St Mirren vs Hibernian

[Callum_62]

Two in the league, both times getting his head on a corner. Won the penalty against Rangers as well with a late run in to the box. As I say, he’ll go and get on the end of things but we need more than that in that position IMO.I was talking about Manneh

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[Donegal Hibby]

It’s exactly the type of game Campbell shouldn’t be playing. He’s useless against stuffy teams. We really need some creativity in there, he just doesn’t have it.

A point away to St Mirren is not the worst in isolation but harder to accept when we didn’t really turn up.

Disagree , in a game that’s a physical battle Campbell is exactly the type of player you want in the team .. if we had a more creative player like Levitt in today between them being the type of team they are , the pitch … i think we’d have probably been worse worse off .

[B.H.F.C]

I was talking about Manneh

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So you were. Know nothing about him really, but reading about him when he came in he didn’t strike me as being the answer in that more advanced position.

[Shrekko]

Campbell will get on the end of things now and again but the lack of creativity from that position when in possession makes us too predictable.

At the risk of upsetting his fans I’ve got to agree with that. He’s living off his good wee run over Xmas. We all know he has niche qualities but if he’s going to be playing 90 minutes every week his lack of quality on the ball is going to be an issue when he’s not producing the things he’s good at regularly.

If you’re Russell Latapy or Scott Allan and being consistently productive we can ignore the flaws in your game but that’s not the case here. Absolutely amazed he seems to be a nailed on starter.

[He's here!]

They’re just rewording their thoughts, regardless of the facts in front of them … “yes, they didn’t win” some there would express on a day like this. Pretty sure there’s no hearts bias at bbc scotland though 🙄

You'd think Hearts had won, judging by the BBC report on the their game today. 'Hearts even scored two of Rangers' goals'.

[B.H.F.C]

At the risk of upsetting his fans I’ve got to agree with that. He’s living off his good wee run over Xmas. We all know he has niche qualities but if he’s going to be playing 90 minutes every week his lack of quality on the ball is going to be an issue when he’s not producing the things he’s good at regularly.

If you’re Russell Latapy or Scott Allan and being consistently productive we can ignore the flaws in your game but that’s not the case here. Absolutely amazed he seems to be a nailed on starter.

I think it’s just down to lacking options in that area. I’ve said it already, but would have been a priority to do something about it in the window for me.

I think Campbell has done ok over the last couple of months but we were screaming out for someone capable of getting on the ball in that area. Similar at Ayr.

[Tambo]

I have been in the midst of moving house the past few days, doing some last bits today so missed the last 20 minutes.

A bit of a scrappy game which was lacking some quality on the day, could have done with the 3 points and if we can somehow get something out of next week's game and results go out way we can push on again.

[Tyler Durden]

Not heard that, where did you hear/see it. Hopefully moving from rented to buying in the Edinburgh area if true

Rocky was interviewed after the game as MOTM.

He was basically saying if you move teams then you move house and there is upheaval etc. They asked if staying at Hibs was in his thoughts and he said “Yes - of course.”

[TrinityHFC]

I have been in the midst of moving house the past few days, doing some last bits today so missed the last 20 minutes.

A bit of a scrappy game which was lacking some quality on the day, could have done with the 3 points and if we can somehow get something out of next week's game and results go out way we can push on again.

Agree. Apparently Ross Co away was a disaster dropping points and we couldn’t do that if we wanted to be 3rd. Here we are weeks later and closer to 3rd than we were then.

[Shrekko]

Agree. Apparently Ross Co away was a disaster dropping points and we couldn’t do that if we wanted to be 3rd. Here we are weeks later and closer to 3rd than we were then.

We still have both the Old Firm to play twice (hopefully) - the opportunities are starting to get less and less.

In isolation an away draw isn’t a disaster but if we want to get where we’re hoping to be we need to start winning games like this.

[Paulie Walnuts]

I don't think that's remotely true. St Mirren are a tough side - particularly at home - as they've shown on many occasions this season. We have no divine right to victory. The players did not lack for effort - composure maybe, but St Mirren obviously set out not to allow us to play as we'd have liked. They had a little help from the ref as well towards the end - a period we maybe would have hoped to grab the spoils.

St Mirren have lost more than they’ve won at home this season.

[Fifeshirehibs]

With a paddi field for a pitch thought it was a day for our big guys to plough furrows myk, molotnikov,miller. Gosh McCart-Horse is an exciting signing in Gorgie.

[B.H.F.C]

We still have both the Old Firm to play twice (hopefully) - the opportunities are starting to get less and less.

In isolation an away draw isn’t a disaster but if we want to get where we’re hoping to be we need to start winning games like this.

That’s how I see it. 12 to play and I reckon we need to win at the least half of them, possibly more, if we want to get up in to 3rd. I just have my doubts that we’ll manage to win the number of games to push on enough. I know form is relevant but to go from winning 8 out of 26 to nearly doubling that number of wins over your last 12 games would be some effort.

[Donegal Hibby]

St Mirren have lost more than they’ve won at home this season.

They have also beat hertz , Aberdeen and Sevco there though… bottom line is there’s a few grounds we will go to where we aren’t going to see free flowing football due to the teams being physical or having bad pitches .. Killie and St Mirren are two of them .

[Stuart93]

How bad was Bowie when he came on today as well? He’s not long back from a bad injury but expect a lot more from him when he’s coming on than he gave us today

[B.H.F.C]

How bad was Bowie when he came on today as well? He’s not long back from a bad injury but expect a lot more from him when he’s coming on than he gave us today

I didn’t think he was particularly different to anyone else in an attacking sense. My mate said during the first half that it was like we were set up in a way where we were just hoping the forwards would do something. Service to them was pretty non-existent and we lacked ideas other than chuck a cross in or lump it up the channels and hope they could make something of it.

[cubehindthegoal]

You'd think Hearts had won, judging by the BBC report on the their game today. 'Hearts even scored two of Rangers' goals'.

True 😂 Hearts won 3-1 today .. no fair they don’t get any points for it 😂

[BILLYHIBS]

Paul Daniels greetin on the radio about the stats in his sides 1-3 defeat to The Rangers the only stat that matters is goals scored

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[cubehindthegoal]

St Mirren have lost more than they’ve won at home this season.

Another thought, I remember the last league game in Paisley … lost 3-0 … playing very poor … after the league cup qualification from group, which included a loss at Kelty too ..

… we are now better than then, aren’t we ?

[JimBHibees]

How bad was Bowie when he came on today as well? He’s not long back from a bad injury but expect a lot more from him when he’s coming on than he gave us today

Don’t think he was that bad service was poor and he should have got a few fouls for him. Clearly ignored by the ref bizarrely

[cubehindthegoal]

How bad was Bowie when he came on today as well? He’s not long back from a bad injury but expect a lot more from him when he’s coming on than he gave us today

He’ll prove you wrong. All needs said.

[JohnM1875]

How bad was Bowie when he came on today as well? He’s not long back from a bad injury but expect a lot more from him when he’s coming on than he gave us today

Think its a wee bit unfair to expect much from him. Been out with a serious injury for a good while now and still feeling his way back in.

Just wish he'd pass a bit more. Same complaint I have with Boyle. Pass and move. Its basics.

[JimBHibees]

Think its a wee bit unfair to expect much from him. Been out with a serious injury for a good while now and still feeling his way back in.

Just wish he'd pass a bit more. Same complaint I have with Boyle. Pass and move. Its basics.

Thought Boyle was poor today in decent positions and miscontrolled two or three times and poor option near the end with left foot shot when others supporting. Wasn't great at Ayr either

[Crazyhorse]

That’s how I see it. 12 to play and I reckon we need to win at the least half of them, possibly more, if we want to get up in to 3rd. I just have my doubts that we’ll manage to win the number of games to push on enough. I know form is relevant but to go from winning 8 out of 26 to nearly doubling that number of wins over your last 12 games would be some effort.

TBH a couple of months ago being in the top 6 was a pipe dream. So finishing in the top six with chance of 4th after the split is gonna be a good season for me!

[The Modfather]

I didn’t think he was particularly different to anyone else in an attacking sense. My mate said during the first half that it was like we were set up in a way where we were just hoping the forwards would do something. Service to them was pretty non-existent and we lacked ideas other than chuck a cross in or lump it up the channels and hope they could make something of it.

I slightly fear that the 352 has been found out a little. All we want to do is work it wide and put a cross in. If you can mark N Cadden and stop his supply you go a long way to blunting us. We’re still really solid defensively so even if that is the case we will have enough moments to win games, but draws could see us end up bottom 6 in the same fashion as last season.

It’s only a small criticism given the run we’re on, but like being wedded to 433 earlier in the season we now appear wedded to 352 in every scenario. Which does make sense given I can’t think of an alternative formation to suggest with our limited squad. I do hope to see signs of Gray developing and not one dimensional when it comes to sticking to formations come rain or shine. Though that’s a thought for the mid-long term and with the benefit of a few transfer windows.

[NC1875]

Agree. Apparently Ross Co away was a disaster dropping points and we couldn’t do that if we wanted to be 3rd. Here we are weeks later and closer to 3rd than we were then.

With less games to play to achieve 3rd no ?

[B.H.F.C]

I slightly fear that the 352 has been found out a little. All we want to do is work it wide and put a cross in. If you can mark N Cadden and stop his supply you go a long way to blunting us. We’re still really solid defensively so even if that is the case we will have enough moments to win games, but draws could see us end up bottom 6 in the same fashion as last season.

It’s only a small criticism given the run we’re on, but like being wedded to 433 earlier in the season we now appear wedded to 352 in every scenario. Which does make sense given I can’t think of an alternative formation to suggest with our limited squad. I do hope to see signs of Gray developing and not one dimensional when it comes to sticking to formations come rain or shine. Though that’s a thought for the mid-long term and with the benefit of a few transfer windows.

I’m not sure that’s so much the shape, more the personnel. Even if we were to change the shape I still think we’d be looking at the majority of our threat coming from out wide.

[The Modfather]

I’m not sure that’s so much the shape, more the personnel. Even if we were to change the shape I still think we’d be looking at the majority of our threat coming from out wide.

That’s fair, there’s not a lot of creativity or goals whatever permutation of midfield 3. Though if we want to be anything more than a functional solid team we should be using either Hoilett or Rudi (maybe Gayle or Youan behind Bowie and Boyle?) in place of playing Campbell every week.

[Paul1642]

With less games to play to achieve 3rd no ?

12 games to make up 4 points is nothing, especially with 1 - 2 games left against the teams we’re competing with. The number of games isn’t an issue yet, all that matters is our results, firstly to make sure we get into the top 6 and secondly once we’re in it.

Imo if we beat Dundee and St Johnstone at home and take 5 or 6 points from Killie away, Dundee United away and Hearts at home, we cruise into the top 6 and in a convincing position to push for 3rd in the final games.

Anything from the old firm is a bonus.

[cubehindthegoal]

12 games to make up 4 points is nothing, especially with 1 - 2 games left against the teams we’re competing with. The number of games isn’t an issue yet, all that matters is our results, firstly to make sure we get into the top 6 and secondly once we’re in it.

Imo if we beat Dundee and St Johnstone at home and take 5 or 6 points from Killie away, Dundee United away and Hearts at home, we cruise into the top 6 and in a convincing position to push for 3rd in the final games.

Anything from the old firm is a bonus.

If third was a target when we were kicking around bottom of the league for anyone, then they must feel we’ve found a way to make it come closer, surely. Just a thought like.

[Paul1642]

If third was a target when we were kicking around bottom of the league for anyone, then they must feel we’ve found a way to make it come closer, surely. Just a thought like.

Exactly. The fact we’re even talking about this rather than fearing relegation given the start we had is impressive in itself.

Achieving 3rd would be the biggest reversal in our fortunes from November - May since we managed to from 1st to 7th in 2012/13.

[cubehindthegoal]

Exactly. The fact we’re even talking about this rather than fearing relegation given the start we had is impressive in itself.

Achieving 3rd would be the biggest reversal in our fortunes from November - May since we managed to from 1st to 7th in 2012/13.

I don’t see it that way tbh. I see progress. Anyway… all good 👍

[blackpoolhibs]

Poor game on a shocking pitch against a team of hammer throwers and a corrupt very poor ref. All things considered it's a point but we should still should be beating a team like this, it only really shows how much of an overhaul we actually need when we're seeing players like Kwon playing. We still lack creativity and guile, the ball flying through the air far too much and no one putting their foot on the ball and dictating play, oh how I long for a Scott Allan type of player.

I agree the pitch was poor and the ref was a joke, but St Mirren hardly kicked us off the park?

The adapted better to the conditions, were strong in the tackle and were better than us with the ball.

We seemed to go with lumping the ball forward most of the time, only briefly using the midfield, although to be fair, Kwon and Campbell could have sat next to me the amount of times the contributed to passing the ball to another Hibs player.

We have something about us now that i've not seen for a while, we do battle for every ball, we dont have any slackers in the team, even if they are not playing well, which quite a few yesterday were, they put the effort in and do the hard work thats needed to compete.:top marks

[blackpoolhibs]

Just back, that was grim viewing.

Was never going to be a thing of beauty with the way St Mirren play or the pitch. Was disappointed with us though. Never really thought we showed enough intent or urgency to go and try and win the game at any point.

Campbell will get on the end of things now and again but the lack of creativity from that position when in possession makes us too predictable.

They played the game better than us, they at least tried to play football on the deck, it was us that played the ball long most of the game? :confused:

[B.H.F.C]

They played the game better than us, they at least tried to play football on the deck, it was us that played the ball long most of the game? :confused:

You think St Mirren tried to play football on the deck?

Il agree that we went long all game, far too much, but I didn’t see St Mirren trying to play football. It was a dreadful game all round, we got drawn in to it far too much.

[blackpoolhibs]

You think St Mirren tried to play football on the deck?

Il agree that we went long all game, far too much, but I didn’t see St Mirren trying to play football. It was a dreadful game all round, we got drawn in to it far too much.

In the main yes.

[Donegal Hibby]

If we are starting Josh Campbell when everyone is fit then we are not a side looking to play good football


Spot on, we are absolutely crying out for an attacking midfielder with a bit of quality and vision.

Opinions , eh ?

[Paul1642]

12 games to make up 4 points is nothing, especially with 1 - 2 games left against the teams we’re competing with. The number of games isn’t an issue yet, all that matters is our results, firstly to make sure we get into the top 6 and secondly once we’re in it.

Imo if we beat Dundee and St Johnstone at home and take 5 or 6 points from Killie away, Dundee United away and Hearts at home, we cruise into the top 6 and in a convincing position to push for 3rd in the final games.

Anything from the old firm is a bonus.

Definitely ahead of schedule 💚