Rangers fans

[hibbysam]

Glasgow figures significantly higher than elsewhere the last few days

Just a number of months ago we were told it takes 3 weeks for data to catch up. If that’s the case then the numbers have nothing to do with last weekends celebrations.

[jingler1954]

Sevco and septic should be told if their fans break the law re covid 19 they will play behind closed doors all next season. That should stop any gatherings.

[Keith_M]

The number of services on the Glasgow underground is to be increased on Sunday, due to an anticipated increase in demand.


https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/19163876.glasgow-subway-staff-briefed-extra-trains-old-firm-match/

Hunbelievable!


:rolleyes:

[Greenbeard]

The number of services on the Glasgow underground is to be increased on Sunday, due to an anticipated increase in demand.


https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/19163876.glasgow-subway-staff-briefed-extra-trains-old-firm-match/

Hunbelievable!


:rolleyes:
The opposite should be happening!

[JimBHibees]

The number of services on the Glasgow underground is to be increased on Sunday, due to an anticipated increase in demand.


https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/19163876.glasgow-subway-staff-briefed-extra-trains-old-firm-match/

Hunbelievable!


:rolleyes:

Makes no sense

[CropleyWasGod]

Makes no sense

It does if there is a secret tunnel off the underground circle, and trains are diverted through it to somewhere in deepest Lanarkshire..................

[JimBHibees]

It does if there is a secret tunnel off the underground circle, and trains are diverted through it to somewhere in deepest Lanarkshire..................

If only :greengrin

[Ronniekirk]

The number of services on the Glasgow underground is to be increased on Sunday, due to an anticipated increase in demand.


https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/19163876.glasgow-subway-staff-briefed-extra-trains-old-firm-match/

Hunbelievable!


:rolleyes:

So basically putting on extra trains fir an Event at Ibrox ?
If game goes ahead and there is a further larger gathering at Ibrox or wherever then I fir one won’t be happy about this
It would seem like one rule fir Rangers fans and another for the rest of us
Can’t believe the Goverment is condoning this



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[kaimendhibs]

It does if there is a secret tunnel off the underground circle, and trains are diverted through it to somewhere in deepest Lanarkshire..................What have I done to you?[emoji24]

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[cabbageandribs1875]

So basically putting on extra trains fir an Event at Ibrox ?
If game goes ahead and there is a further larger gathering at Ibrox or wherever then I fir one won’t be happy about this
It would seem like one rule fir Rangers fans and another for the rest of us
Can’t believe the Goverment is condoning this



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this one is at Parkhead but no doubt we will see the same again for the game at ibrox after the split


and i really don't think the government are condoning it, i'm honestly not sure what actions the Government can take

[CapitalGreen]

Just a number of months ago we were told it takes 3 weeks for data to catch up. If that’s the case then the numbers have nothing to do with last weekends celebrations.

Not sure where you’re taking the 3 weeks figure from.

“What is the incubation period of the coronavirus disease?

The incubation period of COVID-19, which is the time between exposure to the virus and symptom onset, is on average 5-6 days, but can be as long as 14 days.” - W.H.O.

[calumhibee1]

The number of services on the Glasgow underground is to be increased on Sunday, due to an anticipated increase in demand.


https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/19163876.glasgow-subway-staff-briefed-extra-trains-old-firm-match/

Hunbelievable!


:rolleyes:

:faf:

You’ve got to laugh.

What a ****ing disgrace. Shut the whole underground down for the day. Lothian Buses are stopping services because of neds with bricks yet Glasgow are actually putting on more trains to facilitate neds with Covid having parties.

[hibbysam]

Not sure where you’re taking the 3 weeks figure from.

“What is the incubation period of the coronavirus disease?

The incubation period of COVID-19, which is the time between exposure to the virus and symptom onset, is on average 5-6 days, but can be as long as 14 days.” - W.H.O.

The reason for the three week periods between changes all through Covid is due to the time it takes to take effect. Not just incubation period but for symptoms to show thereafter, to be tested, to get test results back etc. There’s no way that any surge can be attributed to the football within 1 week. The surge was on the Tuesday (two days after the ‘event’) and then died down towards the end of the week.

[Onion]

:faf:

You’ve got to laugh.

What a ****ing disgrace. Shut the whole underground down for the day. Lothian Buses are stopping services because of neds with bricks yet Glasgow are actually putting on more trains to facilitate neds with Covid having parties.

Indeed. If there is a mass gathering similar to last week, the general public will be furious - less so with the Hun morons and more with the Government, Police and authorities who have failed to manage an expected problem.

[CapitalGreen]

The reason for the three week periods between changes all through Covid is due to the time it takes to take effect. Not just incubation period but for symptoms to show thereafter, to be tested, to get test results back etc. There’s no way that any surge can be attributed to the football within 1 week. The surge was on the Tuesday (two days after the ‘event’) and then died down towards the end of the week.

I’ve literally posted the WHO definition and average time of incubation in my previous post. Average 5-6 days from infection to symptoms showing. Test turnaround is about 24-48 so another 2 days. Therefore, even allowing for delays any increases in infection occurring on Saturday 6th March would be expected to start showing in the stats around about now.

Just re-read your post, I think you may be confused when the Rangers v St Mirren match took place.

[hibbysam]

I’ve literally posted the WHO definition and average time of incubation in my previous post. Average 5-6 days from infection to symptoms showing. Test turnaround is about 24-48 so another 2 days. Therefore, even allowing for delays any increases in infection occurring on Saturday 6th March would be expected to start showing in the stats around about now.

Just re-read your post, I think you may be confused when the Rangers v St Mirren match took place.

I’m not confused, the data that’s being shown now is for week ending March 12th, less than a week after the football. Diving deeper into the data and during this week the spike was on the Tuesday, 2 days after Celtic Dundee United, and 3 days after Rangers St Mirren. The end of that week then reverted back to previous levels.

Incubation periods of 5/6 days average and 2 days test turnaround yet relating a surge in 7 day cases to an event that took place 2/3 days before. Plausible.

The fact sturgeon is calling them out about lying to track and trace confirms to me that there’s no proof any of those who have tested positive were in or around Ibrox or George Square.

[Mutu]

The opposite should be happening!

Can't stop them from travelling.

May as well increase service to mitigate the mixing.

[calumhibee1]

Can't stop them from travelling.

May as well increase service to mitigate the mixing.

You can if you shut down the whole service.

Lothian Buses are doing it here due to a different set of ********s.

[Gordy M]

Indeed. If there is a mass gathering similar to last week, the general public will be furious - less so with the Hun morons and more with the Government, Police and authorities who have failed to manage an expected problem.

They know there may be a problem, what do you now expect them to do? Serious question? If large amounts of people decide to do something, there is very little anyone can do apart from manage what is in front of them.

[The dalmeny]

Indeed. If there is a mass gathering similar to last week, the general public will be furious - less so with the Hun morons and more with the Government, Police and authorities who have failed to manage an expected problem.

theres expectations of gatherings at the training ground

[Moulin Yarns]

Indeed. If there is a mass gathering similar to last week, the general public will be furious - less so with the Hun morons and more with the Government, Police and authorities who have failed to manage an expected problem.

Maybe the plan is to get the huns on the clockwork orange and not let them off again 😁

[FilipinoHibs]

Not sure where you’re taking the 3 weeks figure from.

“What is the incubation period of the coronavirus disease?

The incubation period of COVID-19, which is the time between exposure to the virus and symptom onset, is on average 5-6 days, but can be as long as 14 days.” - W.H.O.

Yes a number of those who tested positive admitted they took part in the "celebrations". Expect the numbers to grow over the next week.

[Iggy Pope]

Maybe the plan is to get the huns on the clockwork orange and not let them off again 😁

I’d gladly buy a pass for one or two apologists on here to join them.

[ian cruise]

Sevco and septic should be told if their fans break the law re covid 19 they will play behind closed doors all next season. That should stop any gatherings.

This is the best solution I've seen suggested, I think it's about all you can do.

[Hillsidehibby]

No way am I condoning this but you should have seen The Meadows yesterday. Absolutely heaving with large groups on the bevvy.
The cops are powerless unless it’s a couple of women walking two miles for a coffee.

[Onion]

They know there may be a problem, what do you now expect them to do? Serious question? If large amounts of people decide to do something, there is very little anyone can do apart from manage what is in front of them.

Happily, not my problem :greengrin But here's a few thoughts :

Clubs and government could issue MUCH sterner warnings, explaining :

1. anyone found congregating on the day of the match will be photographed/identified/arrested and fined.
2. any large gatherings will be dispersed by water cannon incorporating a delightful, semi-permanent Green dye for Sevco gatherings and bright Orange for Celtic fans
3. any signs of significant gatherings before match, game immediately CANCELLED.
4. any significant gatherings during the match, game immediately ABANDONED (score carried over).
5. both clubs told to play/continue the match at an unspecified time & location somewhere in the UK, with Celtic forced to play in blue and Sevco in green & white stripes.

This is a general public health issue and needs to be treated as such. If an OF game produces a potential health/public order risk, then the game should be removed.

[DH1875]

Am I missing something. Why would their fans head for Ibrox on Sunday anyway. They've already won the league and had their celebrations so what's so special about Sunday? Far as I can see nothing special about it. Why now, why not end of season or even after the 4th oldfirm. I don't get it and even if fans do turn up I doubt it'll be in numbers like last week so would expect more from police this time around.

[Billy Whizz]

No way am I condoning this but you should have seen The Meadows yesterday. Absolutely heaving with large groups on the bevvy.
The cops are powerless unless it’s a couple of women walking two miles for a coffee.

I thought drinking outside just now was illegal???

[Sir David Gray]

I thought drinking outside just now was illegal???

It is.

[Jones28]

So basically putting on extra trains fir an Event at Ibrox ?
If game goes ahead and there is a further larger gathering at Ibrox or wherever then I fir one won’t be happy about this
It would seem like one rule fir Rangers fans and another for the rest of us
Can’t believe the Goverment is condoning this



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Where on earth are you getting that idea from?

[Jones28]

You can if you shut down the whole service.

Lothian Buses are doing it here due to a different set of ********s.

:agree: remove the means for them to get to the event and you have a lot less people there.

[Ronniekirk]

Where on earth are you getting that idea from?

There had been meetings between Goverment police and others about Sunday’s game Reassurances were sought Surely someone must have thought if fans congregate a lot will get public transport into city etc
How difficult would it of been to ask the questions what the position with public transport and the suggest to the transport bodies not to
Put on more trains or why’s ever it is is being increased
It’s common sense to me Putvon
More transport and more fans may choose to use it
If the increase was to happen as pArt of plan to get things back to normal ,delaying it a day wouldn’t be the end of the world
The government knew Celtic were going to Dubai and when the **** hit the fan they weren’t happy
They weren’t happy with title winning celebrations
They have sought assurances about this Sunday but I would of thought take no chances and don’t make it easier for fans to travel



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[Ronniekirk]

:agree: remove the means for them to get to the event and you have a lot less people there.

Exactly simple solution


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[Keith_M]

There had been meetings between Goverment police and others about Sunday’s game Reassurances were sought Surely someone must have thought if fans congregate a lot will get public transport into city etc
How difficult would it of been to ask the questions what the position with public transport and the suggest to the transport bodies not to
Put on more trains or why’s ever it is is being increased
It’s common sense to me Putvon
More transport and more fans may choose to use it
If the increase was to happen as pArt of plan to get things back to normal ,delaying it a day wouldn’t be the end of the world
The government knew Celtic were going to Dubai and when the **** hit the fan they weren’t happy
They weren’t happy with title winning celebrations
They have sought assurances about this Sunday but I would of thought take no chances and don’t make it easier for fans to travel
...


AFAIK, it was a decision by the Glasgow Subway, not the SG.

Contrary to popular opinion, the SG aren't in charge of absolutely everything in Scotland, or consulted about every decision, so I'm struggling to see where you get their involvement in this.

[Coach Jon]

Being reported that more than 30 police officers are now having to isolate due to some positive tests after last weeks Rangers Title Celebrations.

[Casey1875]

Being reported that more than 30 police officers are now having to isolate due to some positive tests after last weeks Rangers Title Celebrations.

Would be interesting to know how many were off duty.

[Mutu]

Exactly simple solution


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And you've also successfully cut off a key public transport route for the entire day.

Honestly....

[A Hi-Bee]

Would be interesting to know how many were off duty.

thats what happens when they all go around kissing and hugging each other to celebrate the sevco teams very first title win.

:greengrin

[Ronniekirk]

And you've also successfully cut off a key public transport route for the entire day.

Honestly....

No just wouldn’t increase it on Sunday it could wait till the Monday for services to be increased



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[Ronniekirk]

Would be interesting to know how many were off duty.

Said on Scottish news some of those self isolating were having to do so as they close contacts with fans who had tested positive But it didn’t give a breakdown


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[Bishop Hibee]

Huns breaking lockdown restrictions in Armadale today. https://twitter.com/wulliewanfit/status/1373649818044760070?s=21

[CraigHibee]

Huns breaking lockdown restrictions in Armadale today. https://twitter.com/wulliewanfit/status/1373649818044760070?s=21

Some celebration for a draw 🙄

[Sir David Gray]

The Falkirk area's full of red, white and blue kerbsides this weekend and they've even changed one of the speed limit signs to "55".

[Keith_M]

Glasgow's full of neds setting off fireworks.

Brainless idiots.

[PatHead]

The Falkirk area's full of red, white and blue kerbsides this weekend and they've even changed one of the speed limit signs to "55".

Noticed Bonnyrigg has had kerb stones painted as well. You would think it was their first ever trophy!

[Keith_M]

Noticed Bonnyrigg has had kerb stones painted as well. You would think it was their first ever trophy!


Paint remover required in large doses, methinks.

[BILLYHIBS]

Animals

[McSwanky]

All this celebration and vandalism today just goes to show, once again, that Rangers are totally and completely defined by their relationship with Celtic. Pathetic.

[Renfrew_Hibby]

Lots of fairly sinister messages appearing all over Renfrew these last few days, and the main road leading into the town centre bedecked with UJs on the lampposts today.
I dont know about other heavy gers areas but we've been having the fireworks for days now and at all times of the day, really antisocial stuff. 6:15 am this morning... really? I'm all for celebrating but the local plod should be cracking down with that sort of stuff.

[Sir David Gray]

Fireworks going off here just now.

[Lancs Harp]

Nothing in Lytham St Annes :wink::greengrin Rangers free area (if only)

[660]

Fireworks going off here just now.

Where is here

[Sir David Gray]

Where is here

Just outside Falkirk.

[McSwanky]

Carberry today. Clearly a hotbed of Hunnery?? https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210321/300bbb60f48693103622413fbcb07a7b.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210321/01d6e40b4618d85d87f8481b5d9a05a7.jpg

[Pretty Boy]

The whole painting the kerbs and hanging flags is schoolboy stuff. I get it costs money to clean up but it's relatively harmless.

The more sinister messaging needs dealt with though as does the people out partying again. I understood it, without condoning it, after they actually won the league. Today is just antagonistic and needless nonsense.

[Lancs Harp]

Carberry today. Clearly a hotbed of Hunnery?? https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210321/300bbb60f48693103622413fbcb07a7b.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210321/01d6e40b4618d85d87f8481b5d9a05a7.jpg

Even the cyclist is wearing an orange vest :greengrin

[green day]

Huns breaking lockdown restrictions in Armadale today. https://twitter.com/wulliewanfit/status/1373649818044760070?s=21

Tramps.

It's thick pricks like them that mean the rest of us cannae get into pubs and restaurants for weeks and weeks.

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

Paint remover required in large doses, methinks.

Nah, just paint over it green white and gold😉

[FilipinoHibs]

Scotland this past week has significantly more covid 19 cases per 100,000 than any other part of the UK. I wonder why?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-scotland-53511877

[calumhibee1]

Scotland this past week has significantly more covid 19 cases per 100,000 than any other part of the UK. I wonder why?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-scotland-53511877

Yup. And to think people were sticking up for them the other week.

[EI255]

No class.

Father's and sons gather wearing hun tops and trackie bottoms whilst swigging Buckfast.

Was hoping a flare might go astray..... Right into the gob of one of them.

[Peevemor]

Yup. And to think people were sticking up for them the other week.

From what I recall, all that was said was that had Hibs won the league then there doubtless would have been people turn up at Easter Road to celebrate.

Hardly sticking up for them, just being realistic.

[theonlywayisup]

Scotland this past week has significantly more covid 19 cases per 100,000 than any other part of the UK. I wonder why?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-scotland-53511877

Whilst I think it would be great to blame the league celebrations, I believe the reason being cited is that it's the return of kids to school three weeks ago that's the real reason. Though not doubting that some of the increase would be due to the former.

[calumhibee1]

From what I recall, all that was said was that had Hibs won the league then there doubtless would have been people turn up at Easter Road to celebrate.

Hardly sticking up for them, just being realistic.

Whataboutery declaring Hibs fans would do something that we haven’t done to justify something incredibly stupid that Rangers fans have done on numerous occasions now and will no doubt do numerous more times before the end of the season is most definitely sticking up for them in my eyes.

[Peevemor]

Whataboutery declaring Hibs fans would do something that we haven’t done to justify something incredibly stupid that Rangers fans have done on numerous occasions now and will no doubt do numerous more times before the end of the season is most definitely sticking up for them in my eyes.

Fine, unfortunately we're not all as perfect as you.

[calumhibee1]

Fine, unfortunately we're not all as perfect as you.

I know.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Aamer Anwar🎗✊🏽#BlackLivesMatter on Twitter: "Horrific barbaric murder on Sunday, yet hardly merits any news coverage? Young dad, Celtic fan Kamil Charyszyn💔killed after shouting match with 3 men & woman who emerged from flats deck*ed in Rangers colours. Chased & throat slashed with a machete @policescotland appeal 4info https://t.co/s0DMvEMMBh" / Twitter (https://twitter.com/AamerAnwar/status/1374485392720683008?s=04&fbclid=IwAR3q1t7lbopj5sB8bLv1Y8i8etcP8m1Wmg2FQ6Hee p7pRPfkbOf0-EVIzCE)


Horrific barbaric murder on Sunday, yet hardly merits any news coverage? Young dad, Celtic fan Kamil Charyszyn
https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f494.png
killed after shouting match with 3 men & woman who emerged from flats deck*ed in Rangers colours. Chased & throat slashed with a machete @policescotland (https://twitter.com/policescotland)
appeal 4info

[Billy Whizz]

Aamer Anwar🎗✊🏽#BlackLivesMatter on Twitter: "Horrific barbaric murder on Sunday, yet hardly merits any news coverage? Young dad, Celtic fan Kamil Charyszyn💔killed after shouting match with 3 men & woman who emerged from flats deck*ed in Rangers colours. Chased & throat slashed with a machete @policescotland appeal 4info https://t.co/s0DMvEMMBh" / Twitter (https://twitter.com/AamerAnwar/status/1374485392720683008?s=04&fbclid=IwAR3q1t7lbopj5sB8bLv1Y8i8etcP8m1Wmg2FQ6Hee p7pRPfkbOf0-EVIzCE)


Horrific barbaric murder on Sunday, yet hardly merits any news coverage? Young dad, Celtic fan Kamil Charyszyn
https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f494.png
killed after shouting match with 3 men & woman who emerged from flats deck*ed in Rangers colours. Chased & throat slashed with a machete @policescotland (https://twitter.com/policescotland)
appeal 4info

Just awful
Also who runs about with a machete

[cabbageandribs1875]

Just awful
Also who runs about with a machete


looking at that photo i'm not sure if maybe one of them went back in the house to get it, as Anwar says there's not exactly much info about in the news

[Billy Whizz]

looking at that photo i'm not sure if maybe one of them went back in the house to get it, as Anwar says there's not exactly much info about in the news

A 22 year old man has been arrested

[FilipinoHibs]

Whilst I think it would be great to blame the league celebrations, I believe the reason being cited is that it's the return of kids to school three weeks ago that's the real reason. Though not doubting that some of the increase would be due to the former.

Look at the hot spots. It's Glasgow and all the hun areas.

[Bangkok Hibby]

Just awful
Also who runs about with a machete

haven't read the story and I'm not going to but I can tell you I've worked with some fanatical huns in my time, who have gone out after work with 12-18" blades in holsters down their backs underneath their jackets.

[Logie Green]

I see some of them are not happy that their Scottish Cup tie at Cove Rangers will kick off at 6.30pm on a Sunday.

“Terrible time”, “shocking decision” etc.

Funny how 6.30pm is not a good time to watch a football match on TV but is an acceptable time to march, gather in large numbers to celebrate and generally be a pain in the arse.

Strange people.

[JimBHibees]

I see some of them are not happy that their Scottish Cup tie at Cove Rangers will kick off at 6.30pm on a Sunday.

“Terrible time”, “shocking decision” etc.

Funny how 6.30pm is not a good time to watch a football match on TV but is an acceptable time to march, gather in large numbers to celebrate and generally be a pain in the arse.

Strange people.

Given they won't be going to the game and they will watch it on tv anyway what difference does it make. :rolleyes:

[neil7908]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56577821

Whilst I agree with what he says, is Sevco's whole thing about sectarianism not that even though its their fans doing it in their stadium, they aren't responsible in anyway?

Justin for once I wish a journalist in Scotland would ask them some tough questions.

[Eyrie]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56577821

Whilst I agree with what he says, is Sevco's whole thing about sectarianism not that even though its their fans doing it in their stadium, they aren't responsible in anyway?

Justin for once I wish a journalist in Scotland would ask them some tough questions.

The usual hypocrisy from Sevco.

[CentreLine]

Aamer Anwar🎗✊🏽#BlackLivesMatter on Twitter: "Horrific barbaric murder on Sunday, yet hardly merits any news coverage? Young dad, Celtic fan Kamil Charyszyn💔killed after shouting match with 3 men & woman who emerged from flats deck*ed in Rangers colours. Chased & throat slashed with a machete @policescotland appeal 4info https://t.co/s0DMvEMMBh" / Twitter (https://twitter.com/AamerAnwar/status/1374485392720683008?s=04&fbclid=IwAR3q1t7lbopj5sB8bLv1Y8i8etcP8m1Wmg2FQ6Hee p7pRPfkbOf0-EVIzCE)


Horrific barbaric murder on Sunday, yet hardly merits any news coverage? Young dad, Celtic fan Kamil Charyszyn
https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f494.png
killed after shouting match with 3 men & woman who emerged from flats deck*ed in Rangers colours. Chased & throat slashed with a machete @policescotland (https://twitter.com/policescotland)
appeal 4info

That is utterly disgusting. We get fed the mainstream agenda whilst, in the background and totally invisible to us all, one poor soul has lost his life with every indication it is football sectarianism related. This is so symptomatic of the failure of the SMSM to properly reflect the deep rooted sectarianism within Scotland, especially in Scottish football. It also reflects the Scottish football authorities failure to address what is staring them in the face.
What sort of society do we live in that allows this to go unnoticed while we are fed the “don’t look at that, look over here” agenda?

[JohnMcM]

That is utterly disgusting. We get fed the mainstream agenda whilst, in the background and totally invisible to us all, one poor soul has lost his life with every indication it is football sectarianism related. This is so symptomatic of the failure of the SMSM to properly reflect the deep rooted sectarianism within Scotland, especially in Scottish football. It also reflects the Scottish football authorities failure to address what is staring them in the face.
What sort of society do we live in that allows this to go unnoticed while we are fed the “don’t look at that, look over here” agenda?

On a similar theme, someone from Sevco management has today said the government should do something about racism on social media - which is fair enough. The hypocrisy of them saying that is beyond belief though. Have they ever taken a look at their own fan social media forums?