View Full Version : Cup final tickets let the scramble commence
Libby Hibby
22-04-2016, 04:53 PM
:agree::agree:
Fair enough
Its only 5.
17 pages on my phone.
:confused:
Edit. Must be different versions.
Scouse Hibee
22-04-2016, 04:54 PM
How's this for a suggestion:
Season Ticket Holders get to buy two tickets in the first round of sales, but the second ticket must be allocated to a named person from Hibs Database, and that person has to have at least one Loyalty Point.
That way the tickets will actually be rewarding the Loyalty of those supporting the Club, the ST holder is guaranteed to be sitting with a friend if he or she so wishes, no 'Daytrippers' that otherwise never attend get preference over those who actually are Loyal to the Club... and it vastly reduces the risk of ST holders' Rangers Supporting mates sitting in the Hibs End.
Whaddaya all think?
Nah that doesn't suit me at all,my second ticket (if we get one) is going to someone with no points who has been to several games recently.
HibsMax
22-04-2016, 04:57 PM
This has now reached 17 pages.....
the way it is and had been for 2012 and 2013 cup final was
1ticket current season ticket
1 additional ticket if I have renewed.
That's how it will and should be.
Season ticket holder are the lifeblood of the club and should be rewarded. If they want to take their wife/child or dog it's up to them.
If you are in the database with 1 point are you not a day tripper?
As I've said before where were the wallk up fans v Rangers? Or Falkirk or Morton? All midweek games poorly attended.
You're right, the season ticket holders are the lifeblood but what about the people they will be giving their second ticket to? There's no guarantee that they're not daytrippers that people are concerned about. I understand what people are saying - Season Ticket holders deserve special consideration. There is no argument there. The argument is about the people that season ticket holders decide to take with them. Are they not potentially daytrippers too? While I think that Season Ticket holders deserve special consideration, I'm not sure they should be granted the power to decide who gets to see the game and who doesn't and giving them two tickets each certainly has an impact on that.
I haven't read the whole thread but I am sure it's been mentioned that if you want a better chance of getting to the game - go to as many games during the regular season as you can. Do whatever you can to get some loyalty points. For people who cannot get to the game, there's always Hibs TV. 9 quid a month or 90 quid a year. There are ways if you think ahead. People who don't do anything other than scramble at the last minute, I don't know what can be done for them.
I'm not fighting, just giving my opinion. Whatever plan is put into place, there will be some section of people who are left unhappy (just stating a fact, not judging).
Hermit Crab
22-04-2016, 04:59 PM
Close this thread until there's an official club announcement then we can reconvene and discuss how bad the arrangements are :greengrin
HibsMax
22-04-2016, 05:01 PM
Close this thread until there's an official club announcement then we can reconvene and discuss how bad the arrangements are :greengrin
Then what would people talk about? :)
blackpoolhibs
22-04-2016, 05:07 PM
Although its wont affect me, if 2 season tickets are given to season ticket holders, its just shows what a sham the loyalty scheme has been.
One thats hopefully abandoned next season.
DH1875
22-04-2016, 06:11 PM
If someone has say 50 points this season and went to the semifnal and league cup final (no loyalty points for them) then they've spent at least £150 following Hibs. Why should they miss out to a season ticket holders mate or family member who doesn't go?
We have over 20k fans on the database with at least 1 point. Do folk really think this will go to a general sale once season ticket holders and folks with loyalty points get their tickets :confused:
Asked these questions earlier on in the thread and haven't really got an answer yet.
To be honest I'm starting to change my mind and now think that season ticket holders who renew probably should get 2 tickets. Those that dont/havent renewed should 100% only get ONE though.
Ronniekirk
22-04-2016, 06:19 PM
Although its wont affect me, if 2 season tickets are given to season ticket holders, its just shows what a sham the loyalty scheme has been.
One thats hopefully abandoned next season.
Still walk up to some games and pay at pods as i did at Hamden , denying myself loyalty points But will still get Tickets for Final and i am as Loyal a fan as Finances allow So its pointless i my eyes
Andy74
22-04-2016, 06:20 PM
Although its wont affect me, if 2 season tickets are given to season ticket holders, its just shows what a sham the loyalty scheme has been.
One thats hopefully abandoned next season.
Not necessarily. 2 per holder then 1 point and up then general sale. There would still be about 6,000 left for sale. At least, many wouldn't take their 2.
Seems fine for the few hundred walk ups?
SunshineOnLeith
22-04-2016, 06:20 PM
Although its wont affect me, if 2 season tickets are given to season ticket holders, its just shows what a sham the loyalty scheme has been.
One thats hopefully abandoned next season.
I suspect it might just be quietly forgotten about.
Andy74
22-04-2016, 06:21 PM
Asked these questions earlier on in the thread and haven't really got an answer yet.
To be honest I'm starting to change my mind and now think that season ticket holders who renew probably should get 2 tickets. Those that dont/havent renewed should 100% only get ONE though.
Why would they miss out? There would still be thousands left on sale. With less competition as most will have been sorted by a ST mate.
Hibby70
22-04-2016, 06:36 PM
We could do this in waves but only 1 ticket each for the following
Wave 1 - those that have renewed ST
Wave 2 - those that have current ST
Wave 3 - those that buy new ST
Wave 4 - points above 90
Wave 5 - points above 1
That way there's some benefit to those that renew as they get the best choice of seats but they don't get an extra ticket.
DH1875
22-04-2016, 07:01 PM
We could do this in waves but only 1 ticket each for the following
Wave 1 - those that have renewed ST
Wave 2 - those that have current ST
Wave 3 - those that buy new ST
Wave 4 - points above 90
Wave 5 - points above 1
That way there's some benefit to those that renew as they get the best choice of seats but they don't get an extra ticket.
No one else think there should be another wave in-between 1 and 90 points?
jodjam
22-04-2016, 07:05 PM
I suspect it might just be quietly forgotten about.
I think so or altered considerably. I emailed club recently and got a very lengthy reply which did suggest change.
Viva_Palmeiras
22-04-2016, 07:44 PM
http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/6426
I guess Celtc didn't have to cancel the caterers after all ;)
Callum_62
22-04-2016, 08:34 PM
I guess Celtc didn't have to cancel the caterers after all ;)
Assume thats a mistake and its a meal at Hampden?
LancashireHibby
22-04-2016, 08:59 PM
No one else think there should be another wave in-between 1 and 90 points?
As someone on 55 points, I absolutely think so.
IberianHibernian
22-04-2016, 09:03 PM
Assume thats a mistake and its a meal at Hampden?Don`t think so . Meal at Hampden would be Hampden`s own hospitality ( not sure who runs things at Hampden - SFA ? , Queens Park ? other company ? ) which is probably even more expensive and doesn`t include transport . For other finals , Hibs have offered hospitality including meal in hotel in centre of Glasgow .
HibsNutter
22-04-2016, 09:07 PM
Although its wont affect me, if 2 season tickets are given to season ticket holders, its just shows what a sham the loyalty scheme has been.
One thats hopefully abandoned next season.
Why? It's completely served it's purpose. I'd be disappointed in the club if they scrapped it because people who weren't benefiting aren't happy.
DH1875
22-04-2016, 09:16 PM
Why? It's completely served it's purpose. I'd be disappointed in the club if they scrapped it because people who weren't benefiting aren't happy.
Scrapped what? Last 2 Scottish cup finals it was only those that renewed that got 2 tickets. Season ticket holders who hadn't or didn't renew never got 2 tickets.
IberianHibernian
22-04-2016, 09:39 PM
Why? It's completely served it's purpose. I'd be disappointed in the club if they scrapped it because people who weren't benefiting aren't happy.It won`t have served its purpose if fans who don`t have season tickets but go to matches regularly ( problem is how many matches is " regularly " ? ) struggle to get tickets while friends / relatives of season ticket holders may get tickets despite rarely going to matches . Anyway , with important playoff matches home and away ( hopefully we`ll finish 2nd and get promotion after 2 home and 2 away matches but we may need 3 and 3 ) I think it`s understandable that club may look for ticket distribution method which simplifies work .
Hibby70
22-04-2016, 10:31 PM
No one else think there should be another wave in-between 1 and 90 points?
Possibly. If everyone was only guaranteed one ticket then it would depend on numbers (north and south could already be gone by that wave so what difference would it really make). I don't know the figures involved and was just giving an example solution.
Andy74
22-04-2016, 10:37 PM
It won`t have served its purpose if fans who don`t have season tickets but go to matches regularly ( problem is how many matches is " regularly " ? ) struggle to get tickets while friends / relatives of season ticket holders may get tickets despite rarely going to matches . Anyway , with important playoff matches home and away ( hopefully we`ll finish 2nd and get promotion after 2 home and 2 away matches but we may need 3 and 3 ) I think it`s understandable that club may look for ticket distribution method which simplifies work .
Do we have 6,000 regulars who aren't season ticket holders or friends of season ticket holders??
We are doing well at hiding it if we do.
Baldy Foghorn
23-04-2016, 12:18 AM
Although its wont affect me, if 2 season tickets are given to season ticket holders, its just shows what a sham the loyalty scheme has been.
One thats hopefully abandoned next season.
You don't have ST, don't go to matches,but think the loyalty scheme is a sham? Really?
Baldy Foghorn
23-04-2016, 12:19 AM
Pity those bleating on about what may or may not happen, don't go to ER on a regular basis.....:rolleyes:
Onion
23-04-2016, 01:13 AM
Pity those bleating on about what may or may not happen, don't go to ER on a regular basis.....:rolleyes:
No worries, this will be no family final and many of the occasional Hibs fans will be done after 12, 13 and 16.
Which means the hard core Hibs fans will be the ones to witness history. It will be our Greatest Day.
blackpoolhibs
23-04-2016, 06:13 AM
Why? It's completely served it's purpose. I'd be disappointed in the club if they scrapped it because people who weren't benefiting aren't happy.
I'm no lover of the loyalty scheme, but it was brought in apparently to reward those who were loyal. Now it appears those who were loyal seem to want even more, and get two tickets while those further down the loyalty list are shafted.
You couldn't make this sheite up. :faf:
marinello59
23-04-2016, 06:37 AM
I'm no lover of the loyalty scheme, but it was brought in apparently to reward those who were loyal. Now it appears those who were loyal seem to want even more, and get two tickets while those further down the loyalty list are shafted.
You couldn't make this sheite up. :faf:
If you read through the thread it's not a case of some Hibs fans wanting 2 tickets for the final. It's other people moaning about the fact that season ticket holders might get 2. :greengrin
lucky
23-04-2016, 06:45 AM
As a ST who has renewed I expect the club to reward me with 1 for this season and another ticket for next. This tactic has always been used for renewals. So I'd go with this;
1. ST holders 2015/16 1 ticket (2 if renewed)
2. ST holders 2016/17 1 ticket
3. Loyalty points 90 plus 1 ticket
4. HSL/Hibs TV member 1 ticket
5 50 plus loyalty points 1 ticket
6. 1 plus loyalty point 1 ticket
7. General sale
marinello59
23-04-2016, 06:46 AM
As a ST who has renewed I expect the club to reward me with 1 for this season and another ticket for next. This tactic has always been used for renewals. So I'd go with this;
1. ST holders 2015/16 1 ticket (2 if renewed)
2. ST holders 2016/17 1 ticket
3. Loyalty points 90 plus 1 ticket
4. HSL/Hibs TV member 1 ticket
5 50 plus loyalty points 1 ticket
6. 1 plus loyalty point 1 ticket
7. General sale
I'd go with this.
1. Me
2. Don't care.
:greengrin
mcfly
23-04-2016, 07:37 AM
Pity those bleating on about what may or may not happen, don't go to ER on a regular basis.....:rolleyes:
Well said
mcfly
23-04-2016, 07:41 AM
I'm no lover of the loyalty scheme, but it was brought in apparently to reward those who were loyal. Now it appears those who were loyal seem to want even more, and get two tickets while those further down the loyalty list are shafted.
You couldn't make this sheite up. :faf:
In your words your talking 💩
How you can come up with such rubbish and say a season ticket holder who has renewed for next season still not knowing what league we are in doesn't get a reward for paying his £360 up front and is not deserving of another ticket is a joke.
Where are all these loyal fans with 20 -50 points every other week? Yet you think they are more deserving?
Glad you are not on the marketing committee....
Beefster
23-04-2016, 07:51 AM
Although its wont affect me, if 2 season tickets are given to season ticket holders, its just shows what a sham the loyalty scheme has been.
One thats hopefully abandoned next season.
I was a long-term advocate for a membership/loyalty scheme. Its implementation hasn't been the best and, given the amount of bitching that goes on about it and the sense of entitlement that it's engendered in folk who go to a couple of games a season, I think they should just scrap it now.
Get it back to "if you're not a ST holder, you're in the general sale".
Keith_M
23-04-2016, 08:05 AM
Wow, this debate is still going on. You'd think people would just be happy* that we're actually IN the Final
:greengrin
* I will rescind that statement in the even that we lose...again.
ronaldo7
23-04-2016, 08:19 AM
Although its wont affect me, if 2 season tickets are given to season ticket holders, its just shows what a sham the loyalty scheme has been.
One thats hopefully abandoned next season.
It'll only be one for the Season ticket.:wink:
Libby Hibby
23-04-2016, 08:25 AM
I was a long-term advocate for a membership/loyalty scheme. Its implementation hasn't been the best and, given the amount of bitching that goes on about it and the sense of entitlement that it's engendered in folk who go to a couple of games a season, I think they should just scrap it now.
Get it back to "if you're not a ST holder, you're in the general sale".
I think the only bitching comes from them that are least loyal, if they turned up every week or so then their loyalty would be rewarded.
It really is that simple.
I think the only bitching comes from them that are least loyal, if they turned up every week or so then their loyalty would be rewarded.
It really is that simple.
Where's the compassion. Not all Hi bees are well enough or have the money to attend every week or travel may be an issue.
Sound's a bit tory like as per We're rich you're poor sort of argument.
I know you're not a tory just drawing an example. St holders should be happy with one ticket anything else like getting one beside mates/gf/wife etc is surely a huge bonus.
Andy74
23-04-2016, 08:55 AM
Where's the compassion. Not all Hi bees are well enough or have the money to attend every week or travel may be an issue.
Sound's a bit tory like as per We're rich you're poor sort of argument.
I know you're not a tory just drawing an example. St holders should be happy with one ticket anything else like getting one beside mates/gf/wife etc is surely a huge bonus.
I just think with our poor crowds folk coming on here saying what season ticket holders should or shouldn't get is a bit ridiculous.
As I've said above, if they got two each you'd still have probably 6,000 tickets to cater for the few hundred walk up fans we get.
I just think with our poor crowds folk coming on here saying what season ticket holders should or shouldn't get is a bit ridiculous.
As I've said above, if they got two each you'd still have probably 6,000 tickets to cater for the few hundred walk up fans we get.
Appreciate your argument. Just saying there are plenty of Hi bees who can only attend now and then due to health/money/travel etc. I'm sure there are plenty who would love to be an st and attend every game. Just think the St holders should'nt be so self entitled that's all bud.
I agree the st's are the lifeblood and should be looked after first.
:flag:
blackpoolhibs
23-04-2016, 10:15 AM
In your words your talking
How you can come up with such rubbish and say a season ticket holder who has renewed for next season still not knowing what league we are in doesn't get a reward for paying his £360 up front and is not deserving of another ticket is a joke.
Where are all these loyal fans with 20 -50 points every other week? Yet you think they are more deserving?
Glad you are not on the marketing committee....
Theres a reason folk with more loyalty points will get first dibs on any tickets that come up for sale. Is it now the case that those with fewer loyalty points are now not worthy of any tickets because those further up the scale want more for their loyalty?
mcfly
23-04-2016, 10:42 AM
Theres a reason folk with more loyalty points will get first dibs on any tickets that come up for sale. Is it now the case that those with fewer loyalty points are now not worthy of any tickets because those further up the scale want more for their loyalty?
So where does it end??
Those with 1 point who have gone to 1 game are on the database and deserve a ticket?
you can moan all you want but as I've said before where are those fans on a regular week to week basis?? Why should they be rewarded with a guaranteed ticket?
It's been done in the past and season tickets who have renewed will get 2.
that's what will happen
blackpoolhibs
23-04-2016, 11:04 AM
So where does it end??
Those with 1 point who have gone to 1 game are on the database and deserve a ticket?
you can moan all you want but as I've said before where are those fans on a regular week to week basis?? Why should they be rewarded with a guaranteed ticket?
It's been done in the past and season tickets who have renewed will get 2.
that's what will happen
:faf: Where am i moaning, i'm sorted ya dafty. Either you have a loyalty system or you dont, and if you do you cant suddenly say half way through it you are giving some of them more than they need to the detriment of others in that system.
Those who have been to one game will have more than one point, but maybe just maybe some of those who if you had your way, might not have been to ANY games.
I thought those who want this system implemented were fed up with day trippers, but the very system the club set out with the help of the fans is now not needed because those same people want it changed as we've reached a final.
As i said you couldnt make this sheite up. :faf:
It appears there is different levels of loyalty now, and the top lot want more than those further down the4 scale. :rolleyes:
surreyhibbie
23-04-2016, 11:10 AM
Two tickets for those on 100 loyalty points and two for those who subscribe to Hibs TV.
That's me sorted Then! :greengrin
Seriously, I doubt i will get four for me and the family, but will be in Edinburgh just in case there is a wee parade on Sunday.
Will have to watch the game in the Hibs club. If they letmein this time (that's another story...)
:flag:
mcfly
23-04-2016, 11:11 AM
:faf: Where am i moaning, i'm sorted ya dafty. Either you have a loyalty system or you dont, and if you do you cant suddenly say half way through it you are giving some of them more than they need to the detriment of others in that system.
Those who have been to one game will have more than one point, but maybe just maybe some of those who if you had your way, might not have been to ANY games.
I thought those who want this system implemented were fed up with day trippers, but the very system the club set out with the help of the fans is now not needed because those same people want it changed as we've reached a final.
As i said you couldnt make this sheite up. :faf:
It appears there is different levels of loyalty now, and the top lot want more than those further down the4 scale. :rolleyes:
Whatever pal.
Think what you like, insult who you like but you're wrong.
Whatever pal.
Think what you like, insult who you like but you're wrong.
He's not wrong. He makes some brilliant points. Could have been put without the harsher words though.
blackpoolhibs
23-04-2016, 11:13 AM
Whatever pal.
Think what you like, insult who you like but you're wrong.
Well if i'm talking sheite as you said, you can be a dafty. Pick holes in what i have said and you wont get insulted, just a discussion.:rolleyes:
GreenLake
23-04-2016, 11:20 AM
They are giving out one ticket to the most loyal fans at Ibrox and two if they have well scraped knuckles.
mcfly
23-04-2016, 11:22 AM
I'm a dafty that pays £360 and am only getting 1 ticket for the cup final but someone who went once 2 years ago and is on the database is getting the same 1 ticket as me.
Great idea mate - very fair
hibs should and will use the fact that season ticket holders are the lifeblood - they pay the money up front and deserve to take a pal if they so wish.
I'm a dafty that pays £360 and am only getting 1 ticket for the cup final but someone who went once 2 years ago and is on the database is getting the same 1 ticket as me.
Great idea mate - very fair
hibs should and will use the fact that season ticket holders are the lifeblood - they pay the money up front and deserve to take a pal if they so wish.
You're not a dafty, I'm sure blackpoolhibs said it in the heat of argument.
The st also pays for you to have a reserved seat at all of the home games not for reserving you more than one extra tick in case of reaching a final?
blackpoolhibs
23-04-2016, 11:25 AM
I'm a dafty that pays £360 and am only getting 1 ticket for the cup final but someone who went once 2 years ago and is on the database is getting the same 1 ticket as me.
Great idea mate - very fair
hibs should and will use the fact that season ticket holders are the lifeblood - they pay the money up front and deserve to take a pal if they so wish.
So you are getting first dibs and what you deserve but now want more, yip i hear you loud and clear.
People are saying a ST holder should only get 1 ticket because if they get 2 they will give it to a mate etc but if they renew their ST, they can get another ticket...erm is this no just the same as giving season ticket holders 2 tickets to start with, then sell the rest on a general sale.
LancashireHibby
23-04-2016, 05:55 PM
I'm a dafty that pays £360 and am only getting 1 ticket for the cup final but someone who went once 2 years ago and is on the database is getting the same 1 ticket as me.
Great idea mate - very fair
hibs should and will use the fact that season ticket holders are the lifeblood - they pay the money up front and deserve to take a pal if they so wish.
You're only going to use one ticket yourself so why should you get any more? And if sales are as poor as somebody who has attended one game two years ago manages to get a ticket then quite frankly it's worthless arguing about it.
IberianHibernian
23-04-2016, 08:18 PM
Main arguments for giving ST renewers chance to buy 2 tickets are possibly : 1. To boost ST slaes for next season especially as many fans are understandably reluctant to renew or buy new ST without knowing which division we`ll be in . 2. Simplify sale of cup final tickets at a time when we`ll also be selling playoff tickets . 1 is financial and 2 administrative mainly . A fair compromise would be to only offer 2nd ticket to fans who buy adult ST for next season . Haven`t checked ST prices but know that rightly club offers reasonably priced STs to kids and students but should reasonable price also include access to second cup final ticket which might prevent long term fan with no ST from going to final ?
DH1875
23-04-2016, 08:19 PM
People are saying a ST holder should only get 1 ticket because if they get 2 they will give it to a mate etc but if they renew their ST, they can get another ticket...erm is this no just the same as giving season ticket holders 2 tickets to start with, then sell the rest on a general sale.
Don't think it's the same argument at all and don't think others are even trying to suggest it is :confused:
LancashireHibby
23-04-2016, 08:36 PM
Entitlements are all based around each individual account, so therefore one ticket per account. Simple as that. No reason why anyone should be able to jump the queue just because their mate has renewed their season ticket.
marinello59
23-04-2016, 08:41 PM
Entitlements are all based around each individual account, so therefore one ticket per account. Simple as that. No reason why anyone should be able to jump the queue just because their mate has renewed their season ticket.
It's been 2 for those who renew at the last two Scottish Cup finals. If it resulted in increased ST sales then that will happen this time as well no matter what we all think.
Scouse Hibee
23-04-2016, 08:54 PM
Entitlements are all based around each individual account, so therefore one ticket per account. Simple as that. No reason why anyone should be able to jump the queue just because their mate has renewed their season ticket.
You coukd also say folk shouldn't be able to jump the queue just because they can afford hospitality then?
hibee-boys
23-04-2016, 09:11 PM
Anybody any idea when we might hear about how we will be distributing tickets? Fair enough its 4 weeks away but if the club follow some of the daft suggestions on here they'll be about 10 waves of tickets so should probably have started selling the tickets for the final before we even qualified for it! 19 pages long.....really? It's quite simple - first wave - 1 per season ticket, 2 if renewed 2nd - Based on loyalty points 3rd - General sale.
IberianHibernian
23-04-2016, 09:15 PM
You coukd also say folk shouldn't be able to jump the queue just because they can afford hospitality then?Yes especially as it`s announced before ticket prices have been announced . All understandable and other clubs would do the same but that doesn`t make it right .
James.
23-04-2016, 09:47 PM
Dunno if this has been mentioned but I got my Hearts cup final tickets on general sale. Can't see there being as big a clamour - if you're on the database you'll get a ticket :aok:
IberianHibernian
23-04-2016, 09:59 PM
Dunno if this has been mentioned but I got my Hearts cup final tickets on general sale. Can't see there being as big a clamour - if you're on the database you'll get a ticket :aok:I think you`re right . Maybe not where you want to sit ( but sponsors etc get best seats anyway ) and not with all your pals but Rangers means it`s not family friendly ( or anything friendly ) , cup finals are no novelty ( thank you Pat Fenlon etc ) and playoff situation will also take attention . Lets hope we sell all our tickets and regular and non ST long - term supporters are there .
Don't think it's the same argument at all and don't think others are even trying to suggest it is :confused:
I never said anyone was suggesting it, my point was what was the difference to giving 2 tickets to season ticket holders or giving them 1 and then another one if they renew, still gives them 2 tickets.
What about people who do renew but can't commit to it till after the season ends, not everyone has a spare £380 right now, some people wait till after the summer holidays.
ben johnson
23-04-2016, 10:44 PM
If I am to receive 2 after renewing them my extra ticket will be going to a life long supporter who can't afford a season but has put in the miles following Hibs over the years. It seems to be assumed that the extra tickets will be taken by complete strangers who don't deserve a ticket. I just hope all Hibs fans who really deserve to go to the Final get there and we can all be as one on the day and help the team bring it back home to Leith. (C) Mr N Barclay. Hope to hear that song more and more leading up to the Final.
pacorosssco
23-04-2016, 10:51 PM
I'm a dafty that pays £360 and am only getting 1 ticket for the cup final but someone who went once 2 years ago and is on the database is getting the same 1 ticket as me.
Great idea mate - very fair
hibs should and will use the fact that season ticket holders are the lifeblood - they pay the money up front and deserve to take a pal if they so wish.
I Salute your support and financial commitment but i disagree seasons get 2. While this most likely will see spares passed good irregular lapsed supporters there will be tickets given day trippers. Give seasons first and with chance to buy for friends if on database and then next those with most points. Those whove gone more than few games will all be seen alright with maybe few left general sale
CapitalGreen
23-04-2016, 11:24 PM
I Salute your support and financial commitment but i disagree seasons get 2. While this most likely will see spares passed good irregular lapsed supporters there will be tickets given day trippers. Give seasons first and with chance to buy for friends if on database and then next those with most points. Those whove gone more than few games will all be seen alright with maybe few left general sale
What's the difference between an irregular lapsed supporter and a day tripper? Neither go to watch Hibs regularly and both want tickets when we get to finals.
The Green Goblin
23-04-2016, 11:33 PM
I think they should give everyone who was born on a Wednesday 23 tickets each.
ben johnson
23-04-2016, 11:36 PM
What's the difference between an irregular lapsed supporter and a day tripper? Neither go to watch Hibs regularly and both want tickets when we get to finals.
That's a very good point. I can only speak for myself on this matter and I have been asked to supply a ticket for a friend of a friend who fancies a day out. I have told them they are at the end of the queue. I'm sure the bulk of the season ticket holders will do the right thing and ensure it goes to a worthy Hibbie.
SteveHFC
23-04-2016, 11:55 PM
I think they should give everyone who was born on a Wednesday 23 tickets each.
Those born on Tuesday like myself should get 30 each.
Nakedmanoncrack
24-04-2016, 12:57 AM
That's a very good point. I can only speak for myself on this matter and I have been asked to supply a ticket for a friend of a friend who fancies a day out. I have told them they are at the end of the queue. I'm sure the bulk of the season ticket holders will do the right thing and ensure it goes to a worthy Hibbie.
I'm sure that they won't get the chance because the club will do the right thing for those who support it - rather than place it in your hands to play god and decide which of your friends gets a ticket!
I remember the Celtic final, even after it sold out there was 100's spares floating around. No need to panic.
Libby Hibby
24-04-2016, 05:20 AM
I remember the Celtic final, even after it sold out there was 100's spares floating around. No need to panic.
Correct, the only ones that are really panicking are the ones that -
*can't afford hospitality,
*don't have an ST for this season,
*don't have an ST for next season,
*do not have a half season ticket for this season,
*do not have enough points because they don't buy enough single games,
*do not walk up enough
but are hoping that the club create a situation that suits them.
What would really Pi55 me off would be 1 ticket for all of the above and if there is a general sale, it's more than 1 or worse still a free for all.
I want the best chance to sit beside my m8s and family hence why I would like 2 per ST, regardless if you've renewed, then above say 20 points next, then a general sale.
ben johnson
24-04-2016, 07:00 AM
I'm sure that they won't get the chance because the club will do the right thing for those who support it - rather than place it in your hands to play god and decide which of your friends gets a ticket!
Play god !!! Lighten up , put some clothes on and put the pipe away.
Entitlements are all based around each individual account, so therefore one ticket per account. Simple as that. No reason why anyone should be able to jump the queue just because their mate has renewed their season ticket.
I am not sure on going yet bud but if not my ref is yours. I have around 150 points.
Got pre planned trip that weekend that I am trying to resolve.
Someone said we have around 20,000 on the database, if this is the case could a generic e mail not be sent out to all asking if they are wanting a ticket for the final, it would be a simple reply stating yes or no.
pacorosssco
24-04-2016, 07:14 AM
What's the difference between an irregular lapsed supporter and a day tripper? Neither go to watch Hibs regularly and both want tickets when we get to finals.
Diff for me. Day tripper never been hibs game or less than 5. A person who is given a ticket who supports another team.
Lapsed irregular supported have seen commitment to club over sustained period of time. Example i know someone season ticket holder many years but not niw he goes 8-10 games a season.
green&left
24-04-2016, 07:42 AM
We managed 8000 fans on Wednesday against der hun and 651 fans at Morton yesterday and we're worrying about how we're going to split 22k tickets. Couldnt make it up.
Current season tickets will get 1. Those who have renewed or bought a new ST for next season will get one. If everyone takes their full quota that will still leave 9000 tickets left. (8000 this season plus say 5000 sold for next season at an estimate).
Panick merchants...
Libby Hibby
24-04-2016, 07:45 AM
We managed 8000 fans on Wednesday against der hun and 651 fans at Morton yesterday and we're worrying about how we're going to split 22k tickets. Couldnt make it up.
Current season tickets will get 1. Those who have renewed or bought a new ST for next season will get one. If everyone takes their full quota that will still leave 9000 tickets left. (8000 this season plus say 5000 sold for next season at an estimate).
Panick merchants...
So the 13k that's left in you hypothetical situation, how are they sold? 1 per person?
green&left
24-04-2016, 07:51 AM
So the 13k that's left in you hypothetical situation, how are they sold? 1 per person?
No bothered TBH mate. I'll be tucked up in bed with my 2 tickets stashed by my bed :D
Rightly or wrongly based on loyalty points I'd imagine until general sale. Think that's how the St Johnstone semi final worked.
Libby Hibby
24-04-2016, 07:57 AM
No bothered TBH mate. I'll be tucked up in bed with my 2 tickets stashed by my bed :D
Rightly or wrongly based on loyalty points I'd imagine until general sale. Think that's how the St Johnstone semi final worked.
See it bothers me a bit that the people that are in the early phases may only get 1 ticket and when it goes to a general sale, anybody could get as many as they want.
I think it restricts the people that physically support the club to sitting in an area perhaps with strangers albeit Hibby stranger's whilst those who don't qualify for the early phases can get as many as they wish and sit with whoever they wish.
If it's 1 per person at the start, this needs to be consistent throughout.
If it's 2 per person at the start, then this also needs to be consistent.
SeanWilson
24-04-2016, 08:03 AM
Why the endless debate on this? If our allocation is 22k, anyone who 'deserves' a ticket will get one, the 'scramble' will be for the folk who for whatever reason aren't in a position to take up one of the loyalty options (points/ST). Dont think anyone who's not a regular can grumble at the eventual lottery once the regulars have taken their share.
HibbyAl
24-04-2016, 08:32 AM
I never said anyone was suggesting it, my point was what was the difference to giving 2 tickets to season ticket holders or giving them 1 and then another one if they renew, still gives them 2 tickets.
What about people who do renew but can't commit to it till after the season ends, not everyone has a spare £380 right now, some people wait till after the summer holidays.
The difference is not every ST holder will renew. A lot have been saying they are undecided about renewing or are waiting to see which league we are in. Offering a 2nd ticket to only people who renew might push some of them to renewing which will bring in more money to the club.
That's why it was done like this previously and why I think they'll do it like this again.
blackpoolhibs
24-04-2016, 10:33 AM
It's been 2 for those who renew at the last two Scottish Cup finals. If it resulted in increased ST sales then that will happen this time as well no matter what we all think.
Ah but we did not have the all singing all dancing loyalty scheme then. :wink:
flash
24-04-2016, 10:37 AM
The price of Cup success.
mcfly
24-04-2016, 10:46 AM
The difference is not every ST holder will renew. A lot have been saying they are undecided about renewing or are waiting to see which league we are in. Offering a 2nd ticket to only people who renew might push some of them to renewing which will bring in more money to the club.
That's why it was done like this previously and why I think they'll do it like this again.
Agree 100% - these are the loyal fans who deserve the opportunity to buy a 2nd ticket.
Fed up hearing about occasional walk ups on the database with next to no points saying they deserve a ticket.
I'll say it again Where were they v Rangers/Morton/Falkirk midweek games
Certainly no at Easter road
blackpoolhibs
24-04-2016, 10:48 AM
Agree 100% - these are the loyal fans who deserve the opportunity to buy a 2nd ticket.
Fed up hearing about occasional walk ups on the database with next to no points saying they deserve a ticket.
I'll say it again Where were they v Rangers/Morton/Falkirk midweek games
Certainly no at Easter road
Were the people you want to give the 2nd ticket to at the Ranger/Morton or Falkirk midweek games?
mcfly
24-04-2016, 11:02 AM
Were the people you want to give the 2nd ticket to at the Ranger/Morton or Falkirk midweek games?
Who I give my 2nd ticket to is none of your business but as you think I shouldn't get one as my season ticket is just the same as an occasional walk up the situation won't arise
Who I give my 2nd ticket to is none of your business but as you think I shouldn't get one as my season ticket is just the same as an occasional walk up the situation won't arise
It is if you give it to someone who never goes to any games.
Pretty Boy
24-04-2016, 11:15 AM
Thank **** Hibs will announce this in the next few days.
It means everyone can move on from arguing and moaning about what might happen to arguing and moaning about what is happening.
Keith_M
24-04-2016, 11:16 AM
I think I should get 5 tickets because I was at the 1985 League Cup Final.
I'll then give two of them to relatives who only ever turn up at Cup Finals and sell the other two on the internet, probably to Rangers Fans, but as long as I make some money out of it, I'm not bothered.
It's my right and if I don't get what I want, it means the Club doesn't appreciate me, so I'll have a girly tantrum outside the West Stand and vow to never go back!!!!
16439
Agree 100% - these are the loyal fans who deserve the opportunity to buy a 2nd ticket.
Fed up hearing about occasional walk ups on the database with next to no points saying they deserve a ticket.
I'll say it again Where were they v Rangers/Morton/Falkirk midweek games
Certainly no at Easter road
I'm not a ST holder but was at the game on wednesday, both cup games against Hearts, St Johnstone semi at PBS, cup final and around another 5 home games, are you allowing me a chance of a ticket. I know I'll not be 1st in line when the tickets 1st go on sale and I'll have to wait till the 2nd phase but it means I'll be on the bus with my mates but sitting at another part of the stadium during the game.
hibs0666
24-04-2016, 11:23 AM
After digesting all the arguments and counter points made in the thread, I have concluded that season ticket holders should have a week to buy as many as they want, with a free for all starting thereafter.
Green Fish
24-04-2016, 11:35 AM
It will be similar to, if not the same as 2012 and 2013.
Those of us who go to ER regularly will be rewarded and quite right too. Most of those who have lapsed in recent years will still have the contacts to get a ticket.
A sevco fan said to me today that we should only be allocated the 13k that we took to the SF
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Hermit Crab
24-04-2016, 11:52 AM
Season ticket holder this season and next season plus 500+ points first dibs. (4 tickets) :greengrin
Season ticket holder this season plus 500+ points next wave. ( 2 tickets)
Season ticket holder this season plus 350+ points next wave (2 tickets)
Season ticket holder this season plus 250+ points next wave (2 tickets)
90 points+ next wave (1 ticket)
1 point+ next wave (1 ticket)
General sale, if any left (1 per punter but name must be on database to prevent huns getting hands on them)
The above system is just as crazy as some suggestions on here.
Giro Playboy
24-04-2016, 12:06 PM
I'm pretty confident that everyone who wants a ticket will get one. There won't be nearly as many daytrippers and families going due to the nature of the opposition. 20'000 should take care of the Hibs fans who are prepared to go to a game against Rangers in Glasgow even if it is a cup final
DH1875
24-04-2016, 12:17 PM
I remember the Celtic final, even after it sold out there was 100's spares floating around. No need to panic.
What Celtic final?
DC_Hibs
24-04-2016, 12:24 PM
I'll be furious with Hibs if it's not 2 for each renewed season ticket holder.
We've filled a bus, half of whom are daytrippers and got 3 mates from Frankfurt to book flights having promised them tickets.
These cup finals are nothing but a pain in the erse.
Hermit Crab
24-04-2016, 12:27 PM
I'll be furious with Hibs if it's not 2 for each renewed season ticket holder.
We've filled a bus, half of whom are daytrippers and got 3 mates from Frankfurt to book flights having promised them tickets.
These cup finals are nothing but a pain in the erse.
:tee hee: :tee hee: :tee hee: :tee hee:
Nice Try
:fishin: :fishin: :fishin: :fishin:
BH Hibs
24-04-2016, 12:28 PM
The difference is not every ST holder will renew. A lot have been saying they are undecided about renewing or are waiting to see which league we are in. Offering a 2nd ticket to only people who renew might push some of them to renewing which will bring in more money to the club.
That's why it was done like this previously and why I think they'll do it like this again.
Agree with this. If by offering a ticket for the final brings in another 380 quid pp the club has to do this. Then you get to the point that if they are giving a ticket to new season ticket holders then they have to be fair and give the same to existing ST holders who renew.
DH1875
24-04-2016, 12:29 PM
2013.
No one really gave us a hope in hell for that game. This is a very winnable game and a great chance to finally win it. It'll sell out, people would be daft to miss it.
Baldy Foghorn
24-04-2016, 01:11 PM
8,000 at ER regularly. 700 yesterday at Morton....
Yet some are moaning about how we allocate 21,000 tickets. Sickening really:rolleyes:
Billy Whizz
24-04-2016, 01:19 PM
Thank **** Hibs will announce this in the next few days.
It means everyone can move on from arguing and moaning about what might happen to arguing and moaning about what is happening.
Hopefully tomorrow, and Hibs would be crazy not too incentivise fans to come along to Tuesday's and Next Sunday's game though
Folk who moan will always moan regardless of how things are done. They will never ever be happy.
Those who have a ST will rightly so get a ticket and first dibs on tickets.
Then if it's loyalty points those with the most will get them.
Whatever's left at the end of that is a ballot for the rest on a first come first served.
No one should have any complaints but will.
Billy Whizz
24-04-2016, 01:20 PM
8,000 at ER regularly. 700 yesterday at Morton....
Yet some are moaning about how we allocate 21,000 tickets. Sickening really:rolleyes:
It's dead easy, season ticket holders 1st, and then done on a loyalty point basis
blackpoolhibs
24-04-2016, 01:21 PM
8,000 at ER regularly. 700 yesterday at Morton....
Yet some are moaning about how we allocate 21,000 tickets. Sickening really:rolleyes:
I'm not moaning, i'm already sorted. Surely its all about the loyalty scheme for you, you cant want another system brought in that would scupper folk on the loyalty scheme missing out?
Hermit Crab
24-04-2016, 01:21 PM
8,000 at ER regularly. 700 yesterday at Morton....
Yet some are moaning about how we allocate 21,000 tickets. Sickening really:rolleyes:
I know mate, the ones who shout the loudest about lack of tickets are the ones who are too busy posting on here at 3pm on a Saturday instead of going to the games.
Baldy Foghorn
24-04-2016, 01:27 PM
I'm not moaning, i'm already sorted. Surely its all about the loyalty scheme for you, you cant want another system brought in that would scupper folk on the loyalty scheme missing out?
Sorted.... You and a bunch of guys who never attend, getting debentures. Bravo.....
Baldy Foghorn
24-04-2016, 01:27 PM
I know mate, the ones who shout the loudest about lack of tickets are the ones who are too busy posting on here at 3pm on a Saturday instead of going to the games.
Yip, nowhere to be seen on a Matchday.......
blackpoolhibs
24-04-2016, 01:30 PM
Sorted.... You and a bunch of guys who never attend, getting debentures. Bravo.....
I know, its great. Perhaps they should be given to folk who already have a ticket, or we should only take 8k and give the rest to sevco?
Hermit Crab
24-04-2016, 01:30 PM
Yip, nowhere to be seen on a Matchday.......
Yet they deserve x amount of tickets and moan when season ticket holders get rewarded for for their continued support.
Baldy Foghorn
24-04-2016, 01:30 PM
I know, its great. Perhaps they should be given to folk who already have a ticket, or we should only take 8k and give the rest to sevco?
Whatever
blackpoolhibs
24-04-2016, 01:31 PM
Whatever
Quality answer. :top marks
Baldy Foghorn
24-04-2016, 01:32 PM
Yet they deserve x amount of tickets and moan when season ticket holders get rewarded for for their continued support.
Careful G, someone will be along to label us uberfans in a minute:rolleyes:
Billy Whizz
24-04-2016, 01:32 PM
I know, its great. Perhaps they should be given to folk who already have a ticket, or we should only take 8k and give the rest to sevco?
Buy a season ticket, the money goes all to Hibs, and then you'll get a final ticket
Hermit Crab
24-04-2016, 01:32 PM
Careful G, someone will be along to label us uberfans in a minute:rolleyes:
I'm a yam remember...... :rolleyes:
Baldy Foghorn
24-04-2016, 01:32 PM
Quality answer. :top marks
Boring even reading your trolling attempts. Contempt aplenty.........
blackpoolhibs
24-04-2016, 01:37 PM
Yet they deserve x amount of tickets and moan when season ticket holders get rewarded for for their continued support.
Careful now, when you say rewarded do you mean by getting an extra ticket? When i was a season ticket holder, i was over the moon to be in the hat for tickets for tynie or guaranteed a ticket should we reach a final.
It now appears this is not enough for season ticket holders, 2 tickets is now the reward they want.
You couldnt make this up, and its some of the same folk who have been banging on about the loyalty svheme and how this was the way to reward loyalty? :faf:
Baldy Foghorn
24-04-2016, 01:39 PM
Careful now, when you say rewarded do you mean by getting an extra ticket? When i was a season ticket holder, i was over the moon to be in the hat for tickets for tynie or guaranteed a ticket should we reach a final.
It now appears this is not enough for season ticket holders, 2 tickets is now the reward they want.
You couldnt make this up, and its some of the same folk who have been banging on about the loyalty svheme and how this was the way to reward loyalty? :faf:
You don't like the loyalty scheme, but never attend, now that is irony.......
Hermit Crab
24-04-2016, 01:43 PM
Careful now, when you say rewarded do you mean by getting an extra ticket? When i was a season ticket holder, i was over the moon to be in the hat for tickets for tynie or guaranteed a ticket should we reach a final.
It now appears this is not enough for season ticket holders, 2 tickets is now the reward they want.
You couldnt make this up, and its some of the same folk who have been banging on about the loyalty svheme and how this was the way to reward loyalty? :faf:
It was the case in 2012 and 2013 where if you already had a season ticket and and renewed then you got one for a current season and one for renewing meaning you got two tickets in total. Seems fair enough to me. The could do the same but add in a points requirement to qualify for both briefs though.
blackpoolhibs
24-04-2016, 01:47 PM
You don't like the loyalty scheme, but never attend, now that is irony.......
5 games this season, granted more than even i thought i'd go to but none the less it will be hopefully be lucky 13 by the time the season ends.
And yes i don't agree with the loyalty scheme, one you obviously do. Well you do up to a certain point, in fact theres a cut off point for loyalty it appears, was that in the script at the beginning?
The two tiered loyalty scheme that Andy74 was alluding to earlier in the season, has really took off now, where people who have loyalty points are deemed not good enough now to get tickets for the final before those who are season ticket holders get two.
Loyalty scheme but the diet kind.
blackpoolhibs
24-04-2016, 01:49 PM
It was the case in 2012 and 2013 where if you already had a season ticket and and renewed then you got one for a current season and one for renewing meaning you got two tickets in total. Seems fair enough to me. The could do the same but add in a points requirement to qualify for both briefs though.
I know what it was HC for previous finals, but this was well before this infamous loyalty scheme, or as its now know the diet loyalty scheme.
Baldy Foghorn
24-04-2016, 01:50 PM
5 games this season, granted more than even i thought i'd go to but none the less it will be hopefully be lucky 13 by the time the season ends.
And yes i don't agree with the loyalty scheme, one you obviously do. Well you do up to a certain point, in fact theres a cut off point for loyalty it appears, was that in the script at the beginning?
The two tiered loyalty scheme that Andy74 was alluding to earlier in the season, has really took off now, where people who have loyalty points are deemed not good enough now to get tickets for the final before those who are season ticket holders get two.
Loyalty scheme but the diet kind.
I have never advocated the loyalty point scheme being changed for Cup Final....And have no influence on what Hibs decide to do re allocating tickets
I know what it was HC for previous finals, but this was well before this infamous loyalty scheme, or as its now know the diet loyalty scheme.
Anyone who can attend 5 games from Blackpool location is a loyal supporter that's for sure.
:top marks
Hermit Crab
24-04-2016, 01:54 PM
I know what it was HC for previous finals, but this was well before this infamous loyalty scheme, or as its now know the diet loyalty scheme.
Season ticket holder this season and next season plus 500+ points first dibs. (2 tickets)
Season ticket holder this season plus 500+ points next wave. ( 2 tickets)
Season ticket holder this season plus 360+ points next wave (2 tickets)
Season ticket holder this season plus 250+ points next wave (1 ticket)
90 points+ next wave (1 ticket)
1 point+ next wave (1 ticket)
General sale, if any left (1 per punter but name must be on database to prevent huns getting hands on them) All subject to availability of course.
The above system is just as crazy as some suggestions on here.
Rewarding fans for having season tickets and the points.
Would this system work BH? :dunno:
blackpoolhibs
24-04-2016, 01:55 PM
I have never advocated the loyalty point scheme being changed for Cup Final....And have no influence on what Hibs decide to do re allocating tickets
I never said you did, but if season ticket holders are given two, some loyalty points holders who want to attend may miss out.
Was the loyalty system not brought in for this exact situation?
I have 105 points, and would probably be guaranteed a ticket in any case, but i wont be taking it up so someone else in the points system will get it, thats the fair way.
Season ticket holder this season and next season plus 500+ points first dibs. (2 tickets)
Season ticket holder this season plus 500+ points next wave. ( 2 tickets)
Season ticket holder this season plus 360+ points next wave (2 tickets)
Season ticket holder this season plus 250+ points next wave (1 ticket)
90 points+ next wave (1 ticket)
1 point+ next wave (1 ticket)
General sale, if any left (1 per punter but name must be on database to prevent huns getting hands on them) All subject to availability of course.
The above system is just as crazy as some suggestions on here.
Would this system work BH? :dunno:
Hope to goodness not one ticket falls into a rangers fans hands, not one!
BANNED for LIFE if anyone gives theirs to one.
blackpoolhibs
24-04-2016, 01:58 PM
Season ticket holder this season and next season plus 500+ points first dibs. (2 tickets)
Season ticket holder this season plus 500+ points next wave. ( 2 tickets)
Season ticket holder this season plus 360+ points next wave (2 tickets)
Season ticket holder this season plus 250+ points next wave (1 ticket)
90 points+ next wave (1 ticket)
1 point+ next wave (1 ticket)
General sale, if any left (1 per punter but name must be on database to prevent huns getting hands on them) All subject to availability of course.
The above system is just as crazy as some suggestions on here.
Would this system work BH? :dunno:
Not for me HC, the loyalty system was brought in for this exact situation. I dont agree with it, but you cant keep making the rules up as you go along when there is a system in place for this scenario.
Hermit Crab
24-04-2016, 02:00 PM
Hope to goodness not one ticket falls into a rangers fans hands, not one!
BANNED for LIFE if anyone gives theirs to one.
Thats why you must be on the database to purchase tickets, any huns would be easily smoked out in the wrong end, it happened in the 2013 final vs Celtic. There were a few that had managed to secure tickets in the south upper and one ended up with a sore face and him and his buddies got ejected.
Hermit Crab
24-04-2016, 02:01 PM
Not for me HC, the loyalty system was brought in for this exact situation. I dont agree with it, but you cant keep making the rules up as you go along when there is a system in place for this scenario.
I'm not trying to make up or change rules, it was merely a suggestion to please everybody. Hibs should base sales purely on points as that is what the points system was brought in for but we have no control over what or how they do it.
Thats why you must be on the database to purchase tickets, any huns would be easily smoked out in the wrong end, it happened in the 2013 final vs Celtic. There were a few that had managed to secure tickets in the south upper and one ended up with a sore face and him and his buddies got ejected.
I'm very glad there is added security of the database which I'm on obviously as a game of this stature could easily kick off if they're seated next to any of us.
:flag:
Billy Whizz
24-04-2016, 02:07 PM
Not for me HC, the loyalty system was brought in for this exact situation. I dont agree with it, but you cant keep making the rules up as you go along when there is a system in place for this scenario.
The only part of the loyalty scheme that needs reviewed in my opinion, is not giving points for away matches where only a small number of tickets are available. Rangers and Hearts away this season as an example. The rich get richer. The rest of the scheme works well in my opinion
blackpoolhibs
24-04-2016, 02:08 PM
I'm not trying to make up or change rules, it was merely a suggestion to please everybody. Hibs should base sales purely on points as that is what the points system was brought in for but we have no control over what or how they do it.
Sorry i was not saying you were making the rules up as you went along, my gripe is the system was brought in for this kind of situation. The most loyal got first pick and a guaranteed ticket, and those with less points took their place in the chain.
This is why the system is useless in my opinion, some of those in the highest bracket appear to want more than their own ticket for all manor of reasons, and sod those who were less loyal than them.
Sorry i was not saying you were making the rules up as you went along, my gripe is the system was brought in for this kind of situation. The most loyal got first pick and a guaranteed ticket, and those with less points took their place in the chain.
This is why the system is useless in my opinion, some of those in the highest bracket appear to want more than their own ticket for all manor of reasons, and sod those who were less loyal than them.
It is a complex situation with a supply and demand issue. I hope the club get's it about as fair as can be. Fingers crossed virtually all of us get one. St holders and everybody on the database who wants one.
CapitalGreen
24-04-2016, 02:21 PM
There is more tickets available than fans on the database and you have to be on the database to purchase a ticket.
How do people propose the excess tickets are distributed?
CapitalGreen
24-04-2016, 02:23 PM
It is a complex situation with a supply and demand issue. I hope the club get's it about as fair as can be. Fingers crossed virtually all of us get one. St holders and everybody on the database who wants one.
If only selling to those on the database - supply exceeds demand. How do you propose the excess is distributed?
SON OF PADDY
24-04-2016, 02:32 PM
Agree 100% - these are the loyal fans who deserve the opportunity to buy a 2nd ticket.
Fed up hearing about occasional walk ups on the database with next to no points saying they deserve a ticket.
I'll say it again Where were they v Rangers/Morton/Falkirk midweek games
Certainly no at Easter road
100% mate " Want a ticket " put your cash into the club.
If only selling to those on the database - supply exceeds demand. How do you propose the excess is distributed?
A second wave for those on the database?
I'm just hoping the club is fair and everyone who wants one gets one.
:aok:
blackpoolhibs
24-04-2016, 02:35 PM
100% mate " Want a ticket " put your cash into the club.
They are guaranteed a ticket if they are a season ticket holder? :confused: Maybe you should have said, if you want two tickets put your cash into the club?
SON OF PADDY
24-04-2016, 03:02 PM
They are guaranteed a ticket if they are a season ticket holder? :confused: Maybe you should have said, if you want two tickets put your cash into the club?
I know that they are guaranteed a ticket !
and having once again already renewed, I fully expect two tickets for the final.
To give to whoever I decided deserves it.
I know that they are guaranteed a ticket !
and having once again already renewed, I fully expect two tickets for the final.
To give to whoever I decided deserves it.
Rubbish attitude, mate. I've renewed as well but I will be happy enough if Hibs only give me one ticket for the final, and the rest are distributed through the database.
Rubbish attitude, mate. I've renewed as well but I will be happy enough if Hibs only give me one ticket for the final, and the rest are distributed through the database.
Top marks for selflessness. That's how it used to be in the good old days albeit there was no database, the st holders guarenteed one ticket, the rest went on general sale with the queue snaking away round Albion Road.
SON OF PADDY
24-04-2016, 03:31 PM
Rubbish attitude, mate. I've renewed as well but I will be happy enough if Hibs only give me one ticket for the final, and the rest are distributed through the database.
Get you !!
I'll have your extra ticket if you don't want it ?
hibs0666
24-04-2016, 03:32 PM
There is more tickets available than fans on the database and you have to be on the database to purchase a ticket.
How do people propose the excess tickets are distributed?
Let the supporters sort out excess distribution by letting season ticket holders buy as many as they want.
Scouse Hibee
24-04-2016, 03:38 PM
Thats why you must be on the database to purchase tickets, any huns would be easily smoked out in the wrong end, it happened in the 2013 final vs Celtic. There were a few that had managed to secure tickets in the south upper and one ended up with a sore face and him and his buddies got ejected.
Do you have to be on the database to jump the queue and get one tbrough hospitality though?
Baldy Foghorn
24-04-2016, 03:45 PM
Do you have to be on the database to jump the queue and get one tbrough hospitality though?
Nope
green day
24-04-2016, 03:47 PM
Nope
That's my worry, county final and semi v Utd me and Dad were south lower, great atmosphere and good guys around us. Does that mean we might have hospitality huns above us at final??
Jesus........
Scouse Hibee
24-04-2016, 03:50 PM
Nope
So basically folk who don't attend yet are adamant about how tickets should be distributed are conveniently disregarding the fact that they are jumping the queue because they can afford hospitality.
Baldy Foghorn
24-04-2016, 03:53 PM
So basically folk who don't attend yet are adamant about how tickets should be distributed are conveniently disregarding the fact that they are jumping the queue because they can afford hospitality.
Indeed, great eh?:rolleyes:
blackpoolhibs
24-04-2016, 03:53 PM
Who are these people that want a ticket who dont attend and have posted on this thread?
Bishop Hibee
24-04-2016, 03:57 PM
I know that they are guaranteed a ticket !
and having once again already renewed, I fully expect two tickets for the final.
To give to whoever I decided deserves it.
I'm with you. ST holders will make sure they go to Hibees.
Andy74
24-04-2016, 04:01 PM
I'm with you. ST holders will make sure they go to Hibees.
Yep and even if they all got 2 each there are about 6,000 left. Plenty for everyone.
Billy Whizz
24-04-2016, 04:06 PM
Yep and even if they all got 2 each there are about 6,000 left. Plenty for everyone.
Lots more than that Andy. Think we have around 8,000 season ticket holders plus 5,000 or so have renewed. Might be around 8,000 or 9,000 available
DH1875
24-04-2016, 04:07 PM
Thats why you must be on the database to purchase tickets, any huns would be easily smoked out in the wrong end, it happened in the 2013 final vs Celtic. There were a few that had managed to secure tickets in the south upper and one ended up with a sore face and him and his buddies got ejected.
Was the trouble in the south stand that day not because the fans were actually Hibs fans but others thought they were celtic fans as they had west coast accents? Pretty sure it was only when one of the boys showed his Hibs tattoo that it got calmed down.
I'm with you. ST holders will make sure they go to Hibees.
Not always they dont.
Lancs Harp
24-04-2016, 04:10 PM
Well reading this thread it pretty clear that not everyone will be happy with the way tickets are distributed.
Good luck with that one Hibernian FC :greengrin
Baldy Foghorn
24-04-2016, 04:12 PM
Well reading this thread it pretty clear that not everyone will be happy with the way tickets are distributed.
Good luck with that one Hibernian FC :greengrin
Fans nowhere to be seen on matchday, moaning....Amazing...........
blackpoolhibs
24-04-2016, 04:21 PM
Hibs fans with points moaning about those with more points maybe taking their chance of going to the game by being greedy.
The new two tiered loyalty scheme only for those at the top end.
Baldy Foghorn
24-04-2016, 04:27 PM
Hibs fans with points moaning about those with more points maybe taking their chance of going to the game by being greedy.
The new two tiered loyalty scheme only for those at the top end.
If offered two I will be taking one......I go but wouldn't accept two. Two tiered loyalty scheme? Why not just button up ?
blackpoolhibs
24-04-2016, 04:37 PM
If offered two I will be taking one......I go but wouldn't accept two. Two tiered loyalty scheme? Why not just button up ?
Button up, why because i have an opinion that differs from you?
mcfly
24-04-2016, 04:40 PM
Blackpool hibs certainly likes an argument with as many people as he can...
Whoop di do he's attended a whole 5 games this year.
Tell me Blackpool hibs what's wrong with me taking my child to the game even if they have never been before??
They may see hibs win the cup decide they want to go with their dad on a sat - so why shoukdnt I be able to take them.?
Under your argument u think anyone with 1 point who's been to a game in the last 5 years they should get them first.
I'm so glad the marketing dept don't listen to you, or that I have to sit near you on a match day..
Mind you that wouldn't happen as you only go 5 times a year. Now that's real loyalty under your argument
If offered two I will be taking one......I go but wouldn't accept two. Two tiered loyalty scheme? Why not just button up ?
Why don't you just ignore him? He's clearly doing it just to annoy you.
Baldy Foghorn
24-04-2016, 04:43 PM
Button up, why because i have an opinion that differs from you?
No because you clearly don't like loyalty scheme, fine. You don't attend, fine. You are getting debenture for final, with others who don't attend, fine.
But give it a rest eh, you are continually trolling in here.......
mcfly
24-04-2016, 04:44 PM
No because you clearly don't like loyalty scheme, fine. You don't attend, fine. You are getting debenture for fine, with others who don't attend, fine.
But give it a rest eh, you are continually trolling in here.......
👍👍
Baldy Foghorn
24-04-2016, 04:45 PM
Why don't you just ignore him? He's clearly doing it just to annoy you.
I will be from now on.......Draining arguing with silly folk......
blackpoolhibs
24-04-2016, 04:46 PM
Blackpool hibs certainly likes an argument with as many people as he can...
Whoop di do he's attended a whole 5 games this year.
Tell me Blackpool hibs what's wrong with me taking my child to the game even if they have never been before??
They may see hibs win the cup decide they want to go with their dad on a sat - so why shoukdnt I be able to take them.?
Under your argument u think anyone with 1 point who's been to a game in the last 5 years they should get them first.
I'm so glad the marketing dept don't listen to you, or that I have to sit near you on a match day..
Mind you that wouldn't happen as you only go 5 times a year. Now that's real loyalty under your argument
Have you heard of this loyalty system we introduced, either you have one or you dont?
mcfly
24-04-2016, 04:53 PM
Have you heard of this loyalty system we introduced, either you have one or you dont?
You clearly didn't answer my point.
loyalty isn't going a few times and calling yourself a diehard fan.
Anyway you're boring me now, I'm fed up with ur argumentative conversation. You don't appreciate anyone's points s on here and seem to have irritated a few more fans than me.
Well done
blackpoolhibs
24-04-2016, 04:55 PM
You clearly didn't answer my point.
loyalty isn't going a few times and calling yourself a diehard fan.
Anyway you're boring me now, I'm fed up with ur argumentative conversation. You don't appreciate anyone's points s on here and seem to have irritated a few more fans than me.
Well done
Its more loyal than someone who's never been. :kettle:
SON OF PADDY
24-04-2016, 05:00 PM
its more loyal than someone who's never been. :kettle:
boring !!!!
blackpoolhibs
24-04-2016, 05:06 PM
boring !!!!
Dont answer then, put me on ignore. I find it astounding that the club introduce a loyalty scheme, but some of the very same fans who wanted it, now want even more for their loyalty.
And those not as loyal should be shafted. Now if thats boring fine, but at least its bloody fair.
SON OF PADDY
24-04-2016, 05:09 PM
Dont answer then, put me on ignore. I find it astounding that the club introduce a loyalty scheme, but some of the very same fans who wanted it, now want even more for their loyalty.
And those not as loyal should be shafted. Now if thats boring fine, but at least its bloody fair.
Consider it done.
This thread is pure comedy gold. Haha
Hibs should get the tickets out soon?
Blackpool hibs certainly likes an argument with as many people as he can...
Whoop di do he's attended a whole 5 games this year.
Tell me Blackpool hibs what's wrong with me taking my child to the game even if they have never been before??
They may see hibs win the cup decide they want to go with their dad on a sat - so why shoukdnt I be able to take them.?
Under your argument u think anyone with 1 point who's been to a game in the last 5 years they should get them first.
I'm so glad the marketing dept don't listen to you, or that I have to sit near you on a match day..
Mind you that wouldn't happen as you only go 5 times a year. Now that's real loyalty under your argument
You could argue 5 games from Blackpool to Edinburgh/Glasgow is more miles travelled than most Hibs fans in season?
I have been to 8 games from West Yorkshire how loyal is that?
Lancs Harp
24-04-2016, 05:16 PM
This thread is pure comedy gold. Haha
Hibs should get the tickets out soon?
Leeann is holding them back because we are squabbling and bickering.
ronaldo7
24-04-2016, 05:19 PM
The loyalty scheme has been made out to be a farce when it should have been so easy to manage. However when it comes to Hibs determining when points are allocated for certain matches then it sullies the whole point of a loyalty scheme.
Time to wrap it up imo unless they can get some guaranteed rules out for next season.
Lancs Harp
24-04-2016, 05:20 PM
You could argue 5 games from Blackpool to Edinburgh/Glasgow is more miles travelled than most Hibs fans in season?
I have been to 8 games from West Yorkshire how loyal is that?
I've have a season ticket from Lytham St Annes that must be make me an uber fan of royal/papal standing. :greengrin
We're all Hibs Fellas, no one better than anyone else
HibbyAndy
24-04-2016, 05:20 PM
Get a season ticket for next season and pretty much guarantee yourself a cup final ticket.
ronaldo7
24-04-2016, 05:22 PM
Get a season ticket for next season and pretty much guarantee yourself a cup final ticket.
Add a bairns tickets that you don't need and you could get two:greengrin
HibbyAndy
24-04-2016, 05:30 PM
Add a bairns tickets that you don't need and you could get two:greengrin
I'm renewing with 2 kids so we are 'hopefully' sorted.
blackpoolhibs
24-04-2016, 05:32 PM
Get a season ticket for next season and pretty much guarantee yourself a cup final ticket.
Thats correct, and how it should be. :agree:
Just have to reach nexts seasons cup final.:wink:
ronaldo7
24-04-2016, 05:33 PM
I'm renewing with 2 kids so we are 'hopefully' sorted.
:aok:
This thread puts one thing to bed anyway and that's regardless of what happens Fans won't be happy
Gerard
24-04-2016, 07:06 PM
It would take the wisdom of King Solomon to find a fair way that the majority of Hibs fans could accept as being fair. I have over 500 points as I have a ST for this year and a ST for next year. I donate to HSL and subscribe to Hibs TV. If I was given 1 brief for the cup game I would think this is fair as there will be many other fans in a similar position to mine. I know several fans who support Hibs who are not ST holders and they should be given the option of attending this game is possible. I have also considered going via the corporate route.
Scouse Hibee
24-04-2016, 07:22 PM
This thread puts one thing to bed anyway and that's regardless of what happens Fans won't be happy
Some will,some won't that's the way of things,it's impossible to please everyone.
Sioux
24-04-2016, 07:28 PM
A summary of this thread seems to be:
If Jimmy the season ticket holder gets one ticket, and Jamie who has attended some games as a walk up gets one ticket, then Jimmy is in the huff and throwing out the toys because Jamie's got the same. Jimmy wants to be seen as a better fan than Jamie so he must get a badge of honour as proof. The badge being one ticket more that Jamie.
blackpoolhibs
24-04-2016, 07:33 PM
A summary of this thread seems to be:
If Jimmy the season ticket holder gets one ticket, and Jamie who has attended some games as a walk up gets one ticket, then Jimmy is in the huff and throwing out the toys because Jamie's got the same. Jimmy wants to be seen as a better fan than Jamie so he must get a badge of honour as proof. The badge being one ticket more that Jamie.
I have the popcorn. :top marks
hibbymark
24-04-2016, 07:35 PM
I have over 500 points. I'm a season ticket holder and I've renewed for next year .
On the loyalty points system with 8000 season ticket holders ( this year ) everyone who is a
season ticket holder will get one ticket. I have no problem whatsoever with the club using reaching the
Cup final to sell more season tickets for next year by guaranteeing a cup final ticket to everyone
who commits to a season ticket next year. I would actually be disappointed if the club didn't do this to
generate more income for the club/player budget. If we reach 8000 season tickets again and everyone
From this year also gets a ticket that's 16,000 tickets sold with approx 5000 ( minimum ) left for the
next wave of loyalty points supporters then another wave after that should there still be availablity .
A summary of this thread seems to be:
If Jimmy the season ticket holder gets one ticket, and Jamie who has attended some games as a walk up gets one ticket, then Jimmy is in the huff and throwing out the toys because Jamie's got the same. Jimmy wants to be seen as a better fan than Jamie so he must get a badge of honour as proof. The badge being one ticket more that Jamie.
:faf:
IberianHibernian
24-04-2016, 09:22 PM
I have over 500 points. I'm a season ticket holder and I've renewed for next year .
On the loyalty points system with 8000 season ticket holders ( this year ) everyone who is a
season ticket holder will get one ticket. I have no problem whatsoever with the club using reaching the
Cup final to sell more season tickets for next year by guaranteeing a cup final ticket to everyone
who commits to a season ticket next year. I would actually be disappointed if the club didn't do this to
generate more income for the club/player budget. If we reach 8000 season tickets again and everyone
From this year also gets a ticket that's 16,000 tickets sold with approx 5000 ( minimum ) left for the
next wave of loyalty points supporters then another wave after that should there still be availablity .Didn`t realize 500 points was possible . ST in 14 / 15 and 15 / 16 plus every home cup game and every away match in league and cup I suppose .
Think everyone agrees that club should use cup final to maximise ST sales though I suspect people exaggerate real effect on sales here since how many people will renew to get a ticket for a friend / relative without knowing what division we`ll be in ( in 2013 that wasn`t a problem , can`t remember exact dates of final sales in 2012 when we had the big game v Dunfermline ) knowing that they`ll probably get a ticket for final anyway . As a compromise why don`t club say adult renewals get extra ticket but not STs for kids which cost about the price of an adult ticket for one match ( there are many adult Hibs fans who don`t go to many if any matches because they can`t afford to ) . That way , all kids with ST can see final but lifelong Hibbies who can`t afford ST also get a chance of seeing final .
Andy74
24-04-2016, 11:13 PM
A summary of this thread seems to be:
If Jimmy the season ticket holder gets one ticket, and Jamie who has attended some games as a walk up gets one ticket, then Jimmy is in the huff and throwing out the toys because Jamie's got the same. Jimmy wants to be seen as a better fan than Jamie so he must get a badge of honour as proof. The badge being one ticket more that Jamie.
It's not about badges it's about tickets.
Why not have these tickets in about the same proportion as tickets for every other Hibs game?
Looks like usually season ticket holders account for over 90% or more of usual attendance. So why not make sure that this amount is available for season ticket holders to do what they will with?
jgl07
24-04-2016, 11:24 PM
I am that annoyed about the uncertainty about ticket allocation that I will try and book hospitality.
If I go down that route will I still be entitled to ticket(s) from my season card?
MKHIBEE
25-04-2016, 05:24 AM
You could argue 5 games from Blackpool to Edinburgh/Glasgow is more miles travelled than most Hibs fans in season?
I have been to 8 games from West Yorkshire how loyal is that?
I reckon that beats my 5 from Northampton.
Sioux
25-04-2016, 07:31 AM
It's not about badges it's about tickets.
Why not have these tickets in about the same proportion as tickets for every other Hibs game?
Looks like usually season ticket holders account for over 90% or more of usual attendance. So why not make sure that this amount is available for season ticket holders to do what they will with?
Coz you've only got one arse. OK 90% at ER are season ticket holders. But those 'friends and companions' that will benefit from you don't turn up every other Saturday, and don't qualify for a ticket by their own efforts. If they did they wouldn't need to rely on you.
"Look at me, I'm important I'll get you a ticket"
If the top level of loyalty points get you two tickets then every level must get two tickets. That's that.
marinello59
25-04-2016, 07:43 AM
Coz you've only got one arse. OK 90% at ER are season ticket holders. But those 'friends and companions' that will benefit from you don't turn up every other Saturday, and don't qualify for a ticket by their own efforts. If they did they wouldn't need to rely on you.
"Look at me, I'm important I'll get you a ticket"
One each for season ticket holders should leave about 14000 tickets. That leaves about 7 each for this seasons regular walk up support. Sorted. :greengrin
Sioux
25-04-2016, 07:51 AM
Exactly :greengrin
Off the bar
25-04-2016, 08:30 AM
Anyone actually know when the club will announce details? I'll not book travel until it's clear whether with my limited loyalty points I can get a ticket.
Hermit Crab
25-04-2016, 10:31 AM
Anyone actually know when the club will announce details? I'll not book travel until it's clear whether with my limited loyalty points I can get a ticket.
We are hoping for the sake of this thread and peoples anxiety that Hibs announce something this week.
NAE NOOKIE
25-04-2016, 11:15 AM
You could argue 5 games from Blackpool to Edinburgh/Glasgow is more miles travelled than most Hibs fans in season?
I have been to 8 games from West Yorkshire how loyal is that?
23 home games this season x 35 miles = 805 miles ....... if you add on 6 miles per trip to pick up my mates that's 943 miles ..... Funnily enough. add in another 2 home games and its almost exactly the same as 5 trips from Blackpool.
And some folk canny be bothered to travel a few miles on a bus tae get tae ER :greengrin
Hermit Crab
25-04-2016, 11:23 AM
23 home games this season x 35 miles = 805 miles ....... if you add on 6 miles per trip to pick up my mates that's 943 miles
And some folk canny be bothered to travel a few miles on a bus tae get tae ER :greengrin
They can be bothered to go to Hampden though......:rolleyes:
pacoluna
25-04-2016, 11:33 AM
Should just make it season ticket holders gets a ticket guaranteed,, then let the part timers cue and squabble between them selves. Cant remember the same fuss for the morton game on sat there or the sevco game on wed where only 8/9 thousand turned up. Loyalty points should just come in to contention when the away end allocation is limited... not Hampden.
Its like a couple of gangs. seasonticketers v the nonseasons.
flash
25-04-2016, 11:38 AM
Should just make it season ticket holders gets a ticket guaranteed,, then let the part timers cue and squabble between them selves. Cant remember the same fuss for the morton game on sat there or the sevco game on wed where only 8/9 thousand turned up. Loyalty points should just come in to contention when the away end allocation is limited... not Hampden.
At least try to be a little bit subtle.
pacoluna
25-04-2016, 11:46 AM
At least try to be a little bit subtle.
I'm being neutral ;)
its the same with the tartan army I have to give my ssc membership to others so I can collect enough points for the bigger away weekends
Its like a couple of gangs. seasonticketers v the nonseasons.
Decided to come out of the huff at being slandered as a Yam! I'm back.
I sort of referred to that a century of posts ago. It does seem a bit them and us type of scenario.
:thumbsup:
Decided to come out of the huff at being slandered as a Yam! I'm back.
I sort of referred to that a century of posts ago. It does seem a bit them and us type of scenario.
:thumbsup:So the ideal scenario for the season ticketers is we have 16000 fans at the final. 8000 seasonticketers and 8000 seasonticketers grannys.
So the ideal scenario for the season ticketers is we have 16000 fans at the final. 8000 seasonticketers and 8000 seasonticketers grannys.
Do I sound as if I was on the Krypton Factor?
Seems there is no fair answer!
:greengrin
Do I sound as if I was on the Krypton Factor?
Seems there is no fair answer!
:greengrin
Glad we changed to the loyalty point system. It should be fair.
Lancs Harp
25-04-2016, 12:22 PM
Its like a couple of gangs. seasonticketers v the nonseasons.
I don't think anyone is saying that season ticket holders shouldn't definitely get a ticket, with 8000 season ticket holders and 20k plus final tickets it would be absurd if they didnt.
I think the bone of contention is some season ticket holders being offered more than one ticket.
My own view, as a season ticketholder is that I should be entitled to one ticket.
I don't think anyone is saying that season ticket holders shouldn't definitely get a ticket, with 8000 season ticket holders and 20k plus final tickets it would be absurd if they didnt.
I think the bone of contention is some season ticket holders being offered more than one ticket.
My own view, as a season ticketholder is that I should be entitled to one ticket.
I think it's more they feel entitled to more than one ticket.
marinello59
25-04-2016, 12:34 PM
I think it's more they feel entitled to more than one ticket.
I think you'll find the vast majority of comments are from people worried that ST holders get more than one ticket rather than a large number of people having some sort of sense of entitlement. In fact most of the moaning seems to have been generated by you. :greengrin
The majority of us are happy to see what the club announces.
I think you'll find the vast majority of comments are from people worried that ST holders get more than one ticket rather than a large number of people having some sort of sense of entitlement. In fact most of the moaning seems to have been generated by you. :greengrin
The majority of us are happy to see what the club announces.
I've stated several times like most people who are not st holders that the st holders should of course be looked after with at least one ticket.
Dunno how that seems like moaning but there you are.
:aok:
NAE NOOKIE
25-04-2016, 12:39 PM
I think it's more they feel entitled to more than one ticket.
To be honest mate whether they feel entitled doesn't come into it. Hibs will, quite rightly in my opinion, use the lure of a final ticket to persuade folk to renew or return to being ST holders, or hopefully bag a few first timers.
When you look at the comments on here from folk saying they wont renew if we are still in the Championship next season you can hardly blame them :dunno:
To be honest mate whether they feel entitled doesn't come into it. Hibs will, quite rightly in my opinion, use the lure of a final ticket to persuade folk to renew or return to being ST holders, or hopefully bag a few first timers.
When you look at the comments on here from folk saying they wont renew if we are still in the Championship next season you can hardly blame them :dunno:
I agree with you bud 100%. Of course the Hibs will want to take advantage of monies potentially generated.
I don't think many people would disagree with that well made point.
It's more about st holders insisting they get twa tickets'
DH1875
25-04-2016, 12:47 PM
Many season ticket holders do rangers have?
I can't believe we're still discussing this, ST holders will get 1 ticket as previous cup finals, they'll get another if they renew before tickets go on sale ( it's called marketing and all clubs do it ), any new ST will get get one, the rest will go on sale either in one big sale or in two phases 90+ pts then anyone on database with 1+point, we'll all get one so don't worry.
EH6 Hibby
25-04-2016, 12:54 PM
I agree with you bud 100%. Of course the Hibs will want to take advantage of monies potentially generated.
I don't think many people would disagree with that well made point.
It's more about st holders insisting they get twa tickets'
You are contridicting yourself.
If Hibs are going to use the lure of a cup final to get people to renew their season ticket, the only way to do that is to offer them an extra ticket. Current season ticket holders will be guaranteed one so unless there is a reason to renew, some people may not. Hibs will use this to get people to renew.
CapitalGreen
25-04-2016, 12:55 PM
Many season ticket holders do rangers have?
HUNners
CapitalGreen
25-04-2016, 01:00 PM
If you assume 80% of people on the database purchase a ticket. (Over/Under Estimate?)
80% of 20,000 = 16,000
22,000 allocation - 16,000 = 6,000
Less than 6,000 people have renewed for 2016/17.
You are contridicting yourself.
If Hibs are going to use the lure of a cup final to get people to renew their season ticket, the only way to do that is to offer them an extra ticket. Current season ticket holders will be guaranteed one so unless there is a reason to renew, some people may not. Hibs will use this to get people to renew.
I have no problems accepting the above picture you present. The more money the Hi bees generate the better player can be put on the park.
I myself have not managed to get to as many games as I would have liked to this season due to on-going health problems but hope to attend many more next season regardless of which league my beloved Hibs are playing in.
:aok:
marinello59
25-04-2016, 01:04 PM
I've stated several times like most people who are not st holders that the st holders should of course be looked after with at least one ticket.
Dunno how that seems like moaning but there you are.
:aok:
Maybe it's the bits where you moan about anybody renewing POSSIBLY getting an additional ticket? :greengrin
CallumLaidlaw
25-04-2016, 01:04 PM
I don't feel entitled to 2 tickets, but if offered a 2nd, I would take it up. My feeling is, the club should be using the cup final as an opportunity to maximise next seasons season ticket uptake, so it would make perfect sense to offer current season ticket holders 1 ticket, and also 1 ticket to those who commit to a season ticket for next year.
Bearing in mind we've sold just over 4000 tickets for next season, even if we sold an extra thousand before semi ticket's go on sale, thats 13,000 possible tickets taken up. Then take into account not all ST holders that have renewed will take both tickets, as well as the kids ST's that won't be used due to it being Rangers we're playing, it wouldn't surprise me if there were still over 9000 tickets available after the first tranche is finished.
At the end of the day, the club will announce how they are selling the tickets - some will be happy, some won't. But I feel that anyone that is desperate to be there, will be.
I don't feel entitled to 2 tickets, but if offered a 2nd, I would take it up. My feeling is, the club should be using the cup final as an opportunity to maximise next seasons season ticket uptake, so it would make perfect sense to offer current season ticket holders 1 ticket, and also 1 ticket to those who commit to a season ticket for next year.
Bearing in mind we've sold just over 4000 tickets for next season, even if we sold an extra thousand before ST's go on sale, thats 13,000 possible tickets taken up. Then take into account not all ST holders that have renewed will take both tickets, as well as the kids ST's that won't be used due to it being Rangers we're playing, it wouldn't surprise me if there were still over 9000 tickets available after the first tranche is finished.
At the end of the day, the club will announce how they are selling the tickets - some will be happy, some won't. But I feel that anyone that is desperate to be there, will be.
Except for the cracking Jimmy v Jamie previous post which was very funny, this is by far the most reasoned post on this thread.
:applause:
Lancs Harp
25-04-2016, 01:09 PM
The biggest influence on increasing season ticket sales (not just encouraging renewals) would be to win the cup and get promoted.
The biggest influence on increasing season ticket sales (not just encouraging renewals) would be to win the cup and get promoted.
That is the optimum scenario, one that would have this squad of Hibs players as forever legends. Big Stubbsy could have the keys to Edinburgh if this happens.
:gwa:
DH1875
25-04-2016, 01:16 PM
The biggest influence on increasing season ticket sales (not just encouraging renewals) would be to win the cup and get promoted.
But we won't know if we're gonna be promoted until after we win the cup.
pacoluna
25-04-2016, 01:31 PM
its plausible that one division could separate ourselves from Edinburgh city next season :faint: wonder if anyone will trade there £380 season ticket for a £50 season ticket to watch them :cb
its plausible that one division could separate ourselves from Edinburgh city next season :faint: wonder if anyone will trade there £380 season ticket for a £50 season ticket to watch them :cb
Dearie me.
pacoluna
25-04-2016, 01:44 PM
Dearie me.
Haha it was joke or for some sensitive souls on this forum they might regard it as "trolling" :tsk tsk:
flash
25-04-2016, 01:55 PM
This thread has jumped the shark.
blackpoolhibs
25-04-2016, 01:59 PM
23 home games this season x 35 miles = 805 miles ....... if you add on 6 miles per trip to pick up my mates that's 943 miles ..... Funnily enough. add in another 2 home games and its almost exactly the same as 5 trips from Blackpool.
And some folk canny be bothered to travel a few miles on a bus tae get tae ER :greengrin
I choose to live 230 miles away from easter road, distance does not make anyone more deserving than someone who lives on easter road in my opinion.
The club brought in a loyalty system, and rightly or wrongly the points people have accumulated should entitle each point owner to a ticket on a sliding scale from top to bottom.
Giving two tickets to some who have more points than others is just not fair, and makes the point system a complete waste of time.
I'd be very upset if my points gained did not get me a ticket when some where getting two.
Libby Hibby
25-04-2016, 02:08 PM
I choose to live 230 miles away from easter road, distance does not make anyone more deserving than someone who lives on easter road in my opinion.
The club brought in a loyalty system, and rightly or wrongly the points people have accumulated should entitle each point owner to a ticket on a sliding scale from top to bottom.
Giving two tickets to some who have more points than others is just not fair, and makes the point system a complete waste of time.
I'd be very upset if my points gained did not get me a ticket when some where getting two.
What if everyone got two? 2 for current ST's then 2 each there after?
Are you saying 1 each to give you a better chance of getting a ticket when your time comes around?
Not a dig in anyway just interested to see your viewpoint.
blackpoolhibs
25-04-2016, 02:16 PM
What if everyone got two? 2 for current ST's then 2 each there after?
Are you saying 1 each to give you a better chance of getting a ticket when your time comes around?
Not a dig in anyway just interested to see your viewpoint.
I have 2 debentures, i also have 105 points that will virtually guarantee me a ticket should i have needed it. That ticket wont be used and left for someone lower down the scale.
I'm just finding it strange how this loyalty system was lauded as the best thing since sliced bread because it rewarded loyalty.
You took your chance by the amount of games you attended and got the points accordingly. Now it appears if the club give 2 tickets for renewing for next year, the loyalty system is a two tiered system and those further down the points might be shafted.
Either way i would have had a ticket anyway, but for me the system was brought in to sort this exact kind of scenario out.
Will it? :dunno:
Super_JMcGinn
25-04-2016, 02:20 PM
I choose to live 230 miles away from easter road, distance does not make anyone more deserving than someone who lives on easter road in my opinion.
The club brought in a loyalty system, and rightly or wrongly the points people have accumulated should entitle each point owner to a ticket on a sliding scale from top to bottom.
Giving two tickets to some who have more points than others is just not fair, and makes the point system a complete waste of time.
I'd be very upset if my points gained did not get me a ticket when some where getting two.
How anyone can argue people that have bought a season ticket this and next year are not entitled to 2 tickets is beyond me, especially people as yourself who are forever slating the team and where we are playing. If it were not for the season ticket holders the attendance at home matches would number in the hundreds.
Yes you are entitled to stay away if you see fit, but please don't bleat on about loyalty when clearly you are far from a loyal supporter when all you go to are big games.
How anyone can argue people that have bought a season ticket this and next year are not entitled to 2 tickets is beyond me, especially people as yourself who are forever slating the team and where we are playing. If it were not for the season ticket holders the attendance at home matches would number in the hundreds.
Yes you are entitled to stay away if you see fit, but please don't bleat on about loyalty when clearly you are far from a loyal supporter when all you go to are big games.
I normally agree with posts you make Gail but can't with this one.
Surely St holders should be happy being guarenteed at least one ticket for the bonus huge games and any others are gravy.
Every club needs the walk up fans who don't go to every game and to try to entice them to keep attending.
:aok:
wookie70
25-04-2016, 02:28 PM
I take 3 kids to the games and all of us have a season ticket this year and have renewed. We have also went to quite a few away games and cup games. We each have a single arse and I don't see the need for each of us to be entitled to more than a single ticket to sit on them at Hampdump on Final Day. That being said I have friends and relations who for a variety of reasons can't or don't go to games or simply can't be bothered with the hassle of Loyalty Points and pay at the gate. I'll take my extra 4 tickets if offered but I would far rather they opened ticket sales up in tranches as early as possible and allowed me to buy us each a single ticket with my reward being first choice at the good seats.
The past few attempts at selling tickets for the big games have been poor imo. There is plenty time get the tickets on sale and start selling them to those with the highest points totals first. If you want to sit with pals with less points then wait till the sales hit their tranche.
Libby Hibby
25-04-2016, 02:28 PM
I have 2 debentures, i also have 105 points that will virtually guarantee me a ticket should i have needed it. That ticket wont be used and left for someone lower down the scale.
I'm just finding it strange how this loyalty system was lauded as the best thing since sliced bread because it rewarded loyalty.
You took your chance by the amount of games you attended and got the points accordingly. Now it appears if the club give 2 tickets for renewing for next year, the loyalty system is a two tiered system and those further down the points might be shafted.
Either way i would have had a ticket anyway, but for me the system was brought in to sort this exact kind of scenario out.
Will it? :dunno:
That's the clubs main issue, they probably want to use the loyalty scheme but will that maximise next years ST sales whether it be renewals or new ST's.
Super_JMcGinn
25-04-2016, 02:31 PM
I normally agree with posts you make Gail but can't with this one.
Surely St holders should be happy being guarenteed at least one ticket for the bonus huge games and any others are gravy.
Every club needs the walk up fans who don't go to every game and to try to entice them to keep attending.
:aok:
I have to ask you where have the walk up fans been all season? and last for that matter. If we had a big walk up number I would certainly agree with 1 ticket per person but sadly we don't, and personally I don't see why i should only be afforded 1 ticket if I have already ploughed my money into the club for neat season and Joe Bloggs who has attended 1 game all season gets the same.
blackpoolhibs
25-04-2016, 02:32 PM
How anyone can argue people that have bought a season ticket this and next year are not entitled to 2 tickets is beyond me, especially people as yourself who are forever slating the team and where we are playing. If it were not for the season ticket holders the attendance at home matches would number in the hundreds.
Yes you are entitled to stay away if you see fit, but please don't bleat on about loyalty when clearly you are far from a loyal supporter when all you go to are big games.
I'm bleating about loyalty? :faf: All season and last its been all about the loyalty points, all about how many points folk have.
Some people cant go every week, some hardly at all. But those who have made the effort to acquire as many LOYALTY points as they could, by either walking up and buying through the club or printing off at home have accumulated points.
Now it appears their effort is not deemed good enough for you, they shouldn't have bothered unless they go all the time.
Its a loyalty scheme in name only.
I have to ask you where have the walk up fans been all season? and last for that matter. If we had a big walk up number I would certainly agree with 1 ticket per person but sadly we don't, and personally I don't see why i should only be afforded 1 ticket if I have already ploughed my money into the club for neat season and Joe Bloggs who has attended 1 game all season gets the same.
Not going to argue with you at all Gail. I am in respect for you putting your hard earned in the club.
:aok:
CapitalGreen
25-04-2016, 02:34 PM
If you assume 80% of people on the database purchase a ticket. (Over/Under Estimate?)
80% of 20,000 = 16,000
22,000 allocation - 16,000 = 6,000
Less than 6,000 people have renewed for 2016/17.
No thoughts on this?
Somebody mentioned renewals are currently sitting at around 4,000. Which would would mean tickets for renewed season tickets would still be possible at up to 90% database uptake.
blackpoolhibs
25-04-2016, 02:37 PM
That's the clubs main issue, they probably want to use the loyalty scheme but will that maximise next years ST sales whether it be renewals or new ST's.
:agree: And its something i really do understand, but the loyalty scheme was brought in for days like this. People who cant go very often would go knowing they were getting on the loyalty train.
A loyalty system cant just be for those who go all the time, it has to filter down fairly.
Super_JMcGinn
25-04-2016, 02:38 PM
I'm bleating about loyalty? :faf: All season and last its been all about the loyalty points, all about how many points folk have.
Some people cant go every week, some hardly at all. But those who have made the effort to acquire as many LOYALTY points as they could, by either walking up and buying through the club or printing off at home have accumulated points.
Now it appears their effort is not deemed good enough for you, they shouldn't have bothered unless they go all the time.
Its a loyalty scheme in name only.
No one is arguing some people can't go every week, I myself can't go every week but I go as often as I can, unlike yourself and others with loyalty points who go whenever they see fit. And your constant use of that smiley is rather childish.
Anyway I'm not getting into an argument or debate with a guy who CHOOSES not to attend, the club will make the correct decision in the end.
And btw everyone who has attended ER this past 2 seasons pretty regularly will secure a ticket, regardless if we get 2 or not.
blackpoolhibs
25-04-2016, 02:50 PM
No one is arguing some people can't go every week, I myself can't go every week but I go as often as I can, unlike yourself and others with loyalty points who go whenever they see fit. And your constant use of that smiley is rather childish.
Anyway I'm not getting into an argument or debate with a guy who CHOOSES not to attend, the club will make the correct decision in the end.
And btw everyone who has attended ER this past 2 seasons pretty regularly will secure a ticket, regardless if we get 2 or not.
Who chooses not to attend, if i lived in Edinburgh i'd be there every week. I dont have the will or the energy these days for the 14-15 hour day to watch Hibs in the 2nd tier of Scottish football every week, and its not cheap either.
JeMeSouviens
25-04-2016, 02:54 PM
No one is arguing some people can't go every week, I myself can't go every week but I go as often as I can, unlike yourself and others with loyalty points who go whenever they see fit. And your constant use of that smiley is rather childish.
Anyway I'm not getting into an argument or debate with a guy who CHOOSES not to attend, the club will make the correct decision in the end.
And btw everyone who has attended ER this past 2 seasons pretty regularly will secure a ticket, regardless if we get 2 or not.
But it's ok for your +1 who CHOOSES* not to attend?
ST holders fully deserve 2 tickets imo, but sadly, since they only have 1 arse**, the 2nd will go to somebody who doesn't (necessarily) deserve one.
As a lapsed ex-ST, half hearted, fairweather type, I'm happy to wait until the ST holders have all picked out the best seats at their leisure but everyone else should be taking their chances with me according to their points, or what was the point of us having a points system at all?
* (possibly)
** (maybe they could get first dibs on the pies? :wink:)
fulshie
25-04-2016, 03:00 PM
There's a lot being written on this thread about season ticket holders getting first choice of cup final tickets which I totally agree with but, for me I believe I have the right to be in that first choice also, and I'm not a season ticket holder. I work continental shift so a lot of Sat, Sun and midweek fixtures I cant make so its doesn't make financial sense for me to have a ST. I have though got well over 150 loyality points as I make the trip to ER when I'm off shift. So for me the loyalty points system works and I'm sure there will be others like me.
green day
25-04-2016, 03:00 PM
Maybe the admins should close this totally radge thread and people could relax until the club actually announces what is going to happen?
Just a thought :greengrin:greengrin
Super_JMcGinn
25-04-2016, 03:01 PM
But it's ok for your +1 who CHOOSES* not to attend?
ST holders fully deserve 2 tickets imo, but sadly, since they only have 1 arse**, the 2nd will go to somebody who doesn't (necessarily) deserve one.
As a lapsed ex-ST, half hearted, fairweather type, I'm happy to wait until the ST holders have all picked out the best seats at their leisure but everyone else should be taking their chances with me according to their points, or what was the point of us having a points system at all?
* (possibly)
** (maybe they could get first dibs on the pies? :wink:)
Who says my plus 1 doesn't attend? My plus 1 will have attended a lot more games this past few years than the majority who are crying in their milk about the subject, not talking about you in particular.
I would say the point in the loyalty system is to reward loyalty and buying a season ticket for next season is exactly that.
SteveHFC
25-04-2016, 03:01 PM
Seen on twitter no announcement won't be made until later this week. :aok:
JeMeSouviens
25-04-2016, 03:04 PM
Seen on twitter no announcement won't be made until later this week. :aok:
A-ha, so some announcement *will* be made before later this week! :wink:
JeMeSouviens
25-04-2016, 03:10 PM
Who says my plus 1 doesn't attend? My plus 1 will have attended a lot more games this past few years than the majority who are crying in their milk about the subject, not talking about you in particular.
I would say the point in the loyalty system is to reward loyalty and buying a season ticket for next season is exactly that.
Nobody (hence I put the possibly). However, your +1 isn't as loyal as an ST holder but may or may not be more loyal than me. Let the points fall as they may. :cb
Nobody's saying ST holders shouldn't be rewarded for their loyalty, but their friends' disloyalty shouldn't be ignored either.
Although, tbh, I'm not over-bothered, there'll be 21-22k tickets going on sale, almost all of us that get our fingers out will get one.
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