McKirdy will he be offski?

[Torto7062]

Anyone else think with Melkerson coming on instead of McKirdy that his time is defo up at Hibs ?
I mean 2 Subs off and he's not getting on is telling

[Carheenlea]

If the opportunity to move him on arises, I think Hibs will be very grateful and easy to deal with.

[HH81]

Swindon on loan?

[Hector Mudflap]

I hope not

boy needs a proper run in the team and a chance
I mean - Youan got his chance (continually )
Newell the same
Henderson same

baffling really

[Paulie Walnuts]

I wouldn’t be surprised at all to see Swindon take him back and us take a small hit on the fee paid.

[Tricla]

Youan was guff but we stuck with him and he's come good. I think Harry deserves the same. Clearly a talent and could be the maverick type we have from time to time.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Youan was guff but we stuck with him and he's come good. I think Harry deserves the same. Clearly a talent and could be the maverick type we have from time to time.

Youan looked good when he came in then completely lost form and has came good again.

McKirdy hasn’t looked good at all.

[B.H.F.C]

Youan was guff but we stuck with him and he's come good. I think Harry deserves the same. Clearly a talent and could be the maverick type we have from time to time.

Youan, even when guff, still showed the odd bit of promise. Still not entirely convinced with him but he’s miles ahead of McKirdy for me. Not seen anything from McKirdy in his time on the park to suggest he’s clearly a talent.

[BoomtownHibees]

Youan was guff but we stuck with him and he's come good. I think Harry deserves the same. Clearly a talent and could be the maverick type we have from time to time.

Where does the “clearly a talent” come from?

[Since452]

I hope so.

[Tricla]

Where does the “clearly a talent” come from?

Just watching his Swindon reel on YouTube. He's capable of doing things nobody else in our current squad is. IMO he needs more minutes and a goal to help him kick on.

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

Hope he stays tbh, done really well at Swindon and he’s a little **** which is exactly what we need


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[hibeg]

I hope he stays. He was excellent with Swindon and showed talent. Give the lad a chance.
I remember when we emptied Clayton Donaldson quickly, less than a season IIR.

[J-C]

Just watching his Swindon reel on YouTube. He's capable of doing things nobody else in our current squad is. IMO he needs more minutes and a goal to help him kick on.

Big difference from League 2 to here, he's no a wee laddie any more and has had numerous clubs all in league 2, all only 1 year before moving and only had 1 decent season.

[Northernhibee]

If he was 21 with a great attitude I’d be all for keeping him.

As it is he’s not that young, and he spends too much time moaning.

Wouldn’t lose any sleep if he were to move on.

[cameronw-hfc]

He can't play for anyone else. He's already played for two teams this season, so he's here till the end of the season either way. Not sure how it works if it was swindon he went back to, but you can only play for 2 teams in a season so he won't be going anywhere.

Find it absolutely mental folk are writing him off already, he's barely had a look in yet. I've thought he's looked decent in the sub apps he has had, won't judge him on 2 starts at Parkhead and Tynie. Players like Mckirdy need a run vs the rest of the league, get him some confidence first.

[Northernhibee]

He can't play for anyone else. He's already played for two teams this season, so he's here till the end of the season either way. Not sure how it works if it was swindon he went back to, but you can only play for 2 teams in a season so he won't be going anywhere.

Find it absolutely mental folk are writing him off already, he's barely had a look in yet. I've thought he's looked decent in the sub apps he has had, won't judge him on 2 starts at Parkhead and Tynie. Players like Mckirdy need a run vs the rest of the league, get him some confidence first.
Nisbet is only just back, as is McGeady. If he’s not been able to break into the first team with such a weak forward line then that raises huge questions for me.

[Libby Hibby]

Youan was guff but we stuck with him and he's come good. I think Harry deserves the same. Clearly a talent and could be the maverick type we have from time to time.

I’m not sure his talent is clear.

[Shrekko]

Just watching his Swindon reel on YouTube. He's capable of doing things nobody else in our current squad is. IMO he needs more minutes and a goal to help him kick on.

He's had one decent season in his career at a low level and is not a youngster. Honestly don't think that suggests he can do things that others can't. In fact I'd say Kevin Nisbet and Aiden McGeady did thing's today that McKirdy would struggle to do.

Getting more minutes and a goal is in his hands- and his hands only.

He's a Hibs hero in waiting for those in our support that love maverick types, but apart from a good wee 20 minutes v Killie away I've seen nothing else to suggest yet that he's the special player some think he could be. How long do we give it?

[cameronw-hfc]

He's had one decent season in his career at a low level and is not a youngster. Honestly don't think that suggests he can do things that others can't. In fact I'd say Kevin Nisbet and Aiden McGeady did thing's today that McKirdy would struggle to do.

Getting more minutes and a goal is in his hands- and his hands only.

He's a Hibs hero in waiting for those in our support that love maverick types, but apart from a good wee 20 minutes v Killie away I've seen nothing else to suggest yet that he's the special player some think he could be. How long do we give it?

I dunno, maybe more than 2 starts? He's come up from League 2, could just be adapting to the pace and standards up here first. Look at Rocky last season compared to this season, and Harry has had a few good seasons in his career. He's had one season as an out and out goalscorer, but that doesn't mean he's not been good elsewhere. He's suffered from being swapped around the front 3 his career, last season he got a consistent run at striker then out wide, wasn't chopping and changing weekly so he hit some goalscoring form.

[Libby Hibby]

I’d get rid, he’s not shown anything to me that he has something to offer the side.

[Eyrie]

He can't play for anyone else. He's already played for two teams this season, so he's here till the end of the season either way. Not sure how it works if it was swindon he went back to, but you can only play for 2 teams in a season so he won't be going anywhere.
That's pretty conclusive.


Find it absolutely mental folk are writing him off already, he's barely had a look in yet. I've thought he's looked decent in the sub apps he has had, won't judge him on 2 starts at Parkhead and Tynie. Players like Mckirdy need a run vs the rest of the league, get him some confidence first.
He can't be showing enough in training or his substitute appearances if he isn't getting a start. Certainly I've yet to see why we spent so long chasing him.

[Shrekko]

I dunno, maybe more than 2 starts? He's come up from League 2, could just be adapting to the pace and standards up here first. Look at Rocky last season compared to this season, and Harry has had a few good seasons in his career. He's had one season as an out and out goalscorer, but that doesn't mean he's not been good elsewhere. He's suffered from being swapped around the front 3 his career, last season he got a consistent run at striker then out wide, wasn't chopping and changing weekly so he hit some goalscoring form.

I'm guessing LJ would be more than happy to play him more often if he was meriting his place. He was after all our big last minute signing and cost a few bob.

Football is generally chicken and egg in that players who train well and grab their chances will play most. I'd be delighted if he steps up- just saying there has been no great evidence at this stage that it's happening yet people are saying what a talent he is. I'd just like to see it with my own eyes.

[GreenGray]

He’s one of those where if he left we would have never got a real idea of what he was like.

I thought he would have got on today maybe replacing McGeady but I guess not.

The minutes he’s had have been little and the games he’s started are two of our worst performances, we’ve had no real chance to truly judge him imo.


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[fiolex1]

Was a real last minute panic buy that just hasn’t worked out. I would like to see him to get more game time but looks well down the pecking order now. Will be away in the summer

[Unseen work]

Could only go back to Swindon given he’s only played for 2 teams this season.

Hopefully not though.

It’s hard coming on as a sub and then your two starts being against hearts and Celtic away from home when the whole team is poor is setting you up for failure.

Hopefully he gets a decent run in the team and shows us what he can do

[cameronw-hfc]

Was a real last minute panic buy that just hasn’t worked out. I would like to see him to get more game time but looks well down the pecking order now. Will be away in the summer

He actually wasn't. We had been trying to sign him for months and it just took a while to get it done. He stalled, then he wanted it but the clubs took time to get it sorted. He said on a podcast he was first contacted by Hibs end of last season but didn't want to rush into a decision.

[loanheadhibby]

He actually wasn't. We had been trying to sign him for months and it just took a while to get it done. He stalled, then he wanted it but the clubs took time to get it sorted. He said on a podcast he was first contacted by Hibs end of last season but didn't want to rush into a decision.

I bet he is wishing he never signed. It’s not worked out for either party. Hopefully Swindon want him back.

[LaMotta]

When he has played we have never created anything for him. I'd like to see him get a few decent goalscoring opportunities before judging him. From Swindon footage he looks good at finishing and one on ones.

[Paulie Walnuts]

He’s one of those where if he left we would have never got a real idea of what he was like.

I thought he would have got on today maybe replacing McGeady but I guess not.

The minutes he’s had have been little and the games he’s started are two of our worst performances, we’ve had no real chance to truly judge him imo.


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He’s had pretty much as many minutes as you could ever realistically hope for as a sub.

[cameronw-hfc]

When he has played we have never created anything for him. I'd like to see him get a few decent goalscoring opportunities before judging him. From Swindon footage he looks good at finishing and one on ones.

This is my point. Everyone saying he's done nothing in his sub appearances don't understand how important a run of games is for attacking players. For context, look at Magennis in his first season at Hibs where he was fit, but basically done nothing whenever he played. Got the odd game here and there and was anonymous compared to him when he got a run last season and this season.

I'd understand if he was giving it away all the time and missing sitters, but to me, when I watch him, he looks like a player starved of game time and match sharpness.

Saying he should do better in his sub apps isn't right imo. 15/20 mins here and there isn't exactly a fair metric to judge someone on. Lee's management of him seems so bizarre.

[cameronw-hfc]

He’s had pretty much as many minutes as you could ever realistically hope for as a sub.

Players like Mckirdy need runs of games, not sub appearances. He's a confidence player, like Youan. He needs a few starts in a row, not sub apps with 20 odd mins left. It's not fair to judge him on that

[GreenGray]

He’s had pretty much as many minutes as you could ever realistically hope for as a sub.

Exactly my point, only as a sub, until he gets a run of games as a starter we might never know.


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[CapitalGreen]

This is my point. Everyone saying he's done nothing in his sub appearances don't understand how important a run of games is for attacking players. For context, look at Magennis in his first season at Hibs where he was fit, but basically done nothing whenever he played. Got the odd game here and there and was anonymous compared to him when he got a run last season and this season.

I'd understand if he was giving it away all the time and missing sitters, but to me, when I watch him, he looks like a player starved of game time and match sharpness.

Saying he should do better in his sub apps isn't right imo. 15/20 mins here and there isn't exactly a fair metric to judge someone on. Lee's management of him seems so bizarre.

I remember there used to be a poster called calumhibee1 who was constantly slating Magennis’s performances from the bench during that time. He was all over any positive mention of Magennis like a rash saying he’d had plenty chances to show it, wouldn’t be good enough etc. Dunno what happened to that poster, think he got banned.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Players like Mckirdy need runs of games, not sub appearances. He's a confidence player, like Youan. He needs a few starts in a row, not sub apps with 20 odd mins left. It's not fair to judge him on that

Youan has 6 assists and a goal. He got assists in his 2nd and 3rd starts. He’s taken the opportunities given to him and as such he starts games. McGeady started his first game today and got an assist. He took the opportunity and will start games now. Nisbet came back from injury and has scored 5 in 5. He’s took his opportunity so he gets to start. Mckirdy has had 2 starts and has been so bad both times he’s been hooked at half time.

It wouldn’t be unreasonable to say Henderson is a confidence player and needs a run of games. Does he deserve it to? Melkersen as well could argue he needs starts to allow him more chance of getting a goal, does he deserve it?

We can’t just give players a run of starts to show what they can do, we need results and we need our best team out to get them. If McKirdy continues to show hee haw when he gets a shot, either as a sub or from the start then he quite rightly won’t get a run of starts.

[ZitellZeTime]

I'm still totally unsure of this boy, at the time I was quite excited. Bit of a character and the Swindon fans were gutted he was leaving. I know it's only league 2 and theres been lots of ***** picked up from that league by teams but also some who turned out to be class up here or down south in England.

I just haven't seen much from him that made the Swindon fans so gutted to lose him, but at the same time I haven't seen all that much of him. I thought Claros was ***** to start with and wanted him to **** then we all wanted to keep him, been another couple players like that in the past too so I hope he does it.

I looked at his career on Wiki the other week and his total games played and goals scored was almost 1 in 3 games or something but when you look close at it he had a great season last season with Swindon and started the league in good form for them this season. Then in League 2 a couple of years ago he did well at Carlisle and before and inbetween them and Swindon I'm not sure about how he played on the park but his goals to games ratio hasn't been that great.

Not sure if its screwing the nut, confidence or maybe he was off the bench a lot without a good run with some of those other teams. Then I've watched videos of him for past clubs and although its only league two he shows some nice touches, good on the turn with a decent bit of pace sitting on the edge of the defence and bursting through to the keeper.

Even if this is a level too high for him from what I've seen i've not seen him even try **** like that. I mean if he was trying that stuff and just wasn't pulling it off then it would make more sense to me. I'm hoping its just getting used to the league up here and he will come good but have a feeling with LJ saying we need to get rid to bring in more he might be off as probably a few league 2 clubs would take him on.

If that does happen he will probably end up doing great for them, get a move to a league 1 team who end up getting promoted and end up scoring a good few in the Championship getting him a move to a decent mid level team there or something. It seems to be the kind of thing that happens with a lot of players we let go. I could be wrong like and if we let him go he will be gash.

Hopefully he can show that here though but with it being January and even though he's not had a lot of starts for a run in the team I have a feeling that he could head back to league 2 and they will use the money on a defender.

[B.H.F.C]

This is my point. Everyone saying he's done nothing in his sub appearances don't understand how important a run of games is for attacking players. For context, look at Magennis in his first season at Hibs where he was fit, but basically done nothing whenever he played. Got the odd game here and there and was anonymous compared to him when he got a run last season and this season.

I'd understand if he was giving it away all the time and missing sitters, but to me, when I watch him, he looks like a player starved of game time and match sharpness.

Saying he should do better in his sub apps isn't right imo. 15/20 mins here and there isn't exactly a fair metric to judge someone on. Lee's management of him seems so bizarre.

Good players don’t need month upon month to show something.

Nisbet, back in the team, instant impact. Same with McGeady.

In the length of time McKirdy has had on the park you can judge ability. There might be mitigating things that mean the player isn’t able to play to their full potential. But McKirdy has shown nothing in his time on the park to suggest he’s capable of making an impact. He was also given the opportunity in the two friendlies during the World Cup to push himself forward and claim the jersey but, other than running about a bit, didn’t show anything.

[Since452]

Good players don’t need month upon month to show something.

Nisbet, back in the team, instant impact. Same with McGeady.

In the length of time McKirdy has had on the park you can judge ability. There might be mitigating things that mean the player isn’t able to play to their full potential. But McKirdy has shown nothing in his time on the park to suggest he’s capable of making an impact. He was also given the opportunity in the two friendlies during the World Cup to push himself forward and claim the jersey but, other than running about a bit, didn’t show anything.

Bang on.

[DinkyTwo]

Good players don’t need month upon month to show something.

Nisbet, back in the team, instant impact.

Nisbet was also ***** against Celtic and Hearts tbf

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[B.H.F.C]

Nisbet was also ***** against Celtic and Hearts tbf

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5 goals in 5 games is a pretty decent return in fairness. Players aren’t going to play well every single week, but if they can play well more often than not then that’ll do for me.

[Donegal Hibby]

I've been one that's not really been impressed with Mckirdy both in his play and his attitude from the very first moment he joined us , at times he's looked good and others he's looked like a headless Chicken running about a lot ( maybe unfair) and moaning or giving out to referee's which I think is abit daft for a 26 year old player to do . The goals he scored last year some were very good and shows he is a good player . I said awhile ago when Boyle was ruled out and Nisbet was still injured he had a good chance to stake a place in the team but he never grabbed his chance , he does need some game time though would any of you drop Youan , Nisbet or Mcgeady on today's performance's to accommodate Mckirdy, I wouldn't to be honest with you. Would I want to see Mckirdy move on ? I'm 50/50 on that one purely for the reason he's not been at us that long and I like to see players get a decent chance at our club !

[WeeRussell]

I dunno, maybe more than 2 starts? He's come up from League 2, could just be adapting to the pace and standards up here first. Look at Rocky last season compared to this season, and Harry has had a few good seasons in his career. He's had one season as an out and out goalscorer, but that doesn't mean he's not been good elsewhere. He's suffered from being swapped around the front 3 his career, last season he got a consistent run at striker then out wide, wasn't chopping and changing weekly so he hit some goalscoring form.

That feels like the difference.. seems like people couldn’t wait to jump-on Rocky and label him a bombscare when really always looked capable of playing in our team.

We’re still waiting on McKirdy to show us something yet (likely the same) some want to make endless excuses/blame others for it.

[Paulie Walnuts]

5 goals in 5 games is a pretty decent return in fairness. Players aren’t going to play well every single week, but if they can play well more often than not then that’ll do for me.

:agree:

If Mckirdy is to get a run of starts it needs to be at the expense of either Youan, Nisbet or McGeady who look quite clearly our best front 3. Youan has our most assists, Nisbet has a goal a game and McGeady looks like he could be one of our best players. It ain’t happening until he starts showing something in his sub appearances.

[LunasBoots]

Deserves a chance, maybe he'll come good next season or in the coming months, always a hard task to make the leap up here from where he was, I'm sure he's still getting used to it all.

[jeffers]

I’ll never understand why he gets so little game time yet he starts at two of our toughest away fixtures. If Johnson wanted to start him why not do so in “easier” games. Still no idea if he’s got it or not to play at our level.

[Exuberance1875]

I’m not overly sure he’ll get a lot of game time, considering he didn’t feature at all today. I’m not sure who you’d start him over either?

This is clearly just an appearance thing, but the hands tucked up the sleeves combined with the low socks etc doesn’t strike me as someone who’s ready to come on and make a big impact in games. Looks so lightweight in the SPL, which is a massive step up from Swindon IMO

[DinkyTwo]

5 goals in 5 games is a pretty decent return in fairness. Players aren’t going to play well every single week, but if they can play well more often than not then that’ll do for me.I guess my point was more around the opportunities McKirdy has had. In those games, nobody played well, even Nisbet.

I'd like to see him get a good chunk of minutes against Dundee Utd.

Got a feeling that players like him and Melkerson will come onto a good game with others around them like Nisbet, McGeady and Magennis.

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[B.H.F.C]

I guess my point was more around the opportunities McKirdy has had. In those games, nobody played well, even Nisbet.

I'd like to see him get a good chunk of minutes against Dundee Utd.

Got a feeling that players like him and Melkerson will come onto a good game with others around them like Nisbet, McGeady and Magennis.

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Who are you dropping to give him a good chunk of minutes against Dundee Utd?

There is only one way for him to get more minutes and that is to do something in the minutes he does get.

[LaMotta]

This is my point. Everyone saying he's done nothing in his sub appearances don't understand how important a run of games is for attacking players. For context, look at Magennis in his first season at Hibs where he was fit, but basically done nothing whenever he played. Got the odd game here and there and was anonymous compared to him when he got a run last season and this season.

I'd understand if he was giving it away all the time and missing sitters, but to me, when I watch him, he looks like a player starved of game time and match sharpness.

Saying he should do better in his sub apps isn't right imo. 15/20 mins here and there isn't exactly a fair metric to judge someone on. Lee's management of him seems so bizarre.

Agreed!

[Baader]

You've got to take your chance when it comes, hit the ground running. It's football, it's cutthroat that's how it is.

McKirdy needs to work hard in training, keep on his toes and give the manager a selection problem by contributing something next appearance. His chances of getting on the pitch are probably diminishing with Nisbet back and scoring, McGeady hopefully fit to start games now and Youan hopefully over a bad bit of form.

Hoping the guy isn't a dud but League 2 is not a good standard (not saying top flight Scottish is gold standard exactly but it is noticeably harder) and it'll be a step up in levels (and expected levels) of professionalism. He needs to knuckle down, train well and be ready to take his chance if it arises.

[Forza Fred]

He can't play for anyone else. He's already played for two teams this season, so he's here till the end of the season either way. Not sure how it works if it was swindon he went back to, but you can only play for 2 teams in a season so he won't be going anywhere.

Find it absolutely mental folk are writing him off already, he's barely had a look in yet. I've thought he's looked decent in the sub apps he has had, won't judge him on 2 starts at Parkhead and Tynie. Players like Mckirdy need a run vs the rest of the league, get him some confidence first.

My reading of the FIFA rules is that he can play for 3.

Apparently used to be 2 but they changed it to 3.

[Sir David Gray]

My reading of the FIFA rules is that he can play for 3.

Apparently used to be 2 but they changed it to 3.

You can be registered with 3 clubs per season but you can only play official matches for 2 clubs per season.

[basehibby]

McKirdy will have watched the FA Cup Upset tonight with great interest having scored his 1st senior goal for Stevenage while on loan from Aston Villa where he graduated from their academy without ever making a 1st team start. Bet he's got mixed feelings about that one!

From looking at his history on wiki Harry seems like one of those live wire strikers that thrive on confidence - unpredictable and a bit temperamental (as atested by the notorious milkshake incident). The side of that personality that won him his move to Hibs as well as the hearts of Swindon fans brought a rich vein of goalscoring form for Swindon in League 2 (League 2 is certainly a lower level than the SPL but it's also a lot stronger than the Scottish Championship)

We've yet to see that sort of form from him at Hibs - from the little I've seen of him, while showing decent touch and pace he's made poor decisions and thus struggled to make any impact so far. Is he trying too hard? Or not hard enough?!? It's hard to tell at this stage - I live in hope that he bangs one in soon and that opens the floodgates.

[Real Emerald]

McKirdy will have watched the FA Cup Upset tonight with great interest having scored his 1st senior goal for Stevenage while on loan from Aston Villa where he graduated from their academy without ever making a 1st team start. Bet he's got mixed feelings about that one!

From looking at his history on wiki Harry seems like one of those live wire strikers that thrive on confidence - unpredictable and a bit temperamental (as atested by the notorious milkshake incident). The side of that personality that won him his move to Hibs as well as the hearts of Swindon fans brought a rich vein of goalscoring form for Swindon in League 2 (League 2 is certainly a lower level than the SPL but it's also a lot stronger than the Scottish Championship)

We've yet to see that sort of form from him at Hibs - from the little I've seen of him, while showing decent touch and pace he's made poor decisions and thus struggled to make any impact so far. Is he trying too hard? Or not hard enough?!? It's hard to tell at this stage - I live in hope that he bangs one in soon and that opens the floodgates.

You can’t really measure quality in different leagues but I’m not convinced that the English 4th division is much better than our Championship. Who knows?

[Forza Fred]

You can be registered with 3 clubs per season but you can only play official matches for 2 clubs per season.

Ok.

Guess it would mean the parent club could loan you out to two different clubs.

[tonyrougier123]

No way have we seen enough yet,has to get a run of games first,boys on a big contract.
He’s one I’m hoping to see more of.

[Since452]

Deserves a chance, maybe he'll come good next season or in the coming months, always a hard task to make the leap up here from where he was, I'm sure he's still getting used to it all.

Why does he deserve it? Shown nothing in his appearances so far. And who do we drop to accommodate him? We'd be instantly weaker if we started him. His best hope is sub appearances but then Melkersen looks the better player so he'll be lucky to even get that.

[hibsforeurope]

If any one player fits the comments made by LJ after the derby it’s mckirdy. He just doesn't look or play like an intelligent footballer, It’s all headless chicken stuff.

We need better quality and if we can move him on we should. We have younger projects who have more time to reach their potential, mckirdys shown less than some of the others who’ve been emptied or written off.

[Dashing Bob S]

Our recent history shows that if you are a ‘confidence player’ Easter Road is one of the last places you should be to accrue such confidence. I sympathize with McKirdy and practically ever other player on the staff.

[Since452]

Our recent history shows that if you are a ‘confidence player’ Easter Road is one of the last places you should be to accrue such confidence. I sympathize with McKirdy and practically ever other player on the staff.

If they can't deal with the pressure from fans then our club is too big for them and they should be at a Ross County or the like. If players can't come in and hit the ground running at Hibs then they are always going to be under fire. Rocky Bushiri to his immense credit rolled up his socks and got on with it and is now one of our best players. He has the mentality to be a a club like Hibs. He seems to be the exception rather than the norm though.

[cameronw-hfc]

If they can't deal with the pressure from fans then our club is too big for them and they should be at a Ross County or the like. If players can't come in and hit the ground running at Hibs then they are always going to be under fire. Rocky Bushiri to his immense credit rolled up his socks and got on with it and is now one of our best players. He has the mentality to be a a club like Hibs. He seems to be the exception rather than the norm though.


It's almost never as black and white as this though. Maybe to fans it looks like that, but we never actually know whats going on behind the scenes and a lot can factor into poor form. Just because a player has done well elsewhere and doesn't cut it straight away at Hibs it doesn't mean the clubs too big for them, he could be adjusting to moving away from his family and friends, some people take longer than others, it could be something off the pitch, it could be something at training, we never actually know. Saying if they can't deal with the pressure then the clubs too big for them is way too simplified.

There's been so so many examples of players moving to a new club and taking time to adjust at much smaller and much bigger clubs than Hibs.

[MWHIBBIES]

If they can't deal with the pressure from fans then our club is too big for them and they should be at a Ross County or the like. If players can't come in and hit the ground running at Hibs then they are always going to be under fire. Rocky Bushiri to his immense credit rolled up his socks and got on with it and is now one of our best players. He has the mentality to be a a club like Hibs. He seems to be the exception rather than the norm though.

Or maybe we could just not abuse players?

[BSEJVT]

Exactly my point, only as a sub, until he gets a run of games as a starter we might never know.


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I am 60 overweight and was never that good at my prime

Do folk think a run of games would help me?

You need to earn the right to get a run of games in training or when coming on as a sub

He’s clearly not doing that and won’t get a run until he does

[jeffers]

I am 60 overweight and was never that good at my prime

Do folk think a run of games would help me?

You need to earn the right to get a run of games in training or when coming on as a sub

He’s clearly not doing that and won’t get a run until he does

You’d have to assume he must have been doing something in training for Johnson to start him in two games though. Hooking him at half time in both won’t have helped his confidence.

[cameronw-hfc]

I am 60 overweight and was never that good at my prime

Do folk think a run of games would help me?

You need to earn the right to get a run of games in training or when coming on as a sub

He’s clearly not doing that and won’t get a run until he does


Would it help you become a professional? No. If you played a game every week for 6 weeks would you notice a big difference in yourself compared to the first of the run? Yes, obviously.

This isn't the point you think it is, professional players need runs of games to get going. Scott Allan didn't exactly blow us away in his first few games, I actually remember rolk on here saying he was anonymous and wouldn't cut it, 5/6 games later we were shown just how good he really was.

[Paulie Walnuts]

I am 60 overweight and was never that good at my prime

Do folk think a run of games would help me?

You need to earn the right to get a run of games in training or when coming on as a sub

He’s clearly not doing that and won’t get a run until he does

:agree:

I really don’t get the idea that we simply must let him start games.

He shows nothing when he’s on the pitch. We need results, starting guys like McKirdy, Henderson and Melkersen just to give them a run of games would be an absolutely abysmal decision and would make us less likely to get those results, especially when they’d have to replace either Nisbet who has 5 in 5, Youan who has more assists than anyone or McGeady who’s looked excellent since he came back.

For the people that are so insistent he gets a run of starts, what one of Youan, Nisbet or McGeady drops to the bench for 4 or 5 games to give McKirdy a run of starts?

[BSEJVT]

Would it help you become a professional? No. If you played a game every week for 6 weeks would you notice a big difference in yourself compared to the first of the run? Yes, obviously.

This isn't the point you think it is, professional players need runs of games to get going. Scott Allan didn't exactly blow us away in his first few games, I actually remember rolk on here saying he was anonymous and wouldn't cut it, 5/6 games later we were shown just how good he really was.

Don’t agree

McKirdy has been fit

Look at the impact Nisbet has had immediately on coming back from a long long time out, no football nothing.

The mistake you are making is in thinking that he would go from zero to hero just by playing, he needs to have the ability to play at this level.

I have seen nothing to suggest he has and until we do he is going to need to bide his time and work away to prove he is deserving of that chance.

Let’s hope for all our sakes he does, but the idea that he should get a chance to show what he has just because, is ridiculous

[cameronw-hfc]

Don’t agree

McKirdy has been fit

Look at the impact Nisbet has had immediately on coming back from a long long time out, no football nothing.

The mistake you are making is in thinking that he would go from zero to hero just by playing, he needs to have the ability to play at this level.

I have seen nothing to suggest he has and until we do he is going to need to bide his time and work away to prove he is deserving of that chance.

Let’s hope for all our sakes he does, but the idea that he should get a chance to show what he has just because is ridiculous


I don't think he's going to go from zero to hero if he gets a few starts, im merely saying some players need a run of games to see their full potential. I've got a funny feeling Mckirdy is that type of player. Everyone is different just because one player can hit the ground running, it doesn't mean someone else automatically will or should.

All im saying is im going to reserve judgment and hold back on the posts saying hes crap and not what we need until I've seen more of him because as it stands, I don't think hes had enough minutes to really show what hes got.

[BSEJVT]

I don't think he's going to go from zero to hero if he gets a few starts, im merely saying some players need a run of games to see their full potential. I've got a funny feeling Mckirdy is that type of player. Everyone is different just because one player can hit the ground running, it doesn't mean someone else automatically will or should.

All im saying is im going to reserve judgment and hold back on the posts saying hes crap and not what we need until I've seen more of him because as it stands, I don't think hes had enough minutes to really show what hes got.

Tbh I haven’t formed any opinion on him yet as there hasn’t been enough to see.

But it’s funny how different players are judged differently in that some are held to need a run of games where others are dismissed as pish straight out the gate.

If you were to ask me my view I would say I was concerned at how little impact he has made in getting himself in the team.

But that we should wait and see until if and when he does, if he does not the answer is there in front of us.

[Mcbizz1998]

Youan was guff but we stuck with him and he's come good. I think Harry deserves the same. Clearly a talent and could be the maverick type we have from time to time.

Youan has shown more in his first game than McKirdy has in his whole time with hibs.

He looks like a wee boy out there.

[DinkyTwo]

Who are you dropping to give him a good chunk of minutes against Dundee Utd?

There is only one way for him to get more minutes and that is to do something in the minutes he does get.

Would give Youan the first 60 mins and if nothing is coming off for him - and the game management allows it - I'd put McKirdy on.

All if, buts and maybes at this stage though as we've no idea how the game will pan out. In an ideal world, we'd be 3 up and any of the attackers could come off.

I get what you're saying, but to come on and get a goal or an assist with 10 mins to go isn't something aby of our current squad are doing. So to expect it from McKirdy is a tad unreasonable

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[jeffers]

Tbh I haven’t formed any opinion on him yet as there hasn’t been enough to see.

But it’s funny how different players are judged differently in that some are held to need a run of games where others are dismissed as pish straight out the gate.

If you were to ask me my view I would say I was concerned at how little impact he has made in getting himself in the team.

But that we should wait and see until if and when he does, if he does not the answer is there in front of us.

Your second paragraph in particular is a really fair point. In McKirdy’s case he’s come off the back of a really good season, so has shown he has something about him albeit at a lower level. Some of the other signings that have been dismissed as pish haven’t and look, on paper much more of a gamble - Tavares being an example.

[MrRobot]

With McKirdy, I have no idea if he is doing enough in training and granted he hasn’t shown much in the limited time he has played but i simply just don’t want to rule him out yet and want to see more of him.

I reckon there is a player in there so would be disappointed to see him leave.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Would give Youan the first 60 mins and if nothing is coming off for him - and the game management allows it - I'd put McKirdy on.

All if, buts and maybes at this stage though as we've no idea how the game will pan out. In an ideal world, we'd be 3 up and any of the attackers could come off.

I get what you're saying, but to come on and get a goal or an assist with 10 mins to go isn't something aby of our current squad are doing. So to expect it from McKirdy is a tad unreasonable

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McKirdy has had half an hour or more the majority of times he’s come on as a sub. His average sub appearance is 28 mins long (not including added time). He’s also only remained on the bench once and that was yesterday, so he gets on near enough every week.

Over the piece he’s not being asked to conjure something up in 10 mins, he’s actually getting a pretty good run at it as far as being a sub goes.

[The Modfather]

It’s just a matter of what window he moves on in IMO. I think he’ll end up filed alongside Mueller. The usual epitaph “a player in there”, “wasn’t given a run of games”, “offered little in his time here”, “not clear what role we bought him for”.

[KWJ]

It is odd that the two starts he has had have been at Tynecastle and Celtic Park.

He could definitely have done more in his appearances form the bench but I think he has showed some spark, especially at Rugby Park where everyone else was having a howler.

[BoyledEgg]

He's got low IQ

[Groathillgrump]

He's got low IQ

What's that got to do with his ability as a footballer? :confused:

I'm sure that some of our greatest players over the years haven't been particularly intelligent.



EDIT: Just seen the post about players 'High football IQ.' :greengrin

[Onion]

He's got low IQ

very good :greengrin

[Onion]

Under different circs, McKirdy would be given time and space to settle in however Hibs are in dire straights. We're on the edges a disastrous relegation battle and there is simply no room for any sentiment or experimentation while that's the case. Jobs and careers are on the line.

Only thing we've seen from McKirdy is his ability to scamper around the pitch. Maybe harsh, but that's simply not good enough at this point in time. He's getting well paid to make a positive difference on the pitch, has been given opportunities to do that, but coming up woefully short in all departments.

Hibs are often accused of being a soft touch and you can see why from some of the sentimental nonsense about McKirdy.

[SHODAN]

The title of this thread is a bit misleading, can it be changed please?

[SJNB Hibby]

:thumbsup:
very good :greengrin

[allezsauzee]

McKirdy isn't good enough to play at this level. He showed the odd nice touch and runs about a lot but doesn't really impact a game and doesn't have the physicality to make it at a level higher where he was operating for Swindon. I feel that if our scouts bothered to have players watched before they tried to sign them then we might avoid signing most of those that just aren't good enough and never will be.

[California-Hibs]

Misleading title. Should be changed.

[WhileTheChief..]

^^That was bugging me too.

Now your post is confusing though. Absolutely nothing wrong with the thread title :greengrin

[PHeffernan]

Crap thread title.

What of McKirdy?

Currently Hibs best strikers are Nisbet and Kukharevych
This summer one will leave for a few million quid and the other will return to France.

That will leave Hibs with 4 strikers:
26 year old McKirdy
20 year old Melkersen
19 year old O'Connor
18 year old Laidlaw

Between now and next season these 4 players will be judged by the coaches and management staff and decisions made about whether they are good enough or potentially good enough to play in the first team next season.
If they are not considered good enough a new striker or strikers will be brought in and some of them could be moved on.

McKirdy will be judged most harshly. At 26 he should be a responsible man and athlete ready to do what is required on and off the pitch to make his mark.
Johnson has spoken about having to tell him off. It's time for him to grow up and push on even if it is targetting next season by working hard in training.
We have seen some good work from him against Dundee Utd and Kilmarnock. He needs to do more of the same.

[Percy Vere]

Youan looked good when he came in then completely lost form and has came good again.

McKirdy hasn’t looked good at all.

Hardly kicked a ball to be fair.
Like to see him start a few games see if there’s signs of improvement.
Or he can go if there’s options

[Svengali]

He’s got until end of the season for me. Seen nothing from him so far. If he can’t force his way into a team that is on a shocking run and pre Nisbet, strikers firing more blanks than a successful Vasectomy, i really do worry. All i’ve seen from him is someone running about and moaning at refs - we can all do that. Has he even missed a chance/looked like scoring since he got here?. Too many players at this club that we’re hoping come good. It’s up to him to prove he is good enough

[Stokesy's on fire]

Hardly kicked a ball to be fair.
Like to see him start a few games see if there’s signs of improvement.
Or he can go if there’s options

Most suitable option here would be a loan deal to a Scottish championship team. Let him find his form at another club. We need players ready to compete.

[bigwheel]

Most suitable option here would be a loan deal to a Scottish championship team. Let him find his form at another club. We need players ready to compete.

Don’t think he can play for another club this season - already played for two . He’s hardly had any time to settle . And almost never played the same position twice in a row . Why don’t we just wait until he’s played more football for us . Rarely understand the rush to judgement on signings . He’s clearly got some decent skills .

[Paulie Walnuts]

Hardly kicked a ball to be fair.
Like to see him start a few games see if there’s signs of improvement.
Or he can go if there’s options

What one of McGeady, Nisbet or Youan should sit out for a few games to give him a shot?

McGeady looks excellent, Nisbet has 5 in 5 and Youan has the most assists in the squad.

[The Modfather]

Don’t think he can play for another club this season - already played for two . He’s hardly had any time to settle . And almost never played the same position twice in a row . Why don’t we just wait until he’s played more football for us . Rarely understand the rush to judgement on signings . He’s clearly got some decent skills .

Or it’s an issue with how we are spending our money. We can’t spend fees on guys, like McKirdy & Melkerson, who after 6 months or 12 months have made no impact whatsoever and we are still talking about needing a run of games.

What position did we sign McKirdy for? We appear to have signed him off the back of a good season and the fact he can play multiple positions. Not that we signed him, for example, specifically for the left wing and it’s a bonus he can play through the middle or on the right.

Same with Melkerson. We paid a big fee for him, yet generally only play one up front. Do we expect him to be able to play through the middle on his own one day when he’s ready?

[bigwheel]

Or it’s an issue with how we are spending our money. We can’t spend fees on guys, like McKirdy & Melkerson, who after 6 months or 12 months have made no impact whatsoever and we are still talking about needing a run of games.

What position did we sign McKirdy for? We appear to have signed him off the back of a good season and the fact he can play multiple positions. Not that we signed him, for example, specifically for the left wing and it’s a bonus he can play through the middle or on the right.

Same with Melkerson. We paid a big fee for him, yet generally only play one up front. Do we expect him to be able to play through the middle on his own one day when he’s ready?

I’m sure we signed McKirdy because he can play a variety of positions . That’s one of his attractions he’s hardly played many minutes - let’s give the guy a chance before we make judgement on him . Players can’t prove their worth on 15 mins here, 45 mins there . It’s not the basis to help them perform .

Melkerson was messaged as a development signing . You can argue the rights or wrongs of that. But Why do we want to make a call on him now . He’s probably had to play more than we planned due to injuries to others .

[The Modfather]

I’m sure we signed McKirdy because he can play a variety of positions . That’s one of his attractions he’s hardly played many minutes - let’s give the guy a chance before we make judgement on him . Players can’t prove their worth on 15 mins here, 45 mins there . It’s not the basis to help them perform .

Melkerson was messaged as a development signing . You can argue the rights or wrongs of that. But Why do we want to make a call on him now . He’s probably had to play more than we planned due to injuries to others .

Signing players who can cover various positions is desirable. However if we are spending the kind of reported fee we did on McKirdy there has to be a set position he’s earmarked for or a player he’s seen as an upgrade on.

Whether the fault lies with the player, the club, the manager or all of the above it’s damning how little he has featured. Particularly given Boyle’s injury so it’s not like he only has two positions to realistically compete for with Boyle first name on the team sheet on the right.

I can’t see him being here next season and ultimately he will end up filed alongside Mueller.

[Since452]

I've been very vocal on here about McKirdy and given him a hard time. I do accept that players need more than five minutes at the club. My worry is that i've not seen McKirdy coming anywhere near influencing a game yet or contribute anything other than running around a bit. He looks like a boy playing against men and at 26 that concerns me. Rocky had a hard time last season but i don't think he was anywhere near as bad as people were making out. I've just not seen anything in McKirdy yet. Melkersen is only 19 and ahead of him in my opinion.

[thebausburst]

I've been very vocal on here about McKirdy and given him a hard time. I do accept that players need more than five minutes at the club. My worry is that i've not seen McKirdy coming anywhere near influencing a game yet or contribute anything other than running around a bit. He looks like a boy playing against men and at 26 that concerns me. Rocky had a hard time last season but i don't think he was anywhere near as bad as people were making out. I've just not seen anything in McKirdy yet. Melkersen is only 19 and ahead of him in my opinion.

Agree with this 100%, McKirdy not done a single thing that has made me think oh he’s a player, whereas Youhan showed early on when he laid on the equaliser in the derby for Boyle that he had something about him, McKirdy just runs about a lot.

[DH1875]

Most suitable option here would be a loan deal to a Scottish championship team. Let him find his form at another club. We need players ready to compete.

See if you were talking about Melkerson or another young guy then I'd agree but McKirdy isn't some young lad. Think he is the same age as Nisbet and just look at the difference. Especially if you also consider Nisbet is coming off a long term injury too.

[J-C]

I've said earlier that McKirdy has played his whole career in League 2, 3 seasons on loan and 3 seasons at 3 different clubs with only 1 decent season in 6. He's struggling here maybe because League 2 in England is his level and it's not a very good level IMO.

[Ronniekirk]

I've said earlier that McKirdy has played his whole career in League 2, 3 seasons on loan and 3 seasons at 3 different clubs with only 1 decent season in 6. He's struggling here maybe because League 2 in England is his level and it's not a very good level IMO.

you could well be right But it’s clear he isn’t doing enough in training for L J to play him more often ,and the player himself has said he needs to be playing regularly at this stage of his career .He said he needs a run of around 10 games to prove he can start scoring ,
If he isn’t playing ,he says he won’t be happy

So not sure how it’s in anyones interests to keep him this window to be honest Am not sure hevis going to get any better with so little game time and no B team games to develop him

[J-C]

you could well be right But it’s clear he isn’t doing enough in training for L J to play him more often and the player himself has said he needs to be playing regularly at this stage of his career He said he needs a run of around 10 games to prove he can start scoring
If he isn’t playing he isnt playing he says he won’t be happy won’t be happy

So not sure how it’s in anyones interests to keep him this window to be honest Am not sure hevis going to get any better with do little game time and no B team games to develop him


10 bloody games, the season will be nearly over ffs, if he's not playing and he's not happy, tough sh-it.

[Since452]

10 bloody games, the season will be nearly over ffs, if he's not playing and he's not happy, tough sh-it.

Correct. We don't have the luxury of giving him 10 games to get him up to speed. The league is far too competitive for that. We need to be starting our strongest, fittest team in every game. It's been asked already but who would we drop? He needs to be ready to take any chance he gets through injury/suspension or sub appearances. If he can't then it's not going to work for him here.

[J-C]

Correct. We don't have the luxury of giving him 10 games to get him up to speed. The league is far too competitive for that. We need to be starting our strongest, fittest team in every game. It's been asked already but who would we drop? He needs to be ready to take any chance he gets through injury/suspension or sub appearances. If he can't then it's not going to work for him here.


Had 2 starts and hooked at HT in both, he's also had a good few 15-20 min appearances and done nowt of note, I think it's a case of move on and look again.

[Ronniekirk]

10 bloody games, the season will be nearly over ffs, if he's not playing and he's not happy, tough sh-it.
Which is why I said I don’t see how it’s in anyones interests to keep him in this widow

[PHeffernan]

Which is why I said I don’t see how it’s in anyones interests to keep him in this widow

I can think of 350,000 reasons to keep him in this window.
They won't give up on the guy at this stage unless someone wants to give us most of our money back.

[J-C]

I can think of 350,000 reasons to keep him in this window.
They won't give up on the guy at this stage unless someone wants to give us most of our money back.

Where are you getting £350k from, more in the region of £100k.

[jacomo]

Just watching his Swindon reel on YouTube. He's capable of doing things nobody else in our current squad is. IMO he needs more minutes and a goal to help him kick on.


At that level he is capable of doing things. He’s yet to show he can do it at our level.

[PHeffernan]

Where are you getting £350k from, more in the region of £100k.

My £350k was a guess.
Is your £100k a guess?

[J-C]

My £350k was a guess.
Is your £100k a guess?


Yes but a more realistic one.

[Since452]

At that level he is capable of doing things. He’s yet to show he can do it at our level.

Could you imagine Kevin Nisbet or Youan playing League 2 football in England? They'd absolutely run riot in that league. It's a big step up to Scottish Premiership football and we can see just how big a step up it is with McKirdy. I hope he comes good but we need him to be ready when called upon now, not next season.

[LustForLeith]

I think Hibs signed McKirdy off the back of a rumour we were after him and the reaction of Hibs fans on social media saying he’d be a good signing

[Iain G]

I think Hibs signed McKirdy off the back of a rumour we were after him and the reaction of Hibs fans on social media saying he’d be a good signing

We had been after him for months 🤣

[hibsbollah]

What one of McGeady, Nisbet or Youan should sit out for a few games to give him a shot?

McGeady looks excellent, Nisbet has 5 in 5 and Youan has the most assists in the squad.

This is the key thing for me. Those three are, if not undroppable, certainly looking dangerous and having quality in form talent on the actual park is gold dust with the position we’re in. If McKirdy wants game time he’ll need to be very patient.

[LeithMike]

Could you imagine Kevin Nisbet or Youan playing League 2 football in England? They'd absolutely run riot in that league. It's a big step up to Scottish Premiership football and we can see just how big a step up it is with McKirdy. I hope he comes good but we need him to be ready when called upon now, not next season.

You just don’t know that for sure. Youan, while improving, hasn’t exactly shown great decision-making in the penalty box.

McKirdy has barely had any starts other than our most difficult games and, in any event, appears to be shunted out wide. Obviously the longer who goes without games and goals the more pressure on him. You can see in the warm-up that he is a penalty box player and is not going to contribute hugely to build-up play.

I think there is a good striker there (proven with Swindon which is certainly not miles below our league other than Rangers and Celtic) but he seems to have been poorly managed. His manager should be trying to get his confidence up by making the focal point of the team in our home games to get in the goals. That’s clearly not happened and he’s pretty much been thrown to the wolves in our most difficult games away from home when we struggle to get the ball forward. That’s poor management for me and it makes you wonder if he was a signing LJ wanted. That’s not the lad’s fault and, in his limited appearances, there is no lack of effort but you can see the frustration.

I’m pretty certain that given a run of games playing centrally in a team with Magennis in the midfield (which improves us), we’d start to see his attributes come out. If he’s not given that chance then it has been a real waste of money and not exactly fair on the player. It just shows the lack of alignment between recruitment and coach.

[Paulie Walnuts]

You just don’t know that for sure. Youan, while improving, hasn’t exactly shown great decision-making in the penalty box.

McKirdy has barely had any starts other than our most difficult games and, in any event, appears to be shunted out wide. Obviously the longer who goes without games and goals the more pressure on him. You can see in the warm-up that he is a penalty box player and is not going to contribute hugely to build-up play.

I think there is a good striker there (proven with Swindon which is certainly not miles below our league other than Rangers and Celtic) but he seems to have been poorly managed. His manager should be trying to get his confidence up by making the focal point of the team in our home games to get in the goals. That’s clearly not happened and he’s pretty much been thrown to the wolves in our most difficult games away from home when we struggle to get the ball forward. That’s poor management for me and it makes you wonder if he was a signing LJ wanted. That’s not the lad’s fault and, in his limited appearances, there is no lack of effort but you can see the frustration.

I’m pretty certain that given a run of games playing centrally in a team with Magennis in the midfield (which improves us), we’d start to see his attributes come out. If he’s not given that chance then it has been a real waste of money and not exactly fair on the player. It just shows the lack of alignment between recruitment and coach.

Absolutely no chance should the manager make him the focal point of our team. That would be utter madness up there with the day Lennon started Shaw and Lewis Allan at Livi.

What sort of message does that send to Nisbet who has scored 5 in 5? Do well and you’ll drop to the bench in favour of a guy who’s done absolutely hee haw?

We’d be a significantly poorer team if we started McKirdy ahead of a striker who has 5 in 5, a winger who has our most assists and another winger who looks excellent.

[Since452]

You just don’t know that for sure. Youan, while improving, hasn’t exactly shown great decision-making in the penalty box.

McKirdy has barely had any starts other than our most difficult games and, in any event, appears to be shunted out wide. Obviously the longer who goes without games and goals the more pressure on him. You can see in the warm-up that he is a penalty box player and is not going to contribute hugely to build-up play.

I think there is a good striker there (proven with Swindon which is certainly not miles below our league other than Rangers and Celtic) but he seems to have been poorly managed. His manager should be trying to get his confidence up by making the focal point of the team in our home games to get in the goals. That’s clearly not happened and he’s pretty much been thrown to the wolves in our most difficult games away from home when we struggle to get the ball forward. That’s poor management for me and it makes you wonder if he was a signing LJ wanted. That’s not the lad’s fault and, in his limited appearances, there is no lack of effort but you can see the frustration.

I’m pretty certain that given a run of games playing centrally in a team with Magennis in the midfield (which improves us), we’d start to see his attributes come out. If he’s not given that chance then it has been a real waste of money and not exactly fair on the player. It just shows the lack of alignment between recruitment and coach.

I disagree. I'd say League two in England was miles below our league and we would win it pretty comfortably if we were in it. Hypothetical i know.

[hibee-boys]

I think Hibs signed McKirdy off the back of a rumour we were after him and the reaction of Hibs fans on social media saying he’d be a good signing

There was a clamour for his signature on here as well🙈😂 Hopefully the new DOF stays away from .net!

[madabouthibs]

When he has played we have never created anything for him. I'd like to see him get a few decent goalscoring opportunities before judging him. From Swindon footage he looks good at finishing and one on ones.
This for me, we need to give him a decent run, the lad needs some decent service and a few chances to score, something I dont think hes really had yet.
Nisbet score a HT last weekend, all 3 coming from decent service into the box, something Mckirdy hasnt seen yet.

[JimBHibees]

I think Hibs signed McKirdy off the back of a rumour we were after him and the reaction of Hibs fans on social media saying he’d be a good signing

I know people are happy to criticise the recruitment of the club but surely there is a bit more to the process than that. :greengrin

[Since452]

A loan move is probably the best option for him. Ideally at another Premiership club. If that's possible with number of clubs in one season.

[Paulie Walnuts]

A loan move is probably the best option for him. Ideally at another Premiership club. If that's possible with number of clubs in one season.

Don’t think it is. Would have to be back to Swindon.

[eastmainsmsh]

Don’t think it is. Would have to be back to Swindon.

Wouldn't be surprised if this happens

[HoboHarry]

I think Hibs signed McKirdy off the back of a rumour we were after him and the reaction of Hibs fans on social media saying he’d be a good signing
You think a successful businessman only authorized the signing because Hibs.net approved? Seriously?:faf:

[PHeffernan]

Yes but a more realistic one.

I wouldn't say that.
No way are they giving their top scorer and Div 2 team of the year striker away for your £100k guess.
Less than £200k is fantasy.

[PHeffernan]

You think a successful businessman only authorized the signing because Hibs.net approved? Seriously?:faf:

Aye bizarre what some supporters think goes down.

[theonlywayisup]

Agree with this 100%, McKirdy not done a single thing that has made me think oh he’s a player, whereas Youhan showed early on when he laid on the equaliser in the derby for Boyle that he had something about him, McKirdy just runs about a lot.

Interesting! When I watched the good teams at the World Cup, I was impressed by the movement of the players without the ball. The forward and wide players were running about a lot into space, giving the midfielders options. When I watch Hibs, I often note the lack of players running into space.

Maybe McKirdy just needs better quality midfielders who can play the pass to him when he runs about a lot :dunno:

[Is It On....]

You think a successful businessman only authorized the signing because Hibs.net approved? Seriously?:faf:

Indeed. He did it because the wine salesman supported it !!

[Springbank]

Interesting! When I watched the good teams at the World Cup, I was impressed by the movement of the players without the ball. The forward and wide players were running about a lot into space, giving the midfielders options. When I watch Hibs, I often note the lack of players running into space.

Maybe McKirdy just needs better quality midfielders who can play the pass to him when he runs about a lot :dunno:

Martin Boyle & Kevin Nisbet both scored within 16 minutes of their comebacks playing with those midfielders

But they're good players

McKirdy really isn't

[Keith_M]

This for me, we need to give him a decent run, the lad needs some decent service and a few chances to score, something I dont think hes really had yet.
Nisbet score a HT last weekend, all 3 coming from decent service into the box, something Mckirdy hasnt seen yet.


I've seen McKirdy miss two chances directly in front of goal with only the keeper to beat. The first one he skied it over the bar and the second he hit it straight at the keeper.

Not sure you can put those down to a lack of service or game-time.

[Dumfrieshibs]

Im sure Swindon manager has just moved to Crawley..... maybe a new start for Harry if his old manager rates him

[Still Smiling]

I've seen McKirdy miss two chances directly in front of goal with only the keeper to beat. The first one he skied it over the bar and the second he hit it straight at the keeper.

Not sure you can put those down to a lack of service or game-time.
Nisbet missed a header in front of goal against Celtic and wide shot against Hearts. McKirdy deserves more time imo.

[J-C]

Im sure Swindon manager has just moved to Crawley..... maybe a new start for Harry if his old manager rates him


Can't play for another club this season, only 2 allowed, us and Swindon.

[sleeping giant]

I think Hibs signed McKirdy off the back of a rumour we were after him and the reaction of Hibs fans on social media saying he’d be a good signing

🤣

[HoboHarry]

I've seen McKirdy miss two chances directly in front of goal with only the keeper to beat. The first one he skied it over the bar and the second he hit it straight at the keeper.

Not sure you can put those down to a lack of service or game-time.
None of these huddies will make the grade either

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtDamyTlVzA

[Paulie Walnuts]

Nisbet missed a header in front of goal against Celtic and wide shot against Hearts. McKirdy deserves more time imo.

Aye but nisbet has also scored 5 in 5. You can miss chances when you do that, not so much when you offer next to nothing.

At the risk of repeating myself, where’s the more time coming from? It pretty much has to mean removing one of our best players, all of whom are in semi decent form, to give him a go.

[Dmas]

Aye but nisbet has also scored 5 in 5. You can miss chances when you do that, not so much when you offer next to nothing.

At the risk of repeating myself, where’s the more time coming from? It pretty much has to mean removing one of our best players, all of whom are in semi decent form, to give him a go.

He’s not managed to get game time with Boyle Nisbet and mcgeady all out he’s absolutely no chance with 2/3 fit again IMO Johnson was picking youan ahead of him before he found a bit of form as well, I don’t think he’s done enough, I beleive LJ must have wanted him here I just think the guys failed to take the step up

[GreenArmy1875]

Maybe he has but think 6 months is far to quickly for either side to want to get rid. Let him settle get fully fit ans see what we have. If he ain't good enough this time next year then we can let him go. We have to stop writing players off before they even get a chance

[Gaffer1875]

I genuinely don’t know how McKirdy has made it as a professional footballer. Frightening.

We need to cut our losses, likely in the summer and move on.


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[scottish_sleepy]

Every game McKirdys started he's been having to either drop back deep to try to get the ball or chasing it between the other teams centre half's because there's either nobody on our team capable of playing a decent ball through. Put him up front with Nisbet and McGeady and he'll score goals. Don't forget there's a high chance Nisbet will be away in the summer so dumping him now is crazy. I can think of many players in the current squad including so called established players I'd get shot of before him.

[JohnM1875]

Genuine question and not a dig at McKirdy, but who is the last player we signed from League 2 that’s gone on to be a real standout for us?

I’m guessing there’s a few but none spring to mind really.

[CapitalGreen]

Genuine question and not a dig at McKirdy, but who is the last player we signed from League 2 that’s gone on to be a real standout for us?

I’m guessing there’s a few but none spring to mind really.

Rob Jones did ok

[MWHIBBIES]

I genuinely don’t know how McKirdy has made it as a professional footballer. Frightening.

We need to cut our losses, likely in the summer and move on.


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By being good enough to be a professional? Boy scored 20+ goals in league 2 last season. What a daft thing to say.

[JohnM1875]

Rob Jones did ok

Great shout 👍

[BILLYHIBS]

Genuine question and not a dig at McKirdy, but who is the last player we signed from League 2 that’s gone on to be a real standout for us?

I’m guessing there’s a few but none spring to mind really.

SDG lol

[HoboHarry]

I genuinely don’t know how McKirdy has made it as a professional footballer. Frightening.

We need to cut our losses, likely in the summer and move on.


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It's hard to know where to begin with a post as silly as that.

[Hibs4185]

He’s a bit of a radge, meant to be a good finisher, poacher and floats in and out of games…..I’d rather have Jason Cummings

[JohnM1875]

SDG lol

Another great shout! Haha

[DH1875]

Nisbet missed a header in front of goal against Celtic and wide shot against Hearts. McKirdy deserves more time imo.

I'd rather give, or see for that matter Melkerson given a chance through the middle if anyone was getting a run of 10 games.

[Gaffer1875]

It's hard to know where to begin with a post as silly as that.

I’ve seen nothing to convince me that he is capable of playing football at a professional level. It’s my viewpoint, clearly not yours.


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[007]

Genuine question and not a dig at McKirdy, but who is the last player we signed from League 2 that’s gone on to be a real standout for us?

I’m guessing there’s a few but none spring to mind really.

As BILLYHIBS said - David Gray.

Did he do anything to standout for you?

[Since452]

You think a successful businessman only authorized the signing because Hibs.net approved? Seriously?:faf:

Sounds bizarre but wouldn't surprise me. He listened to the loud minority and punted Jack Ross and replaced him with a Cathroesqe rookie. I'm not sure he has a clue about football to be honest.

[007]

Martin Boyle & Kevin Nisbet both scored within 16 minutes of their comebacks playing with those midfielders

But they're good players

McKirdy really isn't

Boyle that took how many years with us to become the player he is? If it had been up to you we'd never have stuck with him and he'd have been punted ages ago.

If anything, Boyle is an example of why we should give McKirdy time before deciding one way or the other.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Sounds bizarre but wouldn't surprise me. He listened to the loud minority and punted Jack Ross and replaced him with a Cathroesqe rookie. I'm not sure he has a clue about football to be honest.

Is that why he sacked JR? Because people were singing a song? Has that been confirmed anywhere?

[hibsbollah]

I genuinely don’t know how McKirdy has made it as a professional footballer. Frightening.

We need to cut our losses, likely in the summer and move on.


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Again, repeating the point but 90%+ of the posters were at that point about Rocky at this point last season. At some point we have to realise that some players are projects and might take a bit of time (or might be almost there anyway, in Rockys case), I’m not going to bump my gums because we’re paying them a salary in the meantime.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Boyle that took how many years with us to become the player he is? If it had been up to you we'd never have stuck with him and he'd have been punted ages ago.

If anything, Boyle is an example of why we should give McKirdy time before deciding one way or the other.

Boyle offered a lot more in his first half a season than McKirdy has.

[flash]

With him only being able to play for Swindon this season I wonder if he might end up back there.

[Paulie Walnuts]

With him only being able to play for Swindon this season I wonder if he might end up back there.

I think there’s half a chance he will. I wouldn’t even be surprised if he’s pushing for it a bit.

[hibby rae]

As BILLYHIBS said - David Gray.

Did he do anything to standout for you?

The caveat with Gray is though he had a lot of experience in leagues higher than L2, and it was also over 8 and a half years ago. Which gives the impression successes at our level from that level are the exception rather than the rule.

[MrRobot]

Genuine question and not a dig at McKirdy, but who is the last player we signed from League 2 that’s gone on to be a real standout for us?

I’m guessing there’s a few but none spring to mind really.

Christian Doidge?

Remember how long it took him to settle and then the run of form that he went on? Scored a fair amount of goals in a short space of time in the season that got written off. Was never the same after that horrific injury though.

[MrRobot]

I genuinely don’t know how McKirdy has made it as a professional footballer. Frightening.

We need to cut our losses, likely in the summer and move on.


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Ridiculous post. You’ve reached that conclusion after the equivalent of just 3 and a half games worth a football :dunno:

[Bridge hibs]

I’ve seen nothing to convince me that he is capable of playing football at a professional level. It’s my viewpoint, clearly not yours.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkEven though he has been playing at a professional level for a few years ?

[jacomo]

Is that why he sacked JR? Because people were singing a song? Has that been confirmed anywhere?


Ron said it was specifically your moaning that persuaded him to sack Jack.

[Alfred E Newman]

Ridiculous post. You’ve reached that conclusion after the equivalent of just 3 and a half games worth a football :dunno:

If I turned out for Hibs you would know within 3 and a half minutes that I wasn't good enough.

[Hibbyradge]

Ridiculous post. You’ve reached that conclusion after the equivalent of just 3 and a half games worth a football :dunno:

How many games or how many minutes would a trialist get before a conclusion was reached? :dunno:

I understand the argument that he might come good at some point in the future, but if a conclusion was to be made now, there's only one that could be reached.

I didn't understand the grief that Rocky got on here and I remember being criticised for saying that I liked him early on, so I don't think he's a good example of a player who defied the predictions.

Josh Campbell, however, may be a point in case. He had few supporters but has come on massively recently so maybe there's hope for McKirdy yet.

[basehibby]

How many games or how many minutes would a trialist get before a conclusion was reached? :dunno:

I understand the argument that he might come good at some point in the future, but if a conclusion was to be made now, there's only one that could be reached.

I didn't understand the grief that Rocky got on here and I remember being criticised for saying that I liked him early on, so I don't think he's a good example of a player who defied the predictions.

Josh Campbell, however, may be a point in case. He had few supporters but has come on massively recently so maybe there's hope for McKirdy yet.

James Scott took the whole of last season to get going. I'm very much hoping that McKirdy will find his feet a lot quicker than that, but it's a demonstration of how players can take a while to settle.

[MrRobot]

How many games or how many minutes would a trialist get before a conclusion was reached? :dunno:

I understand the argument that he might come good at some point in the future, but if a conclusion was to be made now, there's only one that could be reached.

I didn't understand the grief that Rocky got on here and I remember being criticised for saying that I liked him early on, so I don't think he's a good example of a player who defied the predictions.

Josh Campbell, however, may be a point in case. He had few supporters but has come on massively recently so maybe there's hope for McKirdy yet.

Usually the conclusion of a trialist is whether they are good enough for the club or not, not that they shouldn’t be a professional footballer.

I think 3.5 games worth deciding if he is good enough for Hibs or not is too little but i could accept that point but to question how he is a professional footballer after that time is pretty ridiculous IMO.

[easty]

James Scott took the whole of last season to get going. I'm very much hoping that McKirdy will find his feet a lot quicker than that, but it's a demonstration of how players can take a while to settle.

Did James Scott get going?

[HoboHarry]

Did James Scott get going?
Finished the season well IIRC. Scored a hat trick did he not?

[Nakedmanoncrack]

Did James Scott get going?

No.
He signed off with a hatrick
once the season was over though. Maybe we should be patient and McKirdy can do the same.

[MWHIBBIES]

Finished the season well IIRC. Scored a hat trick did he not?

Contender for a worst Hibs 11 without doubt.

[scotiaf]

Think there is a player there, was his 2 starts not against the old firm ? Which is not a game you will get much of a chance

[cameronw-hfc]

This thread is a depressing read. Some comments are ridiculous. Folk are desperate to write off players at Hibs, give him time, he's signed a permanent contract, not a loan so we've got time to see him adapt.

[JohnM1875]

Think there is a player there, was his 2 starts not against the old firm ? Which is not a game you will get much of a chance

Surely if he’s the player to progress us as a club and move us forward these are exactly the games he should be making an impact in? Celtic and Hearts.

[GreenGray]

Contender for a worst Hibs 11 without doubt.

No chance. He wasn’t great but wasn’t that bad.


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[MWHIBBIES]

No chance. He wasn’t great but wasn’t that bad.


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He was absolutely horrendous. Didn't beat a man 8 months never mind score.

[Onion]

Surely if he’s the player to progress us as a club and move us forward these are exactly the games he should be making an impact in? Celtic and Hearts.

Seriously, you can see why Hibs have become a haven for mediocre footballers. Agents must have us in the "Soft Touch" column :greengrin

[HoboHarry]

Contender for a worst Hibs 11 without doubt.
Aye right.

[BoomtownHibees]

Folk are desperate to write off players at Hibs

How was it you described Will Fish on Twitter? “A pathetic excuse for a footballer” if I remember rightly.

People in glass houses an all that

[Just_Jimmy]

People say give him time, but I can't remember Hibs signing a player in the last 20 years or so who has looked dross from the start, who then goes on to turn it around and become brilliant.

Players come with dubious credentials etc but then rise to it. Players don't excite fans but once they sign they look good or at least go on to be solid. However, I can't remember someone who's signed and started poorly, who then goes on to become a top player at Hibs.

McKirdy has the feel of Clayton Donaldson about him. Hyped up, zero impact.

I don't blame the lad really, it's been done to death that our recruitment strategy is non existent.

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[oneone73]

People say give him time, but I can't remember Hibs signing a player in the last 20 years or so who has looked dross from the start, who then goes on to turn it around and become brilliant.


Ivan Sproule

[MrRobot]

How was it you described Will Fish on Twitter? “A pathetic excuse for a footballer” if I remember rightly.

People in glass houses an all that

I didn’t realise Fish was only 19. Makes the slaughtering he took after the Hearts game even worse. It was a bad mistake but at 19 and not much experience, he is going to make them.

The posts saying he was never a footballer were so over the top.

[bigwheel]

People say give him time, but I can't remember Hibs signing a player in the last 20 years or so who has looked dross from the start, who then goes on to turn it around and become brilliant.

Players come with dubious credentials etc but then rise to it. Players don't excite fans but once they sign they look good or at least go on to be solid. However, I can't remember someone who's signed and started poorly, who then goes on to become a top player at Hibs.

McKirdy has the feel of Clayton Donaldson about him. Hyped up, zero impact.

I don't blame the lad really, it's been done to death that our recruitment strategy is non existent.

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Donaldson scored goals in his few appearances. And went on to have a decent career …can’t see McKirdy getting anywhere near those levels tbh ..

[Just_Jimmy]

Ivan SprouleI don't think he came with any expectation at 5k. It was also 2005. So it's the bottom end of the 20 year window I set.

I'll have it as one example. Boyle is probably the next example but following that, there isn't many. History would suggest that a poor start leads to a poor hibs career.

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[snedzuk]

People say give him time, but I can't remember Hibs signing a player in the last 20 years or so who has looked dross from the start, who then goes on to turn it around and become brilliant.

Players come with dubious credentials etc but then rise to it. Players don't excite fans but once they sign they look good or at least go on to be solid. However, I can't remember someone who's signed and started poorly, who then goes on to become a top player at Hibs.

McKirdy has the feel of Clayton Donaldson about him. Hyped up, zero impact.

I don't blame the lad really, it's been done to death that our recruitment strategy is non existent.

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Martin Boyle, Rocky Bushiri

[snedzuk]

Surely if he’s the player to progress us as a club and move us forward these are exactly the games he should be making an impact in? Celtic and Hearts.

If this is the barometer best pick a whole new starting 11

[blackpoolhibs]

I know people are happy to criticise the recruitment of the club but surely there is a bit more to the process than that. :greengrin

Quick, start a rumour Mbappe is on our radar.:greengrin

[basehibby]

He was absolutely horrendous. Didn't beat a man 8 months never mind score.

He actually looked pretty decent last few games of the season - which was much too late of course.

Hence my comment re McKirdy - ie I hope he gets into his groove a lot quicker than Scott did.

[scotiaf]

Surely if he’s the player to progress us as a club and move us forward these are exactly the games he should be making an impact in? Celtic and Hearts.

Hearts fair enough, Celtic no unless your a target it, hold up player which he is not. I don’t see him in training, however if you bring a player in for money then you would expect him to get a bigger shot at earning his place at Hibs IMHO.

[Eyrie]

Hearts fair enough, Celtic no unless your a target it, hold up player which he is not. I don’t see him in training, however if you bring a player in for money then you would expect him to get a bigger shot at earning his place at Hibs IMHO.

Which is a good reason for concern in itself.

Despite claims that the return of Boyle wrecked our budget, we still pursued McKirdy right up to the transfer deadline and paid a decent (by our standards) fee to get him. So there must be a reason why he hasn't played more often.

[Northernhibee]

Which is a good reason for concern in itself.

Despite claims that the return of Boyle wrecked our budget, we still pursued McKirdy right up to the transfer deadline and paid a decent (by our standards) fee to get him. So there must be a reason why he hasn't played more often.
We’ve been overhyping signings for some time though. Melkersen, Kenneh, Tavares, Mueller, Jasper, Miller, Henderson, and many more. Usually with the “interest from other clubs from all over” line attached to them.

It’s really tiring as I don’t know if I’m alone but I don’t buy it. It all has the feeling of a team who are a bit green behind the ears not fully understanding what they’re getting and getting a little bit giddy about it.

Mueller and Melkersen are the two biggest examples of it. Pitched as some major coup for us to get these players, huge fanfare, Mueller being introduced at HT on the pitch, Melkersen modelling the away jersey this season in the adverts, and when it comes to their impact on the pitch it’s been minimal at best. Little to do with the players, their application and effort has been fine.

They should just never have been brought to the club in the first place, let alone presented as some sort of coup.

It’s ironic that Rocky got such a lukewarm post on the website for his signing, as he’s been by far our more exciting signing in the last few windows.

[Hibbyradge]

Usually the conclusion of a trialist is whether they are good enough for the club or not, not that they shouldn’t be a professional footballer.

I think 3.5 games worth deciding if he is good enough for Hibs or not is too little but i could accept that point but to question how he is a professional footballer after that time is pretty ridiculous IMO.

I concur.

[basehibby]

One of the bright spots of a disjointed performance today was McKirdy IMO. Best 30 mins I've seen from him so far.

[LaMotta]

One of the bright spots of a disjointed performance today was McKirdy IMO. Best 30 mins I've seen from him so far.

:agree:

Unbelievable effort off the cross bar. So unlucky. Think he has something and worth persisting with.

[King conrad]

We’ve been overhyping signings for some time though. Melkersen, Kenneh, Tavares, Mueller, Jasper, Miller, Henderson, and many more. Usually with the “interest from other clubs from all over” line attached to them.

It’s really tiring as I don’t know if I’m alone but I don’t buy it. It all has the feeling of a team who are a bit green behind the ears not fully understanding what they’re getting and getting a little bit giddy about it.

Mueller and Melkersen are the two biggest examples of it. Pitched as some major coup for us to get these players, huge fanfare, Mueller being introduced at HT on the pitch, Melkersen modelling the away jersey this season in the adverts, and when it comes to their impact on the pitch it’s been minimal at best. Little to do with the players, their application and effort has been fine.

They should just never have been brought to the club in the first place, let alone presented as some sort of coup.

It’s ironic that Rocky got such a lukewarm post on the website for his signing, as he’s been by far our more exciting signing in the last few windows.



Totally agree with the overhyping, We seem to have done it with most signings the last 18 month.
We also do it with our youth players giving them hype when they should be left alone to develop.

[Smartie]

One of the bright spots of a disjointed performance today was McKirdy IMO. Best 30 mins I've seen from him so far.

His body language was that of someone who properly gave a f***, was deeply unhappy with the state we were in and was prepared to knock his pan in to drag us upwards out of a shoddy performance.

I like him.

[Nakedmanoncrack]

:agree:

Unbelievable effort off the cross bar. So unlucky. Think he has something and worth persisting with.

Probably as well it didn't go in, as would have been even more disappointing when disallowed - was a fine effort though.

[Hibby Bairn]

Very much deserves a run of starts.

[LunasBoots]

Takes time to adjust, was one who looked like he was trying, just need to give him time.

[Hector Mudflap]

Takes time to adjust, was one who looked like he was trying, just need to give him time.


100%
:top marks

[CL0762]

Thought he looked impressive, never stopped moving or wanting the ball either.

I feel he’ll be like Doidge was in the beginning, needs a goal to go in off his arse or something then he’ll go on a run of goals.

[tamig]

His body language was that of someone who properly gave a f***, was deeply unhappy with the state we were in and was prepared to knock his pan in to drag us upwards out of a shoddy performance.

I like him.

Exactly. Yet we have another poster on the ridiculous Johnson Out thread having a go at him because he was seemingly grinning when we were 2-1 down. Sad stuff 🙄

[LaMotta]

Probably as well it didn't go in, as would have been even more disappointing when disallowed - was a fine effort though.

I thought the offside was for whoever challenged the rebound? His shot would have counted?

[sleeping giant]

His body language was that of someone who properly gave a f***, was deeply unhappy with the state we were in and was prepared to knock his pan in to drag us upwards out of a shoddy performance.

I like him.

Agreed

[Jones28]

Glad to read some positives, well done Harry and hopefully he can kick on.

[Glory Lurker]

Best we've seen of him. Hope he keeps that coming.

[cameronw-hfc]

I thought the offside was for whoever challenged the rebound? His shot would have counted?

Offside in the build up would still have been deemed offside as it's the same phase of play(or something like that not sure anyone's knows the rules 100% now)

[LaMotta]

Offside in the build up would still have been deemed offside as it's the same phase of play(or something like that not sure anyone's knows the rules 100% now)

Yeah but thats what I mean, didn't think it was offside in the build up, thought the offside was given after it hit the bar for player challenging the rebound? I probably need to watch it again.

[h1bs4life]

I thought the offside was for whoever challenged the rebound? His shot would have counted?

Youan was in an offside position when he came back to get the ball to put in the cross
Goal would have been chalked off

[1875Sean]

Yeah but thats what I mean, didn't think it was offside in the build up, thought the offside was given after it hit the bar for player challenging the rebound? I probably need to watch it again.

The offside was for the pass into Youan before the shot so it wouldn’t have counted

[Kaiser_Sauzee]

His body language was that of someone who properly gave a f***, was deeply unhappy with the state we were in and was prepared to knock his pan in to drag us upwards out of a shoddy performance.

I like him.

Needs a goal then I think we’ll see him kick on.

[Since452]

Was absolutely amazed he got on the pitch. Much better from him today though. If I can crucify him then need to give him credit when he improves and he was an improvement today. Hopefully kicks on and I'll happily eat my words.

[BlackSheep]

The offside was for the pass into Youan before the shot so it wouldn’t have counted

The linesman didn’t flag for this and the ref let an awful lot of time to pass before pulling it back… so who made the decision? VAR doesn’t get involved with offsides so where did that decision come from? Some shocking officiating today all round.

[1875Sean]

The linesman didn’t flag for this and the ref let an awful lot of time to pass before pulling it back… so who made the decision? VAR doesn’t get involved with offsides so where did that decision come from? Some shocking officiating today all round.

It was offside I seen it on tv, the lineman don’t flag right away now but they flagged after

[eastterrace]

The linesman was going to put the flag up but changed his mind ( he put it half up) and he was offside.

[WeeRussell]

The linesman didn’t flag for this and the ref let an awful lot of time to pass before pulling it back… so who made the decision? VAR doesn’t get involved with offsides so where did that decision come from? Some shocking officiating today all round.

I think the linesman put his flag up after waiting to see that the ball didn’t end up in the net as a result of the move, which (pish as it might be) they are told to do.

Officiating wasn’t good today but I didn’t get the problem with this one, looked offside at the time too.

The 4 moaning gentlemen in front of me didn’t seem to understand the rule… or an awful lot else to do with football for 90 mins 😂

[Biggie]

Was that the ball into the box that the hibs lad could have tried heading the ball....although, if he had of, the keeper would have clattered him big time.
Only when the goalie got the ball, did the flag go up !
That's crazy...flag up right away to avoid potential injuries....cos if the striker headers the ball, he'd have been wiped out.

[Mikey_1875]

Outside of his shot I still didn’t see much from him today unfortunately. Gave the incompetent ref a hard time for only adding 3 minutes at full time though which was fair play.

[cameronw-hfc]

Outside of his shot I still didn’t see much from him today unfortunately. Gave the incompetent ref a hard time for only adding 3 minutes at full time though which was fair play.

Lovely wee flick over the defenders head in front of the East as well, tbf we barely got him involved. Most of the time it was getting hoofed up the park when he was on and that's no use to him at all. The few times he got it into feet he looked like he was trying to create something.

Also noticed he made a few cracking runs that didn't get picked out by anyone.

[Cat Stanton]

Don't think he's great. But at least he looks he cares and wants to try. Which is more than can be said for a few of the other players.

[Carheenlea]

Thought he looked pretty bright and lively today. There’s a player there alright, but it just doesn’t feel like long term that’s going to be at Hibs. He’s more nuisance value to a defence rather than outright dangerous.

His role will continue to be bit-part should he remain here for now.

[1875Sean]

Outside of his shot I still didn’t see much from him today unfortunately. Gave the incompetent ref a hard time for only adding 3 minutes at full time though which was fair play.

Agree, a lot of people seem to think he deserves a run in the team and I can’t see it, when the ball is up in the air it looks like he can’t judge it

[Onceinawhile]

Has the impostor even had a shot on target yet?

[MWHIBBIES]

Has the impostor even had a shot on target yet?

What a pathetic post.

[cameronw-hfc]

Has the impostor even had a shot on target yet?

Jesus. Disgraceful post.

[Onceinawhile]

Jesus. Disgraceful post.

Been with the club since August and has shown us zero.

Genuinely. Has he had a shot on target for us?

[Dunbar Hibee]

Thought he played decent when he came on and looked lively. Very unlucky with his effort that hit the bar too.

[HFC93]

Played OK when he came on. The guy desperately needs a goal.

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[cameronw-hfc]

Been with the club since August and has shown us zero.

Genuinely. Has he had a shot on target for us?

Genuinley, have you no shame? Not remember the abuse at the start of the season that had Rocky asking if the fans hate him? Keep the insults to yourself 👍, critique aye, but you're post was a joke, and aye, he had a few shots saved vs Killie away, so you're even wrong there.


He's also one of the few that consistently makes runs in behind, just a shame nobody tries to find him with the passes.

[LaMotta]

Been with the club since August and has shown us zero.

Genuinely. Has he had a shot on target for us?

Yes he has, more than one actually.

[tamig]

Been with the club since August and has shown us zero.

Genuinely. Has he had a shot on target for us?

The jokers are out in force tonight 🙄

[Winston Ingram]

One of the bright spots of a disjointed performance today was McKirdy IMO. Best 30 mins I've seen from him so far.

It baffles me when I see people piling into him. He’s barely kicked a ball for us.

[One Day]

Played OK when he came on. The guy desperately needs a goal.

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Sunday would be a good time for a hatrick

[Logie]

Thought he looked better in his actual position funny that.. made good runs but the pass never really came, unlucky not to score although think Youan was offside anyway. Goal against them could really kick start his hibs career, doubt he starts though.

[cameronw-hfc]

It baffles me when I see people piling into him. He’s barely kicked a ball for us.

Folk desperate for him to fail because he's dared to have a tad of personality. Too many up here just want robots.

[basehibby]

Has the impostor even had a shot on target yet?

Pathetic unwarranted and unnecessary. Contender for sheightest post of the year and it's only January.

[Waxy]

Needs to play how he’s best deployed like every player.

[Ronniekirk]

Now Merkleson is away on loan think Mckirdy will stay sat least till end of the season

[Lago]

Now Merkleson is away on loan think Mckirdy will stay sat least till end of the season
He'll have to could be our only striker shortly 🤔

[basehibby]

He'll have to could be our only striker shortly 🤔

Eh? WTF?!? Nissy is going nowhere? Why the rush to sell him???

[LunasBoots]

He'll have to could be our only striker shortly 🤔

LJ said a week back we where looking at bringing one in, in Lee we trust.

[MWHIBBIES]

Eh? WTF?!? Nissy is going nowhere? Why the rush to sell him???

Hibs.net LOVES selling our best players.

[Haymaker]

LJ said a week back we where looking at bringing one in, in Lee we trust.

There's a Scottish International free agent we could get in right away. Experienced in this league, European competition and international.

[CL0762]

Folk desperate for him to fail because he's dared to have a tad of personality. Too many up here just want robots.

The absolute best shout is ‘get a proper haircut’.

What is a proper haircut? And how would such haircut allow him to perform better in the limited game time he’s had so far?

[Smartie]

I just have a hunch that this guy has something about him and we might regret being impatient.

He’s already had a few lively sub appearances and his starts have been in dire team performances in some of our hardest games.

Get him a few starts on the right of a front 3 and I think he gets us goals.

[cameronw-hfc]

I just have a hunch that this guy has something about him and we might regret being impatient.

He’s already had a few lively sub appearances and his starts have been in dire team performances in some of our hardest games.

Get him a few starts on the right of a front 3 and I think he gets us goals.

Watch it, context apparently doesnt matter here. A good chunk have already deemed him either not good enough or a waste of money.

[MrRobot]

Watch it, context apparently doesnt matter here. A good chunk have already deemed him either not good enough or a waste of money.

A waste of money based on a fee they make up in their head too :greengrin

[Spike Mandela]

A cup derby game would be the time to announce your arrival on the first team stage with a goal or two.

[Eyrie]

We have a team that is playing poorly, an under pressure manager and a player who Hibs pursued right up to the transfer deadline (despite having spent a chunk of our budget on the unexpected but welcome return of Boyle).

I think it's fair to ask why that player isn't starting regularly for us.

[cameronw-hfc]

A cup derby game would be the time to announce your arrival on the first team stage with a goal or two.

Hell probably get chucked in from the start, pulled off at halftime again then not given another chance until the next time we play celtic.

[LunasBoots]

Hell probably get chucked in from the start, pulled off at halftime again then not given another chance until the next time we play celtic.

Johnson will probably still be trying to figure a formation without Newell 20 mins into the game....

[Smartie]

We have a team that is playing poorly, an under pressure manager and a player who Hibs pursued right up to the transfer deadline (despite having spent a chunk of our budget on the unexpected but welcome return of Boyle).

I think it's fair to ask why that player isn't starting regularly for us.

Is it likely to be anything more concerning than he has failed to make a stronger case to be starting than Nisbet, Myko, Youan, Boyle or McGeady, all of whom have put forward pretty robust cases to be first picks ahead of him thus far?