Wwe

[IGRIGI]

Best thing about Smackdown last night was Paige's chebs.

[hibs#1]

Best thing about Smackdown last night was Paige's chebs.
Haha 😂😂😂

[Steve-O]

Another excellent NXT Takeover today.

[hibs#1]

Another excellent NXT Takeover today.

Only watched the tag title match so far but it was outstanding.Tyler Bate at 21 years old is better than a lot of wrestlers could ever dream about.

[SteveHFC]

Another excellent NXT Takeover today.

NXT is better than it was 3 years ago.

Really hope Lesnar loses the title tonight.

[hfc rd]

NXT is better than it was 3 years ago.

Really hope Lesnar loses the title tonight.


I also hope Lesnar loses the title tonight but then Braun Strowman or Kevin Owens cash in MITB and win the title from Roman Reigns.

[Steve-O]

I really struggle with the main roster at the minute. Some decent matches but I struggled to care about any of them. Underwhelmed really. There are just no real surprises any more.

[SteveHFC]

Decent show this morning considering some of the ending's to matches were ridiculous.

Becky heel turn, Seth v Dolph, Brock losing the title all highlights for myself.

[Hibbie_Cameron]

I really struggle with the main roster at the minute. Some decent matches but I struggled to care about any of them. Underwhelmed really. There are just no real surprises any more.

The main roaster stuff is mostly garabge. Last nights show had a few decent matches but even then they were the matches with Rollins and Bryan involved who are just superb against anyone.


TBF they have done well in getting people to turn on Lesnar but still Reigns gets very little cheers. Thought the main event was a farce tbh

[hfc rd]

Decent show this morning considering some of the ending's to matches were ridiculous.

Becky heel turn, Seth v Dolph, Brock losing the title all highlights for myself.


You could tell the Becky heel turn was on the cards once Charlotte won it from right under Becky’s nose. Could see it coming a mile off. Was hoping for a Ambrose heel turn as well on Rollins but that might happen in due course.

[Onceinawhile]

Smack down this week was immense.

Raw was OK. Not a big fan of the shield as I missed their first go round so I'm not beholden to them like many.

Joe v aj at hiac will be 💥💥

[hibs#1]

Smack down this week was immense.

Raw was OK. Not a big fan of the shield as I missed their first go round so I'm not beholden to them like many.

Joe v aj at hiac will be 💥💥


The Sheild were awesome when they were treated as 3 equals while now it's more about pushing Roman even more as the leader.

Samoa Joe is on fire right now and Styles is still unreal in the ring.

An other point is the Becky vs Charlotte fued has gotten the roles the wrong way round Becky is the face here.Hope she gets the title win.

[SteveHFC]

The ending of raw was pathetic.

Turning Strowman heel just to get people to cheer for Roman.

[hibs#1]

The ending of raw was pathetic.

Turning Strowman heel just to get people to cheer for Roman.

Better get used to it sadly.McIntrye is supposedly up next for Roman.Smackdown continues to be very good though as long as they give Becky the big win.

[SteveHFC]

Rumours of Shawn Michaels coming out of retirement.

Daniel Bryan signs a new deal with WWE.

[hfc rd]

Looks like Matt Hardy has retired

[SteveHFC]

Last night was a decent ppv.

[Steve-O]

Last night was a decent ppv.

With a terrible ending though :rolleyes:

[hibs#1]

Who's all excited for the super show down tomorrow............... Nah me either!!!

[Onceinawhile]

At least becky balboa retained. Can't see any title changes today.

[hibs#1]

At least becky balboa retained. Can't see any title changes today.

AJ retains as well.

[hfc rd]

At least becky balboa retained. Can't see any title changes today.


Who won the HHH VS Taker match?

[SteveHFC]

Watched it all before heading to easter road.

A poor ppv. It's sad WWE are relying on old stars these days.

[IGRIGI]

Watched it all before heading to easter road.

A poor ppv. It's sad WWE are relying on old stars these days.

I don't think it's something that will end any time soon, I read a few articles saying Vince has an open cheque book for his Saudi events, the Rock is getting mega bucks for a planned return.

[Onceinawhile]

Who won the HHH VS Taker match?

Hhh, but it's just a set up for Saudi Arabia where hbk tarnishes his retirement.

Can't understand why the past like Hhh and taker are on the card but, balor, wyatt, corbin or sasha or bayley or 3ven carmella aren't.

Its a nonsense. How will the future legends be born if they don't get any hype.

[McD]

Hhh, but it's just a set up for Saudi Arabia where hbk tarnishes his retirement.

Can't understand why the past like Hhh and taker are on the card but, balor, wyatt, corbin or sasha or bayley or 3ven carmella aren't.

Its a nonsense. How will the future legends be born if they don't get any hype.


Its this kind of repeated pattern that may end up costing the WWE dear in the medium term future, the ‘legends’ can’t keep going forever

[hibs#1]

Apparently the Saudi prince that's paying many millions for these events is big fan of 90s wrestling hence why they want older stars for them. Allegedly asked for Yokozuna and Ultimate Warrior to appear 🙄
The Rock,Stone Cold and Hogan will all be back for one in the future guaranteed.

[SteveHFC]

Last night’s raw was back to 1998.

[Onceinawhile]

Thought raw was good, but d generation x? They were about railing against authority, now they are quite literally (in hhh's case) the authority.

Shield v braun, drew and ziggler was cracking. Crowd seemed into strowman v drew as well.

[SteveHFC]

Smackdown 1000 tonight should be good.

[SteveHFC]

Really sad news about Roman.

Hope he he comes back stronger than ever.

[hibs#1]

Really sad news about Roman.

Hope he he comes back stronger than ever.

Just seen this terrible news hope he beats it and comes back better than ever.

[SteveHFC]

The ending of raw was outstanding

[hibs#1]

The ending of raw was outstanding

Best time to turn Ambrose when it was least Expected, very ballsy move by WWE.should give both guys a ton of momentum.

[ian cruise]

Hhh, but it's just a set up for Saudi Arabia where hbk tarnishes his retirement.

Can't understand why the past like Hhh and taker are on the card but, balor, wyatt, corbin or sasha or bayley or 3ven carmella aren't.

Its a nonsense. How will the future legends be born if they don't get any hype.

Saudi won't allow the women to wrestle, that's the reason why you're getting a women only ppv to take the heat off that decision, however it's a good thing for women's wrestling to get such a spotlight, even if it came about through bad means.

[Onceinawhile]

Saudi won't allow the women to wrestle, that's the reason why you're getting a women only ppv to take the heat off that decision, however it's a good thing for women's wrestling to get such a spotlight, even if it came about through bad means.

Quite right, I'd obviously forgotten about that.

Despite all the pressure looks like crown jewel is going ahead in Saudi.

Presumably braun wins the title? Then fights with drew over it.

[SteveHFC]

Quite right, I'd obviously forgotten about that.

Despite all the pressure looks like crown jewel is going ahead in Saudi.

Presumably braun wins the title? Then fights with drew over it.

Or Brock wins it again.

[hfc rd]

Or Brock wins it again.


I hope not!

[hibs#1]

Daniel Bryan also not going to Saudi Arabia,and Becky gets a match Vs Ronda at survivor series might even main event it.

[Onceinawhile]

Daniel Bryan also not going to Saudi Arabia,and Becky gets a match Vs Ronda at survivor series might even main event it.

Good on him for sticking to his guns.

I can't imagine Joe is going to dethrone AJ though, surely if he was he would have done it by now? In fact, I just can't see anyone taking the title from AJ anytime soon. (Unless Orton wins this world cup shenanigans).

[hibs#1]

Good on him for sticking to his guns.

I can't imagine Joe is going to dethrone AJ though, surely if he was he would have done it by now? In fact, I just can't see anyone taking the title from AJ anytime soon. (Unless Orton wins this world cup shenanigans).


Yes Bryan is seems really good guy with good morals.

Not really sure who will be next in line for AJ, wouldn't be against Joe winning but I doubt he will,Orton like you say is probably the top heel on Smackdown but I don't see the point in giving AJ this long title reign just to put Orton over.

Only other top heel I could challenging AJ would be The Miz.

[SteveHFC]

I hope not!

That’s me quit watching raw

Putting the title back on Brock is a joke.

[hibs#1]

That’s me quit watching raw

Putting the title back on Brock is a joke.

Even better Shane just won the world cup 😂😂

[SteveHFC]

Even better Shane just won the world cup 😂😂

Shawn looks awful without his long hair.

[hibs#1]

Shawn looks awful without his long hair.

He does look weird still looks in fantastic shape from the pictures I've seen,I'm not actually watching tonight WWE cancelled my subscription to the network for some reason. Think I'll just wait till Royal Rumble time to renew it don't think I'm missing much just now.

[SteveHFC]

He does look weird still looks in fantastic shape from the pictures I've seen,I'm not actually watching tonight WWE cancelled my subscription to the network for some reason. Think I'll just wait till Royal Rumble time to renew it don't think I'm missing much just now.

Especially with Brock part time champion again.

[Onceinawhile]

I hope that miz was honestly injured and unable to take part otherwise, that is the worst booking decision since, the match before when brock took the title.

Even worse when Seth is intercontinental champion and tag team, meaning one of those belts will be tied up too.

[hfc rd]

Was going to watch Crown Jewel last night but after hearing that both Lesnar won the UC and Shane won the WC, I didn’t bother in the end. Absolutely pathetic!

Considering just packing it in with WWE altogether as it’s just getting worse.

[SteveHFC]

Was going to watch Crown Jewel last night but after hearing that both Lesnar won the UC and Shane won the WC, I didn’t bother in the end. Absolutely pathetic!

Considering just packing it in with WWE altogether as it’s just getting worse.

Something has to be done with WWE. I used to stay up for Raw and Smackdown. But i'll just catch up with them on youtube the following morning. Not worth losing sleep over anymore. I'll still watch the PPV's live.

We need another wrestling company to become as big as WWE. NJPW is that company.

[hfc rd]

Something has to be done with WWE. I used to stay up for Raw and Smackdown. But i'll just catch up with them on youtube the following morning. Not worth losing sleep over anymore. I'll still watch the PPV's live.

We need another wrestling company to become as big as WWE. NJPW is that company.

Yeah I do the same Steve. Don’t bother staying up for Raw & Smackdown and just catch the YouTube highlights later in the week. The PPV I do watch from time to time but not bothered if I miss one. Will only watch Wrestlemania live.

In regards to your 2nd paragraph, whatever happened to TNA? I remember it used to be a very good wrestling company when it started and was hoping for a feud between WWE vs TNA to erupt. Similar to WWF vs WCW during the attitude era. Now it’s nowhere to be seen and many of its best wrestlers have either switched over to WWE (AJ Styles, Samoa Joe etc) or retired.

[SteveHFC]

Yeah I do the same Steve. Don’t bother staying up for Raw & Smackdown and just catch the YouTube highlights later in the week. The PPV I do watch from time to time but not bothered if I miss one. Will only watch Wrestlemania live.

In regards to your 2nd paragraph, whatever happened to TNA? I remember it used to be a very good wrestling company when it started and was hoping for a feud between WWE vs TNA to erupt. Similar to WWF vs WCW during the attitude era. Now it’s nowhere to be seen and many of its best wrestlers have either switched over to WWE (AJ Styles, Samoa Joe etc) or retired.

TNA is called impact wrestling these days. One of their recent ppv's was meant to be one of the best shows of the year.

I would love if all the other major wrestling companies merged to compete with WWE.

[hfc rd]

TNA is called impact wrestling these days. One of their recent ppv's was meant to be one of the best shows of the year.

I would love if all the other major wrestling companies merged to compete with WWE.


Ahh right, I didn’t know that. Cheers 👍🏾Was very good between 2005-2010 and was making its self known in the wrestling world. Had a very good talented roster and the matches were very entertaining to watch as well.

Would absolutely love to see that too. Would be class if it did happen.

[nellio]

I've stopped watching it. I just catch up online. I do like watching the big 4 ppvs though so I'll probably watch SS.

[Onceinawhile]

Becky lynch apparently out of survivors series with a concussion. Which is a disaster as she's on fire right now.

[hfc rd]

Becky lynch apparently out of survivors series with a concussion. Which is a disaster as she's on fire right now.


Looks like she broke her nose last night on that Raw invasion.

If what you are saying is true and she is indeed out of Survivor Series, won’t be surprised if it is Charlotte Flaur that now faces Rousey at Survivor Series.

[hibs#1]

Looks like she broke her nose last night on that Raw invasion.

If what you are saying is true and she is indeed out of Survivor Series, won’t be surprised if it is Charlotte Flaur that now faces Rousey at Survivor Series.

It is true and Charlotte will face Rousey. Could see Becky coming and destroying the two of them and causing a Dq keeps everyone looking good.Becky is the best thing in WWE right now.

Also now have Daniel Bryan as WWE Champ now. Can't say I saw that one coming.

[SteveHFC]

It is true and Charlotte will face Rousey. Could see Becky coming and destroying the two of them and causing a Dq keeps everyone looking good.Becky is the best thing in WWE right now.

Also now have Daniel Bryan as WWE Champ now. Can't say I saw that one coming.

Really hope we get Becky v Ronda at WM35 instead of Charlotte v Ronda.

[hfc rd]

It is true and Charlotte will face Rousey. Could see Becky coming and destroying the two of them and causing a Dq keeps everyone looking good.Becky is the best thing in WWE right now.

Also now have Daniel Bryan as WWE Champ now. Can't say I saw that one coming.


Enjoyed SD. Agree, I love this new side of Becky.

Neither did I expect Daniel Bryan to beat AJ and win the title nor seen that heel turn coming 😲

[Onceinawhile]

Really hope we get Becky v Ronda at WM35 instead of Charlotte v Ronda.

Becky should vacate and stay out until a surprise return at the rumble, win it and choose Ronda for mania Imo.

A d bry heel turn though? Not sure I get it, especially one so quick.

[hibee62]

It is true and Charlotte will face Rousey. Could see Becky coming and destroying the two of them and causing a Dq keeps everyone looking good.Becky is the best thing in WWE right now.

Also now have Daniel Bryan as WWE Champ now. Can't say I saw that one coming.

One rumour I saw said that Bryan winning was just so Styles wouldn’t break lesnar’s modern day world title record. Sadly it’s not hard to believe that.

I did also see that he’s been pushing to go heel for a while, that could be interesting.

[hfc rd]

Charlotte’s assault last night on Ronda Rousey at Survivor Series 😮

Didn’t see that coming even though I enjoyed it 😁

[SteveHFC]

Ronda v Becky v Charlotte at wrestlemania 35. :hyper

[hibs#1]

Ronda v Becky v Charlotte at wrestlemania 35. :hyper

I'm in 😀. Vince going to be on Raw tonight for some big shake up,hopefully not an other false dawn.

[SteveHFC]

Some very good matches at Royal Rumble this year.

[hibs#1]

Some very good matches at Royal Rumble this year.

Yes looks a very good card.id even say the smackdown tag match could be fun as well.

[Hibeesmad]

Thinking of putting a wee bet on the royal rumble this year. Who do you think will win it?

[hibs#1]

Thinking of putting a wee bet on the royal rumble this year. Who do you think will win it?

Rollins or McIntyre.

[Hibeesmad]

Rollins or McIntyre.

Lot of people saying the same thing. How about Strowman? Seems to have been backed a lot after recent events

[SteveHFC]

Thinking of putting a wee bet on the royal rumble this year. Who do you think will win it?

Check sky bet later in the week mate. So many request a bet choices.


This came in from last year's rumble.
http://www.pieandbovril.com/forum/uploads/monthly_2018_01/AB4287CE-0FD5-45E0-9579-EBD4C574999F.png.62b1264b8ba541d5ada8112c573431ce. png

[hibs#1]

Lot of people saying the same thing. How about Strowman? Seems to have been backed a lot after recent events

Very possible but I just don't see it happening. I think they just see Strowman as the new Big Show might win a title here and there but won't ever be the main guy.

[Hibeesmad]

Check sky bet later in the week mate. So many request a bet choices.


This came in from last year's rumble.
http://www.pieandbovril.com/forum/uploads/monthly_2018_01/AB4287CE-0FD5-45E0-9579-EBD4C574999F.png.62b1264b8ba541d5ada8112c573431ce. png

Will do 👍

[Onceinawhile]

Thinking of putting a wee bet on the royal rumble this year. Who do you think will win it?

Depends what happens in the title match. If asuka wins that, then I think becky wins the rumble.

If lynch wins the title, then I think Charlotte wins the rumble.

Rollins to win the men's rumble and mcintyre most eliminations.

[SteveHFC]

Ronda leaving WWE after wrestlemania and wants to put over Becky.

[hibs#1]

Roman reigns not out of the question yet.

[SteveHFC]

Anyone else staying up for the rumble tonight. Should be good.

[Boydyhfc]

Expecting any surprise returns, especially in the Rumble? - The Rock?

[SteveHFC]

Dean Ambrose leaving in april.

Gutted.

[pontius pilate]

Dean Ambrose leaving in april.

Gutted

He is just a number of superstars to have a requested to leave looks as well though AEW will be getting some big hitters and looks in good shape WWE really needs to up.its game and quickly. I mean brock retaining again really.

[hibs#1]

Hideo itami leaving as well now.

[SteveHFC]

Can generally see AEW getting big as wwe in the future.

[hibs#1]

Can generally see AEW getting big as wwe in the future.

Don't know about as big WWE are huge if they get some good TV contracts they definitely can become the number 2 company worldwide. One advantage they have is the Khan's are loaded

[Onceinawhile]

Depends what happens in the title match. If asuka wins that, then I think becky wins the rumble.

If lynch wins the title, then I think Charlotte wins the rumble.

Rollins to win the men's rumble and mcintyre most eliminations.

Should have put a bet on 😂

[hibs#1]

Who we thinking Daniel Bryan will face at Wrestlemania? Can't see many options for a 1on1 match for him on smackdown. And I don't think they will do other multi man match so close to elimination chamber.

[SteveHFC]

Who we thinking Daniel Bryan will face at Wrestlemania? Can't see many options for a 1on1 match for him on smackdown. And I don't think they will do other multi man match so close to elimination chamber.

Cena.

[Northernhibee]

Brock Lesnar supposedly going to be in talks with AEW.

Would be good for both parties IMO, get him away from the sports entertainment side of things, every time he faces more of an indie style wrestler he looks a different man.

[SteveHFC]

Kurt Angle to address his future on Monday.

Brock, Kurt, Nakamura, Sanity, Ambrose etc all talks in leaving.

[Northernhibee]

Kurt Angle to address his future on Monday.

Brock, Kurt, Nakamura, Sanity, Ambrose etc all talks in leaving.

Efe to AEW? :hyper

[Bangkok Hibby]

Ive just been having a look through the other sports section and come across this thread. Ive never had an interest in this sort of sport as Ive always believed its just entertainment and fake. A quick search on the internet just now pretty much backs this up. So my question is if this "sport" is fake, why would anyone in their right mind put bets on?

[Future17]

Ive just been having a look through the other sports section and come across this thread. Ive never had an interest in this sort of sport as Ive always believed its just entertainment and fake. A quick search on the internet just now pretty much backs this up. So my question is if this "sport" is fake, why would anyone in their right mind put bets on?

Ah, the old "fake" description again! :-)

To answer your question, I suppose people would bet on it for many of the same reasons they bet on sport. For example; it enhances their enjoyment of watching the event or, based on what they know about the event, they think they can predict the outcome.

[Bangkok Hibby]

Ah, the old "fake" description again! :-)

To answer your question, I suppose people would bet on it for many of the same reasons they bet on sport. For example; it enhances their enjoyment of watching the event or, based on what they know about the event, they think they can predict the outcome.

Hi, I dont mean to disrespect your sport but if there is even an element of "fixing" shall we say then betting on it must surely equate to pure luck. Other sports betting at least you can study form to an extent.
Anyway I dont know enough about it to comment with any real knowledge. Just wondering 😀

[Future17]

Hi, I dont mean to disrespect your sport but if there is even an element of "fixing" shall we say then betting on it must surely equate to pure luck. Other sports betting at least you can study form to an extent.
Anyway I dont know enough about it to comment with any real knowledge. Just wondering 😀

No disrespect detected and I totally understand where you're coming from. The "fake" description is a bit too simplistic for me though considering what the guys and girls who take part put their bodies through.

Vince McMahon calls it "sports entertainment" rather than a sport because, as you've said, the outcome is pre-determined.

With regard to the betting side, you can study form in a strange way; it's not so much to do with the performances of the wrestlers, as it is to do with the pattern of results, the direction of the company, upcoming events etc. You might also factor in things like where the event is being held, the wrestlers contract situation etc.

[ian cruise]

Hi, I dont mean to disrespect your sport but if there is even an element of "fixing" shall we say then betting on it must surely equate to pure luck. Other sports betting at least you can study form to an extent.
Anyway I dont know enough about it to comment with any real knowledge. Just wondering 😀

It's much the same as people putting bets on outcome of soap opera storylines "who was the murderer" & "who survived the big explosion". The outcomes are scripted like a TV show, the physical nature is real hence why it's still classed as a sport by many. The feats of athleticism in some cases are pretty impressive.

[Northernhibee]

If it entertains people and doesn't do any harm then I don't get the issue over wrestling. The betting thing, I can kind of understand, but people bet on Strictly, Bake Off, The Apprentice etc. and often these are filmed in advance. Same idea.

[SteveHFC]

If it entertains people and doesn't do any harm then I don't get the issue over wrestling. The betting thing, I can kind of understand, but people bet on Strictly, Bake Off, The Apprentice etc. and often these are filmed in advance. Same idea.

I've won a few hundred on 2 wrestling events over the past year. :cb

[Future17]

I've won a few hundred on 2 wrestling evens over the past year. :cb

Must have been large stakes to win that amount at those odds. ;-)

[SteveHFC]

Must have been large stakes to win that amount at those odds. ;-)

Had a 50/1 come in last year one event and had a fiver on this year's rumble at 18/1.

[Future17]

Had a 50/1 come in last year one event and had a fiver on this year's rumble at 18/1.

Sorry, was a bad joke on the "evens" typo.

[SteveHFC]

Sorry, was a bad joke on the "evens" typo.

Yeah noticed my mistake earlier. :greengrin

[SteveHFC]

Anyone staying up for EC tonight. Not many matches look appealing.

[hibs#1]

Anyone staying up for EC tonight. Not many matches look appealing.

Mens chamber match should be very good other than that the card is poor looking.

[SteveHFC]

Mens chamber match should be very good other than that the card is poor looking.

Apparently the tag match in the chamber is the main event.

[Future17]

Bruce Prichard apparently back working creative for WWE as of tonight's RAW.

[SteveHFC]

Roman back on raw tonight

[Hibeesmad]

One of the best Monday Night Raw’s in a long time.

Bautista v Triple H at Wrestlemania.

[Onceinawhile]

Roman back on raw tonight


Glad to hear he is doing well. Will watch it tonight :agree:

[SteveHFC]

Raw women's title match to main event wrestlemania.

[hibs#1]

Raw women's title match to main event wrestlemania.

It's the right choice(as long as Becky wins) Charlotte now smackdown womens champion, not quite sure what that's about.

[Onceinawhile]

It's the right choice(as long as Becky wins) Charlotte now smackdown womens champion, not quite sure what that's about.

Saw a theory that becky wins the raw championship at mania. Bayley and sasha retain. Then sasha, bayley, becky and Charlotte all have titles. Then the other three ufc horse women back up Ronda to kick off a 4 v 4 feud.

[hibs#1]

Saw a theory that becky wins the raw championship at mania. Bayley and sasha retain. Then sasha, bayley, becky and Charlotte all have titles. Then the other three ufc horse women back up Ronda to kick off a 4 v 4 feud.


Sounds plausible. Only thing being isn't Ronda chucking it for a while at least after wrestlemania?

[SteveHFC]

Saw a theory that becky wins the raw championship at mania. Bayley and sasha retain. Then sasha, bayley, becky and Charlotte all have titles. Then the other three ufc horse women back up Ronda to kick off a 4 v 4 feud.

Poor Asuka.

Charlotte winning the title is a complete joke.

[Onceinawhile]

Poor Asuka.

Charlotte winning the title is a complete joke.

She's been built up just to get spat out by Charlotte. Becky and Charlotte on raw since the rumble and then one of them wins the smackdown title. It's a nonsense.

[SteveHFC]

Raw apparently coming back to Glasgow in November.

[SteveHFC]

Anyone else not arsed about Wrestlemania on Sunday?

I'll watch it live since i'm off the next day but the build up this year has been shocking.

[Mon Dieu4]

Once again takeover has been fantastic, still Cole Johnny Wrestling to go as well :top marks

[SteveHFC]

Once again takeover has been fantastic, still Cole Johnny Wrestling to go as well :top marks

That Cole-Johnny match was outstanding :top marks

Wrestlemania tomorrow night will struggle to be better jam last night nxt’s.

[Northernhibee]

Anyone else not arsed about Wrestlemania on Sunday?

I'll watch it live since i'm off the next day but the build up this year has been shocking.
They’ve properly ****ed over both Rollins and the entire women’s division.

You just know Big E is going to screw Kofi over too. The Bryan monologue was so blatant.

[Onceinawhile]

They’ve properly ****ed over both Rollins and the entire women’s division.

You just know Big E is going to screw Kofi over too. The Bryan monologue was so blatant.

Not seen smackdown yet, but he better f'n not!!!

[SteveHFC]

They’ve properly ****ed over both Rollins and the entire women’s division.

You just know Big E is going to screw Kofi over too. The Bryan monologue was so blatant.

Becky and Seth will win. Kofi will lose his.

Wouldn't be surprised if they made Charlotte win.

[Onceinawhile]

Bret Hart attacked whilst giving his hof speech.

Boy who did it got absolutely battered by Shane o, big e, ronda's husband and most notably dash.

[nellio]

Davey boy Smith Jr jumps in as well, you can see him in the gold trousers!

[hibs#1]

Some wrestling are right ********s top security though 🙄 only watched the 1st 2 takeover matches got to say they were excellent.

[SteveHFC]

Some wrestling are right ********s top security though 🙄 only watched the 1st 2 takeover matches got to say they were excellent.

Some wrestling fans are a disgrace. I've been to a few wwe events in glasgow but it does stop you going due to the amount idiots at these events.

[hibs#1]

Some wrestling fans are a disgrace. I've been to a few wwe events in glasgow but it does stop you going due to the amount idiots at these events.

I've never been to an event sadly. But I can imagine some of them are brutal, a quick glance through social media or forums shows that quite quickly.

[Onceinawhile]

Nese beats Murphy, Mella wins the women's battle royale. Revival beaten by Hawkins and ryder for some reason. Kick off show has been terrible (as usual).

2 title changes early on, might mean there's not too many later.

[SteveHFC]

Nese beats Murphy, Mella wins the women's battle royale. Revival beaten by Hawkins and ryder for some reason. Kick off show has been terrible (as usual).

2 title changes early on, might mean there's not too many later.

Becky with the Conor McGregor Entrance would be sweet.

[Onceinawhile]

Becky with the Conor McGregor Entrance would be sweet.

She said something that I thought was a McGregor tease, something like double champ, or champ champ. That's what he was calling himself wasn't it?

[SteveHFC]

Get Hulk Hogan to ****.

[SteveHFC]

Rollins getting buried.

[Onceinawhile]

Get Hulk Hogan to ****.

Agreed.

[SteveHFC]

Scenes. :thumbsup:

[Onceinawhile]

Rollins getting buried.

That was an odd, odd match. Right result, but wtf?

[David_D]

Guessing that’s Brock away.

[Onceinawhile]

Guessing that’s Brock away.

Hope so.

[SteveHFC]

Styles-Orton now this should be great.

[Onceinawhile]

Styles-Orton now this should be great.

Hope so, working the morn, so it's the last match I'm watching live!

[nellio]

Get Hulk Hogan to ****.

Makes a joke about him getting the name wrong a few years ago then gets the venue name wrong again.

Why are they bothering wheeling him out again.

[nellio]

Guessing that’s Brock away.

Back to UFC to fight Cormier.

[Hibeesmad]

The Miz and Shane was a great fight. The stadium is brilliant too.

[SteveHFC]

Great PPV so far except for Shane winning.

Iiconics winning the tag team belts is class.

[SteveHFC]

Motn.

[David_D]

That was superb.

[SteveHFC]

Old School Cena :hyper

[SaulGoodman]

Amazing.

[SteveHFC]

Angle :(.

[SteveHFC]

Wrestlemania this year was better than the previous 3 years.

Seth, Becky, Finn, The IIconics and Kofi winning their titles was brilliant. Old School Cena back too. Angle retiring will hurt me more than i could imagine as he's one of my favourite wrestlers of all time. Triple H-Batista was good. Shane going over Miz is a joke.

Kofi's reaction and ending will go down in history as one of the greatest moments in WWE.

[Northernhibee]

That was a good Wrestlemania. Thought that Shane vs Miz was way more entertaining than expected, really enjoyed the women's tag team title match, Kofi winning was a moment and I expected a New Day heel turn against him. Triple H vs Batista was poor and overlong and I really hope that the end of the main event was a botch because if it's been booked as an ending to protect Charlotte or Ronda to continue the feud then that'd suck - first womens main event at WM deserves a clean win.

I give it eight muscly biceps out of ten.

[nellio]

Enjoyed it but felt it was too long. Could cut an hour out of it.

[Northernhibee]

Enjoyed it but felt it was too long. Could cut an hour out of it.

I kind of think that it needs to be the opposite and go to two days. One night headlined by the Universal title, the other the WWE heavyweight title. Go for 4 and a half hours each show. Cut the **** nostalgia matches out.

Look at the talent on the pre show. Asuka, Braun, the Hardys, Gallows and Anderson, The Revival, Ruby Riott and a whole lot more who are so under-utilised.

[SteveHFC]

Raw and Smackdown so far has been terrible.

Disgraceful.

[Future17]

War Raiders renamed "The Viking Experience" for main roster debut. Is this the first tag team named after a walking tour of York?

[SteveHFC]

How bad is WWE right now. Worst it's ever been and they don't seem to be improving. Fast forward 10 years time and it'll end up like TNA.

[Onceinawhile]

War Raiders renamed "The Viking Experience" for main roster debut. Is this the first tag team named after a walking tour of York?

:top marks


How bad is WWE right now. Worst it's ever been and they don't seem to be improving. Fast forward 10 years time and it'll end up like TNA.

Totally given up on it just now. They're not even trying to keep up the pretense of a brand split. Just chucking folk everywhere. Nonsense.

I thought AEW would make them raise their game, not looking like it.

[SteveHFC]

Raw confirmed to be at the hydro in November.

[Future17]

How bad is WWE right now. Worst it's ever been and they don't seem to be improving. Fast forward 10 years time and it'll end up like TNA.

I've not watched RAW or Smackdown for months. As a fan of "Something to Wrestle...", I was hoping Bruce Prichard's return to WWE might bring about an improvement, but I understand that hasn't happened. I think a large part of the problem is the bloated roster and the related brand split. With that in mind, I think sustained competition from AEW might be the best thing to happen to WWE longer-term.

NXT continues to be enjoyable, but they take the time to develop proper storyline and the matches are generally good (and the standard at each Takeover is phenomenal). Things on NXT are a bit transitional since losing Black, Ricochet etc. but there is still enough strong main characters, with interesting developing talent underneath, to keep things entertaining. I just hope the main roster shows have sorted their act out by the time TVD is promoted, because that boy is a class act.

[pontius pilate]

So just read that sky sports is losing WWE Bt sports has seemingly got the rights for it now. IT has the rights for AEW at least that's on freeview t.v with ITV showing double or nothing on May 25th

[Onceinawhile]

So just read that sky sports is losing WWE Bt sports has seemingly got the rights for it now. IT has the rights for AEW at least that's on freeview t.v with ITV showing double or nothing on May 25th

Where's you see that? (about wwe)

[hibs#1]

Where's you see that? (about wwe)

Ive seen it reported a few places nothing official though.

AEW going on Itv is quite interesting again nothing official other than double or nothing being on Itv ppv. But I'd imagine they might pick up the weekly TV show.

[hibs#1]

Brocks back.

[SteveHFC]

Brocks back.

Watched the first 2 hours of MITB before watching Game of Thrones. Managed just to see the ending of the men’s MITB match. This company doesn’t learn from their mistakes.

Can’t wait to watch AEW on Saturday for the first time and hope it get massive ratings to get WWE panicking.

[hibs#1]

Watched the first 2 hours of MITB before watching Game of Thrones. Managed just to see the ending of the men’s MITB match. This company doesn’t learn from their mistakes.

Can’t wait to watch AEW on Saturday for the first time and hope it get massive ratings to get WWE panicking.


Didn't watch last night and haven't since wrestlemania. I agree hopefully AEW takes off and gets Vince to realise his product is ****. They have unbelievable talent on the roster as well he just doesn't have a clue how to use it.

Apparently there is a new title getting debuted on raw tonight as well😂

[SteveHFC]

£63 the cheapest ticket for raw in Glasgow in November. 😂

I’ll just hold off and get a ticket cheaper nearer the event.

[Onceinawhile]

£63 the cheapest ticket for raw in Glasgow in November. 😂

I’ll just hold off and get a ticket cheaper nearer the event.

£63 :faf::faf:

Apparently Pac v Hangman page at double or nothing is off... might be a work though.

[Northernhibee]

Ziggler's promo was fantastic. He deserves a good run. His promo ability reminds me of William Regal, able to do serious or comedy both excellently and utterly believable.

[DrSpaceMonkey]

AEW pre show is free on ITV4 12am-1:15am

[SteveHFC]

AEW pre show is free on ITV4 12am-1:15am

How much is it for the ppv tonight.

[DrSpaceMonkey]

How much is it for the ppv tonight.

£15

[Northernhibee]

That was good. Competent and simple writing, good in ring action - a really good antidote to the silly overbooking of WWE.

[hibs#1]

That was good. Competent and simple writing, good in ring action - a really good antidote to the silly overbooking of WWE.

Only seen bits so far but looks a good start. Looks a lot less sanitised and corporate than WWE.

[DrSpaceMonkey]

Wasn’t expecting much but rather enjoyed it.

[SteveHFC]

Never watched AEW last night. But saw the ending on twitter.

Need to watch it at some point.

[hibs#1]

Jon Moxley vs Juice Robinson on the njpw show was very good. He looks like a new man away from wwe.

[SteveHFC]

Finally watched Double or Nothing.

That was impressive. Enjoyed every match on the ppv.

Cody is a star. :top marks

[Northernhibee]

Raw and Smackdown this week were awful. Where do they go from here?

[hibs#1]

Raw and Smackdown this week were awful. Where do they go from here?

Really no idea, can only see an improvement when Vince hands over to HHH, but we all know that's unlikely to happen any time soon. It's a shame as they have so much talent on the roster.

[Future17]

Lionheart dead at 36. Sounds like suicide.

[Onceinawhile]

Lionheart dead at 36. Sounds like suicide.

Where have you seen that? His last tweet seems really sad if its true.

[DrSpaceMonkey]

Where have you seen that? His last tweet seems really sad if its true.

https://lordsofpain.net/uk-wrestling-veteran-lionheart-passes-away/

[nellio]

Confirmed now. On BBC and sky.

No mention of the cause but unfortunately it does seem to point towards suicide.

Very sad.

[MountcastleHibs]

New TV deal in the UK confirmed. WWE moving to BT Sport from January.

[hibs#1]

Eric Bishcoff and Paul Heyman now in charge of Raw and Smackdown, wonder how much freedom Vince will give them. Also wonder why HHH didn't get one of these jobs?

[Northernhibee]

Eric Bishcoff and Paul Heyman now in charge of Raw and Smackdown, wonder how much freedom Vince will give them. Also wonder why HHH didn't get one of these jobs?

Don't know. Smackdown attendance this week was apparently under 2,000. Raw around 3,500.

Pretty scary figures.

[Onceinawhile]

Don't know. Smackdown attendance this week was apparently under 2,000. Raw around 3,500.

Pretty scary figures.

As in people turning up at the venue??

That is ridiculously low. Almost nothing will change with Heyman and Bischoff being in control, they'll still need to run everything pass VKM.

Did anyone read up on Fyter Fest at the weekend? Seems cody took an unprotected headshot with a steel chair from the man formerly known as Tye Dillinger. Jon Moxley (FKA Dean Ambrose) beat bad boy Joey Janela in an unsanctioned match.

[SteveHFC]

Raw in Glasgow later this year has been changted to a house show.

Thank **** i didn't buy a ticket.

[nellio]

Raw in Glasgow later this year has been changted to a house show.

Thank **** i didn't buy a ticket.

I did! Got a refund on the way!

[SteveHFC]

I did! Got a refund on the way!

Good to see WWE continuing to piss off the uk supporters.

[SteveHFC]

WWE back to square one with Lesnar champ again.

[SteveHFC]

Roman-Buddy Murphy on smackdown this week was fantastic.

[hibs#1]

Walter vs Tyler Bate was phenomenal.

[Mon Dieu4]

All in has been really good, some mental crazy spots!!!

[SteveHFC]

Big talk of Punk coming bsck. Triple H just said on SSN that the door is open.

[ian cruise]

Just watched first AEW show on ITV2, WWE will need something along the lines of Punk to compete. It was an outstanding show. Given WWE big news seems to be hogan vs flair in Saudi its not looking great for them.

[SteveHFC]

Well known UFC star debuted tonight.

[hibs#1]

Well known UFC star debuted tonight.

Thought Smackdown was very good, thought valzquez debut was a bit flat, but the small bits I've seen of him wrestling in Mexico he's very good.

[CloudSquall]

valzquez could've at least sorted out the man boobs before the debut :greengrin

I liked a lot of the Shane Vs Owens match, and even though most people liked Kofi as champion I'm glad to see him lose it, unpopular opinion but for me he's a mid carder at best.

[Onceinawhile]

Tyson Fury getting to speak on Raw tonight.

WTF is going on??

Didn't see HIAC, but I see that the fans were not happy with the booking of the main event.

[CloudSquall]

Chants of AEW, we want a refund, this is BS at the end, somehow Seth got DQ'ed in a Hell in the Cell match...

They somehow managed to make the Fiend look **** at the end and ensure Seth will get booed out the building tonight.

[hibs#1]

Praise them for a good show on Friday and they manage to **** it by Sunday 🙄

[CloudSquall]

Watched the highlights of Seth vs Bray, maximum cringe with the booing and chants.

[SteveHFC]

Chants of AEW, we want a refund, this is BS at the end, somehow Seth got DQ'ed in a Hell in the Cell match...

They somehow managed to make the Fiend look **** at the end and ensure Seth will get booed out the building tonight.

Raw should be good this evening.

[CloudSquall]

Well they just went ahead and completely ignored Hell and the Cell, and who can blame them when Tyson Fury is handing out DEVESTATING left and rights on Raw..

https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1181404604170326017?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1181404604170326017&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fbleacherreport.com%2Fwwe

:greengrin:greengrin

[pontius pilate]

Fury v strowman
Lesnar v Velasquez
Just been announced for crown jewel on the 31/10

[SteveHFC]

Fury v strowman
Lesnar v Velasquez
Just been announced for crown jewel on the 31/10

See he signed a multi-year deal.

[pontius pilate]

See he signed a multi-year deal.

Never realised that. Have you caught any AEW yet? If so what's your thoughts on it?

[SteveHFC]

Never realised that. Have you caught any AEW yet? If so what's your thoughts on it?

Watched their first show mate and only seen a few clips since then. Looks good. :aok:

[CloudSquall]

Tyson Fury getting a reported 12 MILLION GBP for the upcoming appearance in Saudi Arabia :eek::eek:

[DrSpaceMonkey]

If you’re a fan of 70s/80s wrestling check out NWA powerrr. 1hr each week free to watch on YouTube, presented like old southern wrestling with cheesy adverts and graphics included 👍🏻

[Onceinawhile]

Tyson Fury getting a reported 12 MILLION GBP for the upcoming appearance in Saudi Arabia :eek::eek:

Ooft. Decent money. How much is AJ making for his fight? Probably not that much more!


If you’re a fan of 70s/80s wrestling check out NWA powerrr. 1hr each week free to watch on YouTube, presented like old southern wrestling with cheesy adverts and graphics included 👍🏻

Is that the promotion that Master P just bought?

I see Nicki Cross and Alexa Bliss have gone to smackdown. I hope they get a bit more air time as obviously Nicki is Scottish and Alexa, well :cb:cb

[DrSpaceMonkey]

NWA is owned by Billy Corgan from the smashing pumpkins 😄

[pontius pilate]

Cain valesquez taps out to the kimora lock. Brock lesnar wouldnt realese rey jumps in with a chair quickly dealt with by lesnar. Lesnar then attacks valesquez with the chair including a F5 onto the chair. Mysterio then attacks Brock with another chair. I can see this fued lasting for a while

[CloudSquall]

They've really ****ed up with the Fiend with these matches vs Rollins.

Edit: Above was written before him winning the title :greengrin

[pontius pilate]

They've really ****ed up with the Fiend with these matches vs Rollins.

Edit: Above was written before him winning the title :greengrin

Yeah that should be interesting going forward as both titles are now on smackdown

[Onceinawhile]

Yeah that should be interesting going forward as both titles are now on smackdown

The fiend shouldn't be brand specific.

[pontius pilate]

Brock lesnar now going to raw. Of all the matches I would like to have seen it would have been brock v the fiend.
Hopefully survivor series we see brock v the fiend v Adam Cole baby.
Bayley v the man v shayna baszler.

[SteveHFC]

Punk appeared on the backstage show last night. :hyper

[nellio]

Punk appeared on the backstage show last night. :hyper

Surprised about that. I would have thought that AEW was a good fit for him.

[SteveHFC]

Surprised about that. I would have thought that AEW was a good fit for him.

Hopefully just a matter of time he’s back in the ring.

[Mon Dieu4]

Punk appeared on the backstage show last night. :hyper

His contract is with Fox, can see him using this as his way to have a laugh to be honest

[Northernhibee]

Hopefully just a matter of time he’s back in the ring.

I actually think him signing up to something like that is a good as indication that we're going to get that he's not returning to the ring.

[pontius pilate]

Well Bt sports now have WWE and I have to say the coverage so far has been pretty decent they are making a big deal out of it with NXT UK and WWE 24 already having airtime. Interesting to note on smackdown that the Usos returned and made the save for roman could we maybe see a faction happening there

[SteveHFC]

Well Bt sports now have WWE and I have to say the coverage so far has been pretty decent they are making a big deal out of it with NXT UK and WWE 24 already having airtime. Interesting to note on smackdown that the Usos returned and made the save for roman could we maybe see a faction happening there

Loving the BT coverage myself so far.

I do see Roman or KO winning the men's rumble.

[Onceinawhile]

Don't have BT Sport, so having to switch to AEW.

Big fan of Orange Cassidy tbh.

[Mon Dieu4]

Don't have BT Sport, so having to switch to AEW.

Big fan of Orange Cassidy tbh.

Then you have great taste, Orange Cassidy is by far my favourite these days :greengrin

[SteveHFC]

Both rumbles this year seem quite hard to predict.

I see a shock winner in the men's rumble on Sunday.

[Northernhibee]

Both rumbles this year seem quite hard to predict.

I see a shock winner in the men's rumble on Sunday.

Kevin Owens to win the mens IMO, Shayna Baszler for the womens.

Velasquez will eliminate Brock and they'll have a match at the next PPV which gives Owens opportunity to be a special guest ref or do a run in and cost Brock the match, allowing Velasquez to get his Crown Jewel loss back.

Shayna Baszler vs Becky Lynch for WM too.

Drew McIntyre and Liv Morgan to be the iron man and iron woman in the matches.

[hibs#1]

Can't see Vince passing up the opportunity for Roman to win again.

Reigns v The Fiend and Brock v Drew somehow.

As for the women's I'm going for Sasha, otherwise its pretty open Baszler or Charlotte or even a returning Ronda Rousey wouldn't be surprising.

Or what if Asuka beats Becky then Becky wins the Rumble then beats Asuka at Wrestlemania to win back the title,they have been playing up the fact Becky can't beat Asuka.

So in summary I have no idea.

[Onceinawhile]

Surely whoever dumps Brock fights Brock?

Then winner of the rumble goes against the fiend. (assuming d bry doesn't win).

[SteveHFC]

I'm gonna say Drew for the win and Roman can win the chamber next month.

[hibs#1]

I'm gonna say Drew for the win and Roman can win the chamber next month.

Would be a decent outcome.

Apparently Sting is going to be at the Rumble.

[Northernhibee]

Would be a decent outcome.

Apparently Sting is going to be at the Rumble.

Suppose he needs the money after The Police split.

[SteveHFC]

Suppose he needs the money after The Police split.

Very good :greengrin

[Hibeesmad]

Put a tenner on Keith Lee and Rhea Ripley most eliminations at 40/1

[SteveHFC]

Put a tenner on Keith Lee and Rhea Ripley most eliminations at 40/1

Good luck bud. :aok:

Have won bets on the last 2 rumbles myself. :aok:

[SteveHFC]

I'm gonna say Drew for the win and Roman can win the chamber next month.

As you were.

[Northernhibee]

That was a really good PPV. Wrong person won the women’s rumble but can’t fault the rest of the card. Great to see Bianca Belair get a strong showing and the return of Edge was a proper moment.

[SteveHFC]

That was a really good PPV. Wrong person won the women’s rumble but can’t fault the rest of the card. Great to see Bianca Belair get a strong showing and the return of Edge was a proper moment.

:agree:

They made Drew into a star last night in the rumble.

[Northernhibee]

:agree:

They made Drew into a star last night in the rumble.

I look forward to Brock retaining in a fifteen second squash on the WM pre show.

[Northernhibee]

So, how would you book the main section of your WM card (not paying attention to the inevitable Humberto Carrilo vs No Way Jose toilet break matches and the ****ing irritating dance break with R-Truth and a returning Essa Rios?)

Main Event - Drew McIntyre vs Brock Lesnar


They've made Drew look like a proper star and they need to continue down that path. They need to follow this after Brock's pre WM programme (as below) but Drew did an amazing promo in WCPW against Joseph Connors where he talked about the sacrifices he's made when his mother was battling cancer and following his advice, he stayed in the US to continue his wrestling career, and ended it with "At (whatever PPV it is), Joseph Connors, you are ****ed!" and it was the most passionate, incredible promo. They need to get Paul Heyman to go out and do the "My client Brock Lesnar blah blah blah squashed Kofi and Goldberg blah blah Drew McIntyre no different" and have Drew do a similar promo which will get people on side. It has to go on last because it'll be the most feel good moment when he soaks up suplex after suplex and F5 after F5 to hit a massive Claymore and get the cover.

The Fiend vs Daniel Bryan (Title vs Career match)

I want the two of them to not wrestle against each other until WM. I want Bryan to be out for a month and for the Fiend to not do much. I want Bryan to be the one to break the Fiend and win the title. The Fiend doesn't need the title. It may be tasteless but WWE could easily keep Bryan off the TV after sustaining "an injury" and people will fill in the blanks themselves. It'd be quite believeable that Bryan may be retiring (or even using this as an excuse to go to a reduced schedule) so it'd keep people guessing. They'd need to keep the Fiend looking silly strong during it but I want him to go back to being an unhinged dude who wants to hurt people rather than competing for the belt which he doesn't need. Bryan finally gets the better of the Fiend. Perhaps involving some sort of shenanigans with Finn Balor assisting to set up a fresh continuation of their feud.

Edge vs Baron Corbin

I'd have Edge come out on Smackdown this week and challenge the Fiend for the title because he wants to make up for lost time and he felt such an energy from the fans at his Rumble return that he wants to give something back and win the title for them. Sets up the match at the PPV and in a great match that can be more story based in order to protect Edge a little he hits two spears in a row, has the cover until Corbin runs in and pulls Edge off the Fiend, beats the **** out of him and causes the DQ. Ludicrous levels of heat for him. He explains it the following week that he won KOTR, he retired Kurt Angle, he was Mr. Money in the Bank until he was screwed out of it and he's sick of being overlooked and he deserved that title shot. Sets up a feud that will have Edge at ludicrous levels of being over, nuclear heat on Corbin and it writes itself.

Charlotte Flair vs. Rhea Ripley (NXT Womens Championship)

Charlotte chooses to go for the NXT Womens Championship because **** it, out of her facing Bailey, Lynch or Ripley this is a properly fresh feud that would be interesting. I'd even have Ripley go over to put over the NXT brand.

Becky Lynch vs Shayna Baszler
Because that'd be ****ing marvellous

Roman Reigns vs John Cena

Remember their promo that had Cena say that he could do this part time better than Reigns could ever do this full time? There's mileage left in that.

Don't know about the rest of it so far, but fantasy book to your hearts content.

[CloudSquall]

Was listening to a wrestling podcast which said the initial plan up to last week was for Reigns to win the Rumble, I can't imagine the reaction he would have got and would be getting each week if he eliminated Edge and then won it.

[SteveHFC]

They just ruined Bray Wyatt once again.

[hibs#1]

They just ruined Bray Wyatt once again.

Shocking decision. Loved Goldberg back in the day but no need for this now.

[CloudSquall]

That jackhammer :faf:

[Northernhibee]

That is absolutely baffling.

If it is indeed Wyatt vs Cena at WM, then it would make more sense to still have the strap on Wyatt. Can Cena equal Flair's record or will the Fiend retain?

Roman vs Goldberg has such an obvious story, spear vs spear, the legend vs the big dog. Doesn't need the belt at all.

Terrible.

[SteveHFC]

I would rather see Wyatt-Cena with Cena chasing his 17th title and Roman v Goldberg as a singles match.

But once again WWE go with their old stars over upcoming talent.

[CloudSquall]

I really hope AEW sees it's ratings rise to a level their output deserves.

They are doing a great job in getting a lot of the younger / newer stars over, the likes of Allin and Guevara are all impressing week in week out.


You can see what individuals having creative control over their character is doing for them vs the WWE that Vince has under his control.

[CloudSquall]

To add to the above, I don't watch NXT myself, but from what I read the output is a cut above of what Raw and SmackDown produce, what I'd give to have another WCW for a Monday night war to give Vince a boot up the arse..

[Mon Dieu4]

To add to the above, I don't watch NXT myself, but from what I read the output is a cut above of what Raw and SmackDown produce, what I'd give to have another WCW for a Monday night war to give Vince a boot up the arse..

NXT is vastly superior to the other WWE brands, it's not even close

Agree about AEW too, seeing people being able to express themselves and not have scripts is so much better, mon the Orange Cassidy

[Future17]

That is absolutely baffling.

If it is indeed Wyatt vs Cena at WM, then it would make more sense to still have the strap on Wyatt. Can Cena equal Flair's record or will the Fiend retain?

Roman vs Goldberg has such an obvious story, spear vs spear, the legend vs the big dog. Doesn't need the belt at all.

Terrible.

I can only assume they want the belt on Reigns but don't want him having to deal with the heat that comes with beating The Fiend.

Also agree with other comments re: NXT. It's the only show I watch regularly now. I wasn't impressed with early AEW, but might go back and give it another shot.

[CloudSquall]

I wasn't impressed with early AEW, but might go back and give it another shot.

After a dodgy period towards the end of the year they've been hitting it out the park in the past couple of months, definitely worth another try :aok:

[SteveHFC]

After a dodgy period towards the end of the year they've been hitting it out the park in the past couple of months, definitely worth another try :aok:

Think i watched their first show and have just kept up with highlights ever since.

[Onceinawhile]

NXT is vastly superior to the other WWE brands, it's not even close

Agree about AEW too, seeing people being able to express themselves and not have scripts is so much better, mon the Orange Cassidy

His match v pac at revolution was brilliant.