Maloney Gone

[BoomtownHibees]

As it says

[Northernhibee]

Carlsberg Tuesdays!

[madhatter]

We'll be lucky to get a manager. We don't give any a chance.

Hired a rookie manager and sacked him within 6-7 months.

[CL0762]

We are a ****ing mess right now.

[Libby Hibby]

Wow

[TelaStella]

Hahahahaha for **** sake


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[SHODAN]

Lol

[we are hibs]

Whoever appointed him should be gone too

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[JohnM1875]

What a mess we're in right now. Embarrassing.

[madhatter]

Genuinely puts me off renewing my ST. Hibs are a complete an utter mess, stabbing around in the dark constantly.

We're the club to follow if you enjoy comedy and drama.

[BoomtownHibees]

What a mess

[B.H.F.C]

Despite how bad it’s been I didn’t see that coming.

I still think we have bigger issues than the manager as it stands - how can we trust those that are in charge to make the correct decisions to sort things out.

[JohnM1875]

Can't see anyone dying to take the job considering how quickly you're punted by the owner.

[Heisenberg]

I’m shocked to be honest. Kensell needs to go to and we’d do well to appoint someone capable of taking charge of the football department again. Kensell is a businessman.

[Stokesy's on fire]

Good news

[Broxburn Greens]

Not overly surprised but thought the performance on Saturday despite the result would buy him time.

Steady experienced hands needed now please.

[Swedish hibee]

Shocked in Sweden!

[madhatter]

Who the hell is going to apply to be Hibs manager?

Build a club philosophy, aye right, how's that going to happen when we keep sacking managers?

How long has Simeone been at Atletico Madrid? We're supposedly trying to copy them.

Who are we appointing? Dick Campbell?

[Steve88]

Wtf!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Since452]

Brilliant. Club have seen sense. Right Ron. Over to you. Get a manager in please.

[weecounty hibby]

What a ****ing mess we are making of things just now.

[Northernhibee]

Sacking the wrong manager is a good thing, appointing the wrong one is not acceptable twice in a row.

Over to you Ben.

[BroxburnHibee]

If Kensell appointed him then he needs to go too.

[Scottie]

Needed to happen. Poor appointment but on we go.

[Daily Hibs]

YA BEAUTY :thumbsup:

Get the others out who have been at the club too long as well.

Great news on a Tuesday.

[Hibernian Verse]

What a ****ing mess.

Gordon out too, guys a prick.

[Jones28]

If Kensell appointed him then he needs to go too.

I'd lose absolutely no sleep if this were to happen.

[PiemanP]

Come back Jack Ross, all is forgiven.

[Pedantic_Hibee]

Padlock the gates. It’s been one hell of a ride, gentlemen.

[Hannah_hfc]

This just screams out that the club have hit panic buttons. Not a good sign.

Should have at least had summer to build his own team.


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[madhatter]

Come back Jack Ross, all is forgiven.

He can get lost. We are in this mess partly due to him.

[SaulGoodman]

Absolutely pointless

[SHODAN]

This just screams out that the club have hit panic buttons. Not a good sign.

Should have at least had summer to build his own team.


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Feels more to me like it is obvious it wasn't working out, and sacking him now gives us plenty time to identify and hire a replacement who'll have a whole summer to evaluate the squad and get his own players in.

[Ray Donovan]

I wanted him to go. I am surprised he has. The results and performances have been shambolic though.

As had been said already we are in a mess.

Full on reboot needed in the summer.

[Smartie]

Very surprised we’ve done this but not at all disappointed.

[eastmainsmsh]

He had to go and so should kensell and hope a rich Arab buys out the soccer boys

[loanheadhibby]

We'll be lucky to get a manager. We don't give any a chance.

Hired a rookie manager and sacked him within 6-7 months.

I know what you're saying but if the powers think he's not going to turn things around they've got to act.
Disappointing but hopefully the correct decision.

[Charlie123]

Kevin Thomson?


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[madhatter]

Do we sack David Gray if we finish 10th or get dragged into playoff?

[500miles]

18 weeks. What a mess.

Sacking Ross, hiring Maloney and then signing a bunch of newly graduated youth players. It should be Kensell getting the bullet.

[Stokesy's on fire]

I’m shocked to be honest. Kensell needs to go to and we’d do well to appoint someone capable of taking charge of the football department again. Kensell is a businessman.


He sure does i notice that Ron Gordon was the one with the comments rather than BK.

[MWHIBBIES]

Surprised but had to happen. Wasn't working. Dreadful appointment and he was hung out to dry. You do not appoint rookies mid season.

[ScottB]

Between fluffing a top 6 finish, missing out on European football millions that Hearts now get and then paying off an entire coaching team barely into their 3 year contracts, Ron better be digging into his savings.

[Coco Bryce]

Terrible appointment from the off.

Kensell needs to go also.

[SHODAN]

Kevin Thomson?


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Nah. He can find his stepping stone somewhere else.

[lyonhibs]

Ffs. The merry go round continues

[Jones28]

Kevin Thomson?


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No, no, no, no, no.

[Shrekko]

Think this is (now) the right move but was what I was worried about when we sacked Ross- revolving door about to start.

Who do they get who'll appease fans who didn't want a "steady hand" type or a "modern" coach either?

The one's who made the appointment are the real culprits here.

[Jones28]

Caldwell, Zukas and Doogan all away too.

[confused]

More money down the tubes , what a disaster we are all these future players now going to have to go , honestly we couldn’t run a raffle ,

[.Sean.]

Terrible appointment from the off.

Kensell needs to go also.
Absolutely. I certainly don’t trust him to make the correct next appointment.

I really don’t like the direction the club is moving in at the minute. A rudderless shambles from top to bottom

[Helensburghhibs]

Wow. No wonder they laugh at us. We should maybe try supporting a manager once in a while

[Coach Jon]

Totally clueless, was embarrasing watching him standing on the touchline bereft of ideas how to win a game of football.
Hopefully Caldwell is booted out as well.

[Sylar]

'No further comment will be made at this time'.

No, 'we thank Shaun for his services' or well-wishes for the future - has something else happened behind the scenes?

[madhatter]

Right if we are doing this again - get an experienced foreign manager.

Don't go down the ex-Hibs, random Scottish/British manager route. Knowledge of Scottish football is just rubbish - Ange proves that.

[KWJ]

We're becoming the Watford of Scotland.

I had hoped he'd maybe stood down on his own accord but it's clear from the Hibs statement that's not the case.

David Gray in charge to the end of the season.

[Jones28]

Gray confirmed as leading the team for the rest of the season.

[fiolex1]

Quote from our chairmen
“Our hope in appointing Shaun Maloney as a young, highly regarded coach was that he would help us take the club forward, but ultimately thwart has not been the case”

[Antifa Hibs]

This just screams out that the club have hit panic buttons. Not a good sign.

Should have at least had summer to build his own team.


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Sacking Jack Ross was hitting the panic button. No idea what this is. Its beyond parody. The board are absolutely ****ing clueless.

[BILLYHIBS]

What a shambles

Would love to be a fly on the wall at Easter Road

Next!

[overdrive]

Terrible appointment from the off.

Kensell needs to go also.

Absolutely this. Ian Gordon too but I can’t see that happening.

We absolutely must get the right appointment this time.

[Alvin]

Farcical. Surely as an owner you’ve got to back your judgement after appointing a young manager to at least give him a summer transfer window. If the club is going to sack a manager every time they see some fans moaning about him on the message boards and social media they’ll be going through managers at a rate of 3 a season and we’ll be a laughing stock. Ah, hang on, we’re there already.

[Ozyhibby]

Advice for the new manager, if you don’t sort out centre mid in the summer then you’ll be gone by October.


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[fiolex1]

Quote from our chairmen
“Our hope in appointing Shaun Maloney as a young, highly regarded coach was that he would help us take the club forward, but ultimately thwart has not been the case”

Typing without glasses on!

[Brightside]

Another failed experiment? Get the CEO out this club asap. Stick to sun beds and snake oil.

[Northernhibee]

Wow. No wonder they laugh at us. We should maybe try supporting a manager once in a while

What has he shown to suggest he’s worth supporting?

[Green_one]

He sure does i notice that Ron Gordon was the one with the comments rather than BK.

Kensell out. Never liked him. He took us here. Nightmare.


Time for David Gray to be the hero again for the rest of the season, I presume. Need to make sure the next guy is the right guy

We need to tighten our belts and get behind the team for the next 5 games We might sleepwalk to a disaster

[overdrive]

'No further comment will be made at this time'.

No, 'we thank Shaun for his services' or well-wishes for the future - has something else happened behind the scenes?

He’s thanked in the paragraph prior to the bit about David Gray.

[04Sauzee]

Wasn't keen on him getting sacked but if Ben has now sacked 2 managers he should be looked at also.

[Jamesie]

One for the stattos: potentially our second shortest lived manager after Sauzee?

[the_ginger_hibee]

Brilliant decision made.

Despite some apologists in the support, at least we know that Ron won't be happy just winning 'Best Vocalists' at Hampden.

Kensell will be on thin ice rightly so but the club are taking steps to that next level. And don't kid yourselves, plenty people still lined up for jobs at Hearts and other basket case clubs when they were sacking managers monthly, we have made the right call and plenty top managers will be interested in the job.

SDG to see us safe and the summer looks brighter already. Had 0 faith in Maloney building a team.

[SlickShoes]

Well I think we now know that Ron is absolutely ruthless.

[Dashing Bob S]

Terrible decision making from Gordon.

[Tambo]

Was nit expecting that news when I arrived to work and got on wifi.

Has he left or been sacked? BBC reporting he has left asking with Caldwell, Zuddas and Brian Doogan.

Right Ron now has a good few months before getting it right this time? I'm happy to keep SDG untill then end of the season.

[Sir David Gray]

I think this is the correct decision but I am still quite shocked.

Where do we go from here?

Personally think our CEO should be packing his bags too.

Really concerned about us right now.

[Charlie123]

Right if we are doing this again - get an experienced foreign manager.

Don't go down the ex-Hibs, random Scottish/British manager route. Knowledge of Scottish football is just rubbish - Ange proves that.

Couldn’t agree more. No more “club legends” or ex players. Need someone to grab the club by the scruff of the neck and re build. Mass clear out of players needed.


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[tonyrougier123]

No one should kid themselves had to happen.

Wrong experiment at wrong time.
Team is soft and has driving force,it’s slow ponderous and eye bleeding.
I wish him the best hope he finds his feet in another post deserves a shot at another project.

[MikeyS]

Who the hell is going to apply to be Hibs manager?

Build a club philosophy, aye right, how's that going to happen when we keep sacking managers?

How long has Simeone been at Atletico Madrid? We're supposedly trying to copy them.

Who are we appointing? Dick Campbell?

Drama queen much?? There will be hundreds of managers interested in this job. Getting the right one is the hard part and am not sure Kensell is up to the task

[JamesHFC]

Results driven business so understandable decision although I would have given him the summer. Two managers sacked in one season, embarrassing.

[G15 Hibs]

'No further comment will be made at this time'.

No, 'we thank Shaun for his services' or well-wishes for the future - has something else happened behind the scenes?

"Executive Chairman Ronald J Gordon commented: “Our hope in appointing Shaun Maloney as a young, highly regarded coach was that he would help us take the club forward, but ultimately it didn't work out.

“We thank Shaun and his coaching staff for all their hard work and efforts and wish them all the best for the future.”

[hibee_girl]

Kevin Thomson?


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Absolutely not

[hibeesjoe]

Nice to see that his backroom staff have left too. Hopefully Sir Davey gets a few wins in the games left

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[Johnny_Leith]

Maloney didn't show enough to be given the summer. Our form is relegation form since he took over.

It's the right call by the club for me. You could see the thought process and intent of his appointment but the fact we couldn't get a win and performances were very poor, it would have been madness to back him with a summer window.

Be tempted to sound out if Neil Warnock is committed to his recent retirement, he'd get us pulling in the same direction and create a siege mentality, and the myth he doesn't play good football is farcical.

[SlickShoes]

Farcical. Surely as an owner you’ve got to back your judgement after appointing a young manager to at least give him a summer transfer window. If the club is going to sack a manager every time they see some fans moaning about him on the message boards and social media they’ll be going through managers at a rate of 3 a season and we’ll be a laughing stock. Ah, hang on, we’re there already.

Equally, if something is not working, then cutting your losses and not smashing your head against a wall makes sense too.

[GordonHFC]

Our senior management team have lost the plot. None of them have any idea how to run a football club. Having a nice hospitality area and shiny new big screens is all good and well but if you don't spen the money on a recruitment team that know what they are doing and have the financial backing then what is the point. Giving the supporters a good match day experience starts with the football on the park. The rest is superficial. We are being fleeced.

[Brooster]

The right thing to do. Makes way for Lennon and Brown.

[Pagan Hibernia]

We'll be lucky to get a manager. We don't give any a chance.

Hired a rookie manager and sacked him within 6-7 months.

6-7 months? It’s four.

club’s a mess

[MWHIBBIES]

Advice for the new manager, if you don’t sort out centre mid in the summer then you’ll be gone by October.


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Tbf, you told us Alex Gogic would do that 2 years ago, so I can't see the new manager taking your advice

[fiolex1]

Who’s next

[itslegaltender]

This just screams out that the club have hit panic buttons. Not a good sign.

Should have at least had summer to build his own team.


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Problem now is that players will be getting signed in pre contracts and we will have an interim manager in charge. New one coming in will be trying to recruit behind every other club.

[Pretty Boy]

The writing was on the wall but I feel a bit sorry for him. Not because I believe he deserved a lot more time, results and performances have been woeful but because he was trying to manage a team against the backdrop of a club that is a shambles.

The next manager is going to have to deal with the same structure that isn't set up to deliver what we as fans want and certainly not what the club claims to be striving for. I'd wager now that we will be sitting here having the same discussions about whoever is next in under a years time.

I posted on the recruitment thread that we have to get back to a formula that worked. A CEO and Director of Football who know the Scottish game, a head of recruitment who is actually qualified for the role and a Head Coach. It's a huge summer for Hibs and I don't trust the owner, CEO or head of recruitment to deliver. Not because they are up to anything dodgy, they just don't have a clue.

[FilipinoHibs]

Gray and May to steady the ship. Gives us time to get the appointment right. You don't mess with US bosses.

[Since452]

Well I think we now know that Ron is absolutely ruthless.

I was worried he wasn't going to be as ruthless with Maloney. Correct decision but shouldn't have been appointed in the first place.

[happiehibbie]

When I first saw the appointment I thought it was a good one. After his first game I changed my mind.

I had a directors husband in at my workplace month or so ago I did not know who he was until he told me I said then " your wife and other directors must be thinking should we stick or twist" he seem to agree. He told me some big names applied for the job and interviewed before SM got the nod.

I think Ron is brave by saying it did not work out.

The football has been stinking. He looked out of his depth IMO.

This has cost Hibs a fortune being in the bottom six was never a goal.

SM started blaming previous staff never a good sign.

Managers and players come and go but the supporters always stay.

In my view RG is pumping in his own money watching the same **** as us I hope he gets it right.

[MikeyS]

Who’s next

They need to take their time here and probably let Gray, May & McGregor just run things til end of season

[Mcbizz1998]

I was extremely surprised we sacked Ross before the final - I am absolutely stunned we have now sacked Maloney after what, 18 weeks?

I had no faith in him so I’m glad he is gone but it makes it seem that we are completely rudderless and bereft of ideas. Unbelievable.

[May21/05/216]

That's a shocking decision

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[madhatter]

Drama queen much?? There will be hundreds of managers interested in this job. Getting the right one is the hard part and am not sure Kensell is up to the task

Drama queen? You're kidding, right? I think a man being sacked from his job has just about got some grown men's knickers out of a twist.

[Paulie Walnuts]

What a shambles.

Not sure who we’ll be going for now as there’s nobody stands out as someone I’d want in. Usually there’s someone you at least think will be in their with the favourites but I can’t think of anybody.

Will also be interesting to see the type of manager we’re after. I’m not sure someone will fancy coming into Hibs tasked with completely changing our style like Maloney was as they’ll see you’re not getting any time to do that. Makes you wonder if it’ll be a McInnes type appointment we’re looking at to steady the ship so to speak.

The rest of the club isn’t set up for success. The new manager is going to have to be given a ton of money to sort this out. If they aren’t then I don’t see things being all that much different to how they’ve been this season.

[Mr Grieves]

He had to go but what an absolutely shambolic season overseen by the Gordons and Kensell

[Charlie123]

I was extremely surprised we sacked Ross before the final - I am absolutely stunned we have now sacked Maloney after what, 18 weeks?

I had no faith in him so I’m glad he is gone but it makes it seem that we are completely rudderless and bereft of ideas. Unbelievable.

Should have stuck out with Ross tbh. Panic button was hit.


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[SaulGoodman]

When I first saw the appointment I thought it was a good one. After his first game I changed my mind.
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The first game was a 1-0 win at home against Aberdeen and by all accounts I thought we looked good. There was none of the aimless passing around defence that typified Maloneys reign.

[MikeyS]

Drama queen? You're kidding, right? I think a man being sacked from his job has just about got some grown men's knickers out of a twist.

Yes, drama queen. You said we won't get a new manager cos the way Maloney has been treated. That's very dramatic!

[LeithMike]

Surprised but had to happen. Wasn't working. Dreadful appointment and he was hung out to dry. You do not appoint rookies mid season.Agree. If you appoint a novice you have to be prepared to let them learn on the job. This makes the board look extremely amateurish. What did they expect when appointing a first time manager?

An experienced manager with a proven track record to run the whole club and bring it together please.

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[hibee-boys]

That's a shocking decision

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I’d say it was a surprise but hardly shocking, it’s been an horrendous run of results with zero light at the end of the tunnel either.

[IberianHibernian]

Shocking decision . Cash from 2 cup runs being used to pay off 2 management teams at a time when we need big investment in squad . Only positive I can see is getting a new manager in summer since starting mid season is always harder . 2 sackings in short time is bound to make serious managers who want to build a successful team think twice before applying .

[AL-Qaholik]

Sean Dyche, anyone?
Or Chris Hughton, if BK is gonna try to save his own job by going with what he knows…?

[Pagan Hibernia]

Can this season just end now please

[Antifa Hibs]

2 managers/first team coaches on the payroll I'm assuming now, soon to be 3 when the new person is appointed.

If this is BK's doing get him to huck aswell.

[hibee-boys]

The right thing to do. Makes way for Lennon and Brown.

I’d take those 2 in a heart beat, are their rumours about this? Thought Lennon had a gig already?🤔

[Since90+2]

Sean Dyche, anyone?
Or Chris Hughton, if BK is gonna try to save his own job by going with what he knows…?

Not a chance Dyche would come to us.

[madhatter]

Yes, drama queen. You said we won't get a new manager cos the way Maloney has been treated. That's very dramatic!

I never said that, I said who would apply? We want to be going in an upward trajectory and I don't think repeatedly sacking managers helps with that. We are literally burning cash at the moment.

[JeMeSouviens]

As much as I think Maloney was probably the wrong appointment, I don't have any confidence that the same set of decision makers are going to get the next one right.

Bloody hell.

[hibeedonald]

Would have given him until at least the summer.

Didn't realise he had a 3.5 year contract... surely that's going to cost us big time? Unless we had a clause about a top 6 finish?

[JeMeSouviens]

Would have given him until at least the summer.

Didn't realise he had a 3.5 year contract... surely that's going to cost us big time? Unless we had a clause about a top 6 finish?

If he did, he should be binning his agent this morning.

[hibee-boys]

Shocking decision . Cash from 2 cup runs being used to pay off 2 management teams at a time when we need big investment in squad . Only positive I can see is getting a new manager in summer since starting mid season is always harder . 2 sackings in short time is bound to make serious managers who want to build a successful team think twice before applying .

It won’t phase managers who back themselves, what was it, 1 league win in 15 attempts?🤔

[madhatter]

I’d take those 2 in a heart beat, are their rumours about this? Thought Lennon had a gig already?🤔

Do we know when Ron Gordon plans to change Hibernian FC to Nostalgia FC?

[hfc-1875]

Although I wasn’t a fan at all, I’m really surprised at the timing. We’re out the cup now obviously, bottom 6 confirmed nothing to play for I thought he would have got the summer window and a pre season and start of next season to see if there’s any improvement.

Who will we see in the running for it now?

[Brummie_Hibs]

...player revolt.... :cool2:

[Colr]

As it says

Chaotic bloody club.

All over the place!

[h185forever]

Constant change helps no one … it might create the illusion of progress but it isn’t
some people on here will not be happy with whoever we appoint so well done to them .
Whoever comes in needs everyone behind him because success isn’t going to magically appear .

so get yer big boy pants on and buckle in.

support the team, the club, the manager and GGTTH

if you’re not prepared to do that, then buy a maroon cardie and do one

[A Hi-Bee]

Equally, if something is not working, then cutting your losses and not smashing your head against a wall makes sense too.

It's the American way, dont know if many on here have worked direct for American businesses but they are ruthless. I say he needs to get rid of Kensell as well, then bring back Lenny, with Scott Brown as assistant, lets go for the real roller-coaster and back him with the cash he will need for the big changes required. they would for sure change the soft mentality at Hibs.
GGTTH
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[Paulie Walnuts]

As much as I think Maloney was probably the wrong appointment, I don't have any confidence that the same set of decision makers are going to get the next one right.

Bloody hell.

The club isn’t set up for the next appointment to be right.

We’re saddled with crap players on long contracts, no star players other than potentially Porteous who will be away in the summer and a board who appear to be completely clueless as to what they’re doing or trying to achieve.

I honestly don’t see where we go from here or how the new manager will be able to achieve success at Hibs with the way things are.

[HendoDelivered]

The right thing to do. Makes way for Lennon and Brown.

He’s just got a job in Cyprus though.

[LaMotta]

That's a shocking decision

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It was a shocking decision to appoint him unfortunately.

It was so clear he was out his depth from early on in his tenure.

I spoke to someone at half time on Saturday at Hampden with very close connections to the club and they told me morale amongst the squad was absolutely dreadful under the management team. So I'm not surprised this has happened today.

I dread to think how poor our season tickets sales would have been if Maloney had been allowed to continue. They still might not be be great after all the damage caused this season, but if theres a decent appointment it should help.

[mutley]

Every new manager (and players too I suppose) I want to do well and progress our club, I back them completely until they go.

IMHO I think we had our Cathro moment with Maloney, he talked the talk but some of his decisions were baffling.


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[SlickShoes]

2 managers/first team coaches on the payroll I'm assuming now, soon to be 3 when the new person is appointed.

If this is BK's doing get him to huck aswell.

We are not still paying Ross, I thought the standard contract offered by hibs now was a 3 month pay off?

Of course there could also be a clause for targets not being met, especially since we have won 1 game 13 or something ridiculous like that and dropped into the bottom 6.

[marinello59]

This while thing has been a massively expensive mistake from start to finish. I hope that chancer Kensell is emptying his desk right now as well.

[NC1875]

Glad Gary Caldwell is away more than Maloney tbh. Didn’t have much faith in either of them.

[J-C]

Hibs are a mess right now, Ross deserved time as did Maloney, Gordon running this as a business and not as a football club. Who'll want the job now, poisoned challis, we're a laughing stock now.

[flash]

Our senior management team have lost the plot. None of them have any idea how to run a football club. Having a nice hospitality area and shiny new big screens is all good and well but if you don't spen the money on a recruitment team that know what they are doing and have the financial backing then what is the point. Giving the supporters a good match day experience starts with the football on the park. The rest is superficial. We are being fleeced.
No offence but that's mince. Are you suggesting the stadium should have been left in the state the previous regime had allowed it to get in?

[truehibernian]

2 managers/first team coaches on the payroll I'm assuming now, soon to be 3 when the new person is appointed.

If this is BK's doing get him to huck aswell.

It’s throwing money away that’s for sure. I’m pretty sure however that contracts are only paid for half the year or until they are reemployed elsewhere, whichever is longer (so 6 months max). Or there’s a private settlement agreed.

Still utterly rank rotten management at the top end of our club.

Awful CEO, terrible social media team, absentee owner and an unqualified son in charge of recruiting players 😂all in 2 years !!!! I laugh because I’d cry dwelling on those facts.

[PolmontHibby]

While I was 100% that the Ross sacking was both wrong in itself and the timing, not sure how I feel about the Maloney sacking - despite a complete lack of any evidence that he could make a success of the role (and some third hand chat from those behind the scenes that he was aloof and not interacting with senior players) if I had been asked yesterday I would have said back him though the start of next season.

Now he is gone I have literally no strong opinion on the sacking wither way.....which is maybe more to do with how I feel with the club ownership/senior management at the moment than anything else. It has become more of a soap opera more than a football club this season.

[LewysGot2]

Wow. Although there were lots of voices asking for this to happen it’s still a shock that it has.

I really wanted this to work - what Hibs fan wants the club to fail? However, I had a nagging doubt about any set up involving Gary Caldwell. That leopard hasn’t changed his spots. His involvement had me doubting Maloneys judgement. There’s no doubt Maloney was sounding a bit Cathroesque in some of his interviews. Good coach - very likely. Inspiring leader of men? Not convinced on the evidence.

is this to get a bounce on Saturday and put relegation fears to bed? Ironically at the same ground Eddie May and the senior players took charge after Lennon was binned. Or is it ST sales?

What a season this has been.

[The Spaceman]

What a mess. Complete disaster and, like Jack Ross, feel for Maloney here. Massive knee jerk in a sticky period when a summer playing staff overhaul was always the plan. Who are we lining up as a replacement? My money is on a panic appointment of Derek McInnes.

[Sergio sledge]

It's impossible to say definitively, but I reckon if the club had done this with Butcher when we slipped into the bottom 6 then we wouldn't have got relegated that season. The way things have been going this season we were slipping towards the same outcome.

Not every managerial appointment works out, just like not every player signed works out. It could be argued that the leadership should be given some credit for recognising that Maloney isn't going to work out before it is too late and acting decisively. Of course they also have to balance that against the blame they should shoulder for getting it wrong in the first place and the massive cost financially this appointment will have been.

I enjoy seeing coaches coming in with different ideas a philosophies and really wanted to see it work well with Maloney but it was becoming pretty clear that it wasn't working and action had to be taken.

The next appointment is massive and shouldn't be rushed, although they'll need to be in pretty quickly to make sure they get a chance at a proper summer transfer window and pre-season.

[LeithMike]

Advice for the new manager, if you don’t sort out centre mid in the summer then you’ll be gone by October.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkSpot on. Since McGeouch and McGinn left it has been a nightmare. That's 4 seasons (regardless of semis, finals finishing position) where it has been poor. JDH may make it as a defensive midfielder but for me Newell is just not a central midfielder and cannot do th job being asked of him (albeit a good footballer).

To get that right we need a manager who knows what he is doing. No gambles please, track record of success.

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[Mcbizz1998]

What a mess. Complete disaster and, like Jack Ross, feel for Maloney here. Massive knee jerk in a sticky period when a summer playing staff overhaul was always the plan. Who are we lining up as a replacement? My money is on a panic appointment of Derek McInnes.

At least McInnes is a proper manager and might have even the faintest clue as to what he is doing.

[BroxburnHibee]

Glad Gary Caldwell is away more than Maloney tbh. Didn’t have much faith in either of them.

Yep the minute he picked him as an assistant was enough for me. Don't want him anywhere near our club again

[Callum_62]

Ex rosenburg manager as weirdly touted in the past few days buy someone on here?

Or do we have to go down the ex hibs connection route?

Bartley and Martindale? [emoji44]



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[madhatter]

I think our January window proves we did not have faith in Maloney to begin with - loan to buy options for most players. Think only Mitchell was a permanent that Maloney wanted.

[Groathillgrump]

I'm relieved Maloney and Caldwell have gone but this failed experiment has left the club looking distinctly amateurish.

Ben Kensell should be following them out the door.

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

Seems harsh on the face of it but when you dig deeper i cant help but feel it's probably the right call.

Said on another thread before the final, we'd actually turned up, playing decent football in 4 of the games under SM (5 now), signing policy was strange with minimal success stories from the lot. Subs were incredibly bizarre

This one is on the club entirely, hiring a rookie manager who had "visions" of playing a certain way needed a pre season and his own players. We'd actually benefit now from appointing someone like that ironically.

[Cropley10]

Spot on. Since McGeouch and McGinn left it has been a nightmare. That's 4 seasons (regardless of semis, finals finishing position) where it has been poor. JDH may make it as a defensive midfielder but for me Newell is just not a central midfielder and cannot do th job being asked of him (albeit a good footballer).

To get that right we need a manager who knows what he is doing. No gambles please, track record of success.

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A ‘track record of success’… ? Dear me… think you’ll be disappointed and then we can start hounding out whoever it is next….

[Turkish Green]

Hibs are a mess right now, Ross deserved time as did Maloney, Gordon running this as a business and not as a football club. Who'll want the job now, poisoned challis, we're a laughing stock now.

There will be a queue of hopefuls but Ron needs to realise that he needs to appoint an experienced coach or ST sales will be disastrous. To what extent does son Ian have in recruitment?

[MWHIBBIES]

Absolutely the right time to do this. New guy gets a preseason.

[Carheenlea]

I never said that, I said who would apply? We want to be going in an upward trajectory and I don't think repeatedly sacking managers helps with that. We are literally burning cash at the moment.

I agree with you.

We are going to have to pay big to get anyone of note to be persuaded to take on the job given the timescales of the Maloney appointment and the sacking of Ross ahead of a Cup Final.

Also going to have to spend big on signing first team ready players who will hit the ground running as any extended poor run of form is going to see you clearing your desk ready for the next man.

Still paying Ross, paying off Maloney and now a new man to pay for. Great stuff Ron :aok:

[Smartie]

The writing was on the wall but I feel a bit sorry for him. Not because I believe he deserved a lot more time, results and performances have been woeful but because he was trying to manage a team against the backdrop of a club that is a shambles.

The next manager is going to have to deal with the same structure that isn't set up to deliver what we as fans want and certainly not what the club claims to be striving for. I'd wager now that we will be sitting here having the same discussions about whoever is next in under a years time.

I posted on the recruitment thread that we have to get back to a formula that worked. A CEO and Director of Football who know the Scottish game, a head of recruitment who is actually qualified for the role and a Head Coach. It's a huge summer for Hibs and I don't trust the owner, CEO or head of recruitment to deliver. Not because they are up to anything dodgy, they just don't have a clue.

This is exactly how I see it.

[Bristolhibby]

Advice for the new manager, if you don’t sort out centre mid in the summer then you’ll be gone by October.


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Good bit of advice, and a proven striker and a Centre half while we are at it.

J

[Mcbizz1998]

Yep the minute he picked him as an assistant was enough for me. Don't want him anywhere near our club again

Absolutely. The fact he appointed Caldwell showed he had no understanding of the fan base. Completely out of touch and clueless from day 1.

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

Ron Gordon and co. Get to **** out of my club with this corporate hire and fire *****, boys hardly had a minute to sit down and take a *****. ****ing disgusted


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[Brooster]

He’s just got a job in Cyprus though.

Told you last week Maloney was going regardless of the cup result. Same source is telling me Lennon and Brown are the preferred option.

[CraigHibee]

This just screams out that the club have hit panic buttons. Not a good sign.

Should have at least had summer to build his own team.


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my thoughts as well

[Paulie Walnuts]

Absolutely. The fact he appointed Caldwell showed he had no understanding of the fan base. Completely out of touch and clueless from day 1.

It really didn’t.

Most Hibs fans couldn’t have really cared less about Caldwell being here or not and Maloney has a working relationship with him. He’s also got experience of being a manager.

The appointment made sense and wasn’t in any way an indication that Maloney was clueless.

[Ozyhibby]

Tbf, you told us Alex Gogic would do that 2 years ago, so I can't see the new manager taking your advice

Gogic did a good job in Ross’s first season and we finished third.[emoji6]


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[A Hi-Bee]

Lenny & Broony, and I will certainly renew my season ticket. Time for Heroes, no zero's need apply.
:aok:

[badabing67]

The right thing to do. Makes way for Lennon and Brown.

Lennon is at a club in Cyprus so we would need to pay compo and we would need Lennon to want to come back. I can't see it happening. I was hoping he was already gonna be here when Ross left. Not that I wanted Ross to leave. I think if Ross was still here would would of got a higher finish. Really bad decision to let Ross go when they did imo.

[Turkish Green]

Time spent recruiting players for the development team when it should have been time spent on recruiting players for the first team. Should never have sacked Ross when they did.

[SHODAN]

Told you last week Maloney was going regardless of the cup result. Same source is telling me Lennon and Brown are the preferred option.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo

[madhatter]

At least McInnes is a proper manager and might have even the faintest clue as to what he is doing.

He's getting chased down by Dick Campbell and the part timers. By that logic we should be after Dick Campbell.

100% experienced foreign manager for me. Club went with Maloney because they want Hibs to play a brand of football that makes us successful in Europe. I don't think they will abandon that, I think they will just want a manager that is more able to deliver on it.

[MWHIBBIES]

It really didn’t.

Most Hibs fans couldn’t have really cared less about Caldwell being here or not and Maloney has a working relationship with him. He’s also got experience of being a manager.

The appointment made sense and wasn’t in any way an indication that Maloney was clueless.

Although appointing an absolutely **** failed manager as assistant to a rookie manager wasn't clever.

[flash]

I agree with you.

We are going to have to pay big to get anyone of note to be persuaded to take on the job given the timescales of the Maloney appointment and the sacking of Ross ahead of a Cup Final.

Also going to have to spend big on signing first team ready players who will hit the ground running as any extended poor run of form is going to see you clearing your desk ready for the next man.

Still paying Ross, paying off Maloney and now a new man to pay for. Great stuff Ron :aok:
We will get hundreds of applicants. Do you really think anyone is ever put off applying because the previous guy got sacked?

[GordonHFC]

No offence but that's mince. Are you suggesting the stadium should have been left in the state the previous regime had allowed it to get in?

What part is mince. You can do a stadium up without spending hundreds of thousands of pounds on corporate facilities. Most supporters turn up 10 minutes before kick off and won't turn up at all if the product on the park is garbage.

[Alvin]

The writing was on the wall but I feel a bit sorry for him. Not because I believe he deserved a lot more time, results and performances have been woeful but because he was trying to manage a team against the backdrop of a club that is a shambles.

The next manager is going to have to deal with the same structure that isn't set up to deliver what we as fans want and certainly not what the club claims to be striving for. I'd wager now that we will be sitting here having the same discussions about whoever is next in under a years time.

I posted on the recruitment thread that we have to get back to a formula that worked. A CEO and Director of Football who know the Scottish game, a head of recruitment who is actually qualified for the role and a Head Coach. It's a huge summer for Hibs and I don't trust the owner, CEO or head of recruitment to deliver. Not because they are up to anything dodgy, they just don't have a clue.

Agreed. The problem with Hibs in the last 18 months has not been the manager but the lack of effective, talented players. Recruitment is the real issue, not the manager. History shows that you finish third place in Scotland because you have two or three players well above the usual SPL non-Rantic standard (as Hearts have this year).

[Real Emerald]

Regardless of anything else we really need to get a manager in as soon as we can to give him a fighting chance of singling the players he needs. Leaving it until the summer will see us in another full season of transition after missing out on targets. Shambles

[A Hi-Bee]

Told you last week Maloney was going regardless of the cup result. Same source is telling me Lennon and Brown are the preferred option.

Now I really would back that, change the club mentality from day one.
:thumbsup:

[Unseen work]

In two minds about it.

Hes had brutal luck with injuries, suspensions etc but even at that the players we have are more than capable of picking up more than one win in 13 league games.

Yes we sold Boyle but no one else had a Martin Boyle, we also had a January window where he was in charge.

Part of me thinks fair play to Gordon because it was clearly a risk getting him and he has accepted it’s not working. He’s setting high standards for the managers, the thing with that though is the recruitment needs to match the standards as at the end of the day the players determine a good manager.

Good luck to SDG, a lot of pressure from now to the end of the season.

[LewysGot2]

Brown was at our last home game, funnily enough. Didn’t think much of it as he takes his kids to ER.

[madhatter]

The right thing to do. Makes way for Lennon and Brown.

I don't think I will renew if that happens. Genuinely think Hibs have a serious problem with living in the past.

[Brooster]

I don't think I will renew if that happens. Genuinely think Hibs have a serious problem with living in the past.

I'm only passing on what I've heard. He got the first bit right.

[LaMotta]

We have been an absolute laughing stock under Maloney.

The reaction this morning to his sacking from other team's fans is telling - they are gutted he's gone.

[AugustaHibs]

I don't think I will renew if that happens. Genuinely think Hibs have a serious problem with living in the past.

Hearts appointed a previous manager in neilson, hasn’t worked out too badly has it?

[madhatter]

I'm only passing on what I've heard. He got the first bit right.

Yeah, not having a go. Just dreading that prospect tbh. Wish we stopped the whole ex-Hibs, British blinkered approach to managerial appointments.

[He's here!]

This feels like Hearts at their most shambolic.

How much faith does anyone have in Ron Gordon to try and build something sustainable at Hibs? A revolving door hire and fire policy in pursuit of instant success will get us nowhere - as well us wasting us vast sums of money in managerial compensation pay-offs as well as saddling us with players on lengthy contracts that the next manager doesn't want.

If this is the sort of working model he's going with then he needs a collective coaching team rather than a series of managers being hung out to dry.

I thought it was a mistake to sack Ross, but I feel sorry for Maloney here. Head-hunted for the job then thrown on the scrapheap.

[The Captain....]

I think it's probably for the best but i'm distinctly unimpressed with the way the club is handling the football side atm.

We're turning into a basket case of a club.

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[Viva_Palmeiras]

If social media is now a barometer (it should never be) then I hope the folks calling for his head are satisfied - you got what you asked for and the door revolves again and we roll the dice. Who would take on the role. One of the brightest prospects in coaching binned. FWIW I think Maloney will go on to have a successful career.

We have now entered the la-la land Aberdeen fans endured post Alex Smith if we’re not careful.

[madhatter]

Hearts appointed a previous manager in neilson, hasn’t worked out too badly has it?

Oh well, guess that makes it a 100% bulletproof blueprint then. When is Maloney due back?

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

I’d take Lennon back but he’s not going to leave Omonoia Nicosia to spend his winters in Edinburgh


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[HFC 0-7]

This is good news. In terms of sacking a manager this is a good time to do it. New manager coming in will have plenty of time to assess and have a summer transfer window. Too often we change a manager too late and the new one coming in inherits a squad and the excuses begin.

Maloneys stubbornness to persist with tactics that are not suited to the players was a major issue.

[Since452]

Ross and Lennon are out for me. We can't live in the past.

[AugustaHibs]

If social media is now a barometer (it should never be) then I hope the folks calling for his head are satisfied - you got what you asked for and the door revolves again and we roll the dice. Who would take on the role. One of the brightest prospects in coaching binned. FWIW I think Maloney will go on to have a successful career.

We have now entered the la-la land Aberdeen fans endured post Alex Smith if we’re not careful.

‘One of the brightest prospects in coaching’


Come on eh.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Although appointing an absolutely **** failed manager as assistant to a rookie manager wasn't clever.

Aye we should have appointed an outstanding manager in their own right as an assistant.

[MWHIBBIES]

Aye we should have appointed an outstanding manager in their own right as an assistant.

Or just an experienced coach like Stubbs did.

[Montford]

Could it be that RG & BK have got word of a windfall arriving in the summer re McGinn?
They might just be clearing out a failed project to give the new arrival a clear path to reinvigorating the club with a decent budget.

[HFC93]

He hasn't been great but he needed a Summer transfer window to shape the team. It's all a bit mental.

[Gordy M]

Yeah, not having a go. Just dreading that prospect tbh. Wish we stopped the whole ex-Hibs, British blinkered approach to managerial appointments.

Outwith the old fitm, what foreign manager has had any success in Scotland? Im not saying dont consider them but it would be a gamble......again.

[MWHIBBIES]

Could it be that RG & BK have got word of a windfall arriving in the summer re McGinn?
They might just be clearing out a failed project to give the new arrival a clear path to reinvigorating the club with a decent budget.

No. We need to stop the nonsense about McGinn. Its not happening

[LeithMike]

Lenny & Broony, and I will certainly renew my season ticket. Time for Heroes, no zero's need apply.
:aok:Lennon started the downward spiral! He really took us forward at first but I just don't think he's cut out for a team that loses a fair amount of games. The last two teams he's been at he's dramatically lost both dressing rooms. That's not really a secure pair of hands.

Give McInnes control and he'll take us forward. Remember he had Aberdeen playing great football with Hayes and McGinn down the flanks. While things went stale for him, I don't see anyone with a record like him. He's also turned Kilmarnock round in a very short space of time.

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[jeffers]

Glad he’s gone. Agree with others though, get Kensell out with him. The guy who went for Maloney when he hadn’t even applied, the guy who told us at the AGM we’d had a brilliant January window if it hadn’t been for the sale of Martin Boyle. I have zero confidence in him to get the next appointment right.

And please no to Lennon, did well initially but left us in an utter shambles.

[Iain G]

Insanity and panic has set in at Hibs, no need to wield the axe now and am genuinely dissapointed he didn't get even half a chance to implement what he wanted to do.

[Northernhibee]

Aye we should have appointed an outstanding manager in their own right as an assistant.

I do think that appointing a talented manager is a good move.

[madhatter]

Outwith the old fitm, what foreign manager has had any success in Scotland? Im not saying dont consider them but it would be a gamble......again.

Every managerial appointment is a gamble.

[Keith_M]

Well, I was definitely NOT expecting that!

[Wakeyhibee]

What a joke !! Wasn't convinced with Mdloney but even less enamored with RG and his team.

[Gordy M]

Every managerial appointment is a gamble.

Yep it is, i notice you havent put forward any names of previohs successful foreign managers though.

[tonyrougier123]

Sean Dyche, anyone?
Or Chris Hughton, if BK is gonna try to save his own job by going with what he knows…?

Dyche would something else like,no chance tbf.

But we could do with a shot in the arm like that.

[Keith_M]

I heard some Hearts Fans singing, 'Hibs are falling apart again' before the game on Saturday.

I find it hard to argue with that.

[G15 Hibs]

Ex rosenburg manager as weirdly touted in the past few days buy someone on here?

Or do we have to go down the ex hibs connection route?

Bartley and Martindale? [emoji44]


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We've not appointed a manager with a previous Hibs connection since Yogi back in 2009. We seem to have moved beyond that now.

[HH81]

Some had posted two defeats v Hearts and it was the end, they were correct.

Got to move on now. Not sure who is available though. 🤔

[madhatter]

Yep it is, i notice you havent put forward any names of previohs successful foreign managers though.

How many British managers have had sustained success at Hibs?

Plenty successful foreign managers in world football. Not many in Scotland outside of the Glasgow 2 because no team outside them hires foreign managers very often.

[Since452]

If social media is now a barometer (it should never be) then I hope the folks calling for his head are satisfied - you got what you asked for and the door revolves again and we roll the dice. Who would take on the role. One of the brightest prospects in coaching binned. FWIW I think Maloney will go on to have a successful career.

We have now entered the la-la land Aberdeen fans endured post Alex Smith if we’re not careful.

We should have appointed him as a coach then. Not a manager.

[ronaldo7]

I've got a feeling that he'll go for a foreign manager this time. Who'd take the job though.

Shambles.

[Keith_M]

I've got a feeling that he'll go for a foreign manager this time. Who'd take the job though.

Shambles.



Who does he currently manage?


:dunno:

[LunasBoots]

Good, no surprise, lost the club a **** tonne of money.

[Gatecrasher]

Feel a bit bad for him but should never had been given the job in the first place. Hibs need to get the next one right or it could be a disaster.

[raeburnhibs]

Every managerial appointment is a gamble.

Every new start in any profession is a gamble to a certain extent, but there are things you can do to mitigate the gamble

[Gordy M]

How many British managers have had sustained success at Hibs?

Plenty successful foreign managers in world football. Not many in Scotland outside of the Glasgow 2 because no team outside them hires foreign managers very often.

Hearts Aberdeen Dundee Utd have all had different foreign managers....none of which were a success....and ask yourself if foreign managers are such a successs then why havent more teams went for them??

[1 8 7 5]

Glad hes gone, and Caldwell too (the latter back at Hibernian has never sat right with me).

Kensell needs punted aswell.

What a shocking season.

[Pagan Hibernia]

I think it's probably for the best but i'm distinctly unimpressed with the way the club is handling the football side atm.

We're turning into a basket case of a club.

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same as this. We’ve been a basket case of a club more than once in my lifetime but what hurts this time is it’s only several years since we were being lauded all over the country as an example of how to run a club. Solid, stable, sustainable, got our recruitment policy right, together with a backbone of committed ‘Hibs people’ in the background who’d been there for years and years. Not to mention the building of bridges with the support and local community.

now we’re the opposite of all of those things.

Ron Gordon, you’ve had three years. You navigated us through covid and I’m thankful for that, and you brought us big screens. But you’ve also overseen a decline in performance on the pitch, a general disillusionment amongst the support and most likely a significant drop in season ticket holders. You need to get some big decisions right and you need to get them right now.

[Slim Shady]

Although appointing an absolutely **** failed manager as assistant to a rookie manager wasn't clever.

Who spat the dummy a a week or so ago and had to be encouraged to return to the club.

[Ryan91]

This type of thing is what lead to us getting relegated last time, no cohesion, no plan, chopping and changing managers with an alarming regularity.

The money being spent on paying off sacked managers is money that could be spent on the playing squad.

We'll be a bottom 6 club again next year

[madhatter]

Hearts Aberdeen Dundee Utd have all had different foreign managers....none of which were a success....and ask yourself if foreign managers are such a successs then why havent more teams went for them??

I'm not claiming they are such a success. We are taking a risk either way. I know Hibs have regularly recruited British managers and, in my lifetime, have almost been entirely unable to keep it together for 2 seasons. John Collins - league cup and then gone. Mowbray - good, then leaves. Ross - good then complete collapse, then gone. List is endless.

It seems that by having a British manager it is assumed we are mitigating some of that risk and I have no idea why. Mowbray wouldn't have known anything about Hibs and our squad at the time he took over. He wouldn't have been watching any Scottish games with any regularity apart from the Old Firm. We were lucky that he and Venus did well. Nothing else, he could easily have been garbage.

Britishness and knowledge of Scottish football has absolutely no correlation with success at Hibs. If anything it has a correlation with failure as we regularly fail and regularly have British managers (normally rookie).

[Northernhibee]

This type of thing is what lead to us getting relegated last time, no cohesion, no plan, chopping and changing managers with an alarming regularity.

The money being spent on paying off sacked managers is money that could be spent on the playing squad.

We'll be a bottom 6 club again next year
What got us relegated was sticking with an incompetent manager in Butcher.

[LunasBoots]

This type of thing is what lead to us getting relegated last time, no cohesion, no plan, chopping and changing managers with an alarming regularity.

The money being spent on paying off sacked managers is money that could be spent on the playing squad.

We'll be a bottom 6 club again next year

Have to say with no much time for a new guy to see what he's got and to recruit properly in the summer I'm very worried for next season, people at our club have royally funked up all year.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

This is good news. In terms of sacking a manager this is a good time to do it. New manager coming in will have plenty of time to assess and have a summer transfer window. Too often we change a manager too late and the new one coming in inherits a squad and the excuses begin.

Maloneys stubbornness to persist with tactics that are not suited to the players was a major issue.

Maloney already assessed the squad.

the definition of madness and such an absolute waste of money.

imagine you’re a player - all this flip flopping does no one any good.

were gonna change the culture… or we’re not…

so seems to me more of the same - if Maloney was bang on (no reason not to believe imo we’ve all suspected) cultural issues remain and until fixed we can change all the managers and players we like.

Perhaps Maloney’s inflexibility was his downfall (allied to results which people may argue are linked) fwiw I suspect he needed to show his intent and style. He perhaps tried too much too soon and unfotunnltely for him as Glass went before home May just have showed Gordon the way. I think that ultimately his approach would have cut to the chase and got us there sooner. But he’s been cut off at the knees

[DH1875]

Wow didn't see that coming. While not his biggest fan its clearly not enough time for a new manager to put his stamp on the club.

[A Hi-Bee]

Lennon started the downward spiral! He really took us forward at first but I just don't think he's cut out for a team that loses a fair amount of games. The last two teams he's been at he's dramatically lost both dressing rooms. That's not really a secure pair of hands.

Give McInnes control and he'll take us forward. Remember he had Aberdeen playing great football with Hayes and McGinn down the flanks. While things went stale for him, I don't see anyone with a record like him. He's also turned Kilmarnock round in a very short space of time.

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Lenny should have been backed with the cash he wanted to take the club up a bit higher, him and Broony would do for me, that would also get season tickets going again.
:thumbsup:

[SlickShoes]

Who spat the dummy a a week or so ago and had to be encouraged to return to the club.

Are you saying Maloney walked out last week and we begged him to come back, only to sack him a week later?

[LewysGot2]

Who spat the dummy a a week or so ago and had to be encouraged to return to the club.
Caldwell? :confused:

[Hibbyradge]

Wow didn't see that coming. While not his biggest fan its clearly not enough time for a new manager to put his stamp on the club.

I said this elsewhere but Butcher was given time to put his stamp on the team.

I wanted Maloney to be a success, but given that our ambition was to achieve third place, he has spectacularly failed to the extent that we're not even certain to be in this league next season.

Yes, there was a terrible injury list, but surely we have the personnel to do better than we have been?

[GordonHFC]

Waiting until the summer to get a new manager in is seriously going to affect ST renewals.

[Iain G]

Where's Maloney Gone?
(Where's Maloney gone?),
Far far away...

🤣

[JamesHFC]

Waiting until the summer to get a new manager in is seriously going to affect ST renewals.

ST sales so far were probably part of the reason he’s gone. It’s probably not the manager people aren’t renewing for though, it’s to wait and see what recruitment we do. These players have got two managers sacked.

[allezsauzee]

Lenny should have been backed with the cash he wanted to take the club up a bit higher, him and Broony would do for me, that would also get season tickets going again.
:thumbsup:

This please, Lenny plus investment in players

[CB Hibs 68]

Hibs are a fxxking Omnishambles.This is all down to the muppet’s that are Ron and Ben.Maybe Ron has another son who can take on the Managers role.I think we need to be very afraid about the running of the club.Massive disconnect between the club and the supporters .ST sales will plummet and there is nothing to suggest Ron will put his hands in his pockets

[Iain G]

Waiting until the summer to get a new manager in is seriously going to affect ST renewals.

We can get a new manager in now and punt him again in 4 months just as the summer window is closing...seems to be the way we operate now.

[LunasBoots]

All the best Shaun, not your fault really, you came into a club with no real direction and very poor recruitment last summer which let Jack Ross down and has let you down, our owners and people running the club are to blame ultimately for there very poor decisions

[GordonHFC]

ST sales so far were probably part of the reason he’s gone. It’s probably not the manager people aren’t renewing for though, it’s to wait and see what recruitment we do. These players have got two managers sacked.

I agree James but do we trust this lot in charge to get the recruitment right in the summer. Not sure given the recent past that I do.

[Sergio sledge]

Lennon started the downward spiral! He really took us forward at first but I just don't think he's cut out for a team that loses a fair amount of games. The last two teams he's been at he's dramatically lost both dressing rooms. That's not really a secure pair of hands.

Give McInnes control and he'll take us forward. Remember he had Aberdeen playing great football with Hayes and McGinn down the flanks. While things went stale for him, I don't see anyone with a record like him. He's also turned Kilmarnock round in a very short space of time.

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How has MacInnes turned Kilmarnock round? I don't understand where this narrative has come from, they have a virtually identical record in the league before he arrived as they do since, only slightly increasing their points per game, they've scored less per game and conceded less per game. He's also spent a lot of money since he came getting the likes of Lafferty in.

The main difference has been ICT's terrible form meaning they moved up from fourth when he took over and a slight dip in Arbroaths form meaning they leapfrogged them into first.

Lose this Friday night and He'll have made absolutely no difference since joining Killie in terms of league points.

[Greenio]

I'm stunned by this move

After me telling everyone on here he'd get fully backed in the summer and be here till October. You are all free to ignore anything I say from now on! Ha!

[GRA]

Football short-termism at it's finest. How on earth is he meant to operate such a poor squad beset with injuries, selling our best player, and get immediate results? With not even an opportunity to get a summer transfer window to show what he can do? Can only hope we've got a big name lined up...

[GreenCastle]

Oddly felt like the 2nd half against Hearts was based on Maloney telling players this is my last 45 mins. Give me everything. Maybe explains the change of attitude.

Maybe not but there was a well known poster on here who posted last week he wouldn’t be here by summer.

Never thought Lennon and Brown would be a good idea few months ago but oddly think it’s exactly what is needed. I reckon they would change the weak mindset of the club around. It would be another risk but I think both would improve us.

Maloney - well I still reckon he’s knowledgeable but being the main guy is tough and comes with challenges. This job was just too soon and wrong time. Reminds me a bit of Gary Neville taking the Valencia job but different scale. He would have known what he was getting in for.

I fully reckon if we made the top 6 he would still have his job but a double / possibly even triple set back (both derbies and not making top 6) made the decision easier for Ben and Ron.

[Stanton Spence]

Well I think we now know that Ron is absolutely ruthless.I'm sure you could put clueless in that sentence as well.
The club is a mess and it stops at the top

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[Bristolhibby]

It’s Leeann Dempster we miss. Brought stability and football acumen to the club.

J

[JamesHFC]

I agree James but do we trust this lot in charge to get the recruitment right in the summer. Not sure given the recent past that I do.

Next appointment is crucial but recruitment is going to be what makes or breaks us. Given that Gordon has acknowledged that a young respected coach hasn’t worked, I fully expect to see an experienced manager come in next.

[theonlywayisup]

I am extremely angry at how things are playing out at Easter Road and there is only one person to blame - Ron Gordon.

To me, even last year when we finished 3rd in the league, it was blindingly obvious we needed good solid recruitment in areas that we needed it most. Last season, I felt we were too reliant on our good players playing well, which of course they did. At the start of the season, I actually was upbeat as Magennis was playing well but then the injuries to key players and suspensions highlighted our lack of depth.

I did not want Jack Ross sacked, but I understand and accept why he was. At the time, I felt the problem was more down to poor recruitment and injuries than down to JR. To then replace him with an unproven manager and then sign equally unproven players (excluding Clarke) in the transfer window is a shocking example of bad management. So bad I can't express in words how bad.

Only Hibs can build you up and then deflate you so quickly. When we should have been building a solid platform, we are now on a downward spiral. Over to you Ron.

[bigwheel]

I am extremely angry at how things are playing out at Easter Road and there is only one person to blame - Ron Gordon.

To me, even last year when we finished 3rd in the league, it was blindingly obvious we needed good solid recruitment in areas that we needed it most. Last season, I felt we were too reliant on our good players playing well, which of course they did. At the start of the season, I actually was upbeat as Magennis was playing well but then the injuries to key players and suspensions highlighted our lack of depth.

I did not want Jack Ross sacked, but I understand and accept why he was. At the time, I felt the problem was more down to poor recruitment and injuries than down to JR. To then replace him with an unproven manager and then sign equally unproven players (excluding Clarke) in the transfer window is a shocking example of bad management. So bad I can't express in words how bad.

Only Hibs can build you up and then deflate you so quickly. When we should have been building a solid platform, we are now on a downward spiral. Over to you Ron.

100 percent behind this message

[Hiber-nation]

Laughing stock of a club. Appoint him, give him a January window with 2 weeks notice to sort out the malaise, expect him to cope with the loss of Martin Boyle and a shedload of injuries then sack him.

If Kensell and Gordon bugger the next one up then I dread to think of the consequences.

[PeeJay]

Surprised it has actually happened, but the decision is clearly the right one. Never understood all this "he needs time" nonsense ... he never even get the basics right and losing twice in a row meekly to Hearts (once to kick us out of top six and once in the semi final is unacceptable!!) - good riddance!

[bigwheel]

Laughing stock of a club. Appoint him, give him a January window with 2 weeks notice to sort out the malaise, expect him to cope with the loss of Martin Boyle and a shedload of injuries then sack him.

If Kensell and Gordon bugger the next one up then I dread to think of the consequences.

Agree with this too - our club have lost its values and class - embarrassing us with the way this club is led.

[LewysGot2]

It’s Leeann Dempster we miss. Brought stability and football acumen to the club.

J

She definitely brought a vision, shared it, acted on it and ultimately delivered the goods. Its visible leadership, experience and knowledge of what she was getting in to. Nobody can say it was perfect, as it wasn't, but we had direction and a plan.

Unfortunately, many aspects of it have been dismantled. She didn't see every part of the club needing to generate money - the community stuff being an example. We can see that this side of the club is already being altered.

[bigwheel]

It’s Leeann Dempster we miss. Brought stability and football acumen to the club.

J

The decline started when she was here …she had her wonderful chapter - but didn’t leave the club in a good place either

[WhileTheChief..]

Good news.

So is Ron Gordon a bed wetter or are all of us that wanted a change now forgiven!

Delighted with this. We can start to get a team to be proud of again.

[A Hi-Bee]

She definitely brought a vision, shared it, acted on it and ultimately delivered the goods. Its visible leadership, experience and knowledge of what she was getting in to. Nobody can say it was perfect, as it wasn't, but we had direction and a plan.

Unfortunately, many aspects of it have been dismantled. She didn't see every part of the club needing to generate money - the community stuff being an example. We can see that this side of the club is already being altered.

Her time had come and gone a couple of years before she eventually moved. it was way past her time for moving on.

[Bobby's Cinema]

Agree with this too - our club have lost its values and class - embarrassing us with the way this club is led.
Think we need to calm down a bit here.

Ron has a lot to learn clearly, made several poor decisions I'm a row on management and recruitment and all of a sudden we're on the slide. But It's not irreparable damage we're talking about here.

7th, beaten league Cup finalists and Scottish Cup semi finalists, the squad the next manager inherits has several issues but we can learn the lessons and go again next year.. the mentality and build of player we've gone after in the squad is the big thing for me to get back to the feeling we had going into big games under Stubbs/Lennon. But I'm feeling alot more positive this morning than any time since SM came in.

[GreenCastle]

She definitely brought a vision, shared it, acted on it and ultimately delivered the goods. Its visible leadership, experience and knowledge of what she was getting in to. Nobody can say it was perfect, as it wasn't, but we had direction and a plan.

Unfortunately, many aspects of it have been dismantled. She didn't see every part of the club needing to generate money - the community stuff being an example. We can see that this side of the club is already being altered.

LD also made some odd appointments and we struggled with sponsors etc. she left the stadium to rot.

That part has improved.

The football part hasn’t.

We need Burrows from Motherwell and or a structure that has a back bone.

[bigwheel]

Think we need to calm down a bit here.

Ron has a lot to learn clearly, made several poor decisions I'm a row on management and recruitment and all of a sudden we're on the slide. But It's not irreparable damage we're talking about here.

7th, beaten league Cup finalists and Scottish Cup semi finalists, the squad the next manager inherits has several issues but we can learn the lessons and go again next year.. the mentality and build of player we've gone after in the squad is the big thing for me. But I'm feeling alot more positive this morning than any time since SM came in.

No one will think it’s irreparable, but there are major changes required .

Senior employees telling folks before the match at the weekend , Maloney was for the chop ..this isn’t the club like it used to be .

We’ve gone from 3rd and in Europe to also rans and shambles in a year …that’s quite an achievement to be fair

You’ve got more confidence in them than me - I hope you are calling it right [emoji119]

[Smartie]

Think we need to calm down a bit here.

Ron has a lot to learn clearly, made several poor decisions I'm a row on management and recruitment and all of a sudden we're on the slide. But It's not irreparable damage we're talking about here.

7th, beaten league Cup finalists and Scottish Cup semi finalists, the squad the next manager inherits has several issues but we can learn the lessons and go again next year.. the mentality and build of player we've gone after in the squad is the big thing for me to get back to the feeling we had going into big games under Stubbs/Lennon. But I'm feeling alot more positive this morning than any time since SM came in.

Correct.

I think Ron has probably righted a wrong here, and we all need to pause and take a breath.

That doesn't excuse all that has gone before or all that might be wrong now, but the next moves we make need to be the right ones for the right reasons.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Son of Ron for manager/head coach now :hmmm:

[heretoday]

Sad at this. I can only think that Maloney was used to working with players of far better quality than Hibs could ever afford and his long-term plans were never going to come to fruition.
Thanks for trying Shaun.