The Black Knights

[bingo70]

The 115-charges case is still ongoing. This was a separate one.

What was the one about that was concluded yesterday?

What’s the difference between the two cases?

[Vini1875]

If the BK wanted to increase their share holding in Hibs to 51% and were allowed to do it, why would the Gordon's give up control and become a minority share holder?

I could understand them reaching a point where they don't want to spend anymore money and come to see that Ron's legacy hasn't been realised, possibly after Kit has gone and it is only Ian pouring money into his father's dream. Then I think he would want to sell his entire share holding and move on to his own dreams.

I just don't see a road that leads to the BK getting to 51% and Bill Foley can't exactly play the long game on this, he is 82 right now.

Also how much investment has been made in their other teams in the BK group? I'm sure Bournemouth have had money pumped in and obviously the EPL is awash with money, but have the others? I don't see what we have got from this deal so far and personally I feel a little let down from the initial high of them coming in and what they would bring.

[04Sauzee]

Lorient are top of ligue 2
Auckland are top of the A league
Bournemouth are 7th in the Premiership

Clubs are doing well.

Bournemouth up to 5th

[Unseen work]

As much as I like the thought of us benefitting from Bournemouth and the black knights

It really loses its appeal and I don’t like the thought of it just becoming the norm and more or less every club being part of a bigger group

[CropleyWasGod]

What was the one about that was concluded yesterday?

What’s the difference between the two cases?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c78xpp3vlkko

This one was a more general one than the big one, which is just about City.

[matty_f]

If the BK wanted to increase their share holding in Hibs to 51% and were allowed to do it, why would the Gordon's give up control and become a minority share holder?

I could understand them reaching a point where they don't want to spend anymore money and come to see that Ron's legacy hasn't been realised, possibly after Kit has gone and it is only Ian pouring money into his father's dream. Then I think he would want to sell his entire share holding and move on to his own dreams.

I just don't see a road that leads to the BK getting to 51% and Bill Foley can't exactly play the long game on this, he is 82 right now.

Also how much investment has been made in their other teams in the BK group? I'm sure Bournemouth have had money pumped in and obviously the EPL is awash with money, but have the others? I don't see what we have got from this deal so far and personally I feel a little let down from the initial high of them coming in and what they would bring.

I don’t think there’s any indication that the authorities are going to soften the C 30% maximum holding that BKFC are allowed at the moment and so that’s what they’re working on.

For us to really get the benefit of the relationship we need a lot of collaboration and willingness from the Gordon family to act as part of the group.

If they don’t do that , then there’s not a lot of incentive for BKFC to spend more time and money on Hibs than they already have.

You’d have to think that there was agreement on how it would look before the investment was confirmed and that both sides saw potential benefits.

I know everyone has their own views on it but I’m comfortable being part of a wider group if it makes us significantly better. If we’re not then there’s no point in doing it.

[Paulie Walnuts]

As much as I like the thought of us benefitting from Bournemouth and the black knights

It really loses its appeal and I don’t like the thought of it just becoming the norm and more or less every club being part of a bigger group

Put simply, I just like the idea of Hibs being good at football. The black nights appear our best option for that imo.

[ancient hibee]

Lorient are top of ligue 2
Auckland are top of the A league
Bournemouth are 7th in the Premiership

Clubs are doing well.

You’ve missed a Club.:greengrin

[bingo70]

Rangers in advanced talks to be sold to the owners of the 49’rs.

Do they not own Leeds as well? Could this be what sets the wheels in motion to properly allow multi club owners in Scottish football?

[Dmas]

Rangers in advanced talks to be sold to the owners of the 49’rs.

Do they not own Leeds as well? Could this be what sets the wheels in motion to properly allow multi club owners in Scottish football?

Was just about to post this, they own Leeds yeah red bull have some sort of percentage as well but sure they bought they out for 170m so must be majority owners

[bingo70]

Was just about to post this, they own Leeds yeah red bull have some sort of percentage as well but sure they bought they out for 170m so must be majority owners

I tried reading the story in one of the red tops but it was basically unreadable due to adverts popping up.

Is it the same group looking to buy Rangers or is it an individual who’s involved with them who is also looking to invest in Rangers? (If that makes sense)

[JohnM1875]

I tried reading the story in one of the red tops but it was basically unreadable due to adverts popping up.

Is it the same group looking to buy Rangers or is it an individual who’s involved with them who is also looking to invest in Rangers? (If that makes sense)

Its a consortium. But the guy involved, Marathie is the man in charge of the NFL giants investment arm and Leeds chairman.

Also mentions the York family who own 49ers and Leeds. Net worth of around $6 billion.

[Dmas]

I tried reading the story in one of the red tops but it was basically unreadable due to adverts popping up.

Is it the same group looking to buy Rangers or is it an individual who’s involved with them who is also looking to invest in Rangers? (If that makes sense)

49er Enterprises same that own Leeds, according to Keith Jackson

[JohnM1875]

Rangers are at the centre of a potentially transformative US led takeover bid – a deal that would see them bankrolled by the enormous financial muscle of the San Francisco 49ers.

The Daily Record has learned top-level discussions over a multi-million pound investment began before the turn of the year – and they are now believed to be at ‘an advanced stage’. And if an agreement can be thrashed out the Ibrox club stand to benefit from a major cash injection which would then fund a spending splurge in the summer transfer market.

Sources from south of the border have confirmed one of the key men behind the proposal is Leeds United chairman Paraag Marathe – the man in charge of the NFL giants’ investment arm, 49ers Enterprises. Marathe – who is also executive vice president of football operations in San Francisco – was the architect in chief of a takeover of the Elland Road Club which took a step closer to a Premier League return on Monday night with a dramatic late win over Sunderland.

It’s understood he is now part of a consortium – including at least one other high net worth American business mogul – which hopes to restore Rangers to the top of the Scottish game after years spent languishing in the shadow of Old Firm rivals Celtic.

The American consortium plans to snap up enough shares to become the biggest single shareholder in the club and would be likely to demand seats in a new look boardroom. The finer details behind the move are not yet clear but the current configuration of major shareholders means that any deal will be complicated.

Former chairman Dave King who owns almost 13 per cent, Douglas Park retains nearly 12 per cent, George Taylor holds just over 10 per cent, Stuart Gibson is not far behind with John Bennett on around seven per cent. Directors Julian Wolhardt and John Halsted share a combined stake of just over 12 per cent.

While Marathe has not played a leading role in the takeover discussions it’s understood he has agreed to help fund it as his group closes in on a deal to oversee a revolutionary transfer of power in the boardroom. In return, not only would Rangers receive a massive injection of transfer cash but the club would also gain access to the 49ers cutting edge, data driven technology for player recruitment as well as open the door to a number of money spinning sponsorships and new commercial tie ups.

The would be buyers view Rangers as a perfect investment opportunity given the club’s regular access to UEFA elite competitions, either in the Champions League or Europa League. And Marathe’s knowledge of the landscape of the British game, coupled with his position with the cash rich 49ers are seen as hugely significant.

He recently headed up a gradual, staged takeover of Leeds United, bankrolled by the York family - owners of the 49ers and listed by Forbes Magazine as having a net worth of around 6 billion dollars.

Francisco 49ers Enterprises - the investment wing of the NFL giants - first purchased a 15 per cent stake in the Elland Road outfit in 2018. Three years later Marathe increased that stake to 44 per cent. In the summer of 2023 he completed a £170m deal to buy the club outright.

Hollywood star Will Ferrell subsequently snapped up a minority holding and revealed afterwards he was convinced to get involved following discussions with Marathe. Leeds are currently closing in on a return to the top flight of English football, with Daniel ****e’s side sitting in pole position in the Championship and with Marathe in charge as chairman.

They have also raked in more than £150m from recent player sales including Archie Gray’s £42m move to Spurs and Glen Kamara’s £10m transfer to Rennes - which came just 12 months after the Finland international’s £5m move from Rangers.

The Americans believe Marathe’s expertise can help him transform the fortunes of Rangers at a time when the club is being ravaged by internal unrest. Philippe Clement’s side hit rock bottom earlier this month when they were dumped out of the Scottish Cup by Championship minnows Queen’s Park, sparking a furious response in the stands.

And a section of away supporters at Tynecastle on Sunday demanded change at the top of the club during a 3-1 league win over Hearts. Rangers have won just a single Premiership title since King swept to power a decade ago and the Americans see similarities with the 49ers.

The York family dynasty have run the San Francisco franchise since the turn of the century after winning control of the outfit following a legal battle with former owner Edward J DeBartolo Jnr. DeBartolo Jnr had enjoyed unprecedented success with the 49ers during the 80s and 90s - winning five Superbowls.

He turned over ownership in 2000 to his sister – billionaire businesswoman Denise DeBartolo York and her husband John York, a retired cancer research pathologist. The couple then handed over control of the 49ers to son Jed York in 2008.

[cabbageandribs1875]

DON'T DO IT 49ers FFS :brickwall:brickwall:brickwall

[degenerated]

I don’t think there’s any indication that the authorities are going to soften the C 30% maximum holding that BKFC are allowed at the moment and so that’s what they’re working on.

For us to really get the benefit of the relationship we need a lot of collaboration and willingness from the Gordon family to act as part of the group.

If they don’t do that , then there’s not a lot of incentive for BKFC to spend more time and money on Hibs than they already have.

You’d have to think that there was agreement on how it would look before the investment was confirmed and that both sides saw potential benefits.

I know everyone has their own views on it but I’m comfortable being part of a wider group if it makes us significantly better. If we’re not then there’s no point in doing it.If the 49ers are looking to buy the Huns, whilst also owning Leeds then the rules will be changed pronto.

[CapitalGreen]

Will be interesting to see how the staunchest of Huns feel about their club being owned by a Catholic family.

[JohnM1875]

Will be interesting to see how the staunchest of Huns feel about their club being owned by a Catholic family.

Had a wee look on Follow Follow and almost all of them seem desperate for the investment.

A few are obviously sceptical with it being the DR reporting it.

[Aldo]

Rangers are at the centre of a potentially transformative US led takeover bid – a deal that would see them bankrolled by the enormous financial muscle of the San Francisco 49ers.

The Daily Record has learned top-level discussions over a multi-million pound investment began before the turn of the year – and they are now believed to be at ‘an advanced stage’. And if an agreement can be thrashed out the Ibrox club stand to benefit from a major cash injection which would then fund a spending splurge in the summer transfer market.

Sources from south of the border have confirmed one of the key men behind the proposal is Leeds United chairman Paraag Marathe – the man in charge of the NFL giants’ investment arm, 49ers Enterprises. Marathe – who is also executive vice president of football operations in San Francisco – was the architect in chief of a takeover of the Elland Road Club which took a step closer to a Premier League return on Monday night with a dramatic late win over Sunderland.

It’s understood he is now part of a consortium – including at least one other high net worth American business mogul – which hopes to restore Rangers to the top of the Scottish game after years spent languishing in the shadow of Old Firm rivals Celtic.

The American consortium plans to snap up enough shares to become the biggest single shareholder in the club and would be likely to demand seats in a new look boardroom. The finer details behind the move are not yet clear but the current configuration of major shareholders means that any deal will be complicated.

Former chairman Dave King who owns almost 13 per cent, Douglas Park retains nearly 12 per cent, George Taylor holds just over 10 per cent, Stuart Gibson is not far behind with John Bennett on around seven per cent. Directors Julian Wolhardt and John Halsted share a combined stake of just over 12 per cent.

While Marathe has not played a leading role in the takeover discussions it’s understood he has agreed to help fund it as his group closes in on a deal to oversee a revolutionary transfer of power in the boardroom. In return, not only would Rangers receive a massive injection of transfer cash but the club would also gain access to the 49ers cutting edge, data driven technology for player recruitment as well as open the door to a number of money spinning sponsorships and new commercial tie ups.

The would be buyers view Rangers as a perfect investment opportunity given the club’s regular access to UEFA elite competitions, either in the Champions League or Europa League. And Marathe’s knowledge of the landscape of the British game, coupled with his position with the cash rich 49ers are seen as hugely significant.

He recently headed up a gradual, staged takeover of Leeds United, bankrolled by the York family - owners of the 49ers and listed by Forbes Magazine as having a net worth of around 6 billion dollars.

Francisco 49ers Enterprises - the investment wing of the NFL giants - first purchased a 15 per cent stake in the Elland Road outfit in 2018. Three years later Marathe increased that stake to 44 per cent. In the summer of 2023 he completed a £170m deal to buy the club outright.

Hollywood star Will Ferrell subsequently snapped up a minority holding and revealed afterwards he was convinced to get involved following discussions with Marathe. Leeds are currently closing in on a return to the top flight of English football, with Daniel ****e’s side sitting in pole position in the Championship and with Marathe in charge as chairman.

They have also raked in more than £150m from recent player sales including Archie Gray’s £42m move to Spurs and Glen Kamara’s £10m transfer to Rennes - which came just 12 months after the Finland international’s £5m move from Rangers.

The Americans believe Marathe’s expertise can help him transform the fortunes of Rangers at a time when the club is being ravaged by internal unrest. Philippe Clement’s side hit rock bottom earlier this month when they were dumped out of the Scottish Cup by Championship minnows Queen’s Park, sparking a furious response in the stands.

And a section of away supporters at Tynecastle on Sunday demanded change at the top of the club during a 3-1 league win over Hearts. Rangers have won just a single Premiership title since King swept to power a decade ago and the Americans see similarities with the 49ers.

The York family dynasty have run the San Francisco franchise since the turn of the century after winning control of the outfit following a legal battle with former owner Edward J DeBartolo Jnr. DeBartolo Jnr had enjoyed unprecedented success with the 49ers during the 80s and 90s - winning five Superbowls.

He turned over ownership in 2000 to his sister – billionaire businesswoman Denise DeBartolo York and her husband John York, a retired cancer research pathologist. The couple then handed over control of the 49ers to son Jed York in 2008.

Funnily enough Jackson has failed to mention or maybe deliberately omitted the bit about dual ownership in Scotland and the maximum the current rules allow.

Wouldn’t surprise me if it’s given the green light by the powers that be without any hoops to jump through like we did.

I would even suggest plain sailing given who it is.

[JohnM1875]

Funnily enough Jackson has failed to mention or maybe deliberately omitted the bit about dual ownership in Scotland and the maximum the current rules allow.

Wouldn’t surprise me if it’s given the green light by the powers that be without any hoops to jump through like we did.

I would even suggest plain sailing given who it is.

Probably why he's not bothered mentioning it. Knows if the Huns want it, they'll get it.

[Aldo]

Probably why he's not bothered mentioning it. Knows if the Huns want it, they'll get it.

Yeah that’s my take on it.

[CropleyWasGod]

Funnily enough Jackson has failed to mention or maybe deliberately omitted the bit about dual ownership in Scotland and the maximum the current rules allow.

Wouldn’t surprise me if it’s given the green light by the powers that be without any hoops to jump through like we did.

I would even suggest plain sailing given who it is.

Reading that article, the dual-ownership rules wouldn't be an immediate issue, if it's done the same way as the investment in Leeds. That was staged over a few years, starting with 15%. That size of holding would make them the largest shareholder, which is what the article says they want.

[Aldo]

Reading that article, the dual-ownership rules wouldn't be an issue, if it's done the same way as the investment in Leeds. That was staged over a few years, starting with 15%. That size of holding would make them the largest shareholder, which is what the article says they want.

Thanks for that CWG. Reading it again it does seem that way. Mind you you never know with that mob.

[HoboHarry]

Rangers are at the centre of a potentially transformative US led takeover bid – a deal that would see them bankrolled by the enormous financial muscle of the San Francisco 49ers.

The Daily Record has learned top-level discussions over a multi-million pound investment began before the turn of the year – and they are now believed to be at ‘an advanced stage’. And if an agreement can be thrashed out the Ibrox club stand to benefit from a major cash injection which would then fund a spending splurge in the summer transfer market.

Sources from south of the border have confirmed one of the key men behind the proposal is Leeds United chairman Paraag Marathe – the man in charge of the NFL giants’ investment arm, 49ers Enterprises. Marathe – who is also executive vice president of football operations in San Francisco – was the architect in chief of a takeover of the Elland Road Club which took a step closer to a Premier League return on Monday night with a dramatic late win over Sunderland.

It’s understood he is now part of a consortium – including at least one other high net worth American business mogul – which hopes to restore Rangers to the top of the Scottish game after years spent languishing in the shadow of Old Firm rivals Celtic.

The American consortium plans to snap up enough shares to become the biggest single shareholder in the club and would be likely to demand seats in a new look boardroom. The finer details behind the move are not yet clear but the current configuration of major shareholders means that any deal will be complicated.

Former chairman Dave King who owns almost 13 per cent, Douglas Park retains nearly 12 per cent, George Taylor holds just over 10 per cent, Stuart Gibson is not far behind with John Bennett on around seven per cent. Directors Julian Wolhardt and John Halsted share a combined stake of just over 12 per cent.

While Marathe has not played a leading role in the takeover discussions it’s understood he has agreed to help fund it as his group closes in on a deal to oversee a revolutionary transfer of power in the boardroom. In return, not only would Rangers receive a massive injection of transfer cash but the club would also gain access to the 49ers cutting edge, data driven technology for player recruitment as well as open the door to a number of money spinning sponsorships and new commercial tie ups.

The would be buyers view Rangers as a perfect investment opportunity given the club’s regular access to UEFA elite competitions, either in the Champions League or Europa League. And Marathe’s knowledge of the landscape of the British game, coupled with his position with the cash rich 49ers are seen as hugely significant.

He recently headed up a gradual, staged takeover of Leeds United, bankrolled by the York family - owners of the 49ers and listed by Forbes Magazine as having a net worth of around 6 billion dollars.

Francisco 49ers Enterprises - the investment wing of the NFL giants - first purchased a 15 per cent stake in the Elland Road outfit in 2018. Three years later Marathe increased that stake to 44 per cent. In the summer of 2023 he completed a £170m deal to buy the club outright.

Hollywood star Will Ferrell subsequently snapped up a minority holding and revealed afterwards he was convinced to get involved following discussions with Marathe. Leeds are currently closing in on a return to the top flight of English football, with Daniel ****e’s side sitting in pole position in the Championship and with Marathe in charge as chairman.

They have also raked in more than £150m from recent player sales including Archie Gray’s £42m move to Spurs and Glen Kamara’s £10m transfer to Rennes - which came just 12 months after the Finland international’s £5m move from Rangers.

The Americans believe Marathe’s expertise can help him transform the fortunes of Rangers at a time when the club is being ravaged by internal unrest. Philippe Clement’s side hit rock bottom earlier this month when they were dumped out of the Scottish Cup by Championship minnows Queen’s Park, sparking a furious response in the stands.

And a section of away supporters at Tynecastle on Sunday demanded change at the top of the club during a 3-1 league win over Hearts. Rangers have won just a single Premiership title since King swept to power a decade ago and the Americans see similarities with the 49ers.

The York family dynasty have run the San Francisco franchise since the turn of the century after winning control of the outfit following a legal battle with former owner Edward J DeBartolo Jnr. DeBartolo Jnr had enjoyed unprecedented success with the 49ers during the 80s and 90s - winning five Superbowls.

He turned over ownership in 2000 to his sister – billionaire businesswoman Denise DeBartolo York and her husband John York, a retired cancer research pathologist. The couple then handed over control of the 49ers to son Jed York in 2008.
It's an obvious question, but if they have real cash to invest why wouldn't they go for another English team similar to the Leeds model that's mentioned? They would prefer a debt ridden Sevco with a crumbling stadium and it's probably a coincidence that we are getting close to ST sales. I smell shioite....

[Kato]

If the 49ers are looking to buy the Huns, whilst also owning Leeds then the rules will be changed pronto.Good.

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[CropleyWasGod]

It's an obvious question, but if they have real cash to invest why wouldn't they go for another English team similar to the Leeds model that's mentioned? They would prefer a debt ridden Sevco with a crumbling stadium and it's probably a coincidence that we are getting close to ST sales. I smell shioite....

They have just published a share issue of 18m shares, for £360k. That could be capitalisation of some of the loans, or it could be new money.

How that fits into the story ....... ?

PS, for comic relief, they ****ed up the paperwork. The first, hastily-corrected, version had them issuing £18m in shares :greengrin

[Chorley Hibee]

Isn't this latest Rangers are back puff piece a coincidence, especially as it comes on the same day they've just announced their latest share issue in order to keep the lights on.

No sane person is getting involved with that mob.

[HoboHarry]

They have just published a share issue of 18m shares, for £360k. That could be capitalisation of some of the loans, or it could be new money.

How that fits into the story ....... ?

PS, for comic relief, they ****ed up the paperwork. The first, hastily-corrected, version had them issuing £18m in shares :greengrin
They don't happen to have a current tax bill or similar due in the amount of $360,000 do they per chance? (Sorry don't have a pound sign on my keyboard :greengrin)

[bingo70]

Isn't this latest Rangers are back puff piece a coincidence, especially as it comes on the same day they've just announced their latest share issue in order to keep the lights on.

No sane person is getting involved with that mob.

I don’t know, rangers (and Celtic) are huge clubs with genuine worldwide appeal and guaranteed European football. If you’re happy to ignore why they’re such a big club and such a huge following, there’s lots of potential there imo unfortunately.

Obviously that’s not taking into account any financial baggage that comes with buying them, I’ve no idea what debt or court cases any purchaser would have to deal with.

[bingo70]

https://x.com/frazfletcher/status/1892306936311197900?s=46&t=VghJuoU_bl8ISs-zf5CmHg

“Ask for a Leeds insight on the 49'ers and the impact on their club. Here is what i was told:

Paraag Marathe is Chairman of Leeds and executive chairman of S49ers.

He’s is absolutely loaded but the business model involves recruiting high end businessmen and sports stars to invest into their Enterprises. The formula tends to work.

Leeds are majority owned by 49ers Enterprises, but there are a long list who have stakes in that and therefore Leeds i.e - Will Ferrell, Larry Nance, Jordan Spieth, Michael Phelps, Russell Crowe & dozens more.

49'ers have seen success under them and they’ve also had moderate success at*Leeds*so*far, taking them to the brink of a Premier League return”


I think that’s basically the same model the Black Knights use.

[HoboHarry]

I don’t know, rangers (and Celtic) are huge clubs with genuine worldwide appeal and guaranteed European football. If you’re happy to ignore why they’re such a big club and such a huge following, there’s lots of potential there imo unfortunately.

Obviously that’s not taking into account any financial baggage that comes with buying them, I’ve no idea what debt or court cases any purchaser would have to deal with.

I've heard many times about this worldwide appeal and after 25 years here I just don't see it. The east coast may be different but in all that time I've seen a small number of Celtic shirts and not one single Rangers shirt, not a single one. Wads and wads of the top English and Spanish clubs but Celtic and Rangers? Not what I see....

[ancient hibee]

If Rangers issue new shares for the 49ers to buy what will be the effect on the current major shareholders? Will they accept a dilution in the hope of the value eventually going up ?

[tamig]

49er Enterprises same that own Leeds, according to Keith Jackson

They’ll need to get that name changed to the 55ers.

[Itsnoteasy]

They’ll need to get that name changed to the 55ers.

Or the

2012 ers

[007]

The 2-3ers.

[matty_f]

If the 49ers are looking to buy the Huns, whilst also owning Leeds then the rules will be changed pronto.

Here's hoping.

[cekim]

1690ers

[Just_Jimmy]

Rangers in advanced talks to be sold to the owners of the 49’rs.

Do they not own Leeds as well? Could this be what sets the wheels in motion to properly allow multi club owners in Scottish football?What makes you think they'll change the rules to suit sevco? [emoji849]

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[Chorley Hibee]

What makes you think they'll change the rules to suit sevco? [emoji849]

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Remember all the pre-conditions attached to the Black Knights investment that the authorities wanted?

Watch them mysteriously disappear into thin air now.

[CropleyWasGod]

What makes you think they'll change the rules to suit sevco? [emoji849]

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Remember all the pre-conditions attached to the Black Knights investment that the authorities wanted?

Watch them mysteriously disappear into thin air now.

According to the DR, they want to be the largest shareholder. At the moment, that would be anything over 13%.

That would tie in with how they approached the Leeds ownership (15% to begin with).

So there would be no need for any change in the rules.

[matty_f]

According to the DR, they want to be the largest shareholder. At the moment, that would be anything over 13%.

That would tie in with how they approached the Leeds ownership (15% to begin with).

So there would be no need for any change in the rules.

What's the rule at the moment? We needed an exemption to allow BKFC to buy up to a maximum of 30%.

[CropleyWasGod]

What's the rule at the moment? We needed an exemption to allow BKFC to buy up to a maximum of 30%.

Actually, a quick Google tells me it's actually 0% :rolleyes:

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/14368413/rangers-san-francisco-49ers-takeover-leeds-sfa-rules/#:~:text=Most%20read%20in%20Football&text=Article%2013%20in%20the%20Scottish,the%20deal %20is%20rubber%2Dstamped.

I know that's the Sun, but they do directly quote the SFA rules.

That said, having granted us up to 29.9%, they'd be hard-pushed to reject Rangers 15%, if that's how it plays out

Edit.... obviously blown out of the water by the post on the Rangers thread :greengrin

[bingo70]

Actually, a quick Google tells me it's actually 0% :rolleyes:

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/14368413/rangers-san-francisco-49ers-takeover-leeds-sfa-rules/#:~:text=Most%20read%20in%20Football&text=Article%2013%20in%20the%20Scottish,the%20deal %20is%20rubber%2Dstamped.

I know that's the Sun, but they do directly quote the SFA rules.

That said, having granted us up to 29.9%, they'd be hard-pushed to reject Rangers 15%, if that's how it plays out

Edit.... obviously blown out of the water by the post on the Rangers thread :greengrin

They wouldn’t necessarily reject it but surely they would be made to jump through the same hoops and meet the same criteria that we had to? It shouldn’t just be a given with no begging involved?

[Paulie Walnuts]

They wouldn’t necessarily reject it but surely they would be made to jump through the same hoops and meet the same criteria that we had to? It shouldn’t just be a given with no begging involved?

Was ours approved on a case by case basis? Or were the rules amended? If it’s the latter than they should be able to do it no questions asked, if it’s the firmer though then they should definitely have to go through the same process.

[hibstag]

I've heard many times about this worldwide appeal and after 25 years here I just don't see it. The east coast may be different but in all that time I've seen a small number of Celtic shirts and not one single Rangers shirt, not a single one. Wads and wads of the top English and Spanish clubs but Celtic and Rangers? Not what I see....

I agree Small enclaves of ex pats is not worldwide appeal...

[hibsforeurope]

If the Huns are allowed to let the Leeds majority shareholder/owner have a 50% shareholding what’s to stop Bill Foley and the BKFC buying us out right now?

[HoboHarry]

I agree Small enclaves of ex pats is not worldwide appeal...
I was really meaning the locals, there's more and more people wearing football shirts but not a single one belongs to the uglies from what I see. Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool, Real, Barcelona are the main ones I see and the occasional PSG shirt as well. For the ex-pats around here it's Aberdeen shirts I see the most from the oil guys.

[bingo70]

If the Huns are allowed to let the Leeds majority shareholder/owner have a 50% shareholding what’s to stop Bill Foley and the BKFC buying us out right now?

Is it the same group that would be owning Leeds and Rangers or is it people within that group who are involved?

The wording of the stories seems to be making out like it’s not the same as the Black knights involvement with us. I’ve never seen mention of Rangers coming part of a multi club structure for example?

[Greenworld]

If the Huns are allowed to let the Leeds majority shareholder/owner have a 50% shareholding what’s to stop Bill Foley and the BKFC buying us out right now?The Gordon's i would think

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[Haymaker]

I've heard many times about this worldwide appeal and after 25 years here I just don't see it. The east coast may be different but in all that time I've seen a small number of Celtic shirts and not one single Rangers shirt, not a single one. Wads and wads of the top English and Spanish clubs but Celtic and Rangers? Not what I see....

I've seen two Huns in my time on the East Coast, both lads from Glasgow who live in the US.

Loads more Celtc shirts in NYC in particular, either from the Irish lads or from those Americans who pretend to be Irish. There's even a Hibs bar in NYC!

Celtc have the global brand, the Huns less so.

[hibsforeurope]

Is it the same group that would be owning Leeds and Rangers or is it people within that group who are involved?

The wording of the stories seems to be making out like it’s not the same as the Black knights involvement with us. I’ve never seen mention of Rangers coming part of a multi club structure for example?

It sounded like the group, he was part of, is looking to buy the Huns.
This sounds like the bill foley being part of the BKFC and chairman at Bournemouth being minority investors at Hibs.

Is the issue multi club structures or just someone not being able to have majority ownership in more than 1 club?

[hibsforeurope]

The Gordon's i would think

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Well, true. But assuming the next steps (BKFC full ownership) we’re discussed as part of the initial talks.

[Phil MaGlass]

the huns don't have worldwide appeal, whereas sellik may be better known, I wouldn't call any of them world names.

[LunasBoots]

A load of nonsense dropped by the DR and all the media have fallen for it, without stating that to get it done theyd have to get past rules other clubs have failed to do.

[JohnM1875]

A load of nonsense dropped by the DR and all the media have fallen for it, without stating that to get it done theyd have to get past rules other clubs have failed to do.

Has any other Scottish club attempted to do it?

[BoomtownHibees]

A load of nonsense dropped by the DR and all the media have fallen for it, without stating that to get it done theyd have to get past rules other clubs have failed to do.

DR now reporting that it has all been given the go ahead

[CropleyWasGod]

DR now reporting that it has all been given the go ahead

Yet there is still a bit of disparity between their version and the BBC's.

The Record are still going with "the largest single shareholder" line, which isn't a high bar. The BBC are going with "over 50%".

[Lago]

Yet there is still a bit of disparity between their version and the BBC's.

The Record are still going with "the largest single shareholder" line, which isn't a high bar. The BBC are going with "over 50%".
Which ever one it is, based on what BBC news tonight it seems to be pretty much going to happen.

[JohnM1875]

From The National;

‘ Scottish FA rules on multi-club ownership would be no barrier to a potential takeover of Rangers by 49ers Enterprises, the investment arm of NFL franchise the San Francisco 49ers, or even the potential for their president Paraag Marathe to take a seat on the Ibrox board.

Marathe is also the Leeds United chairman, but Herald Sport understands that the SFA would have no objection to his involvement at Rangers on the grounds of dual ownership as it would 'not impact on the integrity of the competition' in this country.

There are precedents from the governing body in approving such deals, with US billionaire and Bournemouth owner Bill Foley cleared to take ownership of 25 percent of Hibs last year, while analytics firm Park Bench SFC LLC were able to purchase 99.84 percent of Dunfermline's shares in January despite also holding minority stakes in Córdoba CF and PFC Septemvri Sofia.

An SFA source confirmed to The Herald therefore that far from throwing hurdles into the path of investors looking to bring money into the game in this country, particularly those with track records elsewhere, the governing body would look to encourage it wherever possible.

Talks between a consortium headed by Marathe and Rangers' existing shareholders are believed to be in an advanced stage, with another as yet unnamed wealthy US investor believed to be involved.

Marathe's 49ers Enterprises previously bought an initial 15 percent share in Leeds United back in 2018 before slowly increasing their stake and eventually taking full control of the Elland Road club back in 2023.

They are now looking to add Rangers to their stable of interests, exciting Ibrox fans with the potential of investment in players on the field, but also in modernising the structure of the club.’

Interesting that the governing body would now ‘look to encourage it’ eh?

[Lago]

From The National;

‘ Scottish FA rules on multi-club ownership would be no barrier to a potential takeover of Rangers by 49ers Enterprises, the investment arm of NFL franchise the San Francisco 49ers, or even the potential for their president Paraag Marathe to take a seat on the Ibrox board.

Marathe is also the Leeds United chairman, but Herald Sport understands that the SFA would have no objection to his involvement at Rangers on the grounds of dual ownership as it would 'not impact on the integrity of the competition' in this country.

There are precedents from the governing body in approving such deals, with US billionaire and Bournemouth owner Bill Foley cleared to take ownership of 25 percent of Hibs last year, while analytics firm Park Bench SFC LLC were able to purchase 99.84 percent of Dunfermline's shares in January despite also holding minority stakes in Córdoba CF and PFC Septemvri Sofia.

An SFA source confirmed to The Herald therefore that far from throwing hurdles into the path of investors looking to bring money into the game in this country, particularly those with track records elsewhere, the governing body would look to encourage it wherever possible.

Talks between a consortium headed by Marathe and Rangers' existing shareholders are believed to be in an advanced stage, with another as yet unnamed wealthy US investor believed to be involved.

Marathe's 49ers Enterprises previously bought an initial 15 percent share in Leeds United back in 2018 before slowly increasing their stake and eventually taking full control of the Elland Road club back in 2023.

They are now looking to add Rangers to their stable of interests, exciting Ibrox fans with the potential of investment in players on the field, but also in modernising the structure of the club.’

Interesting that the governing body would now ‘look to encourage it’ eh?
Didn't take them long to adapt there outlook

[A Hi-Bee]

From The National;

‘ Scottish FA rules on multi-club ownership would be no barrier to a potential takeover of Rangers by 49ers Enterprises, the investment arm of NFL franchise the San Francisco 49ers, or even the potential for their president Paraag Marathe to take a seat on the Ibrox board.

Marathe is also the Leeds United chairman, but Herald Sport understands that the SFA would have no objection to his involvement at Rangers on the grounds of dual ownership as it would 'not impact on the integrity of the competition' in this country.

There are precedents from the governing body in approving such deals, with US billionaire and Bournemouth owner Bill Foley cleared to take ownership of 25 percent of Hibs last year, while analytics firm Park Bench SFC LLC were able to purchase 99.84 percent of Dunfermline's shares in January despite also holding minority stakes in Córdoba CF and PFC Septemvri Sofia.

An SFA source confirmed to The Herald therefore that far from throwing hurdles into the path of investors looking to bring money into the game in this country, particularly those with track records elsewhere, the governing body would look to encourage it wherever possible.

Talks between a consortium headed by Marathe and Rangers' existing shareholders are believed to be in an advanced stage, with another as yet unnamed wealthy US investor believed to be involved.

Marathe's 49ers Enterprises previously bought an initial 15 percent share in Leeds United back in 2018 before slowly increasing their stake and eventually taking full control of the Elland Road club back in 2023.

They are now looking to add Rangers to their stable of interests, exciting Ibrox fans with the potential of investment in players on the field, but also in modernising the structure of the club.’

Interesting that the governing body would now ‘look to encourage it’ eh?

In bold above :faf:

[greenlex]

I’m in Perth WA at the moment and just saw the goals from the Auckland v wellington on the tellybox. The black knights team Auckland won comfortably 6-1. The thing that struck me is the number of fans celebrating. Seemed a fair number. Is this a completely new team starting from scratch or has the franchise gobbled up an existing one?

[Bridge hibs]

I’m in Perth WA at the moment and just saw the goals from the Auckland v wellington on the tellybox. The black knights team Auckland won comfortably 6-1. The thing that struck me is the number of fans celebrating. Seemed a fair number. Is this a completely new team starting from scratch or has the franchise gobbled up an existing one?

Completely new team

[greenlex]

Completely new team

Fair amount of fans for a new team.

[Bridge hibs]

Fair amount of fans for a new team.

Yeah they seem to be well backed, being top of the league has also helped.

[Carheenlea]

Black knight chief explains Hibs transfer mechanisms.

https://www.hibsobserver.co.uk/interviews/25002070.black-knight-chief-explains-hibs-transfer-mechanisms/

[Lago]

Black knight chief explains Hibs transfer mechanisms.

https://www.hibsobserver.co.uk/interviews/25002070.black-knight-chief-explains-hibs-transfer-mechanisms/
Thanks for that a good read. 👍

[overdrive]

Black knight chief explains Hibs transfer mechanisms.

https://www.hibsobserver.co.uk/interviews/25002070.black-knight-chief-explains-hibs-transfer-mechanisms/

I'm surprised at the Hibs Observer getting basic facts wrong. Tim Bezbatchenko is not a director of the club. Foley and Ryan Caswell are the BKFC representatives on the Board. He wasn't even involved with BKFC in that time period they mention.

[CropleyWasGod]

I'm surprised at the Hibs Observer getting basic facts wrong. Tim Bezbatchenko is not a director of the club. Foley and Ryan Caswell are the BKFC representatives on the Board. He wasn't even involved with BKFC in that time period they mention.

Yeah, I noticed that too.

Now, having re-read the piece, it looks as if it's been corrected.

The power of Hibs.net :flag:

[Lago]

I'm surprised at the Hibs Observer getting basic facts wrong. Tim Bezbatchenko is not a director of the club. Foley and Ryan Caswell are the BKFC representatives on the Board. He wasn't even involved with BKFC in that time period they mention.
Your right, but it doesn't take away anything of the substance of the report which came across in a very positive way.

[Tha Cabbage Kid]

i wonder what bill foley's reaction was to sunshine on leith. if indeed he saw the two newest renditions of it at ER? Wonder what he is making or our undefeated run in the league too.

would he be likely to provide more funds for our player recruitment in the summer if we end up getting 3rd place?

[PHeffernan]

Black knight chief explains Hibs transfer mechanisms.

https://www.hibsobserver.co.uk/interviews/25002070.black-knight-chief-explains-hibs-transfer-mechanisms/

Bezbatchenko doesn't really say very much with all those words.
A very standard multi club business strategy and nothing that we didn't already know.
Seeks to reassure us that they are good guys and blows some warm air up our kilts.

Not incidentally, season tickets are on sale now. Roll on up!

[Gmack7]

i wonder what bill foley's reaction was to sunshine on leith. if indeed he saw the two newest renditions of it at ER? Wonder what he is making or our undefeated run in the league too.

would he be likely to provide more funds for our player recruitment in the summer if we end up getting 3rd place?

As good as Bournemouth are doing, the best chance of watching one of the BK clubs in the champions league is Hibs, make it happen Bill

[Ozyhibby]

Bezbatchenko doesn't really say very much with all those words.
A very standard multi club business strategy and nothing that we didn't already know.
Seeks to reassure us that they are good guys and blows some warm air up our kilts.

Not incidentally, season tickets are for sale now. Roll on up!

That’s the way I read it as well. Nothing earth shattering in it.


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[Ozyhibby]

i wonder what bill foley's reaction was to sunshine on leith. if indeed he saw the two newest renditions of it at ER? Wonder what he is making or our undefeated run in the league too.

would he be likely to provide more funds for our player recruitment in the summer if we end up getting 3rd place?

Euro footy is very important whatever way we look at it.


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[Since90+2]

As good as Bournemouth are doing, the best chance of watching one of the BK clubs in the champions league is Hibs, make it happen Bill

Not sure about that, England could be looking at 6 or 7 clubs in the Champions League soon. If Bournemouth can replicate this season's form into next season they could achieve that.

Even if by some miracle we did finish 2nd we'd have to beat some very good sides to make the CL, never going to happen IMO.

[Hibees1973]

Euro footy is very important whatever way we look at it.


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It is indeed.

Particularly if it is regular and you manage to get to the group stages.

However, I did expect the Yam to be shopping for players in a different market to us by now given they have raked in a good few million in the last 2-3 years.

[alibaba]

It is indeed.

Particularly if it is regular and you manage to get to the group stages.

However, I did expect the Yam to be shopping for players in a different market to us by now given they have raked in a good few million in the last 2-3 years.

Not quite the way I see it yes you can make decent money but unless you qualify every season I think it even itself out you need a bigger squad which means on 2/3 year contract so the year you qualify that’s great but what happens the next season if you don’t


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[JohnM1875]

See Tony Blooms just bought a minority stake (19.1%) in Melbourne Victory. Seems these guys seem to be going for the same leagues.

Just have to hope we have the best investors in the Black Knights.

[Lago]

Bezbatchenko doesn't really say very much with all those words.
A very standard multi club business strategy and nothing that we didn't already know.
Seeks to reassure us that they are good guys and blows some warm air up our kilts.

Not incidentally, season tickets are on sale now. Roll on up!
What exactly would you have expected him to say?

[Hibs4185]

[QUOTE=JohnM1875;7917803]See Tony Blooms just bought a minority stake (19.1%) in Melbourne Victory. Seems these guys seem to be going for the same leagues.

Just have to hope we have the best investors in the Black Knights.[/QUOTE

Made his money from gambling. Of course he’s done well but I feel like the black knights are a safer bet so to speak

[ancient hibee]

It is indeed.

Particularly if it is regular and you manage to get to the group stages.

However, I did expect the Yam to be shopping for players in a different market to us by now given they have raked in a good few million in the last 2-3 years.

Yes but have still needed James Anderson to bail them out with £5M a year.

[cubehindthegoal]

What exactly would you have expected him to say?

Thought it was quite positive to be honest. He’s not going to tell us the minor detail, but what he said illuminated their thinking if you read what he says. They are still building it themselves too, and fairly early days now I understand it. Not a bad place for us to be as a Hibs fan I don’t think.

[Lago]

Thought it was quite positive to be honest. He’s not going to tell us the minor detail, but what he said illuminated their thinking if you read what he says. They are still building it themselves too, and fairly early days now I understand it. Not a bad place for us to be as a Hibs fan I don’t think.
Yep, agree. 👍

[PHeffernan]

What exactly would you have expected him to say?

He said exactly what I expected him to say ...










nothing.

Go get those season tickets.
That's all folks!

[Jock O]

He said exactly what I expected him to say ...


nothing.

Go get those season tickets.
That's all folks!

To be fair like most football execs, except the hilarious Ratcliffe at Man Utd basically blaming everyone but himself!

It was more interesting that he was speaking for the club in general as technically he is not an employee of Hibs is he? I assume from the last couple of communications he is now seen as running the football operations side for us now, which then means Malky either has a direct reporting line to him, or more likely a dotted line to him with a direct line to Ian Gordon? Not a big fan of the much mooted matrix management trend from a few years ago as it sometimes can be difficult to get decisions made or clear accountability in bigger organisations, but with such a small management team as Hibs it should not be a problem if communication is good.

I am not thinking it is a particular problem but its another area where the relationship seems to exist on a consultancy type basis, with I assume IG still having effective overall say on everything, but having effectively devolved the daily operational management and the majority of day to day decisions. If that is the case there is surely a case, and I know this is not going to be popular, for not going for a top level CEO, in effect Ian is controlling the purse strings and the board are there for corporate governance, so could we not exist with an Operating Manager, probably a title of COO for their ego boost, but at a much lesser salary than a CEO and is ultimately responsible for all the non footballing depts, but significant decisions made by the Exec and or the board? The outlier on that would be the need to drive bigger revenue streams, but in all honesty never thought that should be a CEO's responsibility but someone dedicated to this reporting into CEO.

[ancient hibee]

Technically? He has no standing at Hibs and will certainly not be running the football operations.

[Lago]

He said exactly what I expected him to say ...










nothing.

Go get those season tickets.
That's all folks!
You'll not be disappointed then.

[BoomtownHibees]

Black Knight Football Club has entered into a new strategic affiliation agreement with MLS side, Orlando City SC

[Bridge hibs]

Black Knight Football Club has entered into a new strategic affiliation agreement with MLS side, Orlando City SC

Yes, more Chris Muellers 🫣

[Billy Whizz]

Black Knight Football Club has entered into a new strategic affiliation agreement with MLS side, Orlando City SC

An away pre season friendly would be nice

[04Sauzee]

Black Knight Football Club has entered into a new strategic affiliation agreement with MLS side, Orlando City SC

Are they shareholders or just sharing best practices?

Edit...
More on the affiliation here

https://www.orlandocitysc.com/news/orlando-city-sc-announces-affiliation-agreement-with-black-knight-football-club

[007]

Black Knight Football Club has entered into a new strategic affiliation agreement with MLS side, Orlando City SC

It Disney bear thinking about how many Mickey Mouse players we've had in the past. Hopefully we don't get any on loan or we'll be Donald Ducked.

[bingo70]

An away pre season friendly would be nice

With the club putting on free busses for supporters 😃

[Billy Whizz]

With the club putting on free busses for supporters 😃

Don’t fancy being on your bus…..

[bingo70]

Don’t fancy being on your bus…..

As long as I got my own toilet I’d be fine 😜

Joking apart, what’s the MLS like these days? Is it still either superstars way out of our league or utter dross at the other end of the spectrum?

Is it likely someone not getting their game for an MLS could be useful for us?

[Dmas]

Find it quite strange Orlando have mentioned us as being part of the group they will work with but the Japanese team Kyogo sanga was only really announced as a partner of Bournemouth wonder what the difference is

[Bad Habits]

Black Knight Football Club has entered into a new strategic affiliation agreement with MLS side, Orlando City SC

Bring back the Mueller!

[Billy Whizz]

As long as I got my own toilet I’d be fine 😜

Joking apart, what’s the MLS like these days? Is it still either superstars way out of our league or utter dross at the other end of the spectrum?

Is it likely someone not getting their game for an MLS could be useful for us?
To be honest no idea
Would be too warm in July anyway, would be better in the winter

[Wilson]

Find it quite strange Orlando have mentioned us as being part of the group they will work with but the Japanese team Kyogo sanga was only really announced as a partner of Bournemouth wonder what the difference is

We're somebody to an mls team and nobody to the j leagues. Simple.

[HoboHarry]

To be honest no idea
Would be too warm in July anyway, would be better in the winter
I could be wrong Billy but I think their stadium is air conditioned. I don't follow MLS but climate controlled stadiums are around, in baseball the Houston Astros are and I've been there a few times. Clearly when you leave its still warm outside, I just wasn't sure if you were talking about the heat in general terms or for watching a game.

[HoboHarry]

I was there a while back when Kaka played for them and there wasn’t any air con.
Open to the elements mostly which seemed daft as it was too hot to face the sun for a couple of hours.
First time I saw water breaks and no wonder.
They had song sheets between every seat.
The ultras were a flipping mass band, brilliant atmosphere and probably better than the game deserved.

The houses around the stadium advertise their driveways to park in for a fee.
Was it the old stadium you visited? Kaka left them I think in 2017 which was the same year the Inter&Co stadium opened?

[bingo70]

Not Orlando related however I see L’orient have been promoted back to Ligue 1 for next season.

I wonder if there fans are warming to the BK’s at all and if their promotion could have a knock on effect for any players coming our way?

[Billy Whizz]

I could be wrong Billy but I think their stadium is air conditioned. I don't follow MLS but climate controlled stadiums are around, in baseball the Houston Astros are and I've been there a few times. Clearly when you leave its still warm outside, I just wasn't sure if you were talking about the heat in general terms or for watching a game.

I meant too hot for the fans😀

[flash]

I am off to Orlando in a couple of weeks so will find out what the script is from the locals.

[matty_f]

Not Orlando related however I see L’orient have been promoted back to Ligue 1 for next season.

I wonder if there fans are warming to the BK’s at all and if their promotion could have a knock on effect for any players coming our way?

They certainly seem to have a bit of a Midas touch - Bournemouth in the running for Europe, just beat their record points total (after setting the record last season), opened a world class training facility and just announced a stadium upgrade; Lorient promoted back to the top flight; Auckland champions in their first season; and the best of the bunch - Hibernian sitting in third going into the final four games of the season in the Scottish top flight.

Pretty decent season for them.

[bingo70]

They certainly seem to have a bit of a Midas touch - Bournemouth in the running for Europe, just beat their record points total (after setting the record last season), opened a world class training facility and just announced a stadium upgrade; Lorient promoted back to the top flight; Auckland champions in their first season; and the best of the bunch - Hibernian sitting in third going into the final four games of the season in the Scottish top flight.

Pretty decent season for them.

When it’s spread over 4 teams, that can’t just be down to luck.

[Hibernian Verse]

When it’s spread over 4 teams, that can’t just be down to luck.

You're right. It's good to see Rocky's influence spreading amongst the group.

[Centre Hawf]

Find it quite strange Orlando have mentioned us as being part of the group they will work with but the Japanese team Kyogo sanga was only really announced as a partner of Bournemouth wonder what the difference is

Kyoto Sanga and Orlando City's relationship to BKFC appear to be the same. Kyoto are not part of the group but are a partnership that must share scouting/data etc for players in that region amongst all the other things that get listed off in these partnerships.

[Onceinawhile]

They certainly seem to have a bit of a Midas touch - Bournemouth in the running for Europe, just beat their record points total (after setting the record last season), opened a world class training facility and just announced a stadium upgrade; Lorient promoted back to the top flight; Auckland champions in their first season; and the best of the bunch - Hibernian sitting in third going into the final four games of the season in the Scottish top flight.

Pretty decent season for them.

VGK in the play offs too.

[bingo70]

VGK in the play offs too.

Who are they?

[Onceinawhile]

Who are they?

Las Vegas Golden Knights (NHL)

[04Sauzee]

Bournemouth's new performance centre

https://x.com/afcbournemouth/status/1917640093772439654?t=5ekdW50A59fdomo6SDF23g&s=19

[MacGruber]

Bournemouth's new performance centre

https://x.com/afcbournemouth/status/1917640093772439654?t=5ekdW50A59fdomo6SDF23g&s=19

That's absolutely superb

[Lago]

Bournemouth's new performance centre

https://x.com/afcbournemouth/status/1917640093772439654?t=5ekdW50A59fdomo6SDF23g&s=19
Now that really is impressive,
Thanks for posting

[CropleyWasGod]

Just had a wee keek at Bournemouth's latest accounts.

They owe BKFC £140m.

[bingo70]

Just had a wee keek at Bournemouth's latest accounts.

They owe BKFC £140m.

Is that likely to be paid back when the club is eventually sold, whenever that may be?

Presumably that won’t be something they would be expected to pay back any time soon?

[CropleyWasGod]

Is that likely to be paid back when the club is eventually sold, whenever that may be?

Presumably that won’t be something they would be expected to pay back any time soon?

"These are interest free loans, unsecured and repayable on demand with a final repayment date of 12 December 2032."

If the club is sold, BKFC would be paid that loan plus whatever the value of their shares is. In other words, the new owner would have to stump it up.

[CentreLine]

"These are interest free loans, unsecured and repayable on demand with a final repayment date of 12 December 2032."

If the club is sold, BKFC would be paid that loan plus whatever the value of their shares is. In other words, the new owner would have to stump it up.

Should we be comfortable with that model? Not that it’s necessarily the way our company would go.
Could it be that a comparative amount would simply equate to ownership changing to BKFC?

[CapitalGreen]

Should we be comfortable with that model? Not that it’s necessarily the way our company would go.
Could it be that a comparative amount would simply equate to ownership changing to BKFC?

Bournemouth were due their previous owner ~£160m at the time of the takeover.

[Kato]

Just had a wee keek at Bournemouth's latest accounts.

They owe BKFC £140m.Probably the equivalent of our £7M loss.

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[Jock O]

"These are interest free loans, unsecured and repayable on demand with a final repayment date of 12 December 2032."

If the club is sold, BKFC would be paid that loan plus whatever the value of their shares is. In other words, the new owner would have to stump it up.

I think they made a significant cash injection in their accounts in order to turn pretty big losses around, but were they not also raising money from their outside investors, which I seem to remember include the much maligned Blackrock, for a further cash injection this year?

Given Bournemouth's tiny capacity it means they really need to top up the TV revenues to compete I assume. Sure I read there was little scope for bigger ground, but assume that would only be relevant to existing ground?

[JohnM1875]

Should we be comfortable with that model? Not that it’s necessarily the way our company would go.
Could it be that a comparative amount would simply equate to ownership changing to BKFC?

Gordons just wrote off* £7mil after poor ownership.

Its just modern football, as ****ed up as it is.

*maybe didn't write it off.

[chippy]

Gordons just wrote off* £7mil after poor ownership.

Its just modern football, as ****ed up as it is.

*maybe didn't write it off.

Im grateful the Gordon’s paid off the debt- it was their fault- but £7m to them is probably covered by interest on their multi millions in investments.

[JohnM1875]

Bournemouth's new performance centre

https://x.com/afcbournemouth/status/1917640093772439654?t=5ekdW50A59fdomo6SDF23g&s=19

Seriously impressive eh?

[Dmas]

"These are interest free loans, unsecured and repayable on demand with a final repayment date of 12 December 2032."

If the club is sold, BKFC would be paid that loan plus whatever the value of their shares is. In other words, the new owner would have to stump it up.

There is also a new company called Black Knight Stadium Limited as of 9/4/24 only shareholder being BKFC so looks like Bournemouth may also be renting a new stadium, unless its rent free to the point of a sale by BKFC and a way to avoid FFP rules, Everton really suffered with cost of the new stadium when they where deducted points

[hibsforeurope]

Bournemouth's new performance centre

https://x.com/afcbournemouth/status/1917640093772439654?t=5ekdW50A59fdomo6SDF23g&s=19

The drone flying skills are almost as impressive as the facility it's self.

i wonder what our new training base will be like after the new build is complete.

[hibsforeurope]

I think they made a significant cash injection in their accounts in order to turn pretty big losses around, but were they not also raising money from their outside investors, which I seem to remember include the much maligned Blackrock, for a further cash injection this year?

Given Bournemouth's tiny capacity it means they really need to top up the TV revenues to compete I assume. Sure I read there was little scope for bigger ground, but assume that would only be relevant to existing ground?

would some of this capital raised be for the recent purchase of Dean Court? or would that show under the Black Knights Stadium LTD?

[04Sauzee]

There is also a new company called Black Knight Stadium Limited as of 9/4/24 only shareholder being BKFC so looks like Bournemouth may also be renting a new stadium, unless its rent free to the point of a sale by BKFC and a way to avoid FFP rules, Everton really suffered with cost of the new stadium when they where deducted points

Did I not see Bill Foley saying they were now staying out and expanding the current stadium after talks about moving. Think he said a new build could take years, staying where they were he said nobody would have to move seat and it would be quicker and cheaper and get the same result ultimately.

[hibsforeurope]

Did I not see Bill Foley saying they were now staying out and expanding the current stadium after talks about moving. Think he said a new build could take years, staying where they were he said nobody would have to move seat and it would be quicker and cheaper and get the same result ultimately.

He said, at the opening of the training base (i think), that they are expanding the current ground up to 20-23,000 with it expected to be ready in 2.5-3 years.

[offshorehibby]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6eS8diV4rg

I watched this the other day regarding the Bournmouth stadium.

[ruthven_raiders]

The drone flying skills are almost as impressive as the facility it's self.

i wonder what our new training base will be like after the new build is complete.

Impressive set up and drone skills were amazing! 🤣🤣

[Pete70]

Good to see they were thinking of Hibs when deciding the colour scheme of their canteen area.