Livingston v Hibs (Wednesday)

[cabbageandribs1875]

am i the only one that is more angry with our players tonight instead of jack ross ?

[MWHIBBIES]

Pretty much as bad as it gets tonight. Might be time to start looking for a new gaffer. Disgrace that we've ended up here again. Disgrace

[truehibernian]

Alex Neill suddenly back in Scotland being a pundit 🤔 aye, okay then………….

[SteveHFC]

Think he’s lost the entire support tonight. No way back for him.

[NC1875]

Can't wait to see what the Ross apologists have to say after this latest pathetic performance!

Let me guess, probably Mathie's fault.

Nisbet should never pull on a jersey again, he's a ****ing imposter.

You’re spot on. It will be everyone but Jack Ross’s fault.

Boring uninspiring and his teams reflect it.

Time to go

[easty]

How do we go from one defeat in our first 13 games this season…to 7 defeats in the next 10???

What the **** is going on?

[Ronniekirk]

Captain and vice both sent off, a team of imposters the lot of them and time for Ross to go before we are in severe trouble .

I think we already are in severe trouble


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[S4uzee]

The manager probably has to go after that but, other than Boyle and Porto, this is a hard set of players to like.

I’ve been saying exactly the same. A very unlikable Hibs team as I can remember.

[A Hi-Bee]

Ross has till the 19th to save his career at Hibs.

More failure,he has to go with no January window. IMO

Don't think we can wait that long, business is business he has to go, we need to cut our losses.

[Magpie]

Pretty much as bad as it gets tonight. Might be time to start looking for a new gaffer. Disgrace that we've ended up here again. Disgrace

You know it’s bad when you’ve changed your tune.

[LaMotta]

He’s not going to resign with a cup final next week.

Exactly. People can't really think he will be gone before then, surely.....

[S4uzee]

Pretty much as bad as it gets tonight. Might be time to start looking for a new gaffer. Disgrace that we've ended up here again. Disgrace

But you were adamant he’d turn it around

[Davy Mac]

Can't wait to see what the Ross apologists have to say after this latest pathetic performance!

Let me guess, probably Mathie's fault.

Nisbet should never pull on a jersey again, he's a ****ing imposter.

You see, when a player head has been turned, they are done.

If he wanted to go to Birmingham, ****ing sell him.

No doubt he could probably play at a higher level but the lack of disrespect is sickening, I hate this bunch of players, this is not my club for sure.

[Callum_62]

That’s me done with him now tbh. Thats as poor a game as I’ve seen in years. Started well. Lost a goal. Then nothing. The shape change 2nd half was stupid and the changes actually made us worse. I’ve stuck up for him for a while but this is now alarming.Probably should have stuck with Murphy

I can't think of his replacement doing anytging but loose possession

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[madhatter]

Not just the worst team in the league on current performances but the worst disciplinary record also. Gerrard will be delighted. If Ross doesn't go now he never will.

My worry is if Jack Ross has had a big influence with Ron Gordon to the point where Graeme Mathie is the fall guy and Steve Kean gets recruited. Concerned that we've torn apart what Leeann built and it's continually been portrayed as "necessary" because we need to do more commercial partnerships and get more money in the club. Ron Gordon mentioned what Farmer told him. He evidently didn't listen properly "just win" means on the football field, planning a new training centre, restructuring youth department and hiring a guy your football manager mentions seriously comes across as "jobs for the boys".

Lost all interest in Hibs now tbh, they've flipped back to talking a good game while delivering absolute garbage. We could've been thrashed tonight, Livi missed 3-4 really good chances. Disgusting.

[hhibs]

Alex Neill suddenly back in Scotland being a pundit 🤔 aye, okay then………….


Indeed !

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Down, down you bring me bring me down, messy stuff.

[Blaster]

That’s me done with him now tbh. Thats as poor a game as I’ve seen in years. Started well. Lost a goal. Then nothing. The shape change 2nd half was stupid and the changes actually made us worse. I’ve stuck up for him for a while but this is now alarming.

Agree. We were worse in the 2nd half chasing the game. No width on the left so all they had to do was stop the right hand side. Job done.

[Since452]

am i the only one that is more angry with our players tonight instead of jack ross ?

Jack Ross doesn't send the team out to get beat but I'm not angry at him or the players to be honest. I'm just a bit meh. Almost expected it. Just feel a bit indifferent about it all which worries me more.

[The 90+2]

Do you think Mathie did a good job last transfer window?

Nobody knows. Who knows what targets Jack asked him to try get and when?

Do you know he done a bad job and was down to him or just trust the club and Rons judgement? :confused:

[The Captain....]

The thought of that corrupt drunk (copyright Blackburn) Kean in charge when Ross inevitably goes makes me feel physically ill.

The club is an absolute shambles of bull****ting wasters atm.

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[DanTheMan]

Alex Neill suddenly back in Scotland being a pundit 🤔 aye, okay then………….


Yeah that's what I was thinking!

[Heisenberg]

Alex Neill suddenly back in Scotland being a pundit 🤔 aye, okay then………….

Thought the same. On the radio talking himself up for a top six job in Scotland and we’re on this run. Worked with our chief exec before too? Seems a stick on.

[Jim44]

This has to end now.

These red cards are highlighting the problem. Players are gone. JDH looked like he wanted to get an early bath as well.

Forrest ripping us apart...

Give JR the January window? Not a chance. Don't trust the club either tbf, they used Graeme Mathie as a fall guy as far as I'm concerned.

I agree with you about the state we are in but don’t start making a case for Mathie, who, I know for a fact was a disgrace ( I’ve been slated a while back for saying that but I stand by it ) at the summer window. Best keep him out of the equation.

[Magpie]

Alex Neil seems the obvious replacement. Is he any better than Ross though?

[LunasBoots]

Manager and players who look like they have downed tools. Abysmal performace.

[04Sauzee]

But you were adamant he’d turn it around

And I'm sure he is allowed to change his mind?

[Skol]

No doubt that Ross is under pressure now. Hibs will do nothing before the cup final. A win saves his job. A heavy defeat and he goes. A narrow defeat might buy him time and we see how it goes

[Heisenberg]

Alex Neil seems the obvious replacement. Is he any better than Ross though?

Not convinced he is to be honest.

[Scottie]

Alex Neill suddenly back in Scotland being a pundit 🤔 aye, okay then………….
I hope not. Get Lennon back in :duck:

[Since452]

Alex Neil is just another Jack Ross.

[NC1875]

Take Alex Neil over Ross personally. Did he work with Ben at Norwich ?

[silverhibee]

Nisbet is absolutely hopeless, a waster. Id sell him now tonight if i could.

Not just Nisbet though BH, a few players need to have a good word with themselves, not f***ing good enough from every player tonight.

[Stuart93]

Pretty much as bad as it gets tonight. Might be time to start looking for a new gaffer. Disgrace that we've ended up here again. Disgrace

A bit humble pie tonight for yourself tbh, you’ve had a go at many a poster for voicing their concerns over JR.

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

Hanlon booked second time on the 60th minute and not sent off until 89th? Standard of refereeing is a joke in this country.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Down, down you bring me bring me down, messy stuff.

I can't see Ross resurrecting this. 4 points from 27 in this pish poor league is pathetic stuff. Looks like the end is coming.

[we are hibs]

He should go but he wont be going anywhere soon i dont think.

All the talk will be about Ross but it shouldnt deflect from the fact some of those players were an embarrassment tonight. Unprofessional, indisciplined and a disgrace to the Jersey.

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[Libby Hibby]

Give him no cup final, get him out now

[hibee-boys]

I’ve gotten to the point of not caring now, I’ll look forward to a day out with my mates on the 19th but not sure if I’ll even bother rocking up to any games before the derby. Grown tired of this mediocre, passive, devoid of ideas football. I was happy to give Jack Ross time but that performance has questioned even my resolve.

[Unseen work]

I really don’t know what’s happened.

That’s second half was brutal. We never looked like scoring.

Battered by Livingston.

[Davy Mac]

Thought the same. On the radio talking himself up for a top six job in Scotland and we’re on this run. Worked with our chief exec before too? Seems a stick on.

Talk is the Chief Exec is no staying by all accounts.

Just what I've heard.....

[GlasgowHibs]

Just when you think things have hit rock bottom. FFS

[madhatter]

am i the only one that is more angry with our players tonight instead of jack ross ?

I'm angry with the lot. Couldn't care less if they all left tbh. Some really poor attitudes on show tonight. Lack of fight and mistakes through not trying. Club are at fault as much as JR for me. Hibs are becoming a comfortable club. Long contracts given to players while we are in complete freefall is mental.

Is someone telling Ron Gordon that this is just a blip or something? Manager hasn't got the most out of these players, hasn't put together a team that plays a recognisable style beyond counter-attack with Boyle or pass, pass, hoof and ultimately I think players have lost their way and on the evidence of tonight some are not working and fighting for the manager.

Might take a break from Hibs. Utter garbage.

[Coco Bryce]

Think he’s lost the entire support tonight. No way back for him.

Hibs official Twitter taking an absolute pounding just now. This anger can't go unnoticed by the club.

[Callum_62]

Alex Neil

Former Hamilton, Norwich & Preston manager

Quote Message: Hibs have a cup final coming up. If these players think they're saving themselves for that, they're kidding themselves on. If I was Jack Ross, I'd have five or six of them not playing.
Hibs have a cup final coming up. If these players think they're saving themselves for that, they're kidding themselves on. If I was Jack Ross, I'd have five or six of them not playing.

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[1875Sean]

Alex Neil is just another Jack Ross.

Don’t remember jack ross getting a team promoted to the English premiership

[Hibernian Verse]

On this showing by the team tonight, it wouldn’t make a difference would it.

In that case we should just forfeit the game then?

[Callum_62]

Talk is the Chief Exec is no staying by all accounts.

Just what I've heard.....Ben's leaving?

By who's accounts?

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[sean04]

Got to go tonight, 4 points from a possible 27. Losing and performances getting worse week by week. Alex Neil or Derek mcinnes available now

[flash]

We have several issues right now but the shambolic performance of our captain is right up there.
He was like a horse on roller skates all night culminating in the stunning piece of ineptitude that sealed his fate.
Porteous is the only leader out there and invariably tries to do too much himself when we are struggling.

[WhileTheChief..]

This has to end now.

These red cards are highlighting the problem. Players are gone. JDH looked like he wanted to get an early bath as well.

Forrest ripping us apart...

Give JR the January window? Not a chance. Don't trust the club either tbf, they used Graeme Mathie as a fall guy as far as I'm concerned.

Agreed.

Ben Kendall really needs to step up and deliver. Things on and off the pitch have been crap since he arrived.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Alex Neil

Former Hamilton, Norwich & Preston manager

Quote Message: Hibs have a cup final coming up. If these players think they're saving themselves for that, they're kidding themselves on. If I was Jack Ross, I'd have five or six of them not playing.
Hibs have a cup final coming up. If these players think they're saving themselves for that, they're kidding themselves on. If I was Jack Ross, I'd have five or six of them not playing.

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Alex two times :greengrin

[MWHIBBIES]

It will be a heavy defeat so why put a new manager through that?

Not if the new manager is any good. No reason at all we should be taking a heavy defeat from anyone in Scotland

[One Day Soon]

No doubt that Ross is under pressure now. Hibs will do nothing before the cup final. A win saves his job. A heavy defeat and he goes. A narrow defeat might buy him time and we see how it goes

Now at the stage where I think winning the cup or losing it 'heroically' would be an outcome equal to a silver lining with a massive cloud attached. I don't believe he can turn this around and if he ends up prolonging his stay through the next transfer window - perhaps even beyond the end of this season - I think we could end up paying a pretty high price in terms of season tickets, attendances, playing style and longer term damage.

[WhileTheChief..]

Talk is the Chief Exec is no staying by all accounts.

Just what I've heard.....

Just saw this.

Wouldn’t surprise me at all if RG realised he made a huge mistake here.

[A Hi-Bee]

He should go but he wont be going anywhere soon i dont think.

All the talk will be about Ross but it shouldnt deflect from the fact some of those players were an embarrassment tonight. Unprofessional, indisciplined and a disgrace to the Jersey.

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The players were shocking for sure, but the manager is in place to make sure that the players are no shocking, so as they say the buck stops with him.
His time is up, shame as nothing against the guy we have had worse.

[Smartie]

am i the only one that is more angry with our players tonight instead of jack ross ?

Nope.

Man for man - they can all do better.

Jack Ross makes many mistakes but I thought the players were disgraceful tonight.

Obviously the manager carries the can for that but FFS he has a right to expect more from them than that.

[Boyle89]

am i the only one that is more angry with our players tonight instead of jack ross ?

Yup that was down to them tonight. However they are shattered and thats on ross and the board for not rotating the squad and also not having players available to choose from. Those two red cards are again ridiculously stupid. Lose the game ok but now they have made Saturday impossible. I cant see a way ross can turn it around now that a rather vocal element of the support are against him. Sad times. Hopefully January means fresh faces to change up the squad and bring some life back to it.

[Callum_62]

Just saw this.

Wouldn’t surprise me at all if RG realised he made a huge mistake here.Why is it a mistake?

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[HUTCHYHIBBY]

But you were adamant he’d turn it around

Stealing cheap shots is a shocker, I rarely agree with the guy but, tonight is far from being MWHIBBIES fault.

[Coco Bryce]

Talk is the Chief Exec is no staying by all accounts.

Just what I've heard.....

Edit. Read that wrong thought it was Ron 😒

[Hibernian Verse]

Is it just me or did Hanlon get booked 3 times tonight?

[JammyDoidger]

Jack ross on the radio feeling sorry for himself, should be hammering the players aswell as himself, collectively an absolute disgrace. Nisbets miss at the end summed it up. Pathetic.

[Davy Mac]

Ben's leaving?

By who's accounts?

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From what I've heard its not working out....interference I'm hearing..

Also, like Mathie will not bring the family up full time.

Is it concrete, not 100% but that's the murmerings.

[Jones28]

Ross interviewing well, he sounds gutted.

[Leith Green]

To continue playing newell and doyle hayes in the middle of the park is baffling. You could argue about squad depth , and i get we have a thin squad , but literally anything different would be an improvement. What have you been watching these past few months Mr Ross? The writing has been on the wall for a while now , but this has got to be the end of the road. We are so slow , ponderous and at times pedestrian, if its not boyle then we literally have nothing

[silverhibee]

Ben's leaving?

By who's accounts?

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Rumour has been going about for the last month.

[Montford]

No doubt that Ross is under pressure now. Hibs will do nothing before the cup final. A win saves his job. A heavy defeat and he goes. A narrow defeat might buy him time and we see how it goes

The curse of a dysfunctional board.

[Hibernian Verse]

To continue playing newell and doyle hayes in the middle of the park is baffling. You could argue about squad depth , and i get we have a thin squad , but literally anything different would be an improvement. What have you been watching these past few months Mr Ross? The writing has been on the wall for a while now , but this has got to be the end of the road. We are so slow , ponderous and at times pedestrian, if its not boyle then we literally have nothing

When you say literally anything different…I just can’t see any other options right now?

[1875Sean]

Is it just me or did Hanlon get booked 3 times tonight?

Sure it was just the two, first one could have been a red but the second is never a yellow

[A Hi-Bee]

Bring in Neil Lennon, he would get some passion and fight back into our club, scare the crap out of smelic as well.

[Coco Bryce]

Ross interviewing well, he sounds gutted.

Nowhere near as gutted as us.

[Callum_62]

From what I've heard its not working out....interference I'm hearing..

Also, like Mathie will not bring the family up full time.

Is it concrete, not 100% but that's the murmerings.Interference how?

I don't think moving family up is an issue, lots of folk work away from family and as we all know football is a mightily fickle business

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[Pagan Hibernia]

Talk is the Chief Exec is no staying by all accounts.

Just what I've heard.....

eh?

[Tambo]

Ross interviewing well, he sounds gutted.

I think he looked shocked when the camera went to him after the Jack Ross get to **** chant.

No way he would walk away from a pay off.

[S4uzee]

Stealing cheap shots is a shocker, I rarely agree with the guy but, tonight is far from being MWHIBBIES fault.

Of course it is nothing to do with him, what a ridiculous comment

[where'stheslope]

Not being funny, but reading on here, what manager in their right mind would want to take the job???
He would have to be a masochist, to put himself in here at the moment, cup final or not!
Its a great job for someone, but, he will need a total rethink of all team players and strategy!
Do we have the money to facilitate that kind of manager???

[Libby Hibby]

Bring in Neil Lennon, he would get some passion and fight back into our club, scare the crap out of smelic as well.

100%

[JohnM1875]

To continue playing newell and doyle hayes in the middle of the park is baffling. You could argue about squad depth , and i get we have a thin squad , but literally anything different would be an improvement. What have you been watching these past few months Mr Ross? The writing has been on the wall for a while now , but this has got to be the end of the road. We are so slow , ponderous and at times pedestrian, if its not boyle then we literally have nothing

We must have the slowest team in the league? Hanlon, Porto, Doyle-Hayes, Newell, Allan, Nisbet, Doidge all slow.

[MWHIBBIES]

A bit humble pie tonight for yourself tbh, you’ve had a go at many a poster for voicing their concerns over JR.

Not at all. I've been presented with new evidence and changed my opinion. An easy thing to do. It's those incapable of that who look daft.

I had a go at people for posting blatant lies or insulting me. Otherwise it was just different opinions.

[Iain G]

From what I've heard its not working out....interference I'm hearing..

Also, like Mathie will not bring the family up full time.

Is it concrete, not 100% but that's the murmerings.

Interference from who? Ron?

[blackpoolhibs]

Not just Nisbet though BH, a few players need to have a good word with themselves, not f***ing good enough from every player tonight.

Yip a few of them need to have a good look at themselves. :agree:, but Nisbet is a waster, has he ever sprinted for a ball, and dont get me on him trying ta nutmeg every time he receives the ball. :rolleyes:

[Jones28]

Nowhere near as gutted as us.

He said it himself, just cos he’s not screaming and bawling on the internet doesn’t mean he’s not hurt.

[Pilrig_Sauzee]

I was a fan of Ross and thought despite some uninspiring games he would gradually turn us into a top 3 side. Was happy to agree to dsagree with those who’ve been saying he wasn’t our man for a while, but reckon I was wrong. Our season starts now, we should do it with someone new.

[Heisenberg]

From what I've heard its not working out....interference I'm hearing..

Also, like Mathie will not bring the family up full time.

Is it concrete, not 100% but that's the murmerings.

I’d heard from someone at the club that they have been very impressed with his work and how he operates. Be surprised if he goes anytime soon.

[WhileTheChief..]

Ross interviewing well, he sounds gutted.

He comes across well but he doesn’t have the answers.

When a manager under pressure resorts to “we have to start winning games’ you kinda know that they don’t know how to fix things.

He’s never once admitted that things are wrong. He still thinks that generally things are ok and that results will turn.

[madhatter]

Nope.

Man for man - they can all do better.

Jack Ross makes many mistakes but I thought the players were disgraceful tonight.

Obviously the manager carries the can for that but FFS he has a right to expect more from them than that.

Problem with that last bit is Jack Ross almost never criticises the players. Certainly not with any force. He's protected them far too much.

Difficult to change the flow of things when you keep doing and saying the same things. I actually quite like Jack Ross but you could honestly record and replay his interviews for pretty much this entire terrible run. Mood is decent, I see a determination in the group, etc. Hibs are a comfortable club for players, a retirement home, a club for the injured and a club that dishes out 3-5 year contracts after a Covid lockdown and while club are in freefall.

[Pretty Boy]

If the AST holders and the type of fans who go to Livingston on a freezing Wednesday night are telling the manager to GTF then it’s a pretty ominous sign. Not many entitled glory hunters and fair weather fans there tonight.

I think we are approaching enough is enough territory. Ross has had a lot to deal with this year, no one can deny that. Equally though I don’t think it can be denied that he should be getting more from this team. 4 points in 27, 7 defeats in 9, 1 win in 9, however you want to spell it out it’s garbage.

The baffling subs, the collapse after conceding and the total loss of discipline tonight bothers me far more than the result. It’s in everyone’s best interest that Ross turns this round rather than the cost and upheaval of another new manager coming in. This is freefall though, it’s gone beyond a bad run or a bit of bad luck. He’ll get the final but if this downward trajectory continues then the club have to act, however reluctant they are and however much I’d prefer they didn’t have to.

[MWHIBBIES]

Stealing cheap shots is a shocker, I rarely agree with the guy but, tonight is far from being MWHIBBIES fault.

Not at all, it's flattering. Wonder if folk think about me during games too

[Davy Mac]

[QUOTE=Callum_62;6773915]Interference how?

I don't think moving family up is an issue, lots of folk work away from family and as we all know football is a mightily fickle business

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Hey fella, I told you its not 100% but I thought it would be helpful to let our posters know what I've heard.

Ron's son.......perhaps.

[Dalkeith Boy]

We've got a defence that does not know how to defend (I'll give McGinn the only pass)
We have a midfield that only pass the ball across and back and do not have a creative thought in their mind never mind in their boots.
We have Nisbet who is a disaster....God knows how he is getting rave reviews! When Boyle has an off day then we are lost.
Murphy, Doidge Allan passengers at present
We keep doing the same thing over and over expecting different results...definition of insanity
Jack Ross......has to be held accountable I think. Look at what other teams in the league outside of Celtic and Rangers are capable of achieving
We are 7th and dropping like a rock and we deserve to be where we are based on what we have produced on the field
What in heavens name do they do in preparation for each game? We just come out and do the same old boring stuff!!

[WhileTheChief..]

Bring in Neil Lennon, he would get some passion and fight back into our club, scare the crap out of smelic as well.

Would love that.

He’s in for the Ipswich job though.

[hibee-boys]

What did Jack Ross say?

[RG04]

Agreed.

Ben Kendall really needs to step up and deliver. Things on and off the pitch have been crap since he arrived.

Could not agree more!! From the atmosphere killing screens to the new pricing schemes!! Total waste of time added to the poor team on the park!

[Callum_62]

Neil Lennon?

Pass and I generally liked lennon

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[Callum_62]

Could not agree more!! From the atmosphere killing screens to the new pricing schemes!! Total waste of time added to the poor team on the park!TV screens killed the atmosphere?

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[Stuart93]

What did Jack Ross say?

Who cares

The same pish from him week in week out

[madhatter]

Not being funny, but reading on here, what manager in their right mind would want to take the job???
He would have to be a masochist, to put himself in here at the moment, cup final or not!
Its a great job for someone, but, he will need a total rethink of all team players and strategy!
Do we have the money to facilitate that kind of manager???

Many managers would take the job. Hibs will pay reasonably well for the level we operate at and it shouldn't be a really difficult job to have moderate success - decent cup run and top six should be quite simple to do. Our budget is quite a bit larger than Livi and we looked a right mess against them tonight.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Neil Lennon?

Pass and I generally liked lennon

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Agreed. Overall I enjoyed his time with us, but it all went to pieces at the end. Let's move on.

[Steven79]

Problem with that last bit is Jack Ross almost never criticises the players. Certainly not with any force. He's protected them far too much.

Difficult to change the flow of things when you keep doing and saying the same things. I actually quite like Jack Ross but you could honestly record and replay his interviews for pretty much this entire terrible run. Mood is decent, I see a determination in the group, etc. Hibs are a comfortable club for players, a retirement home, a club for the injured and a club that dishes out 3-5 year contracts after a Covid lockdown and while club are in freefall.Not all of that can be put down to the manager.

Whole club is in a mess at the minute as we feel rudderless.


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[Jones28]

Who cares

The same pish from him week in week out

It wasn’t

[cabbageandribs1875]

Jack Ross doesn't send the team out to get beat but I'm not angry at him or the players to be honest. I'm just a bit meh. Almost expected it. Just feel a bit indifferent about it all which worries me more.


i'm actually feeling sorry for the group of posters on here that have been putting their head above the parapet and showing dissent for quite a few months and getting it tight from the REAL experts on here that have the green-tinted specs on and don't like others having a different opinion, personally i was told by one of those experts that i was making things up when i said several weeks ago that we were in for very tough games against sides scrapping for points and i couldn't see where the next win was coming from....St Johnstone aside i've not been all that far away, but it IS funny watching said poster now agreeing with others, funny old game



anyway, jack ross sounds like he was shouldering the blame tonight, he shouldn't imo...those players were an utter disgrace to the jersey, a disgrace

[Libby Hibby]

TV screens killed the atmosphere?

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Video killed the radio star

[Davy Mac]

Many managers would take the job. Hibs will pay reasonably well for the level we operate at and it shouldn't be a really difficult job to have moderate success - decent cup run and top six should be quite simple to do. Our budget is quite a bit larger than Livi and we looked a right mess against them tonight.

Would you take McInnes? ;-)

[andudare2]

This is getting as bad as anything i can remember in 60 years of supporting Hibs,had a few poor managers well before the likes of Calderwood, Fenlon and Butcher,Jack Ross is becoming as bad as any of them imo,have like many others given him support but after tonight im done,wont be back at another game while this manager is in place. Really feel sad in saying this but after the health issues ive had i have decided to put my health first and all this team is doing for me is stressing me to the max,so all the best to those who will definitely soldier/suffer on in following Hibs.

[Leith Green]

We must have the slowest team in the league? Hanlon, Porto, Doyle-Hayes, Newell, Allan, Nisbet, Doidge all slow.

Not just slow physically either. We are horrible to watch when we are in possession, , we take an absolute age to move the ball forwards.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Of course it is nothing to do with him, what a ridiculous comment

What's the point of a cheap shot then?

[Squealing pig]

Time for Ian Holloway

[Callum_62]

This is getting as bad as anything i can remember in 60 years of supporting Hibs,had a few poor managers well before the likes of Calderwood, Fenlon and Butcher,Jack Ross is becoming as bad as any of them imo,have like many others given him support but after tonight im done,wont be back at another game while this manager is in place. Really feel sad in saying this but after the health issues ive had i have decided to put my health first and all this team is doing for me is stressing me to the max,so all the best to those who will definitely soldier/suffer on in following Hibs.Hope you have premier sports to see us lift the cup [emoji106]

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[cabbageandribs1875]

Could not agree more!! From the atmosphere killing screens to the new pricing schemes!! Total waste of time added to the poor team on the park!


:agree: just an excuse to hike the prices up even further

[Callum_62]

Time for Ian HollowayWhat a laugh it would be anyway!

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[loanheadhibby]

We have several issues right now but the shambolic performance of our captain is right up there.
He was like a horse on roller skates all night culminating in the stunning piece of ineptitude that sealed his fate.
Porteous is the only leader out there and invariably tries to do too much himself when we are struggling.
I'll get slaughtered but Hanlon was a disgrace tonight. He has been at Easter Road too long.

[Sir David Gray]

That was the livi fans…we were singing ‘Jack Ross, Jack Ross, GTF’

The Hibs fans sung both chants.

[CLASS OF 72 -73]

Would love that.

He’s in for the Ipswich job though.

I know he lost the plot at the end but I enjoyed his passion.

[The Captain....]

Will.managers be queuing up to come to us knowing they'll be working with Steve Kean. I wouldn't want to tbh.

That indisciplined shambles tonight should signal the end for so.many of that squad and the manager but the thought of Kean having a major say in our future makes me feel ill.

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[truehibernian]

I'll get slaughtered but Hanlon was a disgrace tonight. He has been at Easter Road too long.

Way too long. As has Lewy, as has Daz.

[madhatter]

Would you take McInnes? ;-)

No. I wouldn't. I would want a foreign coach/manager personally. Or a manager that has spent time coaching abroad. We keep recruiting slow, soft (in the combative sense) midfielders as if we are Barcelona but we persist with having no playing style and pretty much just look to battle against our peers in the league. If we are not going to go big and physical with our player recruitment then we need to get a coach who knows how to get a team passing and moving.

[Callum_62]

I still don't get why Kean is being slaughtered so much?

He was spot on about Allerdyce

What else have i missed?

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[WeeRussell]

Who cares

The same pish from him week in week out

It’s things like this that make me want to reply in support of MWHIBBIES tonight after you couldn’t wait to pile in and go on about “humble pie” when everyone’s p155ed off at tonight’s performance and result.

Ever thought that some of us don’t actually object to people not enjoying a manager’s football or suggesting he’s not good enough, but rather the mindless repetitive pish posts like this one attacking someone who is trying his best for our club.

I’m not convinced he’s the man to take us forward now, but I’ll still show a bit of respect and object to the same crap “week in and week out” like this.

[cabbageandribs1875]

tell you one thing martindale came across very well in his interview, he's given our manager a lot of credit

[Stuart93]

The way I’m feeling after that i canny even be arsed gon to the final

[Sir David Gray]

Just back, that was utterly disgraceful tonight and my patience has now worn out.

Jack Ross has to go now, enough is enough. Our form is relegation stuff if we're not careful. This has many of the hallmarks of 2014.

[gaz1875]

I'll get slaughtered but Hanlon was a disgrace tonight. He has been at Easter Road too long.

We should have been looking to replace him years ago. Average player who has no competition for his place in the team.

[greenpaper55]

He should have been sacked after the cup final, it was an unmitigated disaster from start to finish against a team with a quarter of the resources we have and i'm being generous there. It was obvious that he had no plan B other than lump it up the field in desperation. Again i mention the fact that he brought on Allan in the hope that he could turn things round , the same man he tried to get rid of a few months ago as not good enough so where is the joined up thinking there ? it is plainly obvious he has not got a clue at this level, maybe a good manager at the likes of Alloa but he should be nowhere near ER and soon.

[The 90+2]

Alex Neil seems the obvious replacement. Is he any better than Ross though?


Yes.

Took Hamilton from struggling league below to winning the Championship as player manager part time beating us in the final. Spent the next six months playing great football with Hamilton, winning in Glasgow, leaving them for third.

Took Norwich up to the EPL.

He would 100% be my choice for new manager. He wouldn't take ***** either.

[One Day Soon]

Not just slow physically either. We are horrible to watch when we are in possession, , we take an absolute age to move the ball forwards.

This a really good observation. We haven't looked like a 'smart' quick-thinking football side for an age.

And **** me, that derby is not a happy prospect.

[Cod Boy]

The playing of Scott Allan left midfield tells me he hasent got a clue a waste of a change playing him in that position.

[Stuart93]

It’s things like this that make me want to reply in support of MWHIBBIES tonight after you couldn’t wait to pile in and go on about “humble pie” when everyone’s p155ed off at tonight’s performance and result.

Ever thought that some of us don’t actually object to people not enjoying a manager’s football or suggesting he’s not good enough, but rather the mindless repetitive pish posts like this one attacking someone who is trying his best for our club.

I’m not convinced he’s the man to take us forward now, but I’ll still show a bit of respect and object to the same crap “week in and week out” like this.

He does say the same ***** week in week out though. He’s said the same things for the last 9 games. Been made aware he potentially hasn’t tonight though

I’m not really arsed what you think to be honest or whether or not I should still show “respect to him”. If trying his best for the club is 1 win in 9 I’d hate to see him not trying

[Callum_62]

He should have been sacked after the cup final, it was an unmitigated disaster from start to finish against a team with a quarter of the resources we have and i'm being generous there. It was obvious that he had no plan B other than lump it up the field in desperation. Again i mention the fact that he brought on Allan in the hope that he could turn things round , the same man he tried to get rid of a few months ago as not good enough so where is the joined up thinking there ? it is plainly obvious he has not got a clue at this level, maybe a good manager at the likes of Alloa but he should be nowhere near ER and soon.The Allan thing is a red herring
Happens in football all the time

I'm sure Jack Ross would have rather had Jamie Mcgrath to play (as would I) but that doenst mean we expect Scott Allan to not be professional about it (I'm sure he is being professional btw)

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[CLASS OF 72 -73]

I'll get slaughtered but Hanlon was a disgrace tonight. He has been at Easter Road too long.

MOTM v huns now he's been here too long:confused:

[BSEJVT]

Bad night for both Hibs and Hibs Net

Folk are entitled to have different opinions and in football if you wait long enough that opinion will prove to be both wrong and right.

It’s typical of this place now that folk can’t wait to indulge in finger pointing as a form of self vindication.

Maybe the answer is to split Hibs Net into 2 distinct entities

One entity where everything is great and another where everything is ****

Rather than actually debating anything posters can log onto whatever entity suits their mood of the day and either praise or criticise to their hearts content.

Maybe on the evidence of a change in circumstances they can flit back and forth between the two?

Almost like a change their mind type thing but without the unpleasantness that goes along with doing so!

Just a thought

[Heisenberg]

I still don't get why Kean is being slaughtered so much?

He was spot on about Allerdyce

What else have i missed?

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Think it’s mainly because he’s a ***** manager and has the reputation of being a snake, even if he was right about Allardyce.

[cabbageandribs1875]

by jings do i regret texting jack ross to put wee scotty on for the entire 2nd half :whistle:

[Bobby's Cinema]

Real poor poor attitude and performances all over the park.

Overall lack of cohesion right throughout the team. I can no longer see what the team is trying to do when we take to the park. We have no style/ pattern of play that defines us. You can't just lump on 3 - 4 forward players and have no idea how to get the ball to them.

What about playing to your strengths and getting the best out of your best players. Boyle - every single thing with him at the moment is in to feet and too many touches, turning back the way you're facing. How about slipping him in behind? Doidge - I can't recall a single cross finding the big man or any decent balls up to link the play. Doig did not get forward effectively at all, football is a simple game with his pace he should have been linking up and doing this far better.

And defensively, I can think of 3/4 occasions where a ball coming out the air unchallenged was headed clean out the park when it was there to be brought down under control. Hanlon first half and Daz first touch. I keep hearing we are not a team struggling for confidence but that says otherwise. McGinn was beaten when in good position a few times down the goal line etc not including the pathetic red. Both reds were just lazy, lack of concentration, well beaten.

[WeeRussell]

He does say the same ***** week in week out though. He’s said the same things for the last 9 games. Been made aware he potentially hasn’t tonight though

I’m not really arsed what you think to be honest. If trying his best for the club is 1 win in 9 I’d hate to see him not trying

I don’t expect you to be arsed what I think (otherwise you wouldn’t bother irritating so many of us with your constant negative digs at the club and other posters) but I thought I’d share my frustrations like everyone else tonight.

[Real Emerald]

When you say literally anything different…I just can’t see any other options right now?

That’s the problem, our squad is poor and we have no options due to poor recruitment and injuries. I’m not sticking up for JR but he had nothing else to work with. Folk screaming for Scott Allan tonight and the return of Doidge but the changes crippled us and made it worse. The damage was done in the summer and I’ve no idea who is to blame for that.

[Silky]

Many managers would take the job. Hibs will pay reasonably well for the level we operate at and it shouldn't be a really difficult job to have moderate success - decent cup run and top six should be quite simple to do. Our budget is quite a bit larger than Livi and we looked a right mess against them tonight.

That's not what we want though. Nearly every thread on here has some post on it saying we should be third at least. We've had decent cup runs-no real success since 2016. For many, its the style as well. We achieved that objective last season-many people bemoaned the style, though. There have been many comments on here criticising the lack of entertainment. If we win a few more games this season and end up 5th or 6th, then Ross has achieved what you say. In that case, what point in change?

[Leith Green]

And to think that theres a thread on here asking why supporters aren’t going to the games. The answer was right there in front of us tonight

[Helensburghhibs]

Yes.

Took Hamilton from struggling league below to winning the Championship as player manager part time beating us in the final. Spent the next six months playing great football with Hamilton, winning in Glasgow, leaving them for third.

Took Norwich up to the EPL.

He would 100% be my choice for new manager. He wouldn't take ***** either.

Interesting listening to him on sportsound,, gave his ideas on what he would do to this squad and it sounded very much like it would involve a rocket

[hibeesjoe]

Nisbet is absolutely hopeless, a waster. Id sell him now tonight if i could.He set the tone by putting in a transfer request 6months after joining the club. Can't see any club paying the £3million or whatever was mentioned in the summer.

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[Stuart93]

I don’t expect you to be arsed what I think (otherwise you wouldn’t bother irritating so many of us with your constant negative digs at the club and other posters) but I thought I’d share my frustrations like everyone else tonight tonight.

And I’ll continue to irritate yourself and other posters with my “negative digs”. They’re my opinions whether you agree with them or not.

I’ll give the team credit when their due it like after the semi final or the turnaround against st J but in turn I’ll have a pop at them and the club when I feel we should be doing better.

[Hibs90]

It’s things like this that make me want to reply in support of MWHIBBIES tonight after you couldn’t wait to pile in and go on about “humble pie” when everyone’s p155ed off at tonight’s performance and result.

Ever thought that some of us don’t actually object to people not enjoying a manager’s football or suggesting he’s not good enough, but rather the mindless repetitive pish posts like this one attacking someone who is trying his best for our club.

I’m not convinced he’s the man to take us forward now, but I’ll still show a bit of respect and object to the same crap “week in and week out” like this.

Was there not a thread on the PM board slaughtering those who said Ross wasn’t the man?

[hibbyfraelibby]

He needs to be sacked tonight. Unacceptable and a complete lack of discipline

We’re left with Stevenson and McGregor for the next game

Seem to remember that worked once before...at Ibrox

[Stuart93]

Was there not a thread on the PM board slaughtering those who said Ross wasn’t the man?

Yep that’s the way it works though. Pretty sure I remember posters noising up others after we beat rangers in the semi. Now the shoes on the other foot some don’t like it.

[Pretty Boy]

Think it’s mainly because he’s a ***** manager and has the reputation of being a snake, even if he was right about Allardyce.

I think part of the issue at Blackburn was after accusing Allardyce of being a crook and manoeuvring him out of a job him and the agency who represent him were alleged to be every bit as dodgy. There were players being signed, nominally by Kean, and the fee going to agents was bigger than transfer fees being paid. Incidentally every manager Blackburn have had since has been represented by companies linked to the same head honcho.

I think Kean was a bit of a fall guy rather than the brains behind the operation. The fact he was a honking manager probably cemented him as the hate figure in the minds of the fans.

[gaz1875]

Interesting listening to him on sportsound,, gave his ideas on what he would do to this squad and it sounded very much like it would involve a rocket

Him and Rankin were both good. They at least said what Ross should be doing or at least trying and he done neither.

[silverhibee]

Would you take McInnes? ;-)

No for me, let’s go down the Celtc route, Ange has been superb for them, he has stuck with his game plan and it’s working for them, we can’t keep bringing in managers who get papped from clubs every few years, we need to be adventurous in looking for a new manager, I have mentioned him a few times but someone like Sean Maloney withRoy Keane would do me.

[Callum_62]

Think it’s mainly because he’s a ***** manager and has the reputation of being a snake, even if he was right about Allardyce.He's not our manager and is it a snake for calling someone something they actually are?

Seems way OTT unkess I'm missing something

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[EVENTUALLY]

The playing of Scott Allan left midfield tells me he hasent got a clue a waste of a change playing him in that position.

Correct. He seems hell bent on not playing Scott Allan if he can get away with it or when he does he isolates him out on the left wing. Jeez.

If JR is still here on Sat I'll guarantee the 1st 2 names on the team sheet will be Sideways Newall and Backwards Doyle Hayes. So slow and boring but utterly perfect for the opposition to get into shape and stifle Hibs.

Hit the road Jack.

[WeeRussell]

Was there not a thread on the PM board slaughtering those who said Ross wasn’t the man?

I’ve no idea dazzling Doidge. I’m not a PM.

I was only remarking on my recollection of MWHIBBIES posts regarding Jack Ross and Stuart’s haste to have a go at him for it.

I’m quite sure there’s been plenty incorrect and ott comments from both sides of the argument on jack ross by many posters. One poster now deciding that JR’s time could be up doesn’t change that or make them wrong.

[madhatter]

Bad night for both Hibs and Hibs Net

Folk are entitled to have different opinions and in football if you wait long enough that opinion will prove to be both wrong and right.

It’s typical of this place now that folk can’t wait to indulge in finger pointing as a form of self vindication.

Maybe the answer is to split Hibs Net into 2 distinct entities

One entity where everything is great and another where everything is ****

Rather than actually debating anything posters can log onto whatever entity suits their mood of the day and either praise or criticise to their hearts content.

Maybe on the evidence of a change in circumstances they can flit back and forth between the two?

Almost like a change their mind type thing but without the unpleasantness that goes along with doing so!

Just a thought

Think it has actually been not too bad tonight in a sad sense. Collectively misery unfortunately. No finger pointing necessary though, I agree with that.

I would add that there has been plenty unsavoury things said about negative posters for weeks and weeks on here. Some took people being concerned about the club direction, Steve Kean appointment etc. as some kind of attack on Hibs and it was their duty to protect the club by throwing personal digs at those people. Sad as it is, this is what tends to happen when anger and keyboards are involved. Think over the piece things are not bad on here tonight, again in a sad sense due to what we witnessed tonight. Other platforms are usually far far worse, some will be an absolute disaster tonight especially.

[cabbageandribs1875]

And I’ll continue to irritate yourself and other posters with my “negative digs”. They’re my opinions whether you agree with them or not.

I’ll give the team credit when their due it like after the semi final or the turnaround against st J but in turn I’ll have a pop at them and the club when I feel we should be doing better.


quite bizarre it's posters like yourself that are getting it tight, instead of the ones that were giving it tight to posters like yourself


the posters that have been dissenting for several months could be right, but hell mend them for pointing that out


just a shame the ones that were giving those dissenters grief don't have the decency to admit they could be wrong after all

[BSEJVT]

I still don't get why Kean is being slaughtered so much?

He was spot on about Allerdyce

What else have i missed?

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I don’t think I have ever heard of anyone in football being quite so vilified as Kean, and like you I haven’t a clue why other than the Allerdyce stuff and the fact that Blackburn imploded under his tenure and he was hated by their fans as a resuly by there were mitigating circumstances like selling off virtually anyone who was any use.

Is there something out there that can’t be spoken off in polite company?

Genuinely confused

[Brightside]

Bring in Neil Lennon, he would get some passion and fight back into our club, scare the crap out of smelic as well.

I wouldn’t be going back if we brought Lennon in.

[Hibs90]

I’ve no idea dazzling Doidge. I’m not a PM.

I was only remarking on my recollection of MWHIBBIES posts regarding Jack Ross and Stuart’s haste to have a go at him for it.

I’m quite sure there’s been plenty incorrect and ott comments from both sides of the argument on jack ross by many posters. One poster now deciding that JR’s time could be up doesn’t change that or make them wrong.

Works both ways though, plenty on here sticking the boot into the naysayers after the semi final, where by large most of the folk were full of praise for the team and manager.

[1875Sean]

No for me, let’s go down the Celtc route, Ange has been superb for them, he has stuck with his game plan and it’s working for them, we can’t keep bringing in managers who get papped from clubs every few years, we need to be adventurous in looking for a new manager, I have mentioned him a few times but someone like Sean Maloney withRoy Keane would do me.

You think Roy Keane would come to Hibs as a number 2?

[sean04]

Stop this Lennon nonsense, remember how bad we were when he left and the mess he caused at celtic

[GreenCastle]

We have a thin squad and now we have more suspensions plus a possible injury to Porto.

Playing the same players in all these games was always going to mean injuries. We will get another this weekend if we don't make changes.

But it's obvious the bench can't be trusted - or they are used in desperation to get Ross out a hole - Scott Allan on repeat!!

[silverhibee]

Way too long. As has Lewy, as has Daz.

Yip, great servants to the club, Lewy and Hanlon more so but time is up for the 3 of them, giving them contracts was just plain crazy.

[WeeRussell]

Works both ways though, plenty on here sticking the boot into the naysayers after the semi final, where by large most of the folk were full of praise for the team and manager.

Absolutely does, I agree.

[Stuart93]

quite bizarre it's posters like yourself that are getting it tight, instead of the ones that were giving it tight to posters like yourself


the posters that have been dissenting for several months could be right, but hell mend them for pointing that out


just a shame the ones that were giving those dissenters grief don't have the decency to admit they could be wrong after all

Is what it is, we’re all after the same thing here and that’s to see hibs doing well.

Fwiw I’ll feel a bit sorry for JR if he does get the sack as the players have let him down badly BUT as usual, the buck stops at the feet of the manager

[Hibs90]

Stop this Lennon nonsense, remember how bad we were when he left and the mess he caused at celtic

And this also. Get the Lennon chat in the bin.

[Since452]

Stop this Lennon nonsense, remember how bad we were when he left and the mess he caused at celtic

Lennon is a car crash. Crazy talk mentioning him coming back.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Works both ways though, plenty on here sticking the boot into the naysayers after the semi final, where by large most of the folk were full of praise for the team and manager.


exactly

[NC1875]

I'll get slaughtered but Hanlon was a disgrace tonight. He has been at Easter Road too long.

Yup, I’ve said it for ages and been slaughtered for it too.

Not good enough, along with Stevenson, McGregor and gray but get silly new contracts and fans who agree with it based on sentiment.

Hanlon as captain is an absolute ****ing joke

[NAE NOOKIE]

Ross has lost the team and has no idea how to change it, even if the players aren't saying it the results, the lack of invention and the lack of discipline says it all ... we are in free fall and we need to address it ASAP. Yes, we have actually played ok in some games, but results are the be all and end all and we just cant seem to win games we could and should be winning .... that is the end for any manager.

When it comes to new managers ... Lennon? ... Absolutely fin'g well not and I don't care how big his fan club is on here, we were a disaster on his final few months and his shortcomings as a manager were laid bare in that period.

Alex Neil ... Absolutely ..... the guy turned Hamilton ( Hamilton FFS !!! ) into a team far better than they could ever have hoped to be, took Norwich into the EPL, who then sacked him, but have since shown it is their unwillingness / inability to support their manager in that EPL with a decent budget that is the problem. He then turned a club mired in mediocrity IE Preston North End into a half decent outfit who he took closer to the EPL than they could ever have dreamed ..... Why the hell wouldn't we want this guy.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Is what it is, we’re all after the same thing here and that’s to see hibs doing well.

Fwiw I’ll feel a bit sorry for JR if he does get the sack as the players have let him down badly BUT as usual, the buck stops at the feet of the manager


:agree:

[easty]

You think Roy Keane would come to Hibs as a number 2?

He wouldn't come as a number 1!

[truehibernian]

No for me, let’s go down the Celtc route, Ange has been superb for them, he has stuck with his game plan and it’s working for them, we can’t keep bringing in managers who get papped from clubs every few years, we need to be adventurous in looking for a new manager, I have mentioned him a few times but someone like Sean Maloney withRoy Keane would do me.

Shaun Maloney would be a great shout SH. Terrific career and now experienced coach and international No 2. I think he’d need a wise head next to him who has good knowledge of the wider markets.

[Helensburghhibs]

I wouldn’t be going back if we brought Lennon in.

Or me,, people forget how brutal we were in the end u der him,, and when results turned he started losing the plot

[jeffers]

I’ve no idea dazzling Doidge. I’m not a PM.

I was only remarking on my recollection of MWHIBBIES posts regarding Jack Ross and Stuart’s haste to have a go at him for it.

I’m quite sure there’s been plenty incorrect and ott comments from both sides of the argument on jack ross by many posters. One poster now deciding that JR’s time could be up doesn’t change that or make them wrong.

I’m sure MWHIBBIES will defend himself, but maybe he’s getting it tight because he comes across as if he’s the expert and those of us who don’t agree with him don’t know what we are talking about. Only yesterday he was telling everyone we’d improved and Ross was definitely going to turn things round. Now according to him it’s time for a new manager……

It’s not always about having a different opinion, it’s often about how you put that opinion across.

[Ronniekirk]

Talk is the Chief Exec is no staying by all accounts.

Just what I've heard.....

Club in crisis headline if true


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[cabbageandribs1875]

Attendance:2,363

[truehibernian]

Attendance:2,363

That’ll be Easter Road when we play St Mirren 😫😂

[Steven79]

That’ll be Easter Road when we play St Mirren [emoji31][emoji23]The game is in Paisley.

I was originally going to this game but glad I decided to give it a miss.

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[where'stheslope]

Attendance:2,363
I think this speaks volumes about fans, we want to sell out Easter Road, but if performances are poor were as poorly supported as other teams!
Get a team winning on the park and fans want to see it.
Lose and they just disappear in the night!!!!

[silverhibee]

You think Roy Keane would come to Hibs as a number 2?

I don’t no, but Ron could ask.

[Chorley Hibee]

Way too long. As has Lewy, as has Daz.

Yep, but we keep on dishing out the contracts.

[NC1875]

Yep, but we keep on dishing out the contracts.

And people keep telling us we’re lucky to have them.

Laughable, and part of the reason we are in this mess

[Coco Bryce]

Attendance:2,363

Does that also include their ST holders that never turned up? 😂😂

[silverhibee]

He wouldn't come as a number 1!

He wants back in to football, he will have to start somewhere, why not Hibs.

[madhatter]

That's not what we want though. Nearly every thread on here has some post on it saying we should be third at least. We've had decent cup runs-no real success since 2016. For many, its the style as well. We achieved that objective last season-many people bemoaned the style, though. There have been many comments on here criticising the lack of entertainment. If we win a few more games this season and end up 5th or 6th, then Ross has achieved what you say. In that case, what point in change?

I never argued that top six and a decent cup run is all we want. I was arguing for why a manager would happily come to Hibs - decent salary and the absolute minimum to stay in the job should be relatively easy to achieve based on spending power (4-5 teams with much lower spending power).

Style can ultimately lead to success though. Maybe style is the wrong word. Philosophy is possibly better.

At a total different level but Klopp, Pep, Ranieri, Tuchel, Rodgers, Potter...their teams play in a certain way and they recruit players to suit that way (or players they can train to play that way). Closer to home - Ange at Celtic has a style he wants to play. They do not recruit players based on having a decent squad on paper. Most of the teams have a recognisable way of playing, some have a high press and aggressive nature (normally due to their clout within the league) and some have a lower block and counter attack with pace in their team. The fact we are currently a counter-attack team that relies on a game opening up so we can get Boyle running with yards of space is absolutely ludicrous in our league. We should be able to form something better than that. I complained about the style last season as I had concerns over when other teams improved, there were clear signs - the losses in the cups and the ridiculous thrashings we got from Livi and Ross County if memory serves me. This team has not been built to attack and nothing about JR's transfer windows has suggested we will recruit flair players to open up teams and create space.

If you cannot see a point in changing manager based on the run we are currently on and the football on display recently then I don't think there is much debate to be had. It goes beyond manager in fairness to JR, Hibs are in a bad place but are trying to convince us that things will turn some time in the future, power of positive vibes stuff rather than substance.

[silverhibee]

Shaun Maloney would be a great shout SH. Terrific career and now experienced coach and international No 2. I think he’d need a wise head next to him who has good knowledge of the wider markets.

Only here good things about Maloney, would be adventurous shout but we have to try something different.

[WeeRussell]

I’m sure MWHIBBIES will defend himself, but maybe he’s getting it tight because he comes across as if he’s the expert and those of us who don’t agree with him don’t know what we are talking about. Only yesterday he was telling everyone we’d improved and Ross was definitely going to turn things round. Now according to him it’s time for a new manager……

It’s not always about having a different opinion, it’s often about how you put that opinion across.

I get that Jeffers - I’m often at odds with MWHIBBIES posts on here myself. I just genuinely don’t recollect his posts being that bad/defensive of Jack Ross and more objecting to some of the unnecessary comments thrown at the manager, similar to how I’d like to think I’ve been. But also I don’t read .net every day and clearly miss a lot of exchanges on a much talked about topic just now so happy to concede I may have assessed that wrong.

I don’t mind admitting I struggle to see how Jack Ross turns it round from here (perhaps with the exception of winning the cup!) having thought he would a couple of weeks ago, but I still find the assaults on his interviews etc poor.

As Stuart alluded to, emotions are high and we all want the same thing.

Best to refrain from posting when I’m this mood I’ll admit. And sorry to Stuart for jumping in and commenting in said mood. Wasn’t needed.

[B.H.F.C]

Yep, but we keep on dishing out the contracts.

Talking about this leaving the game tonight. JDH being extended until 2025 based on nothing. Josh Campbell the same based on not very much. We’ll continue going round in circles with the same average players in defence as well.

[Stuart93]

I get that Jeffers - I’m often at odds with MWHIBBIES posts on here myself. I just genuinely don’t recollect his posts being that bad/defensive of Jack Ross and more objecting to some of the unnecessary comments thrown at the manager, similar to how I’d like to think I’ve been. But also I don’t read .net every day and clearly miss a lot of exchanges on a much talked about topic just now so happy to concede I may have assessed that wrong.

I don’t mind admitting I struggle to see how Jack Ross turns it round from here (perhaps with the exception of winning the cup!) having thought he would a couple of weeks ago, but I still find the assaults on his interviews etc poor.

As Stuart alluded to, emotions are high and we all want the same thing.

Best to refrain from posting when I’m this mood I’ll admit.

I also post too often when I’m pissed off after a game and probably say things that, on reflection, I potentially shouldn’t have

There’s no harm done though. We’re all feeling the same way tonight

[Callum_62]

Talking about this leaving the game tonight. JDH being extended until 2025 based on nothing. Josh Campbell the same based on not very much. We’ll continue going round in circles with the same average players in defence as well.I'm guessing it's based on seeing them day in day out and making a judgement on there growth potential

JDH was probably out top performer pre covid too

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[SteveHFC]

Yup, I’ve said it for ages and been slaughtered for it too.

Not good enough, along with Stevenson, McGregor and gray but get silly new contracts and fans who agree with it based on sentiment.

Hanlon as captain is an absolute ****ing joke

Hanlon should be dropped from his role as captain but there's no leadership in that team at all for anyoen to takeover as captain.

[MWHIBBIES]

I’m sure MWHIBBIES will defend himself, but maybe he’s getting it tight because he comes across as if he’s the expert and those of us who don’t agree with him don’t know what we are talking about. Only yesterday he was telling everyone we’d improved and Ross was definitely going to turn things round. Now according to him it’s time for a new manager……

It’s not always about having a different opinion, it’s often about how you put that opinion across.

And now presented with new evidence I've changed my opinion slightly. I've always found that a good quality in a person. Not on Hibs.net apparently...

I only ever get into daft arguments with people when they post rubbish or are rude to me. 90% of my conversations on here are absolutely fine.

[WeeRussell]

I also post too often when I’m pissed off after a game and probably say things that, on reflection, I potentially shouldn’t have

There’s no harm done though. We’re all feeling the same way tonight

At least we can’t be accused of being jambos when getting each other so wound up after a game away to f****** Livingston! 😞

[Since452]

Yes.

Took Hamilton from struggling league below to winning the Championship as player manager part time beating us in the final. Spent the next six months playing great football with Hamilton, winning in Glasgow, leaving them for third.

Took Norwich up to the EPL.

He would 100% be my choice for new manager. He wouldn't take ***** either.

Not too dissimilar to Jack Ross.

[GreenCastle]

Shaun Maloney would be a great shout SH. Terrific career and now experienced coach and international No 2. I think he’d need a wise head next to him who has good knowledge of the wider markets.

Maloney isn't coming to Hibs to work in a relegation / trying to get us into top 6.

He's got a World Cup to prepare for and is working with some of the best players in the world.

[jeffers]

I get that Jeffers - I’m often at odds with MWHIBBIES posts on here myself. I just genuinely don’t recollect his posts being that bad/defensive of Jack Ross and more objecting to some of the unnecessary comments thrown at the manager, similar to how I’d like to think I’ve been. But also I don’t read .net every day and clearly miss a lot of exchanges on a much talked about topic just now so happy to concede I may have assessed that wrong.

I don’t mind admitting I struggle to see how Jack Ross turns it round from here (perhaps with the exception of winning the cup!) having thought he would a couple of weeks ago, but I still find the assaults on his interviews etc poor.

As Stuart alluded to, emotions are high and we all want the same thing.

Best to refrain from posting when I’m this mood I’ll admit. And sorry to Stuart for jumping in and commenting in said mood. Wasn’t needed.

Tbf WR like it said it’s not always the content, more how it’s put across. Maybe that’s just me though.

I’ve argued with my mates about Ross since the St J semi and always felt he’d leave because the fans had turned rather than him being headhunted. To me he’s a decent manager, no more than that. I take no pleasure in appearing to be right about that. I don’t want the upheaval of bringing in someone new, but maybe it’s better to do so now than allow him to bring in the players he wants in January, players another manager might not necessarily want.

[NC1875]

Not too dissimilar to Jack Ross.

Jack Ross couldn’t get Sunderland out of League One with a massive budget. Never mind a promotion to the premier league.

Alex Neil would do for me.

[The 90+2]

Not too dissimilar to Jack Ross.

Apart from gaining promotion to the biggest league in the world after leading part time hamilton to third in the Premiership from the league below? :confused:

Ross failed to get the biggest club by miles in L1 up. And I like Jack. :aok:

I would also ask Paul Lambert if he would like a fresh start up here.

[The 90+2]

Maloney isn't coming to Hibs to work in a relegation / trying to get us into top 6.

He's got a World Cup to prepare for and is working with some of the best players in the world.

That would only be for six months if it was to happen at all.

Saying that if Kennedy turned us down then I can't see Maloney saying aye.

[wookie70]

The whole playing side should be embarrassed by that performance. A complete lack of effort and application after Livi scored. I'm a bit meh about Ross and I think he does have a difficult job to do. The squad was far too small particularly up front. He has ended up not having a 9 and not having a replacement and then forcing a 10 to play 9 who simply can't do it. Our game changers barring Boyle only have one side to their game and we have our only two dimensional midfielder injured for the poor run of form. I had no thoughts about him leaving or being sacked until he bowed to the crowd and brought Allan and Doidge on at halftime. As soon as he did I felt the game was lost and I certainly lost some respect for Ross as I thought those subs were for the crowd rather than the club.

Doidge is so far off being ready it is hard to watch and when Campbell went off the little urgency we had completely disappeared. Allan actually did his best work in defence tonight but we gave up the fight with the subs and it was all very predictable that Livi took control of the game and we stood like statues when in possession with players passing the buck rather than the ball.

So many players have deserved to be dropped but the squad is so poor the replacements wouldn't be much better. I'd stick Campbell in for JDH or Newell just to give us a bit of urgency in the middle and play Gullan with Nisbet. The first thing I would do though is get Stevenson back in the team and give Doig a rest.

Ross will do well to survive this horrific run but I think I would persevere for a little longer particularly as we have a couple of attackers already coming in during the winter break and possibly a few more changes to give the squad more options.

[WeeRussell]

Tbf WR like it said it’s not always the content, more how it’s put across. Maybe that’s just me though.

I’ve argued with my mates about Ross since the St J semi and always felt he’d leave because the fans had turned rather than him being headhunted. To me he’s a decent manager, no more than that. I take no pleasure in appearing to be right about that. I don’t want the upheaval of bringing in someone new, but maybe it’s better to do so now than allow him to bring in the players he wants in January, players another manager might not necessarily want.

Hard to argue with that Jeffers. Here’s hoping if what seems like the inevitable does happen… it’s more of a bounce than a noticeable upheaval.

I find it all really frustrating as I genuinely don’t think we should be far off from being a really good side. And I guess there rests the case for the prosecution…

[brianmc]

Apart from gaining promotion to the biggest league in the world after leading part time hamilton to third in the Premiership from the league below? :confused:

Ross failed to get the biggest club by miles in L1 up. And I like Jack. :aok:

I would also ask Paul Lambert if he would like a fresh start up here.

Paul Lambert? Really??

[Since452]

Jack Ross couldn’t get Sunderland out of League One with a massive budget. Never mind a promotion to the premier league.

Alex Neil would do for me.

No but he took St Mirren from the brink of relegation to the Premiership in one season. Just lost out on promotion with a car crash Sunderland despite having his best players sold from under him. Neil would be a sideways move at best.

[Heisenberg]

Apart from gaining promotion to the biggest league in the world after leading part time hamilton to third in the Premiership from the league below? :confused:

Ross failed to get the biggest club by miles in L1 up. And I like Jack. :aok:

I would also ask Paul Lambert if he would like a fresh start up here.

Paul Lambert is a dreadful manager imo. Wouldn’t have him anywhere near it.

[NC1875]

No but he took St Mirren from the brink of relegation to the Premiership in one season. Just lost out on promotion with a car crash Sunderland despite having his best players sold from under him. Neil would be a sideways move at best.

Like he just lost out in they semi finals and finals last year. He’s got no luck our Jack has he!

[Rob]

TV screens killed the atmosphere?

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No TV screens at Livi, unless I'm mistaken.

[Pagan Hibernia]

i'm actually feeling sorry for the group of posters on here that have been putting their head above the parapet and showing dissent for quite a few months and getting it tight from the REAL experts on here that have the green-tinted specs on and don't like others having a different opinion, personally i was told by one of those experts that i was making things up when i said several weeks ago that we were in for very tough games against sides scrapping for points and i couldn't see where the next win was coming from....St Johnstone aside i've not been all that far away, but it IS funny watching said poster now agreeing with others, funny old game



anyway, jack ross sounds like he was shouldering the blame tonight, he shouldn't imo...those players were an utter disgrace to the jersey, a disgrace

well, a few months ago we were near the top of the league. Quite a few months ago we finished third, although we did lose a cup final very disappointingly.

anyone calling for JR’s head back then frankly would have deserved to ‘get it tight’.

football is a funny game though, things can change very quickly, and things have turned inexorably against Ross in the last two months.

[Crab apple]

The whole playing side should be embarrassed by that performance. A complete lack of effort and application after Livi scored. I'm a bit meh about Ross and I think he does have a difficult job to do. The squad was far too small particularly up front. He has ended up not having a 9 and not having a replacement and then forcing a 10 to play 9 who simply can't do it. Our game changers barring Boyle only have one side to their game and we have our only two dimensional midfielder injured for the poor run of form. I had no thoughts about him leaving or being sacked until he bowed to the crowd and brought Allan and Doidge on at halftime. As soon as he did I felt the game was lost and I certainly lost some respect for Ross as I thought those subs were for the crowd rather than the club.

Doidge is so far off being ready it is hard to watch and when Campbell went off the little urgency we had completely disappeared. Allan actually did his best work in defence tonight but we gave up the fight with the subs and it was all very predictable that Livi took control of the game and we stood like statues when in possession with players passing the buck rather than the ball.

So many players have deserved to be dropped but the squad is so poor the replacements wouldn't be much better. I'd stick Campbell in for JDH or Newell just to give us a bit of urgency in the middle and play Gullan with Nisbet. The first thing I would do though is get Stevenson back in the team and give Doig a rest.

Ross will do well to survive this horrific run but I think I would persevere for a little longer particularly as we have a couple of attackers already coming in during the winter break and possibly a few more changes to give the squad more options.

That's pretty much how I saw it tonight although I thought Doig was a threat first half. Our heads went right down after we missed the penalty. The second half was as poor as I've seen us for some time. The summer transfer window fiasco continues to hit us hard but I think JR also has many questions to answer. This looks like a team on a downward spiral to me.

[Hiber-nation]

Best part of the night was Alex Neil and John Rankin's excellent analysis on Sportsound.

[Silky]

I never argued that top six and a decent cup run is all we want. I was arguing for why a manager would happily come to Hibs - decent salary and the absolute minimum to stay in the job should be relatively easy to achieve based on spending power (4-5 teams with much lower spending power).

Style can ultimately lead to success though. Maybe style is the wrong word. Philosophy is possibly better.

At a total different level but Klopp, Pep, Ranieri, Tuchel, Rodgers, Potter...their teams play in a certain way and they recruit players to suit that way (or players they can train to play that way). Closer to home - Ange at Celtic has a style he wants to play. They do not recruit players based on having a decent squad on paper. Most of the teams have a recognisable way of playing, some have a high press and aggressive nature (normally due to their clout within the league) and some have a lower block and counter attack with pace in their team. The fact we are currently a counter-attack team that relies on a game opening up so we can get Boyle running with yards of space is absolutely ludicrous in our league. We should be able to form something better than that. I complained about the style last season as I had concerns over when other teams improved, there were clear signs - the losses in the cups and the ridiculous thrashings we got from Livi and Ross County if memory serves me. This team has not been built to attack and nothing about JR's transfer windows has suggested we will recruit flair players to open up teams and create space.

If you cannot see a point in changing manager based on the run we are currently on and the football on display recently then I don't think there is much debate to be had. It goes beyond manager in fairness to JR, Hibs are in a bad place but are trying to convince us that things will turn some time in the future, power of positive vibes stuff rather than substance.

I understand the whole philosophy argument, I don't think that the counter attacking style is particularly beneficial to us (although, having said that I remember the whole "Gegenpressing" style Stendel adopted at Hearts-much lauded but clearly didn't work either) where teams sit in with packed midfields we can't break them down.

What I am, genuinely, not so sure about is that a manager would happily come to Hibs. A job with an 18 month-2 year shelf life-going by the longevity of previous incumbents. If it was me, I'd want time to re-build, implement my ideas and a decent run at it. Hecky and Lennon were sacked, Stubbs left (although cup win aside there was an unhappiness with his performance in some quarters), Butcher sacked, Fenlon sacked, the list goes on. I'd be looking at that list and thinking twice!

[cabbageandribs1875]

just read an e-mail from the club sent earlier this evening titled

The Season of Giving




Mmmm :hmmm:
this team is taking that literally i think

[The 90+2]

Paul Lambert? Really??


Paul Lambert is a dreadful manager imo. Wouldn’t have him anywhere near it.


I don't think he's dreadful.

It's a bit like people saying Moyes was finished and they wouldn't have taken at Scotland.

People forget the work Lambert actually done down South - took Wycombe to the League Cup Semis drawing with Chelsea when in League 2, done a fantastic job with Colchester and then built a team from a Norwich in freefall (that Colchester smashed 7-1 under PL) in L1 and built them up to eventually go up to the EPL. Went to Villa and was steady for a few seasons. Got sacked, replaced by Sherwood and next year they got relegated. Kept Blackburn up then walked as it's a basket case.

After that not so good. But he's anything but a dreadful manager. :aok:

[wookie70]

That's pretty much how I saw it tonight although I thought Doig was a threat first half. Our heads went right down after we missed the penalty. The second half was as poor as I've seen us for some time. The summer transfer window fiasco continues to hit us hard but I think JR also has many questions to answer. This looks like a team on a downward spiral to me.

Doig got forward well but he and Murphy seem to want to occupy the same space and Murphy usually slows the speed of the attack Doig has built up. Ross is certainly on the ropes but while many fans thought he was coming out swinging by the double sub at half time I thought he had chucked the towel in. The transfer window is massive for him as are getting Doidge back and able to contribute something and having Magennis back in the team. At the moment the transfer window looks like the only thing that could make us turn the corner and to me Ross has earned one more window. A massive defeat in the final might be the final nail though. I'd stick with him until 4 or 5 games after the window though.

I agree with an earlier poster and think that I really want a manager who has a philosophy and one that fits what many fans want. An attacking style of play that entertains is what I want to see. I have no idea what style of play Ross likes to play and the team is so inconsistent in terms of performance and entertainment. We have had games( a wee while back) where we have blown teams away and scored some great goals but in other games it looks like we have no desire to attack at all.

[madhatter]

I understand the whole philosophy argument, I don't think that the counter attacking style is particularly beneficial to us (although, having said that I remember the whole "Gegenpressing" style Stendel adopted at Hearts-much lauded but clearly didn't work either) where teams sit in with packed midfields we can't break them down.

What I am, genuinely, not so sure about is that a manager would happily come to Hibs. A job with an 18 month-2 year shelf life-going by the longevity of previous incumbents. If it was me, I'd want time to re-build, implement my ideas and a decent run at it. Hecky and Lennon were sacked, Stubbs left (although cup win aside there was an unhappiness with his performance in some quarters), Butcher sacked, Fenlon sacked, the list goes on. I'd be looking at that list and thinking twice!

You are maybe thinking about this from a Hibs fan perspective though. If I wasn't a Hibs fan and wanted a successful football managerial career I would take the Hibs job try to get the success as fast as possible and hopefully get the job at Celtic, Rangers or a Championship club down south. Remember there is absolutely no loyalty in football, managers will jump from job to job for money to pay the bills and, if they are any good, will try to work their way up to the major leagues to make the big bucks. Very few managers probably care about the building side of the game, Howe almost suggested in his Newcastle interview that he is only thinking about this season and staying up (highly likely if they stay up he will be replaced soon enough with a higher profile manager as the club spend money). Watford sack managers almost as often as seasons change and still are able to recruit managers.

Hibs are not that dissimilar to a lot of clubs our size. We have sacked some managers far too quickly. However, fairly certain Jack Ross has outlasted the typical stay for a lot of managers in world football. I'm sure the average was around 1.5 years - I'm sure it will vary depending on source but nevertheless managers don't stay for 5-6 years at a club building an empire. Not at our level. Certainly not when having a complete collapse.

[Magpie]

Four red cards in our last four matches.

[WhileTheChief..]

Or me,, people forget how brutal we were in the end u der him,, and when results turned he started losing the plot

Or we remember but would still prefer that to what we have now!!

[Carheenlea]

The game plan in an attacking sense gives the impression that we are only trying to score goals from headers. Out wide, cross, defender wins, out wide, cross, hit it too low, defender wins again and repeat. Not many alternative ideas or much will to try anything different. The most predictable side in the league and an opposition managers dream.

[Stuart93]

The game plan in an attacking sense gives the impression that we are only trying to score goals from headers. Out wide, cross, defender wins, out wide, cross, hit it too low, defender wins again and repeat. Not many alternative ideas or much will to try anything different. The most predictable side in the league and an opposition managers dream.

Aye became apparent our only tactics is to get the ball out wide. Very rarely will we try playing through the middle

Teams have sussed us and JR doesn’t know how to change it

[Scotty Leither]

A lot of the "flair tradition" stuff around Hibs is misty-eyed crap, and I say that as a supporter who lists amongst his favourite ever Hibs players as Edwards, Latapy, Jackson, Stanton, McGinn, Brownlie, Paatelainen, Ambrose, and Sauzee.

All guys that could play and get you off your seat, but ultimately pragmatism (especially in the modern game) will trump flowing football/flair or whatever label you want to put on it.

This current team, and manager, can't seem to at least guarantee some kind of cohesive game plan every week due in large part to an ageing, threadbare, sub-standard squad; and that current paucity of playing staff is firmly on the club.

It's a cliche, but any good teams have a decent spine; top-class imposing goalkeeper, dominant centre-half, a playmaker in the middle of the park and a centre forward that can take the ball in and ensure the team are mostly on the front foot during games.

However, that means taking a calculated punt and spending a bit of money which we still seem stubbornly reluctant to do.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Four red cards in our last four matches.

Yes, everything is going wrong for us just now.

[Jim44]

The game plan in an attacking sense gives the impression that we are only trying to score goals from headers. Out wide, cross, defender wins, out wide, cross, hit it too low, defender wins again and repeat. Not many alternative ideas or much will to try anything different. The most predictable side in the league and an opposition managers dream.

..... :agree: the proverbial soft touch, yet again. Plus ca change and all that. We’re in a time warp and can’t seem to be able to get out of it.

[Turkish Green]

3 shots on target from 15 attempts according to BBC. Ross is resembling a Butcheresque scenario. The same players are now not gelling under Ross. Bottom Six.

[Turkish Green]

I don't think he's dreadful.

It's a bit like people saying Moyes was finished and they wouldn't have taken at Scotland.

People forget the work Lambert actually done down South - took Wycombe to the League Cup Semis drawing with Chelsea when in League 2, done a fantastic job with Colchester and then built a team from a Norwich in freefall (that Colchester smashed 7-1 under PL) in L1 and built them up to eventually go up to the EPL. Went to Villa and was steady for a few seasons. Got sacked, replaced by Sherwood and next year they got relegated. Kept Blackburn up then walked as it's a basket case.

After that not so good. But he's anything but a dreadful manager. :aok:

Managers have to fit the club and vice versa. Ross does not fit Hibs and Hibs does not fit Ross.

i would accept Lambert.

[Greenio]

In business, would you sack a bad GM off the back of half a bad 1/4, even if his last 8 had been strong?

[Onion]

Four red cards in our last four matches.

Shocking stat and suggests things are not at all good behind the scenes. Long term injuries are another worrying indicator.

[SMAXXA]

Managers have to fit the club and vice versa. Ross does not fit Hibs and Hibs does not fit Ross.

i would accept Lambert.

Disagree on both fronts why doesn’t Hibs and JR not fit? And wouldn’t touch lambert with a barge pole

[SMAXXA]

Shocking stat and suggests things are not at all good behind the scenes. Long term injuries are another worrying indicator.

How does that suggest things arnt great behind the scenes, utter rubbish.

[Fuzzywuzzy]

Talking about this leaving the game tonight. JDH being extended until 2025 based on nothing. Josh Campbell the same based on not very much. We’ll continue going round in circles with the same average players in defence as well.


Funnily enough, neilson mentioned this in an interview when talking about their players coming to the end of their contract. He said you'll get more out of a player fighting for a contract rather than those that are on a long deal as they know they are safe

[Slim Shady]

Four red cards in our last four matches.

Last 9 League Games
6 Red
5 Goals

[Fuzzywuzzy]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/59587785

Apologies if posted elsewhere

[Libby Hibby]

Is Ross away yet?

[Hiber-nation]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/59587785

Apologies if posted elsewhere

As I posted last night the analysis from Neil and Rankin was excellent, Sportsound pundits who actually seemed to have an interest in how we play rather than the usual suspects giving bland non-opinions.

[JimBHibees]

As I posted last night the analysis from Neil and Rankin was excellent, Sportsound pundits who actually seemed to have an interest in how we play rather than the usual suspects giving bland non-opinions.

Just started to listen to it.

[Not In The Know]

Really Torn between giving Ross time which before last night I felt he had earned. Or, moving for Neil as he’s available.

Neil’s record trumps Ross…

[Steven79]

Still nothing on YouTube ("highlights" or inteviews) or twitter which isn't normal.

Wonder if something is happening...

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[Coco Bryce]

Still nothing on YouTube ("highlights" or inteviews) or twitter which isn't normal.

Wonder if something is happening...

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Yeah noticed that. Hibs Twitter is usually very active. Not a peep since FT last night.

[Heisenberg]

Yeah noticed that. Hibs Twitter is usually very active. Not a peep since FT last night.

Probably because they know it’ll be met with constant abuse. It’s the beginning of the end.

[Northernhibee]

I have a hunch he may have resigned from the “taking responsibility” line he used in his press conference last night.

Much as the last few games can’t be tolerated, he’s a classy guy.

[The Spaceman]

I have a hunch he may have resigned from the “taking responsibility” line he used in his press conference last night.

Much as the last few games can’t be tolerated, he’s a classy guy.

Absolutely. Can leave us with his head held high and an overall success.

[greenlex]

McGinns red last night was a shambles. Hanlon was unlucky. Debatable it was even a foul never mind a yellow.

[Steven79]

McGinns red last night was a shambles. Hanlon was unlucky. Debatable it was even a foul never mind a yellow.

Hanlon should have been sent off earlier...

[MWHIBBIES]

Hanlon should have been sent off earlier...

100% he should've. That was dreadful refereeing. Stone wall red for denying a clear goalscoring oppertunity with a foul outside the box.