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bigwheel
20-04-2022, 06:21 AM
Just me that thinks this is an odd article?

Dont know if it’s the way it’s written or that I’m reading it at 7am but all just seems a bit off, just typing loads of random rumours?

Maloney out his depth, disrespectful and has PA
Players not buying into his ideas
A ‘hunch’ about Steve Kean
Scott Brown returning

It is …strange structure, lots of different points..

Billy Whizz
20-04-2022, 06:22 AM
https://t.co/CHPcWhrE0p

Doesn’t make for good reading. Someone posted about him having a PA that the players had to go through if they wanted a meeting, seems there was some truth to it.

It is a terrible read, wonder who the other manager is?

The culture at Hibs doesn’t seem great either, infighting and back stabbing.

Heisenberg
20-04-2022, 06:24 AM
Just me that thinks this is an odd article?

Dont know if it’s the way it’s written or that I’m reading it at 7am but all just seems a bit off, just typing loads of random rumours?

Maloney out his depth, disrespectful and has PA
Players not buying into his ideas
A ‘hunch’ about Steve Kean
Scott Brown returning

I’ve just noticed it was written by Gordon Parks who is a complete weapon of a journalist.

On the manager texting him bit I’d believe it if someone told me his source was Jim Goodwin. He was fuming with Maloney after that St Mirren win at ER.

Paulie Walnuts
20-04-2022, 06:26 AM
Just me that thinks this is an odd article?

Dont know if it’s the way it’s written or that I’m reading it at 7am but all just seems a bit off, just typing loads of random rumours?

Maloney out his depth, disrespectful and has PA
Players not buying into his ideas
A ‘hunch’ about Steve Kean
Scott Brown returning

It’s a terrible article.

truehibernian
20-04-2022, 07:02 AM
I’ve just noticed it was written by Gordon Parks who is a complete weapon of a journalist.

On the manager texting him bit I’d believe it if someone told me his source was Jim Goodwin. He was fuming with Maloney after that St Mirren win at ER.

If I had to bet on it I’d say Malky MacKay - don’t think they got on at Wigan and MM wanted him emptied and if I recall Wigan lost out on a big fee because SM didn’t agree terms with a club meaning his contract expired. Just a hunch.

J-C
20-04-2022, 07:04 AM
Yeah that is interesting re Maloney's manner. I'd mentioned on another thread a Hibs employee had told me on Saturday that morale around the place was awful, so fits with that.

I spoke to Jamie McDonald fairly recently about his time as Killie keeper and he said everyone loved Steve Clarke because of the way he spoke to players aligned with how simple his messaging was generally.


I do wonder that Maloney spoke to players in a derogatory manner due to them not being capable of playing his way and forgot that he's not dealing with world class players who stroll through training playing the Belgium way. He seemed very stubborn regarding his tactics and would not change when it was obvious it wasn't working, so instead of blaming the tactic he's blaming the players. Sounds very Butcheresque.

WestStandWillie
20-04-2022, 07:14 AM
What did Gary Caldwell offer us?

Was there any interview with him upon his return? He’s just snuck in the side door and offered nothing. He was a hopeless manager and not much better at being an assistant.

The Maloney appointment has been an disaster. Ron acted rapid. Suspect if this was Petrie or Dempster we’d be dragging our heels and foxtrot oscaring towards the relegation play offs.

Danderhall Hibs
20-04-2022, 07:17 AM
If I had to bet on it I’d say Malky MacKay - don’t think they got on at Wigan and MM wanted him emptied and if I recall Wigan lost out on a big fee because SM didn’t agree terms with a club meaning his contract expired. Just a hunch.

Well journalists from the sun have been forgiving him recently for being a racist so maybe this was what they got in return.

Wouldn’t surprise me if he’d dropped a few WhatsApps to the journalist to kick SM while he was down.

Daily Hibs
20-04-2022, 07:21 AM
Ross got us to Hampden 6 times in 2 years. 2 wins, 3 defeats and then one defeat with Gray in charge. The losses were gutting and the second St Johnstone loss I blame him for completely.

But 6 Hampden trips in 2 years is more Hampden trips than we had in 2 DECADES between 1980 and 2000.

I struggle with this idea that his sacking had to happen and wonder if he would have eventually got us over the line at Hampden at some point.

I think as a fan base we need to stop these historic comparisons, it holds the club back.

How many times have we been at Hampden since 2000 and we only have two trophies to show for it?

We are one of the biggest clubs in the country and the managers job is one of the premier jobs in the country.

Whole club needs a mentality change, fans included.

Yorkshire HFC
20-04-2022, 07:30 AM
It was the main thing I was concerned about with Maloney/Caldwell is their interaction with the players.

Now I don’t know either of them personally, but from how Maloney comes across and stories I’ve heard he’s a very quiet guy and isn’t really a joker or one of the lads. Caldwell is someone I just always think is rather snobby and again not much of a laugh.

Now I’m not saying the manager and assistant should be best friends with the players but I think it’s really important to make the club a good place to be where you go in, work hard and always have a laugh and enjoy your time.

Sometimes the manager does that with a serious number 2 and sometimes the manager js serious and number 2 is a joker.

To me I can see the management and players being very different and not being the type to get the best out of them.

If I was going to appoint someone in the most important position in my company then I would take 10 minutes to find out what type of person he was from people who knew him.

This is all basic stuff - the people who run Hibs don't seem to be very smart.

He's here!
20-04-2022, 07:31 AM
Just me that thinks this is an odd article?

Dont know if it’s the way it’s written or that I’m reading it at 7am but all just seems a bit off, just typing loads of random rumours?

Maloney out his depth, disrespectful and has PA
Players not buying into his ideas
A ‘hunch’ about Steve Kean
Scott Brown returning

An unpleasant hatchet job based on hearsay. Doesn't sound like the guy has any personal knowledge of Maloney. Pretty cowardly stuff.

Brightside
20-04-2022, 07:32 AM
I think as a fan base we need to stop these historic comparisons, it holds the club back.

How many times have we been at Hampden since 2000 and we only have two trophies to show for it?

We are one of the biggest clubs in the country and the managers job is one of the premier jobs in the country.

Whole club needs a mentality change, fans included.

Getting there is the starting point. Playing that down is madness, as any Hibs fan knows.

Steve20
20-04-2022, 07:37 AM
Getting there is the starting point. Playing that down is madness, as any Hibs fan knows.

Getting to Hampden is not enough to be called success. When people say at the start of the season "a good cup run" as an achievement. It's not. Success is winning a cup, not just reaching semi finals and finals. Winning them is what counts.

Obviously we're not going to win every time at Hampden, but our record of turning semi finals into winning cups is horrendous. So playing those 6 games at Hampden over the past 2 years is nothing to be proud of, when you look at how it ended up.

Daily Hibs
20-04-2022, 07:40 AM
Getting there is the starting point. Playing that down is madness, as any Hibs fan knows.
We have had very fortunate draws in the cup runs over the last two years where it would be a failure not getting to Hampden, as soon as we have got there we all know what has happened. Our record at Hampden is starting to become very very poor.

Yorkshire HFC
20-04-2022, 07:44 AM
I think as a fan base we need to stop these historic comparisons, it holds the club back.

How many times have we been at Hampden since 2000 and we only have two trophies to show for it?

We are one of the biggest clubs in the country and the managers job is one of the premier jobs in the country.

Whole club needs a mentality change, fans included.


What is this based on? It's certainly not results on the pitch.

Loads of people will want to be manager of Hibs because it will provide a big salary - but if money is all you have to offer, then you don't have a very good offer.

Lago
20-04-2022, 07:44 AM
I think as a fan base we need to stop these historic comparisons, it holds the club back.

How many times have we been at Hampden since 2000 and we only have two trophies to show for it?

We are one of the biggest clubs in the country and the managers job is one of the premier jobs in the country.

Whole club needs a mentality change, fans included.
Terrific and really sensible post, well said.

degenerated
20-04-2022, 07:50 AM
Not a high bar.Actually it is, there won't be many Hibs managers with as good a record as his.

Tambo
20-04-2022, 07:58 AM
I see Commons is having his say on the matter, he wouldn't care if it wasn't another of his ex Celtic pals.

Paulie Walnuts
20-04-2022, 08:02 AM
I see Commons is having his say on the matter, he wouldn't care if it wasn't another of his ex Celtic pals.

He is an utter bellend.

LewysGot2
20-04-2022, 08:05 AM
I see Commons is having his say on the matter, he wouldn't care if it wasn't another of his ex Celtic pals.

Aiden McGeady as well. Likewise...

Mcbizz1998
20-04-2022, 08:31 AM
What is this based on? It's certainly not results on the pitch.

Loads of people will want to be manager of Hibs because it will provide a big salary - but if money is all you have to offer, then you don't have a very good offer.

Celtic, Rangers, Hibs/Hearts, Aberdeen.

Those are the biggest clubs in this country and they always will be.

LaMotta
20-04-2022, 08:49 AM
I think as a fan base we need to stop these historic comparisons, it holds the club back.

How many times have we been at Hampden since 2000 and we only have two trophies to show for it?

We are one of the biggest clubs in the country and the managers job is one of the premier jobs in the country.

Whole club needs a mentality change, fans included.

How does making that comparison hold the club back? :hilarious. Ridiculous sentence.

If you compare it with any manager more recently it's as good as anything bar Stubbs. The visits generate significant money for the club and the achievement of getting there consistently should not be underplayed.

That doesn't mean we dont all want to win finals. You are in for a bit of a shock if you think we or any club outside Huns and Celtic are going to do so on a regular basis though.

Since452
20-04-2022, 08:50 AM
I see Commons is having his say on the matter, he wouldn't care if it wasn't another of his ex Celtic pals.

They've wheeled out Commons and Aiden McGeady was on the radio yesterday having his say. Who will it be today? Jan Venegoor of Hesselink? Honestly what the **** has it got to do with them? Shaun's mates are obviously going to stick up for him no mater how atrocious his record was.

LaMotta
20-04-2022, 08:54 AM
Getting to Hampden is not enough to be called success. When people say at the start of the season "a good cup run" as an achievement. It's not. Success is winning a cup, not just reaching semi finals and finals. Winning them is what counts.

Obviously we're not going to win every time at Hampden, but our record of turning semi finals into winning cups is horrendous. So playing those 6 games at Hampden over the past 2 years is nothing to be proud of, when you look at how it ended up.

So we can only have been proud of Hibs in the cups 3 solitary times in over 40 years of playing 2 cup competitions every year?

Aldo
20-04-2022, 08:59 AM
Who gives a **** about what folk are saying? It’s about what’s best for Hibs. You can guarantee that if we did end up relegated that Sutton, Commons and co would lay the blame at the clubs door for not supporting him enough blah blah blah!

All absolute guff.

We did the right thing getting rid.

It should have be obviously clear to SM and co that we didn’t have the personnel to implement his style yet he continued to try and play in that way. Call it stubborn or naive but instead of assessing these players and playing a style that suited…. No. I actually think it was at touch of arrogance.

We are again at a crossroads and Ron really needs to start taking the club in the right direction!


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madhatter
20-04-2022, 09:00 AM
Anybody know when this interview with Ron Gordon is scheduled for?

LewysGot2
20-04-2022, 09:01 AM
Anybody know when this interview with Ron Gordon is scheduled for?

If he's in the US then maybe our afternoon?

Vault Boy
20-04-2022, 09:04 AM
Anybody know when this interview with Ron Gordon is scheduled for?

Late-afternoon

He's here!
20-04-2022, 09:07 AM
Getting to Hampden is not enough to be called success. When people say at the start of the season "a good cup run" as an achievement. It's not. Success is winning a cup, not just reaching semi finals and finals. Winning them is what counts.

Obviously we're not going to win every time at Hampden, but our record of turning semi finals into winning cups is horrendous. So playing those 6 games at Hampden over the past 2 years is nothing to be proud of, when you look at how it ended up.

That's harsh. I'd imagine that our 21st Century record of reaching at least the last four of the cup competitions stands comparison with any side outwith Celtic and the Rangers. As the fourth/fifth biggest club in the country it's absolutely in keeping with realistic expectations. Sure, as you say our overall record of 'conversion' into trophies is grim but it's vastly more impressive than crashing out in the early rounds most seasons.

LaMotta
20-04-2022, 09:10 AM
That's harsh. I'd imagine that our 21st Century record of reaching at least the last four of the cup competitions stands comparison with any side outwith Celtic and the Rangers. As the fourth/fifth biggest club in the country it's absolutely in keeping with realistic expectations. Sure, as you say our overall record of 'conversion' into trophies is grim but it's vastly more impressive than crashing out in the early rounds most seasons.

Exactly this.

LaMotta
20-04-2022, 09:12 AM
I see Commons is having his say on the matter, he wouldn't care if it wasn't another of his ex Celtic pals.


He is an utter bellend.

:agree: Commons is the worst pundit in Scotland. And that is saying something. He was an awful listen when he managed to get on Sportsound occasionally a few years ago.

RupertsBollocks
20-04-2022, 09:20 AM
Very strange decision indeed. I wonder if there was a clause based on a top 6 finish? Otherwise it’s is really, really bizarre and frankly, concerning decision.

Hiber-nation
20-04-2022, 09:21 AM
:agree: Commons is the worst pundit in Scotland. And that is saying something. He was an awful listen when he managed to get on Sportsound occasionally a few years ago.

Thanks for the goal at Falkirk Kris. Now just shut up and go away.

LewysGot2
20-04-2022, 09:49 AM
Thanks for the goal at Falkirk Kris. Now just shut up and go away.

Pretty much this 😂

Since452
20-04-2022, 09:56 AM
Anybody know when this interview with Ron Gordon is scheduled for?

I'm really, really interested in what he has to say on this. He's shown he's not frightened to make a call which is admirable but he need to to get this appointment right. Will be an interesting listen.

Smartie
20-04-2022, 10:13 AM
We have had very fortunate draws in the cup runs over the last two years where it would be a failure not getting to Hampden, as soon as we have got there we all know what has happened. Our record at Hampden is starting to become very very poor.

Are you old enough to have seen us knocked out of cups by Clydebank, Airdrie (many times), Stirling Albion, Queen of the South, Raith Rovers (many times) etc etc?

I think we should be delighted with the fact that Hibs are putting themselves in the position to compete in the latter stages of competitions with much greater regularity... but also critical of the fact that so far we haven't been taking those opportunities.

It needs to improve, no doubt, but credit where it's due. I sometimes think Hibs would get an easier ride from some folk if they were still tripping up on the banana skins in the earlier rounds.

Scotty Leither
20-04-2022, 10:20 AM
I appreciate we were happy to get 3rd as we don't do it all that often but with no fans and some turgid football on display most weeks, it was easy to see why when Ross went on a bad run some fans would get vocal, after saying that I do feel Ross was entitled to try and turn it round after January but we don't really know if there were other factors involved, rumours of a Gordon/Ross disagreement and fall out is one.

At this moment in time I have no clue who we may go after and TBH I can't even be arsed thinking of who I'd want, I'm very disheartened with Hibs right now and don't really care too much.

The bit in bold of your statement nails it.

Story goes that Gordon wanted Doig sold, Ross more or less confirmed he was away by saying "a deal was imminent" or some such, and that's why he was left out the team.

Whoever the suitor was, the deal falls through, and shortly afterwards Mathie announced he was annoyed at "patronising bids" - see link:
Hibernian chief slams 'patronising' bids for Premier League linked starlet Doig | Goal.com (https://www.goal.com/en/news/hibernian-patronising-bids-premier-league-linked-doig/1kabxleirex0i14xaadp3a4ou8?msclkid=1d7c8321c09211e c863485df20ee5120)

I think then that a blame game has ensued that's been allowed to fester, Mathie had the stink put on him for subsequent crap recrutiment and Ross followed in short order thereafter.

This next appointment will tell you a lot about Gordon's intentions I think, and he's quoted as saying he wants an experienced hand; the statement yesterday about a young highly regarded coach not working out, is as close as you'll get to an admission they got the appointment wrong, and is probably what passes for an apology from an American businessman, who' appears to be as ruthless as they come despite the benign smile and outward bonhomie.

Scotty Leither
20-04-2022, 10:24 AM
Thanks for the goal at Falkirk Kris. Now just shut up and go away.

The one solitary good thing to emerge from this is it appears to have rattled the thick as **** Weegie media mafia.

Time somebody at the club was giving these twats their character on a more regular basis; a good start would be chasing that rag the Daily Record as far away from ER as possible.

SHODAN
20-04-2022, 10:24 AM
Apologies if already posted but apparently Maloney had a row with Kensell yesterday morning.

GordonHFC
20-04-2022, 10:27 AM
Not surprising if he had been sacked. Decision was made on Monday night.

w pilton hibby
20-04-2022, 12:44 PM
Apologies if already posted but apparently Maloney had a row with Kensell yesterday morning.

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/8733887/shaun-maloney-hibs-bitter-ben-kensell-feared-relegated/

Scotty Leither
20-04-2022, 01:05 PM
If I was going to appoint someone in the most important position in my company then I would take 10 minutes to find out what type of person he was from people who knew him.

This is all basic stuff - the people who run Hibs don't seem to be very smart.

Gary Caldwell is second only to John Collins in the "if he was chocolate he would eat himself" stakes.

LewysGot2
20-04-2022, 07:54 PM
Gary Caldwell is second only to John Collins in the "if he was chocolate he would eat himself" stakes.
Nah, that’s Kevin Thomson :greengrin

Since452
21-04-2022, 09:01 AM
Interesting...

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/one-prem-boss-scathing-shaun-26746632

Paulie Walnuts
21-04-2022, 09:04 AM
Interesting...

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/one-prem-boss-scathing-shaun-26746632

Seen a few suggestions it could be Goodwin.

If it is then it’s pretty funny seeing him suggest others are out of their depth after his start at Pittodrie.

Billy Whizz
21-04-2022, 09:06 AM
Seen a few suggestions it could be Goodwin.

If it is then it’s pretty funny seeing him suggest others are out of their depth after his start at Pittodrie.

The treatment of Maloney in the press is disgusting
He’s a young manager in his 1st gig, and it didn’t work out. He should never have been in the role in the 1st place. Ron and co threw him under the bus

FilipinoHibs
21-04-2022, 09:34 AM
Gary Caldwell is second only to John Collins in the "if he was chocolate he would eat himself" stakes.

He practically played no role touch side during games. It was always SDG talking and suggesting things to Maloney.

flash
21-04-2022, 10:04 AM
The treatment of Maloney in the press is disgusting
He’s a young manager in his 1st gig, and it didn’t work out. He should never have been in the role in the 1st place. Ron and co threw him under the bus

"Ron and co" gave him an opportunity in the first place. That was a mistake but presumably he talked a far better game than he was able to get his team to produce on the park.

blackpoolhibs
21-04-2022, 10:10 AM
The treatment of Maloney in the press is disgusting
He’s a young manager in his 1st gig, and it didn’t work out. He should never have been in the role in the 1st place. Ron and co threw him under the bus

I dont know how you come to that Billy, he was WELL backed in the last window, but most of the signings were not ready for 1st team football, in a window where we needed them now.

His results were awful, his tactics and substitutions too, he threw himself under that bus in my opinion.

Paulie Walnuts
21-04-2022, 10:11 AM
I dont know how you come to that Billy, he was WELL backed in the last window, but most of the signings were not ready for 1st team football, in a window where we needed them now.

His results were awful, his tactics and substitutions too, he threw himself under that bus in my opinion.

He was well backed with players that weren’t ready for first team football?

blackpoolhibs
21-04-2022, 10:20 AM
He was well backed with players that weren’t ready for first team football?

The manager has the last say on who comes in, did you not see Ron's interview?

Paulie Walnuts
21-04-2022, 10:28 AM
The manager has the last say on who comes in, did you not see Ron's interview?

I heard mentions of “Shaun was very much involved” and “a group of us” which included the manager made the decisions but I didn’t hear it said the manager has the final say, no.

CapitalGreen
21-04-2022, 10:30 AM
I heard mentions of “Shaun was very much involved” and “a group of us” which included the manager made the decisions but I didn’t hear it said the manager has the final say, no.

During his Q&A, Maloney said himself that he had final say on all the players that were brought in and that he took time to speak to them personally before signing them. You can watch it back on Recast, it was during the 2nd part of the evening.

Smartie
21-04-2022, 10:37 AM
Am I right in thinking that Jack Ross was the Head Coach and that Maloney was the manager (there seemed to be a big deal made of the title on the door of his office when he was unveiled) - meaning that there might have been a tweak to who gets a say in what and when regarding transfers when Maloney arrived?

Northernhibee
21-04-2022, 10:38 AM
Am I right in thinking that Jack Ross was the Head Coach and that Maloney was the manager (there seemed to be a big deal made of the title on the door of his office when he was unveiled) - meaning that there might have been a tweak to who gets a say in what and when regarding transfers when Maloney arrived?

It struck me as a little bit of ego stroking quite frankly. Focus on being a good leader and manager, who cares what the wording on the door says.

blackpoolhibs
21-04-2022, 10:45 AM
I heard mentions of “Shaun was very much involved” and “a group of us” which included the manager made the decisions but I didn’t hear it said the manager has the final say, no.
You were not paying attention then, no surprise.

Paulie Walnuts
21-04-2022, 11:24 AM
You were not paying attention then, no surprise.

Probably not no, I was cooking dinner while watching it.

Paulie Walnuts
21-04-2022, 11:26 AM
During his Q&A, Maloney said himself that he had final say on all the players that were brought in and that he took time to speak to them personally before signing them. You can watch it back on Recast, it was during the 2nd part of the evening.

And what does he get final say on?

Does he get given two strikers with similar pedigree - say Melkersen or another 18 year old for us to develop and get final say? I mean you’d have to imagine we put forward a player that fits a certain profile so the players will most likely be very similar. If that’s the extent of his final say then I’m not sure that’s well backed.

I think folk are kidding themselves on if they think Maloney had the option of signing players with experience and pedigree that would have seen him well backed but decided he just wanted laddies who he wasn’t expecting to even play.

Billy Whizz
21-04-2022, 11:29 AM
I dont know how you come to that Billy, he was WELL backed in the last window, but most of the signings were not ready for 1st team football, in a window where we needed them now.

His results were awful, his tactics and substitutions too, he threw himself under that bus in my opinion.

Other than Mitchell, possibly Jasper, how many were really his signings?
Clarke was on the radar for a bit, as were the Norwegian boys. Mueller was on the list from the summer, and Rocky was a Kinsell signing
Henderson was contacted the day after Jack was sacked

I was never for Maloney in the 1st place, but not convinced he got the support he needed

CapitalGreen
21-04-2022, 11:36 AM
Other than Mitchell, possibly Jasper, how many were really his signings?
Clarke was on the radar for a bit, as were the Norwegian boys. Mueller was on the list from the summer, and Rocky was a Kinsell signing
Henderson was contacted the day after Jack was sacked

I was never for Maloney in the 1st place, but not convinced he got the support he needed

Maloney will have been well aware of Rocky from Belgium u21’s and Henderson was very much his signing.

McGruber
21-04-2022, 11:36 AM
Other than Mitchell, possibly Jasper, how many were really his signings?
Clarke was on the radar for a bit, as were the Norwegian boys. Mueller was on the list from the summer, and Rocky was a Kinsell signing
Henderson was contacted the day after Jack was sacked

I was never for Maloney in the 1st place, but not convinced he got the support he needed

Maybe though Rocky was a Maloney signing - he said he was his number 1 target. Unless that was a bit of bravado for the media saying we missed out on Sibbick (no miss in my opinion- not sold on Rocky either)

Paulie Walnuts
21-04-2022, 11:37 AM
Other than Mitchell, possibly Jasper, how many were really his signings?
Clarke was on the radar for a bit, as were the Norwegian boys. Mueller was on the list from the summer, and Rocky was a Kinsell signing
Henderson was contacted the day after Jack was sacked

I was never for Maloney in the 1st place, but not convinced he got the support he needed

He had Boyle sold 2 games into the job. It would have taken some exceptional signings to square up the squad he had after losing him.

If you take a job and are left with a much weaker squad after 2 games then in my eyes you’ve not been WELL backed.

Paulie Walnuts
21-04-2022, 11:37 AM
Maloney will have been well aware of Rocky from Belgium u21’s and Henderson was very much his signing.

Henderson had been approached by Hibs before Maloney. He said as much himself.

CapitalGreen
21-04-2022, 11:41 AM
Henderson had been approached by Hibs before Maloney. He said as much himself.

With Maloney having worked closely with him in the past do you think we’d still have signed him if he didn’t want him?

Billy Whizz
21-04-2022, 11:43 AM
Maloney will have been well aware of Rocky from Belgium u21’s and Henderson was very much his signing.

Henderson was contacted by Hibs before Maloney joined, he said it in his Hibs TV interview

Blaster
21-04-2022, 11:47 AM
The signings we made were ok, on the assumption the likes of Magennis & Boyle were still available. When we lost those 2 we ended up short and the injury situation made it worse

NC1875
21-04-2022, 11:49 AM
Gary Caldwell is second only to John Collins in the "if he was chocolate he would eat himself" stakes.

God knows why, has he not looked in a mirror. Boulder heed

jacomo
21-04-2022, 12:00 PM
Other than Mitchell, possibly Jasper, how many were really his signings?
Clarke was on the radar for a bit, as were the Norwegian boys. Mueller was on the list from the summer, and Rocky was a Kinsell signing
Henderson was contacted the day after Jack was sacked

I was never for Maloney in the 1st place, but not convinced he got the support he needed


Rocky was 100% a Maloney signing, he talked about how much he wanted him to sign.

jacomo
21-04-2022, 12:02 PM
And what does he get final say on?

Does he get given two strikers with similar pedigree - say Melkersen or another 18 year old for us to develop and get final say? I mean you’d have to imagine we put forward a player that fits a certain profile so the players will most likely be very similar. If that’s the extent of his final say then I’m not sure that’s well backed.

I think folk are kidding themselves on if they think Maloney had the option of signing players with experience and pedigree that would have seen him well backed but decided he just wanted laddies who he wasn’t expecting to even play.


Are you going to accept your man made mistakes any time soon, or just continue to excuse Maloney for everything?

Might it be time to admit this managerial gamble we made in December was a catastrophe?

Paulie Walnuts
21-04-2022, 12:05 PM
Are you going to accept your man made mistakes any time soon, or just continue to excuse Maloney for everything?

Might it be time to admit this managerial gamble we made in December was a catastrophe?

I’ve said plenty times results weren’t good enough.

I’ve said plenty times his preferred formation wasn’t working.

I’ve said already that Ron’s interview was good yesterday and I thought he came across well and made good points - they points were critical of Maloney.

That doesn’t mean I have to believe he was WELL backed in January as well though. A window where his one man team he inherited was sold from beneath him.

I’d be interested to know what the manager at Hibs having final say on players looks like. It’s far too vague a term to allow us to pin the blame on the manager when you don’t know what the extent of his final say is. If it’s getting to choose between two players that aren’t ready for first team football then it’s hardly being WELL backed because he gets to make the final decision between them for next season, is it?

McGruber
21-04-2022, 12:14 PM
Are you going to accept your man made mistakes any time soon, or just continue to excuse Maloney for everything?

Might it be time to admit this managerial gamble we made in December was a catastrophe?

Stubbsy90+2 has been very clear on his view Maloney should have been given more time and he wasn't alone in that opinion. I was firmly in the Maloney out camp viewing his tenure a disaster. It divided opinion amongst the support which is not good. Lets hope the next appointment is the right guy, gets some excitement going and everyone pulling the same way

jacomo
21-04-2022, 12:27 PM
The only legitimate grievance Shaun would have is if he was told one thing re: transfers at interview and the reality just a month later was different.

He did want a replacement for Boyle and - although not the finished article - we did sign Jasper for that position. Plus Clarke to play wide right (as Boyle sometimes played wing back).

Other than that he professed himself delighted with the squad in January.

Since452
21-04-2022, 01:39 PM
The only legitimate grievance Shaun would have is if he was told one thing re: transfers at interview and the reality just a month later was different.

He did want a replacement for Boyle and - although not the finished article - we did sign Jasper for that position. Plus Clarke to play wide right (as Boyle sometimes played wing back).

Other than that he professed himself delighted with the squad in January.

Super happy

The Sundance Kid
21-04-2022, 03:54 PM
Maloney has released the following statement in the press following his sacking:

'It's been an honour and a privilege to be the manager of Hibernian, a club with such a proud and distinguished history.

I'm disappointed not to have had the time to move the club forward to a position where we could consistently challenge the top teams in the country for domestic honours and European football.

It was my deepest desire to be able to deliver for the fans a team of which they could feel proud and inspired by.

Even though our defeat at the weekend remains raw, I was convinced all the more by the nature of our performance and the desire we showed, even reduced to ten men, that given time, we would have achieved this.

From day one the players have been a real pleasure to work with and I'm grateful for their enthusiasm and commitment to my coaching ideas.

To the fans, I can only say that I wish I'd been able to make you happier more often. I wish you and the team every success in the future.'

LewysGot2
21-04-2022, 04:52 PM
PLZ still banging the drum today and doubling down. Maloney didn't want the players he got in January, the injured players derailed him, the Board are not taking responsibility for their recruitment policy - all allegedly from "sources" 🤔 🙄

"Hibs fans have jumped on a bandwagon to get rid of and blame Maloney" according to Martin.

They're definitely awfy upset at the "Brentford recruitment model"...why I don't know, its not their team.

J-C
21-04-2022, 05:16 PM
Henderson was contacted by Hibs before Maloney joined, he said it in his Hibs TV interview


That wasn't in the winter though, Maloney went back in for him and got the loan plus summer signing done, Henderson said when he heard Maloney wanted him to come in he jumped at the chance, knew Maloney from his coaching at Celtic.

Since90+2
21-04-2022, 05:21 PM
Maloney has released the following statement in the press following his sacking:

'It's been an honour and a privilege to be the manager of Hibernian, a club with such a proud and distinguished history.

I'm disappointed not to have had the time to move the club forward to a position where we could consistently challenge the top teams in the country for domestic honours and European football.

It was my deepest desire to be able to deliver for the fans a team of which they could feel proud and inspired by.

Even though our defeat at the weekend remains raw, I was convinced all the more by the nature of our performance and the desire we showed, even reduced to ten men, that given time, we would have achieved this.

From day one the players have been a real pleasure to work with and I'm grateful for their enthusiasm and commitment to my coaching ideas.

To the fans, I can only say that I wish I'd been able to make you happier more often. I wish you and the team every success in the future.'

You can tell that statement is written with a heavy heart and probably tear or two.

Thank you Shaun for your efforts.