Cove Rangers v Hibernian

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Well done Kevin. Onto the next round.

[Since452]

Brora, Berwick, Arniston or Rangers next please.

[cabbageandribs1875]

head to head v cove

P2
W2



they just cant beat us

[Stevie Reid]

Cup game so the result is the be all and end all. But the performance can’t just be brushed aside.

Woeful lack of ideas the whole game, and for such a big squad, we seem to be really short of genuine quality in key areas.

[GreenCastle]

Hibs better team - Cove are decent with the £ they spend - especially unbeaten in last 13 so a win is a win in the cup.

[tonyrougier123]

He put his fingers in his ears. I’m not a psychologist but I think that has different meanings.

Yes less arrogance I would assume😂but I’m no psychic either😉

[OtleyHibs]

Got there in the end 👍

Some players to come back in, Henderson and Mueller get their first games under the belts and looked decent, Nisbet on the scoresheet again.....not a great game but its not all bad

[WhileTheChief..]

Phew.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Brora, Berwick, Arniston or Rangers next please.


Auchinleck at home

[silverhibee]

Absolutely no attempt to attack that from you know who.

You need to give it a rest regards the lad, has had a tough year.

[Unseen work]

Couple of points

Doidge through 1v1 - Wrongly Offside
Doidge scored - Wrongly offside
Doidge header
Doidge overhead kick
Doig volley
Nisbet dummy
Doig one on on in extra time
Nisbet through and drags it wide
Cadden and Doigs crosses flashing across goal

We created a lot of very good chances.

The ref/linesmen made it alot harder than it had to.

We more than deserved to win

Cove are a good side

[Nicho87]

Hearts have been beat by worse teams.

[Vault Boy]

Josh Doig impressive tonight. Deserved the assist. So much energy and attacking intent.

[Callum_62]

Got there in the end [emoji106]

Some players to come back in, Henderson and Mueller get their first games under the belts and looked decent, Nisbet on the scoresheet again.....not a great game but its not all badMueller looks levels above Hendo on that showing

Both obviously lacking fitness

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[Callum_62]

BBC coverage lasts about 3 mins after the game [emoji23]

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[SaulGoodman]

You also see it in games up and down the country. Look at the FA cup, some of the greatest teams in the world have been beaten by teams in lower leagues. That’s just cup games.

[Nakedmanoncrack]

Hard fought victory, good cup tie.

[hhibs]

Well done Matt macey


I presume you are being ironic.


Hibs,get up to Tannadice and buy a keeper !

[silverhibee]

Are you watching Winston? 😂

It’s not just Winston.

[Northernhibee]

You need to give it a rest regards the lad, has had a tough year.

With every respect, we can only judge what he does on the pitch and he’s been dreadful as of late and also had some really poor moments tonight.

However being fair and giving credit where it’s due his tracking back to win the ball in our own half was good and the finish for the goal was quite frankly what we seen from him in the previous season. More of that from him and I’ll be absolutely delighted.

[Green-Hibee-7]

Just happy we are into the next round!

[worcesterhibby]

Very pleased for Kevin Nisbet, I was someone who wanted him dropped for tonight, great to see him score, hopefully he kicks on now.

[Since452]

Hearts have been beat by worse teams.

At least Cove are a league side.

[heretoday]

Credit to Hibs for sticking at it.

[Golden Bear]

BBC coverage lasts about 3 mins after the game [emoji23]

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The Beeb's whole presentation is absolutely miles behind Sky, BT and Premier.

[Stevie Reid]

Was quite philosophical about the loss of Boyle before tonight.

Now, not so much.

[Northernhibee]

Was quite philosophical about the loss of Boyle before tonight.

Now, not so much.

I think that once Mueller, Henderson and Melkersen are up to speed we’ll be fine tbh.

[GRA]

I know that wasn't our strongest team and cup football is all about getting into the next round but if that is going to be the standard of football when Boyle is away it doesn't augur well for the remainder of season. Turgid stuff.

[Callum_62]

I think that once Mueller, Henderson and Melkersen are up to speed we’ll be fine tbh.I'm really positive about Mueller - looked to have a bit of everything

Early doors he looked so sharp

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[gbhibby]

Got minutes into legs tonight. Muellers movement was good. Job done.

[silverhibee]

Unfortunately it hasn't, all Cove this, Cove that and so unlucky for Cove.

We are in the hat for the next round, Stewart was being a idiot, kept praising Cove but they done f all in the game.

When we lift the cup no one will remember how we played in this game.

Hartley was always going to have them up for this game.

[Stevie Reid]

I think that once Mueller, Henderson and Melkersen are up to speed we’ll be fine tbh.

Very pleased with Mueller tonight.

[jacomo]

Was quite philosophical about the loss of Boyle before tonight.

Now, not so much.


Boyle will be a huge miss, no doubt about it.

But Mueller looks great, not exactly like for like but he will take his place no problem.

[The Captain....]

One to forget now we're in the hat for the next round.

Positives for me are Caddens quality balls he puts between keeper and defensive line. Some useful contributions from Mueller, only lacking a final product. The goal..Good pick out by Doig and hopefully that goal kickstarts Nisbet again.

Still think our midfield is very poor with no tempo and dont dictate..too slow in moving the ball and all very similar in that respect. Desperately need quality in there if we want to play the way Maloney does.

Cove defended very well..lots of last gasp challenges and blocks and had a few dangerous breaks.

Relieved to be thru. Boyle will be a big miss in creating and scoring..it will take a while to replace his contribution. We'll miss his pace.

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[worcesterhibby]

We are in the hat for the next round, Stewart was being a idiot, kept praising Cove but they done f all in the game.

When we lift the cup no one will remember how we played in this game.

Hartley was always going to have them up for this game.

Not as bad as Joelle Murray who reckoned Cove had the better of the chances !! :confused:

[Mutu]

One to forget now we're in the hat for the next round.

Positives for me are Caddens quality balls he puts between keeper and defensive line. Some useful contributions from Mueller, only lacking a final product. The goal..Good pick out by Doig and hopefully that goal kickstarts Nisbet again.

Still think our midfield is very poor with no tempo and dont dictate..too slow in moving the ball and all very similar in that respect. Desperately need quality in there if we want to play the way Maloney does.

Cove defended very well..lots of last gasp challenges and blocks and had a few dangerous breaks.

Relieved to be thru. Boyle will be a big miss in creating and scoring..it will take a while to replace his contribution. We'll miss his pace.

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Think individually the midfield is fine, just a question of balance.

Thought Newell did well in dictating things from deep (as he should Vs Cove) but there was no one centrally running between the lines when Mueller pulled off.

I'm not downcast at all. Thought the team were brave and didn't panic. Admirable to stick at it like they did.

[JohnMcM]

We are in the hat for the next round, Stewart was being a idiot, kept praising Cove but they done f all in the game.

When we lift the cup no one will remember how we played in this game.

Hartley was always going to have them up for this game.

To be fair, he did that and did it well. Looks like they will be a Championship team next season.

[WeeRussell]

We are in the hat for the next round, Stewart was being a idiot, kept praising Cove but they done f all in the game.

When we lift the cup no one will remember how we played in this game.

Hartley was always going to have them up for this game.

I used to quite like Michael Stewart but I really think he’s got a bee in his bonnet since the Jack Ross exit.

On the whole Boyle thing.. we’ve had poor games with him in the team too where he’s been among the most frustrating. No doubt he’s going to be a big loss.. but I don’t think we can judge too much on tonight’s performance.

At least we’re through.

[Northernhibee]

James Scott looked better tonight. Hopefully he may be able to offer us something after all.

[JamesHFC]

Mueller looked very good. Hoping for a bit more from Hendo which I’m sure we will get. Credit to Cove for giving us a good game, we are in the next round which is the main thing.

[Mutu]

I used to quite like Michael Stewart but I really think he’s got a bee in his bonnet since the Jack Ross exit.

On the whole Boyle thing.. we’ve had poor games with him in the team too where he’s been among the most frustrating. No doubt he’s going to be a big loss.. but I don’t think we can judge too much on tonight’s performance.

At least we’re through.

That's my stance as well.

Mueller, based of that performance, will bring a lot more in terms of link play.

Boyle is/was a one tricky pony - albeit a useful one.

[hibbysam]

Thought Newell, Mueller and Nisbet when he came on were the standouts. Cadden put a few dangerous balls in but at times needs to lift his head. No point flashing it across the face if he’s yards quicker than anyone else that could possibly get in there. Looked really disjointed but you’ll probably get that against lower league sides without much structure and who just chase everything.

The less said about the ref and linesmen the better. 2/3-0 if that goal stands in my opinion.

[Jones28]

I presume you are being ironic.


Hibs,get up to Tannadice and buy a keeper !

You mean sarcastic?

No I wasn’t: I like Macey. He’s the least of our worries.

[WeeRussell]

James Scott looked better tonight. Hopefully he may be able to offer us something after all.

He did. Got to the by-line and put in more inviting balls than most of the team put together.

[Pilrig_Sauzee]

The best thing about it being shown on BBC is we didn’t have to see any of that match again.

Well played Cove. Well done Hibs on result, I found a couple of poind coins hiding behind sofa in extra time.

[WeeRussell]

You mean sarcastic?

No I wasn’t: I like Macey. He’s the least of our worries.

Yeah I found it strange that during that performance tonight, people wanted to pick-out out keeper for criticism.

[J-C]

We are in the hat for the next round, Stewart was being a idiot, kept praising Cove but they done f all in the game.

When we lift the cup no one will remember how we played in this game.

Hartley was always going to have them up for this game.


Cove are a decent team and cruising Div 1, lot of money being ploughed into them, they showed that last season and as you say Hartley will have them pumped up for it.

Impressed by Doig and Cadden out wide, both put in some cracking crosses for no one to get on the end of them. Mueller looks a class act, 2 good feet, clever on the ball and very direct, that run out will do him the world of good. Henderson showed some nice touches and his movement was excellent, again another who tired due to lack of games but done well. Midfield again slow and ponderous until the last 15 mins of extra time when we were really going for it, it's going to take a couple of windows and most of Boyle's money to get the players we need to play a quick short passing game that Maloney wants.

It wasn't great tonight but we're through, that's the main thing.

[Stanton Spence]

No. Stick his fingers in his ears as if he isn’t listening to/doesn’t want to listen to the abuse.. something along those linesDon't you think sticking his fingers in his ears is saying he clearly is listening to the criticism from the fans


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[Stevie Reid]

He did. Got to the by-line and put in more inviting balls than most of the team put together.

Not more than Cadden. His deliveries from wide areas are excellent.

[blackpoolhibs]

With every respect, we can only judge what he does on the pitch and he’s been dreadful as of late and also had some really poor moments tonight.

However being fair and giving credit where it’s due his tracking back to win the ball in our own half was good and the finish for the goal was quite frankly what we seen from him in the previous season. More of that from him and I’ll be absolutely delighted.

Exactly, play like that every week and he wouldnt get stick.

[Johnny_Leith]

Well, in the hat for the next round and that's all that really matters.

But really not impressive stuff. Mueller stood out and Murphy was impactful. Nisbet scoring is a positive and had some good touches and some effort tracking back after giving the ball away. Newell was industrious and cadden was impressive.

First half we looked like a team playing an unfamiliar formation and were very disjointed. Second half, the subs helped and cove tired but still, not real impetus in our play and I don't remember us testing the cove goalie in any serious manner.

Henderson should be very disappointed in his debut, was only interested in getting the ball in-between the lines and on the half turn, doubt he even broke sweat. Unfortunately for him he's always going to be compared to his brother, big boots to fill. Don't think he tried to run past the striker once.

Campbell, had a fantastic ET sliding tackle but generally I thought that was his worst game for Hibs by far. He was really poor on the ball, ponderous and didn't drive the game at all.

Doidge, poor too although unfortunate not to have a goal as he looked onside from where I sat. First start in a while and it showed.

We are world champions in lacking vision and playing an easy backwards pass, but we don't even shuffle the ball side to side with any pace and it's only the wingbacks that give any width. Neither RCB or LCB were willing to overlap the wingback when the opportunity arose. We slow it down far too often and really didn't show any incisiveness to cut cove open until they were dead on their feet.

It was a bit of an experimental line up (that could have easily backfired) but not exactly inspiring stuff imo. Transitional period incoming?

[Jim44]

Don't you think sticking his fingers in his ears is saying he clearly is listening to the criticism from the fans


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I can’t help feeling he might be on the way out of ER.

[silverhibee]

With every respect, we can only judge what he does on the pitch and he’s been dreadful as of late and also had some really poor moments tonight.

However being fair and giving credit where it’s due his tracking back to win the ball in our own half was good and the finish for the goal was quite frankly what we seen from him in the previous season. More of that from him and I’ll be absolutely delighted.

Lost his Dad last year, has had covid and lacking confidence recently, he will come good again if folk back him rather than slating him all the time.

[Stevie Reid]

Well, in the hat for the next round and that's all that really matters.

But really not impressive stuff. Mueller stood out and Murphy was impactful. Nisbet scoring is a positive and had some good touches and some effort tracking back after giving the ball away. Newell was industrious and cadden was impressive.

First half we looked like a team playing an unfamiliar formation and were very disjointed. Second half, the subs helped and cove tired but still, not real impetus in our play and I don't remember us testing the cove goalie in any serious manner.

Henderson should be very disappointed in his debut, was only interested in getting the ball in-between the lines and on the half turn, doubt he even broke sweat. Unfortunately for him he's always going to be compared to his brother, big boots to fill. Don't think he tried to run past the striker once.

Campbell, had a fantastic ET sliding tackle but generally I thought that was his worst game for Hibs by far. He was really poor on the ball, ponderous and didn't drive the game at all.

Doidge, poor too although unfortunate not to have a goal as he looked onside from where I sat. First start in a while and it showed.

We are world champions in lacking vision and playing an easy backwards pass, but we don't even shuffle the ball side to side with any pace and it's only the wingbacks that give any width. Neither RCB or LCB were willing to overlap the wingback when the opportunity arose. We slow it down far too often and really didn't show any incisiveness to cut cove open until they were dead on their feet.

It was a bit of an experimental line up (that could have easily backfired) but not exactly inspiring stuff imo. Transitional period incoming?

Some points I agree with here, but think it’s harsh to say that Doidge was poor. Should have done better with the headed chance, but improvised really well for the overhead effort, had a good knock down that nobody gambled on. Didn’t do much wrong.

First start for months, should have been on the park for much longer.

[WeeRussell]

Don't you think sticking his fingers in his ears is saying he clearly is listening to the criticism from the fans


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Hearing it and therefore putting his fingers in his ears so as not to hear it anymore.

But you already knew that.

[GreenGray]

Cove are a good team so at least we got through. Cadden looked so good and Mueller showed good signs.

Hopefully Nisbet can kick on now as it sounds like Shaun likes him.

Would like to see a hibs team without Newell in it moving forward our best performance under SM was Dundee United away where Newell wasn’t playing.

[Lago]

Not as bad as Joelle Murray who reckoned Cove had the better of the chances !! :confused:
What 2 chances that's all I remember.

[WeeRussell]

Not more than Cadden. His deliveries from wide areas are excellent.

Yeah I did think someone might offer Cadden if I said anyone else.

Fair enough 👍

[silverhibee]

Not as bad as Joelle Murray who reckoned Cove had the better of the chances !! :confused:

She should stay of the bevvy.

[hibbysam]

Hearing it and therefore putting his fingers in his ears so as not to hear it anymore.

But you already knew that.

I would expect a professional footballer not to listen to the criticism from the stands. That’s only going to impact him negatively.

[Northernhibee]

Exactly, play like that every week and he wouldnt get stick.

Even most weeks. I’ve decided to delete the posts I made when I was angry because quite frankly they help nobody but I can forgive a bad performance when a player looks as if they’re doing everything to get out of the slump. There have been weeks I haven’t felt that.

He has to kick on from here. He has the potential to prove a lot of people wrong and I’ll be delighted if I end up looking really stupid. That finish was the player I loved last season.

[hibbysam]

Lost his Dad last year, has had covid and lacking confidence recently, he will come good again if folk back him rather than slating him all the time.

I’m glad he was dropped tonight, felt he needed it. Not because he wasn’t trying like some will convince you but confidence was rock bottom. Came on and was very good tonight, dropping deep and pulling their defence about. Great first touch for his first chance and great run and simple finish for the goal.

[jacomo]

He did. Got to the by-line and put in more inviting balls than most of the team put together.


Sure you were watching the right player?

I think he’s an awful footballer.

[jacomo]

I’m glad he was dropped tonight, felt he needed it. Not because he wasn’t trying like some will convince you but confidence was rock bottom. Came on and was very good tonight, dropping deep and pulling their defence about. Great first touch for his first chance and great run and simple finish for the goal.


:agree:

The chance he put wide was snatched at, sign of a player seriously lacking confidence.

[Stanton Spence]

Hearing it and therefore putting his fingers in his ears so as not to hear it anymore.

But you already knew that.I genuinely didn't know that. I took as he was saying that he's heard the critisisim and here's my answer

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[IncredibleHibee]

Has the penny finally dropped with the ladies and gents of the forum that we have a Cathro mark 2 on our hands?

[Smartie]

Only thing that ultimately matters is that we're through.

There were positives, there were many negatives and I'm sure we'll all have fun bickering about it all in the coming days.

It's early days for our rookie manager and this squad and Rome wasn't built in a day.

I was pretty optimistic after the results and performances in Maloney's first 2 games. I'm pretty concerned following the most recent 2 if the truth be told. This style of play is different to what I've ever really seen before and I don't get it. Maybe we just need time. Maybe we just need better players in certain key positions.

Much work lies ahead though.

[hibbysam]

Has the penny finally dropped with the ladies and gents of the forum that we have a Cathro mark 2 on our hands?

Aye he’s got a 50% higher win rate than Cathro had at Hearts already.

[LunasBoots]

Has the penny finally dropped with the ladies and gents of the forum that we have a Cathro mark 2 on our hands?

Nah, same problem as Ross certain positions are lacking quality and good enough players

[Johnny_Leith]

Some points I agree with here, but think it’s harsh to say that Doidge was poor. Should have done better with the headed chance, but improvised really well for the overhead effort, had a good knock down that nobody gambled on. Didn’t do much wrong.

First start for months, should have been on the park for much longer.

I agree he needs more.minutes to get up to speed. Few moments from him were poor for me that he takes advantage of when he's sharper.

He judges a ball to go over the defender and rather than bring it down on his chest when he'd be one on one he tried.to.head it back across. Another when in the first few minutes he lost the ball after have 2/3 opportunities to offload it.

Maybe poor by his standards is a better description?

[Tommy75]

Has the penny finally dropped with the ladies and gents of the forum that we have a Cathro mark 2 on our hands?

No.

[Jones28]

Has the penny finally dropped with the ladies and gents of the forum that we have a Cathro mark 2 on our hands?

I’ve read a lot of ***** on this board but this is really up there.

[Johnny_Leith]

And what's with having absolutely everyone back when defending a corner? Throughout the whole game??

No out ball, no chance of a counter attack, I'm too young to remember but apparently that's Alex miller behaviour?

[Callum_62]

Has the penny finally dropped with the ladies and gents of the forum that we have a Cathro mark 2 on our hands?Lol

Hilarious

Played 4

Won 3

Lost 1

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[Skol]

Only thing that ultimately matters is that we're through.

There were positives, there were many negatives and I'm sure we'll all have fun bickering about it all in the coming days.

It's early days for our rookie manager and this squad and Rome wasn't built in a day.

I was pretty optimistic after the results and performances in Maloney's first 2 games. I'm pretty concerned following the most recent 2 if the truth be told. This style of play is different to what I've ever really seen before and I don't get it. Maybe we just need time. Maybe we just need better players in certain key positions.

Much work lies ahead though.

Spot on. Tonight was as poor as I have seen hibs in a long time. Ok we were short of a few players but let’s be honest, that was worse than anything under Ross.

On the plus side the team 5hat finished the game were better than the one that started

[WeeRussell]

I genuinely didn't know that. I took as he was saying that he's heard the critisisim and here's my answer

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Sorry Stanton, I think we’re actually on the same page. I mistook your reply for a pedantic/smart remark 👍

[hhibs]

You mean sarcastic?

No I wasn’t: I like Macey. He’s the least of our worries.

No I meant ironic

You on other hand are trying to be sarcastic.

Macey is one of our problems,I do not rate him,but that is my opinion , hope that is OK with you.

[Brightside]

Delighted for Niz getting his goal. Worked really hard and did more in the centre of midfield than those whose position it is!

[Jones28]

No I meant ironic

You on other hand are trying to be sarcastic.

What was ironic about my post exactly?

[WeeRussell]

Sure you were watching the right player?

I think he’s an awful footballer.

I’m sure. I didn’t say he was a great footballer.. in fact I’m far from convinced.

But he looked sharper. And he got to the by-line more than most and produced a few decent balls.

That’s all.

[GreenCastle]

Has the penny finally dropped with the ladies and gents of the forum that we have a Cathro mark 2 on our hands?

Brora Rangers 2 v Hearts 1 -

[Unseen work]

Spot on. Tonight was as poor as I have seen hibs in a long time. Ok we were short of a few players but let’s be honest, that was worse than anything under Ross.

On the plus side the team 5hat finished the game were better than the one that started

I’d love to see Ross pick a team without

Porteous
McGinn
Clarke
Rocky
Magennis
Melkersen
Boyle

We had hardly and without numerous first picks

[Stanton Spence]

Sorry Stanton, I think we’re actually on the same page. I mistook your reply for a pedantic/smart remark [emoji106]No probs mate [emoji106][emoji2532]

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[jacomo]

Has the penny finally dropped with the ladies and gents of the forum that we have a Cathro mark 2 on our hands?


Er…

[Callum_62]

Hibernian manager Shaun Maloney:*"I'm happy to still be in the cup, but for sure the performance can be better. I knew it was going to be threat of a game.

"Their players aren't League 1 players and their manager isn't a League 1 manager. I have to be happy with the players. We did create chances and in cup competitions it's about being in it."



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[JohnM1875]

Hibernian manager Shaun Maloney:*"I'm happy to still be in the cup, but for sure the performance can be better. I knew it was going to be threat of a game.

"Their players aren't League 1 players and their manager isn't a League 1 manager. I have to be happy with the players. We did create chances and in cup competitions it's about being in it."



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Can't really argue with anything he's said there really.

[jacomo]

I’m sure. I didn’t say he was a great footballer.. in fact I’m far from convinced.

But he looked sharper. And he got to the by-line more than most and produced a few decent balls.

That’s all.


Listen, if he comes good then it can only help us. Personally I’d have cut our losses and kept MacKay rather than sending him out on loan, but maybe it will work out.

[truehibernian]

Has the penny finally dropped with the ladies and gents of the forum that we have a Cathro mark 2 on our hands?



Your manager lost to Brora and Alloa in cups - Marvel at that Hulk :aok:

[GreenGray]

Has the penny finally dropped with the ladies and gents of the forum that we have a Cathro mark 2 on our hands?

Hope this is a joke Jesus Christ man

[WeeRussell]

Has the penny finally dropped with the ladies and gents of the forum that we have a Cathro mark 2 on our hands?

Going for the more traditional meaning of the word incredible with your username?

See ya 👋

[Stevie Reid]

I agree he needs more.minutes to get up to speed. Few moments from him were poor for me that he takes advantage of when he's sharper.

He judges a ball to go over the defender and rather than bring it down on his chest when he'd be one on one he tried.to.head it back across. Another when in the first few minutes he lost the ball after have 2/3 opportunities to offload it.

Maybe poor by his standards is a better description?

Aye, fair dos man.

[WeeRussell]

Listen, if he comes good then it can only help us. Personally I’d have cut our losses and kept MacKay rather than sending him out on loan, but maybe it will work out.

I probably agree. Hopefully Maloney is seeing enough of him that he thinks he’ll be useful enough to stick around for now.

[bayhibs]

Spot on. Tonight was as poor as I have seen hibs in a long time. Ok we were short of a few players but let’s be honest, that was worse than anything under Ross.

On the plus side the team 5hat finished the game were better than the one that started

I don't think tonight was worse than the 3-0 defeat by Dundee United in October.

[The Tubs]

And what's with having absolutely everyone back when defending a corner? Throughout the whole game??

No out ball, no chance of a counter attack, I'm too young to remember but apparently that's Alex miller behaviour?

I was worried that we had only one centre half for the whole game and I’m sure the players and maloney were too.

[loanheadhibby]

Spot on. Tonight was as poor as I have seen hibs in a long time. Ok we were short of a few players but let’s be honest, that was worse than anything under Ross.

On the plus side the team 5hat finished the game were better than the one that started

Just back and that was awful. I can’t believe how bad we were tonight. Major surgery required. Thought Mueller looked ok in flashes. Stevenson did ok.

[easty]

Delighted for Niz getting his goal. Worked really hard and did more in the centre of midfield than those whose position it is!

That’s how I saw it as well. Not sure what a few others were watching.

[Stanton Spence]

I would expect a professional footballer not to listen to the criticism from the stands. That’s only going to impact him negatively.Every footballer at the level we play at really has no option but to listen to "stands" nowadays. It doesn't stop after the final whistle now with social media etc there's no escape.
I've been quite critical off the laddie past few weeks so I actually quite like his response to scoring the winner tonight. It shows that he's listening and he's also trying to sort it out by doing what he done tonight.
He's got a bit to go yet but scoring goals is the best way to get there

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[silverhibee]

Cove are a decent team and cruising Div 1, lot of money being ploughed into them, they showed that last season and as you say Hartley will have them pumped up for it.

Impressed by Doig and Cadden out wide, both put in some cracking crosses for no one to get on the end of them. Mueller looks a class act, 2 good feet, clever on the ball and very direct, that run out will do him the world of good. Henderson showed some nice touches and his movement was excellent, again another who tired due to lack of games but done well. Midfield again slow and ponderous until the last 15 mins of extra time when we were really going for it, it's going to take a couple of windows and most of Boyle's money to get the players we need to play a quick short passing game that Maloney wants.

It wasn't great tonight but we're through, that's the main thing.

Agree big chap, it wasn’t pleasant tonight but we are in the hat and Hartley is heading back up to Aberdeen greeting, Maloney is trying different things and it will take a bit of time but folk are wanting miracles straight away, maybe our .net no better should show us how it’s done, oh, they didn’t make it in the game, wonder why, if that’s Boyle gone then it needs spent on the midfield as folk like Alan are not the answer going forward, we need better and I’m sure our manager knows that. :flag:

[LaMotta]

Sure you were watching the right player?

I think he’s an awful footballer.

:agree::agree:

He put in one cross from memory...won a corner another time. Certainly don't remember much more.

Lewis played a decent pass to him early in extra time...first touch was awful.

He must be doing something in training, cos he has showed nothing on the pitch in his whole time here.

[silverhibee]

I can’t help feeling he might be on the way out of ER.

No chance Jim.

[Silky]

I would expect a professional footballer not to listen to the criticism from the stands. That’s only going to impact him negatively.

If it impacts one of our own players negatively then why do it? If he wants to stick his fingers in his ears fair enough. Just like some fans want to shout abuse and criticism at him. Again, fair enough. What's the saying, if you give it out, you have to be able to take it too.

[B.H.F.C]

That was grim. But grim as it was, we could/should have been a couple of goals up at half time.

We badly need a midfielder. And we’re going to need to get some pace in to the team. Mueller did show some promise but I’m not sure he was meant to stay on the pitch for as long as he did, will do him good though.

[bigwheel]

One point to make . Well done to Hartley. They are a decent side. Will easily cope with the Championship..

[hibbysam]

If it impacts one of our own players negatively then why do it? If he wants to stick his fingers in his ears fair enough. Just like some fans want to shout abuse and criticism at him. Again, fair enough. What's the saying, if you give it out, you have to be able to take it too.

I agree, I wouldn’t do it myself. Was simply answering the point that Nisbet should be listening to the criticism from the crowd, when in reality that’s always going to be magnified one way or the other.

[Shrekko]

That’s how I saw it as well. Not sure what a few others were watching.

I’ve been a critic of Nisbet and he’s deserved it when he’s been poor but I’m really surprised anyone would say he didn’t play very well tonight.

It shows you that views always have to be entrenched.

[GreenGray]

Bare in mind we had one proper centre half tonight. This game plan will benefit from Porteous playing who is confident on the ball.

Certainly wasn’t a worse performance than Livingston or Dundee United at home under JR.

[Brightside]

That was grim. But grim as it was, we could/should have been a couple of goals up at half time.

We badly need a midfielder. And we’re going to need to get some pace in to the team. Mueller did show some promise but I’m not sure he was meant to stay on the pitch for as long as he did, will do him good though.

I agree on the midfielder. I know we don’t have SJM but we really need someone like him. Someone more dynamic that can take the ball from the back and quickly turn it into an attacking phase of play.

[Brightside]

Bare in mind we had one proper centre half tonight. This game plan will benefit from Porteous playing who is confident on the ball.

Certainly wasn’t a worse performance than Livingston or Dundee United at home under JR.

We where fine in defence tbh. It was the lack of a midfield wanting the ball.

[IncredibleHibee]

I MAY have been on the wind up with the "Cathro Mark 2" comment :hahaha::fishin:

[GreenGray]

We where fine in defence tbh. It was the lack of a midfield wanting the ball.

True as well, I think Newell should be dropped we looked good against Dundee United without him. He’s far too negative

[Smartie]

One point to make . Well done to Hartley. They are a decent side. Will easily cope with the Championship..

I thought they were better than some of the sides we play in our league.

And I think a few of our players will probably be stronger for having come through a tough test than they might have been had they steamrollered a bunch of no-hopers.

[ElginHibbie]

True as well, I think Newell should be dropped we looked good against Dundee United without him. He’s far too negative

Thought he was good tonight, much more trying to get the ball forward. If anyone is to be dropped from the 3 that started in midfield tonight be Campbell for me

[silverhibee]

I’m glad he was dropped tonight, felt he needed it. Not because he wasn’t trying like some will convince you but confidence was rock bottom. Came on and was very good tonight, dropping deep and pulling their defence about. Great first touch for his first chance and great run and simple finish for the goal.

He could have had no complaints when the team was announced, but done well when he came on, there is a good player in him but as we have said confidence is very low just now, hopefully SM will get the best out of him and he can have a better 2nd half to the season.

[silverhibee]

Has the penny finally dropped with the ladies and gents of the forum that we have a Cathro mark 2 on our hands?

Deary me.

[jacomo]

Just back and that was awful. I can’t believe how bad we were tonight. Major surgery required. Thought Mueller looked ok in flashes. Stevenson did ok.


Sorry but no. 2 players on their debut, another first game in months and out of position, one centre back with Lewis filling in, one perfectly good goal chalked off for no reason and a whole load of bad decisions that went against us.

It was far from great but we got the job done.

[GreenGray]

Thought he was good tonight, much more trying to get the ball forward. If anyone is to be dropped from the 3 that started in midfield tonight be Campbell for me

Newell did look slightly better tonight tbf but other night he was awful. I don’t think JDH and Newell should play together as too similar and JDH is the better player to me.

[silverhibee]

Spot on. Tonight was as poor as I have seen hibs in a long time. Ok we were short of a few players but let’s be honest, that was worse than anything under Ross.

On the plus side the team 5hat finished the game were better than the one that started

If Ross was still in charge we would have lost tonight, it was a big game and Jack didn’t do them. :cb

[HFC93]

Has the penny finally dropped with the ladies and gents of the forum that we have a Cathro mark 2 on our hands?

I've read some amount of nonsense from 'hibs' fans on here and social media in the past few hours but this tops the lot. Congratulations.

[jacomo]

One more thing… why is Henderson wearing the number 80?

This must be the highest squad number worn by a Hibs player, by some distance?

[Smartie]

We where fine in defence tbh. It was the lack of a midfield wanting the ball.

The defence had a wobbly first 10 minutes or so. They were actually very good after that.

Hanlon was solid and I thought the makeshift centre halves next to him all did very well too.

The problems were further forward. Defence to midfield was very disjointed and we struggled to get anything going during the first half whilst being pretty heavily pressed by Cove. Middle to front was pretty atrocious for the most part but we still managed to create what should have been enough chances to have won the game.

[gaz1875]

I thought it was a strange starting line up and strange subs. Instead of going to two up front for some cracking deliveries from Cadden, he takes our biggest threat in Doidge off for Nisbet, rather than taking Campbell off who looked lost and moves Campbell to right back. Then brings on another holding midfielder. Everything just seems odd, maybe he's trying to confuse the opposition. We're through which is the main thing, I just hope he's not playing players for the sake of giving them a game. They need to form partnerships not have different team mates every game.

[hibbysam]

I thought it was a strange starting line up and strange subs. Instead of going to two up front for some cracking deliveries from Cadden, he takes our biggest threat in Doidge off for Nisbet, rather than taking Campbell off who looked lost and moves Campbell to right back. Then brings on another holding midfielder. Everything just seems odd, maybe he's trying to confuse the opposition. We're through which is the main thing, I just hope he's not playing players for the sake of giving them a game. They need to form partnerships not have different team mates every game.

We had 1 centre half available. It was always going to be makeshift. Maloney plays 3-4-3, that’s not going to change. He’s not just going to randomly Chuck 2 boys up top. Campbell played centre back, not right back. I’m guessing Hallberg was knackered just returning from a long term injury therefore they only option was moving Campbell back and bringing JDH on.

[RossScott1991]

Impressed with Mueller.

I think JDH is garbage, just my opinion. Really see him being replaced long term

[jacomo]

We had 1 centre half available. It was always going to be makeshift. Maloney plays 3-4-3, that’s not going to change. He’s not just going to randomly Chuck 2 boys up top. Campbell played centre back, not right back. I’m guessing Hallberg was knackered just returning from a long term injury therefore they only option was moving Campbell back and bringing JDH on.


Interesting that we did switch to a back 4 late on. Food for thought for our new manager perhaps.

Bobby Martinez is wedded to a three man back line too but far too inflexible imo.

[gaz1875]

We had 1 centre half available. It was always going to be makeshift. Maloney plays 3-4-3, that’s not going to change. He’s not just going to randomly Chuck 2 boys up top. Campbell played centre back, not right back. I’m guessing Hallberg was knackered just returning from a long term injury therefore they only option was moving Campbell back and bringing JDH on.

Campbell was playing just behind Doidge my point being swap Campbell for Nisbet. As soon as Doidge went off 4 crosses went into the box without a striker there in the space of 10 minutes. They offered hardly a threat and we finished with 2 holding midfielders?

[Brightside]

I’d have liked to have seen Doidge stay on with Niz for a while. With the Norwegian boy to come it’s going to be interesting to see how he can get the best from the attacking 3/4.

[hibbysam]

Interesting that we did switch to a back 4 late on. Food for thought for our new manager perhaps.

Bobby Martinez is wedded to a three man back line too but far too inflexible imo.

I’m not sure we did, unless I missed it, Doig and Cadden were still high, Campbell was in beside Hanlon and Stevenson, JDH and Newell in the middle with the front three of Scott Nisbet and Murphy.

[hibbysam]

Campbell was playing just behind Doidge my point being swap Campbell for Nisbet. As soon as Doidge went off 4 crosses went into the box without a striker there in the space of 10 minutes. They offered hardly a threat and we finished with 2 holding midfielders?

And two centre halves that were bombing on along with two wing backs who were playing as wingers. Hardly a threat doesn’t mean just neglecting the shape we had.

[gaz1875]

And two centre halves that were bombing on along with two wing backs who were playing as wingers. Hardly a threat doesn’t mean just neglecting the shape we had.

I wasn't sure we had a shape to be honest, that's why I said it all seemed odd.

[LunasBoots]

Can not just go back to playing Doidge and Nisbet up top....

[Smartie]

I thought it was a strange starting line up and strange subs. Instead of going to two up front for some cracking deliveries from Cadden, he takes our biggest threat in Doidge off for Nisbet, rather than taking Campbell off who looked lost and moves Campbell to right back. Then brings on another holding midfielder. Everything just seems odd, maybe he's trying to confuse the opposition. We're through which is the main thing, I just hope he's not playing players for the sake of giving them a game. They need to form partnerships not have different team mates every game.

I agree that it was a strange starting line up and strange subs - but I do think that they were enforced by circumstance and almost any team Maloney picked would have looked odd.

The makeshift defence actually did fine and I can't think of any combination other than the one chosen that would have done better within Maloney's chosen formation.

I get what you're saying about Cadden and his deliveries, not sure if having 2 up front is the solution. I saluted Nisbet for a cracking bit of battling back to regain possession. The team was very flat at that point and it looked like he was keen and eager to make an impression. The problem when he's back there though is that it's tough for him to get into the box and get on the end of deliveries. For a striker he often looks like he's hiding when we're close to getting into good positions to get the ball across the box. One time in extra time, shooting up the hill, Doig hit the byeline and put a good ball in that James Scott nearly got on the end of. To be truthful, he probably made the run too late but it was the sort of run that Nisbet never makes, the one across the front of the defender where the ball often goes. There are goals in this team for a striker who wants to make that run and Cadden looks like he has an awful lot to offer playing in that wide role. I'm just not sure that we've got any strikers who have what it takes to get on the end of those deliveries.

I find it a bit hard to see where goals come from with this team. We looked small and a bit impotent from set pieces. The strikers didn't do anything like enough with the good crosses that were put in. Do we have what it takes to play killer balls in behind the defence? We don't do big man/ little man hit long balls. Our free kicks are pish. Nobody seems to have a strike from long range.

I guess the positive is that we seem to be pretty good at getting to the byeline and getting crosses in, which we did frequently tonight and unltimately our goal came from that. If we can just figure out a way to get someone on the end of them then we might be ok.

[B.H.F.C]

I’d have liked to have seen Doidge stay on with Niz for a while. With the Norwegian boy to come it’s going to be interesting to see how he can get the best from the attacking 3/4.

It might be a case of just stumbling on something and it clicking as much as anything. I think Mueller is going to get a decent opportunity and I think he’ll play Nisbet. That other position is the one most up for grabs I think.

[LunasBoots]

I wasn't sure we had a shape to be honest, that's why I said it all seemed odd.

Felt that aswell but then noticed that the central midfield was just not there, totally out of shape

[gaz1875]

It might be a case of just stumbling on something and it clicking as much as anything. I think Mueller is going to get a decent opportunity and I think he’ll play Nisbet. That other position is the one most up for grabs I think.

Mueller was doing well switching from side to side looking for gaps and I think more suited for a hold up striker like Doidge who will also get on the end of his knock downs. Nisbet will be his choice I agree with you.

[Skol]

I’d love to see Ross pick a team without

Porteous
McGinn
Clarke
Rocky
Magennis
Melkersen
Boyle

We had hardly and without numerous first picks

Ross didn’t have Clarke rocky or melters on to choose from. Magennis hadn’t been available for ages. Yes we missed mcginnn and porteous but defence wasn’t the issue

Boyle is a miss.

We also had Henderson and mueller who we didn’t have before

[hibeejeebies]

The biggest question arising from last night:

Why in the name of the wee man was the camera on the other side?

Took me about 25 minutes to work out where I was

[JimBHibees]

Your manager lost to Brora and Alloa in cups - Marvel at that Hulk :aok:

Lol

[J-C]

The defence had a wobbly first 10 minutes or so. They were actually very good after that.

Hanlon was solid and I thought the makeshift centre halves next to him all did very well too.

The problems were further forward. Defence to midfield was very disjointed and we struggled to get anything going during the first half whilst being pretty heavily pressed by Cove. Middle to front was pretty atrocious for the most part but we still managed to create what should have been enough chances to have won the game.


:agree:

Newell sits far too deep especially if we're playing 3 at the back, there's no need for a defensive midfielder in there as the back 3 cover that position, at times he was so deep we had a back 4 with 2 wingbacks and Campbell all on his own in midfield being overrun, when that happens there's no out ball from the defenders, so the inevitable diagonal punt into the corners for Cadden/Doig to chase.

[hibbysam]

The biggest question arising from last night:

Why in the name of the wee man was the camera on the other side?

Took me about 25 minutes to work out where I was

Likewise! So weird. Seen the big flags down to the left and said that’s not going to go down too well with the main standers 😂 then we started shooting in ten opposite direction to normal. Sheer confusion.

[hibbysam]

:agree:

Newell sits far too deep especially if we're playing 3 at the back, there's no need for a defensive midfielder in there as the back 3 cover that position, at times he was so deep we had a back 4 with 2 wingbacks and Campbell all on his own in midfield being overrun, when that happens there's no out ball from the defenders, so the inevitable diagonal punt into the corners for Cadden/Doig to chase.

We weren’t overrun in the middle of the park at all last night. In fact the only dangers we had was when we were attacking, our midfield was high up the park, Megginson dropped into the hole and no centre back went tight. Meant he could turn and they ended up 3 v 3 a couple of times. I’d love to see a heat map of Newell’s game as he’s everywhere.

[SHODAN]

Evident that Maloney made a few rookie mistakes last night in playing a much changed team, with a few who'd never played for us before, against a team on a good run of form.

We won, and that's the main thing, and he'll have learned from it. Onwards and upwards.

[Skol]

:agree:

Newell sits far too deep especially if we're playing 3 at the back, there's no need for a defensive midfielder in there as the back 3 cover that position, at times he was so deep we had a back 4 with 2 wingbacks and Campbell all on his own in midfield being overrun, when that happens there's no out ball from the defenders, so the inevitable diagonal punt into the corners for Cadden/Doig to chase.
Newe had to drop back to give the defence an option. Everyone else bombed forward meaning we had no midfield and quite often just hoofed it forward. I thought we really lacked a midfield presence last night.

[MWHIBBIES]

:agree:

Newell sits far too deep especially if we're playing 3 at the back, there's no need for a defensive midfielder in there as the back 3 cover that position, at times he was so deep we had a back 4 with 2 wingbacks and Campbell all on his own in midfield being overrun, when that happens there's no out ball from the defenders, so the inevitable diagonal punt into the corners for Cadden/Doig to chase.

Newell utterly ran the show. Absolutely crazy anyone could even think he was a problem last night. Won the ball, moved it forward, drove us on. There is every need for a midfielder to come and bring it out of defence in any formation. 2 strikers like Cove played against 3 defenders means a midfielder must do that. Campbell was honking last night.

[hibbysam]

Newell utterly ran the show. Absolutely crazy anyone could even think he was a problem last night. Won the ball, moved it forward, drove us on. There is every need for a midfielder to come and bring it out of defence in any formation. 2 strikers like Cove played against 3 defenders means a midfielder must do that. Campbell was honking last night.

This.

[Allant1981]

For me Joe newell was head and shoulders above every midfielder on the pitch last night, he wont always be great but he is integral to our team

[JohnM1875]

For me Joe newell was head and shoulders above every midfielder on the pitch last night, he wont always be great but he is integral to our team

He was. I still think he can be too negative at times, but he's getting better at that and he's our best central midfielder right now.

One thing worth remembering is he was used mainly as a winger the rest of his career. So this is really only his second season in a central midfield role at a high level.

[B.H.F.C]

Newell utterly ran the show. Absolutely crazy anyone could even think he was a problem last night. Won the ball, moved it forward, drove us on. There is every need for a midfielder to come and bring it out of defence in any formation. 2 strikers like Cove played against 3 defenders means a midfielder must do that. Campbell was honking last night.

Your last sentence is accurate. Your first one isn’t. Think folk confuse having a lot of the ball with running or dictating games or whatever. The ball moves so slowly it’s so easy to defend against.

[WeeRussell]

Your last sentence is accurate. Your first one isn’t. Think folk confuse having a lot of the ball with running or dictating games or whatever. The ball moves so slowly it’s so easy to defend against.

This was one of the main frustrations for me last night I think. We really didn't get the ball moving quickly and slick enough last night. The rare times we did inject a bit of pace (or as their legs really began to go), we cut them open and looked relatively dangerous.

There wasn't much of a show last night and I really don't think any of us utterly ran anything. But we move on, and another win in our next game and things will start to look decent again.

I would really like to see at least one new face in the centre of midfield this transfer window though. Preferably two.

[Unseen work]

This was one of the main frustrations for me last night I think. We really didn't get the ball moving quickly and slick enough last night. The rare times we did inject a bit of pace (or as their legs really began to go), we cut them open and looked relatively dangerous.

There wasn't much of a show last night and I really don't think any of us utterly ran anything. But we move on, and another win in our next game and things will start to look decent again.

I would really like to see at least one new face in the centre of midfield this transfer window though. Preferably two.

Agree with what you’re saying to a certain degree about speed of play etc and you want it quicker and 100% you do. But I think Maloney is conscious that you can’t play like that for 90 minutes and if the speed goes up you’re maybe more likely to lose possession and be countered.

I think he wants us to have the majority of the ball and then pick our moments to go forward - but when we do we need to be a lot more direct and it can’t come back.

Porteous, Clarke and Magennis are 3 huge players that would instantly up the tempo of the game as they’re all good on the ball, will step into play and are quick. Once those 3 are back and we get Boyles replacement in it could look very good.

[MWHIBBIES]

Your last sentence is accurate. Your first one isn’t. Think folk confuse having a lot of the ball with running or dictating games or whatever. The ball moves so slowly it’s so easy to defend against.

Newell was moving it around quickly and positively

[blackpoolhibs]

2nd half Newell showed us the player he can be, the first half he showed me the player i want nowhere near the team.

[Since452]

Newell utterly ran the show. Absolutely crazy anyone could even think he was a problem last night. Won the ball, moved it forward, drove us on. There is every need for a midfielder to come and bring it out of defence in any formation. 2 strikers like Cove played against 3 defenders means a midfielder must do that. Campbell was honking last night.

Some of his passes out wide were sublime. If that was Scott Allan...

[hibbysam]

2nd half Newell showed us the player he can be, the first half he showed me the player i want nowhere near the team.

Couldn’t disagree more. Shame he was playing beside someone for a large chunk who couldn’t string two passes together.

[B.H.F.C]

Newell was moving it around quickly and positively

Occasionally. Not for the most part.

Can do it but doesn’t most of the time.

[Coach Jon]

Newell gave away more free kicks than anybody else on the pitch, most of them needless, very frustrating to watch.

[Lendo]

The biggest question arising from last night:

Why in the name of the wee man was the camera on the other side?

Took me about 25 minutes to work out where I was

I thought I was going mad when i noticed that. Convinced myself it has always been from the East.

[Pagan Hibernia]

The biggest question arising from last night:

Why in the name of the wee man was the camera on the other side?

Took me about 25 minutes to work out where I was

was it to spare a few blushes? The west was slightly more populated than the east

[PatHead]

Occasionally. Not for the most part.

Can do it but doesn’t most of the time.

That is what frustrates me about Newell. He seems to be much better than a player who passed sideways and back far too often.

[MWHIBBIES]

That is what frustrates me about Newell. He seems to be much better than a player who passed sideways and back far too often.

He is just one who knows keeping it is better than a hopeful pass. Mcgeouch, Fyvie etc got the same crap. 3 great players

[gaz1875]

Newell gave away more free kicks than anybody else on the pitch, most of them needless, very frustrating to watch.

He was booked after his 5th rugby tackle. He needs to stop the shirt pulling when players waltz past him.

[MWHIBBIES]

He was booked after his 5th rugby tackle. He needs to stop the shirt pulling when players waltz past him.

Actually, its exactly what he should do if someone beats him. He is the deepest midfielder, if they get passed him they are running at the defence. Watch any top side, the tactical fouling is unreal. Man City especially. Has to be done.

[B.H.F.C]

He is just one who knows keeping it is better than a hopeful pass. Mcgeouch, Fyvie etc got the same crap. 3 great players

Thought McGeough was a brilliant player who actually dictated games and passed with purpose, which I don’t think Newell does.

[PatHead]

He is just one who knows keeping it is better than a hopeful pass. Mcgeouch, Fyvie etc got the same crap. 3 great players

It's not crap.

It's easy to keep the ball if he just passed it back to Hanlon or Porto. He is capable of so much more. Keeping the ball doesn't mean passing it square or back most of the time. He often slows the game down by doing that which allows the opposition to regroup. He also never shoots when he is around the box. We should be getting goals from our midfielders.
I just feel he could give us so much more and find him frustrating.

[gaz1875]

He is just one who knows keeping it is better than a hopeful pass. Mcgeouch, Fyvie etc got the same crap. 3 great players

He done plenty hopeless passes yesterday. He needs to up his pace and at least look for a quick pass, he doesn't have to do that all the time but more often than he does just now.

[MWHIBBIES]

He done plenty hopeless passes yesterday. He needs to up his pace and at least look for a quick pass, he doesn't have to do that all the time but more often than he does just now.Joe Newell really did not do many hopeless passes yesterday. 2nd half he was easily the best player on the pitch.


It's not crap. He is capable of so much more. Keeping the ball doesn't mean passing it square or back most of the time. He often slows the game down by doing that which allows the opposition to regroup. He also never shoots when he is around the box. We should be getting goals from our midfielders.
I just feel he could give us so much more and find him frustrating.

Maybe he passes back and square when there is zero movement around him. Tell me, which midfielders are moving to him or off their man or in behind to give him progressive options?

[gaz1875]

Actually, its exactly what he should do if someone beats him. He is the deepest midfielder, if they get passed him they are running at the defence. Watch any top side, the tactical fouling is unreal. Man City especially. Has to be done.

He does it all over the pitch not just last midfielder which makes no difference, its horrible and predictable. He gets booked too often and concedes too many fouls.

[flash]

He done plenty hopeless passes yesterday. He needs to up his pace and at least look for a quick pass, he doesn't have to do that all the time but more often than he does just now.

That first sentence is just not true is it?

[gaz1875]

Joe Newell really did not do many hopeless passes yesterday. 2nd half he was easily the best player on the pitch.



Maybe he passes back and square when there is zero movement around him. Tell me, which midfielders are moving to him or off their man or in behind to give him progressive options?

More than he should have against Cove Rangers with the amount of players to pass to in front of him.

[gaz1875]

That first sentence is just not true is it?

It is true, at the start of the second half he hit the ball aimlessly upfront 3-4 times in a row. I would love to see the data on the players performances so we can all agree with what we think we seen. I would never have guessed we had one more shot on target against Cove last night until I seen the match stats, just as an example.

[B.H.F.C]

It's not crap.

It's easy to keep the ball if he just passed it back to Hanlon or Porto. He is capable of so much more. Keeping the ball doesn't mean passing it square or back most of the time. He often slows the game down by doing that which allows the opposition to regroup. He also never shoots when he is around the box. We should be getting goals from our midfielders.
I just feel he could give us so much more and find him frustrating.

Totally agree. And I don’t buy the lack of movement from others stuff. In this system Cadden and Doig are constantly on the move. If you’re looking at the team that played last night. Doidge obviously stays pretty central but he’ll look to take the ball in if you get it in to him. Mueller wasn’t exactly static last night. Henderson was also available all night. Thought he was poor when he got it, but he was always wanting it.

Big problem with Newell, for me, is that he takes so many touches and takes so long on the ball that any space players might have has totally closed up.

[J-C]

2nd half Newell showed us the player he can be, the first half he showed me the player i want nowhere near the team.


This.

And the reason he's is such a frustrating player, at times he looks like the leagues best midfielder and at other times he's the pass back king slowing everything down to a halt.

[Highwayman]

Thought McGeough was a brilliant player who actually dictated games and passed with purpose, which I don’t think Newell does.

There is absolutely no comparison between McGeoch and Newell.McGeoch knew how to control a game and how to calm things down when they were getting a bit frantic.

Newell could leave Hibs tomorrow and I for one wouldn’t miss him at all.

[JimBHibees]

This.

And the reason he's is such a frustrating player, at times he looks like the leagues best midfielder and at other times he's the pass back king slowing everything down to a halt.

Agree he is very inconsistent imo

[Tambo]

No doubt Newell is frustrating at times as he has shown he is an intelligent player when he looks to go forward.

Thought Thursday second half in particular he looked to play it forward more often and he put through a lovely ball for Doig.

He wins some tackles and he loses some but at least he trys to get a foot in.

[Callum_62]

There is absolutely no comparison between McGeoch and Newell.McGeoch knew how to control a game and how to calm things down when they were getting a bit frantic.

Newell could leave Hibs tomorrow and I for one wouldn’t miss him at all.I think you'd be sorry

He might not be perfect but he has alot of the attributes we need - it just needs a bit of tweaking to his game

It would be folly to lose that from the squad

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[Scooter]

Just watched the highlights. Highlights defo give the impression we bossed that and could have had a good few goals. Trying to not decided if I've been too harsh initially after the game

[J-C]

Just watched the highlights. Highlights defo give the impression we bossed that and could have had a good few goals. Trying to not decided if I've been too harsh initially after the game

1st half we were brutal, 2nd much better and a lot better in injury time when we had to really go for it. Overall a bit disappointing with the score but not the result, new system and a makeshift team, onwards.

[Tambo]

For such a poor performance according to some we did create 17 chances even if only 4 on target.

It seems like Maloney is happy to be patient and keep the ball but sometimes I wish we played with a more agressive and faster tempo.

[B.H.F.C]

For such a poor performance according to some we did create 17 chances even if only 4 on target.

It seems like Maloney is happy to be patient and keep the ball but sometimes I wish we played with a more agressive and faster tempo.

I think he wants us to be more aggressive with the ball, it’s something he actually mentioned after the Celtic game. You can see how high up the park he wants Doig and Cadden playing. If one is crossing it the other is generally trying to get in on the other side. Doig should have probably scored the other night but did get the assist and Cadden scored up at Utd and should probably have a couple of assists to his name over the last couple of games. It’s difficult with the midfield currently available though, the ball is slow to reach the final third and that’s going to need to change over time.

[I'm Spartacus]

I know for a fact he'll be the hardest working manager we'll have had for many years, ask the back room team how intense it already is and the work they are putting in out of hours analysing everything.
Disappointing not to put a few by Cove, but we are in the draw and we move on.