The Rangers Dossier Delayed

[FilipinoHibs]

Does anybody what time the meeting is today?

[JeMeSouviens]

I've asked it before but why the **** are Rangers so bothered about all this in the first place?! I can get why Hearts are trying anything they can to weasel out of relegation, but Rangers? What's their gripe? Are they really going to all this bother because they can't handle Celtic (deservedly) being declared champions if so, pathetic doesn't do justice to their behaviour in the current global climate.

They are trying to pull off a delicate balance of getting the 2nd place money while denying or at least tainting Celtc’s 10iar. This is probably their last chance to do that. They need the Sevconians to feel enough injustice to blame the Fenian conspiracy rather than their own inadequacy so they’ll buy more season tickets.

[Bostonhibby]

They are trying to pull off a delicate balance of getting the 2nd place money while denying or at least tainting Celtc’s 10iar. This is probably their last chance to do that. They need the Sevconians to feel enough injustice to blame the Fenian conspiracy rather than their own inadequacy so they’ll buy more season tickets.Feels very much like when they get to choose between whether they are the now defunct Glasgow rangers or sevco.

A real test for the authorities credibility this time.

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[jacomo]

Has there been a Celtic statement throughout any of this extended farce? They must be sitting back purring with delight watching all this nonsense going on. It’s all a win/win for them.

Hibs should do the same, keep our mouths shut and not intrude into other people’s personal grief, unless we are brought into it by their false accusations.


Scott Brown, Lennon and others were put forward to quash any suggestion that the season should be declared null and void.

Since then they have been very quiet. Nothing to be gained by arguing in public with The Rangers.

[Aldo]

It seems either Brechin are lying on Rangers are. If it is Brechin then the other League 2 clubs will come out and refute the Brechin statement.

Same with the Dunfermline statement about the accusations of bullying.

https://www.dafc.co.uk/story.php?t=Chairman%60s_Statement_&ID=11909

If Dunfermline are wrong then the other 5 Championship clubs mentioned in their statement will come out and refute it.

If the dossier is wrong about both of the above then there are serious doubts over the veracity of the whole dossier.

Indeed however I would suggest that the DAFC chairman has actually discussed what he intended on publishing’s with these clubs prior to it going public.

In all this it appears that Mr Gardiner is the instigator in much of these shenanigans. Clubs don’t/won’t forget this


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[Bostonhibby]

Indeed however I would suggest that the DAFC chairman has actually discussed what he intended on publishing’s with these clubs prior to it going public.

In all this it appears that Mr Gardiner is the instigator in much of these shenanigans. Clubs don’t/won’t forget this


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkThere's no wiggle room, a formal statement from him then an open court cross examination would be wonderful.

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[Aldo]

There's no wiggle room, a formal statement from him then an open court cross examination would be wonderful.

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It would be however it wouldn’t surprise me if there were a lot more discussions around all this with Mr Gardiner being very liberal with what he leaks!


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[Ozyhibby]

It seems clear that Gardiner either supports Rangers or has strong affinity with them. I think all Rangers supporters would consider this acceptable and neither here nor there.
However, on the front page of FF Fanzine they have an article today, decrying John Nelms for being a Celtic supporter or at least has strong affinities with Celtic.

For a man who has recently become the subject of so much interest in Scottish football, John Nelms is largely unknown to most Scottish football fans.
He came to Dundee alongside his pal Tim Keys – Keys is the son of James H Keys the owner of the massive industrial Johnson Controls company.
Neither are native Texans but met when Keys’ son joined a football club coached by Nelms. The club was a pay-for-play franchised offshoot of the Houston Dynamos MLS team. At the time Nelms was living in rented accommodation in Austin. Once Keys started to look for a soccer club to invest in Nelms would rise alongside him.
After being courted by St Mirren, Keys decided to settle on Dundee FC and along with a couple of other investors new shares and funds were issued and in all, by various means, somewhere between £650,000 and £850,000 were invested by new funds and buying existing shares.
Since then Mr Nelms has flourished as managing director of Dundee FC – so much so that he now lives with his family in an 8,000 square feet mansion formerly owned by the DC Thomson publishing family.
He’s also taken on a directorship of a brewing company – which coincidentally he came into contact with through a beer festival which is hosted at Dens Park every year.
His profile also rose as he became more active within the corridors of power in Scottish football – almost immediately, in 2015, there was the curious episode where the SPFL suddenly considered the idea of Celtic playing a league game in America to showcase the SPFL and Dundee were keen to assist. This would of course require some tinkering with regulations so that teams not playing the same in the same venues would not suffer a sporting disadvantage.
In season 2016-17 Dundee were awarded a Dundee v Celtic match for 19th March – the weekend of St Patrick’s Day.
In the last season Dundee were in Premiership (2018-19) some may consider it very curious and wonderfully coincidental that the SPFL’s super duper Canadian fixture computer again generated a Dundee v Celtic match for *St Patrick’s Day weekend – March 16th. How lucky was that?
And this would, or course, be really lovely for John. This is not his first spell in Scotland. His father was a contractor working for the US Navy at the Faslane submarine yards for three years during formative years. Years in which John became a Celtic fan and still proudly shows close friends a picture of himself in their colours.
All in all, a wonderful series of coincidences don’t you think?

A clearer case of corruption you will not see. Celtic’s inability to sell out away ends except on St. Pat’s day is legendary.[emoji849]
How were Dundee to cash in on this obvious windfall in a stadium that can’t sell beer?


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[Bostonhibby]

It would be however it wouldn’t surprise me if there were a lot more discussions around all this with Mr Gardiner being very liberal with what he leaks!


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkSo more folk may well have corroborating statements to give.

Legal proceedings would be highly entertaining. The half dozen just need to move from talking to doing. No wonder celtc are sitting laughing.

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[007]

Indeed however I would suggest that the DAFC chairman has actually discussed what he intended on publishing’s with these clubs prior to it going public.

In all this it appears that Mr Gardiner is the instigator in much of these shenanigans. Clubs don’t/won’t forget this


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Totally agree which is why I believe Dunfermline and Brechin over Rangers and Inverness.

[Aldo]

So more folk may well have corroborating statements to give.

Legal proceedings would be highly entertaining.

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These sort of things will come back to bite them and the DAFC statement kind of confirms that.


Totally agree which is why I believe Dunfermline and Brechin over Rangers and Inverness.

Without a doubt. ICT dragging other clubs into all this expecting them to lie down and take it.

Popcorn time once again today.

I posted elsewhere but I think it’ll get announced today that Celtic are champs and the chumps are relegated


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[007]

They are trying to pull off a delicate balance of getting the 2nd place money while denying or at least tainting Celtc’s 10iar. This is probably their last chance to do that. They need the Sevconians to feel enough injustice to blame the Fenian conspiracy rather than their own inadequacy so they’ll buy more season tickets.

And maybe also trying to remove SPFL employees from the board that they see as having Celtic leanings.

[NthCarolinaHibs]

Does anybody what time the meeting is today?

Radio Scotland said earlier, " late morning"..

[Bostonhibby]

And maybe also trying to remove SPFL employees from the board that they see as having Celtic leanings.And replacing them with?.........

No answer required

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[Ozyhibby]

Stenhousemuir now with a statement.


https://www.stenhousemuirfc.com/2020/05/12/statement-on-the-spfl-egm/

They are voting in favour of an investigation.


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[The Count]

Just had a dream that Rangers issued an honest statement."We are not doing this for the good of Scottish Football we are just trying to tarnish Celtics title".Followed by Hearts statement "We are not doing this for the good of Scottish football we are just trying everything to escaoe rekegation".Followed by Gardners tweeting "I am a Hun through and through and dont want Celtic winning 19 in a row".Then Leslie Deans tweeted "Yes i am a bag of hot air spoutung rubbish".Then i woke up to reality and the lies.

[steviehibsleith]

Vote supposed to start 11am

What chance does Scottish football have when you read the morning paper and Gerry Brittan Partick thistle saying even if we get 33% we should still have a independent enquiry wtf .....
Journalists like English saying 8 clubs are unhappy so what If there’s a vote and you lose bloody accept it and let’s move on
Guaranteed we will have the vote today followed by more rubbish and statements.

[FilipinoHibs]

Radio Scotland said earlier, " late morning"..

Thanks. Should still be awake for the result and further statements.

[CentreLine]

I've asked it before but why the **** are Rangers so bothered about all this in the first place?! I can get why Hearts are trying anything they can to weasel out of relegation, but Rangers? What's their gripe? Are they really going to all this bother because they can't handle Celtic (deservedly) being declared champions? If so, pathetic doesn't do justice to their behaviour in the current global climate.

My memory may not be as sharp as it once was but I seem to recall all sorts of threats, on various Rangers fan sites and as Rangers Football Club (IL) was going down, that they would take revenge on Scottish football and do everything they could to bring it to its knees. Ever since the new club was allowed to fill the shoes of Rangers Football Club (IL) there have been a number of outburst, from that particular club, randomly claiming foul play. I don’t think we should be surprised at any of this, coming from that particular club.

[Rumble de Thump]

Every question that was put to the SPFL has been answered clearly by them. Sevco claimed to have evidence of wrongdoing and they failed to provide any evidence whatsoever. So what is it that is supposed to be getting investigated and why?

[007]

Stenhousemuir now with a statement.


https://www.stenhousemuirfc.com/2020/05/12/statement-on-the-spfl-egm/

They are voting in favour of an investigation.


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Don't know what their beef is but no doubt Celtic fans will now be looking at the background of the Stenhousemuir board for any connections to Rangers.

[davym7062]

They wouldn't accept the investigation outcomes though if it went against them. Let's vote it out and let them moan. Shambles of a club.

The one interesting aspect of this whole thing has been the complete silence from Celtic.

absolutely jim, celtic dont need to say anything YET. u can be sure we will here from them if for some reason they dont get the title

[CraigHibee]

i reckon after the clubs vote today (and no further action) that they will call the league as it is, can't wait to feel even more seethe from the spam farts

[Aldo]

i reckon after the clubs vote today (and no further action) that they will call the league as it is, can't wait to feel even more seethe from the spam farts

Exactly. I hope this is the case. Would make for a very enjoyable evening.


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[greenginger]

I’ve been having a look through Companies House site at mr Scot Gardiner ( born Aug 1965 ) .

Firstly he is not listed a a director of Inverness Caledonian Thistle F C . And checking back neither was he listed as a director of Dundee F C. Although he is/was CEO of both ?

I wonder if if there are any impediments.

His previous associations included being a fellow director of several companies with Stewart Ford , he’s the guy who had to pay a record £ 75 million fine to the Financial Services Authorities.

He also had a company , recently wound up called Maroon Blue 2. :greengrin Says it all.

[007]

I’ve been having a look through Companies House site at mr Scot Gardiner ( born Aug 1965 ) .

Firstly he is not listed a a director of Inverness Caledonian Thistle F C . And checking back neither was he listed as a director of Dundee F C. Although he is/was CEO of both ?

I wonder if if there are any impediments.

His previous associations included being a fellow director of several companies with Stewart Ford , he’s the guy who had to pay a record £ 75 million fine to the Financial Services Authorities.

He also had a company , recently wound up called Maroon Blue 2. :greengrin Says it all.

Indeed it does. How much in unpaid creditors was there?

Wonder who got in there 1st to get the name Maroon Blue.

[hibeerealist]

i reckon after the clubs vote today (and no further action) that they will call the league as it is, can't wait to feel even more seethe from the spam farts


Think they have to as the longer we leave it the "rebels" will continue to try and conjure up escape routes and obstacles to finishing the season. They are clearly sore losers and reluctant to accept the democratic outcome of the resolution.

Hertz are on very thin ice and have no doubt considered just what relegation will do to them and it is not good!!

[Future17]

Every question that was put to the SPFL has been answered clearly by them. Sevco claimed to have evidence of wrongdoing and they failed to provide any evidence whatsoever. So what is it that is supposed to be getting investigated and why?

Based on a few of the statements, some clubs seen to be keen on an inquiry to "clear the air" or "draw a line" or similar. I can't see that happening irrespective of an inquiry's findings.

Have we seen a copy of the The Rangers' resolution? I think some clubs think it's a full governance review, but I thought it related solely to recent events.

[BroxburnHibee]

Couldn't 4 Prem clubs start the meeting by saying your vote is a waste of time?

[Crazyhorse]

They are trying to pull off a delicate balance of getting the 2nd place money while denying or at least tainting Celtc’s 10iar. This is probably their last chance to do that. They need the Sevconians to feel enough injustice to blame the Fenian conspiracy rather than their own inadequacy so they’ll buy more season tickets.

This may have been answered. But would clubs have to return payments if the season were to be null and void?

[Aldo]

Couldn't 4 Prem clubs start the meeting by saying your vote is a waste of time?

Na leave the No’s to near the end giving them false hope.


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[Barney McGrew]

Don't know what their beef is but no doubt Celtic fans will now be looking at the background of the Stenhousemuir board for any connections to Rangers.

Their chairman Iain McMenemy, who wrote the statement, is apparently an advisor to the Grand Orange Lodge of Scotland

:faf:

[JimBHibees]

Vote supposed to start 11am

What chance does Scottish football have when you read the morning paper and Gerry Brittan Partick thistle saying even if we get 33% we should still have a independent enquiry wtf .....
Journalists like English saying 8 clubs are unhappy so what If there’s a vote and you lose bloody accept it and let’s move on
Guaranteed we will have the vote today followed by more rubbish and statements.

8 are unhappy which assume means 34 are content. Seems like a clear majority. Tom must live in a tail wagging the dog parallel universe.

[JimBHibees]

absolutely jim, celtic dont need to say anything YET. u can be sure we will here from them if for some reason they dont get the title

Absolutely Davy will say something only when they need to.

[brog]

A clearer case of corruption you will not see. Celtic’s inability to sell out away ends except on St. Pat’s day is legendary.[emoji849]
How were Dundee to cash in on this obvious windfall in a stadium that can’t sell beer?


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You beat me to it!! An absolutely wonderful conspiracy theory for no apparent gain. Oh & by the way, by the way, it's ridiculous that there's never any games on 12th of July!!

[brog]

This may have been answered. But would clubs have to return payments if the season were to be null and void?

Quite possible/probable.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2882042-report-epl-clubs-will-have-to-repay-part-of-tv-money-if-season-not-finished

[Ozyhibby]

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[BroxburnHibee]

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Today's statement league hotting up.

Who's gonna come out with the longest? :greengrin

[Aldo]

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ICT will or are going to be backed into that corner even further imho.

DAFC chairman along with 4/5 other teams in that league not very happy with them.

What is it they say.... those in glass houses.


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[Rumble de Thump]

There's been a massive gulf in quality, dignity and credibility of statements from various clubs. The only statements that come across as sensible, level headed and truthful are from the clubs that voted to end the season. Statements from the clubs that hoped they might somehow benefit from COVID-19 have been utterly appalling.

[Since452]

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Won't be long before Inverness start starving clubs of the Highland pound

[Onion]

This may have been answered. But would clubs have to return payments if the season were to be null and void?

Yes, TV broadcasters, sponsors and fans would all be entitled to a full refunds and not sure how UEFA deal with entrants to the CL/Europa comps. N&V is a non starter, even Sevco appear to understand that now.

[Garymcl]

Just heard on radio Scotland meeting reconvened at 3 we will then know outcome/result :greengrin

[Brunswickbill]

The disclosure of ICT plan substantiates Doncaster’s statement on Sportsound a couple of weeks back. He said something along the lines that while the SPFL resolution was bring drawn up you have to remember that voiding the leagues was being discussed by some parties. One of the reasons for the need for speedy action by SPFL was to avoid the leagues being voided which would have had major financial implications.

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Despite increased backing of the independent investigation, initial estimates see the #SPFLvote (https://twitter.com/hashtag/SPFLvote?src=hash) falling 12-15 votes short of the 32 required. A rousing speech by Lawwell at the #EGM (https://twitter.com/hashtag/EGM?src=hash) is said to have swung a lot of the undecided clubs to back the #SPFL (https://twitter.com/hashtag/SPFL?src=hash) going forward.
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Despite increased backing of the independent investigation, initial estimates see the #SPFLvote (https://twitter.com/hashtag/SPFLvote?src=hash) falling 12-15 votes short of the 32 required. A rousing speech by Lawwell at the #EGM (https://twitter.com/hashtag/EGM?src=hash) is said to have swung a lot of the undecided clubs to back the #SPFL (https://twitter.com/hashtag/SPFL?src=hash) going forward.
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[Jim44]

I don’t know if it’s conjecture or they have a ‘mole’, but the FF muppets are saying 15 to 20 votes in favour of them. They’re looking forward to a statement about legal action in due course. I don’t know if they mean Rangers on their own or a cabal of Hun bedmates.

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Despite increased backing of the independent investigation, initial estimates see the #SPFLvote (https://twitter.com/hashtag/SPFLvote?src=hash) falling 12-15 votes short of the 32 required. A rousing speech by Lawwell at the #EGM (https://twitter.com/hashtag/EGM?src=hash) is said to have swung a lot of the undecided clubs to back the #SPFL (https://twitter.com/hashtag/SPFL?src=hash) going forward.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EX0ZsglX0AERcp3?format=jpg&name=medium (https://twitter.com/spflscouting/status/1260191727526313984/photo/1)





Ha ha, im sure Lawell doing that will calm the ire of the huns, who lets not forget have always been staunch defenders of the principle of fairness, transparency and good governance.

[Peevemor]

I don’t know if it’s conjecture or they have a ‘mole’, but the FF muppets are saying 15 to 20 votes in favour of them. They’re looking forward to a statement about legal action in due course. I don’t know if they mean Rangers on their own or a cabal of Hun bedmates.

They may have 15-20 votes but they need 32.

[JeMeSouviens]

Won't be long before Inverness start starving clubs of the Highland pound

In this case, literally about £1. :greengrin

[nonshinyfinish]

I don’t know if it’s conjecture or they have a ‘mole’, but the FF muppets are saying 15 to 20 votes in favour of them. They’re looking forward to a statement about legal action in due course. I don’t know if they mean Rangers on their own or a cabal of Hun bedmates.

15 to 20 votes in favour fits pretty well with being 12 to 15 votes short, so the source is probably the same. Whether that source is right is another question.

[McSwanky]

They may have 15-20 votes but they need 32.

...and let's not forget there are 42 clubs in the SPFL. By my elementary Maths, it would appear that they didn't even manage to get half of those on side. And some of the 15-20 were probably voting that way because they felt the investigation would clear the air (it wouldn't) rather than actually backing the dossier.

So nae luck, chumps!

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Despite increased backing of the independent investigation, initial estimates see the #SPFLvote (https://twitter.com/hashtag/SPFLvote?src=hash) falling 12-15 votes short of the 32 required. A rousing speech by Lawwell at the #EGM (https://twitter.com/hashtag/EGM?src=hash) is said to have swung a lot of the undecided clubs to back the #SPFL (https://twitter.com/hashtag/SPFL?src=hash) going forward.
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Bet the losers still try to claim a moral victory at about 40%-47% of the vote even though they were virtually guaranteed the votes of most of the disgruntled clubs impacted by relegation or not getting play offs. Can't have won over that many more.

[northgreen24]

Right next statement is they want an instigation as to who leaked the result ...........

[AltheHibby]

Bet the losers still try to claim a moral victory at about 40%-47% of the vote even though they were virtually guaranteed the votes of most of the disgruntled clubs impacted by relegation or not getting play offs. Can't have won over that many more.

There's form in Scotland for claiming victory with 45%!

[JimBHibees]

Ha ha, im sure Lawell doing that will calm the ire of the huns, who lets not forget have always been staunch defenders of the principle of fairness, transparency and good governance.

Yep Peter Lawwell swinging the vote will go down well in Govan. Sounds a wee bit mischief making by whoever edits that twitter account imo.

[007]

Yep Peter Lawwell swinging the vote will go down well in Govan. Sounds a wee bit mischief making by whoever edits that twitter account imo.

It's like Leeann putting the final nail in the reconstruction coffin.

[Bostonhibby]

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[Coco Bryce]

Yep Peter Lawwell swinging the vote will go down well in Govan. Sounds a wee bit mischief making by whoever edits that twitter account imo.

A 'Rousing' speech seemingly.

Brilliant :greengrin

[Bostonhibby]

They may have 15-20 votes but they need 32.They can form the league the task force leader wanted with those numbers, what next for the rest of them if Hearts manage to buy their way to second bottom?

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[Aldo]

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[Coco Bryce]

Daily Record reporting Sevco have lost the vote.

[Stuart93]

Oh I’m excited for the tantrum they’ll throw this afternoon

[Heisenberg]

Either way the noisy few will continue to release statement after statement for the next several weeks until they all get bored and accept their situation.

[Aldo]

Daily Record reporting Sevco have lost the vote.

Right let’s call the league over and done with now please!


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[Bostonhibby]

Daily Record reporting Sevco have lost the vote.They don't win much, maybe they're hanging around with the wrong sort of people.

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[tomf]

Having listened to Neil Doncaster being interviewed on Sunday’s Sportsound I felt he sounded very straightforward, he answered the questions fully and well. The same question re-worded was asked several times and he tried his best to give a reasonable response. I don’t know the man form Adam but he came across as articulate, knowledgeable and pragmatic, which was doing well considering the personal abuse he seems to be taking and the way the pandemic crisis is impacting on our football world. We live in a world where “gaslighting” appears to have become the norm; where abusers portray themselves as victims, where people in authority simply lie and bureaucrats get the blame for merely carrying out the wishes of their political (or otherwise) masters. Hence we end up with Mr Doncaster and his team being pilloried for carrying out the express wishes of the same people who made the rules and are doing the accusing. This is clearly an absurd situation. We have heard endless accusations, many from the media, but with no apparent recognition of the reality. One reporter accused Mr Doncaster of having said nothing about the bullying and the coercion, when, in fact, he had been asked several times and said there wasn’t any. I think the same reporter claimed that ten clubs have complained bitterly (he insisted on holding on to that figure despite being informed that it was only eight) and Mr Doncaster having insisted that he had received no formal complaints. This situation reeks of people being disingenuous. Who does one believe? I’m on the side of fair play, not financial doping; I’m on the side of the rules, not let’s bend them to keep my team in the league; I’m on the side of honesty, not saying there are unanswered questions when someone has clearly answered them. I don’t suppose the SPFL is perfect but I know for sure that there are very few perfect football teams and those in the SPL have a duty of care to their employees, which, I believe Mr Doncaster and his team effectively are.

[Real Emerald]

Right let’s call the league over and done with now please!


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They really need to call it now and get this ended. It’s the only way to move forward.

[007]

Daily Record reporting Sevco have lost the vote.

Budge backs yet another loser. I've lost track of how many in a row it is.

[Barney McGrew]

From Kheridine Itsan at the BBC - Rangers lose!

13 votes in favour

27 against

2 abstentions

[JimBHibees]

A 'Rousing' speech seemingly.

Brilliant :greengrin

Churchillian and definitely not peace in our time :greengrin

[Green Blood]

https://twitter.com/BBCchrismclaug/status/1260211235532017666?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcam p%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

13 for, 27 against and 2 abstentions

[Ozyhibby]

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[JimBHibees]

Right let’s call the league over and done with now please!


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Absolutely sooner the better.

[Peevemor]

https://twitter.com/BBCchrismclaug/status/1260211235532017666?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcam p%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

13 for, 27 against and 2 abstentions

It was close then...

[JimBHibees]

From Kheridine Itsan at the BBC - Rangers lose!

13 votes in favour

27 against

2 abstentions

2 abstentions what is the point. :greengrin

[Aldo]

They really need to call it now and get this ended. It’s the only way to move forward.


Absolutely sooner the better.

Yip it’s dragged on way too long. Let’s get it called and move on.

Wonder who will put out a statement first??


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[Barney McGrew]

The countdown is now on to see which club releases a statement first :greengrin

[Since452]

Popcorn out

[Argylehibby]

67.5% of those voting voted against, pretty decent majority I would say.

[hibbyfraelibby]

2 abstentions what is the point. :greengrin

In votes like this an abstention is effectively a vote against due to the threshold requirements.

[Coco Bryce]

Statement crayons at the ready....:greengrin

[nonshinyfinish]

My money's on ICT, theirs had neither the brobdingnagian length of a Budge missive nor the Sevco habit of hammering the thesaurus for fancier words, so they should be able to rattle one out in no time.

[CraigHibee]

Budge backs yet another loser. I've lost track of how many in a row it is.

she hasn't a clue that's why, bye Ann, hope you enjoy the 1st division :greengrin

[G B Young]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52631918

:na na:

[Barney McGrew]

Breakdown:

Premiership 4 for, 8 against

Championship 1 for, 9 against

First and Second Divisions 8 for, 10 against

[BroxburnHibee]

Breakdown:

Premiership 4 for, 8 against

Championship 1 for, 9 against

First and Second Divisions 8 for, 10 against

Who was the 4th prem team?

[Peevemor]

Breakdown:

Premiership 4 for, 8 against

Championship 1 for, 9 against

First and Second Divisions 8 for, 10 against


Premiership - Huns, merricks, sheep & ?...

[Barney McGrew]

Who was the 4th prem team?

No confirmation as yet.....

[HibeeSince85]

Breakdown:

Premiership 4 for, 8 against

Championship 1 for, 9 against

First and Second Divisions 8 for, 10 against

Rangers, Hearts, Aberdeen and who else from the prem?

[Del Boy]

No confirmation as yet.....

Livingston I think.

Right let’s get the league declared and Hearts relegated then sanction Sevco, Hearts and ICT for bringing the game into disrepute.

[bringbackbenny]

Not even close. what a colossal waste of time

[Tully]

Livingston

[007]

2 abstentions what is the point. :greengrin

Scot Gardiner was on WhatsApp and forgot to vote and Budge was holding the pencil the wrong way up when doing the X.

[Del Boy]

Breakdown:

Premiership 4 for, 8 against

Championship 1 for, 9 against

First and Second Divisions 8 for, 10 against

Chanpionship 9 against!!??? So ICT voted against an inquiry after all that!!!!

[hibbyfraelibby]

Breakdown:

Premiership 4 for, 8 against

Championship 1 for, 9 against

First and Second Divisions 8 for, 10 against

Championship is the most revealing. These were guys who were the focus of the unsubstantiated bullying claims made by Gardiner. Their votes tell you the real story about Gardiner and ICT who are totally isolated. Gardiner has to be charged with bringing the game into disrepute now surely?

[Pete]

Chanpionship 9 against!!??? So ICT voted against an inquiry after all that!!!!

Maybe some bullies made them change their mind.

[jws1875]

Chanpionship 9 against!!??? So ICT voted against an inquiry after all that!!!!

Inverness would have been the championship vote & Partick would have voted as part of League one

[ancient hibee]

Championship is the most revealing. These were guys who were the focus of the unsubstantiated bullying claims made by Gardiner. Their votes tell you the real story about Gardiner and ICT who are totally isolated. Gardiner has to be charged with bringing the game into disrepute now surely?

If Partick voted for, ICT must have voted against.What are they doing?

[hibbyfraelibby]

Maybe some bullies made them change their mind.

ICT will have been only vote for it...Partick voted as a League 1 team

[BroxburnHibee]

If Partick voted for, ICT must have voted against.What are they doing?

Partick have already been relegated

[HoboHarry]

I wonder when or if Sevco will realise that they can no longer just get their own way and alienating everyone and his dog really isn't helping them?

[ancient hibee]

Partick have already been relegated

Right.ICTwill realise how much they're loved.

[mim]

Scot Gardiner was on WhatsApp and forgot to vote and Budge was holding the pencil the wrong way up when doing the X.

:not worth:thumbsup::top marks

[Pete]

Right.ICTwill realise how much they're loved.

Highland Huns

[BroxburnHibee]

It's like Xmas Eve waiting to see what Santa delivers :greengrin

[Barney McGrew]

I’m a bit confused as to how clubs votes were allocated.

If they are as the league sits as per positions now, then either ICT or Partick voted against it. If they’ve assumed relegation/promotions have occurred, then either ICT or Hearts voted against it.

[Peevemor]

I wonder when or if Sevco will realise that they can no longer just get their own way and alienating everyone and his dog really isn't helping them?

Exactly. Along with their pals they've been telling all who'll listen what a shambles and ambarrassment the SPFL is, yet that's the 2nd vote running that the overwhelming majority vote against them.

They should all be warned.

[Blaster]

I’m a bit confused as to how clubs votes were allocated.

If they are as the league sits as per positions now, then either ICT or Partick voted against it. If they’ve assumed relegation/promotions have occurred, then either ICT or Hearts voted against it.

Hearts haven’t been relegated yet

[Joe6-2]

Highland Huns

I wonder if their fans backed this stance?

[cookin_on_gaz]

I’m a bit confused as to how clubs votes were allocated.

If they are as the league sits as per positions now, then either ICT or Partick voted against it. If they’ve assumed relegation/promotions have occurred, then either ICT or Hearts voted against it.Hearts haven't been relegated yet

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[Del Boy]

ICT will have been only vote for it...Partick voted as a League 1 team

Then surely Dundee Utd have been promoted and there would be 13 votes in premiership?

[Bostonhibby]

Hearts haven't been relegated yet

Sent from my AGS-W09 using TapatalkIt's just a question of getting Mrs doctor Budge to sort out a relegation task force.

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[Del Boy]

Hearts haven’t been relegated yet

But United have been promoted, no?

[grunt]

Livingston I think.You should have said "Livingston I presume"!

[hibbyfraelibby]

I’m a bit confused as to how clubs votes were allocated.

If they are as the league sits as per positions now, then either ICT or Partick voted against it. If they’ve assumed relegation/promotions have occurred, then either ICT or Hearts voted against it.

The 3 lower divisions have been called so Partick are already down. The top league has not been called yet so DUFC have not yet been promoted because noone has been relegated (yet)

Pretty obvious ICT are now going to have to self isolate indefinately

[hibbyfraelibby]

But United have been promoted, no?

Not yet...any minute now though😉

[Del Boy]

You should have said "Livingston I presume"!
:top marks

[cookin_on_gaz]

Not yet...any minute now though[emoji6]Dundee United have been promoted. They voted as a prem team in the doomed reconstruction meeting.

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[Coco Bryce]

Hearts must be away now.

The silence from my jambo mates this afternoon clarifies this :greengrin

[Bostonhibby]

Hearts must be away now.

The silence from my jambo mates this afternoon clarifies this :greengrinFamily yam just texted me. Been missing for weeks.

" We'll be back, bigger and better"

It's just great[emoji16]

They're going to need a bigger stand.

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[HoboHarry]

Family yam just texted me. Been missing for weeks.

" We'll be back, bigger and better"

It's just great[emoji16]

They're going to need a bigger stand.

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My mum used to say "You can't have another one until you finish the one you have"......

[Coco Bryce]

My mum used to say "You can't have another one until you finish the one you have"......

:thumbsup:

[Ronniekirk]

Just waiting on the

They think it’s all over

It Is Now Moment


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[Ozyhibby]

http://www.celticfc.net/news/18086

Celtic off the mark in the statement race for tonight.


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[007]

Exactly. Along with their pals they've been telling all who'll listen what a shambles and ambarrassment the SPFL is, yet that's the 2nd vote running that the overwhelming majority vote against them.

They should all be warned.

Yep.

It's good to be on the correct side yet again. Well done Leeann.

[Stanton Spence]

Dundee United have been promoted. They voted as a prem team in the doomed reconstruction meeting.

Sent from my AGS-W09 using TapatalkThat wasn't a vote it was just a meeting to find out what teams were going to vote and Dundee utd were invited

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[EI255]

Boom. Can you feel that Harthill? [emoji16]

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[calumhibee1]

http://www.celticfc.net/news/18086

Celtic off the mark in the statement race for tonight.


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Just rubbing it in :greengrin

[EI255]

http://www.celticfc.net/news/18086

Celtic off the mark in the statement race for tonight.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkI disagree with Celtic there. I have no sympathy for a certain club facing relegation and neither should they.

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[Bostonhibby]

My mum used to say "You can't have another one until you finish the one you have"......Even better one just now.

"At least we're not imposing deferals on our players like Hibs.

Budge will have article 12 and relegation clauses well advanced with the dross"

Where to begin? Needs help so I've asked if those apply to Levein.

Copied his Hibs supporting wife in as he's meant to be working from home.

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[Spike Mandela]

http://www.celticfc.net/news/18086

Celtic off the mark in the statement race for tonight.


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A measured response and one highlightig the true enemy to Scottish football is this darn virus and EVERYBODY’S efforts should really be focusedi on getting us a game to watch next season if possible.

[Rumble de Thump]

Right, what can we vote on next?

[cookin_on_gaz]

That wasn't a vote it was just a meeting to find out what teams were going to vote and Dundee utd were invited

Sent from my G3121 using TapatalkAh well, hopefully it will happen any minute now......

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[weecounty hibby]

A measured response and one highlightig the true enemy to Scottish football is this darn virus and EVERYBODY’S efforts should really be focusedi on getting us a game to watch next season if possible.

The darn virus? Have you been watching Westerns during lockdown, dagnabbit?!

[Bostonhibby]

So when are sevco going to produce the real dossier?

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[Spike Mandela]

The darn virus? Have you been watching Westerns during lockdown, dagnabbit?!

:cb:cb:cb:cb:cb:cb:cb:cb

[jacomo]

I disagree with Celtic there. I have no sympathy for a certain club facing relegation and neither should they.

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Ach it’s just politics. And Celtc playing for the moral high ground, which is one of their favourite things to do.

[Pete]

What do Rangers actually want from all of this?

The season null and voided so Celtic don't win the league?

It's just embarrassing.

[weecounty hibby]

:cb:cb:cb:cb:cb:cb:cb:cb

You've always been a bit of a cowboy!

[Bostonhibby]

What do Rangers actually want from all of this?

The season null and voided so Celtic don't win the league?

It's just embarrassing.I think they were hoping someone would produce an impressive, persuasive dossier for them.

Maybe they should give the WhatsApp guy a go.

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[Coco Bryce]

What do Rangers actually want from all of this?

The season null and voided so Celtic don't win the league?

It's just embarrassing.

That's exactly what they want.

[Fuzzywuzzy]

What do Rangers actually want from all of this?

The season null and voided so Celtic don't win the league?

It's just embarrassing.


They'll always have the * to make them feel better......

[GreenCastle]

Looking forward to the huns, wee huns and highland huns next statements.

Just send Hearts down and award the title to Celtic so we can all move on.

Saying that it’s funny taking the piss as this drags on - definitely kept things interesting last few weeks.

[HoboHarry]

The darn virus? Have you been watching Westerns during lockdown, dagnabbit?!
If you change dagnabbit to y'all you will fit right in here :greengrin

[RossScott1991]

What do Rangers actually want from all of this?

The season null and voided so Celtic don't win the league?

It's just embarrassing.

My guess is the scraping barrel stuff they are currently doing is some desperate attempt to try discover corruption that would cause a point deduction on Celtic for next season

Far fetched but wouldn’t surprise me if that’s their thinking 😂

[we are hibs]

What do Rangers actually want from all of this?

The season null and voided so Celtic don't win the league?

It's just embarrassing.

They want control over Scottish football like they believe Celtic currently have. They want their "own people" in positions of power within Scottish football.

[Coco Bryce]

They want control over Scottish football like they believe Celtic currently have. They want their "own people" in positions of power within Scottish football.

Sevco are nothing in Scottish football now. Glasgow Rangers had a bit clout but not this new mob :greengrin

[hibbyfraelibby]

Dundee United have been promoted. They voted as a prem team in the doomed reconstruction meeting.

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There was no vote at the Prem meeting clubs just gave their position and when it became apparent there was insufficient support for the non-existant agreed proposal from the 15 team working party it was abandoned.

[hibbyfraelibby]

Family yam just texted me. Been missing for weeks.

" We'll be back, bigger and better"

It's just great[emoji16]

They're going to need a bigger stand.

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No...they are going to need a better stand😉

[weecounty hibby]

It all comes back to having been programmed to believe that they are the people. They don't like the fact that actually they are no longer the club of the establishment and can't control the governing body and other clubs like they used to

[Pete]

They'll always have the * to make them feel better......

Never mind anything next to celtics title, they should be refered to as Rangers* from now on.

[Phil MaGlass]

Never mind anything next to celtics title, they should be refered to as Rangers* from now on.

This,:thumbsup:

[CropleyWasGod]

Never mind anything next to celtics title, they should be refered to as Rangers* from now on.

Don't you be bringing Asterix into this.

The gall of it....

[Since452]

Sevco are nothing in Scottish football now. Glasgow Rangers had a bit clout but not this new mob :greengrin

Bang on. They have as much clout as Inverness Caledonian Thistle and their daft fans can't handle it

[007]

Right, what can we vote on next?

Rangers and their cabal's punishment.

[HoboHarry]

Don't you be bringing Asterix into this.

The gall of it....
Indeed, this about stiffing Hearts and Sevco, not the Celtic nation......

[delbert]

Never mind anything next to celtics title, they should be refered to as Rangers* from now on.

I think Celtc should be quite happy to have a title with an asterisk beside it, with the asterisk denoting *the one which caused Sevco and the ****bos to implode !

[Iain G]

Tom English is still trying to put a spin on this in favour of his chums, his entrenched view and his ongoing spin doctor role for the losers....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52631918

'Highly improbable that the story ends here'

"And so the spin begins. Twenty-seven votes against having an independent inquiry and 13 votes for; 64% of clubs against the investigation into the SPFL's corporate governance and 31% went in favour.

If you're Neil Doncaster and the SPFL board you're saying that enough clubs have spoken and this should be the end of the most divisive chapter in the history of the organisation. If you're on the other side you're pointing out that one third of the top flight want this examination to take place and that 40% of the First and Second Division clubs combined gave their backing to the inquiry.

Save for Inverness, the Championship was a wipeout for those who were calling for a probe into what went on or didn't go on. The numbers are there to be interpreted and fought over - and they will be. Nothing will change there. We now know the result but, in a sense, we don't know the endgame because it's highly improbable that the story ends here regardless of the SPFL board wanting that to be the case.

Rangers have vowed to take this further. We await their next move. And their next statement. And the ones from different places that come in its wake. Seconds out. Round two."

[CropleyWasGod]

Indeed, this about stiffing Hearts and Sevco, not the Celtic nation......

Rule Briton-ya.:flag:

[Ronniekirk]

They want control over Scottish football like they believe Celtic currently have. They want their "own people" in positions of power within Scottish football.

And they won’t stop till they achieve this
The Lying King made that clear in one if his first statements when he took over
After Five years in charge he wanted to be back winning things , back in Champions League and back having an influence on all the committee s within the SPFL or words to that effect


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[Green Blood]

Tom English is still trying to put a spin on this in favour of his chums, his entrenched view and his ongoing spin doctor role for the losers....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52631918

'Highly improbable that the story ends here'

"And so the spin begins. Twenty-seven votes against having an independent inquiry and 13 votes for; 64% of clubs against the investigation into the SPFL's corporate governance and 31% went in favour.

If you're Neil Doncaster and the SPFL board you're saying that enough clubs have spoken and this should be the end of the most divisive chapter in the history of the organisation. If you're on the other side you're pointing out that one third of the top flight want this examination to take place and that 40% of the First and Second Division clubs combined gave their backing to the inquiry.

Save for Inverness, the Championship was a wipeout for those who were calling for a probe into what went on or didn't go on. The numbers are there to be interpreted and fought over - and they will be. Nothing will change there. We now know the result but, in a sense, we don't know the endgame because it's highly improbable that the story ends here regardless of the SPFL board wanting that to be the case.

Rangers have vowed to take this further. We await their next move. And their next statement. And the ones from different places that come in its wake. Seconds out. Round two."

Man is unprofessional and taking sides, I expect his bank statement to show various deposits from a Mr Ben E Factor!

[SideBurns]

Don't you be bringing Asterix into this.

The gall of it....

The chief vitalstatistix will say Celtic won the league, and that's all they'll be bothered about.

[HoboHarry]

Rule Briton-ya.:flag:
Glad the puns are back, I was Roman around doing nothing.....

[Sioux]

The last issue that needs clarified is who will be crowned champions of the Statement League. Final applications forthcoming. Can't wait.

[Peevemor]

Tom English is still trying to put a spin on this in favour of his chums, his entrenched view and his ongoing spin doctor role for the losers....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52631918

'Highly improbable that the story ends here'

"And so the spin begins. Twenty-seven votes against having an independent inquiry and 13 votes for; 64% of clubs against the investigation into the SPFL's corporate governance and 31% went in favour.

If you're Neil Doncaster and the SPFL board you're saying that enough clubs have spoken and this should be the end of the most divisive chapter in the history of the organisation. If you're on the other side you're pointing out that one third of the top flight want this examination to take place and that 40% of the First and Second Division clubs combined gave their backing to the inquiry.

Save for Inverness, the Championship was a wipeout for those who were calling for a probe into what went on or didn't go on. The numbers are there to be interpreted and fought over - and they will be. Nothing will change there. We now know the result but, in a sense, we don't know the endgame because it's highly improbable that the story ends here regardless of the SPFL board wanting that to be the case.

Rangers have vowed to take this further. We await their next move. And their next statement. And the ones from different places that come in its wake. Seconds out. Round two."

What a slavering dick!

He ignores the likes of Aberdeen who said that a vote for the enquiry was an effort to clear the air, not a suggestion that there was wrongdoing.

That's 2 votes in a row heavily in favour of the SPFL board - time to report the obvious instead of stirring it for your mates fannybaws!

[calumhibee1]

Joking aside, this must now be the end and everyone needs to move on. We have voted on ending the season, reconstruction is not happening as the clubs have spoken and now this vote as ended investigation hopes. Whatever you think there is nothing left.

The championship vote was the most interesting. Only one vote for which we presume is ICT. Even though they said others felt bullied none voted for an investigation. Strange that. That means Partick voted against which I don’t understand.

It was pretty conclusive and we now need to move on. Legal routes will delay things further and cause more issues. These statements have been disgraceful from ICT, Rangers etc when there appears to be no proof whatsoever. Making voting intentions public is only intended to influence others and I’d like to see ICT and Rangers held to account over their behaviour.

[McSwanky]

Wouldn't it be nice if Rangers came out with a statement now accepting that the democratic vote was clear and they will pipe down and take it on the chin.

Two chances of that happening!

[JeMeSouviens]

Joking aside, this must now be the end and everyone needs to move on. We have voted on ending the season, reconstruction is not happening as the clubs have spoken and now this vote as ended investigation hopes. Whatever you think there is nothing left.

The championship vote was the most interesting. Only one vote for which we presume is ICT. Even though they said others felt bullied none voted for an investigation. Strange that. That means Partick voted against which I don’t understand.

It was pretty conclusive and we now need to move on. Legal routes will delay things further and cause more issues. These statements have been disgraceful from ICT, Rangers etc when there appears to be no proof whatsoever. Making voting intentions public is only intended to influence others and I’d like to see ICT and Rangers held to account over their behaviour.

Partick counted as a League 1 club seemingly as the lower divisions have been called but DUFC still championship until the relegated premier club is, ahem, finalised. :wink:

[delbert]

Joking aside, this must now be the end and everyone needs to move on. We have voted on ending the season, reconstruction is not happening as the clubs have spoken and now this vote as ended investigation hopes. Whatever you think there is nothing left.

The championship vote was the most interesting. Only one vote for which we presume is ICT. Even though they said others felt bullied none voted for an investigation. Strange that. That means Partick voted against which I don’t understand.

It was pretty conclusive and we now need to move on. Legal routes will delay things further and cause more issues. These statements have been disgraceful from ICT, Rangers etc when there appears to be no proof whatsoever. Making voting intentions public is only intended to influence others and I’d like to see ICT and Rangers held to account over their behaviour.

Partick Thistle have already been relegated and therefore cast their vote as a first division team

[calumhibee1]

Partick counted as a League 1 club seemingly as the lower divisions have been called but DUFC still championship until the relegated premier club is, ahem, finalised. :wink:

So there were 9 teams voting in championship? Again that makes no sense. It would need to be the same for each division. Would mean 10 votes in league 1 and 11 in league 2?

[Rumble de Thump]

Hopefully we'll have some tasty defamation lawsuits to look forward to.

[HFC93]

Can't be the only one who is finding this whole debacle utterly tedious.

[CropleyWasGod]

So there were 9 teams voting in championship? Again that makes no sense. It would need to be the same for each division. Would mean 10 votes in league 1 and 11 in league 2?

United count as Championship. Thistle don't. Raith do.

There's your 10 .

Cove Rangers are League 1, Stranraer League 2. There's your 10 :)

[calumhibee1]

United count as Championship. Thistle don't. Raith do.

There's your 10 .

Cove Rangers are League 1, Stranraer League 2. There's your 10 :)

Ah fair enough.

[JohnMcM]

Can't be the only one who is finding this whole debacle utterly tedious.

Serves you right for being greedy. Everyone knows you can't eat a whole debacle in one sitting.:greengrin

[EuanH78]

Wouldn't it be nice if Rangers came out with a statement now accepting that the democratic vote was clear and they will pipe down and take it on the chin.

Two chances of that happening!In say, a sort of surrender? [emoji6]

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[Keith_M]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0EyZDzfm3E

[JeMeSouviens]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0EyZDzfm3E

:greengrin

Can we have a look at the speedboat they could've won?

[greenpaper55]

Tom English is still trying to put a spin on this in favour of his chums, his entrenched view and his ongoing spin doctor role for the losers....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52631918

'Highly improbable that the story ends here'

"And so the spin begins. Twenty-seven votes against having an independent inquiry and 13 votes for; 64% of clubs against the investigation into the SPFL's corporate governance and 31% went in favour.

If you're Neil Doncaster and the SPFL board you're saying that enough clubs have spoken and this should be the end of the most divisive chapter in the history of the organisation. If you're on the other side you're pointing out that one third of the top flight want this examination to take place and that 40% of the First and Second Division clubs combined gave their backing to the inquiry.

Save for Inverness, the Championship was a wipeout for those who were calling for a probe into what went on or didn't go on. The numbers are there to be interpreted and fought over - and they will be. Nothing will change there. We now know the result but, in a sense, we don't know the endgame because it's highly improbable that the story ends here regardless of the SPFL board wanting that to be the case.

Rangers have vowed to take this further. We await their next move. And their next statement. And the ones from different places that come in its wake. Seconds out. Round two."

No doubt he will on the BBC again tonight spouting his garbage, the best thing you can do is not listen as it's just clickbate for the BBC. Email them and tell them you are not tuning in because of this clown.

[Jim44]

In say, a sort of surrender? [emoji6]

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They can’t surrender now and lose face. They’ll have to go to court and they have to win or they’re tits-up financially. Big decision for the bus driver to make.

[Keith_M]

http://www.celticfc.net/news/18086

Celtic off the mark in the statement race for tonight.


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I'm no Celtc Fan but they've at least given a dignified response.

[Keith_M]

:greengrin

Can we have a look at the speedboat they could've won?


Certainly....

(you might want to zoom in and check the name ;-) )



https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b8/48/88/b84888d0df1133a40327e388a05ba75e.jpg

[Iain G]

I think Celtc should be quite happy to have a title with an asterisk beside it, with the asterisk denoting *the one which caused Sevco and the ****bos to implode !

Never mind the asterisk, they will build an obelisk to mark the winning of the league :agree:

[Rumble de Thump]

Tin hat on. Am I the only one who feels Sevco have been harshly treated? They've spent loads of money and haven't been given a major trophy, and that's simply down to other clubs' self interest.

[Keith_M]

Tin hat on. Am I the only one who feels Sevco have been harshly treated? They've spent loads of money and haven't been given a major trophy, and that's simply down to other clubs' self interest.


Yep, by Hearts' logic, they should definitely be treated differently.

Maybe the other clubs could have a whip-round and buy them a wee trophy. How about The Tinpot Cup.

[JeMeSouviens]

Certainly....

(you might want to zoom in and check the name ;-) )



https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b8/48/88/b84888d0df1133a40327e388a05ba75e.jpg

Not so sure about "temporary" tbh. :greengrin

[AltheHibby]

Glad the puns are back, I was Roman around doing nothing.....

Don't set this off as another pun thread. The snowflakes wont like it. We're not all menhir.

[Potty78]

Quick question,seems the championship vote was 9-1, so did partick vote no? Sorry if asked already.

[660]

Quick question,seems the championship vote was 9-1, so did partick vote no? Sorry if asked already.

They are a league 1 club

[Sioux]

THe vote was rigged:

"The 5 chairmen on the SPFL were always going to vote "no" so the 27-13 isn't a true reflection on things - without those clowns the result is 22-13 bringing up the average of unhappy clubs quite considerably"

[McSwanky]

Tin hat on. Am I the only one who feels Sevco have been harshly treated? They've spent loads of money and haven't been given a major trophy, and that's simply down to other clubs' self interest.Couldn't agree more. Money talks, and The Rangers FC Limited have been splashing the cash more than most. The fact that they have yet to win a major top level trophy in their existence beggars belief, their fellow clubs should all be ashamed of themselves for allowing this situation to persist for so long.

Or something.

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[James Stephen]

THe vote was rigged:

"The 5 chairmen on the SPFL were always going to vote "no" so the 27-13 isn't a true reflection on things - without those clowns the result is 22-13 bringing up the average of unhappy clubs quite considerably"

Sound logic.

If you exclude some of the contented clubs, it does indeed bring up the percentage of malcontents.

Even better, if you excluded all of them, you could win the vote!

[Potty78]

They are a league 1 club

United are an spl club but the vote was 8-4? Hearts would vote as an spl club no?

[RyeSloan]

The Tom English spin is pathetic....”if you are on the other side a third of the premiership voted for an inquiry’

Well Tom actually two thirds didn’t vote for an inquiry so if you are on the other side you should be accepting the fact that you just got whacked by a huge majority and therefore you lose!

Basically no division or any spin on the numbers shows any majority for an inquiry at all!

Surely now it’s time to move on, call the top league and get on with organising how on Earth we can start next season in a half timely manner....

[660]

United are an spl club but the vote was 8-4? Hearts would vote as an spl club no?

The SPFL hasn’t been called so promotion/relegation doesn’t apply yet.

[Bostonhibby]

THe vote was rigged:

"The 5 chairmen on the SPFL were always going to vote "no" so the 27-13 isn't a true reflection on things - without those clowns the result is 22-13 bringing up the average of unhappy clubs quite considerably"One man, or woman's rigged, is another's democracy in action

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[Potty78]

The SPFL hasn’t been called so promotion/relegation doesn’t apply yet.

Cheers👍

[Pete]

FFS just get the statements out already.

Rangers, ICT and Mrs Budges are the ones I'm looking forward to seeing.

[04Sauzee]

THe vote was rigged:

"The 5 chairmen on the SPFL were always going to vote "no" so the 27-13 isn't a true reflection on things - without those clowns the result is 22-13 bringing up the average of unhappy clubs quite considerably"

Is this another one of these if it wasn't for the goalposts moment?

[Peevemor]

THe vote was rigged:

"The 5 chairmen on the SPFL were always going to vote "no" so the 27-13 isn't a true reflection on things - without those clowns the result is 22-13 bringing up the average of unhappy clubs quite considerably"Is this people owing votes to themselves?

[660]

Is this another one of these if it wasn't for the goalposts moment?

I seen another post which said 13 clubs voted yes so 10 clubs were persuaded to move so the SPFL didn’t persuade a single club to move with their statements. Surely this logic has to be predicated on every club starting at the position of “No” so by definition no club could have been persuaded to no. My head hurts.

[hibbyfraelibby]

The Tom English spin is pathetic....”if you are on the other side a third of the premiership voted for an inquiry’

Well Tom actually two thirds didn’t vote for an inquiry so if you are on the other side you should be accepting the fact that you just got whacked by a huge majority and therefore you lose!

Basically no division or any spin on the numbers shows any majority for an inquiry at all!

Surely now it’s time to move on, call the top league and get on with organising how on Earth we can start next season in a half timely manner....

Yeah and Jeremy Corbyn won the last election. Give it a rest English. You backed the losing side repeatedly and on an average points per paragraph basis you are the worst journalist on the radio and subsequently you are now demoted/expeled/ejected/relegated/recalibrated to radio Tuechter

[Aldo]

Yeah and Jeremy Corbyn won the last election. Give it a rest English. You backed the losing side repeatedly and on an average points per paragraph basis you are the worst journalist on the radio and subsequently you are now demoted/expeled/ejected/relegated/recalibrated to radio Tuechter

TBH I really don’t give a ***** what English thinks, writes or says. The guys a plum.


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[calumhibee1]

Rangers statement

WE note the result of the vote taken at this morning’s General Meeting and wish to thank all clubs for listening to our concerns, giving up their time to read our report and for voting.

We also wish to place on record our thanks to our fellow requisitioners, who showed courage and acted with dignity throughout. Furthermore, to those clubs who voted in favour of the resolution, we appreciate your support and recognise your desire for increased accountability at the top of our national sport.

Today’s vote has erased the false narrative of this issue simply being a conflict between one club and the SPFL. All we sought was urgently required scrutiny, respect for all member clubs, fairness and transparency.

Significantly, support for the Hearts, Stranraer and Rangers requisition spanned the four professional divisions. Member clubs, recognising the need for Scottish football to improve its governance and professionalism, have moved beyond sporting rivalries and it would be unwise to regard this result as any kind of endorsement of the SPFL executive.

A light has been shone on the SPFL’s governance and regardless of the attempts to debunk our report, there is widespread acknowledgment that it highlighted serious issues and failings which remain to be addressed.

A management culture which not only fears accountability and scrutiny, but which actively campaigns against it, is unhealthy and breeds continued mistrust. This culture, so deeply embedded, must be addressed if Scottish football is to flourish.

It is clear that many members have lost confidence in the SPFL leadership and the need for change will not diminish.

The status quo cannot hold.

[Pete]

rangers statement

we note the result of the vote taken at this morning’s general meeting and wish to thank all clubs for listening to our concerns, giving up their time to read our report and for voting.

We also wish to place on record our thanks to our fellow requisitioners, who showed courage and acted with dignity throughout. Furthermore, to those clubs who voted in favour of the resolution, we appreciate your support and recognise your desire for increased accountability at the top of our national sport.

Today’s vote has erased the false narrative of this issue simply being a conflict between one club and the spfl. All we sought was urgently required scrutiny, respect for all member clubs, fairness and transparency.

Significantly, support for the hearts, stranraer and rangers requisition spanned the four professional divisions. Member clubs, recognising the need for scottish football to improve its governance and professionalism, have moved beyond sporting rivalries and it would be unwise to regard this result as any kind of endorsement of the spfl executive.

A light has been shone on the spfl’s governance and regardless of the attempts to debunk our report, there is widespread acknowledgment that it highlighted serious issues and failings which remain to be addressed.

A management culture which not only fears accountability and scrutiny, but which actively campaigns against it, is unhealthy and breeds continued mistrust. This culture, so deeply embedded, must be addressed if scottish football is to flourish.

It is clear that many members have lost confidence in the spfl leadership and the need for change will not diminish.

The status quo cannot hold.

yaaaas

Edit: actually, I expected more. Not bitter enough!

[BroxburnHibee]

Rangers statement

WE note the result of the vote taken at this morning’s General Meeting and wish to thank all clubs for listening to our concerns, giving up their time to read our report and for voting.

We also wish to place on record our thanks to our fellow requisitioners, who showed courage and acted with dignity throughout. Furthermore, to those clubs who voted in favour of the resolution, we appreciate your support and recognise your desire for increased accountability at the top of our national sport.

Today’s vote has erased the false narrative of this issue simply being a conflict between one club and the SPFL. All we sought was urgently required scrutiny, respect for all member clubs, fairness and transparency.

Significantly, support for the Hearts, Stranraer and Rangers requisition spanned the four professional divisions. Member clubs, recognising the need for Scottish football to improve its governance and professionalism, have moved beyond sporting rivalries and it would be unwise to regard this result as any kind of endorsement of the SPFL executive.

A light has been shone on the SPFL’s governance and regardless of the attempts to debunk our report, there is widespread acknowledgment that it highlighted serious issues and failings which remain to be addressed.

A management culture which not only fears accountability and scrutiny, but which actively campaigns against it, is unhealthy and breeds continued mistrust. This culture, so deeply embedded, must be addressed if Scottish football is to flourish.

It is clear that many members have lost confidence in the SPFL leadership and the need for change will not diminish.

The status quo cannot hold.

As expected. Load of tosh.

[Keith_M]

Not so sure about "temporary" tbh. :greengrin


Very true

:greengrin

[Stuart93]

The rangers statement completely ignoring the fact that the majority of clubs have voted not to have an independent investigation

[Ozyhibby]

https://www.motherwellfc.co.uk/2020/05/12/club-votes-against-spfl-egm-resolution/


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[McSwanky]

Surprise surprise. Sevco taking the fact that they lost the vote by a country mile as some sort of sign to the rest of Scottish Football that they were in the right all along.

Inevitable I suppose.

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[James Stephen]

yaaaas

Edit: actually, I expected more. Not bitter enough!

That sounds to me like the end of the matter for them.

Given Stranraer have just said no legal action, and Partick had previously, it seems like this was the death rattle of the rebellion.

[PolmontHibby]

Bit of a weak statement from them - not the rousing call to arms and legal action I expect a lot of their followers wanted to hear.
Almost a bit of a surrender if that is the most they shall come up with.

[Rumble de Thump]

The rangers statement completely ignoring the fact that the majority of clubs have voted not to have an independent investigation

Also ignoring the fact that their 'dossier' had no credibility and didn't come anywhere close to highlighting "serious issues and failings" with the SPFL.

[Hibeesmad]

https://www.motherwellfc.co.uk/2020/05/12/club-votes-against-spfl-egm-resolution/


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Boycott them!!

[Bostonhibby]

Rangers statement

WE note the result of the vote taken at this morning’s General Meeting and wish to thank all clubs for listening to our concerns, giving up their time to read our report and for voting.

We also wish to place on record our thanks to our fellow requisitioners, who showed courage and acted with dignity throughout. Furthermore, to those clubs who voted in favour of the resolution, we appreciate your support and recognise your desire for increased accountability at the top of our national sport.

Today’s vote has erased the false narrative of this issue simply being a conflict between one club and the SPFL. All we sought was urgently required scrutiny, respect for all member clubs, fairness and transparency.

Significantly, support for the Hearts, Stranraer and Rangers requisition spanned the four professional divisions. Member clubs, recognising the need for Scottish football to improve its governance and professionalism, have moved beyond sporting rivalries and it would be unwise to regard this result as any kind of endorsement of the SPFL executive.

A light has been shone on the SPFL’s governance and regardless of the attempts to debunk our report, there is widespread acknowledgment that it highlighted serious issues and failings which remain to be addressed.

A management culture which not only fears accountability and scrutiny, but which actively campaigns against it, is unhealthy and breeds continued mistrust. This culture, so deeply embedded, must be addressed if Scottish football is to flourish.

It is clear that many members have lost confidence in the SPFL leadership and the need for change will not diminish.

The status quo cannot hold.So the facts are essentially ignored, surely we are talking about a healthy democracy here, huge majority especially in the Championship.

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[007]

Rangers statement

WE note the result of the vote taken at this morning’s General Meeting and wish to thank all clubs for listening to our concerns, giving up their time to read our report and for voting.

We also wish to place on record our thanks to our fellow requisitioners, who showed courage and acted with dignity throughout. Furthermore, to those clubs who voted in favour of the resolution, we appreciate your support and recognise your desire for increased accountability at the top of our national sport.

Today’s vote has erased the false narrative of this issue simply being a conflict between one club and the SPFL. All we sought was urgently required scrutiny, respect for all member clubs, fairness and transparency.

Significantly, support for the Hearts, Stranraer and Rangers requisition spanned the four professional divisions. Member clubs, recognising the need for Scottish football to improve its governance and professionalism, have moved beyond sporting rivalries and it would be unwise to regard this result as any kind of endorsement of the SPFL executive.

A light has been shone on the SPFL’s governance and regardless of the attempts to debunk our report, there is widespread acknowledgment that it highlighted serious issues and failings which remain to be addressed.

A management culture which not only fears accountability and scrutiny, but which actively campaigns against it, is unhealthy and breeds continued mistrust. This culture, so deeply embedded, must be addressed if Scottish football is to flourish.

It is clear that many members have lost confidence in the SPFL leadership and the need for change will not diminish.

The status quo cannot hold.

Now that this matter is finished and they've suddenly become all virtuous, maybe they could turn their hand to eradicating sectarianism.

[660]

We must be at a non-league level in the statement league. Hope we don’t screw it up with some daft long winded statement like all these other self important clowns.

[hibbyfraelibby]

Rangers statement

WE note the result of the vote taken at this morning’s General Meeting and wish to thank all clubs for listening to our concerns, giving up their time to read our report and for voting.

We also wish to place on record our thanks to our fellow requisitioners, who showed courage and acted with dignity throughout. Furthermore, to those clubs who voted in favour of the resolution, we appreciate your support and recognise your desire for increased accountability at the top of our national sport.

Today’s vote has erased the false narrative of this issue simply being a conflict between one club and the SPFL. All we sought was urgently required scrutiny, respect for all member clubs, fairness and transparency.

Significantly, support for the Hearts, Stranraer and Rangers requisition spanned the four professional divisions. Member clubs, recognising the need for Scottish football to improve its governance and professionalism, have moved beyond sporting rivalries and it would be unwise to regard this result as any kind of endorsement of the SPFL executive.

A light has been shone on the SPFL’s governance and regardless of the attempts to debunk our report, there is widespread acknowledgment that it highlighted serious issues and failings which remain to be addressed.

A management culture which not only fears accountability and scrutiny, but which actively campaigns against it, is unhealthy and breeds continued mistrust. This culture, so deeply embedded, must be addressed if Scottish football is to flourish.

It is clear that many members have lost confidence in the SPFL leadership and the need for change will not diminish.

The status quo cannot hold.

That's not quite the bile filled crayoned statement I would have expected.

Size of the support for the SPFL Board was probably bigger than they anticipated.

[Since452]

We must be at a non-league level in the statement league. Hope we don’t screw it up with some daft long winded statement like all these other self important clowns.

I'd be surprised if we say anything to be honest

[truehibernian]

Also ignoring the fact that their 'dossier' had no credibility and didn't come anywhere close to highlighting "serious issues and failings" with the SPFL.

Whilst also, in marvellous irony, missing out that they are the one club who created this 'narrative', not the other way about :greengrin

[Keith_M]

That's not quite the bile filled crayoned statement I would have expected.

Size of the support for the SPFL Board was probably bigger than they anticipated.


Dunno, this part doesn't really come over to me as taking their defeat with dignity



A light has been shone on the SPFL’s governance and regardless of the attempts to debunk our report, there is widespread acknowledgment that it highlighted serious issues and failings which remain to be addressed.

A management culture which not only fears accountability and scrutiny, but which actively campaigns against it, is unhealthy and breeds continued mistrust. This culture, so deeply embedded, must be addressed if Scottish football is to flourish.

It is clear that many members have lost confidence in the SPFL leadership and the need for change will not diminish.

The status quo cannot hold.

[Topographic Hibby]

Bit of a weak statement from them - not the rousing call to arms and legal action I expect a lot of their followers wanted to hear.
Almost a bit of a surrender if that is the most they shall come up with.Its essentially job done for them. They have tarnished Celtic's title and will forever point out that they never achieved 10IAR by saying they never won this season's title. They have thrown enough poo around/towards the SPFL and its staff (eg Neil-D) in the process. Simply the casualties in their battle.

So their statement now is weak as they have backed down (lets call it "surrender" since they like throwing that word around). No further action or legal bills for them. Hearts relegated.

Oh dear, how sad, never mind...

[hibbyfraelibby]

Dunno, this part doesn't really come over to me as taking their defeat with dignity

I didn't say it was dignified, just not bile filled.

That in comparison to some of their statements smacks of resignation in the face of overwhelming odds.

A bit like Germany in November 1918 they have achieved an Armistace...their Versailles will follow shortly

[Bostonhibby]

Its essentially job done for them. They have tarnished Celtic's title and will forever point out that they never achieved 10IAR by saying they never won this season's title. They have thrown enough poo around/towards the SPFL and its staff (eg Neil-D) in the process. Simply the casualties in their battle.

So their statement now is weak as they have backed down (lets call it "surrender" since they like throwing that word around). No further action or legal bills for them. Hearts relegated.

Oh dear, how sad, never mind...They can't afford the legal costs, especially if they lose.

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[nonshinyfinish]

Dunno, this part doesn't really come over to me as taking their defeat with dignity

It doesn't, but the statement as a whole sounds to me like them backing away from the fight while getting a final few insults in.

I reckon they see it as job done at this point, they've raised enough of a stink that their fans can forever say the title is tainted, and they've dragged it out long enough that they're not seen as 'surrendering' the title.

[GreenCastle]

Its essentially job done for them. They have tarnished Celtic's title and will forever point out that they never achieved 10IAR by saying they never won this season's title. They have thrown enough poo around/towards the SPFL and its staff (eg Neil-D) in the process. Simply the casualties in their battle.

So their statement now is weak as they have backed down (lets call it "surrender" since they like throwing that word around). No further action or legal bills for them. Hearts relegated.

Oh dear, how sad, never mind...

That was their plan all along - make it as difficult and frustrating for Celtic to be declared winners.

They just happened to persuade a few other clubs in trouble to support them.

We have had previous votes with the SPFL and no fallout like this before / clubs need to accept it.

I will be disappointed if clubs aren’t punished for bringing the game into disrepute as some of the accusations have been very personal and damaging to the brand.

[007]

Its essentially job done for them. They have tarnished Celtic's title and will forever point out that they never achieved 10IAR by saying they never won this season's title. They have thrown enough poo around/towards the SPFL and its staff (eg Neil-D) in the process. Simply the casualties in their battle.

So their statement now is weak as they have backed down (lets call it "surrender" since they like throwing that word around). No further action or legal bills for them. Hearts relegated.

Oh dear, how sad, never mind...

You're right though I don't they've done very good job on the tarnishing an I don't think Celtic will be too bothered, they've got plenty of ammunition to hit them back with, such as why don't you just concentrate on winning your 1st trophy. Or if they're feeling charitable, they'll just refer to the EBT years which should be asterisk'd.

[hibeerealist]

Its essentially job done for them. They have tarnished Celtic's title and will forever point out that they never achieved 10IAR by saying they never won this season's title. They have thrown enough poo around/towards the SPFL and its staff (eg Neil-D) in the process. Simply the casualties in their battle.

So their statement now is weak as they have backed down (lets call it "surrender" since they like throwing that word around). No further action or legal bills for them. Hearts relegated.

Oh dear, how sad, never mind...

Agree TH, they are slipping out the back door with barely a whimper. This whole charade was all about tarnishing the title Celtic will receive taking them to 9IAR. As far as Hertz are concerned, they are on their own and talking about break away leagues, solidarity payments of $3-5 million (FFS) and bringing down the SPFL in a huge legal action.

However, we know how this ends.....back door and whimper? Yes you got it.

[GreenCastle]

I don't think Celtic will be too bothered, they've got plenty of ammunition to hit them back with, such as why don't you just concentrate on winning your 1st trophy. Or if they're feeling charitable, they'll just refer to the EBT years which should be asterisk'd.

Agreed - Celtic don’t care. They are finding all this hilarious.

They will get the trophy - they will get to raise the flag - they will sell merchandise and publish it all over social media they won 9 in a row.

If Celtic win it next year it will be 10.

If Rangers stop it - it will be we stopped the 10.

[grunt]

Rangers statement ... The status quo cannot hold.Bit of a dig at Hearts there?

[Chorley Hibee]

Its essentially job done for them. They have tarnished Celtic's title and will forever point out that they never achieved 10IAR by saying they never won this season's title. They have thrown enough poo around/towards the SPFL and its staff (eg Neil-D) in the process. Simply the casualties in their battle.

So their statement now is weak as they have backed down (lets call it "surrender" since they like throwing that word around). No further action or legal bills for them. Hearts relegated.

Oh dear, how sad, never mind...

Correct, it was never about winning the fight, it was about building a narrative the rabid element of their support could get behind.

It's job done in that respect.

[GreenCastle]

If Rangers claim this isn’t about the title - it’s about other issues (Bullying etc) - just award Celtic the title now - I’m sure they won’t mind..

[04Sauzee]

Wow just wow, things aren't going well at Ibrox at all

[Joe6-2]

Wow just wow, things aren't going well at Ibrox at all

😂

[Peevemor]

https://www.motherwellfc.co.uk/2020/05/12/club-votes-against-spfl-egm-resolution/


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[Garymcl]

Who were the two teams that abstained (cowards)?

[Aldo]

So now this nonsense is all over I hope the SPFL are looking at charges against Newco, Hearts, ICT and Stranraer for bringing the game into disrepute.


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[G B Young]

What a slavering dick!

He ignores the likes of Aberdeen who said that a vote for the enquiry was an effort to clear the air, not a suggestion that there was wrongdoing.

That's 2 votes in a row heavily in favour of the SPFL board - time to report the obvious instead of stirring it for your mates fannybaws!

I've suggested it before and now I'm pretty much convinced that the reason Tom English is attempting to extract maximum mileage out of this is because he's realised during lockdown that the role of a sports pundit isn't really all that significant and nobody actually misses them. If it wasn't for Sevco and the yams desperately trying flog this dead horse of a story he wouldn't have anything to write about - or justify what is probably a pretty decent salary with the Beeb.

[Green Badger]

I've suggested it before and now I'm pretty much convinced that the reason Tom English is attempting to extract maximum mileage out of this is because he's realised during lockdown that the role of a sports pundit isn't really all that significant and nobody actually misses them. If it wasn't for Sevco and the yams desperately trying flog this dead horse of a story he wouldn't have anything to write about - or justify what is probably a pretty decent salary with the Beeb.

I hadn’t really thought of that, however it might work against him. If the bbc are looking to reduce costs post covid then he’s probably put himself in their sights with all the crap he’s come out with recently.

[Ronniekirk]

So now this nonsense is all over I hope the SPFL are looking at charges against Newco, Hearts, ICT and Stranraer for bringing the game into disrepute.


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Doubt it Aldo
We will all be told for the Greater Good of the Game that once The Rangers get this out Their system we need to forgive them
But The Rangers will continue with thier concerted campaign for Power
The fact there are no games is causing a vacuum that they want to exploit to the Maximum
Hearts on the other hand are Just A Basket Case and a Desparate laughing stock


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[snedzuk]

Bit of a dig at Hearts there?

Down, down, deeper 'n down

[linlithgowhibbie]

My money's on ICT, theirs had neither the brobdingnagian length of a Budge missive nor the Sevco habit of hammering the thesaurus for fancier words, so they should be able to rattle one out in no time.


Brobdingnagian,,,,, wow, I thought your cat had run over your keyboard. My wife now thinks Hibs.net is an educational site:thumbsup:

[Aldo]

Doubt it Aldo
We will all be told for the Greater Good of the Game that once The Rangers get this out Their system we need to forgive them
But The Rangers will continue with thier concerted campaign for Power
The fact there are no games is causing a vacuum that they want to exploit to the Maximum
Hearts on the other hand are Just A Basket Case and a Desparate laughing stock


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If they don’t Ronnie a very dangerous precedent is being set. Means a free for all and clubs can pretty much say what they want without the fear of consequences.


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[HoboHarry]

Brobdingnagian,,,,, wow, I thought your cat had run over your keyboard. My wife now thinks Hibs.net is an educational site:thumbsup:
Someone has been watching the Big Bang Theory :greengrin

[Sammy7nil]

Bit of a weak statement from them - not the rousing call to arms and legal action I expect a lot of their followers wanted to hear.
Almost a bit of a surrender if that is the most they shall come up with.

No Surrender :wink:

Who were the two teams that abstained (cowards)?

Hibs and Hearts :cb

[nonshinyfinish]

Someone has been watching the Big Bang Theory :greengrin

How dare you.

My (literally) Swiftian rhetoric is wasted here.

[Keith_M]

I didn't say it was dignified, just not bile filled.

That in comparison to some of their statements smacks of resignation in the face of overwhelming odds.

A bit like Germany in November 1918 they have achieved an Armistace...their Versailles will follow shortly


Fair enough, that about sums it up

[JohnMcM]

Q. "Grandpa, what did you do in the war?"
A. "I did what I thought was good for everyone else."

Q. Hearts, Rangers, ICT, Falkirk and Stranraer, what did you do during the Covid 19 crisis?"
A. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

[Sammy7nil]

Today's sportsoumd podcast https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p08czgy7