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[Scouse Hibee]

I think Hibs will limit ST sales very shortly to allow them to comply with social distancing measures when the season starts in August.


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Social distancing in a football stadium, wishful thinking but it simply ain’t happening, it’s either all or nothing.

[Billy Whizz]

Social distancing in a football stadium, wishful thinking but it simply ain’t happening, it’s either all or nothing.

And I think your Lancashire rivals, have approved safe standing

[Dashing Bob S]

Social distancing in a football stadium, wishful thinking but it simply ain’t happening, it’s either all or nothing.

It’ll happen at Tynecastle.


When they come to Easter Road it might replace the ‘boycott’.

[Sir David Gray]

I think Hibs will limit ST sales very shortly to allow them to comply with social distancing measures when the season starts in August.


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How are they going to do that?

Over 5000 people have already renewed and whilst that's only a quarter of the capacity of Easter Road, how do you know that a lot of these 5000 people don't all sit in the same areas?

One of the main reasons people have bought this early is so they can get their own seat and to sit next to family and friends.

[PaulSmith]

Social distancing in a football stadium, wishful thinking but it simply ain’t happening, it’s either all or nothing.

Of course it can happen. Certainly not with a full stadium but are you saying that say 3000 people cannot be socially distanced within Easter Rd.

1) look at stadium plan and work out numbers that it can accommodate

2) keep families together

3) create a one way system in the stadium

4) mark out 2 metres at kiosks etc

5) split up the tickets into groups..group one arrives at 2pm, group two at 2.20 etc etc

This is me thinking about it in 5 minutes. The experts have 12 weeks.

Entirely doable if you break it down and want it to happen

[PaulSmith]

How are they going to do that?

Over 5000 people have already renewed and whilst that's only a quarter of the capacity of Easter Road, how do you know that a lot of these 5000 people don't all sit in the same areas?

One of the main reasons people have bought this early is so they can get their own seat and to sit next to family and friends.

You can opt out if you are that precious about sitting in your own seat.


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[Scouse Hibee]

Of course it can happen. Certainly not with a full stadium but are you saying that say 3000 people cannot be socially distanced within Easter Rd.

1) look at stadium plan and work out numbers that it can accommodate

2) keep families together

3) create a one way system in the stadium

4) mark out 2 metres at kiosks etc

5) split up the tickets into groups..group one arrives at 2pm, group two at 2.20 etc etc

This is me thinking about it in 5 minutes. The experts have 12 weeks.

Entirely doable if you break it down and want it to happen

Stop kidding yourself, there will be no football or mass gathering events until all can attend.

[PaulSmith]

Stop kidding yourself, there will be no football or mass gathering events until all can attend.

You seriously think that clubs aren’t looking at these kind of options to make sure that the season starts in August...I am absolutely certain that they are BTW.

[Scouse Hibee]

You seriously think that clubs aren’t looking at these kind of options to make sure that the season starts in August...I am absolutely certain that they are BTW.

You seriously think that the authorities would permit football clubs to hold matches in their stadiums whilst telling a huge proportion of their fans that they can’t attend because the small portion that will be allowed in the stadium are social distancing?
Come on get real, it ain’t happening!

If I am wrong and it happens I will donate £100 to the Dnipro Charity.

[PaulSmith]

You seriously think that the authorities would permit football clubs to hold matches in their stadiums whilst telling a huge proportion of their fans that they can’t attend because the small portion that will be allowed in the stadium are social distancing?
Come on get real, it ain’t happening!

I’m assuming that you haven’t seen the guidelines published by Ireland this evening which I guess won’t be wildly different to Scotland...if you haven’t I suggest a read and then coming back to this post with the context.


The authorities will say that to open an outdoor stadium you have to comply to social distancing guidelines. Exactly the same as what the Irish Govt have done.

Clubs will look at their own stadiums and work with the SPFL working party to see what is feasible, the goal being working towards an end date when the season must start. I suspect that will be late August or September at a push.


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[Billy Whizz]

You seriously think that clubs aren’t looking at these kind of options to make sure that the season starts in August...I am absolutely certain that they are BTW.

I’m sure they are, but there will be queues to get in, going to the toilet, catering facilities, and how to leave after the game, 2 metres apart
This is all as it stands

[Scouse Hibee]

I’m assuming that you haven’t seen the guidelines published by Ireland this evening which I guess won’t be wildly different to Scotland...if you haven’t I suggest a read and then coming back to this post with the context.


The authorities will say that to open an outdoor stadium you have to comply to social distancing guidelines. Exactly the same as what the Irish Govt have done.

Clubs will look at their own stadiums and work with the SPFL working party to see what is feasible, the goal being working towards an end date when the season must start. I suspect that will be late August or September at a push.


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I don’t need to read that to know that it won’t be happening at major football matches, trust me!

[Glory Lurker]

I’m sure they are, but there will be queues to get in, going to the toilet, catering facilities, and how to leave after the game, 2 metres apart
This is all as it stands

Not to mention the ching gangs.

[PaulSmith]

I’m sure they are, but there will be queues to get in, going to the toilet, catering facilities, and how to leave after the game, 2 metres apart
This is all as it stands

I’ve given some thoughts already to these points.

Stadium exit.. row by row, block by block. It really isn’t that hard, it will take compliance and good will but that’s the price that I suspect that fans will be willing to pay to watch their team.

Give me more challenges and I bet I can give a credible answer to mitigate the risk.


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[PaulSmith]

I don’t need to read that to know that it won’t be happening at major football matches, trust me!

So large social outdoor gatherings at football/GAA that can prove compliance to social distancing seems workable in Ireland but not here.

If you don’t mind I’d rather discuss further than just trust you...


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[Sir David Gray]

You can opt out if you are that precious about sitting in your own seat.


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If you can't see the problem with having a season ticket campaign over the last 6 weeks, advertising all along the way that people can buy their own seat if they buy before a certain time and sit next to their friends and family and then suddenly have to tell those people that they won't be able to sit in that seat and not only that but also expect stewards and police to get involved with enforcing social distancing during games then there's probably no point in saying any more on this conversation.

[PaulSmith]

If you can't see the problem with having a season ticket campaign over the last 6 weeks, advertising all along the way that people can buy their own seat if they buy before a certain time and sit next to their friends and family and then suddenly have to tell those people that they won't be able to sit in that seat and not only that but also expect stewards and police to get involved with enforcing social distancing during games then there's probably no point in saying any more on this conversation.


Of course there are problems with it, it is not perfect. But it might well be what we need to accept for a period of time.

Do we need police/stewards getting involved in enforcing social distancing in a Tesco, no we pretty well accept the queue, the one way system and are respectful of others.

Read the part about reissuing tickets and keeping families together. That isn’t “suddenly” that’s saying this is what we need to do and then it’s up to the fan to accept the ticket or not.

Quite happy if you keep denying what is the most likely scenario.


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[Irish_Steve]

Agreed me too,I would pay to have my name on it if that ever became possible.

Hearts certainly used to do this - I remember when we played St Johnstone at the PBS in the semi of the CIS Cup or whatever it was called then (remember the streaker who came out from the Perth end and then landed on his nuts when he jumped back into the crowd?) I had the privilege of sitting in a maroon seat that belonged to a "Scott Brown" lol

[chippy]

I'm asking why would he give season-ticket holders shares.

If these are new shares, why would he dilute his own personal shareholding?

If they're existing shares, why would he give away shares that he has paid for?

And, what value would they be to the ST holders, most of whom will probably already be shareholders?

I’ll respond line by line
1) As I said in my post it’s one way to compensate fans for a cancelled or reduced season whereby matches may be played behind closed dorms for all or part of next season. Of course it could be an option where season ticket holders could choose to say no just keep the money as a donation, or the club could view the money as a loan to be repaid over subsequent seasons in terms of discounts for example. Or the club refund
2) To keep the fans on board for when fans are allowed back into stadia. Respect the loyalty fans have shown to the club in difficult times for the club but also for many of the club’s supporters. Give the fans something tangible in exchange for their loyalty and money.
3) see 2 above
4) it’s entirely possible that some fans may not want shares. Others may be ok about having more shares or have them for the 1st time. After all circa £1.5 million banked at the moment is no small sum and in total is , if rumours of Rons purchase of Hibs are true amounts to some 25% of the purchase price. I don’t think Hibs will want to be seen to simply swallow the investment by the fans without giving something in return. That is entirely within Ron’s gift if no or little football is played at ER

[CropleyWasGod]

I’ll respond line by line
1) As I said in my post it’s one way to compensate fans for a cancelled or reduced season whereby matches may be played behind closed dorms for all or part of next season. Of course it could be an option where season ticket holders could choose to say no just keep the money as a donation, or the club could view the money as a loan to be repaid over subsequent seasons in terms of discounts for example. Or the club refund
2) To keep the fans on board for when fans are allowed back into stadia. Respect the loyalty fans have shown to the club in difficult times for the club but also for many of the club’s supporters. Give the fans something tangible in exchange for their loyalty and money.
3) see 2 above
4) it’s entirely possible that some fans may not want shares. Others may be ok about having more shares or have them for the 1st time. After all circa £1.5 million banked at the moment is no small sum and in total is , if rumours of Rons purchase of Hibs are true amounts to some 25% of the purchase price. I don’t think Hibs will want to be seen to simply swallow the investment by the fans without giving something in return. That is entirely within Ron’s gift if no or little football is played at ER

Thanks

If one accepts the principle that it's the Club that should recompense ST holders, which is fair, giving shares doesn't cost the Club any money.

It does, though, affect RG's situation, and I can't see that as being fair. His holding is diluted or reduced, and some ST's get a pie at the AGM 😁

[B.H.F.C]

Forget the practicalities of implementing social distancing at Easter Road. From a financial perspective it’s just not going to be viable to operate with vastly reduced crowds.

Just like a pub or restaurant, a football club can’t cover costs if they are operating with 25% of their potential customer base in the building.

[Del Boy]

Watching sky sports news just now and a professor being interviewed said will be over 12 months and more like 24 months before they allow full stadiums in Britain.

Grim.

[Scouse Hibee]

Forget the practicalities of implementing social distancing at Easter Road. From a financial perspective it’s just not going to be viable to operate with vastly reduced crowds.

Just like a pub or restaurant, a football club can’t cover costs if they are operating with 25% of their potential customer base in the building.

Of course they can’t and won’t.

Dear Season Ticket holder, thank you for renewing your season ticket for the coming season, we are sorry that we couldn’t fulfil last seasons home fixtures and therefore you paid for games that you never got to see.
Unfortunately due to social distancing for the coming season we regret to inform you that your purchase of a season ticket does not guarantee you entrance to every home game, instead you will enter a ballot, the lucky ones can attend games, the unlucky ones can just stay away please 😂

[MagicSwirlingShip]

Surely any plans to implement social distancing (or even the possibility of) would needed to have been advised when tickets went on sale.

[Sir David Gray]

Of course they can’t and won’t.

Dear Season Ticket holder, thank you for renewing your season ticket for the coming season, we are sorry that we couldn’t fulfil last seasons home fixtures and therefore you paid for games that you never got to see.
Unfortunately due to social distancing for the coming season we regret to inform you that your purchase of a season ticket does not guarantee you entrance to every home game, instead you will enter a ballot, the lucky ones can attend games, the unlucky ones can just stay away please 😂

Imagine that. :faf:

[Bishop Hibee]

Of course they can’t and won’t.

Dear Season Ticket holder, thank you for renewing your season ticket for the coming season, we are sorry that we couldn’t fulfil last seasons home fixtures and therefore you paid for games that you never got to see.
Unfortunately due to social distancing for the coming season we regret to inform you that your purchase of a season ticket does not guarantee you entrance to every home game, instead you will enter a ballot, the lucky ones can attend games, the unlucky ones can just stay away please 😂

Cap the ST sales and keep seats in between with no away fans? Yes, I have been drinking!

[The Harp Awakes]

Watching sky sports news just now and a professor being interviewed said will be over 12 months and more like 24 months before they allow full stadiums in Britain.

Grim.

Everything you hear suggests that this virus spreads like wildfire. Until there is a vaccine I agree there is no chance of spectator sport within that timeframe.

[allezsauzee]

Everything you hear suggests that this virus spreads like wildfire. Until there is a vaccine I agree there is no chance of spectator sport within that timeframe.

Given that the virus spreads so quickly, it might be the case that the discovery of a vaccine is fairly irrelevant given the amount of time it takes to find a drug compound that works ,is proven not to have harmful side effects and then mass produced. The lockdown/social distancing measures put in place are designed to slow down the spread so that the NHS is not overwhelmed . At some point these measures are just stopped and the virus will be allowed to take its course. I think football will be allowed to proceed as normal next season albeit probably delayed.

[Gatecrasher]

Fantastic effort by the Hibs fans and I hope many more to come. I have already given up hope of getting to ER next season. I do hope that something can be agreed to allow STH to watch games on Hibs tv or something or a special package with sky who can arrange something similar (at a league level). The technology is there!

[PaulSmith]

Imagine that. :faf:

Imaging being so ignorant and having such a closed mind.

Given that likely scenario that that season has to start by say August 22nd and clubs are given a choice as to playing behind closed doors or opening their stadium, as long as it adheres to social distancing, then I’d be raging if Hibs don’t explore it.

So keep going with silly emojis as I’m confident that this is a very likely scenario.

Coincidence that Hibs ST holders now have free access to Hibs TV or a wee bit of future planning?

[PaulSmith]

Watching sky sports news just now and a professor being interviewed said will be over 12 months and more like 24 months before they allow full stadiums in Britain.

Grim.

Exactly. So work through that likely scenario and tell me what conclusion you reach. There will be football, that’s not in question, so if full stadiums aren’t allowed then how do you make it work.

[bingo70]

Imaging being so ignorant and having such a closed mind.

Given that likely scenario that that season has to start by say August 22nd and clubs are given a choice as to playing behind closed doors or opening their stadium, as long as it adheres to social distancing, then I’d be raging if Hibs don’t explore it.

So keep going with silly emojis as I’m confident that this is a very likely scenario.

Coincidence that Hibs ST holders now have free access to Hibs TV or a wee bit of future planning?

Exactly, I don’t think it’s anywhere near as silly a suggestion as that daft emoji response suggested.

If Hibs come out and say they’re exploring options to get some people into the ground but it may not be possible to have all season ticket holders in at once then maybe rotating the games season tickets work for would be sensible. One week it would be my turn, the next it could be yours. It’s not ideal but I’d certainly prefer that to all games being behind closed doors.

FWIW I can see the following:-

Behind closed doors at first, then a gradual return to normal.....

-Face masks compulsory
-No away fans
-Catering facilities closed
-Limited number of people allowed in the toilets at once.
-Possible rotation of season ticket use (despite the amusement of some posters)
-Not allowing kids under a certain age (they’re no the best at social distancing and would be a way of restricting numbers)
-Asking for people to volunteer to move seats to the south stand as a way of spreading the crowd out.
-Access through an open gate with a steward using a hand held machine instead of turnstiles.

I’m sure there’s flaws in the above suggestions and there’s probably others I’ve not thought of, it’s not a perfect time and we’re not going to go from no fans one week to the possibility of 60,000 odd at Celtic park the next, there’s bound to be some sort of gradual increase in numbers.

[Brooster]

Exactly, I don’t think it’s anywhere near as silly a suggestion as that daft emoji response suggested.

If Hibs come out and say they’re exploring options to get some people into the ground but it may not be possible to have all season ticket holders in at once then maybe rotating the games season tickets work for would be sensible. One week it would be my turn, the next it could be yours. It’s not ideal but I’d certainly prefer that to all games being behind closed doors.

FWIW I can see the following:-

Behind closed doors at first, then a gradual return to normal.....

-Face masks compulsory
-No away fans
-Catering facilities closed
-Limited number of people allowed in the toilets at once.
-Possible rotation of season ticket use (despite the amusement of some posters)
-Not allowing kids under a certain age (they’re no the best at social distancing and would be a way of restricting numbers)
-Asking for people to volunteer to move seats to the south stand as a way of spreading the crowd out.
-Access through an open gate with a steward using a hand held machine instead of turnstiles.

I’m sure there’s flaws in the above suggestions and there’s probably others I’ve not thought of, it’s not a perfect time and we’re not going to go from no fans one week to the possibility of 60,000 odd at Celtic park the next, there’s bound to be some sort of gradual increase in numbers.

To be honest I think it would be better to wait until we return to normal rather than go through all that. These scenarios you describe would be absolutely garbage for everyone involved.

[bingo70]

To be honest I think it would be better to wait until we return to normal rather than go through all that. These scenarios you describe would be absolutely garbage for everyone involved.

I think it depends how you define normal.

It’s going to be a long long time until things return to the old normal.

I agree the above sounds *****, imo it would be less ***** than not having any football to go to, each to their own though, I’ll take your season ticket when it’s your turn 😉

[danhibees1875]

It's not a daft suggestion but I struggle to see how it would be practically implemented.

What does 2m apart look like when in a stadium? By the time you dot people around at such a distance from eachother I'm not sure it'll be as big a number as 5,000 people that would get to go the game.

How do you deal with the start and end of the game with people using stairs, concourse, and entrance/exits at the same time - that's going to be significantly harder to manage than the average supermarket queue.

[PaulSmith]

I think it depends how you define normal.

It’s going to be a long long time until things return to the old normal.

I agree the above sounds *****, imo it would be less ***** than not having any football to go to, each to their own though, I’ll take your season ticket when it’s your turn 😉

We’re just seeing the change cycle being played out on this thread.

Shock - How can they even suggest it
Denial - I’ve thought about it and it will never happen
Acceptance - Oh well, I don’t agree with it but it’s going to happen
Opportunity - ok, how can we make a bad situation as good as it can be

[Since90+2]

I think it depends how you define normal.

It’s going to be a long long time until things return to the old normal.

I agree the above sounds *****, imo it would be less ***** than not having any football to go to, each to their own though, I’ll take your season ticket when it’s your turn 😉

I'd rather watch the game in the house with a few mates than go to a stadium in the above scenario. I'd imagine alot if people will be the same.

[B.H.F.C]

Exactly, I don’t think it’s anywhere near as silly a suggestion as that daft emoji response suggested.

If Hibs come out and say they’re exploring options to get some people into the ground but it may not be possible to have all season ticket holders in at once then maybe rotating the games season tickets work for would be sensible. One week it would be my turn, the next it could be yours. It’s not ideal but I’d certainly prefer that to all games being behind closed doors.

FWIW I can see the following:-

Behind closed doors at first, then a gradual return to normal.....

-Face masks compulsory
-No away fans
-Catering facilities closed
-Limited number of people allowed in the toilets at once.
-Possible rotation of season ticket use (despite the amusement of some posters)
-Not allowing kids under a certain age (they’re no the best at social distancing and would be a way of restricting numbers)
-Asking for people to volunteer to move seats to the south stand as a way of spreading the crowd out.
-Access through an open gate with a steward using a hand held machine instead of turnstiles.

I’m sure there’s flaws in the above suggestions and there’s probably others I’ve not thought of, it’s not a perfect time and we’re not going to go from no fans one week to the possibility of 60,000 odd at Celtic park the next, there’s bound to be some sort of gradual increase in numbers.

The biggest thing in there which makes it a no go is rotation of season ticket use. If you can only use your season ticket for 50% of the games say, are the club going to refund the other 50% to everybody? Because Hibs would be going against their own T&C as soon as they try to do it. The good will of people not wanting their money back (as will be the case with most for the games already lost) won’t continue forever.

With no paying fans on the day, potential refunds to season ticket holders, the costs of making the ground compliant with social distancing and subsequently enforcing that, I just can’t see how it could be done without us losing money. I could potentially see it happening in other countries that are much less reliant on the paying fan due to TV money but it’s just not viable here IMO.

[Beefster]

To be honest I think it would be better to wait until we return to normal rather than go through all that. These scenarios you describe would be absolutely garbage for everyone involved.

Yup. I’m not sure what anyone gets out of that tbh. It would cost Hibs an absolute fortune to implement all that - for what benefit? Would probably be more financially sensible for them to stream closed-door games live, provide access to the streams to all ST holders and hope that no-one really agitated for a refund.

[PaulSmith]

The biggest thing in there which makes it a no go is rotation of season ticket use. If you can only use your season ticket for 50% of the games say, are the club going to refund the other 50% to everybody? Because Hibs would be going against their own T&C as soon as they try to do it. The good will of people not wanting their money back (as will be the case with most for the games already lost) won’t continue forever.

With no paying fans on the day, potential refunds to season ticket holders, the costs of making the ground compliant with social distancing and subsequently enforcing that, I just can’t see how it could be done without us losing money. I could potentially see it happening in other countries that are much less reliant on the paying fan due to TV money but it’s just not viable here IMO.

Seriously what is the alternative if we accept that the season has to start before Xmas (?)and social distancing is part of the criteria for allowing fans into outdoor stadiums.

The only alternatives I can see is that we a) simply don’t have a football club anymore b) the season never starts c) all games are played with zero fans

I really want to hear other folks views on this as it’s the most likely scenario unless anyone else wants to paint a different picture.

[bingo70]

I'd rather watch the game in the house with a few mates than go to a stadium in the above scenario. I'd imagine alot if people will be the same.

I get the season ticket rotation thing might not be workable in practice but surely the rest of it isn’t any great hardship?

Have to wear masks- coming anyway so better get used to it.

No away fans- no big deal

No catering- eat before you go out

Limited people in the toilets at once- I suspect the pubs won’t be open then so the demand for toilets won’t be as high.

People volunteering to sit in the south- why would that bother you?

Entering through a gate rather than a turnstile- surely that’s not much of a hardship if it prevents the spread of the virus?

[kaimendhibs]

I’ve given some thoughts already to these points.

Stadium exit.. row by row, block by block. It really isn’t that hard, it will take compliance and good will but that’s the price that I suspect that fans will be willing to pay to watch their team.

Give me more challenges and I bet I can give a credible answer to mitigate the risk.


Sent from my iPad using TapatalkNae disrespect but how can you believe people will comply with the measures required when we still have folk taking in pyros, booze, glass bottles, launching the same, invading the pitch etc etc?

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[Sir David Gray]

Imaging being so ignorant and having such a closed mind.

Given that likely scenario that that season has to start by say August 22nd and clubs are given a choice as to playing behind closed doors or opening their stadium, as long as it adheres to social distancing, then I’d be raging if Hibs don’t explore it.

So keep going with silly emojis as I’m confident that this is a very likely scenario.

Coincidence that Hibs ST holders now have free access to Hibs TV or a wee bit of future planning?

I was responding to a post that was being equally as flippant and I found it funny. That's usually how people get across that they find something funny on a platform like this, where the spoken word can't be heard and facial reactions can't be seen.

Your tone on this discussion is really beginning to annoy me (I notice that's also been picked up by another poster on the other thread) so I'll leave it there as I don't want to end up saying something that I'll later regret and be responsible for threads turning into a slanging match.

Suffice to say that I think we both look forward to the day when we can all safely attend Easter Road again and hopefully that's something we can both agree on.


Exactly, I don’t think it’s anywhere near as silly a suggestion as that daft emoji response suggested.

If Hibs come out and say they’re exploring options to get some people into the ground but it may not be possible to have all season ticket holders in at once then maybe rotating the games season tickets work for would be sensible. One week it would be my turn, the next it could be yours. It’s not ideal but I’d certainly prefer that to all games being behind closed doors.

FWIW I can see the following:-

Behind closed doors at first, then a gradual return to normal.....

-Face masks compulsory
-No away fans
-Catering facilities closed
-Limited number of people allowed in the toilets at once.
-Possible rotation of season ticket use (despite the amusement of some posters)
-Not allowing kids under a certain age (they’re no the best at social distancing and would be a way of restricting numbers)
-Asking for people to volunteer to move seats to the south stand as a way of spreading the crowd out.
-Access through an open gate with a steward using a hand held machine instead of turnstiles.

I’m sure there’s flaws in the above suggestions and there’s probably others I’ve not thought of, it’s not a perfect time and we’re not going to go from no fans one week to the possibility of 60,000 odd at Celtic park the next, there’s bound to be some sort of gradual increase in numbers.

See my first and third paragraphs above.

There's definite flaws in the suggestion that Hibs are going to limit season ticket sales. People have been told that they have until 4th June, which is almost 5 weeks away, to buy their seat for next season. By that time we may have sold another 3 or 4,000 which is worth hundreds of thousands of pounds to the club. Hibs aren't going to put an end to their main source of income.

What happens with kids season tickets that have already been bought if they're banned under a certain age? What happens with their parent's season ticket that's already been bought, if there's no one else to look after the child whilst they're at the football and therefore they're unable to attend as well?

Who's going to enforce the limited use of the toilets? I can't see a steward being too happy at being given that shift, considering the nature of a sizeable minority of football fans.

[bingo70]

I was responding to a post that was being equally as flippant and I found it funny. That's usually how people get across that they find something funny on a platform like this, where the spoken word can't be heard and facial reactions can't be seen.

Your tone on this discussion is really beginning to annoy me (I notice that's also been picked up by another poster on the other thread) so I'll leave it there as I don't want to end up saying something that I'll later regret and be responsible for threads turning into a slanging match.

Suffice to say that I think we both look forward to the day when we can all safely attend Easter Road again and hopefully that's something we can both agree on.



See my first and third paragraphs above.

There's definite flaws in the suggestion that Hibs are going to limit season ticket sales. People have been told that they have until 4th June, which is almost 5 weeks away, to buy their seat for next season. By that time we may have sold another 3 or 4,000 which is worth hundreds of thousands of pounds to the club. Hibs aren't going to put an end to their main source of income.

What happens with kids season tickets that have already been bought if they're banned under a certain age? What happens with their parent's season ticket that's already been bought, if there's no one else to look after the child whilst they're at the football and therefore they're unable to attend as well?

Who's going to enforce the limited use of the toilets? I can't see a steward being too happy at being given that shift, considering the nature of a sizeable minority of football fans.

I’d like to think people would be grown up to realise it’s trying to make the most of a bad situation.

In the same way people are having to queue to get into supermarkets that most people wouldn’t normally dream of doing.

If people didn’t adhere to it the stadium would get closed.

Nobody has got a lower opinion of the general public than me but even I think people would be capable of following a few simple rules if it meant getting back to seeing some sort of football in the ground.

[PaulSmith]

Nae disrespect but how can you believe people will comply with the measures required when we still have folk taking in pyros, booze, glass bottles, launching the same, invading the pitch etc etc?

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Simply cause times and mindsets have changed systemically.

Not to also mention that it’s easier to spot a bam sitting alone than in a group. Your using old ways of thinking rather than visualising what this will be like..which in reality is a soulless atmosphere where you will be able to hear the players shouting to each other.

Its a crap scenario but it’s the least worst if we want to see Hibs play.

[Antifa Hibs]

Seriously what is the alternative if we accept that the season has to start before Xmas (?)and social distancing is part of the criteria for allowing fans into outdoor stadiums.

The only alternatives I can see is that we a) simply don’t have a football club anymore b) the season never starts c) all games are played with zero fans

I really want to hear other folks views on this as it’s the most likely scenario unless anyone else wants to paint a different picture.

Can see no fans and PPV deal with Sky Sports being the way forward. Screen games via PPV via the help of an online platform and allow Sky Sports their 1-2 games per week exclusively on the tele maybe.

To allow people into stadiums surely you could only have 2 people per row? Otherwise how do you maintain social distancing when shuffling passed someone on your row for a piss? Or on your way to your seat at the start of the match, or if you had to leave with 5 minutes to go? If two per row is the case the east stand could cater for 36 people per block which is 288 for the whole stand. Say the West is the same and let's say 200 for both ends. That would be under 1000. There would still be stewards needed for each gangway, there might even be polis needed to ensure social distancing is being kept. Alot of aggro involved to let a thousand fans in.

We all want fitba back - it's a large part of lives but i think people are quite delusional on how important it is in the wider scheme of things. There's alot of clickbait headlines going around aswell. Yesterday I read Seria A was making a come back in 2 weeks time. Do a little more digging and you find the true facts that the clubs voted to restart asap - of course they would they need the cash like everyone else but then you read the government already KB'd that idea. Papers running with similar stories about the Bundesliga but again, do a bit more looking around the Police for some states have already said bolt and the fans are against the idea also. Can't see any spectators being allowed for sports and events in 2020.

I've already said in this thread i'd like to see the early bird extended as i'm unsure if i can renew. If they don't extend it i'll renew anyway most likely. As it stands i'll be seeing it as a donation to the club over an actual season ticket where i'm looking for a return on my cash. Maybe Ron can buy us all a pie in a few years time when it's all blown over.

[bingo70]

Simply cause times and mindsets have changed systemically.

Not to also mention that it’s easier to spot a bam sitting alone than in a group. Your using old ways of thinking rather than visualising what this will be like..which in reality is a soulless atmosphere where you will be able to hear the players shouting to each other.

Its a crap scenario but it’s the least worst if we want to see Hibs play.

Spot on.

There’s flaws in every plan but we’re not going to go from 0 fans to over 60,000 at Celtic park without some sort of transition in between. People might not like all these plans but I suspect they better get used to the idea of some of them.

[Billy Whizz]

Spot on.

There’s flaws in every plan but we’re not going to go from 0 fans to over 60,000 at Celtic park without some sort of transition in between. People might not like all these plans but I suspect they better get used to the idea of some of them.

And how do we get to the games will be an issue too
Quite a few use supporters buses to go home and away

[hibbysam]

Just curious, but to those asking hibs to implement social distancing, I’m curious as to how you do that. 2m distances at seats are what, 4/5 seats apart? That’s both sideways and up and down the way, you’d be lucky to get 500 fans in the whole stadium. Once people are in their seats, if you need a pish and are in the middle of a row are you just to sit and hold it in?

We will be back playing, and we will have full crowds again, pretending this won’t happen is nonsensical. When it happens is another question, but there’s no chance hibs are going to massive expense just to let 500-1000 fans through the door.

[PaulSmith]

Can see no fans and PPV deal with Sky Sports being the way forward. Screen games via PPV via the help of an online platform and allow Sky Sports their 1-2 games per week exclusively on the tele maybe.

To allow people into stadiums surely you could only have 2 people per row? Otherwise how do you maintain social distancing when shuffling passed someone on your row for a piss? Or on your way to your seat at the start of the match, or if you had to leave with 5 minutes to go? If two per row is the case the east stand could cater for 36 people per block which is 288 for the whole stand. Say the West is the same and let's say 200 for both ends. That would be under 1000. There would still be stewards needed for each gangway, there might even be polis needed to ensure social distancing is being kept. Alot of aggro involved to let a thousand fans in.

We all want fitba back - it's a large part of lives but i think people are quite delusional on how important it is in the wider scheme of things. There's alot of clickbait headlines going around aswell. Yesterday I read Seria A was making a come back in 2 weeks time. Do a little more digging and you find the true facts that the clubs voted to restart asap - of course they would they need the cash like everyone else but then you read the government already KB'd that idea. Papers running with similar stories about the Bundesliga but again, do a bit more looking around the Police for some states have already said bolt and the fans are against the idea also. Can't see any spectators being allowed for sports and events in 2020.

I think it would be much more than two per row. We manage to walk by people in the street, in closed environments such as supermarkets etc without too much trouble.

Personal opinion is that it’s utterly doable and the costs of implementing would be manageable but respect others who think otherwise.

[PaulSmith]

And how do we get to the games will be an issue too
Quite a few use supporters buses to go home and away

Cars and public transport?

I don’t think there will be many away fans in 2020.

[hibee]

I’ve given some thoughts already to these points.

Stadium exit.. row by row, block by block. It really isn’t that hard, it will take compliance and good will but that’s the price that I suspect that fans will be willing to pay to watch their team.

Give me more challenges and I bet I can give a credible answer to mitigate the risk.


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What if someone needs the toilet, does the whole row have to go with them?

[bingo70]

What if someone needs the toilet, does the whole row have to go with them?

Remember we’re not talking about a return this afternoon.

The return to football will be when social distancing rules are relaxed a bit.

[B.H.F.C]

Cars and public transport?

I don’t think there will be many away fans in 2020.

There will be more Hibs fans travelling from West Lothian than there is Livingston fans if we were playing at ER. When we are playing at Ibrox there will be more of them travelling from Edinburgh than there is Hibs fans.

When grounds are open, it’ll be home and away fans. Otherwise, it’s just another thing that means it’s not viable for clubs.

[Antifa Hibs]

I think it would be much more than two per row. We manage to walk by people in the street, in closed environments such as supermarkets etc without too much trouble.

Personal opinion is that it’s utterly doable and the costs of implementing would be manageable but respect others who think otherwise.

So you have 8 people per row, 2 are on the wings they're sound. However the 6 people sandwiched in the middle - how do the get passed each other for a piss or to enter or leave? You could have the person on the wings being passed by 3-4 people several times throughout the match. Then if its 8 people per row that's 3800 say. You're still going to need to open every turnstile in every stand, have stewards on every gangway and at pitch side, first aiders, fire marshall's etc. Alot of expense when you're not going to take one single penny in.

Regarding walking passed people in the street and at supermarkets that's essential. We need to exercise and we need to eat. Hibs v St Johnstone having spectators isn't essential i'm afraid. Also you may have noticed the council have shut down some roads to allow people to spill onto them as the pavements are busy.

When balloting for tickets what postcodes do you allow? Do Leithers and Lochenders want 3800 people descending on their streets, shops and pavements when social distancing is meant to be maintained? We'll have a sizeable number of fans East, Mid and West Lothian council regions not to mention Fife and further beyond. Are they allowed to travel?

I admire your optimism but i just can't see it. My pal yesterday took delivery of a PC desk, his office chair, keyboard, mouse, PC and monitors. His work got specialist cleaners in then arranged couriers. They offered this to their 1100 staff! When you take into account the man-hours and costs involved i don't think they're expecting offices to open anytime soon - thus can't see fitba fans in stadiums anytime soon.

[GreenCastle]

Scotland won’t partially open stadiums.

It will be closed doors or fully open when they do return.

Possibly closed doors from August till Xmas then January fans fully allowed into stadia.

[The 90+2]

Scotland won’t partially open stadiums.

It will be closed doors or fully open when they do return.

Possibly closed doors from August till Xmas then January fans fully allowed into stadia.

I don’t think there will be fans until an antidote is found.

[PaulSmith]

Remember we’re not talking about a return this afternoon.

The return to football will be when social distancing rules are relaxed a bit.

That’s the bit I think I’m struggling to get across so thanks for chipping in. By the time August comes then things, all being well, will have significantly changed from as they are now.

Ireland has a phased approach to deal with exactly that.

[PaulSmith]

I don’t think there will be fans until an antidote is found.

That’s fine but when you consider that it seems OK for Ireland to allow spectators into stadiums come August and there is a specific joint SPFL/SFA working group set up to look at making it happen then the evidence suggests that it is do-able.

[Blaster]

I think people are dismissing this too easily. I have no doubt discussions on this option will be happening. It would be difficult to implement but not impossible. People would have to follow the rules but not different rules to going to a supermarket in terms of keeping distance.

It does not have to be 2m between every person. It’s 2m between households so you could still have 2/3/4 people sitting together if they live together

Some rough numbers which includes lots of assumptions so please humour me

West lower has around 20 rows I think. If you lose a row to allow distancing and you could average 7 folk per row (in groups of 2/3/4 depends on households) you could get around 70 folk per section.

8 sections in the lower and similar in upper could get you around 1200 in the West. Take similar approach across the stands and maybe somehow get to 4-5000?

Very difficult to manage, absolutely. But it’s not impossible and this will definitely be getting thought about.

[Sir David Gray]

I’d like to think people would be grown up to realise it’s trying to make the most of a bad situation.

In the same way people are having to queue to get into supermarkets that most people wouldn’t normally dream of doing.

If people didn’t adhere to it the stadium would get closed.

Nobody has got a lower opinion of the general public than me but even I think people would be capable of following a few simple rules if it meant getting back to seeing some sort of football in the ground.

The authorities currently don't trust football fans to bring in a bottle of Irn Bru because of the previously mentioned sizeable minority, so I hardly think they'll be overly keen to put their trust in that same sizeable minority when the country's recovery from a public health emergency is at stake.

[Keith_M]

Seriously what is the alternative if we accept that the season has to start before Xmas (?)and social distancing is part of the criteria for allowing fans into outdoor stadiums.

The only alternatives I can see is that we a) simply don’t have a football club anymore b) the season never starts c) all games are played with zero fans

I really want to hear other folks views on this as it’s the most likely scenario unless anyone else wants to paint a different picture.


I can imagine some people's view will be...

"I've paid for my Season Ticket and I demand my right to get in to every game, and to sit in the exact seat I pad for, or I'll be demanding my money back."

Fortunately, I don't think there would be that many people with that point of view and, if there are, just offer to cancel their Season Ticket and refund them.

For the rest of us, myself included, if I missed out on physically attending games for the first half of the season, or was only allowed to go to every second game, I'd think that was a reasonable price to pay for still having a club to support at the end of it.

[B.H.F.C]

I can imagine some people's view will be...

"I've paid for my Season Ticket and I demand my right to get in to every game, and to sit in the exact seat I pad for, or I'll be demanding my money back."

Fortunately, I don't think there would be that many people with that point of view and, if there are, just offer to cancel their Season Ticket and refund them.

For the rest of us, myself included, if I missed out on physically attending games for the first half of the season, or was only allowed to go to every second game, I'd think that was a reasonable price to pay for still having a club to support at the end of it.

I think a sizeable number would want money back. I think most were realistic about the ending of this season. But going forward, the club can’t rely on the good will of people forever. People aren’t going to shell out hundreds of pounds for something they can’t use.

Don’t see anything wrong with demanding to use something you’ve paid for. If you can’t use it , you should get your money back like in any other industry.

[GreenCastle]

If we had terracing still - going to watch football and keeping distance would be much easier at this time.

As mentioned above you get some absolute muppets at games who couldn’t be trusted so can’t see the government allowing fans to watch games anytime soon.

[Keith_M]

I think a sizeable number would want money back. I think most were realistic about the ending of this season. But going forward, the club can’t rely on the good will of people forever. People aren’t going to shell out hundreds of pounds for something they can’t use.

Don’t see anything wrong with demanding to use something you’ve paid for. If you can’t use it , you should get your money back like in any other industry.


And if that's what some people want then, as I said, just give them their money back.

Hibs will just have to survive on the combination of 'donations' from the other Season Ticket holders and TV money.

If that's what it takes, then so be it.

[Badabing]

That’s fine but when you consider that it seems OK for Ireland to allow spectators into stadiums come August and there is a specific joint SPFL/SFA working group set up to look at making it happen then the evidence suggests that it is do-able.

Hey, can youpost a link to where there’s a statement from the Irish Government saying that people will be allowed back inside stadiums come August.

[PaulSmith]

https://www.gov.ie/en/news/58bc8b-taoiseach-announces-roadmap-for-reopening-society-and-business-and-u/


Pubs, nightclubs and casinos can re-open, where social distancing and strict cleaning can be complied with.
Festivals, events and other social and cultural mass gatherings can take place only in accordance with both indoor and outdoor numbers and where social distancing can be complied with.

[nonshinyfinish]

The authorities currently don't trust football fans to bring in a bottle of Irn Bru because of the previously mentioned sizeable minority, so I hardly think they'll be overly keen to put their trust in that same sizeable minority when the country's recovery from a public health emergency is at stake.

This is the major difficulty I see as well. It might be different in Edinburgh, but when I'm in the supermarket down here there's a good 20 or 30% of people who are either too stupid or too self-important to follow the one-way system.

I think the suggested ideas are just about workable if everyone played along, but they're likely to fall down on the fact that a chunk of the population are just pricks.

[Peevemor]

This is the major difficulty I see as well. It might be different in Edinburgh, but when I'm in the supermarket down here there's a good 20 or 30% of people who are either too stupid or too self-important to follow the one-way system.

I think the suggested ideas are just about workable if everyone played along, but they're likely to fall down on the fact that a chunk of the population are just pricks.Exactly.

[hibee-boys]

I can't believe anyone is seriously thinking that social distancing would try and be implemented at football grounds. We'll either all be in there or not, if there is still a need to have some form distancing in the general population there'll not going to let any large gatherings of people......anywhere. Appreciate all the thought and consideration people have put into around how it might work but really?.....empty rows, every few seats empty, leave row at a time, families sitting together, friends not sitting together.....by the time everyone is strategically sat the game will be over🙈😂 Social distaning = no football fans in grounds.

[Ronniekirk]

https://www.gov.ie/en/news/58bc8b-taoiseach-announces-roadmap-for-reopening-society-and-business-and-u/


Pubs, nightclubs and casinos can re-open, where social distancing and strict cleaning can be complied with.
Festivals, events and other social and cultural mass gatherings can take place only in accordance with both indoor and outdoor numbers and where social distancing can be complied with.

But how do you safely comply with this is the nub of the issue
Will see what proposals come forward


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[Sir David Gray]

This is the major difficulty I see as well. It might be different in Edinburgh, but when I'm in the supermarket down here there's a good 20 or 30% of people who are either too stupid or too self-important to follow the one-way system.

I think the suggested ideas are just about workable if everyone played along, but they're likely to fall down on the fact that a chunk of the population are just pricks.

Agreed.

[blackpoolhibs]

I can't see social distancing at stadiums, it is just not workable in my opinion.

I don't for one moment see us doing it anyway, for the simple reason, i can't see any doctor sanctioning football to be played until they can guarantee the players and staff's safety.

And that is a long way off, insurance cover for players nevermind fans will be huge, maybe not even given, such is the risks.

[Keith_M]

I think we could allow two people per row of seats and one person if it's an end section (i.e. a walkway only one one side). This would be to prevent people having to pass each other while leaving the ground or to go to the toilet.

If we utilized the whole stadium for Home Fans, that would let us get about 1,500 fans in the ground quite safely.


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[Phil MaGlass]

I think a sizeable number would want money back. I think most were realistic about the ending of this season. But going forward, the club can’t rely on the good will of people forever. People aren’t going to shell out hundreds of pounds for something they can’t use.

Don’t see anything wrong with demanding to use something you’ve paid for. If you can’t use it , you should get your money back like in any other industry.

Maybe the club could turn this into shares or something for the future?Also put games on tv for us to see?
There needs to be a way to have UEFA agree that all games can be televised, this is crunch time for hundreds of clubs and will mean the death knell for many.

[DaveF]

Bradford suspend season ticket sales as they say they have been informed next season is 'highly likely' to be behind closed doors.

[Badabing]

But how do you safely comply with this is the nub of the issue
Will see what proposals come forward


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They certainly seem to be considering it which is interesting, as you say though it will also be interesting to see how this might work in practice. Just to add that generally Southern Ireland doesn't have some of the cultural difficulties that we do that starting playing football again might exacerbate.

[PaulSmith]

We do all understand the the Social Distancing is not a hard and fast rule, it’s guidance and as such clubs will need to demonstrate reasonable steps are being taken to adhere to the policy and that there will be a degree of risk acceptance, as in reality its impractical and impossible to have 100% compliance?

So the though that one or two idiots will spoil it and then shut down the whole project doesn’t seem credible.

[nomad]

Just renewed for my son and I. Do I expect to see football this year at Easter Road probably not.

The most important thing to me is to have a club to support at the end of this pandemic. I lived through the Hands off Hibs period and that was the worst summer of my life.

I just want the club to be there for all us Hibs fans at the end of this.

I Know not everyone can buy their season ticket due to their own circumstances it is more important we still have a club to support let’s pull together

Hail Hail tin hat on

[hibbysam]

We do all understand the the Social Distancing is not a hard and fast rule, it’s guidance and as such clubs will need to demonstrate reasonable steps are being taken to adhere to the policy and that there will be a degree of risk acceptance, as in reality its impractical and impossible to have 100% compliance?

So the though that one or two idiots will spoil it and then shut down the whole project doesn’t seem credible.

There is no way to pass by someone else in your row without coming into contact with them. That’s not an element of risk, that’s a massive risk. I also don’t think clubs will be that insistent on getting a few hundred season ticket holders through the door, they’d be as well playing behind closed doors as they have that money already, it’s not additional income.

Also, it’s not as desperate up here to get football back yesterday, like it is down south. Petrie said yesterday that match day income is around 50% of a clubs income, down south it’s nowhere near that so they don’t need fans, clubs up here need fans, especially those lower down the ladder.

[Keith_M]

I think we could allow two people per row of seats and one person if it's an end section (i.e. a walkway only one one side). This would be to prevent people having to pass each other while leaving the ground or to go to the toilet.

If we utilized the whole stadium for Home Fans, that would let us get about 1,500 fans in the ground quite safely.


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Since I posted this, I've thought up multiple variations of the above approach that would increase the possible number at ER by quite a bit.

I think Hibs should employ me as a consultant to advise them



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[bingo70]

Bradford suspend season ticket sales as they say they have been informed next season is 'highly likely' to be behind closed doors.

I saw Alan Nixon tweeting something yesterday saying other clubs were dismissing that as over the top, or something like that.

[PaulSmith]

There is no way to pass by someone else in your row without coming into contact with them. That’s not an element of risk, that’s a massive risk. I also don’t think clubs will be that insistent on getting a few hundred season ticket holders through the door, they’d be as well playing behind closed doors as they have that money already, it’s not additional income.

Also, it’s not as desperate up here to get football back yesterday, like it is down south. Petrie said yesterday that match day income is around 50% of a clubs income, down south it’s nowhere near that so they don’t need fans, clubs up here need fans, especially those lower down the ladder.

A “Massive risk” like really massive?

Is the millions who will shop in Tesco, Sainsburys and Asda today also at massive risk. Surely the risk is actually greater with the smaller aisles, it’s indoor and you will be bumping into loads more people rather than just the ones in your row.

When you pass someone in the row do you intend to cough or sneeze in their face or is it more likely that you’ll turn your back to them as you squeeze past for that one second?

[Keith_M]

A “Massive risk” like really massive?

Is the millions who will shop in Tesco, Sainsburys and Asda today also at massive risk. Surely the risk is actually greater with the smaller aisles, it’s indoor and you will be bumping into loads more people rather than just the ones in your row.

When you pass someone in the row do you intend to cough or sneeze in their face or is it more likely that you’ll turn your back to them as you squeeze past for that one second?


Then you'd just be facing the person on the other side.

Oh and Asda are currently enforcing a one way system, where you're also not allowed to pass somebody in the aisle.

Dunno about Tesco and other shops.

[matty_f]

It's not a daft suggestion but I struggle to see how it would be practically implemented.

What does 2m apart look like when in a stadium? By the time you dot people around at such a distance from eachother I'm not sure it'll be as big a number as 5,000 people that would get to go the game.

How do you deal with the start and end of the game with people using stairs, concourse, and entrance/exits at the same time - that's going to be significantly harder to manage than the average supermarket queue.

You need to remember it’d be a 2m radius between people as well. You really wouldn’t fit that many folk in.

[Sir David Gray]

Then you'd just be facing the person on the other side.

Oh and Asda are currently enforcing a one way system, where you're also not allowed to pass somebody in the aisle.

Dunno about Tesco and other shops.

Tesco are doing the same.

[Billy Whizz]

Tesco are doing the same.

Not all Tesco’s. Small ones like South Queensferry are, Corstorphine one isn’t like this

[PaulSmith]

Then you'd just be facing the person on the other side.

Oh and Asda are currently enforcing a one way system, where you're also not allowed to pass somebody in the aisle.

Dunno about Tesco and other shops.

So in the aisles no one overtakes anyone and it’s like lemmings going around lanes?

I think you really overplaying the risk to health. What about the people you walk past in the street!

[PaulSmith]

You need to remember it’d be a 2m radius between people as well. You really wouldn’t fit that many folk in.

Define many and is a few thousand not better than nothing?

What about the groups of families that live together, surely they don’t social distance when they walk into Easter Road...How many fall into that category?

[Keith_M]

So in the aisles no one overtakes anyone and it’s like lemmings going around lanes?

I think you really overplaying the risk to health. What about the people you walk past in the street!


I'm not overplaying or underplaying anything, I was merely responding to your comment about the situation in Tesco, etc, with some facts.

If you don't like those facts, that's for you to deal with. I have no agenda either way.

[The Modfather]

So in the aisles no one overtakes anyone and it’s like lemmings going around lanes?

I think you really overplaying the risk to health. What about the people you walk past in the street!

Regardless of the merits of the argument surely you can acknowledge that squeezing past someone in an aisle is different to overtaking someone in an aisle.

[PaulSmith]

OK guys.

I’ll bow out until the proposal is out and then you can pick the bones out of it.

[hibbysam]

A “Massive risk” like really massive?

Is the millions who will shop in Tesco, Sainsburys and Asda today also at massive risk. Surely the risk is actually greater with the smaller aisles, it’s indoor and you will be bumping into loads more people rather than just the ones in your row.

When you pass someone in the row do you intend to cough or sneeze in their face or is it more likely that you’ll turn your back to them as you squeeze past for that one second?

The aisles in Asda and Tesco etc are 2/3 metres wide and you can only travel in one direction. The aisles at Easter road are about 2ft wide and like I said it’s near impossible to pass someone without touching them, you don’t have to, nor should you be passing someone in a supermarket.

The big Asda’s also have a limit of 250 people entering at one time, meaning there is a far greater space for people to walk around in.

[we are hibs]

Not renewing until i know when we will be allowed into grounds. If its the 2nd half of the season ill either get a half season ticket or be a walk up for the remainder of the season. Not paying in and around £380-400 for potentially less than 10 games.

[Sir David Gray]

Not all Tesco’s. Small ones like South Queensferry are, Corstorphine one isn’t like this

Fair enough. My local Tesco had implemented these measures and I just assumed all Tesco stores had done the same.

[tamig]

I get the season ticket rotation thing might not be workable in practice but surely the rest of it isn’t any great hardship?

Have to wear masks- coming anyway so better get used to it.

No away fans- no big deal

No catering- eat before you go out

Limited people in the toilets at once- I suspect the pubs won’t be open then so the demand for toilets won’t be as high.

People volunteering to sit in the south- why would that bother you?

Entering through a gate rather than a turnstile- surely that’s not much of a hardship if it prevents the spread of the virus?

As others have mentioned its all about weighing up the costs v benefits. How much would it cost the club to implement these controls vs the income generated by a 3-4000 crowd? I think cost would sink any of these proposals alone.

[The 90+2]

As others have mentioned its all about weighing up the costs v benefits. How much would it cost the club to implement these controls vs the income generated by a 3-4000 crowd? I think cost would sink any of these proposals alone.

Makes it sound a crap day out also. You couldn’t even really celebrate a goal either.

[bingo70]

Makes it sound a crap day out also. You couldn’t even really celebrate a goal either.

Why not?

In terms of the 2 metre gap thing, building sites are opening soon, supermarket workers aren’t keeping a 2 metre gap and in August lots of other industries won’t be either.

It’s not ideal but at some point the economy has to get going again and we will need to try and make moves to get back to normality, that won’t happen at the flick of a switch, it’ll be a gradual process.

[The 90+2]

Why not?

In terms of the 2 metre gap thing, building sites are opening soon, supermarket workers aren’t keeping a 2 metre gap and in August lots of other industries won’t be either.

It’s not ideal but at some point the economy has to get going again and we will need to try and make moves to get back to normality, that won’t happen at the flick of a switch, it’ll be a gradual process.

It just isn’t appealing for me. Going to the football you lose a bit of self responsibility (well I do anyway) and it’s a distraction from real life for the afternoon,I would rather stay at home than sit at a quarter full stadium having to be over cautious (rightly as it would be). Just a personal feeling and there would be thousands of others that wouldn’t agree so it would probably work.

[GreenCastle]

https://www.gov.ie/en/news/58bc8b-taoiseach-announces-roadmap-for-reopening-society-and-business-and-u/


Pubs, nightclubs and casinos can re-open, where social distancing and strict cleaning can be complied with.
Festivals, events and other social and cultural mass gatherings can take place only in accordance with both indoor and outdoor numbers and where social distancing can be complied with.

Definitely worth a read and wonder if the U.K. will produce something similar.

Like others a Hibs ST is not about actually watching games - more making sure the club is ok financially.

[tamig]

Not all Tesco’s. Small ones like South Queensferry are, Corstorphine one isn’t like this

These shops have huge wide aisles though. I can’t believe some folk are putting up supermarket behaviour as an example as to how it could work inside a stadium - and actually suggesting the risks inside a supermarket could be greater. I think the whole thing is ludicrous.

Lets see what happens in Ireland - the wording from the government pages PS has kindly linked to are highly ambiguous. These are aspirations more than plans. The practicalities and finer detail will sink some of these suggestions before they ever come to light. All imo.

[Scouse Hibee]

So we have established,

1. Social distancing under current 2m guidelines would be impossible.

2. Any attempt at social distancing relating to seating arrangement would not be potentially viable.

3. The ST revenue will already be in so more cash to be paid, in fact a massive expense to man and implement procedures within the stadium.

4. We can’t trust football supporters to behave in a controlled manner, far too many are totally adverse to authority when at a football match.

5. We can’t control the element that would decide to be in the vicinity if they weren’t allowed in.

And so on.

I look forward to when we can all return to ER, until that happens nothing else will.

[bingo70]

It just isn’t appealing for me. Going to the football you lose a bit of self responsibility (well I do anyway) and it’s a distraction from real life for the afternoon,I would rather stay at home than sit at a quarter full stadium having to be over cautious (rightly as it would be). Just a personal feeling and there would be thousands of others that wouldn’t agree so it would probably work.

So from your perspective it’s pretty much all or nothing?

That’s Not a criticism, you’re not the only person to suggest that so it’s not an unreasonable view, I just don’t think it’s realistic.

There’s a working group looking into how we can get back to watching games again so I think the people that don’t want some sort of transitional period for a while will be disappointed.

I think football will be a bit ***** for the first wee while we’re back, won’t be forever though and it’ll be better than no football at all.

[The 90+2]

So from your perspective it’s pretty much all or nothing?

That’s Not a criticism, you’re not the only person to suggest that so it’s not an unreasonable view, I just don’t think it’s realistic.

There’s a working group looking into how we can get back to watching games again so I think the people that don’t want some sort of transitional period for a while will be disappointed.

I think football will be a bit ***** for the first wee while we’re back, won’t be forever though and it’ll be better than no football at all.

Pretty much, it just wouldn’t be the same and I wouldn’t enjoy it as much.

I generally agree with the rest of your post too, it’s just something I wouldn’t enjoy and I would rather someone who would enjoy it more get given the chance to go.

[PaulSmith]

So we have established,

1. Social distancing under current 2m guidelines would be impossible.

2. Any attempt at social distancing relating to seating arrangement would not be potentially viable.

3. The ST revenue will already be in so more cash to be paid, in fact a massive expense to man and implement procedures within the stadium.

4. We can’t trust football supporters to behave in a controlled manner, far too many are totally adverse to authority when at a football match.

5. We can’t control the element that would decide to be in the vicinity if they weren’t allowed in.

And so on.

I look forward to when we can all return to ER, until that happens nothing else will.

I'll email the SFA/SPFL Working Group and say not to bother meeting as Scouse Hibee said its impossible as he's read a few posts over a couple of hours on Hibs.Net. :thumbsup:

[matty_f]

Define many and is a few thousand not better than nothing?

What about the groups of families that live together, surely they don’t social distance when they walk into Easter Road...How many fall into that category?

Of course a few thousand would be better than nothing, I'm not saying it's impossible, just making the point that it's not just two metres apart in a row, behind and in front also needs to be considered.

I'd actually take high quality TV Hibs TV coverage for the games for my season ticket if the games were played behind closed doors. Would hope to get away games included in that as well, though - it would be good to see clubs pool resources like that for supporters.

[Scouse Hibee]

I'll email the SFA/SPFL Working Group and say not to bother meeting as Scouse Hibee said its impossible as he's read a few posts over a couple of hours on Hibs.Net. :thumbsup:

Cheers much appreciated 👍

[bingo70]

Of course a few thousand would be better than nothing, I'm not saying it's impossible, just making the point that it's not just two metres apart in a row, behind and in front also needs to be considered.

I'd actually take high quality TV Hibs TV coverage for the games for my season ticket if the games were played behind closed doors. Would hope to get away games included in that as well, though - it would be good to see clubs pool resources like that for supporters.

Matty, it’s 2 metres now, we’re not talking about returning now.

Do you not think it’s likely social restrictions will be lifted a bit and we’ll be finding a new way of living by August?

I don’t think the country can afford to still be at a stand still in August so we’re going to need to try and find solutions that allow us to live as safely as possible without being in the current lockdown environment.

I don’t think the government can afford to keep subsiding and supporting businesses until then so if everybody is back at work then the whole 2 metre separation thing simply won’t be practical any more.

[PaulSmith]

Cheers much appreciated 👍


There's already one member of that group actively viewing it as a Guest.:aok:

[inglisavhibs]

Not renewing until i know when we will be allowed into grounds. If its the 2nd half of the season ill either get a half season ticket or be a walk up for the remainder of the season. Not paying in and around £380-400 for potentially less than 10 games.
That's fair enough, many people can't afford to spend that money not knowing when games will return. Others see it a membership of Hibs, helping where they can financially when it's most needed. Most fans who have renewed or will be renewing soon will know the risks.

[Scouse Hibee]

There's already one member of that group actively viewing it as a Guest.:aok:

There will be no need for you to email them then! 👍

[inglisavhibs]

Matty, it’s 2 metres now, we’re not talking about returning now.

Do you not think it’s likely social restrictions will be lifted a bit and we’ll be finding a new way of living by August?

I don’t think the country can afford to still be at a stand still in August so we’re going to need to try and find solutions that allow us to live as safely as possible without being in the current lockdown environment.

I don’t think the government can afford to keep subsiding and supporting businesses until then so if everybody is back at work then the whole 2 metre separation thing simply won’t be practical any more.
In Australia it's 1.5m and Sweden 1m, if that were to happen here, would it make a difference? It's quite a while to August so hopefully things will be a bit better by then.

[PaulSmith]

“The two-metre social distancing rule is being reviewed by the Government in the hope that relaxing the restriction could allow more businesses and schools to reopen, The Daily Telegraph understands.

Ministers have asked the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage) to look again at whether people need to stay so far apart, amid growing evidence that coronavirus does not transmit well in the air.”

[PatHead]

That’s the bit I think I’m struggling to get across so thanks for chipping in. By the time August comes then things, all being well, will have significantly changed from as they are now.

Ireland has a phased approach to deal with exactly that.

Ireland had a lots stricter lockdown than we have. Not allowed more than 2km from your house. No tossers cycling 50 miles a day or ignoring social distancing spreading the virus.
Foot will be back when it is safe for it to return and not before. Let's just see what happens. I am sure Leeann will allow us back in good time.

[chippy]

Makes it sound a crap day out also. You couldn’t even really celebrate a goal either.

no shouting, singing, cheering, clapping

[chippy]

Thanks

If one accepts the principle that it's the Club that should recompense ST holders, which is fair, giving shares doesn't cost the Club any money.

It does, though, affect RG's situation, and I can't see that as being fair. His holding is diluted or reduced, and some ST's get a pie at the AGM 😁


To be clear I wasn’t making a distinction between our owner and the club. The last owner diluted his shareholding by selling shares to the fans and the money went to the club. I’m suggesting this could be a partial solution. The club has the money from 5000 it could well get another couple of thousand. In this way the club keeps the dough, Ron doesn’t have to bail us out too much, but yes his shareholding is diluted. I think that is eminently fair. Not saying he’ll do it of course but it is an option

[CropleyWasGod]

To be clear I wasn’t making a distinction between our owner and the club. The last owner diluted his shareholding by selling shares to the fans and the money went to the club. I’m suggesting this could be a partial solution. The club has the money from 5000 it could well get another couple of thousand. In this way the club keeps the dough, Ron doesn’t have to bail us out too much, but yes his shareholding is diluted. I think that is eminently fair. Not saying he’ll do it of course but it is an option

Fair enough 😀

If he does it, he deserves whatever praise comes his way

[ancient hibee]

I’m intrigued by all the posts with pretty convoluted means to achieve social distancing among spectators.Don’t see much about the players.Doesn’t social distancing apply to them or doesn’t their health matter?

[Keith_M]

I’m intrigued by all the posts with pretty convoluted means to achieve social distancing among spectators.Don’t see much about the players.Doesn’t social distancing apply to them or doesn’t their health matter?


They'll be wearing Burkas, so shouldn't be an issue.

[Sir David Gray]

Bradford suspend season ticket sales as they say they have been informed next season is 'highly likely' to be behind closed doors.

Not quite.

They've said it's "highly likely that next season will commence behind closed doors" and that their "officials have recently been informed of the ever-growing possibility of supporters being unable to attend matches until 2021."

It just means that they don't think fans will be allowed until at least January.

[DaveF]

Not quite.

They've said it's "highly likely that next season will commence behind closed doors" and that their "officials have recently been informed of the ever-growing possibility of supporters being unable to attend matches until 2021."

It just means that they don't think fans will be allowed until at least January.

Ah right. I just read the ticker on sky sports but without my goggles on I clearly didn't read it properly 🙂

[SteveHFC]

Just renewed mines.

[PaulSmith]

That wasn’t the deputy chief medical officer there saying that outdoor events are significantly less likely to transmit c19 was it?

I think she said that she was more worried about the meeting in a closed environment, like pubs, before or after a football match than the outdoor event itself.

Did anyone else catch it and clarify.

[Scouse Hibee]

I see some EPL players have expressed their concerns at playing games too soon, quite right too the players have every right to say no chance are we risking our lives and that of our families for a game of football.

Pretty much feel the same myself, there is no way I will return to work if I personally don’t feel that it’s safe to do so regardless of what decisions others make. I will decide for myself and will have no problem going against what is expected.

[inglisavhibs]

I see some EPL players have expressed their concerns at playing games too soon, quite right too the players have every right to say no chance are we risking our lives and that of our families for a game of football.

Pretty much feel the same myself, there is no way I will return to work if I personally don’t feel that it’s safe to do so regardless of what decisions others make. I will decide for myself and will have no problem going against what is expected.

Players and officials would all be tested prior to playing. At least that was mentioned for Germany's restart.

[B.H.F.C]

Players and officials would all be tested prior to playing. At least that was mentioned for Germany's restart.

Bundisliga can afford that though. Same as the Premier League will be able to. Not sure our clubs can cover the cost.

[Scouse Hibee]

After much deliberation I have just renewed my ST along with my laddie and bro in law so that’s three more for the count towards 6000. I feel a weight has been lifted! Just waiting for our protective suits to be delivered so we can actually use the tickets 😁

[hibbyfraelibby]

Of course it can happen. Certainly not with a full stadium but are you saying that say 3000 people cannot be socially distanced within Easter Rd.

1) look at stadium plan and work out numbers that it can accommodate

2) keep families together

3) create a one way system in the stadium

4) mark out 2 metres at kiosks etc

5) split up the tickets into groups..group one arrives at 2pm, group two at 2.20 etc etc

This is me thinking about it in 5 minutes. The experts have 12 weeks.

Entirely doable if you break it down and want it to happen

The deluded are multiplying during this lockdown

[matty_f]

Matty, it’s 2 metres now, we’re not talking about returning now.

Do you not think it’s likely social restrictions will be lifted a bit and we’ll be finding a new way of living by August?

I don’t think the country can afford to still be at a stand still in August so we’re going to need to try and find solutions that allow us to live as safely as possible without being in the current lockdown environment.

I don’t think the government can afford to keep subsiding and supporting businesses until then so if everybody is back at work then the whole 2 metre separation thing simply won’t be practical any more.

It might be different, depends on what the advice is at that point. Maybe attending wearing masks will be enough?

I want to go back to watching football s soon as we can, but current rules render that impossible. We just need to wait and see what happens.

[Keith_M]

It might be different, depends on what the advice is at that point. Maybe attending wearing masks will be enough?......


OMG, ERs gonna be filled with people dressed like this!



https://i1.wp.com/safeliving.wordpress.com/files/2007/12/goggle-jackets_opt.jpg

[CentreLine]

OMG, ERs gonna be filled with people dressed like this!



https://i1.wp.com/safeliving.wordpress.com/files/2007/12/goggle-jackets_opt.jpg

Even the players. It’s going to be hard to play football dressed like a gimp 🤣

[Gmack7]

Even the players. It’s going to be hard to play football dressed like a gimp 🤣

As proved by Hearts throughout the season

[Bobby's Cinema]

As proved by Hearts throughout the season
:hilarious:hilarious:hilarious yasss

[humptiedumptie]

CAN YOU HELP ? as my elderly pal wants to renew as an Early Bird but is internet clueless. Is or will there be a possibility of renewing via telephone. One possibility could be my registering his online account and paying for him and him handing over the cash. I`m reluctant to do so partly because I`ve changed from handling cash to contactless payments and 255 pounds cash lying around would be an encumbrance. If I were to register for him, would it go smoothly using my email address along with his personal details.

[wallpaperman]

CAN YOU HELP ? as my elderly pal wants to renew as an Early Bird but is internet clueless. Is or will there be a possibility of renewing via telephone. One possibility could be my registering his online account and paying for him and him handing over the cash. I`m reluctant to do so partly because I`ve changed from handling cash to contactless payments and 255 pounds cash lying around would be an encumbrance. If I were to register for him, would it go smoothly using my email address along with his personal details.

Does your pal have a debit/credit card that he is comfortable using?

If so, you could email the Hibs ticket office on his behalf, explain the situation and give them your pals phone number.

I am sure the ticket office folk working from home would be happy to phone him and take the debit card details over the phone. They are usually very good at responding to emails.

[Wilson]

OMG, ERs gonna be filled with people dressed like this!



https://i1.wp.com/safeliving.wordpress.com/files/2007/12/goggle-jackets_opt.jpg


At least Dashing Bob will be pleased at the improvement in people's attire.

[Scouse Hibee]

CAN YOU HELP ? as my elderly pal wants to renew as an Early Bird but is internet clueless. Is or will there be a possibility of renewing via telephone. One possibility could be my registering his online account and paying for him and him handing over the cash. I`m reluctant to do so partly because I`ve changed from handling cash to contactless payments and 255 pounds cash lying around would be an encumbrance. If I were to register for him, would it go smoothly using my email address along with his personal details.

You can do it for him using his debit card, just add his ST to your network and renew for him online using his debit card details.

I renewed mine last night using my own debit card and also renewed my son’s using his debit card details, he is in my network and registered under my email addresss, both confirmations were sent to me.

[RossScott1991]

Has there been any word from the club in regards to extending the period you can keep your seat?

[Billy Whizz]

Has there been any word from the club in regards to extending the period you can keep your seat?

It’s the 3rd June to keep your seat, early bird price/payment option is this Friday 5pm

[Sir David Gray]

Has there been any word from the club in regards to extending the period you can keep your seat?

According to Kieran Power (fans rep) it's under review by the club but considering the early bird and payment plan deadlines are in 5 days, I think it's increasingly unlikely that anything will happen with them.

The seat release deadline isn't until 4th June so it will probably be this deadline that they may end up extending but there's been no certainty about that so far.

[Leith Green]

I renewed mines more out of loyalty than expecting to definitely see all the games. Im not exactly flush with cash but feel the club really needs us to rally round if we can.

[hibbysam]

According to Kieran Power (fans rep) it's under review by the club but considering the early bird and payment plan deadlines are in 5 days, I think it's increasingly unlikely that anything will happen with them.

The seat release deadline isn't until 4th June so it will probably be this deadline that they may end up extending but there's been no certainty about that so far.

I think it’ll get extended but they’ll leave it late so that people who are in two minds will renew, wouldn’t make sense to extend it early.

[EH54]

6k hit

Unbelievable effort

[Col2]

It’s quite astonishing given all the other factors.

That’s 1000 in last 6 days. We are averaging 1k a week.

Not impossible to be at 10k by the end of May/1st week in June.

6k x av £250 = £1.5m

[Peevemor]

6k hit

Unbelievable effort

Yep - they've just put the animation with the names on Facebook.

Well done everyone. :not worth

[GreenCastle]

Thread needs updated.

I would expect 7,500 by Friday.

[PaulSmith]

What an effort from the fans. Astounding.

[Garymcl]

Brilliant effort again from us hibbys just love my club let’s keep this going rub salt into the preverbiale jambo wound they will be hating this :flag:

[Since452]

Hearts confirm 2000. Cute.

[Steven79]

The "big team" in Edinburgh have now sold over 2000...

[Scouse Hibee]

Amazing and spotted my name though can’t stop on it, too fast.

[GreenCastle]

The "big team" in Edinburgh have now sold over 2000...

Don’t believe anything they say.

Plus who wants to watch wee huns v Arbroath..

[GreenCastle]

Amazing and spotted my name though can’t stop on it, too fast.

On Twitter it’s a video. Just pause it.

Takes 5 seconds to do and then screen shot on phone.

[Scouse Hibee]

On Twitter it’s a video. Just pause it.

Takes 5 seconds to do and then screen shot on phone.

👍 I’m Twitterless. Will ask the laddie.

[Bobby's Cinema]

Blown away by that tbh think it’s an Incredible effort all things considered.

[Bishop Hibee]

Incredible stuff given no one knows when the season will start.

[wallpaperman]

6k hit

Unbelievable effort

Vastly overstating the real figures according to kickback.

So we are going to voluntarily pay more VAT in these stretched times for season tickets that we have not really sold. Morons. :idiot:

At least they are not trotting out the usual ‘all kids and students tickets’ line,yet.

[Onion]

Astonishing commitment by Hibs fans, given the circs.

Meanwhile, across the city....:greengrin

[Weir07]

👍 I’m Twitterless. Will ask the laddie.

If you click the link below, it should take you to it, you should be able to pause it roughly at your name (it's in alphabetical order) and just move the slider back and forward until you find it, a bit fiddly but shouldn't take long.

https://twitter.com/HibernianFC/status/1257689420477718530?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcam p%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

[Scouse Hibee]

If you click the link below, it should take you to it, you should be able to pause it roughly at your name (it's in alphabetical order) and just move the slider back and forward until you find it, a bit fiddly but shouldn't take long.

https://twitter.com/HibernianFC/status/1257689420477718530?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcam p%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

The laddie done it for me on Twitter and sent me a screenshot 5497 😁

[HibbyAndy]

Unbelievable figures :top marks

I know a few who have still to renew as well , Hibs class

[Tam]

3 Adults renewed yesterday🇳🇬🇳🇬🇳🇬

[Since90+2]

I see the wee team in Gorgie have sold 2000. Some fans abandoning their club in the time of need. Tramps.

[bod]

I see the wee team in Gorgie have sold 2000. Some fans abandoning their club in the time of need. Tramps.
Not bad considering they’re trying everything to stay in the top league .
Do they have anything like our early bird ?

[Scouse Hibee]

Not bad considering they’re trying everything to stay in the top league .
Do they have anything like our early bird ?

I think they have a 50% now and 50% later scheme.

[Since452]

I see the wee team in Gorgie have sold 2000. Some fans abandoning their club in the time of need. Tramps.

**** paying 400 quid to watch Alloa from a tin structure half open to the elements

[Weir07]

The laddie done it for me on Twitter and sent me a screenshot 5497 😁

Good stuff mate, I'm 5363! :aok:

[SquashedFrogg]

**** paying 400 quid to watch Alloa from a tin structure half open to the elements

Is it still pink? And will bus shelters be a 'thing' in 2021? That's my greatest concerns moving forward.

Asking for a hobo traveller friend.

[007 Mickey Weir]

Great sales. Well done everyone so far in these crazy times. Great effort.
As for Hearts they normally sell later than us. They will be on similar numbers by season start. Wherever they are.

[Steven79]

Great sales. Well done everyone so far in these crazy times. Great effort.
As for Hearts they normally sell later than us. They will be on similar numbers by season start. Wherever they are.Their numbers won't improve till Budge and Levein walk.

Sent from my SM-G960F using Tapatalk

[Col2]

BBC Sportsound new daily football podcast has Liam McLeod gushing about “Aberdeen almost up to 5k season tickets, incredible effort”. Did reference Hibs as “also doing well”..BBC website also running story re Aberdeen sales. That and the constant love in with Budge “she is doing a brilliant job”.

It’s almost like we don’t exist.

[Earlydelivery]

The Daily Ranger has gave us a great write up this morning on season ticket sales

[Keith_M]

I hate to be the one that 'defends' Hearts Fans, but their Season Tickets went on sale a lot later than ours. They were later last year as well and they sold nearly as many as we did.

I don't think the 2,000 figure is significant at all.

[danhibees1875]

I hate to be the one that 'defends' Hearts Fans, but their Season Tickets went on sale a lot later than ours. They were later last year as well and they sold nearly as many as we did.

I don't think the 2,000 figure is significant at all.

I think you're right. I'm sure there was a bit of gloating in previous years only for numbers to be about the same in the end.

Better just to focus on what a grand job we've done to get to 6k.

[bingo70]

I hate to be the one that 'defends' Hearts Fans, but their Season Tickets went on sale a lot later than ours. They were later last year as well and they sold nearly as many as we did.

I don't think the 2,000 figure is significant at all.

Their payment plan option isn’t available yet either apparently.

[CapitalGreen]

I hate to be the one that 'defends' Hearts Fans, but their Season Tickets went on sale a lot later than ours. They were later last year as well and they sold nearly as many as we did.

I don't think the 2,000 figure is significant at all.

I think I’ll just continue to rip into Hearts at every opportunity rather than look for reasons to excuse or defend them.

[rossevenil]

BBC Sportsound new daily football podcast has Liam McLeod gushing about “Aberdeen almost up to 5k season tickets, incredible effort”. Did reference Hibs as “also doing well”..BBC website also running story re Aberdeen sales. That and the constant love in with Budge “she is doing a brilliant job”.

It’s almost like we don’t exist.

Anti Hibs? Well yeah they quote how great Aberdeen are as having passed the 5000 sales mark (yet only yesterday they had sold 4800,how did they get an update so quickly?) and hearts as having 2000 STRONG SALES......but Hibs get some crap about up 12% but no mention that 12% equates to 6000 sales,why would you not go with that figure or does it humble hearts to much on the bbc sport website?

[Scouse Hibee]

I think I’ll just continue to rip into Hearts at every opportunity rather than look for reasons to excuse or defend them.

Except you can’t really rip anything until the season starts and the sales have finished. It would be the type of one upmanship that would be laughed at by Hearts fans and rightly so.

[CapitalGreen]

Except you can’t really rip anything until the season starts and the sales have finished. It would be the type of one upmanship that would be laughed at by Hearts fans and rightly so.

Lucky for me then that I don’t spend much time worrying what Hearts fans think. Better never mention 7-0 again in case Hearts beat us 8-0 in the future and their fans laugh at us.

[Scouse Hibee]

Lucky for me then that I don’t spend much time worrying what Hearts fans think. Better never mention 7-0 again in case Hearts beat us 8-0 in the future and their fans laugh at us.

Daft comparison but crack on, I get it that you’re one of those who forget about logic when concerned with all things Hearts.

[Since452]

I think you're right. I'm sure there was a bit of gloating in previous years only for numbers to be about the same in the end.

Better just to focus on what a grand job we've done to get to 6k.

To be fair I encourage any gloating directed towards them. They've laughed at our ST sales for years and called us the wee team etc so what goes around comes around. Immature? Probably, but football is the biggest pantomime around. We've outsold them albeit marginally for the last couple of season but outsold them all the same. In fact if they hadn't given Rangers 15k tickets and Aberdeen 8k at Murrayfield they'd have had a lower average attendance than us three seasons running. **** them. Not bad for a wee team they supposedly finished.

[CapitalGreen]

Daft comparison but crack on, I get it that you’re one of those who forget about logic when concerned with all things Hearts.

Thanks, I’ll leave you to worrying about the thoughts of Hearts fans.

[WhileTheChief..]

BBC Sportsound new daily football podcast has Liam McLeod gushing about “Aberdeen almost up to 5k season tickets, incredible effort”. Did reference Hibs as “also doing well”..BBC website also running story re Aberdeen sales. That and the constant love in with Budge “she is doing a brilliant job”.

It’s almost like we don’t exist.

What did they say about Livvi, or Celtic, or Kilmarnock?!

It’s like no one else existed, or maybe you’re being a little bit paranoid!!

[CMurdoch]

It’s quite astonishing given all the other factors.

That’s 1000 in last 6 days. We are averaging 1k a week.

Not impossible to be at 10k by the end of May/1st week in June.

6k x av £250 = £1.5m

After Friday sales will drop off before picking up a again just before the seat reservation deadline on the 3rd June. We might get a wee unexpected boost after that when the seats are released and new guys and gals take advantage of the good seats on offer that were not taken up by existing season ticket holders.

[Sir David Gray]

Finally decided to sign up today.

[Scouse Hibee]

Finally decided to sign up today.

👍

[Sir David Gray]

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Spent the last few days weighing everything up but I've got money there for it and definitely didn't want to give up my seat.

My view hasn't changed though, I still think there should be an extension, particularly to the seat release deadline and I would be disappointed if that doesn't happen.

[danhibees1875]

I see hearts have offered that any missed games in season 20/21 will be credited to a 21/22 ST purchase.

Gives good piece of mind and should get people signed up for 21/22 after failing to get promoted.

I wonder if we'd do anything similar but just haven't confirmed as such. :dunno:

[hibbyfraelibby]

Spent the last few days weighing everything up but I've got money there for it and definitely didn't want to give up my seat.

My view hasn't changed though, I still think there should be an extension, particularly to the seat release deadline and I would be disappointed if that doesn't happen.

Extending the seat reservation date is the least sensible option as that potentially blocks new sales and unlocking an additional revenue streams.

The ST offer went out in the midst of the crisis. The known unknowns were known (to quote VP Chenbey). People have to prioritise their own needs. If you can't or don't want to buy just now thats a personal choice but you were told what the options and timescales were up front and we all knew football wasn't happening any time soon.

[Coco Bryce]

I see hearts have offered that any missed games in season 20/21 will be credited to a 21/22 ST purchase.

Gives good piece of mind and should get people signed up for 21/22 after failing to get promoted.

I wonder if we'd do anything similar but just haven't confirmed as such. :dunno:

Have they. Fair play to them.

[mvteng]

I see hearts have offered that any missed games in season 20/21 will be credited to a 21/22 ST purchase.

Gives good piece of mind and should get people signed up for 21/22 after failing to get promoted.

I wonder if we'd do anything similar but just haven't confirmed as such. :dunno:

Link to the hearts guarantee https://www.heartsfc.co.uk/news/article/season-ticket-guarantee-pledge

I'll be honest. I havent updated our 3 season tickets yet, but if Hibs offered this, I'd renew them all tomorrow

[Brooster]

Extending the seat reservation date is the least sensible option as that potentially blocks new sales and unlocking an additional revenue streams.

The ST offer went out in the midst of the crisis. The known unknowns were known (to quote VP Chenbey). People have to prioritise their own needs. If you can't or don't want to buy just now thats a personal choice but you were told what the options and timescales were up front and we all knew football wasn't happening any time soon.

I'm glad you're not making the decisions regarding the deadlines. I'm sure Hibs will do the right thing and extend the dates.

[Scouse Hibee]

Extending the seat reservation date is the least sensible option as that potentially blocks new sales and unlocking an additional revenue streams.

The ST offer went out in the midst of the crisis. The known unknowns were known (to quote VP Chenbey). People have to prioritise their own needs. If you can't or don't want to buy just now thats a personal choice but you were told what the options and timescales were up front and we all knew football wasn't happening any time soon.

Regardless of when the offer went out loyal ST holders who have renewed continually for years have unexpected financial difficulties, the club need to recognise that and in my opinion they will.

[Sir David Gray]

Extending the seat reservation date is the least sensible option as that potentially blocks new sales and unlocking an additional revenue streams.

The ST offer went out in the midst of the crisis. The known unknowns were known (to quote VP Chenbey). People have to prioritise their own needs. If you can't or don't want to buy just now thats a personal choice but you were told what the options and timescales were up front and we all knew football wasn't happening any time soon.

Fair enough, you're entitled to your view and with every passing day, I'm becoming more inclined to think that Hibs agree with your stance.

Suffice to say I totally disagree and my reasons have been stated several times in recent weeks so I won't cover old ground.

[hibee_girl]

Hibs have extended the early bird deadline to the 4th June

[007 Mickey Weir]

Spent the last few days weighing everything up but I've got money there for it and definitely didn't want to give up my seat.

My view hasn't changed though, I still think there should be an extension, particularly to the seat release deadline and I would be disappointed if that doesn't happen.

New deadline is now 4th June

[Sir David Gray]

Fair enough, you're entitled to your view and with every passing day, I'm becoming more inclined to think that Hibs agree with your stance.

Suffice to say I totally disagree and my reasons have been stated several times in recent weeks so I won't cover old ground.

Might need to change that as I've just read that Hibs have extended the early bird deadline.

Fair play to them.

[Scouse Hibee]

As predicted well done Hibs another great decision.

[1 8 7 5]

BBC Sportsound new daily football podcast has Liam McLeod gushing about “Aberdeen almost up to 5k season tickets, incredible effort”. Did reference Hibs as “also doing well”..BBC website also running story re Aberdeen sales. That and the constant love in with Budge “she is doing a brilliant job”.

It’s almost like we don’t exist.

Your spot on Col2.

Often the Hibernian page has nothing but negative stories on it. Plucky hertz however....

[hibbyfraelibby]

I'm glad you're not making the decisions regarding the deadlines. I'm sure Hibs will do the right thing and extend the dates.

They have not extended the reservation date only the Early Bird. The Reservation date is the key datd because if you extend that you block new sales.

[EI255]

That's an unbelievable amount of ST sales!

3 x higher than the Budge's mob too. How sweet [emoji16]

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[Garymcl]

Absolutely brilliant from us let’s make it 7000 ASAP ggtth

[Coco Bryce]

Hibs have extended the early bird deadline to the 4th June

Where did you see this?

[Scouse Hibee]

Where did you see this?

Facebook
Twitter
Hibs Webite
Hibs.net

[hibee_girl]

Where did you see this?

Hibs Facebook page

[Eyrie]

The merit of holding my nerve.

I can wait until 3 June to renew which means I'll be in a better place financially when I do.

Kudos to those who have already renewed though.

[Coco Bryce]

Hibs Facebook page

Cheers :thumbsup:

[RyeSloan]

The merit of holding my nerve.

I can wait until 3 June to renew which means I'll be in a better place financially when I do.

Kudos to those who have already renewed though.

Hence the extension!!

Smart move from Hibs and aligning it to the seat release date makes perfect sense.

Two more sold tonight regardless though as I finally got around to doing mine [emoji106]

[Mcpakeisgod]

That’s incredible numbers . Just heard on bbc we’re 12% up on this time last year. During times like these it’s amazing support shown

[Sir David Gray]

That’s incredible numbers . Just heard on bbc we’re 12% up on this time last year. During times like these it’s amazing support shown

I don't think that's correct, we had sold more than 9500 by the end of April last year.

[Keith_M]

I don't think that's correct, we had sold more than 9500 by the end of April last year.


Do you have a link to where you got that info?

It just sounds a bit surprising, TBH.

[Phil MaGlass]

I see hearts have offered that any missed games in season 20/21 will be credited to a 21/22 ST purchase.

Gives good piece of mind and should get people signed up for 21/22 after failing to get promoted.

I wonder if we'd do anything similar but just haven't confirmed as such. :dunno:

The Dutch dont expect mass gatherings to go ahead for atleast another year in Holand.

[Sir David Gray]

Do you have a link to where you got that info?

It just sounds a bit surprising, TBH.

Yep straight from the horse's mouth - http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/9920

[B.H.F.C]

I don't think that's correct, we had sold more than 9500 by the end of April last year.

Season tickets had went on sale a month earlier last year. We’re tracking ahead of where we were, at the same point of sales, in comparison to last year.

[Sir David Gray]

Season tickets had went on sale a month earlier last year. We’re tracking ahead of where we were, at the same point of sales, in comparison to last year.

Nah they didn't - they went on sale on 19th March last season. http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/9777

They went on sale on 27th March this year so one week later and the 9500 figure was one week on from this time last year so exactly the same point.

[B.H.F.C]

Nah they didn't - they went on sale on 19th March last season. http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/9777

They went on sale on 27th March this year so one week later and the 9500 figure was one week on from this time last year so exactly the same point.

The date on that article isn’t the original date they were launched last year, it was 7th of March, so it was actually three weeks earlier as opposed to the month I mentioned originally.

I can’t remember where I read the bit about us tracking ahead of last year. I think it was maybe in one of Ron or Leeann’s recent comments or maybe Hibs had just tweeted it.

[Sir David Gray]

The date on that article isn’t the original date they were launched last year, it was 7th of March, so it was actually three weeks earlier as opposed to the month I mentioned originally.

I can’t remember where I read the bit about us tracking ahead of last year. I think it was maybe in one of Ron or Leeann’s recent comments or maybe Hibs had just tweeted it.

My apologies, that's correct. :aok:

So we have about 2 weeks to buy around 4000 season tickets. I still don't see that happening but that's not taking anything away from our current numbers, the situation is vastly different to last year's campaign.

[we are hibs]

They have not extended the reservation date only the Early Bird. The Reservation date is the key datd because if you extend that you block new sales.

This isnt true no matter how many times you repeat it. Theres plenty available seats for new season ticket holders to buy.

[MWHIBBIES]

I think Hibs will limit ST sales very shortly to allow them to comply with social distancing measures when the season starts in August.


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Never going to happen. Will be full stadiums or not fans at all. What about toilets? Kiosks? What if there is a fire? Are we to walk out 2 meters apart?

[Scouse Hibee]

Never going to happen. Will be full stadiums or not fans at all. What about toilets? Kiosks? What if there is a fire? Are we to walk out 2 meters apart?

I don’t think it will happen either but I doubt fire evacuation would ever come into thinking anyway, no venue with multiple people in could guarantee a socially distanced evacuation including supermarkets and large DIY stores.

[calumhibee1]

It may have already been mentioned, but how are other teams getting on with their sales?

[Since90+2]

I don’t think it will happen either but I doubt fire evacuation would ever come into thinking anyway, no venue with multiple people in could guarantee a socially distanced evacuation including supermarkets and large DIY stores.

Agreed. The importance of a quick and safe fire evacuation would supersede any concerns over social distancing if an emergency evac was to happen.

[007 Mickey Weir]

It may have already been mentioned, but how are other teams getting on with their sales?

Aberdeen about 5k
Hearts 2k but started selling well behind us and payment plan not started yet
Motherwell sales well up on last year

Sounds like a lot of fans are paying early to help clubs

[Keith_M]

Yep straight from the horse's mouth - http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/9920


Cheers


EDIT: I should have read the other posts...

:)

[Steven79]

Aberdeen about 5k
Hearts 2k but started selling well behind us and payment plan not started yet
Motherwell sales well up on last year

Sounds like a lot of fans are paying early to help clubsIt should be noted that Aberdeen stuck their tickets on well before us.

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[JohnMcM]

It should be noted that Aberdeen stuck their tickets on well before us.

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Thank you. Duly noted. :greengrin

[oneone73]

Finally renewed. Now let's see if we get a season.

[The Harp Awakes]

Finally renewed. Now let's see if we get a season.

Just renewed today too. Was always going to at some point, but Hibs again doing the right thing by extending the early bird discount was the spur for me to commit.

I've been a critic at times in the past, but I've been very impressed by the way the club have conducted themselves in recent weeks. Exemplary:not worth

Just don't vote to save Hearts in any shape or form, or I'll be demanding a refund :greengrin

[bookert]

Thats my two tickets renewed. Did agonise about it for a couple of weeks , given that I have underlying health condition and unsure when Ill next see a game. But hey ho

[HibbyAndy]

Thats my two tickets renewed. Did agonise about it for a couple of weeks , given that I have underlying health condition and unsure when Ill next see a game. But hey ho

good man :aok:

[Vault Boy]

Thats my two tickets renewed. Did agonise about it for a couple of weeks , given that I have underlying health condition and unsure when Ill next see a game. But hey ho

That's an admirable commitment. 👏

[Garymcl]

Wouldn’t it be so sweet if we announced hitting the 7000 mark over the weekend just after hearing the news about our pink chums pure Carl’sberg weekend that would be Ggtth :flag:

[Keith_M]

Wouldn’t it be so sweet if we announced hitting the 7000 mark over the weekend just after hearing the news about our pink chums pure Carl’sberg weekend that would be Ggtth :flag:


They should make a special announcement when we reach 7070 ticket sales.

[Since452]

They should make a special announcement when we reach 7070 ticket sales.

Something along the lines of "Edinburgh's premier football destination".

[PatHead]

They should make a special announcement when we reach 7070 ticket sales.

Strictly speaking it should have been at 0707.Would settle for 6262 or 6207 though.

[green with envy]

Also just renewed as has my 2 lads that I go with every week.

[660]

Something along the lines of "Edinburgh's premier football destination".

I wouldn’t get too cocky. I read somewhere that their manager finished above our manager in some other league :(

[PH91]

Strictly speaking it should have been at 0707.Would settle for 6262 or 6207 though.

I wonder how many .netters pin codes you have noted there. Haha.

[Col2]

7000 now confirmed by club 👍👍👍

[Booked4Being-Ugly]

7000 now confirmed by club 👍👍👍

In the current circumstances, that’s superb.

[calumhibee1]

Superb.

[MurrayfieldHibs]

https://twitter.com/HibernianFC/status/1259757223582093312

:flag::thumbsup::flag:

[jeffers]

I keep expecting the numbers to slow, but that’s amazing. Well done to every Hibby who has renewed, I haven’t yet, but expect I will before the new deadline passes. Anyone know what corresponding numbers were this time last year ?

[Ozyhibby]

I keep expecting the numbers to slow, but that’s amazing. Well done to every Hibby who has renewed, I haven’t yet, but expect I will before the new deadline passes. Anyone know what corresponding numbers were this time last year ?

No idea about last years figures but I think that is selling 7000 season tickets at this stage when it’s likely that games may be played behind closed doors is ridiculously good news and shows the loyalty of the fans and the willingness to back the current management of the club.
I haven’t bought mine but will do the minute lockdown ends and I know things are getting better. No idea how many games I’ll get out of it but know the money will be well spent by the club.
Amazing effort by the fans.[emoji106]


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[PatHead]

I keep expecting the numbers to slow, but that’s amazing. Well done to every Hibby who has renewed, I haven’t yet, but expect I will before the new deadline passes. Anyone know what corresponding numbers were this time last year ?

9,500 at the end of April. Not matched that but still an outstanding return. With tickets costing more than last season we will have a higher average purchase price.

[BoomtownHibees]

9,500 at the end of April. Not matched that but still an outstanding return. With tickets costing more than last season we will have a higher average purchase price.

Tickets went on sale 3 weeks earlier last year though so we are on track to get close to that same number if sales continue on this trend

[Sir David Gray]

Tickets went on sale 3 weeks earlier last year though so we are on track to get close to that same number if sales continue on this trend

They did but we're now almost 2 weeks past the end of April so we would need to get another 2500 sold in the next week to hit that which I think is unlikely.

Still highly impressive given the circumstances though.

[The Spaceman]

A couple of weeks ago, I thought if we could get to 8,000 that would be absolutely outstanding. Now 8,000 probably looks conservative. Pretty incredible given that each of those 7,000 so far do not know when a ball will next be kicked. See it as an investment - Hibs could come out of this as one of the strongest teams in the land given other teams will not have the backing we are currently getting.

That is true support. :aok:

[weecounty hibby]

I thought I read that we were 12% ahead of the comparable time last year. Can't be bothered checking release dates or working it out but I saw it reported somewhere

[Sir David Gray]

I thought I read that we were 12% ahead of the comparable time last year. Can't be bothered checking release dates or working it out but I saw it reported somewhere

It was on here last week as someone said the BBC was reporting it.

Maybe we were at the time but we were 3 weeks later this year in putting our season tickets on sale and by the end of April last year we had sold 9500. The equivalent week this year would be next week so we'll need to sell around 2500 in the next week to match last year and I think by the start of June last year we had sold over 11000.