.
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That is some top work by Led By Donkeys.Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
Although I hate them all for doing this, you have to admire the brazen confidence of Hancock. The others at least feign that they have to think what their rate is. Hancock answers instantly with “10,000 Sterling”. He’s obviously used to whoring himself out this type of thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
Did I just hear Michael Gove on Sky News saying that drug taking was completely unacceptable or was my beer spiked last night?
They really are laughing at us.Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
If I want to take on work outside my full time job, I need to gain approval from my employer, who naturally want to know that the role I have agreed contractually to take on won't be impacted. It's highly likely they would not approve this, especially it out involved me going off to South Korea for a few days during agreed working hours.
But if your an MP, who is supposed to work for us - then fill your boots.
Just what we need. One more push and I feel we can finally win this war on drugs. It feels like victory is imminent. [emoji849]Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
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And the Labour Party are just as bad on this just now. Idiots.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
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Apparently wants to ban nitrous oxide, laughing gas, a legitimate anaesthetic in dentistry, midwifery etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
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Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
The desired effect is to feel giggly, relaxed, euphoric and distort reality. It can also make people feel anxious, paranoid and dizzy. The effects only last for about two minutes.
The gas works by temporarily preventing oxygen from reaching the blood.
https://metro.co.uk/2023/03/26/nitrous-oxide-set-to-be-banned-in-crackdown-on-anti-social-behaviour-18503459/
Only lookng to ban it for sale and consumption from what I've picked up.
They better ****ing not or I will be walking around with teeth like Harold Steptoe !! I hate dentists with a passion 😵Quote:
Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
Banned possession now. Because it's worked so well for everything else...Quote:
Originally Posted by Santa Cruz
As someone pointed out in the article I read, for the vast, vast majority of people having a criminal record will be much more of a danger to their lives that using laughing gas a few times when they are young.
It’s hard to escape the possibility that as a country we are just very stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by neil7908
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I'm sure these families would agree with the ban. That was just a quick search, there will no doubt be many more. I'm not arguing against the damage a criminal conviction can cause, I'm pointing out it can cause serious health harm.Quote:
Originally Posted by neil7908
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/new...-walk-26370846
https://www.itv.com/news/westcountry...g-laughing-gas
It’s definitely not good for you but a ban will do nothing to stop the supply. Will be a nice little earner for organised crime though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Santa Cruz
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Because making hash stopped anyone taking it, in the real world kids can get drugs in 30 minutes if they want especially with Snapchat being huge. I'm sure the tories know it will do nothing but they've probably seen it polls well after a week of being ripped on crime
Election on the way and everyone gets tough on crime. No actually but rhetorically. I’ve seen this movie a few times no over the years. It’s boring.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
They are a dream for criminals though.
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Most of the prohibition laws came in during the early 1920's (when some toff flapper lassie overdosed and caused a huge Leah Betts style scandal in the tabloids).
So, the War On Drugs is 100 years oldish - Hurrah.
If there is a bigger waste of police team I'd like to know about it.
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Another way of looking at it, from a sort of Marxist-feminist perspective (and that’s generalising massively) is that those who hold power legitimise or illegitimise different drugs as a means of control and coercion, but also to ensure productivity of the masses. The real question is why some drugs and why not others, and at what times and in what spheres.
Doesn’t have to just be through drugs either, and arguably doesn’t have to be brazenly sinister. One of the cheapest, most effective ways of social control, through reducing anti-social behaviour on public transport, has to have been trying to ensure wi-fi on buses and trains. A population with its focus on a blue screen is a docile population.
Then we need to ban alcohol, solvents, driving etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Santa Cruz
The morals of it are totally irrelevant. It hasn't worked for any other drug. Why would it work now?
When America has a more liberal attitude towards something than you do it's probably time for a re-think.
But not with guns obviously. :greengrin
https://www.socialeurope.eu/suave-su...rished-britons
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Just reading through the government website about their new anti social rules, says they will be testing criminals for drugs like Ecstacy, begs the question, do they serious think anyone out their nut on an Eccie is away robbing old ladies?
They don’t even think they’ll be doing the testing. It’s just about getting the ‘lock em up and throw away the key’ brigade back inside and thinking about voting Tory.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mon Dieu4
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Think you are right, just found it really weird that instead of the likes of alcohol or coke they mentioned Ecstacy and crystal meth with isn't really too much of a thing in the UK anywayQuote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Might end up unintentionally catching a few government ministers if coke was targeted?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mon Dieu4
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tory voters everywhere in the UK seriously need to waken the **** up, for the love of ****, and the same goes for anyone voting for pro-brexit parties
Carol Vorderman on Twitter: "Thanks @JolyonRubs for unearthing this video showing the man who Liz Truss wants to make into Lord Mark Littlewood. This is corruption. Nothing short of that. Blatant. Sleazy. It should be investigated by police. Including the politicians any donors are introduced to." / Twitter
The committee stage of the Illegal Migration Bill is about to start (today) in the House of Commons, but MPs debating it still don't have the government's impact assessment.
The Home Office says it will be published "in due course", but that should have been before the law reached parliament.
Jeez, this creep was education secretary, sort of.......[emoji6]Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
Am guessing properly constructed conversational English maybe isn't his first language?
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https://www.thenational.scot/news/23...vernment-role/
Sunak appoints a third peer to a ministerial post. And people still think this is a democracy.[emoji849]
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People think all these things are ok.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2wO7yGdlGU
Young lad still living at home who wants to join the army thinks Sunak has his head screwed on.
We are sleepwalking.
Show some respect. Where is your patriotism? He's the Earl of Mintos. All we need is the Duke of Toblerone, Baron Von Marsbar and Viscount Viscounts for us to really (checks notes) "deliver for the British people".Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
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Mark Littlewood, the boss of the right wing think tank the Institute of Economic Affairs is one of Truss’s four nominations for the slightly shiny hat. I’ve actually met the guy about twenty years ago and did some work with him when he was an extremely pro European Lib Dem, now from what I’m reading he seems to be a rabid Europhobe and is clearly getting a peerage as a kickback for the work he did as a lobbyist and with the deep referendum analytics that showed the Leave campaigns their attack lines. Now parachuted in to play a role in our democratic process. Nominated by a PM who almost ****ed the country in less than 50 days and is widely regarded as a joke and a disgrace.
When you think deeply about this appointment and others, the only conclusion is that the way the British state works is so fundamentally corrupt that until this changes there is no prospect of genuine democracy in the pure sense of the word.
Are you still against Indy?Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
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It's a grift. Pure and simple. The dumbing down of sections of the populace bearing fruit.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
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I voted for independence in the referendum and would again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Cool, I wasn’t sure. Was a genuine question.[emoji106]Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
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Yep, I supported Labour because im committed to wealth redistribution and a fairer society. I’m not really interested in what spatial geographic level these things are achieved, it’s a secondary issue and I’ll vote on the Independence question based on where we are culturally and politically at that moment in time I suppose.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
I moved away from Scotland before there was a Scottish parliament, and returned in 2010, and when I got engaged in politics up here I found that many in Labour were focusing their guns on the Nats more than I thought prudent or logical. It had become more tribal in my absence. When I was engaged in politics in the early 90s in Scotland, the Tories were the common enemy. Maybe that’s why I feel as if the Labour Party and automatic devotion to unionism (in the national sense) isn’t an inevitable natural state.
To be fair the quality of elected MPs to choose from is pretty dismal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Just what is the point of Therese Coffey?
https://youtu.be/ner40T3J6T8
To enable excess profit for private companies' shareholders.Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
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She makes other conservatives seem competent.Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
sickening, i mind that utter **** Rabb lying on the beach whilst this was on going kidding on his phone was off whilst human beings were desperate to escape the clutches of the Taliban, ******* should have been sacked immediately by that bare-faced lying **** Johnson
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#detestable
You’ll find the Starmer thread further down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kato
Useful addition at their many parties and likes a smokers evening?Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
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Watching Dominic Raab's pan getting redder by the second on GMTV as he's questioned. Not through embarrassment.
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The throbbing vein in his forehead is concerning. It seems ready to burst out of his cranium at any moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kato
I should screenshot the start compared to the end. Visible anger building up.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
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https://twitter.com/janemerrick23/st...dxJXScFNwz8V4A
Sunak filling his pockets with our money.
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Should be big news but we're so used to their profiteeringQuote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Currently taking questions in the house. Total prick.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kato
Interesting PMQs. Rayner up first, stumbles on her delivery but came across as incisive if a bit nervous. Raab more assured in his delivery but the actual substance coming out of his mouth was ill conceived. Blaming the delay of rape cases making it to court merely on Covid looked particularly bad. Probably needs a lie down after his hammering in the tv studios earlier. It’s still weird seeing shriveled up little Jambo Ian Murray on the opposition front bench next to the grownups.
Paul O'grady on the tories
https://mobile.twitter.com/shockproo...77624108261385
perfectly understandable an individual who donates to a far-right political party in Germany should also donate to a far-right political party in Britain
Tory private members’ club pockets £50k from alleged far-right German donor - Good Law Project
This might be one worth keeping an eye on, to see what emerges
https://www.theguardian.com/society/...fits-sanctions
Early sense is that the U.K. government’s own research will say that benefit sanctions don’t work and usually made things worse.
Saying that, I’m sure research could establish that about most if not all of this UKG’s policies...
It's not working usually = double down. Then say they aren't communicating the message clearly enough or some other such gaslighting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mibbes Aye
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Tou will love this one then, from one of the loyal lieutenants in the Rishbunker. Seemingly the best way to stop migration is to behave just like a people-smuggling gang.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kato
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...robert-jenrick
I saw Jenrick on TV a few weeks ago. Whilst he looks perfectly affable, 99% of what he said was a cold soup of dog whistles, manufactured moral panics and croutons of loathsome bile.
they're a shower of Gangsters, crooked corrupt immoral Gangsters
Ex-standards chief said Tory MP backed her into corner and warned ‘watch your back’ (msn.com)
#Detestabletories part 4538743984290
nice seeing such a low confidence in the press in the UK(13%), and a higher percentage having more confidence in the EU than the UK Parliament
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I think they are doing a good job of deterring educated people from wealthy countries from coming here.[emoji106]Quote:
Originally Posted by Mibbes Aye
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This is encouraging but I just hope it translates into action. The press are no different to 7 years ago, and yet they still seem to hold an extraordinary sway over politics, including voters who keep buying what they are selling.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
Question Time was actually interesting last night. A majority Tory audience appeared compassionate of Asylum Seekers, wanted social housing built and were scathing of the cuts to social services etc. They were almost mocking the Tory on teh panel and at no point did I think they believed a word he was saying. Fiona Bruce even challenged him a couple of times so she much be fearful of her job after her recent performances. It actually restored my faith in the electorate. Perhaps there is a bit of common sense and compassion left in your average voter
I doubt there is a newspaper in the UK that has been making money over the last 10 years and yet they all survive. Shows the value they have to their owners is more than financial.Quote:
Originally Posted by neil7908
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I think when considering the value of the media you need to add the revenue they make from their online presence. Income from subscriptions and advertising will go a considerable way to making up for loss from printed publications.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
I'd like to see them all going down the tubes but I doubt it will happen.
Just to be clear, you would like all newspapers to close?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack
I don't like the way any of them are run at the moment and I can't see that changing anytime soon. I'd like to see a reset but what I would like is neither here nor there.Quote:
Originally Posted by archie
The huge and continuing decline in circulation numbers suggests I'm not alone although I'm unsure how online is working out.
I don't know where these figures come from and so cannot vouch for their veracity:
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Up to date daily circulation figures in Scotland for Scottish newspapers.
Daily Record - 59,615
Sunday Mail - 56,866
The Herald - 12,928
Herald on Sunday - 6,679
The Scotsman - 8,762
Scotland on Sunday - 4,921
Sunday Post - 35,183
The National - 3,555
Sunday National - 4195
The top online subscriptions are the guardian and FT who have 1 million subscribers. Think the torygraph was about 400k the times 300k and the sun 200kQuote:
Originally Posted by Jack
Big but a fraction of what the newspapers used to sell.
Have you noticed how we needed a referendum to join and leave the EU but the Tories joined us into the CPTPP without even a vote in Parliament?
For the last few days I've had close insight and interaction with the media and to say they as a group are a strange bunch is a massive understatement. With the exception of a very small group of individuals I've never had the displeasure of working with such an obnoxious, egotistical, moaning faced and greedy bunch of ******s in my life. The problems are not just at the top of the media branch, it filters down like diarrhoea all the way to the bottom.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack
I don’t think that’s a question with any value, since it clearly isn’t going to happen and Jack has no power to make it so.Quote:
Originally Posted by archie
A better question is does the media contribute positively to our national culture? My pseudo Marxist take is that it’s a device to keep the rich and powerful in power by limiting the parameters of debate and dumbing down culture. Consumption over the internet means content is ever more hysterical and divisive because the psycho analytics show that’s what people click on. They would argue they are just reflecting what the public want.
Well thanks for the critique!Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
Apologies, late edit. I had a deadline for my editor :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by archie
"Integrity, professionalism and accountability"?
Or
"April fools"?
You decide.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FslH427W...g&name=900x900
Led By Donkeys 5 parter on YouTube on MPs for hire. Kwateng and Hancock are still representing their constituents after this and seem totally unrepentant.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HzvmeDcoXRY
Nazi chat.
https://twitter.com/SophyRidgeSky/st...oEHpuco6g&s=19
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It’s what decent teachers warned us about in modern studies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kato
https://ec.europa.eu/programmes/erasmus-plus/project-result-content/3a1f33a0-e094-45fd-a7f0-0d5fe29f8d5e/STAGES%20OF%20THE%20HOLOCAUST.pdf
Modi playing a very similar game in India, interestingly. “All those <insert ethnic group to demonise> are all after raping your women” has been a fascist trope since, well, ever.
The only difference between her and Goebbels messaging on this is that his Reich Ministry of Enlightenment and Propaganda hadn’t just released a study making clear child grooming and exploitation is on the rise across ALL groups and ethnicity is unimportant to the debate, as the Home Office has done.
I’m delighted Starmer is making this exact point about it not being an ethnicity issue, on LBC now.
Yeah, it's not a race problem, it's a problem with men.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
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There seems to be a particular problem with white British men trying to get their hands on young Ukrainian women these days from what I can see. Certainly lots of online advertising to that effect.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kato
Snide
https://twitter.com/carolvorders/sta...9FvV5PCAw&s=19
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It's not just them on twitter. I noticed an English local Councillor had been in some sort of scandal last week. I can't remember if it was sex or money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kato
There was no mention in the original article which party he was a member of and pages of Google searching didn't bring it up either; plenty on him just no party mentioned which I thought was odd. I ended up searching for his election result on the Council website. You'll never guess what? He was a tory!
If similar is happening elsewhere in the media it would suggest something much more sinister than a few MPs being less than transparent.
All of the tories standing in our local council elections have no evidence they are standing as Tory candidates in their literature, ones even printed in black and white only whereas previously it was all union Jack's and blue in evidence.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack
Going to get routed anyway as managed to abstain in a vote to keep the only swimming pool in his own constituency open to stay onside with the tory dominated district councils wishes.
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https://youtu.be/709umiILhso
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"Legal routes for asylum"
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fs3AlqbX...g&name=900x900
Conservative MP's are now removing any mention of being Conservative MP's from things like Twitter bio's and other Social Media and distributing leaflets that look suspiciously green.