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Paulie Walnuts
25-04-2022, 07:07 PM
Done more than Keane hasn’t he? - generally keeps himself in a job? Doesn’t do Sky Sports though on the downside.
You won’t find an argument from me on that front. I don’t see the appeal of either of them.
04Sauzee
25-04-2022, 07:10 PM
Done more than Keane hasn’t he? - generally keeps himself in a job? Doesn’t do Sky Sports though on the downside.
Looks like Keane had a better win rate at Ipswich than Lambert and Keane was a disaster at Ipswich by all accounts?
Since90+2
25-04-2022, 07:14 PM
Looks like Keane had a better win rate at Ipswich than Lambert and Keane was a disaster at Ipswich by all accounts?
Them pesky facts again.
LaMotta
25-04-2022, 07:18 PM
Looks like Keane had a better win rate at Ipswich than Lambert and Keane was a disaster at Ipswich by all accounts?
Them pesky facts again.
Lambert had one of his teams lose 7-0 once ( I seen it with my own eyes) - apparently that's him ruled out therefore.....
Paulie Walnuts
25-04-2022, 07:20 PM
Looks like Keane had a better win rate at Ipswich than Lambert and Keane was a disaster at Ipswich by all accounts?
Lambert actually took Ipswich down to League One as well so he managed the majority of his games in League One rather than the Championship.
With that in mind his record is truly dreadful.
superfurryhibby
25-04-2022, 07:21 PM
Reading through this thread.....talk about going down a rabbit hole and ever decreasing circles :thumbsup:
I don’t have strong feelings about favouring Keane. However, I’d take someone with his standing and stature in football over another jumped up pipsqueak or cardigan wearing bore. If he wants back into management just maybe he’s coming into a bit wiser and a bit more equipped.
That said, the kind of budget at Hibs is a long way from what he’s worked with before and the expectations and pressures for him in the goldfish bowl of Scottish football would not be insignificant. Gordon would need to be selling him the job and offering commitment to funding the Keane masterplan. An experienced guy like Keane will not be getting fobbed off with selling your star player and then buying a bunch of raw laddies.
Got to agree with a couple of posters who mentioned that.net is hardly reflective of the wider Hibs support.
Paulie Walnuts
25-04-2022, 07:23 PM
Reading through this thread.....talk about going down a rabbit hole and ever decreasing circles :thumbsup:
I don’t have strong feelings about favouring Keane. However, I’d take someone with his standing and stature in football over another jumped up pipsqueak or cardigan wearing bore. If he wants back into management just maybe he’s coming into a bit wiser and a bit more equipped.
That said, the kind of budget at Hibs is a long way from what he’s worked with before and the expectations and pressures for him in the goldfish bowl of Scottish football would not be insignificant. Gordon would need to be selling him the job and offering commitment to funding the Keane masterplan. An experienced guy like Keane will not be getting fobbed off with selling your star player and then buying a bunch of raw laddies.
Got to agree with a couple of posters who mentioned that.net is hardly reflective of the wider Hibs support.
That’s the main positive I’m seeing in Keane is that it’ll mean significant investment in the squad you’d have to think. Something which is desperately needed.
bigwheel
25-04-2022, 07:23 PM
Looks like Keane had a better win rate at Ipswich than Lambert and Keane was a disaster at Ipswich by all accounts?
Lambert took them down to league one and kept them there. Devastatingly bad
Glory Lurker
25-04-2022, 07:31 PM
That’s the main positive I’m seeing in Keane is that it’ll mean significant investment in the squad you’d have to think. Something which is desperately needed.
I'd have thought that if the money is there it will be spent regardless of who the boss is.
Callum_62
25-04-2022, 07:40 PM
I wonder if Keane does come in if he will bring on one of his own coaches
Paul scholes seems highly regarding from the class of 93 stuff I've seen....
What a midfield they'd make too [emoji23]
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Danderhall Hibs
25-04-2022, 07:42 PM
Has Keane managed in the Premier League?
17 pages of a rumour, wow this place gets even better.
bingo70
25-04-2022, 07:43 PM
Has Keane managed in the Premier League?
Yeah, he got Sunderland promoted there (after taking over when they were in a championship relegation position), kept Sunderland up and then left the following season.
04Sauzee
25-04-2022, 07:44 PM
Has Keane managed in the Premier League?
Got them promoted and kept them up.
hibeg
25-04-2022, 07:45 PM
The more I think about it,I hope Hibs go for Roy Keane
Edit. I’m sitting on holiday with a few too many G @ts
I will deny this in the morning 😂
WhileTheChief..
25-04-2022, 07:55 PM
Wonder if Solskjaer would be interested. SDG as assistant?
When he was at Bolde we'd have been delighted with him as our manager. His spell at Man Utd shouldn't write him off.
LancsHibs
25-04-2022, 07:59 PM
Wonder if Solskjaer would be interested. SDG as assistant?
When he was at Bolde we'd have been delighted with him as our manager. His spell at Man Utd shouldn't write him off.
He would be my first choice
Callum_62
25-04-2022, 07:59 PM
Wonder if Solskjaer would be interested. SDG as assistant?
When he was at Bolde we'd have been delighted with him as our manager. His spell at Man Utd shouldn't write him off.OGS is an odd one
Molde are no way a huge club but now he's been at Man U he seems far too big
Where he goes from here, who knows
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Since90+2
25-04-2022, 08:01 PM
Wonder if Solskjaer would be interested. SDG as assistant?
When he was at Bolde we'd have been delighted with him as our manager. His spell at Man Utd shouldn't write him off.
From Manchester United to Hibs? I'd say it's, shall we say, unlikely, Ole will be our next manager.
Callum_62
25-04-2022, 08:01 PM
17 pages of a rumour, wow this place gets even better.I think it's great - why is folk getting into a discussion about a possible new manager a bad thing?
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Since90+2
25-04-2022, 08:03 PM
I think it's great - why is folk getting into a discussion about a possible new manager a bad thing?
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Exactly. It's literally the reason for this site to exist, Hibs fans to discuss all things Hibs.
Heisenberg
25-04-2022, 08:03 PM
I think it's great - why is folk getting into a discussion about a possible new manager a bad thing?
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Exactly, its what this place is for surely.
04Sauzee
25-04-2022, 08:10 PM
Have a feeling it's going to be someone like Lee Johnson, young, loads of experience and had Jamie McAllister as an assistant at Sunderland who will know Scottish football.
I'm sure Hibs tried to sign Johnson years ago?
I know nothing about his style of football btw.
Callum_62
25-04-2022, 08:11 PM
Have a feeling it's going to be someone like Lee Johnson, young, loads of experience and had Jamie McAllister as an assistant at Sunderland who will know Scottish football.
I'm sure Hibs tried to sign Johnson years ago?
I know nothing about his style of football btw.Didn't he play for hearts?
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04Sauzee
25-04-2022, 08:15 PM
Didn't he play for hearts?
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A few times , Jamie McAllister also played for Hearts
Callum_62
25-04-2022, 08:15 PM
A few times , Jamie McAllister also played for HeartsBring in billy broon for the full hoos!
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Unseen work
25-04-2022, 08:17 PM
I don’t want the Hibs board to appoint him purely because of his name, he still needs to be the right man and have a real desire for succeeding and progressing as a manager. They said they want Easter road packed and playing good attacking football, will he provide that?
He’s a risk but every manager is. I think he would either be a brilliant success or quit after a month after missing out on a signing :greengrin
There’s something about him that just makes me think he would love being at Hibs and the fans would love him. I just think the tempo and intensity the team would play at would be brilliant and get the fans behind him and all the players would respect him.
The interview someone posted is a very good listen and I think he’s a lot calmer now and learned a lot from his mistakes and maturing. I actually feel a bit sorry for him at times during it as I think he’s bang on about what he says about certain managers getting jobs because they speak a certain way and sell themselves.
I think he’s true to himself and there needs to be certain standards in place for him as he’ll demand rhe best, rightly so. I think that’s why he’s not taken some jobs he’s been offered. But I think in the SPFL he’d be a huge name and he’d love being loved and wanted here.
Re his tactics etc? This is Roy Keane not some random. He’s got plenty playing experience and as a manager/coach. Stubbs, Mowbray, Maloney, Collins etc etc all had less than him and so do some names being touted now.
Jon Dahl Tomasson is one that sounds exciting but why? Just because he’s foreign? He done well at Molde but is that not a given there?
Unseen work
25-04-2022, 08:18 PM
Have a feeling it's going to be someone like Lee Johnson, young, loads of experience and had Jamie McAllister as an assistant at Sunderland who will know Scottish football.
I'm sure Hibs tried to sign Johnson years ago?
I know nothing about his style of football btw.
Him and Liam Manning are two I can see us looking like and two I’d fully support.
Both young and very good managers.
Danderhall Hibs
25-04-2022, 08:24 PM
Yeah, he got Sunderland promoted there (after taking over when they were in a championship relegation position), kept Sunderland up and then left the following season.
And he’ll shout at the players?
Sold. Get him in.
Clarence
25-04-2022, 08:38 PM
Pedant Alert: I think the word you're looking for is 'pedant', not 'pendant'
Lol. I’ve made a funny of myself there.
WhileTheChief..
25-04-2022, 08:55 PM
From Manchester United to Hibs? I'd say it's, shall we say, unlikely, Ole will be our next manager.
He'd be going from unemployed to Hibs :greengrin
WhileTheChief..
25-04-2022, 08:58 PM
Bring in billy broon for the full hoos!
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Would it be irrational to rule out anyone with any Hearts connection?!
I wouldn't go there at all, uphill battle from day 1.
Pagan Hibernia
25-04-2022, 09:21 PM
From Manchester United to Hibs? I'd say it's, shall we say, unlikely, Ole will be our next manager.
if Ole is waiting for another job the size of Manchester United or even close to it to come around he’s going to be waiting a very long time
he won the lottery getting that after what, winning a couple of trophies in Norway and getting Cardiff relegated?
ahibby
25-04-2022, 09:28 PM
I don’t want the Hibs board to appoint him purely because of his name, he still needs to be the right man and have a real desire for succeeding and progressing as a manager. They said they want Easter road packed and playing good attacking football, will he provide that?
He’s a risk but every manager is. I think he would either be a brilliant success or quit after a month after missing out on a signing :greengrin
There’s something about him that just makes me think he would love being at Hibs and the fans would love him. I just think the tempo and intensity the team would play at would be brilliant and get the fans behind him and all the players would respect him.
The interview someone posted is a very good listen and I think he’s a lot calmer now and learned a lot from his mistakes and maturing. I actually feel a bit sorry for him at times during it as I think he’s bang on about what he says about certain managers getting jobs because they speak a certain way and sell themselves.
I think he’s true to himself and there needs to be certain standards in place for him as he’ll demand rhe best, rightly so. I think that’s why he’s not taken some jobs he’s been offered. But I think in the SPFL he’d be a huge name and he’d love being loved and wanted here.
Re his tactics etc? This is Roy Keane not some random. He’s got plenty playing experience and as a manager/coach. Stubbs, Mowbray, Maloney, Collins etc etc all had less than him and so do some names being touted now.
Jon Dahl Tomasson is one that sounds exciting but why? Just because he’s foreign? He done well at Molde but is that not a given there?
R K was taken aback when he first played At ER, he was impressed by the stadium Irish connection and our midfield. Doesnt make him the right candidate, just saying.
SteveHFC
25-04-2022, 09:49 PM
https://twitter.com/record_sport/status/1518703898567008257?s=21&t=h7MrhWK6Sxsi35yS9elg7Q
Jones28
25-04-2022, 09:52 PM
https://twitter.com/record_sport/status/1518703898567008257?s=21&t=h7MrhWK6Sxsi35yS9elg7Q
**** it might actually happen 😂
WhileTheChief..
25-04-2022, 09:54 PM
^^Someone with international or English premier league experience.
I like it.
04Sauzee
25-04-2022, 09:54 PM
From the Sun
ROY'S KEANE ON HIBS Roy Keane ready to LEAVE Sky for Hibs job as representatives make contact with Easter Road club
Alan Potts
22:34, 25 Apr 2022Updated: 22:34, 25 Apr 2022
Since90+2
25-04-2022, 09:56 PM
if Ole is waiting for another job the size of Manchester United or even close to it to come around he’s going to be waiting a very long time
he won the lottery getting that after what, winning a couple of trophies in Norway and getting Cardiff relegated?
He'll ge offered way way bigger jobs than Hibs. He won't be out next manager.
SteveHFC
25-04-2022, 09:56 PM
**** it might actually happen 😂
The sun reporting Roy is ready to leave Sky as his representatives have made contact with the club.
greenpaper55
25-04-2022, 09:58 PM
Please no !
JamesHFC
25-04-2022, 09:59 PM
https://twitter.com/record_sport/status/1518703898567008257?s=21&t=h7MrhWK6Sxsi35yS9elg7Q
Contrast to Patrick McPartlin at the Evening News who said earlier this evening that Hibs are not yet at a stage of interviewing anyone.
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/next-hibs-manager-roy-keane-latest-as-clubs-longlist-of-candidates-begins-to-take-shape-3668149?fbclid=IwAR1fa6mOdrDbdYjhmaWzGNGgThDWGmYQi biwSYLZfDfnISgnqhmIwzGm6DA
JohnM1875
25-04-2022, 10:10 PM
I honestly have no idea what to make of it.
I just can't imagine what a Roy Keane training session would be like? I know he's played under and worked with fantastic managers and also played for an amazing Man Utd team.
I'm maybe being completely unfair to him there though. But reckon he'd need a brilliant assistant with him, especially after a decade out of management.
Still, would quite like to see it happen.
HendoDelivered
25-04-2022, 10:22 PM
Oh ****
Frazerbob
25-04-2022, 10:29 PM
If it's Keane, I can't wait for Brian McGloughlin's first interview. I suspect he'll not be as much of a smart arse as he was with Ron.
B.H.F.C
25-04-2022, 10:30 PM
Would really like this to happen now. Don’t think it will though.
LaMotta
25-04-2022, 10:31 PM
If Alan Bates at the Sun is in any way reliable then it very much could be a goer....
MelbourneHibees
25-04-2022, 10:33 PM
What's Keane's previous recruitment looked like?
ekhibee
25-04-2022, 10:34 PM
If it's Keane, I can't wait for Brian McGloughlin's first interview. I suspect he'll not be as much of a smart arse as he was with Ron.
This.
LaMotta
25-04-2022, 10:34 PM
Contrast to Patrick McPartlin at the Evening News who said earlier this evening that Hibs are not yet at a stage of interviewing anyone.
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/next-hibs-manager-roy-keane-latest-as-clubs-longlist-of-candidates-begins-to-take-shape-3668149?fbclid=IwAR1fa6mOdrDbdYjhmaWzGNGgThDWGmYQi biwSYLZfDfnISgnqhmIwzGm6DA
Indeed although he updated the article at 8.30 tonight to confirm Keane had made contact with Hibs.
LaMotta
25-04-2022, 10:35 PM
What's Keane's previous recruitment looked like?
Good with Sunderland, got it wrong at Ipswich, by his own admission.
CapitalGreen
25-04-2022, 10:38 PM
What's Keane's previous recruitment looked like?
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/roy-keane/spielertransfers/trainer/3721
Smartie
25-04-2022, 10:40 PM
I’m all over this.
Callum_62
25-04-2022, 10:42 PM
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/8761668/roy-keane-ready-leave-sky-hibs-job-representatives-contact/
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hibby rae
25-04-2022, 10:42 PM
What's Keane's previous recruitment looked like?
https://youtu.be/zzyuE08SjoI
LaMotta
25-04-2022, 10:46 PM
https://youtu.be/zzyuE08SjoI
:top marks
MelbourneHibees
25-04-2022, 10:55 PM
https://youtu.be/zzyuE08SjoI
:greengrin
The Harp Awakes
25-04-2022, 11:00 PM
Roy Keane now even money favourite for the job.
BegbieHSC
25-04-2022, 11:02 PM
I’d be gutted if this doesn’t happen now. Mon Ron - get it over the line!
sunshinejim
25-04-2022, 11:03 PM
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/8761668/roy-keane-ready-leave-sky-hibs-job-representatives-contact/
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Would be proper funny if hearts get smashed by rangers and we end up with Roy Keane as manager who i suspect will be a success for Hibernian. Beautiful.
tamig
25-04-2022, 11:03 PM
Would really like this to happen now. Don’t think it will though.
I don’t get the clamour for Keane. Just why?
Callum_62
25-04-2022, 11:05 PM
I don’t get the clamour for Keane. Just why?I guess because he's a huge name and it's something a bit different and unexpected
Whether it works is another matter
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tamig
25-04-2022, 11:06 PM
I guess because he's a huge name and it's something a bit different and unexpected
Whether it works is another matter
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A huge name. That’s it as far as I’m concerned. I don’t want him anywhere near here.
Callum_62
25-04-2022, 11:09 PM
A huge name. That’s it as far as I’m concerned. I don’t want him anywhere near here.Part of me agrees with you and part of me thinks bugger it, itl be a riot anyway
He could also make a decent go of it - it's hardly like you need to be pep guardiola to do some decent stuff in the spl
Maloney and Ross before him had a shocking run and we were only a few points off 4th
I still can't see it happening anyway
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Stuart93
25-04-2022, 11:13 PM
I wasn’t sure about Keane at first but the more the hype builds the more excited I feel about it for some irrational reason.
Get him in
Sir David Gray
25-04-2022, 11:15 PM
What's Keane's previous recruitment looked like?
Sunderland
Dwight Yorke
Graham Kavanagh
Stanislav Varga
Ross Wallace
Liam Miller
David Connolly
Marton Fulop
Carlos Edwards
Anthony Stokes
Stern John
Greg Halford
Rusell Anderson
Michael Chopra
Kieran Richardson
Dickson Etuhu
Paul McShane
Craig Gordon
Roy O'Donovan
Andrew Cole
Ian Harte
Danny Higginbotham
Kenwyne Jones
Jack Pelter
Jean-Yves Mvoto
Phil Bardsley
Rade Prica
Andy Reid
Teemu Tainio
Nick Colgan
David Meyler
Pascal Chimbonda
El Hadji Diouf
Steed Malbranque
David Healy
Anton Ferdinand
George McCartney
Lewin Nyatanga (loan)
Jonny Evans (loan)
Danny Simpson (loan)
Djibril Cisse (loan)
Ipswich
Troy Brown
Damien Delaney
Lee Martin
Shane O'Connor
Tamas Priskin
Carlos Edwards
Grant Leadbitter
Brian Murphy
Conor Hourihane
Mark Kennedy
Marton Fulop
Jason Scotland
Jack Colback (loan)
Asmir Begovic (loan)
Stern John (loan)
Liam Rosenior (loan)
Daryl Murphy (loan)
David Healy (loan)
Andros Townsend (loan)
Darren O'Dea (loan)
Jake Livermore (loan)
Jack Colback (loan)
Rory Fallon (loan)
Gianni Zuiverloon (loan)
Hibbyradge
25-04-2022, 11:17 PM
Part of me agrees with you and part of me thinks bugger it, itl be a riot anyway
I've read a lot of people saying stuff like that. "Looking forward to the fireworks", "Can't wait till he gives both barrels to Brian McLauglin", and your quote about it being a riot
The thing is, these explosive situations only happen when Roy Keane is being criticised which means, Hibs will have lost.
If we've won, there won't be anyone challenging his decisions, tactics or team selection so he'll be a genial content Irishman.
If he's giving the press a piece of his mind, it's because he's blown it and we won't be in any mood to enjoy his hotheadedness.
sunshinejim
25-04-2022, 11:17 PM
I wasn’t sure about Keane at first but the more the hype builds the more excited I feel about it for some irrational reason.
Get him in
:top marks
Callum_62
25-04-2022, 11:20 PM
I've read a lot of people saying stuff like that. "Looking forward to the fireworks", "Can't wait till he gives both barrels to Brian McLauglin", and your quote about it being a riot
The thing is, these explosive situations only happen when Roy Keane is being criticised which means, Hibs will have lost.
If we've won, there won't be anyone challenging his decisions, tactics or team selection.
If he's giving the press a piece of his mind, we won't be in any mood to enjoy it.
I don't just mean him going off on one
SSN will probably station Luke shanley outside east mains for the duration of Keanes stay here
By having him as manager our presence and status will instantly be massively increased
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B.H.F.C
25-04-2022, 11:22 PM
I don’t get the clamour for Keane. Just why?
I think the positives of having someone like him at the club would outweigh the negatives of him not being a manager for so long.
I think it would bring an instant buzz back, I think it would get folk interested again, I think we’d start shifting season tickets on the back of it.
I just think it would be exciting and I’ve found Hibs anything but for a while now. But I don’t think it’ll happen.
Hibbyradge
25-04-2022, 11:22 PM
I don't just mean him going off on one
SSN will probably station Luke shanley outside east mains for the duration of Keanes stay here
By having him as manager our presence and status will instantly be massively increased
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I doubt that very much. It'll be a story if he signs for a few days and there might be interest for his first game in charge, but it'll be taken for granted quickly.
Callum_62
25-04-2022, 11:25 PM
I doubt that very much. It'll be a story if he signs for a few days and there might be interest for his first game in charge, but it'll be taken for granted quickly.Our media status increased when Neil Lennon was appointed and Keane is another level of football celebrity
I doubt Luke will be needing a tent but I'm sure it would raise our profile significantly
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Hibbyradge
25-04-2022, 11:26 PM
I think the positives of having someone like him at the club would outweigh the negatives of him not being a manager for so long.
I think it would bring an instant buzz back, I think it would get folk interested again, I think we’d start shifting season tickets on the back of it.
I just think it would be exciting and I’ve found Hibs anything but for a while now. But I don’t think it’ll happen.
The excitement will dissipate rapidly if the performances and results are bad.
Do many people buy season tickets because a club recruits a new manager? New player maybe, but I'd be surprised to see any significant upturn in the take up because we've got a TV personality in the manager's seat.
Hibbyradge
25-04-2022, 11:28 PM
Our media status increased when Neil Lennon was appointed and Keane is another level of football celebrity
I doubt Luke will be needing a tent but I'm sure it would raise our profile significantly
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What does media status do for a team's results?
Callum_62
25-04-2022, 11:28 PM
The excitement will dissipate rapidly if the performances and results are bad.
Do many people buy season tickets because a club recruits a new manager? New player maybe, but I'd be surprised to see any significant upturn in the take up because we've got a TV personality in the manager's seat.Given he would be coming in at the tail end of the season hibs have months to live off his hype
A name like that would certainly get more people interested in hibs over the close season
Now, come October 2022 and we haven't won a game......
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Hibbyradge
25-04-2022, 11:30 PM
Given he wouod be coming in at the tail end of the season hibs have month to live of his hype
A name like that would certainly get more people interested in hibs over the close season
Now, come October 2022 and we haven't won a game......
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It's October I'm interested in, not the closed season.
Anyway, what will be, will be.
Time for my kip. Night.
B.H.F.C
25-04-2022, 11:30 PM
The excitement will dissipate rapidly if the performances and results are bad.
Do many people buy season tickets because a club recruits a new manager? New player maybe, but I'd be surprised to see any significant upturn in the take up because we've got a TV personality in the manager's seat.
Just a thought, but maybe he’d win some games and the excitement would continue to build rather than disappear?
And yes, I think people do buy season tickets on the basis of managerial appointments. Celtic instantly added 20k when they appointed Rodgers. And there was huge excitement when Rangers appointed Gerrard (who had never actually been a manager).
Callum_62
25-04-2022, 11:32 PM
What does media status do for a team's results?Your assuming our Results would be a disaster
You don't need to be a world class manager to get OK Results in the spl
Martindale does it, mackay has done it, Tam courts done it
Roy Keane might or might not do it, we won't know that until he gets the job and it's next season
Between him being appointed and the season starting i think the general population of hibs fans would be excited to see how it unfolds and excited for the start of next season
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Carheenlea
25-04-2022, 11:32 PM
The excitement will dissipate rapidly if the performances and results are bad.
Do many people buy season tickets because a club recruits a new manager? New player maybe, but I'd be surprised to see any significant upturn in the take up because we've got a TV personality in the manager's seat.
Roy Keane would boost ST sales quite considerably. As did Lennon.
DstN75
25-04-2022, 11:34 PM
The excitement will dissipate rapidly if the performances and results are bad.
By that logic will it continue to build if the performances and results are good?
Hibbyradge
25-04-2022, 11:40 PM
Just a thought, but maybe he’d win some games and the excitement would continue to build rather than disappear?
We'll, he might and if he arrives, I hope he does.
However, nobody, but nobody has said we should bring him in because he's a good manager.
It's all about personality, media presence and other non football related fantasy.
Hibbyradge
25-04-2022, 11:40 PM
By that logic will it continue to build if the performances and results are good?
Yes but why would they be good?
Hibbyradge
25-04-2022, 11:48 PM
Your assuming our Results would be a disaster
You don't need to be a world class manager to get OK Results in the spl
Martindale does it, mackay has done it, Tam courts done it
Roy Keane might or might not do it, we won't know that until he gets the job and it's next season
Between him being appointed and the season starting i think the general population of hibs fans would be excited to see how it unfolds and excited for the start of next season
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I'm interested in what happens on the pitch and I want Hibs to bring in a manager with strong managerial credentials.
Not someone who might be OK. If he wasn't on the telly, folk would scoff at the suggestion that we were going to bring in someone who was sacked from the second and last club he managed over 11 years ago.
Let's just agree that we're not going to. 😊
DstN75
25-04-2022, 11:52 PM
Yes but why would they be good?
You can't see a scenario in which they would be?
Celebrated football personality joins relatively small club, is able to secure enthusiasm from foreign owners partly through star quality, attracts players of a slightly higher standard and with much-discussed strength of character galvanises said team in a fairly lacklustre league such that they finish third and win the League Cup.
You think that's literally impossible because Sunderland once got ****ed off of Everton?
B.H.F.C
25-04-2022, 11:52 PM
We'll, he might and if he arrives, I hope he does.
However, nobody, but nobody has said we should bring him in because he's a good manager.
It's all about personality, media presence and other non football related fantasy.
We’re unlikely to get a manager who doesn’t have some kind of failure on their CV, if they’ve managed even a bit. He did well at Sunderland, not so well Ipswich. He’s also been part of a coaching staff that helped get Ireland to the knockout stages of the Euros.
It’s been made to sound like he’s achieved absolutely nothing beyond playing and I don’t think that’s the case.
Hibbyradge
25-04-2022, 11:58 PM
You can't see a scenario in which they would be?
Celebrated football personality joins relatively small club, is able to secure enthusiasm from foreign owners partly through star quality, attracts players of a slightly higher standard and with much-discussed strength of character galvanises said team in a fairly lacklustre league such that they finish third and win the League Cup.
You think that's literally impossible because Sunderland once got ****ed off of Everton?
Who mentioned Sunderland or Everton?
You've posted a complete fantasy based on your imagination and hope. I'll give it 9/10 for creativity.
You should have said Cup double to make it a perfect 10.
DstN75
26-04-2022, 12:01 AM
We’re unlikely to get a manager who doesn’t have some kind of failure on their CV, if they’ve managed even a bit. He did well at Sunderland, not so well Ipswich. He’s also been part of a coaching staff that helped get Ireland to the knockout stages of the Euros.
It’s been made to sound like he’s achieved absolutely nothing beyond playing and I don’t think that’s the case.
I agree. Keane seems to be being held up against this other manager who has 'good knowledge and a track record in the SPL', 'a decent winning CV of at least 50%', 'understands hibs and our way of playing' etc etc. Who is this guy?
DstN75
26-04-2022, 12:02 AM
Who mentioned Sunderland or Everton?
You've posted a complete fantasy based on your imagination and hope. I'll give it 9/10 for creativity.
You should have said Cup double to make it a perfect 10.
So you do think the scenario outlined above is literally impossible? Why?
Hibbyradge
26-04-2022, 12:07 AM
We’re unlikely to get a manager who doesn’t have some kind of failure on their CV, if they’ve managed even a bit. He did well at Sunderland, not so well Ipswich. He’s also been part of a coaching staff that helped get Ireland to the knockout stages of the Euros.
It’s been made to sound like he’s achieved absolutely nothing beyond playing and I don’t think that’s the case.
2 questions.
Do you think he'll be the candidate on our list with the best managerial experience, credentials and qualifications?
If his name was Paul Kemp or Steven Hartwell or James Gray something, but had the same experience as Keane, would you employ him to make Hibs a success?
I'm off to sleep now but we can continue this in the morning. Night.
Hibbyradge
26-04-2022, 12:10 AM
So you do think the scenario outlined above is literally impossible? Why?
Anything could happen. We could win the league with no manager if you imagine hard enough.
We could have kept Maloney and he could have won us the Cup double.
We could give the job to a fan and he might do a brilliant job.
It's a nonsense fantasy based on nothing but imagination and wishful thinking.
Callum_62
26-04-2022, 12:17 AM
2 questions.
Do you think he'll be the candidate on our list with the best managerial experience, credentials and qualifications?
If his name was Paul Kemp or Steven Hartwell or James Gray something, but had the same experience as Keane, would you employ him to make Hibs a success?
I'm off to sleep now but we can continue this in the morning. Night.I'd say Derek Mcinnes or Neil Lennon would probably be the guy with the best managerial experience and creditials
I think the hibs support would be (rightly or wrongly) more enthusistic for Roy Keane to be appointed though
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DstN75
26-04-2022, 12:20 AM
Anything could happen. We could win the league with no manager if you imagine hard enough.
We could have kept Maloney and he could have won us the Cup double.
We could give the job to a fan and he might do a brilliant job.
It's a nonsense fantasy based on nothing but imagination and wishful thinking.
But I didn't mention the cup double, you did.
You say it's a "nonsense fantasy" that I've concocted above, but can you explain precisely why? Is it impossible for Hibs to win the League Cup under Keane? Is it less or more likely than if your "fan" takes over?
JamesHFC
26-04-2022, 12:47 AM
Personally I can’t see it happening, I think it would again fall under the bracket of being a risk as he hasn’t actually been a manager for over a decade. He also seems quite fussy in what he’s looking for so I think there be too many complications in negotiating.
If he was to be appointed though I would be excited and want him to succeed.
In regards to media status we would certainly become more popular. Sky would want our games on TV, people who perhaps don’t know about Hibs would suddenly know about us, our name would be everywhere. I do think it would increase ST sales too.
There are people in the media who already stick it to us when they can, I’m intrigued as to whether they would be out for Keane from day one or try and be his best friend. I doubt he would take any **** from them anyway.
MWHIBBIES
26-04-2022, 04:20 AM
If it is Keane and he is a disaster, Ron needs hounding out. Nothing points to this being a good move imo. Just the biggest name. Shows there really is no process. Just picking low hanging fruit.
lyonhibs
26-04-2022, 05:40 AM
Dreadful idea. Chuck that CV right in the bin.
bingo70
26-04-2022, 05:51 AM
If it is Keane and he is a disaster, Ron needs hounding out. Nothing points to this being a good move imo. Just the biggest name. Shows there really is no process. Just picking low hanging fruit.
Good to see your remaining open minded.
Picking a new manager isn’t an exact science, there’ll be people you think would be good that’d be hopeless and there’ll be managers who you don’t fancy that could do well.
FilipinoHibs
26-04-2022, 05:55 AM
I think he would set a very high standard in everything the players did, training, diet, fitness, strengthening, work rate etc. That is his track record as player and manger including with Ireland.
Hibs90
26-04-2022, 06:13 AM
Oh well
easty
26-04-2022, 06:42 AM
Good to see your remaining open minded.
Picking a new manager isn’t an exact science, there’ll be people you think would be good that’d be hopeless and there’ll be managers who you don’t fancy that could do well.
Picking a manager is very difficult. You’re never sure if they’re going to work well with the style of football they want and the players available to them, and no manager comes in and gets a whole new squad. There’s certainly a large bit of luck in getting the right guy in.
Renfrew_Hibby
26-04-2022, 06:48 AM
I doubt that very much. It'll be a story if he signs for a few days and there might be interest for his first game in charge, but it'll be taken for granted quickly.
Sky sports news was never away from East Mains when Lennon was there, I'd imagine it would be ramped up a notch should Keane arrive.
Since452
26-04-2022, 06:49 AM
Hearts finish about Hibs for the first time in a decade. Pump us out the cup, confine us to bottom six but are immediately in our shadow again with one appointment (if it goes through) 😂 poor lambs got their five minutes in the sun.
04Sauzee
26-04-2022, 06:57 AM
Hibs players can look forward to this
https://twitter.com/FootballJOE/status/1516431150247518218?t=b9zlSQfyIRE-PB9c6rzcqQ&s=19
S4uzee
26-04-2022, 07:01 AM
Hearts finish about Hibs for the first time in a decade. Pump us out the cup, confine us to bottom six but are immediately in our shadow again with one appointment (if it goes through) 😂 poor lambs got their five minutes in the sun.
But what if they win the cup? Also in Europe next season. I’d rather be where they are
Nicho87
26-04-2022, 07:01 AM
Love watching Roy Keane as a pundit
Proper old school
Hire him Ron
Onceinawhile
26-04-2022, 07:38 AM
Love watching Roy Keane as a pundit
Proper old school
Hire him Ron
The problem with this is that his punditry is limited to old man shouting at clouds type stuff.
There's never any thought or analysis behind the tactics or anything like that. Just "these boys aren't trying hard enough" type nonsense.
Daily Hibs
26-04-2022, 07:46 AM
Roy Keane odds are now 1/1
It's interesting seeing Hibs fans turn their nose up at someone like Roy Keane and equally be outraged at Charlie Nicholas for actually being right and talking like a fan.
Hope Keane gets it and has a massive clear out.
I'm tired of meandering along aimlessly with the same old nice guys leading us not achieving very much.
Onceinawhile
26-04-2022, 07:50 AM
Roy Keane odds are now 1/1
It's interesting seeing Hibs fans turn their nose up at someone like Roy Keane and equally be outraged at Charlie Nicholas for actually being right and talking like a fan.
Hope Keane gets it and has a massive clear out.
I'm tired of meandering along aimlessly with the same old nice guys leading us not achieving very much.
Neil Lennon was cut from a similar cloth from Roy Keane. He had us absolutely spiralling into descent at the end of his tenure. He has a far better managerial track record too.
The idea we will all of a sudden transform into a good team because someone will come along and shout at the players if they don't do well is tragic.
Daily Hibs
26-04-2022, 07:52 AM
Neil Lennon was cut from a similar cloth from Roy Keane. He had us absolutely spiralling into descent at the end of his tenure. He has a far better managerial track record too.
The idea we will all of a sudden transform into a good team because someone will come along and shout at the players if they don't do well is tragic.
Have you not thought that he just might bring in players with strong characters that he knows can cope with his demands. Just a thought.
Bostonhibby
26-04-2022, 07:53 AM
Bring in billy broon for the full hoos!
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The been there, Dun things range.
Bring him home.
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hibby rae
26-04-2022, 08:02 AM
The problem with this is that his punditry is limited to old man shouting at clouds type stuff.
There's never any thought or analysis behind the tactics or anything like that. Just "these boys aren't trying hard enough" type nonsense.
I wouldn't agree with that tbh, and he mostly answers the questions he's asked. And if you do have a team that puts a shift in, in Scotland that's a very good starting point.
Kelly Cates said in an interview Keane and Souness get genuinely annoyed even watched games they have no stake in, not because of lack of ability or things not paying off, but when players aren't trying as hard as they can.
She says it's because they always gave 100% and it exasperates them some players aren't prepared to do that to be as good as they can. I don't think that's a bad trait to have in a manager
Hibbyradge
26-04-2022, 08:12 AM
But I didn't mention the cup double, you did.
You say it's a "nonsense fantasy" that I've concocted above, but can you explain precisely why? Is it impossible for Hibs to win the League Cup under Keane? Is it less or more likely than if your "fan" takes over?
Of course, it's possible that any manager could do that.
It's possible that if we brought in Ian Cathro, Jason Cummings or Craig Levein as manager, they might take us to third and win the league cup.
However, mere possibility isn't a good recruitment criteria.
Which is why I'm calling it a fantasy. Winning the Euromillions is possible, but it's also a fantasy.
Hibbyradge
26-04-2022, 08:13 AM
If it is Keane and he is a disaster, Ron needs hounding out. Nothing points to this being a good move imo. Just the biggest name. Shows there really is no process. Just picking low hanging fruit.
How do we"hound out" the owner?
bingo70
26-04-2022, 08:14 AM
How do we"hound out" the owner?
You use phrases like “picking low hanging fruit” until he can’t take it any more and leaves the country.
04Sauzee
26-04-2022, 08:17 AM
If it is Keane and he is a disaster, Ron needs hounding out. Nothing points to this being a good move imo. Just the biggest name. Shows there really is no process. Just picking low hanging fruit.
If it's someone else. Someone with a very good pedigree and they are a disaster, should he still be hounded out?
Hibernian Verse
26-04-2022, 08:17 AM
Low hanging fruit is usually a good thing, as in easy nutrition or gain.
If we get Keane it's fruit that we're picking up off the ground after it's been there for 10 years.
Hibbyradge
26-04-2022, 08:20 AM
Sky sports news was never away from East Mains when Lennon was there, I'd imagine it would be ramped up a notch should Keane arrive.
How does that help us win matches?
Mon Dieu4
26-04-2022, 08:20 AM
I will give anyone who comes in a chance and a fair crack of the whip but for some reason appointing Keane gives me the fear and I think we would be going through the exact same scenario all over again by the end of the season
superfurryhibby
26-04-2022, 08:20 AM
Neil Lennon was cut from a similar cloth from Roy Keane. He had us absolutely spiralling into descent at the end of his tenure. He has a far better managerial track record too.
The idea we will all of a sudden transform into a good team because someone will come along and shout at the players if they don't do well is tragic.
I’m not aware of Keane having chronic mental health issues. Perhaps this factor could be taken into account whilst trying and failing to make a reasonable comparison between the two?
Not wishing to sound too facetious, but Lennon has some very different “baggage” to Keane, some of which definitely had an impact on his tenure at Hibs.
Fwiw, I very much admired the way Lennon spoke about mental health, he was brave and forthright.
How many people have actually said that shouting at players is a good thing? I find that making ip something in order to sound a bit smug is pretty tragic way of making a point.
Scottie
26-04-2022, 08:25 AM
Low hanging fruit is usually a good thing, as in easy nutrition or gain.
If we get Keane it's fruit that we're picking up off the ground after it's been there for 10 years.
No when a dug pishes on it :wink:
hibby rae
26-04-2022, 08:28 AM
On the one hand in the past we appointed Colin Calderwood, who in 5 seasons as a manager had reached 3 play-offs and came runner up in leagues on 2 occasions. He was crap.
On the other hand, we also appointed someone like Mowbray, who had never managed before. He was not crap.
What they've achieved or not achieved in the past won't always matter in the present.
Paulie Walnuts
26-04-2022, 08:29 AM
I’m not aware of Keane having chronic mental health issues. Perhaps this factor could be taken into account whilst trying and failing to make a reasonable comparison between the two?
Not wishing to sound too facetious, but Lennon has some very different “baggage” to Keane, some of which definitely had an impact on his tenure at Hibs.
Fwiw, I very much admired the way Lennon spoke about mental health, he was brave and forthright.
How many people have actually said that shouting at players is a good thing? I find that making ip something in order to sound a bit smug is pretty tragic way of making a point.
Agree with your last paragraph.
I can’t say I’m particularly on board with the idea of Roy Keane but the whole “at least he’ll shout at people so he must be good” stuff only appears to be coming from people who don’t want him. I’ve not seen many people who do want him in saying that’s their reasons for it.
I personally just think we wouldn’t be going for him if he wasn’t Roy Keane. His record is really nothing to write home about and he’s not been a manager for a decade. If this was Barry Smith the decent Sunderland and poor Ipswich manager from 10 years ago then I’d suggest his name wouldn’t be anywhere near the job and absolutely nobody would want him if it was.
Personality isn’t enough to be a good manager and I fear we’re hanging our hat on that being enough if we do appoint him.
MWHIBBIES
26-04-2022, 08:29 AM
If it's someone else. Someone with a very good pedigree and they are a disaster, should he still be hounded out?
Probably not no. Picking a good candidate and then failing us hard to see coming. Picking a bad candidate and then failing isn't.
hibby rae
26-04-2022, 08:31 AM
I’m not aware of Keane having chronic mental health issues. Perhaps this factor could be taken into account whilst trying and failing to make a reasonable comparison between the two?
Not wishing to sound too facetious, but Lennon has some very different “baggage” to Keane, some of which definitely had an impact on his tenure at Hibs.
Fwiw, I very much admired the way Lennon spoke about mental health, he was brave and forthright.
How many people have actually said that shouting at players is a good thing? I find that making ip something in order to sound a bit smug is pretty tragic way of making a point.
My understanding from what players who served under him, and alongside him (like Gary Neville), have said is that has never really been his style. Despite what the perception of him is.
Hibbyradge
26-04-2022, 08:33 AM
You use phrases like “picking low hanging fruit” until he can’t take it any more and leaves the country.
You've really pushed the envelope with that one.
G15 Hibs
26-04-2022, 08:33 AM
If he gets the job it'll be a period folk will write chapters in books about in 20 years time. Not necessarily a good thing, but it'll be something at least. Instinctively I think it would be a disaster, but I'm coming round to the more devil-may-care, it'll be ****ing wild viewpoint of others on here.
We'll still be here after he's gone, the club will still be here and it might be a bit fun for a while. Feel we need a bit nonsense, one way or another.
Mick O'Rourke
26-04-2022, 08:33 AM
No when a dug pishes on it :wink:
Aye, right enough, if Mike Bassett was assistant with goalkeeping coach Rab Dug-less
I read that Roy has now officially applied or at least he or agent have contacted the club .
G15 Hibs
26-04-2022, 08:36 AM
No when a dug pishes on it :wink:
Just how low is this fruit hanging??
Hibbyradge
26-04-2022, 08:39 AM
On the one hand in the past we appointed Colin Calderwood, who in 5 seasons as a manager had reached 3 play-offs and came runner up in leagues on 2 occasions. He was crap.
On the other hand, we also appointed someone like Mowbray, who had never managed before. He was not crap.
What they've achieved or not achieved in the past won't always matter in the present.
This is true.
Maloney was a risk, it went wrong.
If Keane's name hadn't been mentioned and we'd done a poll asking people if Hibs should take another risk or appoint an experienced manager with solid credentials, the latter would have won hands down.
But because it's a "big name" and he talks a lot on the telly, we're now throwing caution to the wind.
It's not intelligent thinking but it's football so I guess he's evens favourite for a reason.
Zambernardi1875
26-04-2022, 08:40 AM
Agree with your last paragraph.
I can’t say I’m particularly on board with the idea of Roy Keane but the whole “at least he’ll shout at people so he must be good” stuff only appears to be coming from people who don’t want him. I’ve not seen many people who do want him in saying that’s their reasons for it.
I personally just think we wouldn’t be going for him if he wasn’t Roy Keane. His record is really nothing to write home about and he’s not been a manager for a decade. If this was Barry Smith the decent Sunderland and poor Ipswich manager from 10 years ago then I’d suggest his name wouldn’t be anywhere near the job and absolutely nobody would want him if it was.
Personality isn’t enough to be a good manager and I fear we’re hanging our hat on that being enough if we do appoint him.
And yet average player average manager with Sunderland and lower Scottish clubs called Jack Ross was deemed fantastic appointment by many
Hibbyradge
26-04-2022, 08:43 AM
Just how low is this fruit hanging??
Do blackberries and raspberries hang?
Strawberries just sit there asking to be pished on but it would have to be a big dog to pee on an apple or a plum.
superfurryhibby
26-04-2022, 08:44 AM
Agree with your last paragraph.
I can’t say I’m particularly on board with the idea of Roy Keane but the whole “at least he’ll shout at people so he must be good” stuff only appears to be coming from people who don’t want him. I’ve not seen many people who do want him in saying that’s their reasons for it.
I personally just think we wouldn’t be going for him if he wasn’t Roy Keane. His record is really nothing to write home about and he’s not been a manager for a decade. If this was Barry Smith the decent Sunderland and poor Ipswich manager from 10 years ago then I’d suggest his name wouldn’t be anywhere near the job and absolutely nobody would want him if it was.
Personality isn’t enough to be a good manager and I fear we’re hanging our hat on that being enough if we do appoint him.
Of course, he is indeed Roy Keane and that’s a huge factor. He has still been coaching over the years and if he feels the time is right for him to return to management, then he will be older and wiser for what has passed before.
Would I rather have Keane or an appointment like Appleton, Heckingbottom, Maloney or Ross?
Yes, he would put Hibs under the spotlight, hugely raise our profile and, hopefully, oblige Gordon to up his game in terms of investment in the first team.
Mick O'Rourke
26-04-2022, 08:47 AM
[re alloswedQUOTE=G15 Hibs;6938692]Just how low is this fruit hanging??[/QUOTE]
Pygmy apple trees? Great Dane dugs ?:tee hee:
Many moons ago we use to walk from Clermistion to an orchard near Turnhoose.
We were allowed to collect the "windfalls" (fruit on the deck)
Just starting eating the fruit right away.
Take the rest hame for ma's apple crumble
Dugs were cleaner in those days .No worries :cb
Daily Hibs
26-04-2022, 08:47 AM
And yet average player average manager with Sunderland and lower Scottish clubs called Jack Ross was deemed fantastic appointment by many
Yea, well put, very bizarre outlook some have regarding Roy Keane.
Jack Ross = fantastic appointment.
Roy Keane = not good enough.
Ron, please get a deal for Roy Keane as manager over the line!
would be our highest profile manager ever.
147lothian
26-04-2022, 08:48 AM
How does that help us win matches?
Its a good question, and I am also concerned about us going down the road of appointing another manager who has not got managerial experience. I believe that anyone who wants a career in management should go to a small club first make his mistakes there before being taken by a club like Hibs. However while I take that point, the caliber of player that Roy Keane would be able to attract and the profile of the club would be raised to such an extent that I think this is probably worth taking the gamble on.
Turkish Green
26-04-2022, 08:49 AM
Keane was the manager when my son was at the Ipswich Academy. I do not have a bad word to say about him.
JimBHibees
26-04-2022, 08:50 AM
Keane was the manager when my son was at the Ipswich Academy. I do not have a bad word to say about him.
In what way? What is he like away from the screen?
Hibbyradge
26-04-2022, 08:51 AM
Its a good question, and I am also concerned about us going down the road of appointing another manager who has not got managerial experience. I believe that anyone who wants a career in management should go to a small club first make his mistakes there before being taken by a club like Hibs. However while I take that point, the caliber of player that Roy Keane would be able to attract and the profile of the club would be raised to such an extent that I think this is probably worth taking the gamble on.
Now that he's seemingly matured and reinvented himself as a manager, Roy Keane probably thinks we're the small club he can make his mistakes with before going to a big club.
GreenGray
26-04-2022, 08:51 AM
Dreadful idea. Chuck that CV right in the bin.
What other managers we have been linked with have a promotion to the premier league on their cv? Not only that he kept Sunderland in it for a seasons
Yes it was ten years ago, and yes it’s a risk (as is every appointment) but Keane is the first name linked who’s actually got me and many others excited. I still don’t think it’ll happen though.
Johnny_Leith
26-04-2022, 08:52 AM
I think Keane would give us a massive shot in the arm.
I'm all for it.
Hibbyradge
26-04-2022, 08:53 AM
I think Keane would give us a massive shot in the dark.
I'm all for it.
Ftfy
Paulie Walnuts
26-04-2022, 08:54 AM
What kind of football did Keane play at Sunderland and Ipswich? Was it attacking or quite reserved and defensive?
I can’t say I remember his Sunderland team at all if I’m honest and I wouldn’t have watched Ipswich.
147lothian
26-04-2022, 08:55 AM
Now that he's seemingly matured and reinvented himself as a manager, Roy Keane probably thinks we're the small club he can make his mistakes with before going to a big club.
I take your point with the way that Scottish football is viewed down south.
Bostonhibby
26-04-2022, 08:55 AM
Just how low is this fruit hanging??It's worse for some folk than others, problem of age sadly.
The dug pushing on them thing is for a whole different forum.....
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Mick O'Rourke
26-04-2022, 08:58 AM
Yea, well put, very bizarre outlook some have regarding Roy Keane.
Jack Ross = fantastic appointment.
Roy Keane = not good enough.
Ron, please get a deal for Roy Keane as manager over the line!
555555555555
would be our highest profile manager ever.
Am sure Ron will be aware of the exposure the club would get in the wider fooball world if Roy was here,and from companies wishing to be associated,sponsors,etc.
English football shows mentioning/interviewing Roy and Hibs,showing clips of our games.
Hospitality would also be getting weekly enquiries from Dan South.
Just look at the attention Gerrard got from MSM when at sevco.
Yes ,of course ,we want a team on the park to be proud of,but i think such an appointment could boost the club in all areas .
I see i am trying to make a case for signing Roy Keane.
Am not alone it appears from posts here,and other threads.
I dont do any other social media/football forums,but i gather Roy is a favourite choice on other platforms.
If Roy sees it as a chance to in the future get a gig in EPL or English Championship
(which he would like,but thinks has past him) he is not going to mess about up here.
Am Keane for the Roy appointment.
Hibbyradge
26-04-2022, 08:59 AM
I texted an Ipswich supporting friend this morning.
I wrote simply "Roy Keane linked with Hibs. I'm fearful".
Their reply was "Oh no! That would be the worst possible appointment. He wrecked us."
Callum_62
26-04-2022, 09:03 AM
I texted an Ipswich supporting friend this morning.
I wrote simply "Roy Keane linked with Hibs. I'm fearful".
Their reply was "Oh no! That would be the worst possible appointment. He wrecked us."I wonder what the ICT fans say about Terry Butcher?
As they say, Its a funny old game
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bingo70
26-04-2022, 09:03 AM
I texted an Ipswich supporting friend this morning.
I wrote simply "Roy Keane linked with Hibs. I'm fearful".
Their reply was "Oh no! That would be the worst possible appointment. He wrecked us."
Text your mate back and say it’s him or Paul Lambert.
ben johnson
26-04-2022, 09:04 AM
On rejecting the chance to sign Robbie Savage for Sunderland
“I got Robbie’s mobile number and rang him. It went to his voicemail: ‘Hi, it’s Robbie – whazzup!’ Like the Budweiser ad. I never called him back. I thought, ‘I can’t be f****** signing that’."
Johnny_Leith
26-04-2022, 09:04 AM
Ftfy
Can't disagree really, but every managers a risk. I often like Keane's perspective, I think he'd give us some much needed bite and he's a good coach.
I hope he's matured since Ipswich and Sunderland. It seems that way on sky but of course that's completely different from day-to-day management.
LaMotta
26-04-2022, 09:06 AM
Probably not no. Picking a good candidate and then failing us hard to see coming. Picking a bad candidate and then failing isn't.
Yes but just because you think he is a bad candidate doesn't mean he is.
The Down the Slope poll on Twiter has had nearly 750 respondents and ony 17% are against the appointment.
If Keane does somehow get the gig, then an appointment that has the backing of the majority of fans shouldn't lead to Gordon being hounded out. Every managerial appointment is a gamble.
I understand concerns about Keane, but an appointment that appears to excite the majority of fans and brings likely commercial uplift to the club has a fair bit of logic behind it.
Bridge hibs
26-04-2022, 09:10 AM
On rejecting the chance to sign Robbie Savage for Sunderland
“I got Robbie’s mobile number and rang him. It went to his voicemail: ‘Hi, it’s Robbie – whazzup!’ Like the Budweiser ad. I never called him back. I thought, ‘I can’t be f****** signing that’."Brilliant, Im warming to Keane now 🤣
LaMotta
26-04-2022, 09:11 AM
Am sure Ron will be aware of the exposure the club would get in the wider fooball world if Roy was here,and from companies wishing to be associated,sponsors,etc.
Hospitality would also be getting weekly enquiries from Dan South.
Just look at the attention Gerrard got from MSM when at sevco.
Yes ,of course ,we want a team on the park to be proud of,but i think such an appointment could boost the club in all areas
If Roy sees it as a chance to in the future get a gig in EPL or English Championship (which he would like,but thinks has past him)he is not going to mess about up here.
Am in !
You've got people down south on Twitter saying they are gutted at the prospect of him leaving Sky as a pundit and would try to come to Hibs games if he got the job. This really would be a massive appointment.
04Sauzee
26-04-2022, 09:11 AM
I texted an Ipswich supporting friend this morning.
I wrote simply "Roy Keane linked with Hibs. I'm fearful".
Their reply was "Oh no! That would be the worst possible appointment. He wrecked us."
My Barnsley supporting mate told me that Heckingbottom would be a fantastic appointment, he got me quite excited about him coming to ER.
Since452
26-04-2022, 09:12 AM
There will be other applicants with better managerial CV's than Keane. Of course there will. Absolutely none of them would generate as much excitement, attention or "wow factor" as Roy Keane. Sometimes it's about the right person at the right time at the right club. We need a shot in the arm and the stars are aligning on this one for me.
04Sauzee
26-04-2022, 09:12 AM
Yes but just because you think he is a bad candidate doesn't mean he is.
The Down the Slope poll on Twiter has had nearly 750 respondents and ony 17% are against the appointment.
If Keane does somehow get the gig, then an appointment that has the backing of the majority of fans shouldn't lead to Gordon being hounded out. Every managerial appointment is a gamble.
I understand concerns about Keane, but an appointment that appears to excite the majority of fans and brings likely commercial uplift to the club has a fair bit of logic behind it.
To be fair a Twitter Poll by a Hibs account can be voted on by anyone , I'm sure there were a few cheeky Jambos voting on that poll 😁
Greenworld
26-04-2022, 09:12 AM
Almost Every bit of me says this would be a disaster.
However 10% of me is saying jesus Roy Keane .Immediate world wide interest . Sky camped at our training ground . Maybe he could get Gary Neville as his assistant ? Sky sports would pay us 5 million for a documentary following the incredible rise of of Hibernian United.
10 players out 10 better players in all **** scared not to win .
Or
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LaMotta
26-04-2022, 09:13 AM
Now that he's seemingly matured and reinvented himself as a manager, Roy Keane probably thinks we're the small club he can make his mistakes with before going to a big club.
Why is that bad though? If he managed to go to a bigger club after his time at Hibs then that very likely means he would have been a success with us.
hibby rae
26-04-2022, 09:15 AM
I texted an Ipswich supporting friend this morning.
I wrote simply "Roy Keane linked with Hibs. I'm fearful".
Their reply was "Oh no! That would be the worst possible appointment. He wrecked us."
Tbf looking up Ipswich on Wikipedia, since Joe Royle in 04-05, only Mick McCarthy has had any kind of success and even then it was for one season getting them to the play-offs and losing to Norwich in the semis..
So the problem with Ipswich might not have been Roy Keane.
Hibbyradge
26-04-2022, 09:16 AM
Why is that bad though? If he managed to go to a bigger club after his time at Hibs then that very likely means he would have been a success with us.
It's the mistakes that are bad.
LaMotta
26-04-2022, 09:16 AM
To be fair a Twitter Poll by a Hibs account can be voted on by anyone , I'm sure there were a few cheeky Jambos voting on that poll 😁
Yes you are right on that, but i actually doubt most Hearts fans would relish the prospect of a big name like Keane being involved with us. Most of them will hate that.
LaMotta
26-04-2022, 09:19 AM
It's the mistakes that are bad.
Yeah but everyone will make mistakes. If he's got a bigger job then the mistakes won't have mattered too much.
stuart-farquhar
26-04-2022, 09:19 AM
Now that he's seemingly matured and reinvented himself as a manager, Roy Keane probably thinks we're the small club he can make his mistakes with before going to a big club.
I thought the same as a fan. And here I am decades later still suffering :)
hibby rae
26-04-2022, 09:20 AM
My Barnsley supporting mate told me that Heckingbottom would be a fantastic appointment, he got me quite excited about him coming to ER.
I had a mate text me to say Josh Vela was a great signing :rolleyes:
bingo70
26-04-2022, 09:20 AM
There will be other applicants with better managerial CV's than Keane. Of course there will. Absolutely none of them would generate as much excitement, attention or "wow factor" as Roy Keane. Sometimes it's about the right person at the right time at the right club. We need a shot in the arm and the stars are aligning on this one for me.
In terms of being the right person at the right time, I think this could be a good time for someone like Keane at Hibs. Our last manager was clearly a very deep thinker and very methodical about things with lots of new fresh ideas no doubt learned at that fancy football university in Amsterdam. I think Keane would strip it all back and simplify it all and the players would like that.
Football is a simple game and although it’s great there’s lots of new thinking going on, i think there’s a time and a place for it. I think the contrast compared to the previous manager could work well at this moment in time. Just one example but when we’ve been struggling recently, I’m not sure our defenders will have been wanting to receive goal kicks under pressure from Macey recently.
Once players are happy and confident you can build on that but short term, I think the players would likely enjoy a return to the basics.
Walter
26-04-2022, 09:30 AM
**** it, what is life without a joyride
on-the-level
26-04-2022, 09:33 AM
And yet average player average manager with Sunderland and lower Scottish clubs called Jack Ross was deemed fantastic appointment by many
Yip totally agree
Did Ross get Sunderland promoted?
Victor
26-04-2022, 09:37 AM
Regardless of who the new manager is, I hope we have him here before the end of the season, even if they just sit in the stand and don’t get involved in the day to day running of the team. I think it is important that they see the team live in action and not just watching replays. I think that it is also important that they listen to SDG and other coaches about where our weaknesses lie. Starting with a clean slate is probably where Maloney went wrong, relying too heavily on players that the previous Manager wouldn’t play.
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G15 Hibs
26-04-2022, 09:40 AM
It's worse for some folk than others, problem of age sadly.
The dug pushing on them thing is for a whole different forum.....
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:greengrin
Tbf looking up Ipswich on Wikipedia, since Joe Royle in 04-05, only Mick McCarthy has had any kind of success and even then it was for one season getting them to the play-offs and losing to Norwich in the semis..
So the problem with Ipswich might not have been Roy Keane.
Exactly. I think there's bigger issues at Ipswich. McCarthy, who replaced Paul Jewell, who'd replaced Keane, had them in the Premier playoffs before they started drifting down the Championship then into League 1. The owners don't seem to have much ambition other than to keep the club going, which I suppose is better than overstretching and going out of business I suppose but you can't blame Roy Keane for their current situation. The only way I can see that someone would think that is that when they did have ambition they gave him a fair amount of cash to spend and it didn't work out. Again, is that entirely his fault?
Danderhall Hibs
26-04-2022, 09:42 AM
Text your mate back and say it’s him or Paul Lambert.
He’ll probably say it’s like choosing between Butcher and Calderwood/Heckingbottom.
bingo70
26-04-2022, 09:42 AM
Regardless of who the new manager is, I hope we have him here before the end of the season, even if they just sit in the stand and don’t get involved in the day to day running of the team. I think it is important that they see the team live in action and not just watching replays. I think that it is also important that they listen to SDG and other coaches about where our weaknesses lie. Starting with a clean slate is probably where Maloney went wrong, relying too heavily on players that the previous Manager wouldn’t play.
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Totally agree.
Hearts also announced this morning their pre-season plans. Difficult for us to plan that in advance until we know who the manager is and what they want to do.
Important the club take their time to get the right person but there are time pressures and it’s not a free reign until the end of the season now we are all but safe. Really need to hit the ground running from pre-season.
04Sauzee
26-04-2022, 09:45 AM
I'm neither for or against Keane. Sometimes I think he'd be fantastic and other times I break into a cold sweat.
I was looking at the managers that Ipswich have had in recent years and had a look at their points per game. O don't know what leagues they were in so not sure what the opposition would be like but points per game
Jim Magilton 1.412
Roy Keane 1.345
Paul Jewel 1.235
Mick McCarthy 1.408
Paul Lambert 1.23
Paul Cook 1.272
CapitalGreen
26-04-2022, 09:50 AM
I wonder what the ICT fans say about Terry Butcher?
As they say, Its a funny old game
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ICT improved after Butcher left, the following season they finished 3rd and won the Scottish Cup.
Callum_62
26-04-2022, 09:52 AM
ICT improved after Butcher left, the following season they finished 3rd and won the Scottish Cup.Butchers team though [emoji57]
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bigwheel
26-04-2022, 09:53 AM
I wonder what the ICT fans say about Terry Butcher?
As they say, Its a funny old game
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Not sure. But heard some of the views of their players - hated him , thought he was an arse
IIRC Lennon wasn't one we were looking at, he contacted us telling us of his interest, he was opposite to the model we were looking for, Leeann wanted a young up an coming coach like Stubbs but Lennon too good to turn down. The same could be said about Keane, I watched the video with Neville, I liked what I heard, he's learnt a lot over the years and realised his mistakes.
Jones28
26-04-2022, 10:08 AM
If it is Keane and he is a disaster, Ron needs hounding out. Nothing points to this being a good move imo. Just the biggest name. Shows there really is no process. Just picking low hanging fruit.
Who are you bringing in then?
Ron has made one poor appointment with Maloney, and promptly sacked him.
JXM73
26-04-2022, 10:15 AM
Keane was the manager when my son was at the Ipswich Academy. I do not have a bad word to say about him.
Aye but what about Roy Keane?
Jones28
26-04-2022, 10:16 AM
IIRC Lennon wasn't one we were looking at, he contacted us telling us of his interest, he was opposite to the model we were looking for, Leeann wanted a young up an coming coach like Stubbs but Lennon too good to turn down. The same could be said about Keane, I watched the video with Neville, I liked what I heard, he's learnt a lot over the years and realised his mistakes.
I find that really interesting, and the polar opposite of what happened with Maloney.
Hibbyradge
26-04-2022, 10:16 AM
Aye but what about Roy Keane?
:faf:
Pretty Boy
26-04-2022, 10:23 AM
There's no guarantee any manager will last all that long at Hibs currently. I'm just not convinced we are set up to facilitate a manager being a success.
With that in mind I'm quite tempted by the idea of just going for the radge option. It might only last 6 months but so might Kevin Thomson or Malky Mackay. It would be an absolutely mental ride for however long it lasted and would probably make the latter days of Lennon's reign look positively calm and collected.
superfurryhibby
26-04-2022, 10:38 AM
It would be interesting to hear from those who outright dismiss Keane, maybe they could suggest who they favour?
It's easy to sit and knock every body else, without offering your own choice.
Billy Whizz
26-04-2022, 10:40 AM
It would be interesting to hear from those who outright dismiss Keane, maybe they could suggest who they favour?
It's easy to sit and knock every body else, without offering your own choice.
He’s a risk no doubt, but I’d like Hibs to go through a robust process, to get the right person who wants the job, and is available
That’s all I ask for
Paulie Walnuts
26-04-2022, 10:42 AM
It would be interesting to hear from those who outright dismiss Keane, maybe they could suggest who they favour?
It's easy to sit and knock every body else, without offering your own choice.
There’s absolutely nobody stands out for me if I’m totally honest. The ones that do like Knutsen are completely unrealistic so no point even discussing them.
Obviously that’s no use to Hibs. If they appoint Keane then fair enough, I’m not going to moan about it as there’s nobody obviously better. Seems to be a weird time to be looking for a manager just now tbh, usually there’s one or two really obvious candidates, I wouldn’t say there is any this time.
LaMotta
26-04-2022, 10:46 AM
It would be interesting to hear from those who outright dismiss Keane, maybe they could suggest who they favour?
It's easy to sit and knock every body else, without offering your own choice.
And remember, they have to have never failed, not made too many mistakes, are not allowed to shout at players, not allowed to use Hibs as a stepping stone to a bigger club, must have plenty of experience but can't be a dinosaur, all their previous players must have liked him and fans of his previous clubs must also not have a bad word to say about him. He must also be a good appointment rather than a bad appointment. :greengrin
superfurryhibby
26-04-2022, 10:50 AM
There’s absolutely nobody stands out for me if I’m totally honest. The ones that do like Knutsen are completely unrealistic so no point even discussing them.
Obviously that’s no use to Hibs. If they appoint Keane then fair enough, I’m not going to moan about it as there’s nobody obviously better. Seems to be a weird time to be looking for a manager just now tbh, usually there’s one or two really obvious candidates, I wouldn’t say there is any this time.
Yes, tend to agree with this.
There are no stand out candidates. I would rather have a bit of box office, someone who might just shake the whole thing up a bit, rather than a Hecky or Appleton type figure.
superfurryhibby
26-04-2022, 10:51 AM
And remember, they have to have never failed, not made too many mistakes, are not allowed to shout at players, not allowed to use Hibs as a stepping stone to a bigger club, must have plenty of experience but can't be a dinosaur, all their previous players must have liked him and fans of his previous clubs must also not have a bad word to say about him. He must also be a good appointment rather than a bad appointment. :greengrin
:top marks
Zambernardi1875
26-04-2022, 10:52 AM
**** it, what is life without a joyride
That’s where I’m at, we competed football in 2016 for me, bring in the bonnettis
bigwheel
26-04-2022, 10:52 AM
It would be interesting to hear from those who outright dismiss Keane, maybe they could suggest who they favour?
It's easy to sit and knock every body else, without offering your own choice.
Objectively There’s more to question about Keane , than to underline his credentials . If they look far and wide and he turned out to be their assessed , chosen candidate then it will surprise me, but I’ll get fully on board for the ride . If they were to go for him just because of his profile , and personality then it would spook me about their capabilities to run our club …
Id rather have Lennon - brings most of what Kean has. Except he has much more current management credentials
Juice-Terry
26-04-2022, 10:53 AM
Can someone supply a link to the interview people seem to be impressed by (was it with Gary Neville)?
Cheers.
Hibbyradge
26-04-2022, 10:53 AM
It would be interesting to hear from those who outright dismiss Keane, maybe they could suggest who they favour?
It's easy to sit and knock every body else, without offering your own choice.
I'm not knocking everyone else, I'm knocking Keane.
I don't know who else is in the frame or available, so I can't suggest an alternative name, but I'd be stunned if Keane is the best option.
Paulie Walnuts
26-04-2022, 10:59 AM
Can someone supply a link to the interview people seem to be impressed by (was it with Gary Neville)?
Cheers.
https://youtu.be/_1FqQwgMZtg
I'd take him. He's got experience, doesn't take no s*it and would bring in a decent calibre of player to the club.
Similar personality to Lenny and up until the last 2/3 months I thoroughly enjoyed that rollercoaster.
Of course he's a volatile character and it could all end up in tears but what manager isn't a risk?
Hibbyradge
26-04-2022, 11:05 AM
And remember, they have to have never failed, not made too many mistakes, are not allowed to shout at players, not allowed to use Hibs as a stepping stone to a bigger club, must have plenty of experience but can't be a dinosaur, all their previous players must have liked him and fans of his previous clubs must also not have a bad word to say about him. He must also be a good appointment rather than a bad appointment. :greengrin
Excellent sarcasm, but that's always the criteria we aim for. We don't always get it, but starting off wanting less than the best is, er, accepting mediocrity.
By the way, shouting at players isn't the issue. It's an ability to manage players with different motivational needs.
Paul Gasgoine was one of the best midfielders I ever saw in the flesh, both for Spurs and for the Huns. He wouldn't have responded well to a confrontational, aggressive approach.
The perception I have of Keane is that he's a driven individual which is good, but when things don't go his way, he becomes one dimensional with a single approach to people.
I will concede that the mere fact that I've replied to so many posts does go to show that his name has generated interest, even if a lot of it is negative.
Hopefully Hibs will stop the speculation soon with news of an appointment.
Hibbyradge
26-04-2022, 11:09 AM
I'd take him. He's got experience, doesn't take no s*it and would bring in a decent calibre of player to the club.
Similar personality to Lenny and up until the last 2/3 months I thoroughly enjoyed that rollercoaster.
Of course he's a volatile character and it could all end up in tears but what manager isn't a risk?
Maloney showed early on that he "didn't take no s*it" when he had a go at Jack Ross regarding Martin Boyle.
Not taking s*it isn't an attribute that I'd weigh too heavily.
Spike Mandela
26-04-2022, 11:11 AM
A 24 page thread(so far) would suggest he would certainly be box office but I’m not sure he’s got the managerial attributes Hibs would be looking for.
Edit: Unless it’s box office they’re looking for.:greengrin
AugustaHibs
26-04-2022, 11:14 AM
Maloney showed early on that he "didn't take no s*it" when he had a go at Jack Ross regarding Martin Boyle.
Not taking s*it isn't an attribute that I'd weigh too heavily.
We had him in every interview post the semi congratulating the players after losing to our rivals in a cup semi final.
His assistant tweeting about how proud he was etc.
Wouldn’t get that with Keane.
blackpoolhibs
26-04-2022, 11:14 AM
There's no guarantee any manager will last all that long at Hibs currently. I'm just not convinced we are set up to facilitate a manager being a success.
With that in mind I'm quite tempted by the idea of just going for the radge option. It might only last 6 months but so might Kevin Thomson or Malky Mackay. It would be an absolutely mental ride for however long it lasted and would probably make the latter days of Lennon's reign look positively calm and collected.
My thoughts exactly, supporting Hibs these days has become a chore, appointing Keane would brighten the place up for a bit.
It would make the place exciting for a while, who knows how long but it would change the way i certainly feel about the club.
JohnM1875
26-04-2022, 11:15 AM
It's weird, folk would probably happily take Martin O'Neill, who was manager at both ROI and Nottingham Forest with Keane as his assistant.
O'Neill's last success in football was probably over a decade ago as well.
147lothian
26-04-2022, 11:16 AM
For me the most important thing about the next manager is the caliber of players he is able to attract, when a player crosses the white line, there is only so much a manager can do bordering on nothing. For this reason I am ready to give Roy Keane a chance, even though I have my own reservations and I do understand the concerns of others, for me this could be a much better appointment that Ross, Maloney etc etc
Juice-Terry
26-04-2022, 11:18 AM
https://youtu.be/_1FqQwgMZtg
Braw. Cheers.
Hibbyradge
26-04-2022, 11:23 AM
We had him in every interview post the semi congratulating the players after losing to our rivals in a cup semi final.
His assistant tweeting about how proud he was etc.
Wouldn’t get that with Keane.
Hibs deserved something out of that game. They had hearts on the rack for long periods. Despite the disappointment, that needed to be recognised. I'm sure Keane would have pointed that out too.
However, I want a manager to put a team out that doesn't lose in semi finals so that how to manage players directly after a defeat like that isn't an issue.
Imo, that man isn't Roy Keane.
Hibbyradge
26-04-2022, 11:24 AM
It's weird, folk would probably happily take Martin O'Neill
How do you know that?
Since452
26-04-2022, 11:26 AM
A lot hinges on what Roy says to Ron/Ben at the interview. If he thinks he can fit in to the structure and work within the system we have then fair enough. If he goes in demanding full control of everything and x amount budget then it's a non starter. He's not daft though and his agent will be well aware of our structure. Make no mistake, Hibernian would be a big job for Keane. I'm not surprised he's interested. A lot of people will be.
WhileTheChief..
26-04-2022, 11:27 AM
Maloney showed early on that he "didn't take no s*it" when he had a go at Jack Ross regarding Martin Boyle.
Not taking s*it isn't an attribute that I'd weigh too heavily.
No, he didn't. He made an arse of himself and continued to do so every day he was here.
You're focusing way too much on this perceived notion that Keane is all about aggression and taking no ****. This is just made up fantasy stuff (borrowing your language here).
How about him inspiring players, passing on his experience of what's required to be a top footballer and leading men to greater things. He has the strength of personality and aura that to me, instantly commands respect. This is what I like about him. Nowt to do with him being on the telly.
Plus he was an amazing player. If you can't be inspired by someone that played at the very top level for so long you shouldn't even be trying to be a footballer.
We have coaches to coach the team. Well, we will have now that Caldwell is away.
Keane would be a manager more in the mould of Fergie. He wasn't on the training pitch every day and definitely didn't put the cones out. We have other folks for these jobs.
Keane would galvanise a lot of the support, it would be a statement of intent from RG and would instantly start to address the losing mentality at our club.
That's not me speaking btw, that was RG in his interviews, talking about needing a winning mentality at the club. This is 100% the most important thing we need to change.
I think Keane more than anyone else could do it. If not him, bring Lennon back :greengrin
Hibbyradge
26-04-2022, 11:31 AM
No, he didn't. He made an arse of himself and continued to do so every day he was here.
You're focusing way too much on this perceived notion that Keane is all about aggression and taking no ****. This is just made up fantasy stuff (borrowing your language here).
How about him inspiring players, passing on his experience of what's required to be a top footballer and leading men to greater things. He has the strength of personality and aura that to me, instantly commands respect. This is what I like about him. Nowt to do with him being on the telly.
Plus he was an amazing player. If you can't be inspired by someone that played at the very top level for so long you shouldn't even be trying to be a footballer.
We have coaches to coach the team. Well, we will have now that Caldwell is away.
Keane would be a manager more in the mould of Fergie. He wasn't on the training pitch every day and definitely didn't put the cones out. We have other folks for these jobs.
Keane would galvanise a lot of the support, it would be a statement of intent from RG and would instantly start to address the losing mentality at our club.
That's not me speaking btw, that was RG in his interviews, talking about needing a winning mentality at the club. This is 100% the most important thing we need to change.
I think Keane more than anyone else could do it. If not him, bring Lennon back :greengrin
Keane has made an arse of himself countless times. His aggression isn't fantasy stuff, it's recorded for posterity!
I'm really going to try to keep away from this subject now. (Try? There is no try).
#AnnounceGuardiola.
A 24 page thread(so far) would suggest he would certainly be box office but I’m not sure he’s got the managerial attributes Hibs would be looking for.
Edit: Unless it’s box office they’re looking for.:greengrin
Fans might turn out for box office.
Since452
26-04-2022, 11:35 AM
No, he didn't. He made an arse of himself and continued to do so every day he was here.
You're focusing way too much on this perceived notion that Keane is all about aggression and taking no ****. This is just made up fantasy stuff (borrowing your language here).
How about him inspiring players, passing on his experience of what's required to be a top footballer and leading men to greater things. He has the strength of personality and aura that to me, instantly commands respect. This is what I like about him. Nowt to do with him being on the telly.
Plus he was an amazing player. If you can't be inspired by someone that played at the very top level for so long you shouldn't even be trying to be a footballer.
We have coaches to coach the team. Well, we will have now that Caldwell is away.
Keane would be a manager more in the mould of Fergie. He wasn't on the training pitch every day and definitely didn't put the cones out. We have other folks for these jobs.
Keane would galvanise a lot of the support, it would be a statement of intent from RG and would instantly start to address the losing mentality at our club.
That's not me speaking btw, that was RG in his interviews, talking about needing a winning mentality at the club. This is 100% the most important thing we need to change.
I think Keane more than anyone else could do it. If not him, bring Lennon back :greengrin
Keane as the figurehead with good coaches around him sounds superb to me.
A Hi-Bee
26-04-2022, 11:40 AM
Fans might turn out for box office.
Everyone in football, even outside of the game is talking about Hibs, is anyone mentioning the other manky lot, no I thought not.
Football is entertainment and thats what gets bums on seats, even getting beat is less painful when you leave a real good game behind, time to shake things up at Easter Road, go get him Ron.
:thumbsup:
Greenworld
26-04-2022, 11:45 AM
I read a comment from Joe newell that the players would be happy with SDG as manager . I bet they would after that performance against St mirren .
As a mun united fan of 50 years Roy Kean both excites and scares me . Could he be a manager in the old mould leaving the coaching to others?
It would be a hell of a roller coaster ride .
My head is screaming No its not the right appointment?
Then I'm back to well what is the right appointment.
If you look at the list of Hibs managers going back 20 years most are awful.
**** it let's go for the ride the club will generate fortunes on the back of him and who knows we might even win some games
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Since452
26-04-2022, 11:45 AM
Anyone down in London able to follow Ben and Ian around and see who they're meeting? 👀
hibee-boys
26-04-2022, 11:50 AM
I say get him in for no rationale reason but all I know is that I’ve become bored following/watching Hibs recently and if anything else it’ll stir up some much needed enthusiasm for however long it lasts. What’s the worst that could happen, we’ve gone through countless managers over the past few years anyway, might as well strap ourselves in and enjoy the ride🤷🏼😂
ErinGoBraghHFC
26-04-2022, 11:58 AM
If the club don’t release Roy Keane T-shirts I will be well and truly ****ed off
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on-the-level
26-04-2022, 11:59 AM
I say get him in for no rationale reason but all I know is that I’ve become bored following/watching Hibs recently and if anything else it’ll stir up some much needed enthusiasm for however long it lasts. What’s the worst that could happen, we’ve gone through countless managers over the past few years anyway, might as well strap ourselves in and enjoy the ride🤷🏼😂
I think the very worst that could happen
Is we get rid of any dead wood if he was only with us for a short period.
Very proud man who would defo jump and not need pushed if it wasent working
CapitalGreen
26-04-2022, 12:01 PM
We had him in every interview post the semi congratulating the players after losing to our rivals in a cup semi final.
His assistant tweeting about how proud he was etc.
Wouldn’t get that with Keane.
If his previous record in cups is anything to go by then we won’t need to worry about any post semi final interviews.
WhileTheChief..
26-04-2022, 12:02 PM
Keane has made an arse of himself countless times. His aggression isn't fantasy stuff, it's recorded for posterity!
I'm really going to try to keep away from this subject now. (Try? There is no try).
#AnnounceGuardiola.
Just when you thought you were out, we pull you back in!!
Over 10 years ago. Probably closer to 20 if you're talking about tackles on the pitch?
Off the pitch, he had a go at the Irish set-up in the World Cup a decade ago, but other than that, what outbursts, controversy or arguments has he been involved in? I'm not trying to be wide, I'm just not aware of any of this stuff.
et_hibby
26-04-2022, 12:04 PM
My thoughts exactly, supporting Hibs these days has become a chore, appointing Keane would brighten the place up for a bit.
It would make the place exciting for a while, who knows how long but it would change the way i certainly feel about the club.
:top marks
basehibby
26-04-2022, 12:07 PM
Does it not matter if he’s any good?
Keane's record is not at all bad though - took Sunderland up to the EPL and kept them up. True Ipswich didnt work out.
He is experienced at a very high level and, truth is, if he was in the midst of a hot streak of managerial form we would have zero chance of landing him.
He has had a long break from management but is keen to get back into it - the way I see it that guarantees a high level of passion and commitment from a guy who is known for his passion and commitment. We could have a highly motivated manager who will command respect and help attract quality players.
Of course it may not work out (there are never any guarantees) but this is an opportunity which wont come round again. I say throw the dice and get him in.
Hibbyradge
26-04-2022, 12:08 PM
Just when you thought you were out, we pull you back in!!
Over 10 years ago. Probably closer to 20 if you're talking about tackles on the pitch?
Off the pitch, he had a go at the Irish set-up in the World Cup a decade ago, but other than that, what outbursts, controversy or arguments has he been involved in? I'm not trying to be wide, I'm just not aware of any of this stuff.
Don't you watch Sky sports, Don Corleone?
G15 Hibs
26-04-2022, 12:13 PM
Don't you watch Sky sports, Don Corleone?
Sky Sports is in the entertainment business though, isn't it? He's paid to be that guy. Beyond the gruff, Mr Angry character he comes across to me as a thoughtful, intelligent man. When you look at the managers he played for, specifically Clough and Ferguson, both had a public image but that wasn't the full story for either.
All this talk obout Roy Keane coming to Hibs, what's it based on?
I just can't see it happening, purely paper, social media talk.
lucky
26-04-2022, 12:19 PM
Out of all the names mentioned since Lenny left he’s got to be the biggest box office we could get. He’s played at the highest level and managed in the EPL and Championship and coached at International level. Hibs won’t attract a better candidate on paper. I like idea that Hibs will coverage across the Uk and Ireland and he might actually deliver even if it’s for a short time. It’s got to be better that the drivel Maloney served up
GreenGray
26-04-2022, 12:20 PM
If his previous record in cups is anything to go by then we won’t need to worry about any post semi final interviews.
He managed Sunderland and Ipswich? We’re they ever going to go far in cups?
G15 Hibs
26-04-2022, 12:28 PM
All this talk obout Roy Keane coming to Hibs, what's it based on?
I just can't see it happening, purely paper, social media talk.
If there was nothing in it at all he'd never have been mentioned. He never had been before and has been out of management for so long he'd not even be thought of as a wild rumour. So I'd say there's a kernel of truth in it. How realistic it is, or whether it's an agent using Hibs for getting his name out as being interested in getting back into management, is a different matter.
erin go bragh
26-04-2022, 12:29 PM
Out of all the names mentioned since Lenny left he’s got to be the biggest box office we could get. He’s played at the highest level and managed in the EPL and Championship and coached at International level. Hibs won’t attract a better candidate on paper. I like idea that Hibs will coverage across the Uk and Ireland and he might actually deliver even if it’s for a short time. It’s got to be better that the drivel Maloney served up
He’s the clear even money favourite at the bookies now 🤔
LaMotta
26-04-2022, 12:32 PM
Excellent sarcasm, but that's always the criteria we aim for. We don't always get it, but starting off wanting less than the best is, er, accepting mediocrity.
By the way, shouting at players isn't the issue. It's an ability to manage players with different motivational needs.
Paul Gasgoine was one of the best midfielders I ever saw in the flesh, both for Spurs and for the Huns. He wouldn't have responded well to a confrontational, aggressive approach.
The perception I have of Keane is that he's a driven individual which is good, but when things don't go his way, he becomes one dimensional with a single approach to people.
I will concede that the mere fact that I've replied to so many posts does go to show that his name has generated interest, even if a lot of it is negative.
Hopefully Hibs will stop the speculation soon with news of an appointment.
Just a wee joke:greengrin
I understand the negatives I really do. But some of his crticis on here ( not suggesting you) really appear to be unwilling to admit that there are some obvious positives to weigh up against the negatives.
LaMotta
26-04-2022, 12:34 PM
He managed Sunderland and Ipswich? We’re they ever going to go far in cups?
:agree: The cups are far less important to the majority of clubs and fans in England, where progression up the leagues trumps everything due to the financial prizes on offer.
Turkish Green
26-04-2022, 12:34 PM
In what way? What is he like away from the screen?
My lad was only 14 and his first time away from home. Keane would watch all his youth games and took the time to learn all the boys' names. My son looked up to him.
Hibbyradge
26-04-2022, 12:43 PM
Just a wee joke:greengrin
I understand the negatives I really do. But some of his crticis on here ( not suggesting you) really appear to be unwilling to admit that there are some obvious positives to weigh up against the negatives.
There are positives, but they're mostly not football related or based on pure hope.
Don't get me wrong, I totally understand why folk are excited but in the cold light of day, it's a risk I'd rather we didn't take.
I doubt Hibs would be able to meet his demands anyway, even if he really is interested in the job and isn't just using us to publicise his availability.
JimBHibees
26-04-2022, 12:49 PM
My lad was only 14 and his first time away from home. Keane would watch all his youth games and took the time to learn all the boys' names. My son looked up to him.
Sounds good thanks for sharing
Since452
26-04-2022, 12:51 PM
Interesting video on Keane potentially joining Sunderland (if you can stand Micha Richards).
https://youtu.be/1AfTW7D5PhY
snedzuk
26-04-2022, 12:59 PM
If the club don’t release Roy Keane T-shirts I will be well and truly ****ed off
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Picture of Keane with 'take that you c***' under it.
ErinGoBraghHFC
26-04-2022, 01:18 PM
Picture of Keane with 'take that you c***' under it.
Or a really grumpy looking picture and “do me a favour”
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Springbank
26-04-2022, 01:36 PM
I saw someone speculating that Keane might be using Hibs to amplify his seriousness and availability to the wider football scene
TBH I don't think he needs to, and I don't think that's what's happening with all the rumours
But if anything, it might be Hibs who gain from the speculation.
Instead of the press talking about "trigger happy Hibs" and "coaches would be wary of the hire-and-fire culture" that we had a day or two of last week, we now have the UK press and social media talking about Keane being interested in an attractive job.
If you're an Ollie Gunnar Solskjaer or a John Dahl Tommasson or maybe even a Kjetil Knudsen, I reckon you're more likely to pick up on Roy Keane being interested than if the story was still stuck at the "poor wee Shaun" chat of last week.
Just my take - I think we benefit from Keane's interest, it makes us more box office to other potential managers
badabing67
26-04-2022, 01:37 PM
If Roy Keane gets the job do you think there will only be 1 Keane at ER. Cause i have been wondering what the other Keane's input has been.
Since452
26-04-2022, 01:38 PM
I saw someone speculating that Keane might be using Hibs to amplify his seriousness and availability to the wider football scene
TBH I don't think he needs to, and I don't think that's what's happening with all the rumours
But if anything, it might be Hibs who gain from the speculation.
Instead of the press talking about "trigger happy Hibs" and "coaches would be wary of the hire-and-fire culture" that we had a day or two of last week, we now have the UK press and social media talking about Keane being interested in an attractive job.
If you're an Ollie Gunnar Solskjaer or a John Dahl Tommasson or maybe even a Kjetil Knudsen, I reckon you're more likely to pick up on Roy Keane being interested than if the story was still stuck at the "poor wee Shaun" chat of last week.
Just my take - I think we benefit from Keane's interest, it makes us more box office to other potential managers
I agree and have thought the same. The speculation in the press has already elevated Hibs hugely and will have other managers trying to get in there first.
Bobby's Cinema
26-04-2022, 01:42 PM
https://youtu.be/_1FqQwgMZtg
brilliant watch :top marks
Alex Trager
26-04-2022, 01:51 PM
I saw someone speculating that Keane might be using Hibs to amplify his seriousness and availability to the wider football scene
TBH I don't think he needs to, and I don't think that's what's happening with all the rumours
But if anything, it might be Hibs who gain from the speculation.
Instead of the press talking about "trigger happy Hibs" and "coaches would be wary of the hire-and-fire culture" that we had a day or two of last week, we now have the UK press and social media talking about Keane being interested in an attractive job.
If you're an Ollie Gunnar Solskjaer or a John Dahl Tommasson or maybe even a Kjetil Knudsen, I reckon you're more likely to pick up on Roy Keane being interested than if the story was still stuck at the "poor wee Shaun" chat of last week.
Just my take - I think we benefit from Keane's interest, it makes us more box office to other potential managers
I never considered that before.
Good point
et_hibby
26-04-2022, 01:52 PM
If Roy Keane gets the job do you think there will only be 1 Keane at ER. Cause i have been wondering what the other Keane's input has been.
Don't like their music and don't want them playing a gig at Easter Road. :na na:
Chorley Hibee
26-04-2022, 02:09 PM
Make this happen Hibs!
My concern now is that if it isn't Roy Keane, whoever takes over will be seen as an underwhelming choice.
Leaves the board with a difficult dilemma.
sleeping giant
26-04-2022, 02:11 PM
They've been talking about it on TalkSport.
Jim White this morning and Gordon Smart this afternoon.
They were talking up Hibs and Edinburgh in general.
Bushwoof
26-04-2022, 02:15 PM
The more I think about it, the more 'Keane' I am. His managerial record is a mixed bag, it's not consistently awful. But his sheer status and profile simply trumps any of that. The interest and excitement we already see surrounding his potential appointment would be likely to translate into a huge boost in ST sales. And an extra 2-3 thousand interested and excited Hibs fans is exactly what we are crying out for just now. That sort of crowd could be worth a dozen points - enough to offset a fair amount of managerial failings.
Going to ER is like visiting a dull library at the moment (I've been to libraries with more happening than at ER). Keane would change that.
JXM73
26-04-2022, 02:16 PM
https://youtu.be/6nGkafx3-Ks
Sign him up, he's even admitting to meaning it... how many jambos have we wanted do that to over the years ....
chookyembra
26-04-2022, 02:32 PM
I would have some real serious concerns about him becoming our manager.
He last managed 11 years ago and spent huge amounts of money at both Ipswich and Sunderland where he achieved nothing and put them in debt from which they are still trying to recover.
His man management skills are terrible e.g. when managing with the ROI squad he slagged a player off (Arter?) at a training session who then told him to **** off in front of the whole squad.
He spent 5 months as assistant at both Notts Forest and Villa - why assistant - why did he leave after such a short time and what did he achieve?
I would rather we became famous for the way we play with flair and passion than because we have a hotheaded mouthpiece as a manger who might sell a few t-shirts.
If it wasn’t Roy Keane and we were looking at someone else with that managerial record, this place would be in meltdown.
Hibby-G
26-04-2022, 02:40 PM
It's a yes from me.
Although his record at Ipswich was poor, history shows that so have most managers been during their time there. He took Sunderland from the relegation zone in the Championship, one win in five, to winning the league. All be it, they were probably expected to.
Yes, he hasn't managed in ten or so years, but the guy literally watches and analyses football for a living, in which he will have learnt a lot. Plus he's not been completely away from the game (Assistant manager at Villa, ROI, Forest etc).
He also brings character, something this club is massively lacking in at the moment.
Bobby's Cinema
26-04-2022, 02:57 PM
I would have some real serious concerns about him becoming our manager.
He last managed 11 years ago and spent huge amounts of money at both Ipswich and Sunderland where he achieved nothing and put them in debt from which they are still trying to recover.
His man management skills are terrible e.g. when managing with the ROI squad he slagged a player off (Arter?) at a training session who then told him to **** off in front of the whole squad.
He spent 5 months as assistant at both Notts Forest and Villa - why assistant - why did he leave after such a short time and what did he achieve?
I would rather we became famous for the way we play with flair and passion than because we have a hotheaded mouthpiece as a manger who might sell a few t-shirts.
If it wasn’t Roy Keane and we were looking at someone else with that managerial record, this place would be in meltdown.
But it is Roy Keane though.
Hibernia&Alba
26-04-2022, 03:05 PM
I'm just in, what's the latest?
SlickShoes
26-04-2022, 03:11 PM
I'm just in, what's the latest?
The latest is that this has been good PR for Roy, and it's given Hibs some breathing space to find someone while everyone is focused on this.
WhileTheChief..
26-04-2022, 03:13 PM
Make this happen Hibs!
My concern now is that if it isn't Roy Keane, whoever takes over will be seen as an underwhelming choice.
Leaves the board with a difficult dilemma.
Yeah, this is definitely a worry.
Easy answer is to go and get him, or, aim higher and make sure you get your man!!
If we go for a cheap, inexperienced guy then the board deserves any flak that comes their way.
They'll have seen the excitement on social media. They've got to deliver now :greengrin
SHODAN
26-04-2022, 03:13 PM
Aye ok then let's do it.
CropleyWasGod
26-04-2022, 03:14 PM
I'm just in, what's the latest?
RK has said that he'd build a team around Lewis Stevenson.
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