What's the latest with Youan?

[Lago]

His big toe is still a bit sore.
Be OK in time for summer transfer window 🦶

[flash]

Newall and EKpiteta back in full training this week, no mention of Youan so presume he’s still not available to play.

He is starting full training tomorrow according to SDG.

[Coco Bryce]

He is starting full training tomorrow according to SDG.

Where did he say this?

[TrinityHFC]

Where did he say this?

“Elie’s been back on the grass the last few days, planning to train fully on Friday.”

[DaveF]

Wonder how long it'll take before he's involved in the match day squad?

[Greenbeard]

Wonder how long it'll take before he's involved in the match day squad?

Not toe long.

[007]

“Elie’s been back on the grass the last few days, planning to train fully on Friday.”

Can't he stick to snus like everyone else. 🤔

[Coco Bryce]

He took part in training about 2 weeks ago seemingly. Yet here we are...

[TrinityHFC]

He took part in training about 2 weeks ago seemingly. Yet here we are...

Yes and it was explained that he still wasn’t right and had to go for an injection.

Predictions were that he’d be back when the window closed. Yet another theory about him proven to be wrong.

[ehf]

Not toe long.

Single digits, for sure.

[CapitalGreen]

I am sure he flew out to see a specialist in Europe. Hopefully he is back in soon. I assume both he and hibs are playing it cautious as it would be a disaster for him to get a further injury that could keep him out beyond the summer.

He didn’t travel to Europe, he paid for a specialist he’d worked with previously to come over from France to help with his recovery.

[Eyrie]

He didn’t travel to Europe, he paid for a specialist he’d worked with previously to come over from France to help with his recovery.

That should end speculation about his willingness to play for us since he's willing to foot the bill for the specialist.

[hibsbollah]

That should end speculation.

Unfortunately i doubt it.

[Brightside]

He didn’t travel to Europe, he paid for a specialist he’d worked with previously to come over from France to help with his recovery.

He had someone cupping his toe. I really hope Hibs agreed that this was the correct thing to do, and if so why did he have to fly his own guy over for it?

[Bridge hibs]

He had someone cupping his toe. I really hope Hibs agreed that this was the correct thing to do, and if so why did he have to fly his own guy over for it?

Maybe the guy was the only toe cupper available

[Brightside]

Maybe the guy was the only toe cupper available

Maybe :greengrin

[DaveF]

He didn’t travel to Europe, he paid for a specialist he’d worked with previously to come over from France to help with his recovery.

No one in Scotland could help? The club staff unable to assist and he really needed someone he knew from abroad to fix this toe issue?

That's a niche injury.

[Paulie Walnuts]

No one in Scotland could help? The club staff unable to assist and he really needed someone he knew from abroad to fix this toe issue?

That's a niche injury.

Maybe someone he’s used before and trusted? Maybe had someone in Scotland take a look and they’ve not managed to sort it? Maybe Hibs have refused to pay for a second opinion and were insistent on using their guy so he’s paid for it himself?

[Lago]

Maybe the guy was the only toe cupper available
A toe cupper, interesting occupation :greengrin

[Pretty Boy]

A toe cupper, interesting occupation :greengrin

A lucrative one as well if what the guy who does my shoulder charges is anything to go by :greengrin

[BoomtownHibees]

A lucrative one as well if what the guy who does my shoulder charges is anything to go by :greengrin

Can’t you do your own shoulder charges?

[aljo7-0]

Can’t you do your own shoulder charges?
You'd need a pretty big cup by the sounds of it :greengrin

[superfurryhibby]

Yes and it was explained that he still wasn’t right and had to go for an injection.

Predictions were that he’d be back when the window closed. Yet another theory about him proven to be wrong.

Our resident complainers don't care, they just love posting utter nonsense.

[Lago]

Our resident complainers don't care, they just love posting utter nonsense.
Just a little light hearted fun at the ongoing will he, won't he saga :greengrin

[Hibiza]

Having deep - toe treatment , at the Spa .

[Booked4Being-Ugly]

I didn't realise toes were so problematic. I've now started wearing steel toe-capped boots to my bed for when i wake up during the night needing a p!ss,

[TrinityHFC]

I didn't realise toes were so problematic. I've now started wearing steel toe-capped boots to my bed for when i wake up during the night needing a p!ss,

I smacked my toes off some piece of furniture about 6 yrs ago and they’ve never been right since.

[Phil MaGlass]

Our resident complainers don't care, they just love posting utter nonsense.

Shut up or toe the line

[Ronniekirk]

I remember having a sore back while staying at a hotel near Stirling
Someone recommended I go to a wee oriental guy in Stirling who gave me cup therapy on my back Hexwas going so fast one fell on the floor and smashed as they were small glass things
He also gave me acupuncture and after he stuck the wee needles in he left me to go and deal with someone else
I fell asleep and the guy had forgotten all about me lol
But it worked

[Pescarese]

I didn't realise toes were so problematic. I've now started wearing steel toe-capped boots to my bed for when i wake up during the night needing a p!ss,

I wouldn't advise that. Every time I've woken up and found I still had my footwear on, I've felt awful. 🙃

[DH1875]

Celtic apparently after him.
Wait for it to come out in the press. Not like we are playing them anytime soon in a massive game and these stories come out to unsettled our squad.

[Brightside]

Celtic apparently after him.
Wait for it to come out in the press. Not like we are playing them anytime soon in a massive game and these stories come out to unsettled our squad.

It’s already been in the press and totally made up. Celtic and Wolfsburg. 😂

[04Sauzee]

Available for selection on Sunday

[Coco Bryce]

Sticking a tenner on him to get the winner...

With a toe poke in the 87th minute.

[Alfred E Newman]

Celtic apparently after him.
Wait for it to come out in the press. Not like we are playing them anytime soon in a massive game and these stories come out to unsettled our squad.

Bowie will be next on their list.

[theonlywayisup]

So, what's the latest?

Has SDG confirmed the latest?

Would have been good to see him today on the pitch.

[PHeffernan]

So, what's the latest?

Has SDG confirmed the latest?

Would have been good to see him today on the pitch.

Sprained eye lash

[DaveF]

So, what's the latest?

Has SDG confirmed the latest?

Would have been good to see him today on the pitch.

If he can't make the squad which has Newell and Cadden to come back in to then you can forget about seeing him again.

[B.H.F.C]

Wasn’t anything mentioned about him being injured when Gray did the press yesterday.

I’m no convinced we’ll see him in a Hibs top again.

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

Need him back and scoring before end of season if we want to see anything north of 1M in the summer imo

[BeansOnToast]

Posted this on another thread but seen him up in the west today, others not in the squad were there in hibs tracksuits, elie was just in normal attire. Not sure if that’s a man who’s given up or just doesn’t care anymore.

[JohnM1875]

Have to admit, I'm beyond caring. If he doesn't want to be here, which I'm sure he doesn't, then he won't be come this summer.

[TrinityHFC]

Posted this on another thread but seen him up in the west today, others not in the squad were there in hibs tracksuits, elie was just in normal attire. Not sure if that’s a man who’s given up or just doesn’t care anymore.

Or neither of those things?

[Jim44]

Total waste of space and money, no allegiance to Hibs whatsoever, no value to speak of in the transfer market, taking the piss and has probably, illegally, signed for another club. Forget him.

[Jim44]

Total waste of space and money, no allegiance to Hibs whatsoever, no value to speak of in the transfer market, taking the piss and has probably, illegally, signed for another club. Forget him.

[Cooshed Kid]

Total waste of space and money, no allegiance to Hibs whatsoever, no value to speak of in the transfer market, taking the piss and has probably, illegally, signed for another club. Forget him.

That's not all! I've heard that at night he turns into a cat and haunts the streets of Leith mewing loudly to disturb Hibs' supporters' sleep and making them imagine all sorts of nonsense is true.

[SickBoy32]

The guys chucked it. Terrible mentality and we’ll be well rid in the summer.

When he retires he’ll look back and realise we were the highlight of his career too. Kamberi-esque.

[Cooshed Kid]

The guys chucked it. Terrible mentality and we’ll be well rid in the summer.

When he retires he’ll look back and realise we were the highlight of his career too. Kamberi-esque.

That’s an excellent, evidence-free analysis. If it turns out to be true, so be it but just now you’re just dumping on him without any factual basis to support you. None of us know what is going on. What I do know, because I have seen it, is Elie has shown great joy in our victories even if he hasn’t played in them.

[Ribs1875]

Hopefully he's back for the split to give a solid account of himself. Then if offers are made in the summer transfer window, I think the club will cash in on him.

[Pretty Boy]

Every week they passes is a week less to get back up to speed and be in a position to contribute before the end of the season. He'll have been out over 3 months by the time the next game rolls around, cameo at Celtic Park excluded. He's not going to come back in at anything close to match sharpness, as we saw in the aforementioned game.

It would be a nice wee bonus if he could contribute anything in the next few weeks but I wouldn't be betting my house on it and I doubt Gray is building any plans around him. I'd think it's more likely we see very little to nothing of him in that time.

[The Modfather]

The hassle outweighs his contribution on the park over his time here IMO. I’ll be glad when he’s moved on in the summer and we sign a replacement that doesn’t come with the baggage Youan does. A good player on his day though.

[RIP]

The guys chucked it. Terrible mentality and we’ll be well rid in the summer.

When he retires he’ll look back and realise we were the highlight of his career too. Kamberi-esque.

His workmate in training and when playing has been praised by Gray on more than one occasion. I'd rather believe our Head Coach than a poster who makes stuff up.

But the absence of any good news on his recovery, his previous injury record and lack of contribution to our recovery leaves a vacuum and makes room for this sort of conjecture.

Gray has built a team out of players that five months ago most of us believed weren't good enough. At the moment, Youan isn't being missed.

Can't imagine any team being interested in someone who has had 2 injury spells in the same season. Sad to see.

[TrinityHFC]

The hassle outweighs his contribution on the park over his time here IMO. I’ll be glad when he’s moved on in the summer and we sign a replacement that doesn’t come with the baggage Youan does. A good player on his day though.

The hassle and baggage is completely in some of your heads though.

Should Joe Newell be getting the same sort of allegations of chucking it given his lack of availability?

[Dashing Bob S]

The hassle and baggage is completely in some of your heads though.

Should Joe Newell be getting the same sort of allegations of chucking it given his lack of availability?

Agreed.

[The Modfather]

The hassle and baggage is completely in some of your heads though.

Should Joe Newell be getting the same sort of allegations of chucking it given his lack of availability?

The baggage is things like posting pictures of Lee Johnson, arguing with fans, getting into petty spats with Bartley, being out since boxing day bar a brief cameo v Celtc. That’s all just this season, while he sits on 2 goals and 1 assist.

I’m not sure what relevance Newell being injured has to this discussion.

[Nicho87]

I’ve wrote Youan off for hibs now.

Can’t rely on him

I think the farewell game was a good one at tynie.

Thanks for the memories but now best for all parties involved we call it a day.

[CapitalGreen]

The baggage is things like posting pictures of Lee Johnson, arguing with fans, getting into petty spats with Bartley, being out since boxing day bar a brief cameo v Celtc. That’s all just this season, while he sits on 2 goals and 1 assist.

I’m not sure what relevance Newell being injured has to this discussion.

2 players who can’t get/stay fit enough to impact the first team. The team has moved on in their absence and as such they should be moved on in the summer?

[hibsbollah]

The baggage is things like posting pictures of Lee Johnson, arguing with fans, getting into petty spats with Bartley, being out since boxing day bar a brief cameo v Celtc. That’s all just this season, while he sits on 2 goals and 1 assist.

I’m not sure what relevance Newell being injured has to this discussion.

Being injured isn't 'baggage'.
Bartley has morphed into a trolling prick since he became a pundit.
Lee Johnson? I thought we were talking recently?
The analogy with Joe was spot on. Different standards being applied.

[SickBoy32]

His workmate in training and when playing has been praised by Gray on more than one occasion. I'd rather believe our Head Coach than a poster who makes stuff up.

But the absence of any good news on his recovery, his previous injury record and lack of contribution to our recovery leaves a vacuum and makes room for this sort of conjecture.

Gray has built a team out of players that five months ago most of us believed weren't good enough. At the moment, Youan isn't being missed.

Can't imagine any team being interested in someone who has had 2 injury spells in the same season. Sad to see.

Nothing made up there 👍

Aye it’s always surprising when a manager doesn’t publicly question the work ethic / desire / commitment of a player they’ll be looking to sell…

Shame for all parties, as given the improvement in a number of our players over the course of the season under SDG - it would’ve been interesting to see what he could’ve done with Youan

[The Modfather]

2 players who can’t get/stay fit enough to impact the first team. The team has moved on in their absence and as such they should be moved on in the summer?

I’m no great fan of Newell, but wasn’t he playing through injury and had to have an operation to fix the injury? I’m not sure Newell’s commitment to the cause can be questioned.

Youan has been out since Boxing Day. Firstly with an injury that Gray was surprised was taking so long to heal, that scans didn’t show anything and the type of injury that he could come in feeling fine the next day. Here we are going into April and it’s still unclear what Youans latest injury is.

I think it’s a poor equivalence with Newell IMO.

[eastmainsmsh]

There’s been a delay in delivery of his toe clippers on Wish

[He's here!]

I've not been following this closely. Is the consensus that he's not really injured but is in the huff about not getting a move in January? Would the club not call this out if so?

On his day he's a great asset and capable of skills nobody else at ER has in their locker, but what's interesting is how well we've done without him.

[Hibees1973]

Hope makes a good number of appearances between now and the end of the season and has a real impact.

Could be the difference between 3rd or 6th.

If he doesn't his transfer value is reducing and is of no good to all parties.

[B.H.F.C]

I’m no great fan of Newell, but wasn’t he playing through injury and had to have an operation to fix the injury? I’m not sure Newell’s commitment to the cause can be questioned.

Youan has been out since Boxing Day. Firstly with an injury that Gray was surprised was taking so long to heal, that scans didn’t show anything and the type of injury that he could come in feeling fine the next day. Here we are going into April and it’s still unclear what Youans latest injury is.

I think it’s a poor equivalence with Newell IMO.

When Gray does his press, and his Hibs TV interview, on a Friday he is always asked about player availability. Kilmarnock game and, again this weekend, he hasn’t mentioned Youan at all. If he was injured, I think he’d just say he was injured, same as is said with Newell. I don’t know what is going on but I’m pretty sure something is. I think we’ve probably seen the last of him in a Hibs top.

[Hibees1973]

When Gray does his press, and his Hibs TV interview, on a Friday he is always asked about player availability. Kilmarnock game and, again this weekend, he hasn’t mentioned Youan at all. If he was injured, I think he’d just say he was injured, same as is said with Newell. I don’t know what is going on but I’m pretty sure something is. I think we’ve probably seen the last of him in a Hibs top.

Much as none of us on here know what's going on, it does seem very odd Youan's extended absence.

Could it possibly be a contractual clause in that he is due a wage increase if he plays again. However, this would not explain the occasional sub bench place for Youan.

There are times in the last few weeks when his pace would have been very useful. Even replacing Boyle as substitute.

Mystery.

[InvertedFullBak]

we always seem then be having the same chat over this guy as every transfer window we always seem to have an issue with him. This winter he was injured every day except the last day when believe it or not if a bid come in a medical could be done. Soon as the window shuts , he’s back to being injured again.

Last summer he’s injured , fails to turns up for the last game at Livi and the poty awards gig at night. Arguing with fans on the socials and telling anyone at east mains who’ll listen that he can’t wait to leave.

The quicker losers like him are out the club the better.

[bingo70]

Was the subs bench not maybe just full yesterday and Youann never made the cut rather than him not being available for selection?

[The Modfather]

Was the subs bench not maybe just full yesterday and Youann never made the cut rather than him not being available for selection?

You would think if Youan was fit and available he’d have been on the bench instead of Rudi. Who seems to be on it to make up the numbers. Since the Aberdeen 3-3 game he’s been on the bench 11 times and played 4 minutes in the league. Plus 90 against Clyde.

[jeffers]

we always seem then be having the same chat over this guy as every transfer window we always seem to have an issue with him. This winter he was injured every day except the last day when believe it or not if a bid come in a medical could be done. Soon as the window shuts , he’s back to being injured again.

Last summer he’s injured , fails to turns up for the last game at Livi and the poty awards gig at night. Arguing with fans on the socials and telling anyone at east mains who’ll listen that he can’t wait to leave.

The quicker losers like him are out the club the better.

A medical he failed…

[EGL2000]

The guys chucked it. Terrible mentality and we’ll be well rid in the summer.

When he retires he’ll look back and realise we were the highlight of his career too. Kamberi-esque.

When he's on it and arsed he's a much better player than Kamberi could every wish. Think he could play a decent level higher than us if he wanted to be at the club.

[silverhibee]

I’m no great fan of Newell, but wasn’t he playing through injury and had to have an operation to fix the injury? I’m not sure Newell’s commitment to the cause can be questioned.

Youan has been out since Boxing Day. Firstly with an injury that Gray was surprised was taking so long to heal, that scans didn’t show anything and the type of injury that he could come in feeling fine the next day. Here we are going into April and it’s still unclear what Youans latest injury is.

I think it’s a poor equivalence with Newell IMO.

Maybe Youan has tried to play through injury and it has aggravated it even worse, I honestly can’t think why a player would not want to be on the park playing football, that’s what it’s all about for them so I’m not believing he has a fake injury.

[Thatdayinmay16]

The hassle and baggage is completely in some of your heads though.

Should Joe Newell be getting the same sort of allegations of chucking it given his lack of availability?

Miles off on Newell, consistently played through Injuries during his time at hibs.

Was told by hibs to go and get the surgery he required as we were going through a decent period which would give him the much needed time to heal.

Let's not forget his consistent professional attitude and his outstanding work in the community with younger fans/giving up his own personal time to visit young fans in hospital on a weekly basis and giving his Christmas day up for the last 2/3 years to help feed folk at ER.

Youan doesn't have an ounce of the professionalism Joe Newell has shown at his time as Captain and as a player of this club.

[RIP]

The hassle and baggage is completely in some of your heads though.

Should Joe Newell be getting the same sort of allegations of chucking it given his lack of availability?

This!

Imagine if any of you were injured / signed off your work and people were spraffing mince about you shirking and having a bad attitude.

Honestly, you would think that some posters wanted players to leave the club.

There were over 16,000 Hibs supporters there on Saturday so hopefully Elie and Joe are wise enough to understand that 5 or 10 keyboard fact inventors represents only a tiny part percentage of our fanbase

[DaveF]

This!

Imagine if any of you were injured / signed off your work and people were spraffing mince about you shirking and having a bad attitude.

Honestly, you would think that some posters wanted players to leave the club.

There were over 16,000 Hibs supporters there on Saturday so hopefully Elie and Joe are wise enough to understand that 5 or 10 keyboard fact inventors represents only a tiny part percentage of our fanbase

That's what you call blind loyalty.

I've had plenty of grumbles about Newell and his on field contributions but would never question his commitment or willingness to play.

I'd question Youn's commitment and willingness to play and have no problem in doing so.

I doubt we will see him again anyway so it's probably a waste of bandwidth even discussing him.

[hibsbollah]

Maybe Youan has tried to play through injury and it has aggravated it even worse, I honestly can’t think why a player would not want to be on the park playing football, that’s what it’s all about for them so I’m not believing he has a fake injury.

Another thought; In this day and age we’re supposed to be more aware of mental health. Its possible that any player could struggle for any number of reasons, im not saying its the case with Youan but in the absence of any news id rather just enjoy the teams success and Youan can contribute when hes ready.

[B.H.F.C]

That's what you call blind loyalty.

I've had plenty of grumbles about Newell and his on field contributions but would never question his commitment or willingness to play.

I'd question Youn's commitment and willingness to play and have no problem in doing so.

I doubt we will see him again anyway so it's probably a waste of bandwidth even discussing him.

Doubt you’re alone in thinking that. It’s certainly not just the thoughts of 5 or 10 key board warriors from conversations I had, firstly with people I was in the Hibs Club and secondly with folk around me at the game, on Saturday.

[WhileTheChief..]

Nothing made up there 👍

Aye it’s always surprising when a manager doesn’t publicly question the work ethic / desire / commitment of a player they’ll be looking to sell…

Shame for all parties, as given the improvement in a number of our players over the course of the season under SDG - it would’ve been interesting to see what he could’ve done with Youan

Exactly this.

We’ve have some proper gash players over the years but I don’t think I’ve ever heard our manager saying he’s moving them on for being crap.

It appears that Gray simply doesn’t rate him. Can’t blame him really.

[Since90+2]

We're a better team without him in it, so for that simple reason not really bothered if he moves on.

[1875M]

Anything over £1.5m in summer and I’d bite your hand off. Good player on his day but not reliable. Reinvest in squad.

[SHODAN]

I've never seen so many conspiracy theories regarding an injury.

[B.H.F.C]

Anything over £1.5m in summer and I’d bite your hand off. Good player on his day but not reliable. Reinvest in squad.

I think we’ll do well to get close to that now. Will be in to his last year and has made little contribution for a considerable period now (whatever the reasons for that).

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

Anything over £1.5m in summer and I’d bite your hand off. Good player on his day but not reliable. Reinvest in squad.

With his contract up next summer and inactivity this, we'll do we'll to see anything north of 1M imo

[NAE NOOKIE]

With his contract up next summer and inactivity this, we'll do we'll to see anything north of 1M imo

In all honesty Youan has played little part in our season, for good or bad, it's seriously got to the stage that I forget about him when wondering who will be on the bench, never mind the starting XI

On his day a super player, but how many 'his days' has he honestly had in the last two seasons? The absolute fact is that if he was to leave it would have no impact on us now, or going forward for that matter..... what is for sure, there is no way we will get anywhere near a million quid for him, in fact half a million would be good going and if anybody want's to offer it we should bite their hand off.

If he stays I'll want him to live up to his undoubted potential and be delighted if he does ..... sadly that's looking more and more like a long shot.

[Since90+2]

In all honesty Youan has played little part in our season, for good or bad, it's seriously got to the stage that I forget about him when wondering who will be on the bench, never mind the starting XI

On his day a super player, but how many 'his days' has he honestly had in the last two seasons? The absolute fact is that if he was to leave it would have no impact on us now, or going forward for that matter..... what is for sure, there is no way we will get anywhere near a million quid for him, in fact half a million would be good going and if anybody want's to offer it we should bite their hand off.

If he stays I'll want him to live up to his undoubted potential and be delighted if he does ..... sadly that's looking more and more like a long shot.

I actually think we are slightly overplaying how good he is when is on his game. Yes, he has been effective at times in games but I don't remember ever thinking after a game he was absolutely sensational and tore the opposition to shreds throughout the game.

He has done well at times in games and looked dangerous in periods, but I personally don't feel he is as talented as some posters are making out even when he is on it.

[WhileTheChief..]

Our best run of form in decades coincides with Youan and Newall absent from the team.

Just saying 😜

[PHeffernan]

With his contract up next summer and inactivity this, we'll do we'll to see anything north of 1M imo

Yeah, it appears he's pumped us as he did his previous club.
They were happy to jettison him for 700k despite his considerable talent.
Youan, he does what he wants.

Reminds me of a mate who took up with a very tidy woman who did the dirty on her previous partner to be with him. My mate was very pleased with his new lady but all I could think was, she will do the same to you. 3 years later she did the dirty on him. Like Youan, entirely predictable.

[Joe6-2]

I've never seen so many conspiracy theories regarding an injury.

maybe if we were informed wtf is going on with him there wouldn’t be

[BILLYHIBS]

I actually think we are slightly overplaying how good he is when is on his game. Yes, he has been effective at times in games but I don't remember ever thinking after a game he was absolutely sensational and tore the opposition to shreds throughout the game.

He has done well at times in games and looked dangerous in periods, but I personally don't feel he is as talented as some posters are making out even when he is on it.

Apart from doubles against Celtic Hearts Motherwell Livvy and an excellent assist for Boyle on his debut that earned us a point against them but yes agree it is time to forget about Elle

[Brightside]

He will be away on a free if he doesnt play the rest of the season.

[HFC93]

He will be away on a free if he doesnt play the rest of the season.

He has another year left on his contract so I'd be surprised if that happened.

[Brightside]

He has another year left on his contract so I'd be surprised if that happened.

the guy need to play. If there is no sign of that this season I will be very surprised if Hibs stick with it.

[Hibees1973]

Yeah, it appears he's pumped us as he did his previous club.
They were happy to jettison him for 700k despite his considerable talent.
Youan, he does what he wants.

Reminds me of a mate who took up with a very tidy woman who did the dirty on her previous partner to be with him. My mate was very pleased with his new lady but all I could think was, she will do the same to you. 3 years later she did the dirty on him. Like Youan, entirely predictable.

Might be the very same lady I'm with.

She said she has made a few discretions in the past, but said she is a changed wuman and confessed her total devotion to me.

She was a bit late home last night mind and has this strange scratch on her back. :greengrin

[Since90+2]

Apart from doubles against Celtic Hearts Motherwell Livvy and an excellent assist for Boyle on his debut that earned us a point against them but yes agree it is time to forget about Elle

You do realise that wide players are meant to contribute with goals and assists? It's kind of what they are paid to do.

I don't think he's a bad player at all, but I just don't agree that he's some kind of superstar when on form, good yes but not some exceptional talent.

[BILLYHIBS]

You do realise that wide players are meant to contribute with goals and assists? It's kind of what they are paid to do.

I don't think he's a bad player at all, but I just don't agree that he's some kind of superstar when on form, good yes but not some exceptional talent.

21 goals from 95 appearances is no bad from a player forced to play wide when we all knew he was best played more direct and played centrally

All my jumbo Hearts chums are terrified of him and Celtic are one of the clubs interested in him ( allegedly) but for his own good he really needs to be playing or he is tomorrow’s chip paper wrapping

10 goals and 10 assists last season IIRC

Elle has everything if he could get his act together and start making the right decisions on the park he could definitely play at a higher level but time is running out it is up to him

[Hibs Go Bragh]

Mental to think that it seems like he’s been injured for near enough the whole season but he’s also managed to have a full blown argument with the fans and be dragged away from the F5 (can’t remember the game) and also run riot with his shirt around the corner flag at Pittodrie and Tynie which are 2 of the best images from this season.

It’s always eventful with Elie 😂

[Since90+2]

21 goals from 95 appearances is no bad from a player forced to play wide when we all knew he was best played more direct and played centrally

All my jumbo Hearts chums are terrified of him and Celtic are one of the clubs interested in him ( allegedly) but for his own good he really needs to be playing or he is tomorrow’s chip paper wrapping

10 goals and 10 assists last season IIRC

Since when have Celtic been interested in him?

I don't think he's better centrally personally. He's not good enough with his back to goal to play that position, one thing he does have is pace but his final ball and overall control of the ball are not that of a top level player IMO.

[Rumble de Thump]

Yeah, it appears he's pumped us as he did his previous club.
They were happy to jettison him for 700k despite his considerable talent.
Youan, he does what he wants.

Reminds me of a mate who took up with a very tidy woman who did the dirty on her previous partner to be with him. My mate was very pleased with his new lady but all I could think was, she will do the same to you. 3 years later she did the dirty on him. Like Youan, entirely predictable.

Doesn't make any sense. His previous club loaned him to us with an option to buy. We triggered the option to buy him.

[BILLYHIBS]

Since when have Celtic been interested in him?

I don't think he's better centrally personally. He's not good enough with his back to goal to play that position, one thing he does have is pace but his final ball and overall control of the ball are not that of a top level player IMO.
Allegedly I said cannae mind where I read it but recently

Please see my finished post re decision making could be playing for France :greengrin

Cut through the Hearts central defence at Tiny like a knife through butter scoring twice and Celtic at ER in the 4-2 scoring twice Easy

His ball control is exceptional a tricky dribbler he doesn’t know what he is going to do next a lot worse I can think of in the current Hibs team and his final ball is decent with 10 assists last season and 10 goals

[cameronw-hfc]

Our best run of form in decades coincides with Youan and Newall absent from the team.

Just saying 😜


Yes and no, both were a massive part in the beginning of the run, we've kept it going without them but both helped turn it around.

[Since90+2]

Allegedly I said cannae mind where I read it but recently

Please see my finished post re decision making could be playing for France :greengrin

Cut through the Hearts central defence at Tiny like a knife through butter scoring twice and Celtic at ER in the 4-2 scoring twice Easy

IMO if Celtic were genuinely interested in him he'd be a Celtic player. He'd have made it abundantly clear he wants to go and they have the finances to purchase him and pay his wages without blinking.

Saying all that I do think he's a good player on his day, I just don't think he's as talented as others.

[BILLYHIBS]

IMO if Celtic were genuinely interested in him he'd be a Celtic player. He'd have made it abundantly clear he wants to go and they have the finances to purchase him and pay his wages without blinking.

Saying all that I do think he's a good player on his day, I just don't think he's as talented as others.

Sorry edited my post again

Let’s wait and see where he ends up

Oh ! And I didn’t make it up

https://www.si.com/onsi/soccer/celtic/news/celtic-interested-signing-player-scottish-rivals

[SickBoy32]

Doesn't make any sense. His previous club loaned him to us with an option to buy. We triggered the option to buy him.

Think the poster was more meaning that he left his previous club under a cloud, and he looks a certainty to do the same with us.

Genuinely struggle to think of any other past Hibs player with as poor an attitude / mentality as Youan.

We’ll do very well to even recoup our initial outlay on him at this point.

[Rumble de Thump]

Think the poster was more meaning that he left his previous club under a cloud, and he looks a certainty to do the same with us.

Genuinely struggle to think of any other past Hibs player with as poor an attitude / mentality as Youan.

We’ll do very well to even recoup our initial outlay on him at this point.

Yet he didn't leave his previous club under a cloud. And the idea he has a poor attitude at all is made up nonsense.

[Hibiza]

Probably time Elie left and takes his sore toe too.

[leith lynx]

Allegedly, sticky buns in for Elie.

[BILLYHIBS]

Allegedly, sticky buns in for Elie.

I thought I could smell a rat

[Billy Bunter 07]

Kamberi mkII.

Hopefully gone in the summer. Massive let down of a signing. Should be strolling games and make us millions. Probably the same reason he was loaned to us in the first place mind you.

[HoboHarry]

Allegedly, sticky buns in for Elie.

They don't have the cost of a bus fare to spend far less a fee for Youan.

[Centre Hawf]

He will be away on a free if he doesnt play the rest of the season.

No chance, we paid £700k for him. They'll be looking to get £1m at least to make it work financially. Even if there's no interest in him there would be no reason to let him go for zero with a year on his contract.

[BILLYHIBS]

No chance, we paid £700k for him. They'll be looking to get £1m at least to make it work financially. Even if there's no interest in him there would be no reason to let him go for zero with a year on his contract.
:agree:

We are a football club not a charity

Needs to start playing or he can sit in the Stand and rot

Up to him ?

All footballers want to play surely?

[Centre Hawf]

:agree:

We are a football club not a charity

Needs to start playing or he can sit in the Stand and rot

Up to him ?

All footballers want to play surely?

If it all got toxic enough then we could potentially take a cut price with a decent sell on to try and make something back further down the line to save everyone's blushes a bit, but with a year left on his deal he can either do the square route of nothing for what will be 1.5 seasons going into probably his most important phase of his career and needing to sort a move. Or he can knuckle down and get something much bigger and better after giving us the best season of his time here so far. The choice is really his as you say.

[BILLYHIBS]

If it all got toxic enough then we could potentially take a cut price with a decent sell on to try and make something back further down the line to save everyone's blushes a bit, but with a year left on his deal he can either do the square route of nothing for what will be 1.5 seasons going into probably his most important phase of his career and needing to sort a move. Or he can knuckle down and get something much bigger and better after giving us the best season of his time here so far. The choice is really his as you say.

SDG knows his attitude state of mind and injury situation :greengrin

If someone makes us an acceptable offer in the close season who knows ?

Simplest solution is he starts Saturday and puts a hat-trick past the Hun and their dodgy goalie :greengrin

Win win

[Centre Hawf]

SDG knows his attitude state of mind and injury situation :greengrin

If someone makes us an acceptable offer in the close season who knows ?

Simplest solution is he starts Saturday and puts a hat-trick past the Hun and their dodgy goalie :greengrin

Win win

Would certainly go some way to getting himself back in the good books with everyone again :top marks

[blackpoolhibs]

SDG knows his attitude state of mind and injury situation :greengrin

If someone makes us an acceptable offer in the close season who knows ?

Simplest solution is he starts Saturday and puts a hat-trick past the Hun and their dodgy goalie :greengrin

Win win

I'd have thought that was vitually impossible concidering his fitness level, even if his toe has fully healed, he's not played in months bar the one fleeting moment.

I'd actually forgotten he was still at the club.

[theonlywayisup]

I actually think we are slightly overplaying how good he is when is on his game. Yes, he has been effective at times in games but I don't remember ever thinking after a game he was absolutely sensational and tore the opposition to shreds throughout the game.

He has done well at times in games and looked dangerous in periods, but I personally don't feel he is as talented as some posters are making out even when he is on it.

Yes, I agree.

I'd describe him as a frustrating exceptionally talented (in terms of the SPFL) individual. In games, he does things that not many in the Scottish game can do, but he does it far too infrequently IMO.

I recall the game away to Aberdeen when just after we had gone 3-1 up and Aberdeen were trying to get back into the game, we had at least two opportunities within a few minutes when the ball was cleared and we hit them on a fast breakaway. However, the ball was played to Youan, who should have either gone past the last defender or pass to another Hibs player who was in space, but sadly the opportunity was gone as Youan lost the ball on the edge of their box as he danced one way and then the other. To make matters worse, by the time he lost possession we had a number of players who had burst a gut trying to get forward for the pass only to be out of position to defend the resultant Aberdeen attack.

An exceptionally talented player, but I'd rather players who are of a lesser standard but more consistent in what they do on the pitch. For example, Nicky Cadden may not be as talented as Youan, but he's considerably more effective in this Hibs team.

[GreenCastle]

Elie Youan if you are reading this please finish your time at Hibs on a positive note.

There are 7 games left and we could do with your goals and trickery in the final 3rd.

Thank you :greengrin

[BILLYHIBS]

I'd have thought that was vitually impossible concidering his fitness level, even if his toe has fully healed, he's not played in months bar the one fleeting moment.

I'd actually forgotten he was still at the club.

Played the last 15 at Celtic in the Cup 9th of March the last throw of the dice

Looked off it admittedly but was not alone

His injury and absence is a mystery no doubt all will be revealed in the fullness of time

[Big_Franck]

I'd have thought that was vitually impossible concidering his fitness level, even if his toe has fully healed, he's not played in months bar the one fleeting moment.

I'd actually forgotten he was still at the club.

I had the same thought recently when I remembered Youan was still here, as he's contributed so little over recent months I do forget about him.

It doesn't help that when we get an injury update in the pre-match press conferences he normally isn't mentioned at all, so it's not clear at all what's up with him now. Contrast that to the updates that David Gray gives on Joe Newell's recovery and progress and the recent set back for example. Who knows when he'll return and if he'll contribute anything this season.

[theonlywayisup]

I had the same thought recently when I remembered Youan was still here, as he's contributed so little over recent months I do forget about him.

It doesn't help that when we get an injury update in the pre-match press conferences he normally isn't mentioned at all, so it's not clear at all what's up with him now. Contrast that to the updates that David Gray gives on Joe Newell's recovery and progress and the recent set back for example. Who knows when he'll return and if he'll contribute anything this season.

Yes, a bit odd really. Would be good if a journalist can ask the question "What's the latest with Youan? At what stage will Hibs fans see him playing on the football pitch?"

If I was Youan or his agent, I would be a bit annoyed by him not being selected, if he was fit. Or, the negative spin being spun about an allegedly minor injury (in some people's minds) keeping him out for so long. Surely, it's time for the club to give an update on what is one of our most creative players. Surprised a journalist hasn't asked the question yet.

[Northernhibee]

We’re simply not missing him.

[Hibbyradge]

Allegedly, sticky buns in for Elie.

Who's alleging that?

Do they realise that Elie is under contract for another year and the transfer window is a shut?

[worcesterhibby]

I just don’t think he fits are current playing style. Our front players worked incredibly hard, harassing StJohnstone players as soon as it was played out, didn’t give them a second. We consistently won the ball back high up the park because of the closing down. Elie just doesn’t work that hard.

ive said it before… he’s very talented.. but when he’s on the field BOTH teams are more likely to score. SDG likes clean sheets and hard workers.. Elie is lovely going forward and terrible without the ball.

[CapitalGreen]

We’re simply not missing him.

We’ve only won 1 league game away from home without him this season and since he got injured we have struggled to score away from home or even create much in the way of decent chances.

In the 4 away games before is injury we beat Motherwell, Aberdeen and Hearts scoring 8 goals.

In the 4 away games after his injury we failed to beat St Johnstone, Ross County and St Mirren in the league, scoring 2 goals.

The idea we haven’t missed him as an attacking option is nonsense.

[B.H.F.C]

I just don’t think he fits are current playing style. Our front players worked incredibly hard, harassing StJohnstone players as soon as it was played out, didn’t give them a second. We consistently won the ball back high up the park because of the closing down. Elie just doesn’t work that hard.

ive said it before… he’s very talented.. but when he’s on the field BOTH teams are more likely to score. SDG likes clean sheets and hard workers.. Elie is lovely going forward and terrible without the ball.

That wasn’t the case when he was playing up front early on in this run. Him and Boyle did that side of stuff brilliantly in the games at Pittodrie and Tynecastle. Doesn’t have the same level of defensive responsibility playing there.

One of the few areas I think we’ve lacked in during this run is a consistent partner for Boyle. As much as I think there is more to his absence than meets the eye, I’d also much rather that he was just available as a fit and focussed Youan would have been more than useful.

[flash]

Quotes from SDG regarding both Nicky Cadden and Youan in the Evening News.
Chance they could both be back on Saturday.
He's probably lying about Elie though who is presumably refusing to train never mind play.

[BILLYHIBS]

Youan could do with coming back on Saturday to put himself in the shop window for the remaining weeks to get the move he craves

The guy is a total enigma

[TrinityHFC]

Youan could do with coming back on Saturday to put himself in the shop window for the remaining weeks to get the move he craves

The guy is a total enigma

What do you know about what he ‘craves’?

He’s been injured and at a time where he was clearly contributing and enjoying being part of the team.

Anything else is just total nonsense. Interesting that Joe Newell doesn’t get the same sort of comments about his character despite having the same sort of prolonged injury beyond what we expected.

[BILLYHIBS]

What do you know about what he ‘craves’?

He’s been injured and at a time where he was clearly contributing and enjoying being part of the team.

Anything else is just total nonsense. Interesting that Joe Newell doesn’t get the same sort of comments about his character despite having the same sort of prolonged injury beyond what we expected.

Ellie Youan disnae want to be here it is well documented just need to check his social media he would love to get a move to a bigger club he didn’t even want to sign for us after the initial loan by all accounts his toe injury and absence is one of the great mysteries of the season

On the other hand Joe Newell loves it here wants to be here and is our Captain

Nothing would give me greater pleasure than Ellie showing us what he can do - please see my posts above praising his ability as a footballer - at the end of the day he will be gone at the first opportunity if someone is prepared to take a chance on him but the best thing he could do is to start selling himself in a Hibs jersey asap

SDG is hopeful he will be back Saturday so will have the perfect stage

[Donegal Hibby]

Ellie Youan disnae want to be here it is well documented just need to check his social media he would love to get a move to a bigger club he didn’t even want to sign for us after the initial loan by all accounts his toe injury and absence is one of the great mysteries of the season

On the other hand Joe Newell loves it here wants to be here and is our Captain

Nothing would give me greater pleasure than Ellie showing us what he can do - please see my posts above praising his ability as a footballer - at the end of the day he will be gone at the first opportunity if someone is prepared to take a chance on him but the best thing he could do is to start selling himself in a Hibs jersey asap

SDG is hopeful he will be back Saturday so will have the perfect stage

Moving to a bigger club , more loot , is that not what every player wants? If he didn’t want to sign for us after his initial loan then why did he ? He didn’t have to if it wasn’t what he wanted surely…

I really think there’s to many conspiracy theories about his injury in what does he have to gain in faking his injury or refusing to play etc .. surely if he’s wanting to move to a bigger club with all the benefits that brings , playing well , scoring and creating chances for us increases his chances of this , no ?

[BILLYHIBS]

Moving to a bigger club , more loot , is that not what every player wants? If he didn’t want to sign for us after his initial loan then why did he ? He didn’t have to if it wasn’t what he wanted surely…

I really think there’s to many conspiracy theories about his injury in what does he have to gain in faking his injury or refusing to play etc .. surely if he’s wanting to move to a bigger club with all the benefits that brings , playing well , scoring and creating chances for us increases his chances of this , no ?

We triggered the purchase element of the agreement

As I said needs to get back doing what he does best asap

Win win

[theonlywayisup]

I really think there’s to many conspiracy theories about his injury in what does he have to gain in faking his injury or refusing to play etc .. surely if he’s wanting to move to a bigger club with all the benefits that brings , playing well , scoring and creating chances for us increases his chances of this , no ?

Yes, I agree DH.

During the January transfer window I was in the "he's trying to manufacture a move away from Hibs" camp.

However, if so, surely he'd be desperate to play to show potential suitors what he can do.

To be honest, I've had enough of Youan. A frustrating, exceptionally talented (for the SPFL), but inconsistent footballer. I'd much rather a Nicky Cadden type player than a Youan.

[jakeshibs]

We’ve only won 1 league game away from home without him this season and since he got injured we have struggled to score away from home or even create much in the way of decent chances.

In the 4 away games before is injury we beat Motherwell, Aberdeen and Hearts scoring 8 goals.

In the 4 away games after his injury we failed to beat St Johnstone, Ross County and St Mirren in the league, scoring 2 goals.

The idea we haven’t missed him as an attacking option is nonsense.

Well said

[Not In The Know]

At Celtic in the cup he was giving it big kicks on the side of the pitch to get ready/warmed up to come on.

When he did I ran more than usual but was very rusty. TBH not sure what we can expect from him this season unless he starts getting game time asap.

[Springbank]

I just don’t think he fits are current playing style. Our front players worked incredibly hard, harassing StJohnstone players as soon as it was played out, didn’t give them a second. We consistently won the ball back high up the park because of the closing down. Elie just doesn’t work that hard.

ive said it before… he’s very talented.. but when he’s on the field BOTH teams are more likely to score. SDG likes clean sheets and hard workers.. Elie is lovely going forward and terrible without the ball.

Spot on

And the trouble for lazy show pony forwards is all top clubs operate this way & will have these same expectations of hard work from someone in Elie's position.

Im not calling Elie a lazy show pony but i am saying he would be well advised to showcase the hard working side of his game between now and end of May

[Libby Hibby]

Our best run of form in decades coincides with Youan and Newall absent from the team.

Just saying 😜

It’s not gone unnoticed where I live.

[theonlywayisup]

Spot on

And the trouble for lazy show pony forwards is all top clubs operate this way & will have these same expectations of hard work from someone in Elie's position.

Im not calling Elie a lazy show pony but i am saying he would be well advised to showcase the hard working side of his game between now and end of May

Yes, agree!

If I was to compare Youan with Luis Diaz at Liverpool, both, in terms of the league that they play, are exceptionally talented footballers. However, both can be inconsistent during matches, but capable of amazing skills. The big difference for me is work rate and consistency! When I watch Diaz, I'm really impressed by his desire to win back possession after he (or a teammate) has lost possession or to close down the opposition. Also, Diaz has more highs than lows, which I think is also linked to his work rate. His head never seems to go down, no matter how poor he's playing. With Youan, you don't know what you're going to get.

For the avoidance of doubt, Diaz is clearly a much better player than Youan. But if I was Youan, I'd use Diaz as my role model.

[Aldo]

I think I’ll trust SDG on this matter.

What I will say though is you always want your best players available however players need to earn the right to start or be in match day squad. As it stands I’m not sure he’s earned that right above anyone else in the current match day squad.

Just my opinion mind.

[BILLYHIBS]

Our best run of form in decades coincides with Youan and Newall absent from the team.

Just saying 😜

TBF Elie played in the 3-3 versus Aberdeen and played in subsequent wins against Ross County Motherwell Hearts and Aberdeen scoring twice only losing twice against Celtic away in our brilliant run

JN played in the 3-3 scoring once and in subsequent wins against Ross County Motherwell Hearts Aberdeen and Kilmarnock only losing out to Celtic away 0-3

We need them both back pronto

[Centre Hawf]

Our best run of form in decades coincides with Youan and Newall absent from the team.

Just saying 😜

Depends how you look at it. We actually haven't had a longer win run without Joe Newell than we have had with him this season. We won 4 games with Joe Newell starting and have only managed to do 3 on one occasion.

Could be argued a few of the silly draws at the likes of St Johnstone and County could have flipped with our captain still present.

[BILLYHIBS]

I think I’ll trust SDG on this matter.

What I will say though is you always want your best players available however players need to earn the right to start or be in match day squad. As it stands I’m not sure he’s earned that right above anyone else in the current match day squad.

Just my opinion mind.

Diaz and Salah have been brilliant this season but agree role models for everyone to look up to

[Joe6-2]

Yes, I agree DH.

During the January transfer window I was in the "he's trying to manufacture a move away from Hibs" camp.

However, if so, surely he'd be desperate to play to show potential suitors what he can do.

To be honest, I've had enough of Youan. A frustrating, exceptionally talented (for the SPFL), but inconsistent footballer. I'd much rather a Nicky Cadden type player than a Youan.

Any day of the week

[Joe6-2]

I think I’ll trust SDG on this matter.

What I will say though is you always want your best players available however players need to earn the right to start or be in match day squad. As it stands I’m not sure he’s earned that right above anyone else in the current match day squad.

Just my opinion mind.

Your opinion is spot on

[basehibby]

Elie Youan - the mystery within the enigma of East Mains.

Has he really been held back by the mysterious toe injury or has he taken the huff? The jury is out.

I certainly hope it's the former rather than the latter and that he gets back to fitness very soon because on his day he is an absolute joy to watch. If on the other hand, he's taken the huff for some reason it is extremely disappointing and I have zero sympathy. I know he's taken some flak online from some of the morons in our support but that is no excuse - he is a professional footballer getting paid handsomely to work his craft and he should be big and wise enough to know that one or two pathetic keyboard warriors are not representative of the Hibs support - who fully deserve to see every one of our players giving 100% for the team at all times regardless of their contract status or transfer speculation.

[Brooster]

TBF Elie played in the 3-3 versus Aberdeen and played in subsequent wins against Ross County Motherwell Hearts and Aberdeen scoring twice only losing twice against Celtic away in our brilliant run

JN played in the 3-3 scoring once and in subsequent wins against Ross County Motherwell Hearts Aberdeen and Kilmarnock only losing out to Celtic away 0-3

We need them both back pronto

I don't think we do actually. It's no coincidence that we are harder to beat without them in the team.

[hibsbollah]

I don't think we do actually. It's no coincidence that we are harder to beat without them in the team.

That might be exactly what it is, a coincidence. We don’t suddenly become rubbish if you put a fully firingYouan in instead of a Campbell or Myko, or Newell instead of a NMW or Levitt. Its just part of a rotation.

[easty]

I don't think we do actually. It's no coincidence that we are harder to beat without them in the team.

Are we harder to beat without them?

Newells last 7 games we beat Motherwell, Ross County, Aberdeen, Hearts, Killie. Draw with Aberdeen, lost to Celtc. Youan last 6 games were those less the Killie game.

[BILLYHIBS]

I don't think we do actually. It's no coincidence that we are harder to beat without them in the team.

Nah we won five on the bounce excluding Celtic away 0-3 with a Newell or a Youan in the team at the start of this great run they are welcome additions and don’t suddenly become bad players we have been starting to look stretched for cover recently with injuries so will need them in the final push for Europe the higher the finish the better

GGTTH

[Brooster]

Just my opinion of course. I think the players who replaced Youan and Newell work harder when we don't have the ball.

[BILLYHIBS]

Just my opinion of course. I think the players who replaced Youan and Newell work harder when we don't have the ball.

👍

[KeithTheHibby]

Personally couldn’t care less if Youan plays for Hibs again this season.
We haven’t needed him during the last few months and bar the odd bit of quality play when he was available we’ve been a better team without him.
He also takes ages to get up to speed when he does come back from ‘injury’ so happy to see the back of him and hopefully sold in the summer.

[CapitalGreen]

Personally couldn’t care less if Youan plays for Hibs again this season.
We haven’t needed him during the last few months and bar the odd bit of quality play when he was available we’ve been a better team without him.
He also takes ages to get up to speed when he does come back from ‘injury’ so happy to see the back of him and hopefully sold in the summer.

We didn’t need him when drawing with 10 man St Johnstone? or when we had McKirdy coming off the bench to try and get us a goal? or when we were starting games with Hoilett as a striker? Or when we failed to register a shot on target against St Mirren? We’ve only won 1 game away from home since his injury, we’re likely to have 4/5 games away from home before the end of the season.

[Thatdayinmay16]

We didn’t need him when drawing with 10 man St Johnstone? or when we had McKirdy coming off the bench to try and get us a goal? or when we were starting games with Hoilett as a striker? Or when we failed to register a shot on target against St Mirren? We’ve only won 1 game away from home since his injury, we’re likely to have 4/5 games away from home before the end of the season.

We've also lost 2 games in 20, why if we miss him so much are we on such a great run including 8 home wins out of the last 9?

Are you saying the games we drew that he'd have won for us? Come on eh.

Same folk who moan/moaned about Nisbet's attitude at hibs absolutely fawn over Elie Youan, it's bizarre.

[CapitalGreen]

We've also lost 2 games in 20, why if we miss him so much are we on such a great run including 8 home wins out of the last 9?

Are you saying the games we drew that he'd have won for us? Come on eh.

Same folk who moan/moaned about Nisbet's attitude at hibs absolutely fawn over Elie Youan, it's bizarre.

Our home results and performances have been excellent. Away from home we have often looked laboured and struggled offensively against mostly poor teams. I’ve no idea if he’d have won us those games. I do know he’d have been a much better option than McKirdy off the bench or starting Hoilett as a striker.

It’s not fawning over someone to suggest having your best attackers available would increase your chances of scoring goals and therefore winning games - it’s just common sense.

P.S. I’ve never moaned about Nisbet’s attitude at Hibs.

[B.H.F.C]

We've also lost 2 games in 20, why if we miss him so much are we on such a great run including 8 home wins out of the last 9?

Are you saying the games we drew that he'd have won for us? Come on eh.

Same folk who moan/moaned about Nisbet's attitude at hibs absolutely fawn over Elie Youan, it's bizarre.

As someone who isn’t Youan’s biggest fan, not because of ability, I absolutely think he’d have given us a better option in games. St Johnstone away, when we had to bring on Harry McKirdy for instance. Down at Kilmarnock when it was clear Boyle was burst but we didn’t have anyone else to bring on with any pace.

[HFC93]

If he has taken a huff, then it’s not really working out for him. We’re playing well and winning without him. He’s also not getting any exposure which will harm his chances of a big move. Strange one.

[Hibbyradge]

If he has taken a huff, then it’s not really working out for him. We’re playing well and winning without him. He’s also not getting any exposure which will harm his chances of a big move. Strange one.

What's strange is that people think he's taken the huff!

[He's here!]

Quotes from SDG regarding both Nicky Cadden and Youan in the Evening News.
Chance they could both be back on Saturday.
He's probably lying about Elie though who is presumably refusing to train never mind play.

Why wouldn't he just come out and say that this is the case? I'm unclear why he'd shield a player who's refusing to play.

If it's simply the case that the player has downed tools after failing to get a move in January then I see no reason for the club not to state that he's no longer part of the plans. You could argue that Gray doesn't want to introduce a negative vibe around what's been a hugely positive few months, but surely the rest of the players can't be happy about Youan's attitude if he really is just taking the p***.

Are there deeper issues behind the scenes that Gray would rather keep quiet?

[Thatdayinmay16]

Our home results and performances have been excellent. Away from home we have often looked laboured and struggled offensively against mostly poor teams. I’ve no idea if he’d have won us those games. I do know he’d have been a much better option than McKirdy off the bench or starting Hoilett as a striker.

It’s not fawning over someone to suggest having your best attackers available would increase your chances of scoring goals and therefore winning games - it’s just common sense.

P.S. I’ve never moaned about Nisbet’s attitude at Hibs.

We haven't "struggled", that would imply a lot of the away games we haven't been by far the better side.

St Johnstone away for example we battered them for 85 minutes, they went down to 10 men, scored a pen then sat deep for the remainder while we squandered chance after chance.

Killie away we absolutely battered them for the best part of 75 minutes, didn't defend our box and paid for it.

The less said about St Mirren away would be ideal, considering that game could still be ongoing and neither team would have scored.

[CapitalGreen]

We haven't "struggled", that would imply a lot of the away games we haven't been by far the better side.

St Johnstone away for example we battered them for 85 minutes, they went down to 10 men, scored a pen then sat deep for the remainder while we squandered chance after chance.

Killie away we absolutely battered them for the best part of 75 minutes, didn't defend our box and paid for it.

The less said about St Mirren away would be ideal, considering that game could still be ongoing and neither team would have scored.

I said we’d struggled offensively.

Missing chances is surely something that would be improved by having better attackers available. If you are battering teams but not scoring, where do you think the issue lies?

Since Youan’s injury, Hoilett, McKirdy and Myko have played ~500 minutes (over 8 hours) up front and collectively scored 1 goal.

[The Modfather]

I said we’d struggled offensively.

Missing chances is surely something that would be improved by having better attackers available. If you are battering teams but not scoring, where do you think the issue lies?

Since Youan’s injury, Hoilett, McKirdy and Myko have played ~500 minutes (over 8 hours) up front and collectively scored 1 goal.

Before Youan’s injury he had played 895 miniutes and only scored two goals. Isn’t this stats argument bald men fighting over a comb?

[Centre Hawf]

Youan is a pain but to suggest we haven't missed having him as an option in some circumstances is lunacy.

As other posters suggested even just bringing him on over McKirdy or starting up up front over guys who don't play there is alone going to give us a better chance of flipping some of the draws into wins. No one has a crystal ball and can say for sure he'd have done it for us but at the same time I know who I'd back to do something for us in those moments and it wasn't McKirdy.

[TrinityHFC]

Youan is a pain but to suggest we haven't missed having him as an option in some circumstances is lunacy.

As other posters suggested even just bringing him on over McKirdy or starting up up front over guys who don't play there is alone going to give us a better chance of flipping some of the draws into wins. No one has a crystal ball and can say for sure he'd have done it for us but at the same time I know who I'd back to do something for us in those moments and it wasn't McKirdy.
In what way is he a pain?

[CapitalGreen]

Before Youan’s injury he had played 895 miniutes and only scored two goals. Isn’t this stats argument bald men fighting over a comb?

No, I don’t think suggesting a player who has 40 goal contributions for the club would be a better option than McKirdy or Hoilett up front is comparable to bald men fighting over a comb.

[Donegal Hibby]

Elie Youan - the mystery within the enigma of East Mains.

Has he really been held back by the mysterious toe injury or has he taken the huff? The jury is out.

I certainly hope it's the former rather than the latter and that he gets back to fitness very soon because on his day he is an absolute joy to watch. If on the other hand, he's taken the huff for some reason it is extremely disappointing and I have zero sympathy. I know he's taken some flak online from some of the morons in our support but that is no excuse - he is a professional footballer getting paid handsomely to work his craft and he should be big and wise enough to know that one or two pathetic keyboard warriors are not representative of the Hibs support - who fully deserve to see every one of our players giving 100% for the team at all times regardless of their contract status or transfer speculation.

I’m not buying into the “ he’s taken a huff “ scenario , mainly because what’s to be gained by him doing so .If anything it would only be doing his chances of moving to a bigger club , better wages etc more harm than good …

He certainly didn’t look like a player in a huff after we beat hertz and he was celebrating with the fans waving the corner flag .

[Billy Bunter 07]

In what way is he a pain?

He’s not a pain, he’s a fantastic role model, brilliant asset to the club and is totally committed to us. There’s never been an issue with his attitude and he’s always given 100%.

Said nobody, bar you. And lo and behold anyone with a differing opinion. You have as much a clue as the rest of us as to the situation with the player yet you act like the guru on the matter.

[Centre Hawf]

In what way is he a pain?

Pain may be the wrong word to use, enigma might be the right one.

He's clearly on his day our best player. He can also be a total liability to have on the field at times. He comes off the park at Tynecastle celebrating like he doesn't want to be anywhere on earth but at Hibs, but the noise around the rest of his time is that he's wanting away. Then you get the mystery toe injury that some will debate the validity of. It's all just very dramatic at times and admittedly not all of it is brought on by him.

[superfurryhibby]

"Club captain Joe Newell is still working his way back to full fitness, while French forward Elie Youan is suffering from a “reaction” to playing in a bounce game during the international week. Youan has made just one appearance – as a late sub in that Scottish Cup loss at Celtic Park on March 9 – since limping out of the Boxing Day win over Hearts at Tynecastle with a toe injury.

Gray, reporting that the versatile attacker is also dealing with a “niggling knee problem”, is still positive that fans will see Youan back soon, possibly as early as this weekend, the gaffer saying: “We’ve built him back up again a little bit this week. But he has been a wee bit reactive in what he's been doing recently. So he's hopefully available for the weekend".


Can it simply not be that he's injured? The eagerness of some on here to launch into quite nasty speculation is prety shan really.

Can Youan's absence not be discussed with a wee bit of respect for a guy who the manager rates and likes, a guy who has done something in a Hibs shirt that's actually worth mentioning?

Football players get injuries, it's an occupational hazard.

[Smartie]

Whilst we have had little complain about lately, a constructive criticism I'd make is that we have occasionally toiled to break down stuffy teams away and seal wins. We can occasionally huff and puff and look a bit laboured.

I may not be Youan's greatest fan but there have been several occasions when we've looked like we've lacked exactly the sort of inspiration he can bring.

It might have been Lee Johnson who referenced "difference makers", I can't remember. That's exactly what Youan is and can be, a difference maker.

I'd rather have him in the squad than in the stand, put it that way. That's without papering over his flaws.

[flash]

Why wouldn't he just come out and say that this is the case? I'm unclear why he'd shield a player who's refusing to play.

If it's simply the case that the player has downed tools after failing to get a move in January then I see no reason for the club not to state that he's no longer part of the plans. You could argue that Gray doesn't want to introduce a negative vibe around what's been a hugely positive few months, but surely the rest of the players can't be happy about Youan's attitude if he really is just taking the p***.

Are there deeper issues behind the scenes that Gray would rather keep quiet?
Sorry I was being sarcastic.

[cameronw-hfc]

Both players were excellent and integral to our upturn in form. We're a better team when both are match fit and playing, the fact we've done so well without them is a testament to the rest of the squad, but doesn't take away from the fact JN in particular was brilliant during the first few games of our run.

Both play when fit and will improve us imo.

[B.H.F.C]

Both players were excellent and integral to our upturn in form. We're a better team when both are match fit and playing, the fact we've done so well without them is a testament to the rest of the squad, but doesn't take away from the fact JN in particular was brilliant during the first few games of our run.

Both play when fit and will improve us imo.

They both improve the squad I’d say. Whether they improve the team is a different question. There’s never really any downturn in results without Newell. Youan would have undoubtedly come up with a few moments over the course of times but would have been equally as likely to do very little in others. I would prefer he’d been available though.

[Big_Franck]

No mention of Youan again in David Gray's Rangers preview interview that Hibs have just uploaded to YouTube. Who knows if we'll see him at the weekend.

He said Nicky Cadden has trained all week and could be involved but that Joe Newell's had a set back. He mentioned the Newell setback before the last game, but from what Gray said in his interview there it doesn't sound like he'll be back soon.

[flash]

No mention of Youan again in David Gray's Rangers preview interview that Hibs have just uploaded to YouTube. Who knows if we'll see him at the weekend.

He said Nicky Cadden has trained all week and could be involved but that Joe Newell's had a set back. He mentioned the Newell setback before the last game, but from what Gray said in his interview there it doesn't sound like he'll be back soon.

Doubt it. He talked about him in his interview with Sky and next week seems more likely.

[Hibiza]

Probably a new sore toe : it's spreading.

[Hibiza]

Come back Nikki

[flash]

Come back Nikki

Dug got your phone again?

[hibee1875]

Starting to think we’ll never see Ellie again

[EGL2000]

You'd think some of the media would be asking no?

[Billy Bunter 07]

Cadden back is better news than could be anything about Youan these days anyway.

[Wilson]

Cadden back is better news than could be anything about Youan these days anyway.

What?

[Billy Bunter 07]

What?

The news that Nicky Cadden being back is better news than anything that could be news in relation to Youan these days.

[Pretty Boy]

I've no idea what the situation is with him but the fact he hasn't been mentioned in the last couple of injury updates is odd.

I suppose that could mean he is back available and likely to be involved but I highly doubt it.

[Billy Bunter 07]

I've no idea what the situation is with him but the fact he hasn't been mentioned in the last couple of injury updates is odd.

I suppose that could mean he is back available and likely to be involved but I highly doubt it.

The whole situation is peculiar at best.

How anyone can act as if it's just totally normal with a straight face I've no idea. It's one of the most surreal situations I can remember.

[Donegal Hibby]

Gray mentions that Youan is still struggling a bit at the end of this ( 2:51 ) …

https://x.com/ScotlandSky/status/1908105180572184808?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1908105180572184808%7Ctwgr% 5Ef537f93920b0287a13b36c6a407e858a06c2cd5d%7Ctwcon %5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rangersnews.uk%2Fnews%2F david-gray-takes-hibs-accolades-ahead-of-rangers-clash-but-confirms-three-major-injury-doubts-for-ibrox%2F

[superfurryhibby]

I've no idea what the situation is with him but the fact he hasn't been mentioned in the last couple of injury updates is odd.

I suppose that could mean he is back available and likely to be involved but I highly doubt it.

From yesterday,

"French forward Elie Youan is suffering from a “reaction” to playing in a bounce game during the international week. Youan has made just one appearance – as a late sub in that Scottish Cup loss at Celtic Park on March 9 – since limping out of the Boxing Day win over Hearts at Tynecastle with a toe injury.

Gray, reporting that the versatile attacker is also dealing with a “niggling knee problem”, is still positive that fans will see Youan back soon, possibly as early as this weekend, the gaffer saying: “We’ve built him back up again a little bit this week. But he has been a wee bit reactive in what he's been doing recently. So he's hopefully available for the weekend".

[JohnM1875]

Gray mentions that Youan is still struggling a bit at the end of this ( 2:51 ) …

https://x.com/ScotlandSky/status/1908105180572184808?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1908105180572184808%7Ctwgr% 5Ef537f93920b0287a13b36c6a407e858a06c2cd5d%7Ctwcon %5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rangersnews.uk%2Fnews%2F david-gray-takes-hibs-accolades-ahead-of-rangers-clash-but-confirms-three-major-injury-doubts-for-ibrox%2F

Can’t see him playing again for us.

[hibsbollah]

The whole situation is peculiar at best.

How anyone can act as if it's just totally normal with a straight face I've no idea. It's one of the most surreal situations I can remember.

Its just not really a big deal for most of us.
15 games unbeaten, longest league run since 1947-48. 3rd in the table. Almost all the squad with the possible exception of Kwon and Myko on good or very good form. Youan would have to play his way back into the team anyway, regardless of his status.
Maybe if we were struggling Youan would be yanking my chain but its all good.
I don't see anything surreal in the current Youan situation at all. No more surreal than the constant unavailability of Doyle Hayes or someone like that.

[Pretty Boy]

Its just not really a big deal for most of us.
15 games unbeaten, longest league run since 1947-48. 3rd in the table. Almost all the squad with the possible exception of Kwon and Myko on good or very good form. Youan would have to play his way back into the team anyway, regardless of his status.
Maybe if we were struggling Youan would be yanking my chain but its all good.
I don't see anything surreal in the current Youan situation at all. No more surreal than the constant unavailability of Doyle Hayes or someone like that.

In fairness the Doyle Hates situation was weird as well.

Maybe it comes down to a player's own preference but we seem to get an update every time some players take a paracetamol for a headache and there are others who just disappear off the face of the earth for weeks at a time.

[green day]

Can’t see him playing again for us.

Neither can I, sadly.

Quite odd, given his flag carrying stuff at Tynecastle as well.

[Billy Bunter 07]

Its just not really a big deal for most of us.
15 games unbeaten, longest league run since 1947-48. 3rd in the table. Almost all the squad with the possible exception of Kwon and Myko on good or very good form. Youan would have to play his way back into the team anyway, regardless of his status.
Maybe if we were struggling Youan would be yanking my chain but its all good.
I don't see anything surreal in the current Youan situation at all. No more surreal than the constant unavailability of Doyle Hayes or someone like that.

It's not that big a deal because we are winning. There's no point in acting that it's normal though.

I could be wrong but I would guess you are in a minority if you don't see anything surreal in the whole situation. Doyle Hayes was also strange before he was eventually punted.

Youan is potentially worth millions to the club and somewhere along the line something has went wrong in which the player will not be worth all they millions to the club any longer. The reality of the situation is we will lose quite a lot of money out of the whole thing.

[hibsbollah]

In fairness the Doyle Hates situation was weird as well.

Maybe it comes down to a player's own preference but we seem to get an update every time some players take a paracetamol for a headache and there are others who just disappear off the face of the earth for weeks at a time.

Perhaps thats partially my point. Even Doyle Hayes' fans would concede he was no more than a rotational player when we needed one in the midfield. So his absence never really got noticed. Someone like Magennis was different, you saw his ability, he genuinely looked like an international calibre player at times and it was so frustrating when he kept breaking down. At the moment Youan is just another option for the bench in amongst a team thats been playing very well for a long time so at some point you just accept it.

[hibsbollah]

It's not that big a deal because we are winning. There's no point in acting that it's normal though.

I could be wrong but I would guess you are in a minority if you don't see anything surreal in the whole situation. Doyle Hayes was also strange before he was eventually punted.

Youan is potentially worth millions to the club and somewhere along the line something has went wrong in which the player will not be worth all they millions to the club any longer. The reality of the situation is we will lose quite a lot of money out of the whole thing.

I think Friday afternoon when ive already had a few drinks is the wrong time to be talking about surrealism. But its not really that surreal.

[Joe6-2]

Neither can I, sadly.

Quite odd, given his flag carrying stuff at Tynecastle as well.

What annoys me is he’s collecting a wage packet, should be more info on him

[Billy Bunter 07]

I think Friday afternoon when ive already had a few drinks is the wrong time to be talking about surrealism. But its not really that surreal.

Enjoy :aok:

[WhileTheChief..]

Starting to think we’ll never see Ellie again

Benn thinking this for a while. No big loss.

[Bridge hibs]

It's not that big a deal because we are winning. There's no point in acting that it's normal though.

I could be wrong but I would guess you are in a minority if you don't see anything surreal in the whole situation. Doyle Hayes was also strange before he was eventually punted.

Youan is potentially worth millions to the club and somewhere along the line something has went wrong in which the player will not be worth all they millions to the club any longer. The reality of the situation is we will lose quite a lot of money out of the whole thing.Is Youan potentially worth millions though ? He has at times shown he is capable of being a top player and at times he has fluffed his lines and has hit enigma level that has hibs fans split down the middle.

I suppose in todays silly money football
economy he could command a cracking fee but the reality is his time in a hibs jersey does not scream out millions of ££££s, in reality he isnt that good.

Give me an Ivan Sproule every day of the week, real bums off seat player and although raw gave his ****ing best.

[Centre Hawf]

Is Youan potentially worth millions though ? He has at times shown he is capable of being a top player and at times he has fluffed his lines and has hit enigma level that has hibs fans split down the middle.

I suppose in todays silly money football
economy he could command a cracking fee but the reality is his time in a hibs jersey does not scream out millions of ££££s, in reality he isnt that good.

Give me an Ivan Sproule every day of the week, real bums off seat player and although raw gave his ****ing best.

I think he at least was worth millions. £2m for him has never really felt like it was unrealistic, especially when he was playing well. Even when he wasn’t you could see the remnants of a real sellable asset.

I don’t know what’s happening anymore. But I suspect we’ll never see him play again at this rate. Even if nothing sinister is happening and he is injured it’s a difficult scenario to see him fit and ready to make a difference now. I personally feel like something has happened or there’s a lack of seeing eye to eye somewhere along the line since Tynecastle.

[TrinityHFC]

The whole situation is peculiar at best.

How anyone can act as if it's just totally normal with a straight face I've no idea. It's one of the most surreal situations I can remember.

It’s not really. Players get injured a lot and are frequently out longer than anticipated. See JDH, Newell etc.

The rest is in people’s own heads.

[GreenCastle]

If his last major moment is waving the corner flat at Tynecastle in that win then so be it…

Will be interesting to follow his career post Hibs. I’ve always liked him as a player - hopefully he does play 1 more game at least for Hibs but at same time if he has a knee issue can’t see things being risked especially if they plan to sell in summer.

[Stuart93]

I don’t know why I’ve got this feeling but I reckon Youan’s best period in his career will be his time with us.

[andrew70]

What annoys me is he’s collecting a wage packet, should be more info on him

aye a paid employee collecting his wage, annoying. 🙄

Confidentiality is vital in every workplace even football. Elie deserves respect. I notice he’s very quiet on socials too, there may be a lot more to it.

Great football player, let’s hope he finds his form again whether it be here or elsewhere.

[Smartie]

I think he at least was worth millions. £2m for him has never really felt like it was unrealistic, especially when he was playing well. Even when he wasn’t you could see the remnants of a real sellable asset.

I don’t know what’s happening anymore. But I suspect we’ll never see him play again at this rate. Even if nothing sinister is happening and he is injured it’s a difficult scenario to see him fit and ready to make a difference now. I personally feel like something has happened or there’s a lack of seeing eye to eye somewhere along the line since Tynecastle.

£2m for Youan has always felt like pie in the sky to me. It’s a number based on a theoretical potential level of performance that you could talk yourself into believing was possible but deep down you know is never actually going to happen consistently enough for anyone, ever, in order to justify the fee.

[Smartie]

aye a paid employee collecting his wage, annoying. 🙄

Confidentiality is vital in every workplace even football. Elie deserves respect. I notice he’s very quiet on socials too, there may be a lot more to it.

Great football player, let’s hope he finds his form again whether it be here or elsewhere.

Interesting you mention his socials. Fair point, and I hadn’t even noticed he’d gone quiet.

It’s to his credit that he’s keeping quiet there right now and not doing anything to invite criticism, warranted or otherwise.

[Pretty Boy]

£2m for Youan has always felt like pie in the sky to me. It’s a number based on a theoretical potential level of performance that you could talk yourself into believing was possible but deep down you know is never actually going to happen consistently enough for anyone, ever, in order to justify the fee.

I think 18 months ago it was potentially realistic if he had 'done a Rocky' and went on a great run of really consistent performances.

He's 26 in a couple of days though and he's not really all that different from the player we signed back in 2022. A bit of a maverick, clear ability and a lot of upside but not really good enough or consistent enough for a level all that much higher. He's also suffered 2 long term injuries this season, whatever the nature of those injuries it's inarguable both kept him out for significant spells.

You might still get a coach who believes he can coach consistency and football IQ (insert Lee Johnson smile) into him but at his age and having played almost 150 games I don't think many are going to drop multiple millions on him. He's really at a stage where he has to be close to finished article rather than project with potential. £750K this summer and I'm pretty sure we'd deal, particularly given his contract situation. I'd even argue that isn't a bad deal for us; we signed him for somewhere south of that figure and have had a half decent return on the field.

[Billy Bunter 07]

It’s not really. Players get injured a lot and are frequently out longer than anticipated. See JDH, Newell etc.

The rest is in people’s own heads.

As is all your guesswork.

[Billy Bunter 07]

aye a paid employee collecting his wage, annoying. 🙄

Confidentiality is vital in every workplace even football. Elie deserves respect. I notice he’s very quiet on socials too, there may be a lot more to it.

Great football player, let’s hope he finds his form again whether it be here or elsewhere.

Yes, a "great football player" collecting a wage for doing very little for his wage, especially being that "great football player".

[TrinityHFC]

As is all your guesswork.

Not guesswork, no.

Every theory about him has proven to not be correct.

As I’ve said before my daughter’s partner is a first team player so I get to know a fair bit about the players as people.

The perception of Youan is completely wrong.

[Coco Bryce]

Not guesswork, no.

Every theory about him has proven to not be correct.

As I’ve said before my daughter’s partner is a first team player so I get to know a fair bit about the players as people.

The perception of Youan is completely wrong.

Seriously though. As if any current player is going to bad mouth him to you regardless?

[Paulie Walnuts]

£2m for Youan has always felt like pie in the sky to me. It’s a number based on a theoretical potential level of performance that you could talk yourself into believing was possible but deep down you know is never actually going to happen consistently enough for anyone, ever, in order to justify the fee.

Has it?

Prior to this season he had played 80 games for Hibs, scoring 19 goals and getting 18 assists. Keeping in mind he’s far from an out and out striker and he had only just turned 25. His output for that type of player was very, very good, and those types of players tend to be some of the more expensive.

It’s possibly a fanciful valuation now because he hasn’t done much this season and his contract is running down but £2m was never a fanciful figure in summer 2024 for example imo.

[Jock O]

Brief update from Gray in latest Observer. Another set back on toe but maybe available this weekend.

[BILLYHIBS]

Happy Birthday Elie 26 today

Many happy returns

Haste ye back !

https://i.ibb.co/LDhbPZZN/IMG-3405.png (https://ibb.co/hx1hMmmY)

[Ronniekirk]

Whenever he is available agsin he will be miles off being match fit
Given we need to try and keeping as many games as we can to try and finish third , am not sure we can afford to give him a lot of game time to get him up to speed unless we find ourselves a few goals up
Even against Celtic he was losing the ball and not going by players and part of that will be him not bring match fit So cameos off bench at best

[SHODAN]

He's living his best life

[Greenbeard]

Whenever he is available agsin he will be miles off being match fit
Given we need to try and keeping as many games as we can to try and finish third , am not sure we can afford to give him a lot of game time to get him up to speed unless we find ourselves a few goals up
Even against Celtic he was losing the ball and not going by players and part of that will be him not bring match fit So cameos off bench at best

Even a 90% fit Youan coming on with 15 to go has the potential to worry any defence.

[RIP]

Out of interest, are there any posters on here who have experienced a toe injury? How long do such injuries take to heal?

[babahibs]

Out of interest, are there any posters on here who have experienced a toe injury? How long do such injuries take to heal?

I broke my big toe when I was 15, really painful and messed with my balance, had a stookie up to my knee for 4 weeks.
It happened at the end of May, I missed all of preseason and didn't play again till into September. Horrible injury.

[Greenbeard]

Out of interest, are there any posters on here who have experienced a toe injury? How long do such injuries take to heal?
Had a niggling pain in my 2nd toe when c.15 years old which stopped me running from around early March. Just kept coming back after a week/couple of weeks rest. It was eventually, after two x-rays, confirmed as a stress fracture. Reckon I was off running for close to 6 months in total but that included c.2 months of mis-diagnosis and misguided attempts to keep going.