Levein Sacked

[Sergio sledge]

Anne Budge certainly takes her time with appointments, possibly down to her not knowing much about football which is why a director of football is probably so important for her. She pinned her colours to the wrong mast with Levein though...

She/Levein took less than a week to choose Cathro and that was a massive failure, she/Levein took 4 weeks to pick Levein and that was a massive failure, they've now taken more than a month to choose this guy, who knows whether that will be a failure or a success.

Contrast that with Leeann and Craig/Mathie, they took 2 weeks to get Stubbs, a week to get Lennon, 2 weeks to get Heckingbottom and less than 2 weeks to get Ross.

[FilipinoHibs]

Is he not actually on gardening leave, which is still under contract and employed?

That is how it works. They will be running it to the end of his contract. If he wants to work for another club they will have to repay the remainder of his contract. Sacking the existing staff, paying for the new manager and his staff and buying the manager's old contract will be very costly for Budge. You would do it for the right candidate but this is not him. This is not going to play out well on and off the field for them.

[Kato]

This is not going to play out well on and off the field for them.

Ssshh.

[ancient hibee]

Stendel is unemployed so the only compensation is his salary.

He's not unemployed.He's contracted to Barnsley.That is what the delay is all about.They want money to release him.

[Peevemor]

He's not unemployed.He's contracted to Barnsley.That is what the delay is all about.They want money to release him.

Because he must be holding out for his compensation.

[Keith_M]

He's not unemployed.He's contracted to Barnsley.That is what the delay is all about.They want money to release him.


Surely if they want rid and he wants to work for somebody else, it should be quite straightforward.

:dunno:

[FilipinoHibs]

Surely if they want rid and he wants to work for somebody else, it should be quite straightforward.

:dunno:

Problem is he is due the remainder of his two years on his contract. He was probably offered a pay off but held out for full salary. Hearts must now buy his contract out from Barnsley. Barnsley chairman not budging (no pun intentended). Reported in papers willing to go to court. This is getting messy.

[Steven79]

Problem is he is due the remainder of his two years on his contract. He was probably offered a pay off but held out for full salary. Hearts must now buy his contract out from Barnsley. Barnsley chairman not budging (no pun intentended). Reported in papers willing to go to court. This is getting messy.

Imagine if after all this that he turns out to be ***** and gets sacked after less than a year. :cb

[NC1875]

Barnsley chairman knows if he stands firm one there “mystery” benefactors will stump up the cash.

Will end up costing them a small fortune for an absolute nobody.

Big name you said Budge!!!

[Bostonhibby]

Barnsley chairman knows if he stands firm one there “mystery” benefactors will stump up the cash.

Will end up costing them a small fortune for an absolute nobody.

Big name you said Budge!!!Or they could maybe tap further into the FOH cash?

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[PaulSmith]

The German boy has Budge over a barrel. It’s going to cost the best part of a million quid to get him and his team in plus pay off the deadwood like Fox, Daly and McPhee.

This is for a guy with zero experience of Scottish football, has managed a grand total of 100 games in his career and got battered by Joey Barton.

[I'm Spartacus]

I've always wondered why clubs carry on paying a manager with multiple years of their contract left, haha now I only just get it! If somebody wants them then the contract payments stop and even in some cases compo can be received - genius!

[Oscar T Grouch]

BBC reporting it as Hearts having offered him the job. You’d assume they’d wait til he’d accepted before going to press? Or I’m I reading too much into the story. Would be really embarrassing if he didn’t accept it at this stage 😃
First German manager to work in Scotland since Bertie?

[FilipinoHibs]

BBC reporting it as Hearts having offered him the job. You’d assume they’d wait til he’d accepted before going to press? Or I’m I reading too much into the story. Would be really embarrassing if he didn’t accept it at this stage 😃
First German manager to work in Scotland since Bertie?

Jambo Brian McLaughlin reporting and trying to bring some cheer to the story.

[Cataplana]

Or they could maybe tap further into the FOH cash?

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Can't do that, they need it to buy out the Budgie.

[Bostonhibby]

Can't do that, they need it to buy out the Budgie.She can ask them to divert it, again[emoji16]

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[Jim44]

BBC reporting it as Hearts having offered him the job. You’d assume they’d wait til he’d accepted before going to press? Or I’m I reading too much into the story. Would be really embarrassing if he didn’t accept it at this stage 😃
First German manager to work in Scotland since Bertie?

I don’t think there’s much likelihood of him turning them down, as they will have probably met his demands to a large degree. The amusing thing for me is, now that they seem to have their man, a fairly big lobby on KB is rooting for Harry Potter to get the Sporting Director job. What’s more, if you can believe what you read over there, he was the the guy who took Stendel on a tour of the PB and Riccarton. Comedy gold,if true.

[SouthMoroccoStu]

I don’t think there’s much likelihood of him turning them down, as they will have probably met his demands to a large degree. The amusing thing for me is, now that they seem to have their man, a fairly big lobby on KB is rooting for Harry Potter to get the Sporting Director job. What’s more, if you can believe what you read over there, he was the the guy who took Stendel on a tour of the PB and Riccarton. Comedy gold,if true.

That's mental/they're mental

They honestly never learn

[Jones28]

BBC reporting it as Hearts having offered him the job. You’d assume they’d wait til he’d accepted before going to press? Or I’m I reading too much into the story. Would be really embarrassing if he didn’t accept it at this stage 😃
First German manager to work in Scotland since Bertie?

I imagine levels of grovelling on a par with Neville chamberlain talking to Hitler.

[JimBHibees]

I don’t think there’s much likelihood of him turning them down, as they will have probably met his demands to a large degree. The amusing thing for me is, now that they seem to have their man, a fairly big lobby on KB is rooting for Harry Potter to get the Sporting Director job. What’s more, if you can believe what you read over there, he was the the guy who took Stendel on a tour of the PB and Riccarton. Comedy gold,if true.

Read that as fairly big jobby :greengrin

[Stuart93]

He’s Shakespeare compared to the bollocks you’re spouting. 👍

Just read the article, jumped the gun after a few sherries last night. Talks perfect sense.

[wallpaperman]

Sounds like this is going to cost the mystery benefactor a pretty packet.

- pay Levein the rest of his contract (think to the end of this season?)
- pay off the current Hearts coaching staff as sounds like Stendel insisting on his own coaching staff
- pay Barnsley compensation, which they seem pretty confident they are entitled to.
- Stendel’s wages, demands rumoured to be £12k per week
- Stendel’s two coaches may not be cheap.

Anything I’ve missed?

On the positive for them, there seems to be some wild rumour that Man City are going to pay a lot of money for Hickey and loan him back to Hearts. Why would they want someone like that, they must have kids in their system miles better. Not saying he has no promise, but he looks like he’s miles off the pace of our league at the moment.

[CapitalGreen]

Sounds like this is going to cost the mystery benefactor a pretty packet.

- pay Levein the rest of his contract (think to the end of this season?)
- pay off the current Hearts coaching staff as sounds like Stendel insisting on his own coaching staff
- pay Barnsley compensation, which they seem pretty confident they are entitled to.
- Stendel’s wages, demands rumoured to be £12k per week
- Stendel’s two coaches may not be cheap.

Anything I’ve missed?

On the positive for them, there seems to be some wild rumour that Man City are going to pay a lot of money for Hickey and loan him back to Hearts. Why would they want someone like that, they must have kids in their system miles better. Not saying he has no promise, but he looks like he’s miles off the pace of our league at the moment.

A lot of money for a guy who been binned from his previous 2 jobs after just over a year.

[Aldo]

That's mental/they're mental

They honestly never learn

Good.

If Potter stays it means he’ll meddle and stick his neb in constantly. Wonder if he’ll have final say on players incoming and outgoing?? I hope so.

It’s superb and you couldn’t make it up.


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[oneone73]

Latest story from a Hearts source with connections to the bookmaking fraternity.Levein has a gambling problem and also is a member of a horse owning syndicate.Budge has twice bailed him out with personal loans.The second one is being repaid by salary deductions with final repayment in May(the end of his contract).Might be a load of cobblers of course but he has no reason to make up a story to me as he knows I couldn’t care less who the manager is.

Pretty defamatory statement to put out there. I'd want to be sure of the facts if I were you.

[Bostonhibby]

I don’t think there’s much likelihood of him turning them down, as they will have probably met his demands to a large degree. The amusing thing for me is, now that they seem to have their man, a fairly big lobby on KB is rooting for Harry Potter to get the Sporting Director job. What’s more, if you can believe what you read over there, he was the the guy who took Stendel on a tour of the PB and Riccarton. Comedy gold,if true.Probably took him on a tour of murrayfield and the castle as well, they think they own them too.

He'll get first go at buying the Forth Road Bridge if he saves them from relegation.

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[Treadstone]

Probably took him on a tour of murrayfield and the castle as well, they think they own them too.

He'll get first go at buying the Forth Road Bridge if he saves them from relegation.

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Queensferry Crossing mate.

[Bostonhibby]

Queensferry Crossing mate.[emoji106]

Aye, that as well[emoji16]

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[Since452]

Just read the article, jumped the gun after a few sherries last night. Talks perfect sense.

We've all done it 👍

[hibees 7062]

She can ask them to divert it, again[emoji16]

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Ask ?

[Bostonhibby]

Ask ?[emoji16]

Tell, manipulate, whatever she decided when they were diverted the last time.

What next?

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[heretoday]

Heck recommended Hearts to this guy? That's not a good sign.:greengrin

[we are hibs]

Budge and Levein were in Manchester last week trying to punt that Hickey to man city

[jacomo]

BBC reporting it as Hearts having offered him the job. You’d assume they’d wait til he’d accepted before going to press? Or I’m I reading too much into the story. Would be really embarrassing if he didn’t accept it at this stage 😃
First German manager to work in Scotland since Bertie?


Ooh ooh ooh Banderson is here as well and says Hearts have offered Stendel job and likely to be confirmed in next 48hrs just the small matter of his two assistants plus compensation to Barnsley to be agreed.

He will getting his info straight from the horse’s mouth.

A very expensive option. Big Team delusions (and a seemingly inexhaustible benefactor honey pot).

[Brightside]

Just read the article, jumped the gun after a few sherries last night. Talks perfect sense.

:aok:

[NadeAteMyLunch!]

Budge and Levein were in Manchester last week trying to punt that Hickey to man city

Before clubs down south work out that he is Cochrane mk2?

[Brightside]

Pretty defamatory statement to put out there. I'd want to be sure of the facts if I were you.

Im aware of 2 rails bookies who no longer take his bets.

[JimBHibees]

Budge and Levein were in Manchester last week trying to punt that Hickey to man city

Was that the same Hickey 36 year old Chris Burke humiliated last week to the extent he was subbed at half time. Hugely overrated.

[hibees 7062]

She can ask them to divert it, again[emoji16]

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Ask ?

[jacomo]

Pretty defamatory statement to put out there. I'd want to be sure of the facts if I were you.


Probably for the best. Juicy gossip though.

[The 90+2]

Heck recommended Hearts to this guy? That's not a good sign.:greengrin

It’s a perfect sign 😉

[I'm Spartacus]

Budge and Levein were in Manchester last week trying to punt that Hickey to man city


Maybe going for a paternity test, they 2 must have a love child somewhere.

[wallpaperman]

Maybe going for a paternity test, they 2 must have a love child somewhere.

I now have an image in my head that is not easily going to go away......

[Coco Bryce]

BBC Sportsound is comedy gold just now. Pundits not sure why Hearts are going for Stendl.

Everybody and their dug knew he was on Gardening leave with Barnsley but 'Breaking News' tonight the deal has hit a stumbling block with news than compensation would be required to Barnsley,

:LOL::LOL:

[FilipinoHibs]

Ooh ooh ooh Banderson is here as well and says Hearts have offered Stendel job and likely to be confirmed in next 48hrs just the small matter of his two assistants plus compensation to Barnsley to be agreed.

He will getting his info straight from the horse’s mouth.

A very expensive option. Big Team delusions (and a seemingly inexhaustible benefactor honey pot).

So nothing much to get sorted😳

[Billy Whizz]

Austin on Sportsound just now, talking his usual rubbish
Did I hear him say that Hearts haven’t beaten Rangers at Hampden since 1874? Surely not

[Coco Bryce]

Did Nanny just have a gig at Hibs? I missed it but heard Derek Ferguson saying he should get his own house in order before having a dig at anyone else.

He obsessed just like speccy was.

[Keith_M]

Problem is he is due the remainder of his two years on his contract. He was probably offered a pay off but held out for full salary. Hearts must now buy his contract out from Barnsley. Barnsley chairman not budging (no pun intentended). Reported in papers willing to go to court. This is getting messy.


Cheers, that makes sense.

Funny if true :-)

[Sammy7nil]

BBC Sportsound is comedy gold just now. Pundits not sure why Hearts are going for Stendl.

Everybody and their dug knew he was on Gardening leave with Barnsley but 'Breaking News' tonight the deal has hit a stumbling block with news than compensation would be required to Barnsley,

:LOL::LOL:
Yeah Ferguson very sceptical keeps going back to the fact he lost ten games in a row before he was sacked.


Austin on Sportsound just now, talking his usual rubbish
Did I hear him say that Hearts haven’t beaten Rangers at Hampden since 1874? Surely not

That's what I thought he said too :greengrin surely 1974 though?


Did Nanny just have a gig at Hibs? I missed it but heard Derek Ferguson saying he should get his own house in order before having a dig at anyone else.

He obsessed just like speccy was.

He said he was aware what was happening at Hibs (3 wins and draw) since Hecky left and fans would be aware also BUT Hibs have had a favourable run of games :greengrin

[Barney McGrew]

He said he was aware what was happening at Hibs (3 wins and draw) since Hecky left and fans would be aware also BUT Hibs have had a favourable run of games :greengrin

Last league four games we’ve both played St Johnstone Killie and St Mirren. The only difference is they played The Rangers and we played Motherwell, and we each played one cheek in the semis of the Betfred. So pretty much the same set of fixtures.

He’s on the glue.

[davym7062]

Did Nanny just have a gig at Hibs? I missed it but heard Derek Ferguson saying he should get his own house in order before having a dig at anyone else.

He obsessed just like speccy was.

he basically said hearts had 2 games in Glasgow v rangers so that's why they took there time getting a new manager coz they would get humped. hibs had 3 easy games so were quicker to appoint JR. the mans a trumpet

[scoopyboy]

Austin on Sportsound just now, talking his usual rubbish
Did I hear him say that Hearts haven’t beaten Rangers at Hampden since 1874? Surely not

Billy, I can't recall Hearts beating Rangers at Hampden.

Haven't beaten them in a League Cup Final or Scottish Cup Final.

If they had beaten them in a semi final at Hampden then they would have been in a final, certainly not in the 1970s.

[Hibees1973]

Hearts have never, repeat, never beaten Rangers at Hampden. FACT.

[tamig]

Billy, I can't recall Hearts beating Rangers at Hampden.

Haven't beaten them in a League Cup Final or Scottish Cup Final.

If they had beaten them in a semi final at Hampden then they would have been in a final, certainly not in the 1970s.
I thought the cup final in 98 but forgot that was Parkhead.

[cabbageandribs1875]

that's a terribly shocking record for such a huge club...we should sing songs about how rank they really are



big team lol

[tamig]

that's a terribly shocking record for such a huge club...we should sing songs about how rank they really are



big team lol

We’ve beaten the hun at Hampden on quite a few occasions but our record against Celtic there is dire.

[BILLYHIBS]

Sounds like everything Budgie touches turns to F#%k Up!

[Jim44]

They seem to be giving it the big ‘natürliche reihenfolge’ on KB, because of a tenuous link to some German geezer and a high profile (:faf:) failed employee. Can’t see the connection myself but as long as they’re happy. It’ll be a relief for them to get some sort of order into their pathetic existence. I’ve a suspicion that this order might not be too natural tomorrow night.

[Coco Bryce]

The desperation to get this guy is cringey. All the press are talking about it like it's a done deal.

I'll actually piss my pants if he knocks them back or they can't agree compo.

[RyeSloan]

We’ve beaten the hun at Hampden on quite a few occasions but our record against Celtic there is dire.

Funny I was reading the (rightful) laughing at hearts record against der Hun and immediately thought that our record against Celtic there must be almost as bad!

[Billy Whizz]

Billy, I can't recall Hearts beating Rangers at Hampden.

Haven't beaten them in a League Cup Final or Scottish Cup Final.

If they had beaten them in a semi final at Hampden then they would have been in a final, certainly not in the 1970s.

Scoopyboy, he did say it. Maybe you’ve confirmed it’s true🤣
What a stat to bring up in a press conference, to try and justify a 5-0 defeat

[scoopyboy]

We’ve beaten the hun at Hampden on quite a few occasions but our record against Celtic there is dire.

Apart from a run of three games in a row with Turnbulls Tornadoes (Dryburgh Cup, League Cup, Dryburgh Cup) I cant think of another in my 50 odd years of watching Hibs

[hibbyfraelibby]

So whois the German team that has (allegedly) made an offer to some German bloke to manage them that St. (Charlie) Endel needs another 24hrs to weigh up his options...and is this interest germain to their plight?

[Cataplana]

So whois the German team that has (allegedly) made an offer to some German bloke to manage them that St. (Charlie) Endel needs another 24hrs to weigh up his options...and is this interest germain to their plight?

Budgie reunited with Charlie Endell. I never saw that coming.

[Sammy7nil]

Scoopyboy, he did say it. Maybe you’ve confirmed it’s true🤣
What a stat to bring up in a press conference, to try and justify a 5-0 defeat

Hearts beat Rangers in a 1990's cup final McCoist denied an absolute stonewaller latte in the game after Hearts were awarded a pen for a foul outside the box in the first half:rolleyes:

[hibbyfraelibby]

Budgie reunited with Charlie Endell. I never saw that coming.

Remember the cossack hats? Watch out for a resugence in sheepskin jacket wearing at the PBS...they look quite fashionable when driving a Montego Estate.

[oneone73]

Hearts beat Rangers in a 1990's cup final McCoist denied an absolute stonewaller latte in the game after Hearts were awarded a pen for a foul outside the box in the first half:rolleyes:

Was that not at Parkhead?

[scoopyboy]

Hearts beat Rangers in a 1990's cup final McCoist denied an absolute stonewaller latte in the game after Hearts were awarded a pen for a foul outside the box in the first half:rolleyes:

That was Parkhead though and not Hampden

[Hibs4185]

Not because I think he will turn them into world beaters, but please please let Stendel turn them down after their sheer desperation to get him. Even after being offered big bucks The guy is obviously trying his hardest to find something better but keeping hearts as a backup plan.

shambles of a club

[Coco Bryce]

Not because I think he will turn them into world beaters, but please please let Stendel turn them down after their sheer desperation to get him. Even after being offered big bucks The guy is obviously trying his hardest to find something better but keeping hearts as a backup plan.

shambles of a club

He'll be pushing for a clause in his contract as soon as a big club comes in for him he can jump ship.

[Deansy]

Sounds like this is going to cost the mystery benefactor a pretty packet.

- pay Levein the rest of his contract (think to the end of this season?)
- pay off the current Hearts coaching staff as sounds like Stendel insisting on his own coaching staff
- pay Barnsley compensation, which they seem pretty confident they are entitled to.
- Stendel’s wages, demands rumoured to be £12k per week
- Stendel’s two coaches may not be cheap.

Anything I’ve missed?

On the positive for them, there seems to be some wild rumour that Man City are going to pay a lot of money for Hickey and loan him back to Hearts. Why would they want someone like that, they must have kids in their system miles better. Not saying he has no promise, but he looks like he’s miles off the pace of our league at the moment.

So, how much is that now, that this 'Mystery benefactor' has *****ed into these clowns since they escaped justice by not going extinct - £10-12m ??. How-the-**** are they allowed to operate with money that is, in all reality, un-traceable ?. I thought that after the Hun fraud there was new stringent fiscal rules introduced and one of them was that clubs had to prove how and where their funding was coming from ??. ****-all's changed with these low-life - still playing with 'Other People's Money' and not within their own financial capabilities !

[Jim44]

Amid all the crud of KB in their crusade to get a manager, I enjoyed this sense of humour:

To prove my itk status:
. If Daniel Stendel takes over, he will insist on taking charge of 1st team matters.
. Ann has agreed that his initials will always be referred to as "DS" on any internal documentation and not "SD" or any other variant.
. Daniel takes artificial sweetener with his coffee, and he was adamant that this be written into his contract as sugar in his hot drinks is a definite no-go. A significant period of time was spent on finding the correct legal phrasing, in both English and German, that would prevent even the accidental use of sugar in his coffee.
. He has been interviewed. More than one person and less than nine people were present at the meeting, and it took place in one of the constituent countries of the UK within the last 3 weeks.
. Much time was spent on Daniel's insistence that the corners at Tynecastle be filled if he becomes manager of Hearts. It took a great deal of explaining to him before he could be persuaded that technically this was nigh on impossible. Negotiations almost broke down at this point, but were re-ignited when the alternative of hanging nets of supporters from the floodlights was suggested and enthusiastically welcomed.

[Gloucester Hibs]

The desperation to get this guy is cringey. All the press are talking about it like it's a done deal.

I'll actually piss my pants if he knocks them back or they can't agree compo.

They HAVE to appoint him now. If he didn’t have them over a barrel before he does now! I’d be telling them the price of his services has just increased - £20k per week! 🤑

[Joe6-2]

Cheers, that makes sense.

Funny if true :-)

Oh I really hope it is true

[bingo70]

Daily mail journalist just tweeted this-

“Hearts have been in touch with Barnsley today re Daniel Stendel compensation issue. Nothing resolved yet.”

[Jim44]

I don’t think there’s the slightest doubt that he’s going to sign for them, but for us indifferent and disrespectful onlookers, the whole process has been hilarious, clumsy, uncertain and speculative. I am really relieved that the shoe wasn’t on the other foot. In the space of three weeks they have knocked their credibility back three years at least.

[Joe6-2]

I don’t think there’s the slightest doubt that he’s going to sign for them, but for us indifferent and disrespectful onlookers, the whole process has been hilarious, clumsy, uncertain and speculative. I am really relieved that the shoe wasn’t on the other foot. In the space of three weeks they have knocked their credibility back three years at least.

What credibility?

[wallpaperman]

So, how much is that now, that this 'Mystery benefactor' has *****ed into these clowns since they escaped justice by not going extinct - £10-12m ??. How-the-**** are they allowed to operate with money that is, in all reality, un-traceable ?. I thought that after the Hun fraud there was new stringent fiscal rules introduced and one of them was that clubs had to prove how and where their funding was coming from ??. ****-all's changed with these low-life - still playing with 'Other People's Money' and not within their own financial capabilities !

The FFP rules have not been adopted in Scotland (shock).

This is quite a good read, obviously a Celtic blog’s perspective but interesting read.

https://thecelticblog.com/2019/03/blogs/celtic-sites-have-fought-for-financial-fair-play-in-the-spl-but-england-again-shows-us-how-its-done/

Edit: sorry, can’t get these links working right.

[Victor]

Daily mail journalist just tweeted this-

“Hearts have been in touch with Barnsley today re Daniel Stendel compensation issue. Nothing resolved yet.”

Even by Hearts standards, this is turning into a farcical situation. I am sure it was reported previously that Barnsley had waived compensation, obviously they now reckon that Hearts are so desperate that they will actually pay for the privilege of getting their sacked ex-manager.


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[Cataplana]

Remember the cossack hats? Watch out for a resugence in sheepskin jacket wearing at the PBS...they look quite fashionable when driving a Montego Estate.

Not to mention another visit from the vice squad.

[bingo70]

Even by Hearts standards, this is turning into a farcical situation. I am sure it was reported previously that Barnsley had waived compensation, obviously they now reckon that Hearts are so desperate that they will actually pay for the privilege of getting their sacked ex-manager.


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I think it was previously just assumed the compensation would be waived.

Likely to be a bit of a stand off between Barnsley and Stendel to see who blinks first but I’m sure there’ll be a deal done.

Doesn’t strike me that Hearts will be in a particularly strong negotiating position though. To me this just looks like a bad fit for them, shouldn’t be this difficult.

[Kato]

I don’t think there’s the slightest doubt that he’s going to sign for them, but for us indifferent and disrespectful onlookers, the whole process has been hilarious, clumsy, uncertain and speculative. I am really relieved that the shoe wasn’t on the other foot. In the space of three weeks they have knocked their credibility back three years at least.

I doubt they wanted him or that he wants to go there but both parties have been painted into a corner. Expensive corner for the flumps if they have to cough up.

Still they've got loads of cash you know, massive, massive, big club, big budget etc etc millions and millions.

[RyeSloan]

Even by Hearts standards, this is turning into a farcical situation. I am sure it was reported previously that Barnsley had waived compensation, obviously they now reckon that Hearts are so desperate that they will actually pay for the privilege of getting their sacked ex-manager.


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Yup Barnsley must be pissing themselves laughing at the thought of getting compo for someone hiring a manager that they have already sacked!

[HoboHarry]

The FFP rules have not been adopted in Scotland (shock).

This is quite a good read, obviously a Celtic blog’s perspective but interesting read.

https://thecelticblog.com/2019/03/blogs/celtic-sites-have-fought-for-financial-fair-play-in-the-spl-but-england-again-shows-us-how-its-done/

Edit: sorry, can’t get these links working right.

https://thecelticblog.com/2019/03/blogs/celtic-sites-have-fought-for-financial-fair-play-in-the-spl-but-england-again-shows-us-how-its-done/

Hopefully the link will work now.....

[lord bunberry]

I’ve got a feeling they’re going to appoint him and deal with the compensation claim later. They can’t possibly not appoint him now, they’d be a complete laughing stock.

[B.H.F.C]

I’ve got a feeling they’re going to appoint him and deal with the compensation claim later. They can’t possibly not appoint him now, they’d be a complete laughing stock.

They’re not exactly known for paying folk what is due, so no reason for this to be any different.

[weecounty hibby]

I’ve got a feeling they’re going to appoint him and deal with the compensation claim later. They can’t possibly not appoint him now, they’d be a complete laughing stock.

You surely mean even more of a laughing stock. I work beside a Partick fan and he was saying today that hearts were a shambles! He's a fan of the club at the bottom of the championship!

[lord bunberry]

You surely mean even more of a laughing stock. I work beside a Partick fan and he was saying today that hearts were a shambles! He's a fan of the club at the bottom of the championship!
Yes I did mean that :greengrin

[Gmack7]

He'll be pushing for a clause in his contract as soon as a big club comes in for him he can jump ship.

unlikely that clause will ever be needed

[Sammy7nil]

unlikely that clause will ever be needed

Simply because there are so few clubs worldwide that are bigger than Hearts. I have heard it said they are a big, huge, massive, Really really big big big club.

[renato]

Simply because there are so few clubs worldwide that are bigger than Hearts. I have heard it said they are a big, huge, massive, Really really big big big club.

And famous.

[Gmack7]

Simply because there are so few clubs worldwide that are bigger than Hearts. I have heard it said they are a big, huge, massive, Really really big big big club.

indeed. they are unbiggerable

[Hibeesmad]

If he’s not in by the weekend and Sunderland lose again, giving their manager the sack then I think they might well lose out on him.

[Aldo]

Wonder what will happen first...

Naming of new manager

Or

Completion of the greatest ever single tiered stand with the most modern facilities ever??

?????


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[bingo70]

If he’s not in by the weekend and Sunderland lose again, giving their manager the sack then I think they might well lose out on him.

I wonder if the compensation thing was a reason Sunderland didn’t consider him when they appointed Parkinson.

[Sammy7nil]

If he’s not in by the weekend and Sunderland lose again, giving their manager the sack then I think they might well lose out on him.

Or if Dundee sack McPake :wink:

[GreenCastle]

Remember this is Hearts..

The club who forgot to order seats.

The club who shafted many local businesses.

Anything could happen here.

Would he be the 1st German to manage in the Scotland ? Bertie obviously managed Scotland.

From what I know about him ... basically a Klopp at lower level. Not a bad thing but can’t see him lasting more than 1.5 seasons max before realising Old Firm will stroll it up here and another club down South or abroad will come in for him / or he will be sacked like last 2 jobs = manager search again.

[jacomo]

You surely mean even more of a laughing stock. I work beside a Partick fan and he was saying today that hearts were a shambles! He's a fan of the club at the bottom of the championship!


I was chatting to a Spurs fan today and asked him his thoughts on the Hearts situation.

Who? he said.

I explained that they are a joke outfit and even Partick fans laugh at them.

Oh yeah I have heard of them, he said.

But he still doesn’t know who Hearts are.

[Sammy7nil]

I was chatting to a Spurs fan today and asked him his thoughts on the Hearts situation.

Who? he said.

I explained that they are a joke outfit and even Partick fans laugh at them.

Oh yeah I have heard of them, he said.

But he still doesn’t know who Hearts are.

Strange, typical EPL can nothing else exists :rolleyes:

[lord bunberry]

And famous.
And big, really big.

[Bostonhibby]

And big, really big.I think the correct term is bigliness, but not their wee pitch obviously. Otherwise allisbigly.

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[theonlywayisup]

So what's the latest. Apologies, don't want to go through 37 pages of Hertz.

[lord bunberry]

I think the correct term is bigliness, but not their wee pitch obviously. Otherwise allisbigly.

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I think you’re just being bigliest mate. You’re obviously jealous of their biglinesses. :greengrin

[ancient hibee]

J
I was chatting to a Spurs fan today and asked him his thoughts on the Hearts situation.

Who? he said.

I explained that they are a joke outfit and even Partick fans laugh at them.

Oh yeah I have heard of them, he said.

But he still doesn’t know who Hearts are.
Ignorant enough not to know where one of his club’s greatest ever players came from.

[Bostonhibby]

I think you’re just being bigliest mate. You’re obviously jealous of their biglinesses. :greengrinForever in their shadow.

Well more of a partial view of a bit of a shadow that you can just about see from their school view lounge when the suns up.

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[lord bunberry]

Forever in their shadow.

Well more of a partial view of a bit of a shadow that you can just about see from their school view lounge when the suns up.

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Technically speaking it is a castle view, ok it might only be Tynecastle school, but it’s got castle in the name and everything.

[Bostonhibby]

Technically speaking it is a castle view, ok it might only be Tynecastle school, but it’s got castle in the name and everything.Partial castle view or semi castle view?

At the risk of being pedantic I just can't make up my mind between the two so am leaning towards school view lounge for accuracy.

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[Stuart93]

I was chatting to a Spurs fan today and asked him his thoughts on the Hearts situation.

Who? he said.

I explained that they are a joke outfit and even Partick fans laugh at them.

Oh yeah I have heard of them, he said.

But he still doesn’t know who Hearts are.

Meh I wouldn’t be too fussed about an English premier league teams fans opinion on my club

They’re detached from any real passionate kind of football. Half n half scarf sales are through the roof doon there 🤢

[Topographic Hibby]

So what's the latest. Apologies, don't want to go through 37 pages of Hertz.Somebody got sacked at Hearts, but is still in a job. The main stand at Tiny still isn't finished. That guy from Nickelback is gonna be out of a job/in charge tomorrow/Director of Football/Sporting Director (delete as appropriate or depending on which way the wind is blowing). Some guy from Germany may or may not become Hearts manager and various Spurs, Partick Thistle and many other clubs fans think Hearts are a joke or haven't heard of them.

And Anne Budge is a fantastic business women who has to rely on mysterious benefactors to plunge cash into Hearts to keep them afloat whilst doing all of her marvellous business-womaney stuff.

[lord bunberry]

Partial castle view or semi castle view?

At the risk of being pedantic I just can't make up my mind between the two so am leaning towards school view lounge for accuracy.

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In fairness most of them would prefer a school view.

[Bostonhibby]

In fairness most of them would prefer a school view.[emoji16]

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[Eyrie]

Simply because there are so few clubs worldwide that are bigger than Hearts. I have heard it said they are a big, huge, massive, Really really big big big club.


And famous.


indeed. they are unbiggerable


And big, really big.


I think the correct term is bigliness, but not their wee pitch obviously. Otherwise allisbigly.


I think you’re just being bigliest mate. You’re obviously jealous of their biglinesses. :greengrin

Are we giving Hearts too much covfefe on this site?

[Bostonhibby]

Are we giving Hearts too much covfefe on this site?There's so much to work with that it's not difficult to see why those who enjoy a laugh at their expense will do so from time to time.

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[GreenCastle]

Somebody got sacked at Hearts, but is still in a job. The main stand at Tiny still isn't finished. That guy from Nickelback is gonna be out of a job/in charge tomorrow/Director of Football/Sporting Director (delete as appropriate or depending on which way the wind is blowing). Some guy from Germany may or may not become Hearts manager and various Spurs, Partick Thistle and many other clubs fans think Hearts are a joke or haven't heard of them.

And Anne Budge is a fantastic business women who has to rely on mysterious benefactors to plunge cash into Hearts to keep them afloat whilst doing all of her marvellous business-womaney stuff.

Best post of this thread

[jacomo]

Are we giving Hearts too much covfefe on this site?


Can’t wait for the announcement. It’s gonna be YUGE.

[HoboHarry]

Somebody got sacked at Hearts, but is still in a job. The main stand at Tiny still isn't finished. That guy from Nickelback is gonna be out of a job/in charge tomorrow/Director of Football/Sporting Director (delete as appropriate or depending on which way the wind is blowing). Some guy from Germany may or may not become Hearts manager and various Spurs, Partick Thistle and many other clubs fans think Hearts are a joke or haven't heard of them.

And Anne Budge is a fantastic business women who has to rely on mysterious benefactors to plunge cash into Hearts to keep them afloat whilst doing all of her marvellous business-womaney stuff.
:top marksDon't think Topographic does you justice, Topoftheclass would be more apt......

[cocteautwin]

So, how much is that now, that this 'Mystery benefactor' has *****ed into these clowns since they escaped justice by not going extinct - £10-12m ??. How-the-**** are they allowed to operate with money that is, in all reality, un-traceable ?. I thought that after the Hun fraud there was new stringent fiscal rules introduced and one of them was that clubs had to prove how and where their funding was coming from ??. ****-all's changed with these low-life - still playing with 'Other People's Money' and not within their own financial capabilities !

Total per latest accounts is £9.3m from the benefactor and also £1.6m for the Save the Children project so that's £10.9m right there. FoH have put in £10m and Budge has put in around £4.0m. Add that up and it comes to over £25m of extra money thrown at it so far. There also appears to be a funding gap at the year end of around £4m, so someone is going to have to stump that up. That would bring it up to £29m in total. One does presume that the extra funds for the current season have been agreed as the accounts have been signed off as a going concern by the auditors.

These amounts are all before any exceptional costs that may arise . . . . . . . . . such as sacking and appointing management teams.

It really does make you wonder what sort of financial burden the fans will inherit when they eventually take ownership.

[green day]

Total per latest accounts is £9.3m from the benefactor and also £1.6m for the Save the Children project so that's £10.9m right there. FoH have put in £10m and Budge has put in around £4.0m. Add that up and it comes to over £25m of extra money thrown at it so far. There also appears to be a funding gap at the year end of around £4m, so someone is going to have to stump that up. That would bring it up to £29m in total. One does presume that the extra funds for the current season have been agreed as the accounts have been signed off as a going concern by the auditors.

These amounts are all before any exceptional costs that may arise . . . . . . . . . such as sacking and appointing management teams.

It really does make you wonder what sort of financial burden the fans will inherit when they eventually take ownership.

Hearts dont - and have rarely in my adult life - operate without the constant life support of "other peoples money" while crowing about being Edinburghs Big Club etc.

I get sick of hearing the bams on Sportsound talk about how well run they are. Its the footballing equivalent of a banana republic.

Sorry if this next statement doesnt conform to any "aye but I have decent Hearts mates" chat :greengrin but frankly I hope any financial burden is massive and they go under properly this time.

[BILLYHIBS]

Budgie on Radio Forth saying Stendel is their man but it will take time to announce him:
“We do things properly here at Tinycastle but it is a torturous process.” :greengrin

[FilipinoHibs]

Hearts dont - and have rarely in my adult life - operate without the constant life support of "other peoples money" while crowing about being Edinburghs Big Club etc.

I get sick of hearing the bams on Sportsound talk about how well run they are. Its the footballing equivalent of a banana republic.

Sorry if this next statement doesnt conform to any "aye but I have decent Hearts mates" chat :greengrin but frankly I hope any financial burden is massive and they go under properly this time.

I know a few Hearts fans and one is close to a mate who can't understand why fans cheer at Tynie when a bad Hibs score us announced.

But the latest episode since Budge took control reveals they have learnt nothing from the Romanov saga. Hearts where a nothing joke club until Mercer took over and started spending other folks money. Their fans are now addicted to financial doping except this time they are rock bottom and completely useless on the field ad well. I am enjoying this as I feel the comedy show has quite a while to run.

[wallpaperman]

Hearts where a nothing joke club until Mercer took over and started spending other folks money. Their fans are now addicted to financial doping except this time they are rock bottom and completely useless on the field ad well. I am enjoying this as I feel the comedy show has quite a while to run.

While I remember the Mercer years well, I had no interest in their finances then so don’t say this with any real knowledge but I didn’t think Hearts mega overspending ways really started until Chris Robinson took over?

i think Hearts were a complete basket case when Mercer bought them and he stabilised them, which coincided with the emergence of all those good young players which took them to within inches of glory (aww, shame) and they were reasonably stable until Robinson had to fund the new stands a decade later.

[GloryGlory]

Budgie on Radio Forth saying Stendel is their man but it will take time to announce him:
“We do things properly here at Tinycastle but it is a torturous process.” :greengrin

Which probably means that they are passing the begging bowl around their "benefactors" to cover compensation payments (and probably wages as well) and are still waiting for the cheques to clear. :greengrin

[we are hibs]

Levein gave him a tour of tynecastle 😂

What a way to run a club. Shouldve kept hecky around to try and punt kamberi to basel and give jack ross a wee tour of east mains. Thats how big clubs do it

[FilipinoHibs]

While I remember the Mercer years well, I had no interest in their finances then so don’t say this with any real knowledge but I didn’t think Hearts mega overspending ways really started until Chris Robinson took over?

i think Hearts were a complete basket case when Mercer bought them and he stabilised them, which coincided with the emergence of all those good young players which took them to within inches of glory (aww, shame) and they were reasonably stable until Robinson had to fund the new stands a decade later.

He went in with practically no debt and left with them about £4 million in the hole and thinking they were a big team.

[cocteautwin]

Hearts dont - and have rarely in my adult life - operate without the constant life support of "other peoples money" while crowing about being Edinburghs Big Club etc.

I get sick of hearing the bams on Sportsound talk about how well run they are. Its the footballing equivalent of a banana republic.

Sorry if this next statement doesnt conform to any "aye but I have decent Hearts mates" chat :greengrin but frankly I hope any financial burden is massive and they go under properly this time.


I’ve got loads of Hearts mates and half my family is on that side but whenever the topic of how much cash is being spent is brought up the conversation just turns nasty. They really don’t want to acknowledge how much the club has spent and insist it is financially sound.

When they started raising money to rescue their club there was a bit of jealous admiration as to how well they did and that they got to start again from zero and we had to soldier on with our honest debt. Now, that jealous admiration is starting to turn to finger pointing and open laughing.

I’m only here to keep a tally of the total that is being racked up. I don’t think they are going bust any time soon (if they keep pulling in benefactor cash), but the amounts they are spending are astonishing within the context of Scottish Football (outside the old firm).

[wallpaperman]

He went in with practically no debt and left with them about £4 million in the hole and thinking they were a big team.

Thanks, right enough, the Lego stands were already under construction under Mercer’s ownership.

[HFC93]

Sacked Hearts manager and ex-director of football Craig Levein, still working for the club until his contract ends in summer, gave prospective new head coach Daniel Stendel a tour of Tynecastle and the team's Riccarton training base. (Sun)

Bizarre

[green day]

When they started raising money to rescue their club there was a bit of jealous admiration as to how well they did and that they got to start again from zero

Agreed entirely - what they did with FoH was fantastic.................but how that money has subsequently been wasted is incredible and normal fans might see it as a slap in the puss.

Budge (and the FoH directors) using the fans donations as a cashline for poorly managed infrastructure projects is not "good management".

As it happens, I went to school with one of the FoH directors and them running things "just to show they are the big team" would not surprise me one bit.

[FilipinoHibs]

Agreed entirely - what they did with FoH was fantastic.................but how that money has subsequently been wasted is incredible and normal fans might see it as a slap in the puss.

Budge (and the FoH directors) using the fans donations as a cashline for poorly managed infrastructure projects is not "good management".

As it happens, I went to school with one of the FoH directors and them running things "just to show they are the big team" would not surprise me one bit.

I was at university with one of them.he was charlatan who became a full time student official, drank his salary and did nothing for the students.

[Jones28]

Sacked Hearts manager and ex-director of football Craig Levein, still working for the club until his contract ends in summer, gave prospective new head coach Daniel Stendel a tour of Tynecastle and the team's Riccarton training base. (Sun)

Bizarre

Why won’t he just **** off? 😂😂

[Since452]

Shambles. Having to pay Barnsley for a manager they sacked for not winning any of his last 10 games while a guy Hearts sacked from two positions shows him around a training facility they don't even own. Only Hearts.

[Aldo]

Shambles. Having to pay Barnsley for a manager they sacked for not winning any of his last 10 games while a guy Hearts sacked from two positions shows him around a training facility they don't even own. Only Hearts.

Cmon you should know this is what BIG Teams really do.

The ignorance of some folk [emoji23]


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[Aldo]

Why won’t he just **** off? [emoji23][emoji23]

He’ll be walking round Edinburgh in years to come wearing his official team tracksuit telling folk he’d been places. Forgetting to mention that he won **** all during his Carrer as player and manager.... no wait he won Bottler of the year in 1986!


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[Northernhibee]

Shambles. Having to pay Barnsley for a manager they sacked for not winning any of his last 10 games while a guy Hearts sacked from two positions shows him around a training facility they don't even own. Only Hearts.

Be fair to them. The reason they’re in such a mess and battling relegation is because a referee didn’t give a decision against Marvin Bartley in a game three years ago.

[Kato]

While I remember the Mercer years well, I had no interest in their finances then so don’t say this with any real knowledge but I didn’t think Hearts mega overspending ways really started until Chris Robinson took over?

i think Hearts were a complete basket case when Mercer bought them and he stabilised them, which coincided with the emergence of all those good young players which took them to within inches of glory (aww, shame) and they were reasonably stable until Robinson had to fund the new stands a decade later.

There was no stability under Mercer. He left debts to other clubs unpaid for season after season, was at constant loggerheads with the police due to unpaid debts and Robertson had to clear debts when he arrived which had lain unpaid for years. Just because he used "business speak" doesn't mean he ran Hearts well.

The backlog of debt was a huge driver in his wish to break up our club and use the proceeds to clear it.

A business failure, £4M in the red in the early 90's was huge amount for a Scottish football club.

[Since452]

Imagine we had to pay Leeds for Paul Heckingbottom. Sounds ludicrous doesn't it

[FilipinoHibs]

There was no stability under Mercer. He left debts to other clubs unpaid for season after season, was at constant loggerheads with the police due to unpaid debts and Robertson had to clear debts when he arrived which had lain unpaid for years. Just because he used "business speak" doesn't mean he ran Hearts well.

The backlog of debt was a huge driver in his wish to break up our club and use the proceeds to clear it.

A business failure, £4M in the red in the early 90's was huge amount for a Scottish football club.

😄

[Springbank]

Be fair to them. The reason they’re in such a mess and battling relegation is because a referee didn’t give a decision against Marvin Bartley in a game three years ago.

Imagine the cold sweats and flashbacks in the 3 home "stands" if Big Marv scores at Tynecastle tonight

Go on Marv!:flag:

[Since452]

Imagine the cold sweats and flashbacks in the 3 home "stands" if Big Marv scores at Tynecastle tonight

Go on Marv!:flag:

Marv will be loving it tonight

[Victor]

Budgie on Radio Forth saying Stendel is their man but it will take time to announce him:
“We do things properly here at Tinycastle but it is a torturous process.” :greengrin

It’s only torturous, if you don’t know what you are doing.....


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[Bostonhibby]

It’s only torturous, if you don’t know what you are doing.....


Sent from my iPad using TapatalkIt's like trying to get a bill paid by pre administration Hearts.

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[Cataplana]

Look, it took Spurs nearly a year to get Jose. It's how big clubs operate.

[SouthMoroccoStu]

Look, it took Spurs nearly a year to get Jose. It's how big clubs operate.

So 34 days (and counting) to get their 3rd choice who doesn't really want to be there at a grossly inflated wage is in fact really good going by Hearts

[The 90+2]

Imagine we had to pay Leeds for Paul Heckingbottom. Sounds ludicrous doesn't it

Imagine some team have to pay us for Hecky 😆😆

[Stuart93]

Imagine some team have to pay us for Hecky 😆😆

If they wanted him within six weeks of us sacking him they would’ve had to

[jacomo]

Imagine we had to pay Leeds for Paul Heckingbottom. Sounds ludicrous doesn't it


Barnsley sound very bullish - they’ve written to Hearts about compensation and will apparently go to court if need be.

On the other hand, Hearts sources claim Stendel hasn’t received a pay off from Barnsley, so maybe any compo claim is void?

[Since452]

So 34 days (and counting) to get their 3rd choice who doesn't really want to be there at a grossly inflated wage is in fact really good going by Hearts

Mrs Budge will come under some serious criticism if he can't turn their fortunes around and he struggled to do that at Barnsley. The money involved in salary, compensation etc must be eye watering. Even more so if they have to pay off Nanny McPhee etc. Then again he might end up being promoted.

[tamig]

Barnsley sound very bullish - they’ve written to Hearts about compensation and will apparently go to court if need be.

On the other hand, Hearts sources claim Stendel hasn’t received a pay off from Barnsley, so maybe any compo claim is void?

He may still be receiving his wages though.

[McSwanky]

Just catching up after a morning of meetings. Have they signed him yet?

[Aldo]

Mrs Budge will come under some serious criticism if he can't turn their fortunes around and he struggled to do that at Barnsley. The money involved in salary, compensation etc must be eye watering. Even more so if they have to pay off Nanny McPhee etc. Then again he might end up being promoted.

The head in the sand brigade don’t get it and never will, money is no object for a BIG team and everything has to be right before they get their man!

I cannot wait to see their faces come the weekend when they still haven’t got a manager because they couldn’t agree terms with Barnsley or he turns them down.

Banderson and the EEN getting fed crap to print to appease the masses.


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[HIBERNIAN-0762]

Some so called Barnsley fans in a gushing tribute to their former manager on the EEN page and one claiming he wants to get involved the deluded fuds fans page Laughaminuteback, good luck with that mate! :tee hee::tee hee::tee hee:

[Victor]

Sacked Hearts manager and ex-director of football Craig Levein, still working for the club until his contract ends in summer, gave prospective new head coach Daniel Stendel a tour of Tynecastle and the team's Riccarton training base. (Sun)

Bizarre

If this is true, then it is beyond bizarre. It also says something about Anne Budge and Levein’s influence. In a TV interview, she stated that Levein would not be part of the selection process. I think that showing a candidate around the Club’s facilities is definitely part of the process, this is when you sell your Club to any wavering applicants. Or are we led to believe that Levein did not discuss the Club, or football, whilst showing Stendel around and that Budge didn’t ask Levein his opinion on the candidate?


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[SHODAN]

Are we heading for an Appleton on this one?

[GloryGlory]

He may still be receiving his wages though.

Exactly. Gardening leave = still on the payroll and still getting paid.

[The 90+2]

If they wanted him within six weeks of us sacking him they would’ve had to

Stendel got sacked a month and three weeks ago, how does that work?

[Kato]

Stendel got sacked a month and three weeks ago, how does that work?

It might well be that Heckingbottom's contract was a different one to Stendal's, just guessing though.

[surreyhibbie]

Some so called Barnsley fans in a gushing tribute to their former manager on the EEN page and one claiming he wants to get involved the deluded fuds fans page Laughaminuteback, good luck with that mate! :tee hee::tee hee::tee hee:

undercover Hibbies? :greengrin

[Bostonhibby]

Some so called Barnsley fans in a gushing tribute to their former manager on the EEN page and one claiming he wants to get involved the deluded fuds fans page Laughaminuteback, good luck with that mate! :tee hee::tee hee::tee hee:They better watch out, could lead to another one of those special relationships the Duncans are so fond of declaring.

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[Cataplana]

So 34 days (and counting) to get their 3rd choice who doesn't really want to be there at a grossly inflated wage is in fact really good going by Hearts

You have to factor in how much more attractive an option Hearts are, that has to be explain why it's gone through so quickly.

[Bostonhibby]

Sacked Hearts manager and ex-director of football Craig Levein, still working for the club until his contract ends in summer, gave prospective new head coach Daniel Stendel a tour of Tynecastle and the team's Riccarton training base. (Sun)

BizarreShould be interesting when Levein takes him round to meet their "mystery benefactor". That'll clinch the deal.

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[Since452]

The Barnsley fans love him despite going 10 games without a win and being second bottom. Going to the 4th/5th biggest club in Scotland is a different kettle of fish. They were flying planes with Neilson Out banners whilst they were 2nd in the the league all because we pumped them out the cup 😂 Barnsley to Edinburgh is night and day as Hecky found out.

[Northernhibee]

The Barnsley fans love him despite going 10 games without a win and being second bottom. Going to the 4th/5th biggest club in Scotland is a different kettle of fish. They were flying planes with Neilson Out banners whilst they were 2nd in the the league all because we pumped them out the cup 😂

Tbf Ian Cathro did provide a lot more entertainment. It’s worked out well for them.

[Gmack7]

Forth one reporting CL has been sacked

Seems to be still gamefully employed as some sort of tour guide

[The 90+2]

It might well be that Heckingbottom's contract was a different one to Stendal's, just guessing though.

True 👍

[wallpaperman]

Queen Annie apparently admitting right now that they are not near over the line with Stendel due to the Barnsley angle.

Plenty of time for Danny boy to find himself a better offer in the meantime. 🤔

[The 90+2]

Queen Annie apparently admitting right now that they are not near over the line with Stendel due to the Barnsley angle.

Plenty of time for Danny boy to find himself a better offer in the meantime. 🤔

Sunderland over the weekend. 😳😳

[Jim44]

Queen Annie apparently admitting right now that they are not near over the line with Stendel due to the Barnsley angle.

Plenty of time for Danny boy to find himself a better offer in the meantime. 🤔

I interpreted it as it will take a bit more time but the deal is done. Just the formality of tidying up at the Barnsley end. Someone hinting that Stendel’s guys will be at their game tonight.

[Keith_M]

I know we enjoy taking the P' out of our rivals but the Barnsley Fans' comments about him seem to be very positive. This one in particular...


'Fans’ group the Barnsley FC Supporters Trust said:

“We would like to go on record thanking Daniel for not only gaining promotion from League One in his first season in charge, and first season in England, but for immersing himself in the town, the values it holds, and the football club. We gained promotion to the Championship last season playing wonderful, attacking football, combined with a sense of togetherness that brought some fantastic memories for many supporters.” '

[The 90+2]

I know we enjoy taking the P' out of our rivals but the Barnsley Fans' comments about him seem to be very positive. This one in particular...


'Fans’ group the Barnsley FC Supporters Trust said:

“We would like to go on record thanking Daniel for not only gaining promotion from League One in his first season in charge, and first season in England, but for immersing himself in the town, the values it holds, and the football club. We gained promotion to the Championship last season playing wonderful, attacking football, combined with a sense of togetherness that brought some fantastic memories for many supporters.” '

Hecky done a terrific job for about 8 games and I would love to place on record how thankful I am we made the top six out of nowhere.

The German boy had Barnsley lose TEN GAMES IN A ROW. Miles bottom of the league. Aye but the pleb went to the pub with them. Absolute motivating machine is the guy.

I wonder if their memories of the new the German are better than our old sacked manager taking them to and winning at Wembley twice?

[oneone73]

Hecky done a terrific job for about 8 games and I would love to place on record how thankful I am we made the top six out of nowhere.

The German boy had Barnsley lose TEN GAMES IN A ROW. Miles bottom of the league. Aye but the pleb went to the pub with them. Absolute motivating machine is the guy.

I wonder if their memories of the new the German are better than our old sacked manager taking them to and winning at Wembley twice?

Don't think he did lose 10 in a row? Wasn't it 10 without a win?

[The 90+2]

Don't think he did lose 10 in a row? Wasn't it 10 without a win?

Dunno, he’s still ***** and left them bottom :greengrin

[erin go bragh]

If this is true, then it is beyond bizarre. It also says something about Anne Budge and Levein’s influence. In a TV interview, she stated that Levein would not be part of the selection process. I think that showing a candidate around the Club’s facilities is definitely part of the process, this is when you sell your Club to any wavering applicants. Or are we led to believe that Levein did not discuss the Club, or football, whilst showing Stendel around and that Budge didn’t ask Levein his opinion on the candidate?


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I got told today that Harry Potter took the players training while Nanny McPhee was away with NI .
Some fans are taking a flag with “ hang Anne Budge “ on it ( Allegedly) Classy lot over at the PBS .

[Cataplana]

I got told today that Harry Potter took the players training while Nanny McPhee was away with NI .
Some fans are taking a flag with “ hang Anne Budge “ on it ( Allegedly) Classy lot over at the PBS .

You would hope such people would be rounded on.

[Deansy]

While I remember the Mercer years well, I had no interest in their finances then so don’t say this with any real knowledge but I didn’t think Hearts mega overspending ways really started until Chris Robinson took over?

i think Hearts were a complete basket case when Mercer bought them and he stabilised them, which coincided with the emergence of all those good young players which took them to within inches of glory (aww, shame) and they were reasonably stable until Robinson had to fund the new stands a decade later.

If my memory is correct, when Mercer took over they were only ('only' - but in those days still a sizeable amount !) £500,000-£1m in debt - he then began their now infamous 'Business-plan' (which ran for some 30+ years !) which basically involved not paying their bills and increasing their debt season-by-season !. Mercer's 'Business-plan' saw their debts increase to approx £5m and when that amount got too scary for him he sold out to Chris Robinson - incredibly, in his 10-11 years at 'Tiny', he increased that debt to £20m ! And when Vlad took over that was when they really went to town - all in all from Mercer to Vlad these clowns have *****ed over £100m, all to 'gain' 3 Scottish cups and an artificially inflated derby-record !

Now with the 'mystery benefactor' becoming a regular feature, Hearts are basically back to what they do best - 'STILL Playing With Other People's Money !' !. I suppose the only positive is that, until they're run honestly and within their own means, they'll never be able to (realistically) claim to be the 'better club' in Edinburgh - whereas us ………………….. :flag:

[Since452]

Hecky done a terrific job for about 8 games and I would love to place on record how thankful I am we made the top six out of nowhere.

The German boy had Barnsley lose TEN GAMES IN A ROW. Miles bottom of the league. Aye but the pleb went to the pub with them. Absolute motivating machine is the guy.

I wonder if their memories of the new the German are better than our old sacked manager taking them to and winning at Wembley twice?

Correct. I'd like to thank Hecky for almost getting us into Europe last season from relegation fodder. This season however....

[hibbyfraelibby]

It might well be that Heckingbottom's contract was a different one to Stendal's, just guessing though.

Was it not 4 months salary...allegedly the reason Appleton wasn't interested

[WhileTheChief..]

Correct. I'd like to thank Hecky for almost getting us into Europe last season from relegation fodder. This season however....

We were never in any danger of relegation last season and our post split results meant we were never in the hunt for Europe.

[Keith_M]

Hecky done a terrific job for about 8 games and I would love to place on record how thankful I am we made the top six out of nowhere.

The German boy had Barnsley lose TEN GAMES IN A ROW. Miles bottom of the league. Aye but the pleb went to the pub with them. Absolute motivating machine is the guy.

I wonder if their memories of the new the German are better than our old sacked manager taking them to and winning at Wembley twice?


Except they didn't lose ten in a row and the reason Stendel didn't win any games at Wembley was because he gained automatic promotion.... so didn't have to play there.

I'm not that familiar with the Barnsley situation but a few people have said that he got them promoted playing attractive football, then the board sabotaged his efforts by selling the best players and not replacing them.


Aside from all that, you make a good argument :wink:

[SHODAN]

Interesting. (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46270708)

[The 90+2]

Except they didn't lose ten in a row and the reason Stendel didn't win any games at Wembley was because he gained automatic promotion.... so didn't have to play there.

I'm not that familiar with the Barnsley situation but a few people have said that he got them promoted playing attractive football, then the board sabotaged his efforts by selling the best players and not replacing them.


Aside from all that, you make a good argument :wink:

They got nowhere near a cup final there though.

If they count Adam Jackson amongst their best players the argument is null and void regardless. 😉 who’s board doesn’t seek their best players anyway? You have to learn to adapt. What’s Stendal going to do when they sell Hickey to Barcelona for £30m?

[wallpaperman]

Interesting. (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46270708)

Huh? If this is a whoosh moment please forgive me. It’s a match report from a game just over a year ago. 🤔

[SHODAN]

Huh? If this is a whoosh moment please forgive me. It’s a match report from a game just over a year ago. 🤔

It's Ross beating Stendel last season. Their other game ended in a draw. :greengrin

[wallpaperman]

It's Ross beating Stendel last season. Their other game ended in a draw. :greengrin

Ha, got ya. 😝 hope the tradition continues long into the future once Annie’s legal team have crushed Barnsley like ants and Daniel marches triumphantly into the atmosphere-dome of legend.

[Jim44]

Correct. I'd like to thank Hecky for almost getting us into Europe last season from relegation fodder. This season however....

I think we draw a line under PH. Sadly, it didn’t work out. I think his recent link with Stendel is being mis-interpreted. Some folk are taking the view that he was putting his nose in where it wasn’t wanted and talking up Hearts. I think, because he was talking to Stendel, he took a chance to say that he would love working in Edinburgh etc. and that he would have liked to have still been there.

[Waxy]

Mystery benefactor fc

[Keith_M]

... What’s Stendal going to do when they sell Hickey to Barcelona for £30m?


Well that scenario awaits whoever takes over, I suppose

:greengrin

[HIBERNIAN-0762]

Hilarious turn of events here, a truly embarrassing scenario 🤣 over on stupidback the excuses are coming thick and fast, comedy gold from the tiny castle as usual. Keep it up mugs 😀

[HFC93]

Hearts fans love to hype a guy up. See all the superstars they've signed in recent years. Stendel will be the managerial equivalent.

[Col2]

Amazing how Budge really struggles to do the things other football clubs do much easier.

Appoint a manager - so torturous

Build a one tier stand - double the cost and still not finished.

[Since452]

I'd never heard of Stendel before he appeared on the bookies list for the Hibs job

[The 90+2]

Amazing how Budge really struggles to do the things other football clubs do much easier.

Appoint a manager - so torturous

Build a one tier stand - double the cost and still not finished.

She can’t even sack Levein properly without him kicking about like a weirdo all over the club.

[Eyrie]

If Hearts are that desperate to get Stendal to sign for them, why are they showing him the Tiny PBS?

[HoboHarry]

I'd never heard of Stendel before he appeared on the bookies list for the Hibs job

I had but only because he got lamped by Joey Barton 😁

[truehibernian]

I'd never heard of Stendel before he appeared on the bookies list for the Hibs job

Don't worry mate, it's Scottish football journalism and Barnsley is the now Euro epicentre of Brazilian style football and Stendel is just a stepping stone away from the German national manager position after he rockets Hearts up to the summit of the SPFL with the 'high press' game and downing jagerbombs with the cardigan of Hearts fans in Luckies :greengrin his no wins in 10 sequence with the Barnsley Galacticos has already seen UEFA stencil the name 'Heart of Midlothian' onto the balls they use for the Champions League draw once they found out he was head-hunted by The Famous :aok::faf:

[ancient hibee]

It seems clear that Stendal had a better last season than Ross.If he gets the job it’ll be interesting to see if he’s any good.

[hibbyfraelibby]

Don't worry mate, it's Scottish football journalism and Barnsley is the now Euro epicentre of Brazilian style football and Stendel is just a stepping stone away from the German national manager position after he rockets Hearts up to the summit of the SPFL with the 'high press' game and downing jagerbombs with the cardigan of Hearts fans in Luckies :greengrin his no wins in 10 sequence with the Barnsley Galacticos has already seen UEFA stencil the name 'Heart of Midlothian' onto the balls they use for the Champions League draw once they found out he was head-hunted by The Famous :aok::faf:

Funny you should mention Luckies. Seems it is doomed as the center of all things cardigan, cord and Rover. Student flats proposed for the site.

[1van Sprou7e]

It seems clear that Stendal had a better last season than Ross.If he gets the job it’ll be interesting to see if he’s any good.

Yes, personally I would rather have Jack Ross due to his knowledge of the Scottish game but stendel seems to be a good manager despite some posters' desperation to laugh at hearts

[ancient hibee]

Yes, personally I would rather have Jack Ross due to his knowledge of the Scottish game but stendel seems to be a good manager despite some posters' desperation to laugh at hearts
Yes me too.Stendal a shot in the dark.Still Yorkshire’s a pretty strange place as well!

[truehibernian]

Yes, personally I would rather have Jack Ross due to his knowledge of the Scottish game but stendel seems to be a good manager despite some posters' desperation to laugh at hearts

It's not desperation to laugh at them - he has been removed from his post after one year with his two previous clubs (Hannover 96 and Barnsley) and didn't win in 10 games before he was removed from Barnsley this season - if this was a Hibs appointment we'd all be worried with those statistics - regardless of what fans from Barnsley say on forums.

He may be good for them - it's a wait and see - but the way he's been portrayed in the media here is hyperbole in the extreme. Same hyperbole they douse on Hickey, Cochrane and Cathro when he was about to be appointed. Even MacPhee has been found out for being a laptop coach and the media here had him as heading up the SFA at one point :rolleyes:.

I'll happily take any opportunity to laugh at Hearts especially when they've gone about this managerial appointment.

Can I ask Ivan - would you be happy if Paul Heckingbottom was involved in the choice of the Hibs manager and hanging around the club after dismissal and heavily involved in club matters still ?

[CapitalGreen]

It seems clear that Stendal had a better last season than Ross.If he gets the job it’ll be interesting to see if he’s any good.

Yet in the 2 matches they faced each other Jack Ross was unbeaten. Trouncing Barnsley 4-2 at the Stadium of Light and then drawing 0-0 away.

[wallpaperman]

Amazing how Budge really struggles to do the things other football clubs do much easier.

Appoint a manager - so torturous

Build a one tier stand - double the cost and still not finished.

If some of the comments on Kickback are accurate they have also managed to make a complete mess of their £1 million state of the art, canny damage it, last forever, great investment, hybrid pitch.

[ancient hibee]

Yet in the 2 matches they faced each other Jack Ross was unbeaten. Trouncing Barnsley 4-2 at the Stadium of Light and then drawing 0-0 away.
And that’s better than getting promoted is it?

[Northernhibee]

What's really, really funny about it is that if Stendel falls through then they can't appoint McPhee as he's been so bad.

If they do, he's got a hell of a job to lift a team of really ***** players.

[007]

What's really, really funny about it is that if Stendel falls through then they can't appoint McPhee as he's been so bad.

If they do, he's got a hell of a job to lift a team of really ***** players.

If he's got any sense he'll pull out of the deal. It's a massive task to turn them around and if he doesn't get decent results quickly, the fans will be on his back.

[Cardinal G]

And that’s better than getting promoted is it?

At the time it seemed that is was enough but ultimately they had the last laugh.

[matty_f]

Has the deal fallen through?

[Jim44]

Has the deal fallen through?

What makes you ask, Matty?

[matty_f]

What makes you ask, Matty?

Had a few messages tonight about it to say that there's a good chance hearts have had to walk away from it. Not sure if there's anything in it though.

[Hibeesmad]

Nanny MacPhee said after their game tonight that he has been told that Stendel will be appointed early next week.

[Kato]

Nanny MacPhee said after their game tonight that he has been told that Stendel will be appointed early next week.

He also repeated the claim that Hearts haven't beaten Rangers at Hampden since 1874. I wonder how that one works given they have never won a game at Hampden against Rangers.

[Keith_M]

He also repeated the claim that Hearts haven't beaten Rangers at Hampden since 1874. I wonder how that one works given they have never won a game at Hampden against Rangers.


Surely not.

[Since452]

He also repeated the claim that Hearts haven't beaten Rangers at Hampden since 1874. I wonder how that one works given they have never won a game at Hampden against Rangers.

I have never slept with Katy Perry as since 1984. In other words never

[Mainstandman]

If some of the comments on Kickback are accurate they have also managed to make a complete mess of their £1 million state of the art, canny damage it, last forever, great investment, hybrid pitch.

I was pitchside a couple of weeks ago and its not in great nick I can tell you. Must be costing them a fortune in sun lamps as they have them on all the time as well.

[Hibbyradge]

He also repeated the claim that Hearts haven't beaten Rangers at Hampden since 1874. I wonder how that one works given they have never won a game at Hampden against Rangers.

It works because they were formed in 1874.

It's like me saying we've never lost 0-15 since 1875.

Both are true statements. Unless I've whooshed ...

[FilipinoHibs]

It works because they were formed in 1874.

It's like me saying we've never lost 0-15 since 1875.

Both are true statements. Unless I've whooshed ...

The use of since implies prior to the date the opposite was true.

Before 1874 we beat Rangers at Hampden.

Before 1984 I slept with Katie Perry.

[calumhibee1]

He also repeated the claim that Hearts haven't beaten Rangers at Hampden since 1874. I wonder how that one works given they have never won a game at Hampden against Rangers.

He didn’t say that surely? 😂

[SHODAN]

He also repeated the claim that Hearts haven't beaten Rangers at Hampden since 1874. I wonder how that one works given they have never won a game at Hampden against Rangers.

That is a bizarre thing to say.

[bingo70]

I was pitchside a couple of weeks ago and its not in great nick I can tell you. Must be costing them a fortune in sun lamps as they have them on all the time as well.

What stand were you in?

[Since452]

Ian Wright out of the jungle. Maybe that's the big name they were waiting on

[Biggie]

He also repeated the claim that Hearts haven't beaten Rangers at Hampden since 1874. I wonder how that one works given they have never won a game at Hampden against Rangers.
I'm not getting this, and its probably a whoosh moment, but did the yams not beat rangers to win the Scottish cup in 98 ? (Or was he being wide as that was the old Glasgow rangers?)

[lord bunberry]

I'm not getting this, and its probably a whoosh moment, but did the yams not beat rangers to win the Scottish cup in 98 ? (Or was he being wide as that was the old Glasgow rangers?)
Hampden was being refurbished so the game was at Parkhead.

[Biggie]

Hampden was being refurbished so the game was at Parkhead.

:doh:

[Hibbyradge]

The use of since implies prior to the date the opposite was true.

Before 1874 we beat Rangers at Hampden.

Before 1984 I slept with Katie Perry.

The point is that everyone, including Nanny, knows they were formed in 1874. It's a perfectly good, and humourous, way to make a point.

If I said "I haven't robbed a bank since the day I was born" would you think I meant I'd robbed one earlier?

[Bostonhibby]

The point is that everyone, including Nanny, knows they were formed in 1874. It's a perfectly good, and humourous, way to make a point.

If I said "I haven't robbed a bank since the day I was born" would you think I meant I'd robbed one earlier?

Hearts did rob a bank though.

I'm sure there was one on their creditors list[emoji6]

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[Mainstandman]

What stand were you in?

normally im main stand of course, but time time I was right at he pitch, no game on

[Not In The Know]

If some of the comments on Kickback are accurate they have also managed to make a complete mess of their £1 million state of the art, canny damage it, last forever, great investment, hybrid pitch.

I was at the ladies cup final and it looks in worse nick than ours.

[Keith_M]

In light of their morale boosting draw against Livi, maybe they'll be tempted to give the job to McPhee

[Keith_M]

The point is that everyone, including Nanny, knows they were formed in 1874. It's a perfectly good, and humourous, way to make a point.

If I said "I haven't robbed a bank since the day I was born" would you think I meant I'd robbed one earlier?


Or maybe you robbed a bank on the day you were born?

[HoboHarry]

Or maybe you robbed a bank on the day you were born?
Unlike Chuck Norris - he robbed one the day before he was born and only 4 hours after he had built it......

[FilipinoHibs]

The point is that everyone, including Nanny, knows they were formed in 1874. It's a perfectly good, and humourous, way to make a point.

If I said "I haven't robbed a bank since the day I was born" would you think I meant I'd robbed one earlier?

That is the wonderful ambiguity of the English language.

[HoboHarry]

That is the wonderful ambiguity of the English language.
Fits at yer sayin min?

[JXM73]

Barnsley now saying they're not the hold up, i caanae eat any more popcorn....

Barnsley chief executive Paul Conway is bemused at the suggestion his club are holding up the appointment of Daniel Stendel as Hearts manager, suggesting the matter could be resolved by telephone instead of the correspondence by letter and hinting that his club's six-figure compensation demand for their former boss is a red herring for other issues.

Daily Mail.....

[hibbyfraelibby]

The problem is and always has been St.Endel himself. By demanding £12k per week add in the coaches he wants and you are looking at £20k per week that Budge will have to pony up. That £1m minimum per year for 3 medium risk employees. Add in the pay offs to Potter, Nanny and the coaches from hell and you can double that.

They have already papered over a £4m hole in their finances, have millions still to pay to finish the Library Stand and the Queen wants her money repaid within 2 years. They are looking at a potential £10m black hole and the DDs wont cover that.

[Bostonhibby]

Barnsley now saying they're not the hold up, i caanae eat any more popcorn....

Barnsley chief executive Paul Conway is bemused at the suggestion his club are holding up the appointment of Daniel Stendel as Hearts manager, suggesting the matter could be resolved by telephone instead of the correspondence by letter and hinting that his club's six-figure compensation demand for their former boss is a red herring for other issues.

Daily Mail.....Mrs Doctor Budge does like a good long letter but I think the real delay is when they despatch it to Barnsley forthwith by horse borne courier.

Her footman Levein is in no hurry to see any deal done, so instead of making all speed on his trusty steed Daly he has been spotted killing time at various wetherspoons and Betfreds between Edinburgh and Barnsley.



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[Not In The Know]

Barnsley now saying they're not the hold up, i caanae eat any more popcorn....

Barnsley chief executive Paul Conway is bemused at the suggestion his club are holding up the appointment of Daniel Stendel as Hearts manager, suggesting the matter could be resolved by telephone instead of the correspondence by letter and hinting that his club's six-figure compensation demand for their former boss is a red herring for other issues.

Daily Mail.....

I bet they are using second class stamps as well.

[Not In The Know]

I bet they are using second class stamps as well.

If you could take one thing from this, it is that Budgie is not very good at running a football club.

She basically stared from ground zero with them, with huge funds and no debt. Now they have a botched stand, botched pitch, bottom of the league and running at a 4m per annum loss and nae senior football people at the club that know what they are doing.

Hilarious.

[Cataplana]

Mrs Doctor Budge does like a good long letter but I think the real delay is when they despatch it to Barnsley forthwith by horse borne courier.

Her footman Levein is in no hurry to see any deal done, so instead of making all speed on his trusty steed Daly he has been spotted killing time at various wetherspoons and Betfreds between Edinburgh and Barnsley.



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Like all big businesses they close down for the best part of a month at this time of year

He knows that the Xmas party season starts soon, and it will be the middle of January before anybody gets round to doing any work again.

[Bostonhibby]

Like all big businesses they close down for the best part of a month at this time of year

He knows that the Xmas party season starts soon, and it will be the middle of January before anybody gets round to doing any work again.Perfectly understandable, what with the good doctor's seasonal visits to the city's almshouses and then having to prepare the Swan for the table I'm surprised she gets time to even think about what to do next with all the givers money, never mind think about the distractions of appointing a manager when her loyal footman is still "below stairs".[emoji6]

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[matty_f]

Barnsley now saying they're not the hold up, i caanae eat any more popcorn....

Barnsley chief executive Paul Conway is bemused at the suggestion his club are holding up the appointment of Daniel Stendel as Hearts manager, suggesting the matter could be resolved by telephone instead of the correspondence by letter and hinting that his club's six-figure compensation demand for their former boss is a red herring for other issues.

Daily Mail.....

I posted the other day that I'd had a few messages saying that this had every chance of falling through. I don't think it's anywhere near as close to being over the line as initially thought.

That said, my own opinion is that Hearts have backed themselves into a corner and so are going to have to go over budget to get their guy or they risk a monumental backlash from their support and going back to the drawing board for the next manager.

I don't think MacPhee has any chance of getting it.

[greenginger]

I posted the other day that I'd had a few messages saying that this had every chance of falling through. I don't think it's anywhere near as close to being over the line as initially thought.

That said, my own opinion is that Hearts have backed themselves into a corner and so are going to have to go over budget to get their guy or they risk a monumental backlash from their support and going back to the drawing board for the next manager.

I don't think MacPhee has any chance of getting it.


Nanny might not not get the gig but there’s a chance the bookies might pay out on him. :greengrin

Some of the bookie sites I’ve seen say an interim manager in charge for 10 games is considered the permanent manager.

4 more games after Saturday and the bookies pocket the Stendel wagers.

[Jones28]

I posted the other day that I'd had a few messages saying that this had every chance of falling through. I don't think it's anywhere near as close to being over the line as initially thought.

That said, my own opinion is that Hearts have backed themselves into a corner and so are going to have to go over budget to get their guy or they risk a monumental backlash from their support and going back to the drawing board for the next manager.

I don't think MacPhee has any chance of getting it.

I think you’re right Matty.

The biggest thing if this doesn’t go ahead will be the backlash from the Hearts fans and rightly so. They’re then left with a who’s who of managerial *****.

[Jim44]

They’re reluctantly trying to be patient based on Budge’s assertion, when Levein was sacked, that an appointment would take 4 to 6 weeks. To me, that was a bit of a random figure as it was highly probable that an appointment could quite easily be made in a fraction of that timescale. She had no inkling then of the Stendel/Barnsley situation or any other candidate factors yet she comes out with a period of time which, it would appear, now fits Stendelgate exactly. I suppose it happens to really big clubs occasionally, while tinpot clubs like Tottenham Hotspur can sack and appoint within 24 hours. :rolleyes:

[matty_f]

I think you’re right Matty.

The biggest thing if this doesn’t go ahead will be the backlash from the Hearts fans and rightly so. They’re then left with a who’s who of managerial *****.

I think that means Hearts pretty much have to get him, so whatever is holding it up right now, Hearts will have to come up with an answer.

Stendel's not covering himself in glory with it though, you look at Jack Ross coming here, he wanted the gig and jumped through hoops to get it, and we got it done very quickly.

Stendel's clearly not as eager to take the job on as Hearts are to get him, I'm not sure I'd be looking for that in a prospective manager.

[GreenCastle]

36 days since Levein the loser was sacked...and still no manager (maybe going for a football world record ?)

57 years and counting since Hearts won the league cup..

3 years and counting and the new main stand still isn’t complete.

Budge loves to keep to her timescales...(obviously the league cup isn’t her timescale)

[Jim44]

I think that means Hearts pretty much have to get him, so whatever is holding it up right now, Hearts will have to come up with an answer.

Stendel's not covering himself in glory with it though, you look at Jack Ross coming here, he wanted the gig and jumped through hoops to get it, and we got it done very quickly.

Stendel's clearly not as eager to take the job on as Hearts are to get him, I'm not sure I'd be looking for that in a prospective manager.

I don’t think there’s the remotest chance that they won’t get their man but it’s obviously going to make a massive hole in their wallet. :greengrin

[matty_f]

I don’t think there’s the remotest chance that they won’t get their man but it’s obviously going to make a massive hole in their wallet. :greengrin

:agree: There will be letters going out to secret benefactors as we speak, asking to front up some more money.

I reckon they'll already have asked Barnsley if they can pay in installments and after checking their credit history, Barnsley have told them to bolt.

[Hakim Sar]

Can see this falling through, then being swept under a crusty old Heart of Midlothian carpet in the Hans Eskillson suite in the new Mega Stand.

Then expect a very robust statement on yam.co.uk saying that they were never interested in Stendel in the first place but there must be an understanding that big clubs are used by agents to manoeuvre and engineer interest in their clients, part and parcel of being one of the top 3 jobs in British football you see.

Followed by the appointment of Stephen Robinson who has been sitting under their noses the whole time.

[K-Zazu]

Knowing hearts they will probably appoint him on Christmas Day to give them a better chance of winning the Derby

[Jones28]

I think that means Hearts pretty much have to get him, so whatever is holding it up right now, Hearts will have to come up with an answer.

Stendel's not covering himself in glory with it though, you look at Jack Ross coming here, he wanted the gig and jumped through hoops to get it, and we got it done very quickly.

Stendel's clearly not as eager to take the job on as Hearts are to get him, I'm not sure I'd be looking for that in a prospective manager.

If you have to beg, borrow and steal to get someone in the door they don’t want to be there.

[matty_f]

If you have to beg, borrow and steal to get someone in the door they don’t want to be there.

Correct, I'd definitely be hearing alarm bells if that was us in that situation. Especially when you take into consideration the relative urgency of their position.

They're honking, at the bottom end of the table and struggling for form and points. If ever they needed to take swift action then it's now. Instead they're farting about chasing a guy who may or may not want to be there. And making a Noel Hunt of it in the process.


It's quite marvelous, to be honest.