The Black Knights

[bingo70]

The 115-charges case is still ongoing. This was a separate one.

What was the one about that was concluded yesterday?

What’s the difference between the two cases?

[Vini1875]

If the BK wanted to increase their share holding in Hibs to 51% and were allowed to do it, why would the Gordon's give up control and become a minority share holder?

I could understand them reaching a point where they don't want to spend anymore money and come to see that Ron's legacy hasn't been realised, possibly after Kit has gone and it is only Ian pouring money into his father's dream. Then I think he would want to sell his entire share holding and move on to his own dreams.

I just don't see a road that leads to the BK getting to 51% and Bill Foley can't exactly play the long game on this, he is 82 right now.

Also how much investment has been made in their other teams in the BK group? I'm sure Bournemouth have had money pumped in and obviously the EPL is awash with money, but have the others? I don't see what we have got from this deal so far and personally I feel a little let down from the initial high of them coming in and what they would bring.

[04Sauzee]

Lorient are top of ligue 2
Auckland are top of the A league
Bournemouth are 7th in the Premiership

Clubs are doing well.

Bournemouth up to 5th

[Unseen work]

As much as I like the thought of us benefitting from Bournemouth and the black knights

It really loses its appeal and I don’t like the thought of it just becoming the norm and more or less every club being part of a bigger group

[CropleyWasGod]

What was the one about that was concluded yesterday?

What’s the difference between the two cases?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c78xpp3vlkko

This one was a more general one than the big one, which is just about City.

[matty_f]

If the BK wanted to increase their share holding in Hibs to 51% and were allowed to do it, why would the Gordon's give up control and become a minority share holder?

I could understand them reaching a point where they don't want to spend anymore money and come to see that Ron's legacy hasn't been realised, possibly after Kit has gone and it is only Ian pouring money into his father's dream. Then I think he would want to sell his entire share holding and move on to his own dreams.

I just don't see a road that leads to the BK getting to 51% and Bill Foley can't exactly play the long game on this, he is 82 right now.

Also how much investment has been made in their other teams in the BK group? I'm sure Bournemouth have had money pumped in and obviously the EPL is awash with money, but have the others? I don't see what we have got from this deal so far and personally I feel a little let down from the initial high of them coming in and what they would bring.

I don’t think there’s any indication that the authorities are going to soften the C 30% maximum holding that BKFC are allowed at the moment and so that’s what they’re working on.

For us to really get the benefit of the relationship we need a lot of collaboration and willingness from the Gordon family to act as part of the group.

If they don’t do that , then there’s not a lot of incentive for BKFC to spend more time and money on Hibs than they already have.

You’d have to think that there was agreement on how it would look before the investment was confirmed and that both sides saw potential benefits.

I know everyone has their own views on it but I’m comfortable being part of a wider group if it makes us significantly better. If we’re not then there’s no point in doing it.

[Paulie Walnuts]

As much as I like the thought of us benefitting from Bournemouth and the black knights

It really loses its appeal and I don’t like the thought of it just becoming the norm and more or less every club being part of a bigger group

Put simply, I just like the idea of Hibs being good at football. The black nights appear our best option for that imo.

[ancient hibee]

Lorient are top of ligue 2
Auckland are top of the A league
Bournemouth are 7th in the Premiership

Clubs are doing well.

You’ve missed a Club.:greengrin

[bingo70]

Rangers in advanced talks to be sold to the owners of the 49’rs.

Do they not own Leeds as well? Could this be what sets the wheels in motion to properly allow multi club owners in Scottish football?

[Dmas]

Rangers in advanced talks to be sold to the owners of the 49’rs.

Do they not own Leeds as well? Could this be what sets the wheels in motion to properly allow multi club owners in Scottish football?

Was just about to post this, they own Leeds yeah red bull have some sort of percentage as well but sure they bought they out for 170m so must be majority owners

[bingo70]

Was just about to post this, they own Leeds yeah red bull have some sort of percentage as well but sure they bought they out for 170m so must be majority owners

I tried reading the story in one of the red tops but it was basically unreadable due to adverts popping up.

Is it the same group looking to buy Rangers or is it an individual who’s involved with them who is also looking to invest in Rangers? (If that makes sense)

[JohnM1875]

I tried reading the story in one of the red tops but it was basically unreadable due to adverts popping up.

Is it the same group looking to buy Rangers or is it an individual who’s involved with them who is also looking to invest in Rangers? (If that makes sense)

Its a consortium. But the guy involved, Marathie is the man in charge of the NFL giants investment arm and Leeds chairman.

Also mentions the York family who own 49ers and Leeds. Net worth of around $6 billion.

[Dmas]

I tried reading the story in one of the red tops but it was basically unreadable due to adverts popping up.

Is it the same group looking to buy Rangers or is it an individual who’s involved with them who is also looking to invest in Rangers? (If that makes sense)

49er Enterprises same that own Leeds, according to Keith Jackson

[JohnM1875]

Rangers are at the centre of a potentially transformative US led takeover bid – a deal that would see them bankrolled by the enormous financial muscle of the San Francisco 49ers.

The Daily Record has learned top-level discussions over a multi-million pound investment began before the turn of the year – and they are now believed to be at ‘an advanced stage’. And if an agreement can be thrashed out the Ibrox club stand to benefit from a major cash injection which would then fund a spending splurge in the summer transfer market.

Sources from south of the border have confirmed one of the key men behind the proposal is Leeds United chairman Paraag Marathe – the man in charge of the NFL giants’ investment arm, 49ers Enterprises. Marathe – who is also executive vice president of football operations in San Francisco – was the architect in chief of a takeover of the Elland Road Club which took a step closer to a Premier League return on Monday night with a dramatic late win over Sunderland.

It’s understood he is now part of a consortium – including at least one other high net worth American business mogul – which hopes to restore Rangers to the top of the Scottish game after years spent languishing in the shadow of Old Firm rivals Celtic.

The American consortium plans to snap up enough shares to become the biggest single shareholder in the club and would be likely to demand seats in a new look boardroom. The finer details behind the move are not yet clear but the current configuration of major shareholders means that any deal will be complicated.

Former chairman Dave King who owns almost 13 per cent, Douglas Park retains nearly 12 per cent, George Taylor holds just over 10 per cent, Stuart Gibson is not far behind with John Bennett on around seven per cent. Directors Julian Wolhardt and John Halsted share a combined stake of just over 12 per cent.

While Marathe has not played a leading role in the takeover discussions it’s understood he has agreed to help fund it as his group closes in on a deal to oversee a revolutionary transfer of power in the boardroom. In return, not only would Rangers receive a massive injection of transfer cash but the club would also gain access to the 49ers cutting edge, data driven technology for player recruitment as well as open the door to a number of money spinning sponsorships and new commercial tie ups.

The would be buyers view Rangers as a perfect investment opportunity given the club’s regular access to UEFA elite competitions, either in the Champions League or Europa League. And Marathe’s knowledge of the landscape of the British game, coupled with his position with the cash rich 49ers are seen as hugely significant.

He recently headed up a gradual, staged takeover of Leeds United, bankrolled by the York family - owners of the 49ers and listed by Forbes Magazine as having a net worth of around 6 billion dollars.

Francisco 49ers Enterprises - the investment wing of the NFL giants - first purchased a 15 per cent stake in the Elland Road outfit in 2018. Three years later Marathe increased that stake to 44 per cent. In the summer of 2023 he completed a £170m deal to buy the club outright.

Hollywood star Will Ferrell subsequently snapped up a minority holding and revealed afterwards he was convinced to get involved following discussions with Marathe. Leeds are currently closing in on a return to the top flight of English football, with Daniel ****e’s side sitting in pole position in the Championship and with Marathe in charge as chairman.

They have also raked in more than £150m from recent player sales including Archie Gray’s £42m move to Spurs and Glen Kamara’s £10m transfer to Rennes - which came just 12 months after the Finland international’s £5m move from Rangers.

The Americans believe Marathe’s expertise can help him transform the fortunes of Rangers at a time when the club is being ravaged by internal unrest. Philippe Clement’s side hit rock bottom earlier this month when they were dumped out of the Scottish Cup by Championship minnows Queen’s Park, sparking a furious response in the stands.

And a section of away supporters at Tynecastle on Sunday demanded change at the top of the club during a 3-1 league win over Hearts. Rangers have won just a single Premiership title since King swept to power a decade ago and the Americans see similarities with the 49ers.

The York family dynasty have run the San Francisco franchise since the turn of the century after winning control of the outfit following a legal battle with former owner Edward J DeBartolo Jnr. DeBartolo Jnr had enjoyed unprecedented success with the 49ers during the 80s and 90s - winning five Superbowls.

He turned over ownership in 2000 to his sister – billionaire businesswoman Denise DeBartolo York and her husband John York, a retired cancer research pathologist. The couple then handed over control of the 49ers to son Jed York in 2008.

[cabbageandribs1875]

DON'T DO IT 49ers FFS :brickwall:brickwall:brickwall

[degenerated]

I don’t think there’s any indication that the authorities are going to soften the C 30% maximum holding that BKFC are allowed at the moment and so that’s what they’re working on.

For us to really get the benefit of the relationship we need a lot of collaboration and willingness from the Gordon family to act as part of the group.

If they don’t do that , then there’s not a lot of incentive for BKFC to spend more time and money on Hibs than they already have.

You’d have to think that there was agreement on how it would look before the investment was confirmed and that both sides saw potential benefits.

I know everyone has their own views on it but I’m comfortable being part of a wider group if it makes us significantly better. If we’re not then there’s no point in doing it.If the 49ers are looking to buy the Huns, whilst also owning Leeds then the rules will be changed pronto.

[CapitalGreen]

Will be interesting to see how the staunchest of Huns feel about their club being owned by a Catholic family.

[JohnM1875]

Will be interesting to see how the staunchest of Huns feel about their club being owned by a Catholic family.

Had a wee look on Follow Follow and almost all of them seem desperate for the investment.

A few are obviously sceptical with it being the DR reporting it.

[Aldo]

Rangers are at the centre of a potentially transformative US led takeover bid – a deal that would see them bankrolled by the enormous financial muscle of the San Francisco 49ers.

The Daily Record has learned top-level discussions over a multi-million pound investment began before the turn of the year – and they are now believed to be at ‘an advanced stage’. And if an agreement can be thrashed out the Ibrox club stand to benefit from a major cash injection which would then fund a spending splurge in the summer transfer market.

Sources from south of the border have confirmed one of the key men behind the proposal is Leeds United chairman Paraag Marathe – the man in charge of the NFL giants’ investment arm, 49ers Enterprises. Marathe – who is also executive vice president of football operations in San Francisco – was the architect in chief of a takeover of the Elland Road Club which took a step closer to a Premier League return on Monday night with a dramatic late win over Sunderland.

It’s understood he is now part of a consortium – including at least one other high net worth American business mogul – which hopes to restore Rangers to the top of the Scottish game after years spent languishing in the shadow of Old Firm rivals Celtic.

The American consortium plans to snap up enough shares to become the biggest single shareholder in the club and would be likely to demand seats in a new look boardroom. The finer details behind the move are not yet clear but the current configuration of major shareholders means that any deal will be complicated.

Former chairman Dave King who owns almost 13 per cent, Douglas Park retains nearly 12 per cent, George Taylor holds just over 10 per cent, Stuart Gibson is not far behind with John Bennett on around seven per cent. Directors Julian Wolhardt and John Halsted share a combined stake of just over 12 per cent.

While Marathe has not played a leading role in the takeover discussions it’s understood he has agreed to help fund it as his group closes in on a deal to oversee a revolutionary transfer of power in the boardroom. In return, not only would Rangers receive a massive injection of transfer cash but the club would also gain access to the 49ers cutting edge, data driven technology for player recruitment as well as open the door to a number of money spinning sponsorships and new commercial tie ups.

The would be buyers view Rangers as a perfect investment opportunity given the club’s regular access to UEFA elite competitions, either in the Champions League or Europa League. And Marathe’s knowledge of the landscape of the British game, coupled with his position with the cash rich 49ers are seen as hugely significant.

He recently headed up a gradual, staged takeover of Leeds United, bankrolled by the York family - owners of the 49ers and listed by Forbes Magazine as having a net worth of around 6 billion dollars.

Francisco 49ers Enterprises - the investment wing of the NFL giants - first purchased a 15 per cent stake in the Elland Road outfit in 2018. Three years later Marathe increased that stake to 44 per cent. In the summer of 2023 he completed a £170m deal to buy the club outright.

Hollywood star Will Ferrell subsequently snapped up a minority holding and revealed afterwards he was convinced to get involved following discussions with Marathe. Leeds are currently closing in on a return to the top flight of English football, with Daniel ****e’s side sitting in pole position in the Championship and with Marathe in charge as chairman.

They have also raked in more than £150m from recent player sales including Archie Gray’s £42m move to Spurs and Glen Kamara’s £10m transfer to Rennes - which came just 12 months after the Finland international’s £5m move from Rangers.

The Americans believe Marathe’s expertise can help him transform the fortunes of Rangers at a time when the club is being ravaged by internal unrest. Philippe Clement’s side hit rock bottom earlier this month when they were dumped out of the Scottish Cup by Championship minnows Queen’s Park, sparking a furious response in the stands.

And a section of away supporters at Tynecastle on Sunday demanded change at the top of the club during a 3-1 league win over Hearts. Rangers have won just a single Premiership title since King swept to power a decade ago and the Americans see similarities with the 49ers.

The York family dynasty have run the San Francisco franchise since the turn of the century after winning control of the outfit following a legal battle with former owner Edward J DeBartolo Jnr. DeBartolo Jnr had enjoyed unprecedented success with the 49ers during the 80s and 90s - winning five Superbowls.

He turned over ownership in 2000 to his sister – billionaire businesswoman Denise DeBartolo York and her husband John York, a retired cancer research pathologist. The couple then handed over control of the 49ers to son Jed York in 2008.

Funnily enough Jackson has failed to mention or maybe deliberately omitted the bit about dual ownership in Scotland and the maximum the current rules allow.

Wouldn’t surprise me if it’s given the green light by the powers that be without any hoops to jump through like we did.

I would even suggest plain sailing given who it is.

[JohnM1875]

Funnily enough Jackson has failed to mention or maybe deliberately omitted the bit about dual ownership in Scotland and the maximum the current rules allow.

Wouldn’t surprise me if it’s given the green light by the powers that be without any hoops to jump through like we did.

I would even suggest plain sailing given who it is.

Probably why he's not bothered mentioning it. Knows if the Huns want it, they'll get it.

[Aldo]

Probably why he's not bothered mentioning it. Knows if the Huns want it, they'll get it.

Yeah that’s my take on it.

[CropleyWasGod]

Funnily enough Jackson has failed to mention or maybe deliberately omitted the bit about dual ownership in Scotland and the maximum the current rules allow.

Wouldn’t surprise me if it’s given the green light by the powers that be without any hoops to jump through like we did.

I would even suggest plain sailing given who it is.

Reading that article, the dual-ownership rules wouldn't be an immediate issue, if it's done the same way as the investment in Leeds. That was staged over a few years, starting with 15%. That size of holding would make them the largest shareholder, which is what the article says they want.

[Aldo]

Reading that article, the dual-ownership rules wouldn't be an issue, if it's done the same way as the investment in Leeds. That was staged over a few years, starting with 15%. That size of holding would make them the largest shareholder, which is what the article says they want.

Thanks for that CWG. Reading it again it does seem that way. Mind you you never know with that mob.

[HoboHarry]

Rangers are at the centre of a potentially transformative US led takeover bid – a deal that would see them bankrolled by the enormous financial muscle of the San Francisco 49ers.

The Daily Record has learned top-level discussions over a multi-million pound investment began before the turn of the year – and they are now believed to be at ‘an advanced stage’. And if an agreement can be thrashed out the Ibrox club stand to benefit from a major cash injection which would then fund a spending splurge in the summer transfer market.

Sources from south of the border have confirmed one of the key men behind the proposal is Leeds United chairman Paraag Marathe – the man in charge of the NFL giants’ investment arm, 49ers Enterprises. Marathe – who is also executive vice president of football operations in San Francisco – was the architect in chief of a takeover of the Elland Road Club which took a step closer to a Premier League return on Monday night with a dramatic late win over Sunderland.

It’s understood he is now part of a consortium – including at least one other high net worth American business mogul – which hopes to restore Rangers to the top of the Scottish game after years spent languishing in the shadow of Old Firm rivals Celtic.

The American consortium plans to snap up enough shares to become the biggest single shareholder in the club and would be likely to demand seats in a new look boardroom. The finer details behind the move are not yet clear but the current configuration of major shareholders means that any deal will be complicated.

Former chairman Dave King who owns almost 13 per cent, Douglas Park retains nearly 12 per cent, George Taylor holds just over 10 per cent, Stuart Gibson is not far behind with John Bennett on around seven per cent. Directors Julian Wolhardt and John Halsted share a combined stake of just over 12 per cent.

While Marathe has not played a leading role in the takeover discussions it’s understood he has agreed to help fund it as his group closes in on a deal to oversee a revolutionary transfer of power in the boardroom. In return, not only would Rangers receive a massive injection of transfer cash but the club would also gain access to the 49ers cutting edge, data driven technology for player recruitment as well as open the door to a number of money spinning sponsorships and new commercial tie ups.

The would be buyers view Rangers as a perfect investment opportunity given the club’s regular access to UEFA elite competitions, either in the Champions League or Europa League. And Marathe’s knowledge of the landscape of the British game, coupled with his position with the cash rich 49ers are seen as hugely significant.

He recently headed up a gradual, staged takeover of Leeds United, bankrolled by the York family - owners of the 49ers and listed by Forbes Magazine as having a net worth of around 6 billion dollars.

Francisco 49ers Enterprises - the investment wing of the NFL giants - first purchased a 15 per cent stake in the Elland Road outfit in 2018. Three years later Marathe increased that stake to 44 per cent. In the summer of 2023 he completed a £170m deal to buy the club outright.

Hollywood star Will Ferrell subsequently snapped up a minority holding and revealed afterwards he was convinced to get involved following discussions with Marathe. Leeds are currently closing in on a return to the top flight of English football, with Daniel ****e’s side sitting in pole position in the Championship and with Marathe in charge as chairman.

They have also raked in more than £150m from recent player sales including Archie Gray’s £42m move to Spurs and Glen Kamara’s £10m transfer to Rennes - which came just 12 months after the Finland international’s £5m move from Rangers.

The Americans believe Marathe’s expertise can help him transform the fortunes of Rangers at a time when the club is being ravaged by internal unrest. Philippe Clement’s side hit rock bottom earlier this month when they were dumped out of the Scottish Cup by Championship minnows Queen’s Park, sparking a furious response in the stands.

And a section of away supporters at Tynecastle on Sunday demanded change at the top of the club during a 3-1 league win over Hearts. Rangers have won just a single Premiership title since King swept to power a decade ago and the Americans see similarities with the 49ers.

The York family dynasty have run the San Francisco franchise since the turn of the century after winning control of the outfit following a legal battle with former owner Edward J DeBartolo Jnr. DeBartolo Jnr had enjoyed unprecedented success with the 49ers during the 80s and 90s - winning five Superbowls.

He turned over ownership in 2000 to his sister – billionaire businesswoman Denise DeBartolo York and her husband John York, a retired cancer research pathologist. The couple then handed over control of the 49ers to son Jed York in 2008.
It's an obvious question, but if they have real cash to invest why wouldn't they go for another English team similar to the Leeds model that's mentioned? They would prefer a debt ridden Sevco with a crumbling stadium and it's probably a coincidence that we are getting close to ST sales. I smell shioite....

[Kato]

If the 49ers are looking to buy the Huns, whilst also owning Leeds then the rules will be changed pronto.Good.

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[CropleyWasGod]

It's an obvious question, but if they have real cash to invest why wouldn't they go for another English team similar to the Leeds model that's mentioned? They would prefer a debt ridden Sevco with a crumbling stadium and it's probably a coincidence that we are getting close to ST sales. I smell shioite....

They have just published a share issue of 18m shares, for £360k. That could be capitalisation of some of the loans, or it could be new money.

How that fits into the story ....... ?

PS, for comic relief, they ****ed up the paperwork. The first, hastily-corrected, version had them issuing £18m in shares :greengrin

[Chorley Hibee]

Isn't this latest Rangers are back puff piece a coincidence, especially as it comes on the same day they've just announced their latest share issue in order to keep the lights on.

No sane person is getting involved with that mob.

[HoboHarry]

They have just published a share issue of 18m shares, for £360k. That could be capitalisation of some of the loans, or it could be new money.

How that fits into the story ....... ?

PS, for comic relief, they ****ed up the paperwork. The first, hastily-corrected, version had them issuing £18m in shares :greengrin
They don't happen to have a current tax bill or similar due in the amount of $360,000 do they per chance? (Sorry don't have a pound sign on my keyboard :greengrin)

[bingo70]

Isn't this latest Rangers are back puff piece a coincidence, especially as it comes on the same day they've just announced their latest share issue in order to keep the lights on.

No sane person is getting involved with that mob.

I don’t know, rangers (and Celtic) are huge clubs with genuine worldwide appeal and guaranteed European football. If you’re happy to ignore why they’re such a big club and such a huge following, there’s lots of potential there imo unfortunately.

Obviously that’s not taking into account any financial baggage that comes with buying them, I’ve no idea what debt or court cases any purchaser would have to deal with.

[bingo70]

https://x.com/frazfletcher/status/1892306936311197900?s=46&t=VghJuoU_bl8ISs-zf5CmHg

“Ask for a Leeds insight on the 49'ers and the impact on their club. Here is what i was told:

Paraag Marathe is Chairman of Leeds and executive chairman of S49ers.

He’s is absolutely loaded but the business model involves recruiting high end businessmen and sports stars to invest into their Enterprises. The formula tends to work.

Leeds are majority owned by 49ers Enterprises, but there are a long list who have stakes in that and therefore Leeds i.e - Will Ferrell, Larry Nance, Jordan Spieth, Michael Phelps, Russell Crowe & dozens more.

49'ers have seen success under them and they’ve also had moderate success at*Leeds*so*far, taking them to the brink of a Premier League return”


I think that’s basically the same model the Black Knights use.

[HoboHarry]

I don’t know, rangers (and Celtic) are huge clubs with genuine worldwide appeal and guaranteed European football. If you’re happy to ignore why they’re such a big club and such a huge following, there’s lots of potential there imo unfortunately.

Obviously that’s not taking into account any financial baggage that comes with buying them, I’ve no idea what debt or court cases any purchaser would have to deal with.

I've heard many times about this worldwide appeal and after 25 years here I just don't see it. The east coast may be different but in all that time I've seen a small number of Celtic shirts and not one single Rangers shirt, not a single one. Wads and wads of the top English and Spanish clubs but Celtic and Rangers? Not what I see....

[ancient hibee]

If Rangers issue new shares for the 49ers to buy what will be the effect on the current major shareholders? Will they accept a dilution in the hope of the value eventually going up ?

[tamig]

49er Enterprises same that own Leeds, according to Keith Jackson

They’ll need to get that name changed to the 55ers.

[Itsnoteasy]

They’ll need to get that name changed to the 55ers.

Or the

2012 ers

[007]

The 2-3ers.

[matty_f]

If the 49ers are looking to buy the Huns, whilst also owning Leeds then the rules will be changed pronto.

Here's hoping.

[cekim]

1690ers

[Just_Jimmy]

Rangers in advanced talks to be sold to the owners of the 49’rs.

Do they not own Leeds as well? Could this be what sets the wheels in motion to properly allow multi club owners in Scottish football?What makes you think they'll change the rules to suit sevco? [emoji849]

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[Chorley Hibee]

What makes you think they'll change the rules to suit sevco? [emoji849]

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Remember all the pre-conditions attached to the Black Knights investment that the authorities wanted?

Watch them mysteriously disappear into thin air now.

[CropleyWasGod]

What makes you think they'll change the rules to suit sevco? [emoji849]

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Remember all the pre-conditions attached to the Black Knights investment that the authorities wanted?

Watch them mysteriously disappear into thin air now.

According to the DR, they want to be the largest shareholder. At the moment, that would be anything over 13%.

That would tie in with how they approached the Leeds ownership (15% to begin with).

So there would be no need for any change in the rules.

[matty_f]

According to the DR, they want to be the largest shareholder. At the moment, that would be anything over 13%.

That would tie in with how they approached the Leeds ownership (15% to begin with).

So there would be no need for any change in the rules.

What's the rule at the moment? We needed an exemption to allow BKFC to buy up to a maximum of 30%.

[CropleyWasGod]

What's the rule at the moment? We needed an exemption to allow BKFC to buy up to a maximum of 30%.

Actually, a quick Google tells me it's actually 0% :rolleyes:

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/14368413/rangers-san-francisco-49ers-takeover-leeds-sfa-rules/#:~:text=Most%20read%20in%20Football&text=Article%2013%20in%20the%20Scottish,the%20deal %20is%20rubber%2Dstamped.

I know that's the Sun, but they do directly quote the SFA rules.

That said, having granted us up to 29.9%, they'd be hard-pushed to reject Rangers 15%, if that's how it plays out

Edit.... obviously blown out of the water by the post on the Rangers thread :greengrin

[bingo70]

Actually, a quick Google tells me it's actually 0% :rolleyes:

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/14368413/rangers-san-francisco-49ers-takeover-leeds-sfa-rules/#:~:text=Most%20read%20in%20Football&text=Article%2013%20in%20the%20Scottish,the%20deal %20is%20rubber%2Dstamped.

I know that's the Sun, but they do directly quote the SFA rules.

That said, having granted us up to 29.9%, they'd be hard-pushed to reject Rangers 15%, if that's how it plays out

Edit.... obviously blown out of the water by the post on the Rangers thread :greengrin

They wouldn’t necessarily reject it but surely they would be made to jump through the same hoops and meet the same criteria that we had to? It shouldn’t just be a given with no begging involved?

[Paulie Walnuts]

They wouldn’t necessarily reject it but surely they would be made to jump through the same hoops and meet the same criteria that we had to? It shouldn’t just be a given with no begging involved?

Was ours approved on a case by case basis? Or were the rules amended? If it’s the latter than they should be able to do it no questions asked, if it’s the firmer though then they should definitely have to go through the same process.

[hibstag]

I've heard many times about this worldwide appeal and after 25 years here I just don't see it. The east coast may be different but in all that time I've seen a small number of Celtic shirts and not one single Rangers shirt, not a single one. Wads and wads of the top English and Spanish clubs but Celtic and Rangers? Not what I see....

I agree Small enclaves of ex pats is not worldwide appeal...

[hibsforeurope]

If the Huns are allowed to let the Leeds majority shareholder/owner have a 50% shareholding what’s to stop Bill Foley and the BKFC buying us out right now?

[HoboHarry]

I agree Small enclaves of ex pats is not worldwide appeal...
I was really meaning the locals, there's more and more people wearing football shirts but not a single one belongs to the uglies from what I see. Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool, Real, Barcelona are the main ones I see and the occasional PSG shirt as well. For the ex-pats around here it's Aberdeen shirts I see the most from the oil guys.

[bingo70]

If the Huns are allowed to let the Leeds majority shareholder/owner have a 50% shareholding what’s to stop Bill Foley and the BKFC buying us out right now?

Is it the same group that would be owning Leeds and Rangers or is it people within that group who are involved?

The wording of the stories seems to be making out like it’s not the same as the Black knights involvement with us. I’ve never seen mention of Rangers coming part of a multi club structure for example?

[Greenworld]

If the Huns are allowed to let the Leeds majority shareholder/owner have a 50% shareholding what’s to stop Bill Foley and the BKFC buying us out right now?The Gordon's i would think

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[Haymaker]

I've heard many times about this worldwide appeal and after 25 years here I just don't see it. The east coast may be different but in all that time I've seen a small number of Celtic shirts and not one single Rangers shirt, not a single one. Wads and wads of the top English and Spanish clubs but Celtic and Rangers? Not what I see....

I've seen two Huns in my time on the East Coast, both lads from Glasgow who live in the US.

Loads more Celtc shirts in NYC in particular, either from the Irish lads or from those Americans who pretend to be Irish. There's even a Hibs bar in NYC!

Celtc have the global brand, the Huns less so.

[hibsforeurope]

Is it the same group that would be owning Leeds and Rangers or is it people within that group who are involved?

The wording of the stories seems to be making out like it’s not the same as the Black knights involvement with us. I’ve never seen mention of Rangers coming part of a multi club structure for example?

It sounded like the group, he was part of, is looking to buy the Huns.
This sounds like the bill foley being part of the BKFC and chairman at Bournemouth being minority investors at Hibs.

Is the issue multi club structures or just someone not being able to have majority ownership in more than 1 club?

[hibsforeurope]

The Gordon's i would think

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Well, true. But assuming the next steps (BKFC full ownership) we’re discussed as part of the initial talks.

[Phil MaGlass]

the huns don't have worldwide appeal, whereas sellik may be better known, I wouldn't call any of them world names.

[LunasBoots]

A load of nonsense dropped by the DR and all the media have fallen for it, without stating that to get it done theyd have to get past rules other clubs have failed to do.

[JohnM1875]

A load of nonsense dropped by the DR and all the media have fallen for it, without stating that to get it done theyd have to get past rules other clubs have failed to do.

Has any other Scottish club attempted to do it?

[BoomtownHibees]

A load of nonsense dropped by the DR and all the media have fallen for it, without stating that to get it done theyd have to get past rules other clubs have failed to do.

DR now reporting that it has all been given the go ahead

[CropleyWasGod]

DR now reporting that it has all been given the go ahead

Yet there is still a bit of disparity between their version and the BBC's.

The Record are still going with "the largest single shareholder" line, which isn't a high bar. The BBC are going with "over 50%".

[Lago]

Yet there is still a bit of disparity between their version and the BBC's.

The Record are still going with "the largest single shareholder" line, which isn't a high bar. The BBC are going with "over 50%".
Which ever one it is, based on what BBC news tonight it seems to be pretty much going to happen.

[JohnM1875]

From The National;

‘ Scottish FA rules on multi-club ownership would be no barrier to a potential takeover of Rangers by 49ers Enterprises, the investment arm of NFL franchise the San Francisco 49ers, or even the potential for their president Paraag Marathe to take a seat on the Ibrox board.

Marathe is also the Leeds United chairman, but Herald Sport understands that the SFA would have no objection to his involvement at Rangers on the grounds of dual ownership as it would 'not impact on the integrity of the competition' in this country.

There are precedents from the governing body in approving such deals, with US billionaire and Bournemouth owner Bill Foley cleared to take ownership of 25 percent of Hibs last year, while analytics firm Park Bench SFC LLC were able to purchase 99.84 percent of Dunfermline's shares in January despite also holding minority stakes in Córdoba CF and PFC Septemvri Sofia.

An SFA source confirmed to The Herald therefore that far from throwing hurdles into the path of investors looking to bring money into the game in this country, particularly those with track records elsewhere, the governing body would look to encourage it wherever possible.

Talks between a consortium headed by Marathe and Rangers' existing shareholders are believed to be in an advanced stage, with another as yet unnamed wealthy US investor believed to be involved.

Marathe's 49ers Enterprises previously bought an initial 15 percent share in Leeds United back in 2018 before slowly increasing their stake and eventually taking full control of the Elland Road club back in 2023.

They are now looking to add Rangers to their stable of interests, exciting Ibrox fans with the potential of investment in players on the field, but also in modernising the structure of the club.’

Interesting that the governing body would now ‘look to encourage it’ eh?

[Lago]

From The National;

‘ Scottish FA rules on multi-club ownership would be no barrier to a potential takeover of Rangers by 49ers Enterprises, the investment arm of NFL franchise the San Francisco 49ers, or even the potential for their president Paraag Marathe to take a seat on the Ibrox board.

Marathe is also the Leeds United chairman, but Herald Sport understands that the SFA would have no objection to his involvement at Rangers on the grounds of dual ownership as it would 'not impact on the integrity of the competition' in this country.

There are precedents from the governing body in approving such deals, with US billionaire and Bournemouth owner Bill Foley cleared to take ownership of 25 percent of Hibs last year, while analytics firm Park Bench SFC LLC were able to purchase 99.84 percent of Dunfermline's shares in January despite also holding minority stakes in Córdoba CF and PFC Septemvri Sofia.

An SFA source confirmed to The Herald therefore that far from throwing hurdles into the path of investors looking to bring money into the game in this country, particularly those with track records elsewhere, the governing body would look to encourage it wherever possible.

Talks between a consortium headed by Marathe and Rangers' existing shareholders are believed to be in an advanced stage, with another as yet unnamed wealthy US investor believed to be involved.

Marathe's 49ers Enterprises previously bought an initial 15 percent share in Leeds United back in 2018 before slowly increasing their stake and eventually taking full control of the Elland Road club back in 2023.

They are now looking to add Rangers to their stable of interests, exciting Ibrox fans with the potential of investment in players on the field, but also in modernising the structure of the club.’

Interesting that the governing body would now ‘look to encourage it’ eh?
Didn't take them long to adapt there outlook

[A Hi-Bee]

From The National;

‘ Scottish FA rules on multi-club ownership would be no barrier to a potential takeover of Rangers by 49ers Enterprises, the investment arm of NFL franchise the San Francisco 49ers, or even the potential for their president Paraag Marathe to take a seat on the Ibrox board.

Marathe is also the Leeds United chairman, but Herald Sport understands that the SFA would have no objection to his involvement at Rangers on the grounds of dual ownership as it would 'not impact on the integrity of the competition' in this country.

There are precedents from the governing body in approving such deals, with US billionaire and Bournemouth owner Bill Foley cleared to take ownership of 25 percent of Hibs last year, while analytics firm Park Bench SFC LLC were able to purchase 99.84 percent of Dunfermline's shares in January despite also holding minority stakes in Córdoba CF and PFC Septemvri Sofia.

An SFA source confirmed to The Herald therefore that far from throwing hurdles into the path of investors looking to bring money into the game in this country, particularly those with track records elsewhere, the governing body would look to encourage it wherever possible.

Talks between a consortium headed by Marathe and Rangers' existing shareholders are believed to be in an advanced stage, with another as yet unnamed wealthy US investor believed to be involved.

Marathe's 49ers Enterprises previously bought an initial 15 percent share in Leeds United back in 2018 before slowly increasing their stake and eventually taking full control of the Elland Road club back in 2023.

They are now looking to add Rangers to their stable of interests, exciting Ibrox fans with the potential of investment in players on the field, but also in modernising the structure of the club.’

Interesting that the governing body would now ‘look to encourage it’ eh?

In bold above :faf:

[greenlex]

I’m in Perth WA at the moment and just saw the goals from the Auckland v wellington on the tellybox. The black knights team Auckland won comfortably 6-1. The thing that struck me is the number of fans celebrating. Seemed a fair number. Is this a completely new team starting from scratch or has the franchise gobbled up an existing one?

[Bridge hibs]

I’m in Perth WA at the moment and just saw the goals from the Auckland v wellington on the tellybox. The black knights team Auckland won comfortably 6-1. The thing that struck me is the number of fans celebrating. Seemed a fair number. Is this a completely new team starting from scratch or has the franchise gobbled up an existing one?

Completely new team

[greenlex]

Completely new team

Fair amount of fans for a new team.

[Bridge hibs]

Fair amount of fans for a new team.

Yeah they seem to be well backed, being top of the league has also helped.

[Carheenlea]

Black knight chief explains Hibs transfer mechanisms.

https://www.hibsobserver.co.uk/interviews/25002070.black-knight-chief-explains-hibs-transfer-mechanisms/

[Lago]

Black knight chief explains Hibs transfer mechanisms.

https://www.hibsobserver.co.uk/interviews/25002070.black-knight-chief-explains-hibs-transfer-mechanisms/
Thanks for that a good read. 👍

[overdrive]

Black knight chief explains Hibs transfer mechanisms.

https://www.hibsobserver.co.uk/interviews/25002070.black-knight-chief-explains-hibs-transfer-mechanisms/

I'm surprised at the Hibs Observer getting basic facts wrong. Tim Bezbatchenko is not a director of the club. Foley and Ryan Caswell are the BKFC representatives on the Board. He wasn't even involved with BKFC in that time period they mention.

[CropleyWasGod]

I'm surprised at the Hibs Observer getting basic facts wrong. Tim Bezbatchenko is not a director of the club. Foley and Ryan Caswell are the BKFC representatives on the Board. He wasn't even involved with BKFC in that time period they mention.

Yeah, I noticed that too.

Now, having re-read the piece, it looks as if it's been corrected.

The power of Hibs.net :flag:

[Lago]

I'm surprised at the Hibs Observer getting basic facts wrong. Tim Bezbatchenko is not a director of the club. Foley and Ryan Caswell are the BKFC representatives on the Board. He wasn't even involved with BKFC in that time period they mention.
Your right, but it doesn't take away anything of the substance of the report which came across in a very positive way.

[Tha Cabbage Kid]

i wonder what bill foley's reaction was to sunshine on leith. if indeed he saw the two newest renditions of it at ER? Wonder what he is making or our undefeated run in the league too.

would he be likely to provide more funds for our player recruitment in the summer if we end up getting 3rd place?

[PHeffernan]

Black knight chief explains Hibs transfer mechanisms.

https://www.hibsobserver.co.uk/interviews/25002070.black-knight-chief-explains-hibs-transfer-mechanisms/

Bezbatchenko doesn't really say very much with all those words.
A very standard multi club business strategy and nothing that we didn't already know.
Seeks to reassure us that they are good guys and blows some warm air up our kilts.

Not incidentally, season tickets are on sale now. Roll on up!

[Gmack7]

i wonder what bill foley's reaction was to sunshine on leith. if indeed he saw the two newest renditions of it at ER? Wonder what he is making or our undefeated run in the league too.

would he be likely to provide more funds for our player recruitment in the summer if we end up getting 3rd place?

As good as Bournemouth are doing, the best chance of watching one of the BK clubs in the champions league is Hibs, make it happen Bill

[Ozyhibby]

Bezbatchenko doesn't really say very much with all those words.
A very standard multi club business strategy and nothing that we didn't already know.
Seeks to reassure us that they are good guys and blows some warm air up our kilts.

Not incidentally, season tickets are for sale now. Roll on up!

That’s the way I read it as well. Nothing earth shattering in it.


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[Ozyhibby]

i wonder what bill foley's reaction was to sunshine on leith. if indeed he saw the two newest renditions of it at ER? Wonder what he is making or our undefeated run in the league too.

would he be likely to provide more funds for our player recruitment in the summer if we end up getting 3rd place?

Euro footy is very important whatever way we look at it.


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[Since90+2]

As good as Bournemouth are doing, the best chance of watching one of the BK clubs in the champions league is Hibs, make it happen Bill

Not sure about that, England could be looking at 6 or 7 clubs in the Champions League soon. If Bournemouth can replicate this season's form into next season they could achieve that.

Even if by some miracle we did finish 2nd we'd have to beat some very good sides to make the CL, never going to happen IMO.

[Hibees1973]

Euro footy is very important whatever way we look at it.


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It is indeed.

Particularly if it is regular and you manage to get to the group stages.

However, I did expect the Yam to be shopping for players in a different market to us by now given they have raked in a good few million in the last 2-3 years.

[alibaba]

It is indeed.

Particularly if it is regular and you manage to get to the group stages.

However, I did expect the Yam to be shopping for players in a different market to us by now given they have raked in a good few million in the last 2-3 years.

Not quite the way I see it yes you can make decent money but unless you qualify every season I think it even itself out you need a bigger squad which means on 2/3 year contract so the year you qualify that’s great but what happens the next season if you don’t


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[JohnM1875]

See Tony Blooms just bought a minority stake (19.1%) in Melbourne Victory. Seems these guys seem to be going for the same leagues.

Just have to hope we have the best investors in the Black Knights.

[Lago]

Bezbatchenko doesn't really say very much with all those words.
A very standard multi club business strategy and nothing that we didn't already know.
Seeks to reassure us that they are good guys and blows some warm air up our kilts.

Not incidentally, season tickets are on sale now. Roll on up!
What exactly would you have expected him to say?

[Hibs4185]

[QUOTE=JohnM1875;7917803]See Tony Blooms just bought a minority stake (19.1%) in Melbourne Victory. Seems these guys seem to be going for the same leagues.

Just have to hope we have the best investors in the Black Knights.[/QUOTE

Made his money from gambling. Of course he’s done well but I feel like the black knights are a safer bet so to speak

[ancient hibee]

It is indeed.

Particularly if it is regular and you manage to get to the group stages.

However, I did expect the Yam to be shopping for players in a different market to us by now given they have raked in a good few million in the last 2-3 years.

Yes but have still needed James Anderson to bail them out with £5M a year.

[cubehindthegoal]

What exactly would you have expected him to say?

Thought it was quite positive to be honest. He’s not going to tell us the minor detail, but what he said illuminated their thinking if you read what he says. They are still building it themselves too, and fairly early days now I understand it. Not a bad place for us to be as a Hibs fan I don’t think.

[Lago]

Thought it was quite positive to be honest. He’s not going to tell us the minor detail, but what he said illuminated their thinking if you read what he says. They are still building it themselves too, and fairly early days now I understand it. Not a bad place for us to be as a Hibs fan I don’t think.
Yep, agree. 👍

[PHeffernan]

What exactly would you have expected him to say?

He said exactly what I expected him to say ...










nothing.

Go get those season tickets.
That's all folks!

[Jock O]

He said exactly what I expected him to say ...


nothing.

Go get those season tickets.
That's all folks!

To be fair like most football execs, except the hilarious Ratcliffe at Man Utd basically blaming everyone but himself!

It was more interesting that he was speaking for the club in general as technically he is not an employee of Hibs is he? I assume from the last couple of communications he is now seen as running the football operations side for us now, which then means Malky either has a direct reporting line to him, or more likely a dotted line to him with a direct line to Ian Gordon? Not a big fan of the much mooted matrix management trend from a few years ago as it sometimes can be difficult to get decisions made or clear accountability in bigger organisations, but with such a small management team as Hibs it should not be a problem if communication is good.

I am not thinking it is a particular problem but its another area where the relationship seems to exist on a consultancy type basis, with I assume IG still having effective overall say on everything, but having effectively devolved the daily operational management and the majority of day to day decisions. If that is the case there is surely a case, and I know this is not going to be popular, for not going for a top level CEO, in effect Ian is controlling the purse strings and the board are there for corporate governance, so could we not exist with an Operating Manager, probably a title of COO for their ego boost, but at a much lesser salary than a CEO and is ultimately responsible for all the non footballing depts, but significant decisions made by the Exec and or the board? The outlier on that would be the need to drive bigger revenue streams, but in all honesty never thought that should be a CEO's responsibility but someone dedicated to this reporting into CEO.

[ancient hibee]

Technically? He has no standing at Hibs and will certainly not be running the football operations.

[Lago]

He said exactly what I expected him to say ...










nothing.

Go get those season tickets.
That's all folks!
You'll not be disappointed then.

[BoomtownHibees]

Black Knight Football Club has entered into a new strategic affiliation agreement with MLS side, Orlando City SC

[Bridge hibs]

Black Knight Football Club has entered into a new strategic affiliation agreement with MLS side, Orlando City SC

Yes, more Chris Muellers 🫣

[Billy Whizz]

Black Knight Football Club has entered into a new strategic affiliation agreement with MLS side, Orlando City SC

An away pre season friendly would be nice

[04Sauzee]

Black Knight Football Club has entered into a new strategic affiliation agreement with MLS side, Orlando City SC

Are they shareholders or just sharing best practices?

Edit...
More on the affiliation here

https://www.orlandocitysc.com/news/orlando-city-sc-announces-affiliation-agreement-with-black-knight-football-club

[007]

Black Knight Football Club has entered into a new strategic affiliation agreement with MLS side, Orlando City SC

It Disney bear thinking about how many Mickey Mouse players we've had in the past. Hopefully we don't get any on loan or we'll be Donald Ducked.

[bingo70]

An away pre season friendly would be nice

With the club putting on free busses for supporters 😃

[Billy Whizz]

With the club putting on free busses for supporters 😃

Don’t fancy being on your bus…..

[bingo70]

Don’t fancy being on your bus…..

As long as I got my own toilet I’d be fine 😜

Joking apart, what’s the MLS like these days? Is it still either superstars way out of our league or utter dross at the other end of the spectrum?

Is it likely someone not getting their game for an MLS could be useful for us?

[Dmas]

Find it quite strange Orlando have mentioned us as being part of the group they will work with but the Japanese team Kyogo sanga was only really announced as a partner of Bournemouth wonder what the difference is

[Bad Habits]

Black Knight Football Club has entered into a new strategic affiliation agreement with MLS side, Orlando City SC

Bring back the Mueller!

[Billy Whizz]

As long as I got my own toilet I’d be fine 😜

Joking apart, what’s the MLS like these days? Is it still either superstars way out of our league or utter dross at the other end of the spectrum?

Is it likely someone not getting their game for an MLS could be useful for us?
To be honest no idea
Would be too warm in July anyway, would be better in the winter

[Wilson]

Find it quite strange Orlando have mentioned us as being part of the group they will work with but the Japanese team Kyogo sanga was only really announced as a partner of Bournemouth wonder what the difference is

We're somebody to an mls team and nobody to the j leagues. Simple.

[HoboHarry]

To be honest no idea
Would be too warm in July anyway, would be better in the winter
I could be wrong Billy but I think their stadium is air conditioned. I don't follow MLS but climate controlled stadiums are around, in baseball the Houston Astros are and I've been there a few times. Clearly when you leave its still warm outside, I just wasn't sure if you were talking about the heat in general terms or for watching a game.

[HoboHarry]

I was there a while back when Kaka played for them and there wasn’t any air con.
Open to the elements mostly which seemed daft as it was too hot to face the sun for a couple of hours.
First time I saw water breaks and no wonder.
They had song sheets between every seat.
The ultras were a flipping mass band, brilliant atmosphere and probably better than the game deserved.

The houses around the stadium advertise their driveways to park in for a fee.
Was it the old stadium you visited? Kaka left them I think in 2017 which was the same year the Inter&Co stadium opened?

[bingo70]

Not Orlando related however I see L’orient have been promoted back to Ligue 1 for next season.

I wonder if there fans are warming to the BK’s at all and if their promotion could have a knock on effect for any players coming our way?

[Billy Whizz]

I could be wrong Billy but I think their stadium is air conditioned. I don't follow MLS but climate controlled stadiums are around, in baseball the Houston Astros are and I've been there a few times. Clearly when you leave its still warm outside, I just wasn't sure if you were talking about the heat in general terms or for watching a game.

I meant too hot for the fans😀

[flash]

I am off to Orlando in a couple of weeks so will find out what the script is from the locals.

[matty_f]

Not Orlando related however I see L’orient have been promoted back to Ligue 1 for next season.

I wonder if there fans are warming to the BK’s at all and if their promotion could have a knock on effect for any players coming our way?

They certainly seem to have a bit of a Midas touch - Bournemouth in the running for Europe, just beat their record points total (after setting the record last season), opened a world class training facility and just announced a stadium upgrade; Lorient promoted back to the top flight; Auckland champions in their first season; and the best of the bunch - Hibernian sitting in third going into the final four games of the season in the Scottish top flight.

Pretty decent season for them.

[bingo70]

They certainly seem to have a bit of a Midas touch - Bournemouth in the running for Europe, just beat their record points total (after setting the record last season), opened a world class training facility and just announced a stadium upgrade; Lorient promoted back to the top flight; Auckland champions in their first season; and the best of the bunch - Hibernian sitting in third going into the final four games of the season in the Scottish top flight.

Pretty decent season for them.

When it’s spread over 4 teams, that can’t just be down to luck.

[Hibernian Verse]

When it’s spread over 4 teams, that can’t just be down to luck.

You're right. It's good to see Rocky's influence spreading amongst the group.

[Centre Hawf]

Find it quite strange Orlando have mentioned us as being part of the group they will work with but the Japanese team Kyogo sanga was only really announced as a partner of Bournemouth wonder what the difference is

Kyoto Sanga and Orlando City's relationship to BKFC appear to be the same. Kyoto are not part of the group but are a partnership that must share scouting/data etc for players in that region amongst all the other things that get listed off in these partnerships.

[Onceinawhile]

They certainly seem to have a bit of a Midas touch - Bournemouth in the running for Europe, just beat their record points total (after setting the record last season), opened a world class training facility and just announced a stadium upgrade; Lorient promoted back to the top flight; Auckland champions in their first season; and the best of the bunch - Hibernian sitting in third going into the final four games of the season in the Scottish top flight.

Pretty decent season for them.

VGK in the play offs too.

[bingo70]

VGK in the play offs too.

Who are they?

[Onceinawhile]

Who are they?

Las Vegas Golden Knights (NHL)

[04Sauzee]

Bournemouth's new performance centre

https://x.com/afcbournemouth/status/1917640093772439654?t=5ekdW50A59fdomo6SDF23g&s=19

[MacGruber]

Bournemouth's new performance centre

https://x.com/afcbournemouth/status/1917640093772439654?t=5ekdW50A59fdomo6SDF23g&s=19

That's absolutely superb

[Lago]

Bournemouth's new performance centre

https://x.com/afcbournemouth/status/1917640093772439654?t=5ekdW50A59fdomo6SDF23g&s=19
Now that really is impressive,
Thanks for posting

[CropleyWasGod]

Just had a wee keek at Bournemouth's latest accounts.

They owe BKFC £140m.

[bingo70]

Just had a wee keek at Bournemouth's latest accounts.

They owe BKFC £140m.

Is that likely to be paid back when the club is eventually sold, whenever that may be?

Presumably that won’t be something they would be expected to pay back any time soon?

[CropleyWasGod]

Is that likely to be paid back when the club is eventually sold, whenever that may be?

Presumably that won’t be something they would be expected to pay back any time soon?

"These are interest free loans, unsecured and repayable on demand with a final repayment date of 12 December 2032."

If the club is sold, BKFC would be paid that loan plus whatever the value of their shares is. In other words, the new owner would have to stump it up.

[CentreLine]

"These are interest free loans, unsecured and repayable on demand with a final repayment date of 12 December 2032."

If the club is sold, BKFC would be paid that loan plus whatever the value of their shares is. In other words, the new owner would have to stump it up.

Should we be comfortable with that model? Not that it’s necessarily the way our company would go.
Could it be that a comparative amount would simply equate to ownership changing to BKFC?

[CapitalGreen]

Should we be comfortable with that model? Not that it’s necessarily the way our company would go.
Could it be that a comparative amount would simply equate to ownership changing to BKFC?

Bournemouth were due their previous owner ~£160m at the time of the takeover.

[Kato]

Just had a wee keek at Bournemouth's latest accounts.

They owe BKFC £140m.Probably the equivalent of our £7M loss.

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[Jock O]

"These are interest free loans, unsecured and repayable on demand with a final repayment date of 12 December 2032."

If the club is sold, BKFC would be paid that loan plus whatever the value of their shares is. In other words, the new owner would have to stump it up.

I think they made a significant cash injection in their accounts in order to turn pretty big losses around, but were they not also raising money from their outside investors, which I seem to remember include the much maligned Blackrock, for a further cash injection this year?

Given Bournemouth's tiny capacity it means they really need to top up the TV revenues to compete I assume. Sure I read there was little scope for bigger ground, but assume that would only be relevant to existing ground?

[JohnM1875]

Should we be comfortable with that model? Not that it’s necessarily the way our company would go.
Could it be that a comparative amount would simply equate to ownership changing to BKFC?

Gordons just wrote off* £7mil after poor ownership.

Its just modern football, as ****ed up as it is.

*maybe didn't write it off.

[chippy]

Gordons just wrote off* £7mil after poor ownership.

Its just modern football, as ****ed up as it is.

*maybe didn't write it off.

Im grateful the Gordon’s paid off the debt- it was their fault- but £7m to them is probably covered by interest on their multi millions in investments.

[JohnM1875]

Bournemouth's new performance centre

https://x.com/afcbournemouth/status/1917640093772439654?t=5ekdW50A59fdomo6SDF23g&s=19

Seriously impressive eh?

[Dmas]

"These are interest free loans, unsecured and repayable on demand with a final repayment date of 12 December 2032."

If the club is sold, BKFC would be paid that loan plus whatever the value of their shares is. In other words, the new owner would have to stump it up.

There is also a new company called Black Knight Stadium Limited as of 9/4/24 only shareholder being BKFC so looks like Bournemouth may also be renting a new stadium, unless its rent free to the point of a sale by BKFC and a way to avoid FFP rules, Everton really suffered with cost of the new stadium when they where deducted points

[hibsforeurope]

Bournemouth's new performance centre

https://x.com/afcbournemouth/status/1917640093772439654?t=5ekdW50A59fdomo6SDF23g&s=19

The drone flying skills are almost as impressive as the facility it's self.

i wonder what our new training base will be like after the new build is complete.

[hibsforeurope]

I think they made a significant cash injection in their accounts in order to turn pretty big losses around, but were they not also raising money from their outside investors, which I seem to remember include the much maligned Blackrock, for a further cash injection this year?

Given Bournemouth's tiny capacity it means they really need to top up the TV revenues to compete I assume. Sure I read there was little scope for bigger ground, but assume that would only be relevant to existing ground?

would some of this capital raised be for the recent purchase of Dean Court? or would that show under the Black Knights Stadium LTD?

[04Sauzee]

There is also a new company called Black Knight Stadium Limited as of 9/4/24 only shareholder being BKFC so looks like Bournemouth may also be renting a new stadium, unless its rent free to the point of a sale by BKFC and a way to avoid FFP rules, Everton really suffered with cost of the new stadium when they where deducted points

Did I not see Bill Foley saying they were now staying out and expanding the current stadium after talks about moving. Think he said a new build could take years, staying where they were he said nobody would have to move seat and it would be quicker and cheaper and get the same result ultimately.

[hibsforeurope]

Did I not see Bill Foley saying they were now staying out and expanding the current stadium after talks about moving. Think he said a new build could take years, staying where they were he said nobody would have to move seat and it would be quicker and cheaper and get the same result ultimately.

He said, at the opening of the training base (i think), that they are expanding the current ground up to 20-23,000 with it expected to be ready in 2.5-3 years.

[offshorehibby]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6eS8diV4rg

I watched this the other day regarding the Bournmouth stadium.

[ruthven_raiders]

The drone flying skills are almost as impressive as the facility it's self.

i wonder what our new training base will be like after the new build is complete.

Impressive set up and drone skills were amazing! 🤣🤣

[Pete70]

Good to see they were thinking of Hibs when deciding the colour scheme of their canteen area.

[04Sauzee]

Bill Foley
Hibs minority shareholder, Black Knight Football Club, have struck an investment deal with Portuguese top flight side Moreirense.

It sees US billionaire and Bournemouth supremo Bill Foley expand his Black Knights stable.

They recently agreed a strategic partnership with MLS side Orlando City, similar to an existing arrangement with Japanese side Kyoto Sanga, French side Lorient, and A-League expansion side Auckland FC.

[bingo70]

Bill Foley
Hibs minority shareholder, Black Knight Football Club, have struck an investment deal with Portuguese top flight side Moreirense.

It sees US billionaire and Bournemouth supremo Bill Foley expand his Black Knights stable.

They recently agreed a strategic partnership with MLS side Orlando City, similar to an existing arrangement with Japanese side Kyoto Sanga, French side Lorient, and A-League expansion side Auckland FC.

I saw something online that said Foley had stood down as chairman of Cannae Holdings last week. It all went over my head but guessing it’s not anything that affects us?

[we are hibs]

I saw something online that said Foley had stood down as chairman of Cannae Holdings last week. It all went over my head but guessing it’s not anything that affects us?https://x.com/afcb_r0b/status/1922032590187356550?t=XdoPFKCbJCupWpm-_1j9vg&s=19


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There was also this under that twitter post. No idea what this is about:


https://x.com/afcb_r0b/status/1922410008634933369?t=6rC3zMyBlPk0zDbJGsAddA&s=19


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[Eyrie]

Caswell, who replaced Foley as CEO, is the other Black Knight appointee on our Board.

[greenlex]

I know it’s daft but every time I see The Black Knights written down I start singing Agadoo in my head.

[Jock O]

https://x.com/afcb_r0b/status/1922032590187356550?t=XdoPFKCbJCupWpm-_1j9vg&s=19


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There was also this under that twitter post. No idea what this is about:


https://x.com/afcb_r0b/status/1922410008634933369?t=6rC3zMyBlPk0zDbJGsAddA&s=19


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Does Cannae Holdings have interests other than the BK football group? Went looking for that org chart but my filing system leaves a lot to be desired.

The second one is more interesting, it seems like a Shareholder group has raised some sort of action against Foley's remuneration? It also looks now like Foley is moving to non exec position in Cannae. Off to see if I can dig out some stuff, its got to be better than pressing refresh on the matchday report every second.

[gbhibby]

Real Madrid to Pay Bournemouth £50m for Huijsen.

[Lago]

Real Madrid to Pay Bournemouth £50m for Huijsen.
Really good player.

[Not In The Know]

Ffs so they have some lizard computer or summin? 😂😂

[Callum_62]

Ffs so they have some lizard computer or summin? [emoji23][emoji23]Don't tell the scottish media but they use analytics too!

[emoji23]

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[Hibs4185]

Real Madrid to Pay Bournemouth £50m for Huijsen.

They’d be better giving us £50 million for SDG

[neil7908]

They’d be better giving us £50 million for SDG

Make it £100m, throw in Mbappe and Vinicius and we might be close to a fair value.

[Unseen work]

Are we listening to them yet?🤣

[matty_f]

Are we listening to them yet?🤣

There’s an interview with Malky Mackay on YouTube - we’ve been listening to them a lot this season, they’ve been heavily involved with us.

[Not In The Know]

There’s an interview with Malky Mackay on YouTube - we’ve been listening to them a lot this season, they’ve been heavily involved with us.


gotta link please?

[Hibbyradge]

gotta link please?

https://youtu.be/zUFP31bPI2E?si=g7nyxO92i1EK--w1


Just listen to the first half. The rest of it turns all Celticy.

[Ozyhibby]

Foley didn’t look best pleased last night watching Vegas go out of the NHL playoffs to the Oilers.[emoji106]


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[Hibs4185]

Foley didn’t look best pleased last night watching Vegas go out of the NHL playoffs to the Oilers.[emoji106]


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Lucky he’s got us hibees to cheer him up!

[cabbageandribs1875]

pity it's closed-doors

https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/496792978_679654088252028_1048500934816815386_n.jp g?_nc_cat=103&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=127cfc&_nc_ohc=kTC9GoOQO-QQ7kNvwGyb4ZZ&_nc_oc=AdmRe9KYjZSRWu6vIGjfiJo9w_6WNqU5gcYO9baj3Aa i4GD8AdWTzDN7rG56BezAf84&_nc_zt=23&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-1.fna&_nc_gid=B2D-HtmnDemy3FFIYBCAjg&oh=00_AfKIeykCjAmHLBoHvPynDivK5u4XUSAjXsWWc1GFmERf UA&oe=682BD6BA

[Thatdayinmay16]

Real Madrid to Pay Bournemouth £50m for Huijsen.

You've got to wonder how much Nicky Cadden is worth then, 100m?

[EGL2000]

pity it's closed-doors

https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/496792978_679654088252028_1048500934816815386_n.jp g?_nc_cat=103&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=127cfc&_nc_ohc=kTC9GoOQO-QQ7kNvwGyb4ZZ&_nc_oc=AdmRe9KYjZSRWu6vIGjfiJo9w_6WNqU5gcYO9baj3Aa i4GD8AdWTzDN7rG56BezAf84&_nc_zt=23&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-1.fna&_nc_gid=B2D-HtmnDemy3FFIYBCAjg&oh=00_AfKIeykCjAmHLBoHvPynDivK5u4XUSAjXsWWc1GFmERf UA&oe=682BD6BA

Yeah think an away trip down there would of been great for the fans.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Yeah think an away trip down there would of been great for the fans.

:agree:

[Alex Trager]

Yeah think an away trip down there would of been great for the fans.

We’ve got far better trips ahead of us my man 😎

[hibby rae]

There’s an interview with Malky Mackay on YouTube - we’ve been listening to them a lot this season, they’ve been heavily involved with us.

Hopefully they suggest we give Mackay his jotters and we listen to them there as well then. He's clearly surplus to requirements anyway

[Hibbyradge]

Yeah think an away trip down there would of been great for the fans.

It would have

[andrew70]

Hopefully they suggest we give Mackay his jotters and we listen to them there as well then. He's clearly surplus to requirements anyway

Aye let’s take away a guy doing a great job.

Wonderful idea.

[Allant1981]

Hopefully they suggest we give Mackay his jotters and we listen to them there as well then. He's clearly surplus to requirements anyway

In what way is he clearly surplus to requirements

[Hibbyradge]

Hopefully they suggest we give Mackay his jotters and we listen to them there as well then. He's clearly surplus to requirements anyway

:faf: :faf: :faf:

Brilliant.

[Onion]

After his comments in the summer, hope Foley's been on the phone to Sir David with sincere words of congratulations for the job he's done at Hibs.

[CapitalGreen]

pity it's closed-doors

https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/496792978_679654088252028_1048500934816815386_n.jp g?_nc_cat=103&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=127cfc&_nc_ohc=kTC9GoOQO-QQ7kNvwGyb4ZZ&_nc_oc=AdmRe9KYjZSRWu6vIGjfiJo9w_6WNqU5gcYO9baj3Aa i4GD8AdWTzDN7rG56BezAf84&_nc_zt=23&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-1.fna&_nc_gid=B2D-HtmnDemy3FFIYBCAjg&oh=00_AfKIeykCjAmHLBoHvPynDivK5u4XUSAjXsWWc1GFmERf UA&oe=682BD6BA

Think it might be used as an opportunity for us to have a look at their reserve & academy players to see which are up to the standard of our team.

[Kato]

Think it might be used as an opportunity for us to have a look at their reserve & academy players to see which are up to the standard of our team.While squad will be training there for three days. A bit pick-and-mix no doubt.

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[matty_f]

Hopefully they suggest we give Mackay his jotters and we listen to them there as well then. He's clearly surplus to requirements anyway

We’ve got the women’s team a game away from the title, the under 18s as champions, and the men’s team finishing third.

Considering they all fall under his remit, it seems to me that sacking him is the last thing we should be considering.

[J-C]

Hopefully they suggest we give Mackay his jotters and we listen to them there as well then. He's clearly surplus to requirements anyway

Drunk a tad early no?

[HoboHarry]

Hopefully they suggest we give Mackay his jotters and we listen to them there as well then. He's clearly surplus to requirements anyway

I honestly can't tell if you're serious or attempting a joke.

[Wilson]

I honestly can't tell if you're serious or attempting a joke.

If attempting a joke then he's not funny. If he's serious then he is hilarious.

[Golden Bear]

Hopefully they suggest we give Mackay his jotters and we listen to them there as well then. He's clearly surplus to requirements anyway

There's always one.

🙄

[DaveF]

Hopefully they suggest we give Mackay his jotters and we listen to them there as well then. He's clearly surplus to requirements anyway

At least we know who owns the 'mackay out' banner 😂

[hibeerealist]

If attempting a joke then he's not funny. If he's serious then he is hilarious.


I think he may be a she!!!:greengrin

[He's here!]

Hopefully they suggest we give Mackay his jotters and we listen to them there as well then. He's clearly surplus to requirements anyway

I understood the reaction to his appointment by a number of fans but isn't it possible that people can learn from mistakes and in doing so become a better person? I've no idea if Mackay has done so but it's feasible.

It's clear he's doing a good job at Hibs which buys him a lot of goodwill from fans for whom their club doing well is all that really matters (ie most fans).

[jakeshibs]

Hopefully they suggest we give Mackay his jotters and we listen to them there as well then. He's clearly surplus to requirements anyway

What a terrible comment, after we have just secured 3rd in the league.

[Kato]

I understood the reaction to his appointment by a number of fans but isn't it possible that people can learn from mistakes and in doing so become a better person? I've no idea if Mackay has done so but it's feasible.

It's clear he's doing a good job at Hibs which buys him a lot of goodwill from fans for whom their club doing well is all that really matters (ie most fans).It's a matter of fact that the best tool against racism, casual or abject, is education. By all accounts MM has worked at making himself a better person.

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[hibby rae]

I understood the reaction to his appointment by a number of fans but isn't it possible that people can learn from mistakes and in doing so become a better person? I've no idea if Mackay has done so but it's feasible.

It's clear he's doing a good job at Hibs which buys him a lot of goodwill from fans for whom their club doing well is all that really matters (ie most fans).


I'm reliably informed he's briefing pals in the media he got the board to stall sacking Gray in November, whilst conversely in November was putting it about he had nothing to do with the appointment. Man's an untrustworthy charlatan who got the job through cronyism.

People say 'but we got 3rd', correlation doesn't equal causation and I would argue the success in every dept. is down to others. He's not needed at the club.

[SaulGoodman]

I'm reliably informed he's briefing pals in the media he got the board to stall sacking Gray in November, whilst conversely in November was putting it about he had nothing to do with the appointment. Man's an untrustworthy charlatan who got the job through cronyism.

People say 'but we got 3rd', correlation doesn't equal causation and I would argue the success in every dept. is down to others. He's not needed at the club.

So the success was due to others but the failures at the start of the season are down to him?

Some baws to double down on an already bad take.

[7Hero]

The Black Knight Group....

[B.H.F.C]

I'm reliably informed he's briefing pals in the media he got the board to stall sacking Gray in November, whilst conversely in November was putting it about he had nothing to do with the appointment. Man's an untrustworthy charlatan who got the job through cronyism.

People say 'but we got 3rd', correlation doesn't equal causation and I would argue the success in every dept. is down to others. He's not needed at the club.

Surely if the first team, under 18s and women’s teams are all doing well, the Sporting Director must have had some kind of impact on it all no?

[jacomo]

It's a matter of fact that the best tool against racism, casual or abject, is eduction. By all accounts MM has worked at making himself a better person.

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[ancient hibee]

I'm reliably informed he's briefing pals in the media he got the board to stall sacking Gray in November, whilst conversely in November was putting it about he had nothing to do with the appointment. Man's an untrustworthy charlatan who got the job through cronyism.

People say 'but we got 3rd', correlation doesn't equal causation and I would argue the success in every dept. is down to others. He's not needed at the club.
“I’m reliably informed”. classic.

[marinello59]

Surely if the first team, under 18s and women’s teams are all doing well, the Sporting Director must have had some kind of impact on it all no?

He’s had a massive impact. Every squad is working to the same principles he has put in place.

[04Sauzee]

I'm reliably informed he's briefing pals in the media he got the board to stall sacking Gray in November, whilst conversely in November was putting it about he had nothing to do with the appointment. Man's an untrustworthy charlatan who got the job through cronyism.

People say 'but we got 3rd', correlation doesn't equal causation and I would argue the success in every dept. is down to others. He's not needed at the club.

Has he really ever said he nothing to do with the appointment? Genuinely can't recall that but fair enough.

[Donegal Hibby]

I don’t actually believe Mackay got the job just because of cronyism . When you look the career he’s had as a player , manager , working with Scotland , he’s undoubtedly got a good knowledge of the game ..

There’s a lot of good things happening now at the club from the ladies team , under 18’s , finishing 3rd , think the guy deserves a wee bit of credit for his part in it all .

[marinello59]

I don’t actually believe Mackay got the job just because of cronyism . When you look the career he’s had as a player , manager , working with Scotland , he’s undoubtedly got a good knowledge of the game ..

There’s a lot of good things happening now at the club from the ladies team , under 18’s , finishing 3rd , think the guy deserves a wee bit of credit for his part in it all .

:agree:

[Wilson]

I think he may be a she!!!:greengrin

Well, that's a bit too modern for me.

[Kato]

:aok:...and I go and spell education wrong.[emoji16].(was sans specs)

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[JimBHibees]

I'm reliably informed he's briefing pals in the media he got the board to stall sacking Gray in November, whilst conversely in November was putting it about he had nothing to do with the appointment. Man's an untrustworthy charlatan who got the job through cronyism.

People say 'but we got 3rd', correlation doesn't equal causation and I would argue the success in every dept. is down to others. He's not needed at the club.

Bit of a stretch to be saying he has nothing to do with it. The football department are working outstandingly and he heads that up so should get the credit for that. Absolutely outstanding appointment

[JimBHibees]

I don’t actually believe Mackay got the job just because of cronyism . When you look the career he’s had as a player , manager , working with Scotland , he’s undoubtedly got a good knowledge of the game ..

There’s a lot of good things happening now at the club from the ladies team , under 18’s , finishing 3rd , think the guy deserves a wee bit of credit for his part in it all .

Absolutely

[B.H.F.C]

He’s had a massive impact. Every squad is working to the same principles he has put in place.

Of course he has. There are folk out there that’ll never accept that because of who he is though. If that’s how folk feel then that’s fine, they’re perfectly entitled to. But trying to pretend that none of the good on field stuff is anything to do with him is just daft.

[Forza Fred]

He’s head of the football department.

Look at the league tables.

He deserves a degree of credit for the way his department has performed……if we were at the bottom of the leagues he would wear the responsibility for that too.

As the saying goes…..look at the scoreboard.

[Jack]

I'm reliably informed he's briefing pals in the media he got the board to stall sacking Gray in November, whilst conversely in November was putting it about he had nothing to do with the appointment. Man's an untrustworthy charlatan who got the job through cronyism.

People say 'but we got 3rd', correlation doesn't equal causation and I would argue the success in every dept. is down to others. He's not needed at the club.

No reason both statements he made can't be correct.

[Jones28]

I'm reliably informed he's briefing pals in the media he got the board to stall sacking Gray in November, whilst conversely in November was putting it about he had nothing to do with the appointment. Man's an untrustworthy charlatan who got the job through cronyism.

People say 'but we got 3rd', correlation doesn't equal causation and I would argue the success in every dept. is down to others. He's not needed at the club.

And did we only sign Nicky Cadden because his brother is here?

[Ship of Hope]

I'm reliably informed he's briefing pals in the media he got the board to stall sacking Gray in November, whilst conversely in November was putting it about he had nothing to do with the appointment. Man's an untrustworthy charlatan who got the job through cronyism.

People say 'but we got 3rd', correlation doesn't equal causation and I would argue the success in every dept. is down to others. He's not needed at the club.

Not been nearly enough opportunity to boo this season so just for you here goes… Boooooooooo!

[Dmas]

Of course he has. There are folk out there that’ll never accept that because of who he is though. If that’s how folk feel then that’s fine, they’re perfectly entitled to. But trying to pretend that none of the good on field stuff is anything to do with him is just daft.

Well said, everyone at the club deserves huge credit for this year from Ian Gordon down….even the kit man that shorts change decision as important as changing the goalie

[andrew70]

I'm reliably informed he's briefing pals in the media he got the board to stall sacking Gray in November, whilst conversely in November was putting it about he had nothing to do with the appointment. Man's an untrustworthy charlatan who got the job through cronyism.

People say 'but we got 3rd', correlation doesn't equal causation and I would argue the success in every dept. is down to others. He's not needed at the club.

The two statements don’t even marry up.

He could have easily said both and still be correctly vindicated.

Theres zero evidence of the first part. He along with others are doing a great job.

He’s the head of a department that is performing successfully since his appointment and being able to properly get his feet under the table.

[WhileTheChief..]

And did we only sign Nicky Cadden because his brother is here?

Wasn’t that the case though?

There was plenty of chat about it at the time. It worked out well for us but do you think k we’d have been after him if it wasn’t for his brother?

I don’t know, but think it’s unlikely.

Similarly, when MM got the job, nobody saw it coming and we all wondered Kensall chose him.

[Unseen work]

Wasn’t that the case though?

There was plenty of chat about it at the time. It worked out well for us but do you think k we’d have been after him if it wasn’t for his brother?

I don’t know, but think it’s unlikely.

Similarly, when MM got the job, nobody saw it coming and we all wondered Kensall chose him.

Come on, there’s absolutely no chance we only signed him because his brother is Chris

[Hibbyradge]

Wasn’t that the case though?

There was plenty of chat about it at the time. It worked out well for us but do you think k we’d have been after him if it wasn’t for his brother?

I don’t know, but think it’s unlikely.

Similarly, when MM got the job, nobody saw it coming and we all wondered Kensall chose him.

Chris Cadden may have had a word in Nicky's ear to help persuade him to come to Hibs, but other than that, the fact that they were related would had nothing to do with it. We signed him because SDG liked what he had to offer and because he was available.

When he signed Gray said, "Nicky is a player I have always admired, he brings great quality, consistency and is a top professional, so I am delighted to bring him in.

“He knows the Scottish game, he has a great delivery into the box, and has contributed goals and assists everywhere he has been. I am confident he will slot nicely into the dressing room straight away.”

He was 100% correct.

[hibsforeurope]

I was against Malky's appointment initially, but having been in a room listening to him talking about Hibs and seeing him as a person we have got someone who really cares about the club and it's people (staff/Fans). Everyone makes mistakes and i bet you would struggle to find anyone who's not made an off the cuff comments to mates at some point in their lives, it's not about the comments is about the reaction, remorse and actions going forward.

I think we would struggle to get someone as good as Malky McKay as sporting director.

[NAE NOOKIE]

After his comments in the summer, hope Foley's been on the phone to Sir David with sincere words of congratulations for the job he's done at Hibs.

Don't know about that. But I hope by now he has had his view of the potential of this club ramped up a bit, to the extent where he can see the real possibility of an increasing return on his investment, if not financially, then at least in terms of on field success.

If he has spoken to SDG I hope our managers first words to him were 'gimmie mair money for players and an indoor training pitch' :greengrin

[Jones28]

Wasn’t that the case though?

There was plenty of chat about it at the time. It worked out well for us but do you think k we’d have been after him if it wasn’t for his brother?

I don’t know, but think it’s unlikely.

Similarly, when MM got the job, nobody saw it coming and we all wondered Kensall chose him.

Why would it be unlikely?

He was a free agent at the time, Chris might have persuaded him to come and have a conversation but the club weren't handing out contracts for charitable reasons.

[Phil MaGlass]

"These are interest free loans, unsecured and repayable on demand with a final repayment date of 12 December 2032."

If the club is sold, BKFC would be paid that loan plus whatever the value of their shares is. In other words, the new owner would have to stump it up.

Highly unlikely but what part of BKFC own Hibs, is it not split into little companies within, no idea likes, but couldnt they just as easy claim bankruptcy if they dont want to have that debt anymore? As I say, no idea how it works. Oh and how much debt are they carrying from their other clubs and should we be worried if the markets go t,s up?

[CropleyWasGod]

Highly unlikely but what part of BKFC own Hibs, is it not split into little companies within, no idea likes, but couldnt they just as easy claim bankruptcy if they dont want to have that debt anymore? As I say, no idea how it works. Oh and how much debt are they carrying from their other clubs and should we be worried if the markets go t,s up?

It's the same company (Black Knight Football Club UK Limited) that owns their share in us, in Bournemouth and L'orient. Not sure about the other clubs that have been mentioned on this thread. BKFC UK is, in turn, owned by Black Knight Football Club US LP.

If Bournemouth decide they don't want the debt anymore, it's not as simple as just "claiming bankruptcy". If they default on the loan, BKFC would take up their security, and take over all of Bournemouth's assets.... and do what they want with them.

From a quick look at the BKFC accounts, there is no debt due to them by L'Orient. They have 40% ownership, with options to buy the remaining 60%.

I can't see any financial issues for us if BKFC have financial problems. We don't have any debt due to them. It would, however, cut off our source of their expertise, possible players and (perhaps ) some money in the future.

[matty_f]

Wasn’t that the case though?

There was plenty of chat about it at the time. It worked out well for us but do you think k we’d have been after him if it wasn’t for his brother?

I don’t know, but think it’s unlikely.

Similarly, when MM got the job, nobody saw it coming and we all wondered Kensall chose him.

I don’t think we signed him because of that, though it might have made the case to sign more compelling for Nicky given his brother was here already.

The questions at the time of the summer signings were around the whole recruitment process - and not just the player recruitment.

We signed Hoilett (who had just worked with Samson at Aberdeen), Triantis and Myko (both at the club previously), Nadden (twin brother already on the books), Gray as manager (already at the club), Malky as Sporting Director (pals with the chairman), plus Gray’s coaching team consisting of Eddie May (at the club), Liam Craig (former captain) and Craig Samson (previously at the club).

The questions weren’t that they were bad signings, but more the quality of the recruitment process and how thorough it had been.

I tink they were fair questions, and Malky himself said that the recruitment process was nowhere near where he wanted it to be but they had to play with the hand they were dealt so made the most of what they had.

[The Modfather]

Be interesting to see if Bournemouth can maintain their impressive upward trajectory next season with all the big clubs sniffing round a few of their players. Huljsen the first and signing for Real Madrid.

[CapitalGreen]

Be interesting to see if Bournemouth can maintain there impressive upward trajectory next season with all the big clubs sniffing round a few of their players. Huljsen the first and signing for Real Madrid.

Incredibly, Huijsen wasn’t even a regular starter for them during the first half of the season. It wasn’t until December he started back to back league games after their first choice centre back Senesi got a bad injury. With Senesi back and if they can hold onto Zabarnyi they shouldn’t be impacted too much with Huijsen leaving.

[overdrive]

It's the same company (Black Knight Football Club UK Limited) that owns their share in us, in Bournemouth and L'orient. Not sure about the other clubs that have been mentioned on this thread. BKFC UK is, in turn, owned by Black Knight Football Club US LP.

If Bournemouth decide they don't want the debt anymore, it's not as simple as just "claiming bankruptcy". If they default on the loan, BKFC would take up their security, and take over all of Bournemouth's assets.... and do what they want with them.

From a quick look at the BKFC accounts, there is no debt due to them by L'Orient. They have 40% ownership, with options to buy the remaining 60%.

I can't see any financial issues for us if BKFC have financial problems. We don't have any debt due to them. It would, however, cut off our source of their expertise, possible players and (perhaps ) some money in the future.

IIRC although Auckland are described as being part of the Black Knight group they aren’t actually owned by any company within the BKFC group. That might have changed but there was a graphic doing the rounds a few months showing how all the clubs fit together. Think Auckland were owned by a separate company owned by Foley.

[007]

I'm reliably informed he's briefing pals in the media he got the board to stall sacking Gray in November, whilst conversely in November was putting it about he had nothing to do with the appointment. Man's an untrustworthy charlatan who got the job through cronyism.

People say 'but we got 3rd', correlation doesn't equal causation and I would argue the success in every dept. is down to others. He's not needed at the club.

If you are not talking sh¡te then you'll be able to post a link or two to something from November where he was putting it about that he had nothing to do with SDG's appointment.

[Hibbyradge]

If you are not talking sh¡te then you'll be able to post a link or two to something from November where he was putting it about that he had nothing to do with SDG's appointment.

He's said on more than one occasion that he was very impressed with SDG at his interview. He talks about it again in the Coffee Club FC video.

[007]

He's said on more than one occasion that he was very impressed with SDG at his interview.

Exactly. Which I why I doubt he said anything about him having nothing to do with SDG's appointment. But of course if he did, then the poster will be able to easily provide links to back up the claim.

[bingo70]

https://x.com/cabinesport/status/1928863127971705254?s=46&t=VghJuoU_bl8ISs-zf5CmHg

That’s the Portuguese club been added to the Black Knights now.

[I'm_cabbaged]

https://x.com/cabinesport/status/1928863127971705254?s=46&t=VghJuoU_bl8ISs-zf5CmHg

That’s the Portuguese club been added to the Black Knights now.

Brilliant, they’ll maybe take Tavares off us 🤣🤣

[NAE NOOKIE]

https://x.com/cabinesport/status/1928863127971705254?s=46&t=VghJuoU_bl8ISs-zf5CmHg

That’s the Portuguese club been added to the Black Knights now.

So now the pecking order is:

Hibernian football club ( Scotland )
AFC Bournemouth ( England )
Lorient ( France )
Auckland FC ( New 2ealand )
That Portuguese lot ( Portugal )

That's 4 feeder clubs for us ... surely we can pick up a few gems :greengrin

[CentreForward]

So now the pecking order is:

Hibernian football club ( Scotland )
AFC Bournemouth ( England )
Lorient ( France )
Auckland FC ( New 2ealand )
That Portuguese lot ( Portugal )

That's 4 feeder clubs for us ... surely we can pick up a few gems :greengrin


:flag::na na::cb

[Unseen work]

They’re another good level team

Be interesting to see if we get any from there or Lorient this season

[Not In The Know]

Read in the Hibs Observer that this guy Jay Mellette, has done a full audit on our set up - just shows that there are so many benefits of our link up with the BKs https://archive.trainingground.guru/articles/bournemouth-hire-mellette-from-golden-knights-as-head-of-performance

[ruthven_raiders]

Read in the Hibs Observer that this guy Jay Mellette, has done a full audit on our set up - just shows that there are so many benefits of our link up with the BKs https://archive.trainingground.guru/articles/bournemouth-hire-mellette-from-golden-knights-as-head-of-performance

A good track record in MLS and cirque du soleil....

[Hibbyradge]

A good track record in MLS and cirque du soleil....

Sounds daft when you say it like that, but when you realise the scale of what he was responsible for, it becomes very impressive.

[ruthven_raiders]

Sounds daft when you say it like that, but when you realise the scale of what he was responsible for, it becomes very impressive.

It does lol good to see that we are getting good advice from some top professionals ...

[ChuckNor]

Drogheda United officially kicked out of Europe due to being part of a multi-club model and set to compete in same competition. What does this mean for us should the same situation arise?

[B.H.F.C]

Drogheda United officially kicked out of Europe due to being part of a multi-club model and set to compete in same competition. What does this mean for us should the same situation arise?

Nothing, because the Black Knights don’t have a majority or controlling share in Hibs.

[Eyrie]

Nothing, because the Black Knights don’t have a majority or controlling share in Hibs.

Their lack of control being proven by Foley complaining that we weren't listening to them.

Could be tricky for Hearts though given that they reference Jonestown Analytics at every possible opportunity which does raise questions of whether Bloom is calling the shots at the PBS.

[Kato]

Their lack of control being proven by Foley complaining that we weren't listening to them.

Could be tricky for Hearts though given that they reference Jonestown Analytics at every possible opportunity which does raise questions of whether Bloom is calling the shots at the PBS.Bloom doesn't have to be there. Just plug the Commodore64 in, wait until the cassette has ßkkzwhirrrrrd up the software and off they go.

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[ancient hibee]

Their lack of control being proven by Foley complaining that we weren't listening to them.

Could be tricky for Hearts though given that they reference Jonestown Analytics at every possible opportunity which does raise questions of whether Bloom is calling the shots at the PBS.

Bloom has no voting rights at Hearts so could never control anything. Don’t Hearts pay for the Analytics system?

[bingo70]

https://x.com/afcb_r0b/status/1935415865018573123?s=46&t=VghJuoU_bl8ISs-zf5CmHg

I don’t know what this means but may be of interest to the people keeping a track of the ownership model behind the black knights.

[MagicSwirlingShip]

https://x.com/afcb_r0b/status/1935415865018573123?s=46&t=VghJuoU_bl8ISs-zf5CmHg

I don’t know what this means but may be of interest to the people keeping a track of the ownership model behind the black knights.

I see their (Moirerense) highest valued player is a Brazilian lad called….. Alan.

[vercol36]

Good article in today’s NYT, about Foley’s successes (including getting one over on Tony Bloom in Australia 😉)

Behind a paywall so try either of these:

https://archive.is/fKFCM

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6435542/2025/06/21/bill-foley-auckland-fc-stanley-cup-steven-adams-golden-knights/

[GloryGlory]

Drogheda United officially kicked out of Europe due to being part of a multi-club model and set to compete in same competition. What does this mean for us should the same situation arise?

Not like UEFA to pick on the small fry and let the big fish get away with the same thing, eh? I recall a few years ago that RB Salzburg and RB Leipzig not only played in the same UEFA competition but were drawn together in the same group. Money talks, of course!

[Wilson]

Nothing, because the Black Knights don’t have a majority or controlling share in Hibs.

Yet there are folk on here would happily hand them full control. Certainly seems to be a case of being careful what you wish for.

[Wilson]

Not like UEFA to pick on the small fry and let the big fish get away with the same thing, eh? I recall a few years ago that RB Salzburg and RB Leipzig not only played in the same UEFA competition but were drawn together in the same group. Money talks, of course!

I think most of these multi club ownership concerns arrived on the back of those games. There was an investigation at the time and the fallout affects us now.

Crystal Palaces situation should be interesting. Their biggest single shareholder also owns Lyon. His holding in Palace 43%. Wonder how that will land.

[jacomo]

I think most of these multi club ownership concerns arrived on the back of those games. There was an investigation at the time and the fallout affects us now.

Crystal Palaces situation should be interesting. Their biggest single shareholder also owns Lyon. His holding in Palace 43%. Wonder how that will land.


John Textor seems on the verge of selling his stake in Palace, which should help them avoid any issues with participation in UEFA competitions.

[Billy Whizz]

John Textor seems on the verge of selling his stake in Palace, which should help them avoid any issues with participation in UEFA competitions.

Yes but it was supposed to be done my March

[itslegaltender]

giving Rangers the guy Irons on loan to me is ridiculous. Actively look to improve a competitor of another member of the Black Knights group?

[007]

giving Rangers the guy Irons on loan to me is ridiculous. Actively look to improve a competitor of another member of the Black Knights group?

Does that mean the only EPL players we take on loan should be from Bournemouth?

[superfurryhibby]

Does that mean the only EPL players we take on loan should be from Bournemouth?

How do you equate that with our part owners assisting one of our main rivals through a loan deal?

I find it hard to believe Bournemouth couldn't have found another team, in another league for Aarons.

[B.H.F.C]

How do you equate that with our part owners assisting one of our main rivals through a loan deal?

I find it hard to believe Bournemouth couldn't have found another team, in another league for Aarons.

What if the player was only interested in going to Rangers? What if Rangers were offering Bournemouth the best deal?

Bournemouth do what is best for Bournemouth, simple as that.

Multi club models exist all over the place now. Teams will loan or sell players to teams in the same leagues as other teams in the same group all the time.

[cabbageandribs1875]

i could only think of Davie Irons so had to google, turns out he's 63 now so probably not him











:)

[007]

How do you equate that with our part owners assisting one of our main rivals through a loan deal?

I find it hard to believe Bournemouth couldn't have found another team, in another league for Aarons.

A player from one of the other 19 EPL teams coming to us to develop would be, in the words of the other poster, actively looking to improve a competitor of another member of the Black Knights group.

[superfurryhibby]

A player from one of the other 19 EPL teams coming to us to develop would be, in the words of the other poster, actively looking to improve a competitor of another member of the Black Knights group.

There are degrees of development and there are differences between loaning a player who is unproven to loaning one who is very likely to be better than what both us and our rivals have.

I think it's ok to disagree with the logic of this move. Clearly not everything the Black Knights do will be in taking into account the best interests of Hibs.

[Paul1642]

Worth noting that clubs, including Hibs, frequently loan players too and from teams in their own league, let alone in leagues their owners have minority interest in. I don’t think there should be any expectation that Bournemouth don’t loan to SPL teams.

I do of course draw the line at Hearts.

[Victor]

giving Rangers the guy Irons on loan to me is ridiculous. Actively look to improve a competitor of another member of the Black Knights group?

Maybe he’s rubbish and he will be a hindrance

[tamig]

Maybe he’s rubbish and he will be a hindrance

Indeed. Any old Irons.

[Not In The Know]

Maybe he’s rubbish and he will be a hindrance


Zactly, he's mince and they want shot of him.

if he came to us they'd prob still have to pay him 20k a week

[Paul1642]

If the Josh Mulligan signing comes to pass, which suddenly looks likely, it appears the BKs might have played a blinder.

[1875Sean]

If the Josh Mulligan signing comes to pass, which suddenly looks likely, it appears the BKs might have played a blinder.

Where you hearing this?

[MagicSwirlingShip]

Where you hearing this?

Romano tweet & Hibs Observer

[Paul1642]

Where you hearing this?

Transfer thread. Fabrizio Romano and Hibs Observer both reporting it.

[jonny]

Where you hearing this?

The red tops have picked it up as well now. Seems like we've signed him.

[matty_f]

If the Josh Mulligan signing comes to pass, which suddenly looks likely, it appears the BKs might have played a blinder.

Always said there would be context behind the decision - the player wanted to go Rangers and Hibs didn’t need/want him because we’ve been going after Mulligan.

[The Harp Awakes]

Where you hearing this?

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/14992886/josh-mulligan-leave-dundee-scottish-premiership-rangers-hibs/