View Full Version : Cup final tickets let the scramble commence
Pretty Boy
18-04-2016, 05:00 PM
Sorry if already asked or I'm being daft, but are .net running a bus for the final. Thanks. Steven
We will be.
Just a bit fine tuning going on. Something to be annoumced this week hopefully.
jgl07
18-04-2016, 05:24 PM
My suggestion is:
One ticket to 2015-16 season ticket holders.
One ticket to 2016-17 season ticket holders.
One ticket to those with a threshold of loyalty points.
Two tickets to those with both a 2015-16 and a 2016-17 season ticket.
That would encourage existing season ticket holders to renew and for others to buy.
That should leave plenty for the second allocation for those with less points.
Hermit Crab
18-04-2016, 05:25 PM
My suggestion is:
One ticket to 2015-16 season ticket holders.
One ticket to 2016-17 season ticket holders.
One ticket to those with a threshold of loyalty points.
Two tickets to those with both a 2015-16 and a 2916-17 season ticket.
That would encourage existing season ticket holders to renew and for others to buy.
That should leave plenty for the second allocation for those with less points.
We'll all be dead :greengrin
The last time I heard there were around 21k supporters with 1point or more so think anyone with points will be okay for a ticket and think there will deffinetly be a General sale like every other cup final we have been in recently
Wellbankhibby
18-04-2016, 05:39 PM
I agree if you attend most games you deserve a ticket for the game. But even if you can only manage certain games it does not make you less of a Hibee. We are all there to support the Hibees. I hate these threads that point out part time fans. I would suggest people that don't go to games can't afford it when you tally the travel cost and tickets. I haven't been at many games recently due to work commitments. I am as much a Hibee as anyone who has a season ticket. We are all in this together and collectively cheer on Hibs to win the cup. I have never been so sure that this is our year. :flag:
Ringothedog
18-04-2016, 09:32 PM
Does anyone not really get a ticket for any final perhaps maybe the hearts one? Celtic ones people were selling them all over the shop.
Nah, a wee club like us never sell out our allocation for finals.I think we should probably only get about 15000 for this final.
SlickShoes
18-04-2016, 09:50 PM
If you go to all our remaining home games you'll have over 100 points. Think you've a great chance of getting a ticket.
If they are actually allowing you to get points still, I said in an earlier post or thread, that in my account i've received no points for any purchases since the start of march. I have been to Hibs v Ross Co, Hibs v Inverness and Hibs v Dundee UTD. The last points I got were for the league cup semi.
SunshineOnLeith
18-04-2016, 09:51 PM
Nah, a wee club like us never sell out our allocation for finals.I think we should probably only get about 15000 for this final.
He didn't say anything about not selling out though, did he?
Ronniekirk
18-04-2016, 09:54 PM
If they are actually allowing you to get points still, I said in an earlier post or thread, that in my account i've received no points for any purchases since the start of march. I have been to Hibs v Ross Co, Hibs v Inverness and Hibs v Dundee UTD. The last points I got were for the league cup semi.
Do you have more than one client reference number
B.H.F.C
18-04-2016, 10:03 PM
If they are actually allowing you to get points still, I said in an earlier post or thread, that in my account i've received no points for any purchases since the start of march. I have been to Hibs v Ross Co, Hibs v Inverness and Hibs v Dundee UTD. The last points I got were for the league cup semi.
I've still been getting my points fine. The club haven't said anything to suggest points aren't still being awarded either, other than for the final and semi final.
jonny
18-04-2016, 10:04 PM
I am a walk up but have accumulated 85 loyalty points this season. I was there on Saturday and going again on Wed. Frustrating as my chances of a cup final ticket are slim if non existent.
At Easter Road we play...
90 points for a half season ticket, I reckon anyone that has 90 or more will get a ticket without any problems.
It might be a bit of a bun fight for those between 1-90 but I'm pretty sure you'll be in the lifeboat mate.
Frazerbob
18-04-2016, 10:07 PM
If they are actually allowing you to get points still, I said in an earlier post or thread, that in my account i've received no points for any purchases since the start of march. I have been to Hibs v Ross Co, Hibs v Inverness and Hibs v Dundee UTD. The last points I got were for the league cup semi.
I've had my points added for Wednesday for a ticket bought yesterday. Falkirk points also added no problem.
Glory Lurker
18-04-2016, 10:31 PM
We'll all be dead :greengrin
I think that folk who buy STs just now for seasons in the last century of this millennium know that all too well and deserve extra priority for being that committed.
Nah, a wee club like us never sell out our allocation for finals.I think we should probably only get about 15000 for this final.
What are you on about? We have sold out more than 15,000 loads of times. My post was in terms of spare tickets, ones that come up etc that usually everyone in my experience who wants a ticket usually gets one. That's why I asked the question.
He didn't say anything about not selling out though, did he?
👍
SlickShoes
19-04-2016, 12:30 AM
I've had my points added for Wednesday for a ticket bought yesterday. Falkirk points also added no problem.
Alright cheers I better email or phone them then, just assumed they had stopped it!
Dav1986
19-04-2016, 09:52 AM
If loyalty points, I reckon they will do over 90 for first wave as that's the minimum that half ST holders will have. That would also reward this season's regular walk ups.
Would make sense to me.
Hermit Crab
19-04-2016, 02:55 PM
£35 big ones a ticket anyone?
£35 big ones a ticket anyone?
That's a bit buckin steep is it no? :confused:
They'll do the same as the League cup, 2 tickets per season ticket, then the rest on general sale a few days later.
Hermit Crab
19-04-2016, 03:37 PM
That's a bit buckin steep is it no? :confused:
I'm sure the last 2 SC finals we have been in were £35? :confused:
Frazerbob
19-04-2016, 03:38 PM
They'll do the same as the League cup, 2 tickets per season ticket, then the rest on general sale a few days later.
No they won't. The LC final basically had unlimited number of tickets available to Hibs fans, this final will only have 21k.
Hermit Crab
19-04-2016, 03:41 PM
They'll do the same as the League cup, 2 tickets per season ticket, then the rest on general sale a few days later.
No way, One per ST this season and one per ST next season. If you have one and have renewed you'll get two.
SteveHFC
19-04-2016, 03:43 PM
Personally think it should be 2 per season ticket holder and whatever is left in the general sale.
No way, One per ST this season and one per ST next season. If you have one and have renewed you'll get two.
We have 7k season ticket holders, we'll get around 25K tickets, 2 per season tickets gives 11k left for general sale, plenty to go around.
Giving 2 per season ticket will give a chance for friends and family to sit together.
SteveHFC
19-04-2016, 03:52 PM
We have 7k season ticket holders, we'll get around 25K tickets, 2 per season tickets gives 11k left for general sale, plenty to go around.
Giving 2 per season ticket will give a chance for friends and family to sit together.
:agree:
dizzy hibee
19-04-2016, 03:53 PM
If they are actually allowing you to get points still, I said in an earlier post or thread, that in my account i've received no points for any purchases since the start of march. I have been to Hibs v Ross Co, Hibs v Inverness and Hibs v Dundee UTD. The last points I got were for the league cup semi.
Same here - I've been to these 3 games, I was given points for the Inverness match but not the other 2 - I was assuming I'd done something wrong, or that the club was not giving out points for these games. I'd better get in touch with the club, thanks for bringing this up! :aok:
Hibs Class
19-04-2016, 03:56 PM
We have 7k season ticket holders, we'll get around 25K tickets, 2 per season tickets gives 11k left for general sale, plenty to go around.
Giving 2 per season ticket will give a chance for friends and family to sit together.
Capacity is only around 52000. Don't know how many debentures there are, guess around 5k and imagine a lot of them will take up their seats for this game. I'd be surprised if each club got much more than 20k in the initial allocation.
Capacity is only around 52000. Don't know how many debentures there are, guess around 5k and imagine a lot of them will take up their seats for this game. I'd be surprised if each club got much more than 20k in the initial allocation.
Is it only 52? I thought it was nearer 58, well that'll only give us around 20k then, till enough.
Hibs Class
19-04-2016, 04:03 PM
Is it only 52? I thought it was nearer 58, well that'll only give us around 20k then, till enough.
Sunday's official attendance was just over 50k - some seats will be vacant because of segregation, so I'd guess that the final attendance will be similar to Sunday.
iwasthere1972
19-04-2016, 04:05 PM
It will be the usual 22K so two for season ticket holders and still about 6 or 7 thousand for non season ticket holders. Don't mess around let's just get them sold.
Ringothedog
19-04-2016, 04:21 PM
We have 7k season ticket holders, we'll get around 25K tickets, 2 per season tickets gives 11k left for general sale, plenty to go around.
Giving 2 per season ticket will give a chance for friends and family to sit together.
We have 8.5 k season ticket holders, plus renewals for next season, could be limited to them at 2 per ticket. No general sale.
Keith_M
19-04-2016, 04:56 PM
We are beng given 22k tickets. If every ST holder were to actually buy two each, that would leave only 5k for everyone else.
FWIW, I don't think they would all buy two each anyway and many of the ones that do would use the 2nd ticket for someone that actually has some Loyalty Points.
However, I think it would be a bit off if they bought tickets and then sold them on to just anybody (potentially Rangers Fans) or to some Rangers supporting mates. It's happened before and I wouldn't bet against it happening again, which is one reason I'd prefer Hibs not to go down that route and just give one per ST holder, then open the sale to people with Loyalty Points after that.
NAE NOOKIE
19-04-2016, 06:33 PM
We are beng given 22k tickets. If every ST holder were to actually buy two each, that would leave only 5k for everyone else.
FWIW, I don't think they would all buy two each anyway and many of the ones that do would use the 2nd ticket for someone that actually has some Loyalty Points.
However, I think it would be a bit off if they bought tickets and then sold them on to just anybody (potentially Rangers Fans) or to some Rangers supporting mates. It's happened before and I wouldn't bet against it happening again, which is one reason I'd prefer Hibs not to go down that route and just give one per ST holder, then open the sale to people with Loyalty Points after that.
I cant imagine any scenario where I would knowingly give or sell a cup final ticket for the Hibs end to a Rangers supporter, no matter how big mates they were with me. Anybody who does wants shooting.
iwasthere1972
19-04-2016, 06:48 PM
I cant imagine any scenario where I would knowingly give or sell a cup final ticket for the Hibs end to a Rangers supporter, no matter how big mates they were with me. Anybody who does wants shooting.
Me too. Not even in the equation.
marinello59
19-04-2016, 06:56 PM
We are beng given 22k tickets. If every ST holder were to actually buy two each, that would leave only 5k for everyone else.
FWIW, I don't think they would all buy two each anyway and many of the ones that do would use the 2nd ticket for someone that actually has some Loyalty Points.
However, I think it would be a bit off if they bought tickets and then sold them on to just anybody (potentially Rangers Fans) or to some Rangers supporting mates. It's happened before and I wouldn't bet against it happening again, which is one reason I'd prefer Hibs not to go down that route and just give one per ST holder, then open the sale to people with Loyalty Points after that.
That's the thing about those who have continued buying season tickets over the past few years, they are the most likely to sell spares to Huns. :rolleyes:
IberianHibernian
19-04-2016, 06:57 PM
Same here - I've been to these 3 games, I was given points for the Inverness match but not the other 2 - I was assuming I'd done something wrong, or that the club was not giving out points for these games. I'd better get in touch with the club, thanks for bringing this up! :aok:
That`s right . No points were given for 2 Hampden matches .
hibs0666
19-04-2016, 07:00 PM
£35 big ones a ticket anyone?
No problem with that for a national final.
No way, One per ST this season and one per ST next season. If you have one and have renewed you'll get two.
That's the way they should do it to encourage renewals and new ST holders. If you want to be guaranteed a cup final ticket you buy a ST.
Ginger Gehagan
19-04-2016, 09:22 PM
They'll do the same as the League cup, 2 tickets per season ticket, then the rest on general sale a few days later.
It was 2 tickets if you had 180 points or more for the League cup, I've got 230 points but I've not got a season ticket.
TheGreenMan
19-04-2016, 09:52 PM
It was 2 tickets if you had 180 points or more for the League cup, I've got 230 points but I've not got a season ticket.
We potentially could have had 40k tickets for this though
Criswell
19-04-2016, 10:05 PM
If we have 8,500 season ticket holders and our home attendances are roughly similar, it suggests to me have very few "walk-ups" accumulating loyalty points anyway. Can't see what the issue is here?
Onion
20-04-2016, 03:55 AM
Finals against the OF are less attractive to families and those of a nervous disposition, so expect everyone who wants a ticket to get one. Tomorrow's result/performance will also go a long way to determining the scramble for Final tickets.
History proves that Hibs play their best football and get best results when there's less expectation and smaller crowds. That bodes well for Hampden, 21 May. Might be making that up, but it feels that way :greengrin
jgl07
20-04-2016, 05:09 AM
Lots of season ticket holders will not go. Especially in a match against Rangers with all the unpleasantness, sectarianism, and bigotry that will be experienced.
Hibs will get 20-22,000 tickets compared to an average home support of 8,500, so it should be enough.
Hibs need to do two things; firstly reward existing season ticket holders and those with lots of loyalty points, and secondly encourage existing season ticket holders and encourage others to sign up.
Hence allocate one ticket to current season ticket holders and those with decent numbers of loyalty points.
Also allocate one to new season ticket holders and an extra ticket the existing season ticket holders if they have already renewed.
There has to be something to encourage new season ticket holders to sign up and for existing holders to renew.
GreenLake
20-04-2016, 05:16 AM
Finals against the OF are less attractive to families and those of a nervous disposition, so expect everyone who wants a ticket to get one. Tomorrow's result/performance will also go a long way to determining the scramble for Final tickets.
History proves that Hibs play their best football and get best results when there's less expectation and smaller crowds. That bodes well for Hampden, 21 May. Might be making that up, but it feels that way :greengrin
The new team are the ones who should fear defeat which for them is unthinkable in this cup which they have never won before.
JimBHibees
20-04-2016, 06:12 AM
Lots of season ticket holders will not gbo. Especially in a match against Rangers with all the unpleasantness, sectarianism, and bigotry that will be experienced.
Hibs will get 20-22,000 tickets compared to an average home support of 8,500, so it should be enough.
Hibs need to do two things; firstly reward existing season ticket holders and those with lots of loyalty points, and secondly encourage existing season ticket holders and encourage others to sign up.
Hence allocate one ticket to current season ticket holders and those with decent numbers of loyalty points.
Also allocate one to new season ticket holders and an extra ticket the existing season ticket holders if they have already renewed.
There has to be something to encourage new season ticket holders to sign up and for existing holders to renew.
I don't believe for one minute lots of season ticket holders won't go to a cup final. A few yes, lots don't think so IMO.
Brooster
20-04-2016, 06:23 AM
"Lots of season ticket holders wont go" and "Everyone who wants one will get one" are just two of most unlikely comments Ive read on the last page. I think we should give season ticket holders (the lefeblood of the club) 2 tickets each then let the daytrippers have the remaining couple of thousand.
JimBHibees
20-04-2016, 06:31 AM
"Lots of season ticket holders wont go" and "Everyone who wants one will get one" are just two of most unlikely comments Ive read on the last page. I think we should give season ticket holders (the lefeblood of the club) 2 tickets each then let the daytrippers have the remaining couple of thousand.
Agree totally if 8500 seasons and all took 2 which I don't think would happen, still 5k left.
marinello59
20-04-2016, 06:38 AM
Agree totally if 8500 seasons and all took 2 which I don't think would happen, still 5k left.
There has to be some priority given to non-ST holders who have accumulated a decent amount of points under the loyalty points scheme.
Hermit Crab
20-04-2016, 07:45 AM
Question. Say someone only bought a half season ticket this season but has purchased a full season ticket next season then will they be entitled to two tickets for the final?
Scouse Hibee
20-04-2016, 07:50 AM
Question. Say someone only bought a half season ticket this season but has purchased a full season ticket next season then will they be entitled to two tickets for the final?
As the club have not announced any system of allocation yet, noone can answer this ;-)
Ronniekirk
20-04-2016, 07:53 AM
Well i have my debenture ticket sorted through a friend lbut given its Rangers in the Final i wont get anymore than that i don't think (got four for the league cup final )
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DH1875
20-04-2016, 07:54 AM
"Lots of season ticket holders wont go" and "Everyone who wants one will get one" are just two of most unlikely comments Ive read on the last page. I think we should give season ticket holders (the lefeblood of the club) 2 tickets each then let the daytrippers have the remaining couple of thousand.
IF every season ticket holder took up the option of a 2nd ticket then you could already be looking at 6k daytrippers as you put it. All for season ticket holders being rewarded but why should their mates be. Even if someone only has 10 or 20 points they have just as much rights to a ticket as a season ticket holders wife or mate who's there for the day out.
Frazerbob
20-04-2016, 07:57 AM
There has to be some priority given to non-ST holders who have accumulated a decent amount of points under the loyalty points scheme.
Correct....and there will be. No way the club will introduce a loyalty system then abandon it for the exactly the type of game it was introduced for. Just wish the SFA would hurry up and confirm the allocations (which we all know already) so the club can announce the plan.
Ginger Gehagan
20-04-2016, 08:52 AM
We potentially could have had 40k tickets for this though
Yeah I know and I wasn't suggesting they do the same again. Just pointing out that it was 2 tickets for everyone with 180 points or more.
Correct....and there will be. No way the club will introduce a loyalty system then abandon it for the exactly the type of game it was introduced for. Just wish the SFA would hurry up and confirm the allocations (which we all know already) so the club can announce the plan.
Yeah I know and I wasn't suggesting they do the same again. Just pointing out that it was 2 tickets for everyone with 180 points or more.
Did they not do this for the League cup final, 180+ points was 2 tickets each and the left over for general sale, so that gave season ticket holders and people with good points first dibs.
Onceinawhile
20-04-2016, 09:43 AM
Question. Say someone only bought a half season ticket this season but has purchased a full season ticket next season then will they be entitled to two tickets for the final?
Hope so as that's the position I'm in. Me, the wife and my son will all be sorted, but want to get three others for the people I went to the semi and the league cup final with.
NAE NOOKIE
20-04-2016, 10:06 AM
Hope so as that's the position I'm in. Me, the wife and my son will all be sorted, but want to get three others for the people I went to the semi and the league cup final with.
I would guess Hibs will treat half ST's the same as full ST's ...... cant see why not.
LustForLeith
20-04-2016, 10:29 AM
Unlike the semi final, hopping those who've only got a season ticket for next year get some sort of priority.
Frazerbob
20-04-2016, 10:49 AM
Did they not do this for the League cup final, 180+ points was 2 tickets each and the left over for general sale, so that gave season ticket holders and people with good points first dibs.
The LC final basically had an infinite number of tickets available to Hibs fans. We could have had 40k if needed. This time we will have 21k so some folk will miss out.
JimBHibees
20-04-2016, 10:51 AM
Unlike the semi final, hopping those who've only got a season ticket for next year get some sort of priority.
Will definitely happen IMO they will be trying to increase sales for next season from existing season ticket holders who have not yet renewed and also new season ticket holders on the back of the final.
LustForLeith
20-04-2016, 11:10 AM
Will definitely happen IMO they will be trying to increase sales for next season from existing season ticket holders who have not yet renewed and also new season ticket holders on the back of the final.
:thumbsup:
Maybe hold a small number back for a ballot to increase crowds for the last few home games?
matty_f
20-04-2016, 12:35 PM
Maybe hold a small number back for a ballot to increase crowds for the last few home games?
I wouldn't do that, if folk can't be arsed coming along to those games without an incentive then I'm not sure I'd be going out my way to make sure they had a chance of a final ticket, to be honest.
Guaranteeing a ticket for new and current season ticket holders is the best way for the club to capitalise on reaching the cup final.
I wouldn't do that, if folk can't be arsed coming along to those games without an incentive then I'm not sure I'd be going out my way to make sure they had a chance of a final ticket, to be honest.
Guaranteeing a ticket for new and current season ticket holders is the best way for the club to capitalise on reaching the cup final.
Good point. Wonder why Hibs done the ballot thing last SC final.
Green Fish
20-04-2016, 12:55 PM
Was in the ticket office this morning, tried to get some info but all they would say is there's likely to be an announcement early next week.
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Dashing Bob S
20-04-2016, 12:56 PM
As an over-privileged ****, I daresay I should experience very little difficulty in securing as many tickets as I require. I may even purchase some and not bother using them, thus depriving 'true fans' of the opportunity to see their team win the cup.
I shall the look at the empty seats next to me and utter the odd chuckle, building slowly into a manic, villainous cacophony, as the game progresses.
KeithTheHibby
20-04-2016, 01:24 PM
If you have a season ticket for this season you deserve a ticket for the final.
If you buy a season ticket for next season you deserve a ticket for the final.
If you fall into both camps you deserve the option to get 2 tickets for the final.
The rest should then be allocated on the loyalty points system.
Then general sale if any left.
It really should be that simple.
bigwheel
20-04-2016, 01:45 PM
If you have a season ticket for this season you deserve a ticket for the final.
If you buy a season ticket for next season you deserve a ticket for the final.
If you fall into both camps you deserve the option to get 2 tickets for the final.
The rest should then be allocated on the loyalty points system.
Then general sale if any left.
It really should be that simple.
This is 100% how it should be handled - simple but fair...
EH6 Hibby
20-04-2016, 02:18 PM
I expect Hibs to use the loyalty points system but also to entice people to renew. My theory is, those with 300/350 and above will be able to buy 2 each. There will then be further tiers after that.
Andy74
20-04-2016, 02:19 PM
If you have a season ticket for this season you deserve a ticket for the final.
If you buy a season ticket for next season you deserve a ticket for the final.
If you fall into both camps you deserve the option to get 2 tickets for the final.
The rest should then be allocated on the loyalty points system.
Then general sale if any left.
It really should be that simple.
I'd go with 2 and 2 then 1 for loyalty points from 1 to whatever a season ticket is, then general sale.
Seriously, for most people sitting with just a few thousand others for most of this season, even when we were playing well, there should be the ability to buy a couple if you want. Seems ridiculous there is a debate about ticket availability!
grammyb111
20-04-2016, 02:35 PM
If you have a season ticket for this season you deserve a ticket for the final.
If you buy a season ticket for next season you deserve a ticket for the final.
If you fall into both camps you deserve the option to get 2 tickets for the final.
The rest should then be allocated on the loyalty points system.
Then general sale if any left.
It really should be that simple.
Agree 100%, encourage people to renew/buy for next year is a priority.
Pretty sure this will be the case as well.
NAE NOOKIE
20-04-2016, 02:39 PM
As an over-privileged ****, I daresay I should experience very little difficulty in securing as many tickets as I require. I may even purchase some and not bother using them, thus depriving 'true fans' of the opportunity to see their team win the cup.
I shall the look at the empty seats next to me and utter the odd chuckle, building slowly into a manic, villainous cacophony, as the game progresses.
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Northern Hibby
20-04-2016, 03:20 PM
2 questions.
How many tickets did we get for the Hearts final?
How many did we get for the Celtic final?
Pretty Boy
20-04-2016, 03:58 PM
2 questions.
How many tickets did we get for the Hearts final?
How many did we get for the Celtic final?
I'm sure the Hearts game was very close to 21800. I'd assume the Celtic game was similar.
cabbageandribs1875
20-04-2016, 04:11 PM
I'm sure the Hearts game was very close to 218000. I'd assume the Celtic game was similar.
only the likes of Barcelona/Real Madrid/Hertz/PSG could sell as many tickets as that for a game
Pretty Boy
20-04-2016, 04:13 PM
only the likes of Barcelona/Real Madrid/Hertz/PSG could sell as many tickets as that for a game
Indeed. Edited, we're only a wee team after all.
cabbageandribs1875
20-04-2016, 04:17 PM
Indeed. Edited, we're only a wee team after all.
:greengrin
Keith_M
20-04-2016, 04:21 PM
I'd go with 2 and 2 then 1 for loyalty points from 1 to whatever a season ticket is, then general sale.
Seriously, for most people sitting with just a few thousand others for most of this season, even when we were playing well, there should be the ability to buy a couple if you want. Seems ridiculous there is a debate about ticket availability!
And do what with the second one? Give it to somebody that didn't sit there all season?
I really don't get the logic of it. If you want to reward Loyalty to the Club, there's a Loyalty system in place that can do just that. Anything else can only reward the friends or relatives of Season Ticket holders, possibly putting them ahead of people that might just have actually attended games.
DH1875
20-04-2016, 04:55 PM
And do what with the second one? Give it to somebody that didn't sit there all season?
I really don't get the logic of it. If you want to reward Loyalty to the Club, there's a Loyalty system in place that can do just that. Anything else can only reward the friends or relatives of Season Ticket holders, possibly putting them ahead of people that might just have actually attended games.
Spot on :agree:
DH1875
20-04-2016, 05:05 PM
If someone has say 50 points this season and went to the semifnal and league cup final (no loyalty points for them) then they've spent at least £150 following Hibs. Why should they miss out to a season ticket holders mate or family member who doesn't go?
Everyone who went to the semi final should get to go.
Andy74
20-04-2016, 05:10 PM
And do what with the second one? Give it to somebody that didn't sit there all season?
I really don't get the logic of it. If you want to reward Loyalty to the Club, there's a Loyalty system in place that can do just that. Anything else can only reward the friends or relatives of Season Ticket holders, possibly putting them ahead of people that might just have actually attended games.
Whoever I choose to give it to frankly. There's enough to go round and people who attend games would get one in the next wave.
Everyone who went to the semi final should get to go.
Pretty Boy
20-04-2016, 05:26 PM
Let's be honest when people talk about fairness, and I include myself in this, what they really mean is something that sounds vaguely fair that suits their ticketing needs or wants best.
So ST holders argue it should be either 2 as standard or 2 for a renewal so they can go with their mate. Regular attendees argue it should be all based on loyalty points and either 1 or 2 tickets over a certain number. Semi regular attendees work out how they can push themselves as high up the list as possible and those who can't be ersed going most weeks rubbish every suggestion because they are at the bottom however it pans out. There are obviously other groups I've missed out who have verying levels of 'entitlement' imo.
Thankfully when Hibs make the decision it will be a case of balancing fairness with cold, hard business sense. This is a sales and marketing godsend for Hibs and even with Rod away from day to day affairs it will be used as such. It would be foolish to do it any other way.
jgl07
20-04-2016, 05:28 PM
I don't believe for one minute lots of season ticket holders won't go to a cup final. A few yes, lots don't think so IMO.
I am basing this on people I know. The guy who sits next to me at Easter Road did not go to the League Cup final. It was a birthday party for his grandson, although he did attend the semifinal. Someone else I know has had a season ticket since the year dot but has not attended a Final in the last 20 years as far as Inam aware.
I know people who will not go to any match involving Rangers, especially in Glasgow. If I still had young children, I would be wary of taking them to this match. I went to my first visit to Ibrox around 1994. It was awful. We were in the lower tier with a hoard of sneering Huns leering at us from the top tier looking like gargoyles. Every time a goal went in or a corner was awarded a bar range of spit, urine and debris came down on us from above. Meanwhile the security staff and the heavy presence of Strathcyde's finest looked the other way and took no action. Any Hibs supporter who stepped out of line would be whisked out of the ground so fast his feet would not touch the ground.
I vowed I would never go again. I have gone a couple of times to Cup matches where Hibs are given the whole end and both were without the family. Apart from that I have not set foot in the ground bar two cup semifinals against Celtic. I hardly ever attend matches against Rangers at Easter Road although I did see the thumping win last season against The Rangers. Ever wondered why Hibs home match attendances are so poor against Rangers and The Rangers given there is a full South Stand? A lot of people will not go because of the poisonous atmosphere and the air of bigotry, sectarianism and general purpose unpleasantness.
If Hibs do not allocate two tickets for renewing season ticket holders don't be surprised if this goes to sale with 1 loyalty point (or whatever threshold Hibs set to keep out Huns). The prophets of doom will be on here slagging off Stubbs and most of the team to put people off going anyway. Scotrail will also do their best by buggering up the train timetables. They will probably close the line to Glasgow Central via Shotts, as happened for the League Cup Final. They have already shut Queens Street High Level. This will reducenthe number of trains from ten an hour to four! They may even force Hibs fans to travel via Stirling to allow the Edinburgh Loyal a throublefree journey through to Glasgow. (I lied about the Stirling diversion)!
Michael
20-04-2016, 05:28 PM
Any idea when details on ticket sales will be announced?
Northern Hibby
20-04-2016, 05:41 PM
I'm sure the Hearts game was very close to 21800. I'd assume the Celtic game was similar.
Better start exercising my redial finger for the general sale 😉
Beefster
20-04-2016, 06:40 PM
Folk are going to bitch and whine whatever the club do. I'm starting to think that the loyalty scheme has been a bad idea and wouldn't really care if the club scraps it.
Callum_62
20-04-2016, 09:52 PM
one things for sure, at 300 quid a pop for corporate, im unlikely to make it!
Stuarty27
20-04-2016, 10:03 PM
The loyalty points system was brought in for this exact reason.
The highest loyalty points should get tickets.
Andy74
20-04-2016, 11:49 PM
The loyalty points system was brought in for this exact reason.
The highest loyalty points should get tickets.
It's actually pretty redundant for this at the top end. Between 0 and season ticket points then yes, which should really have been the main point of the scheme.
IWasThere2016
21-04-2016, 05:29 AM
I've never had a ST, I doubt I ever will but these guys n gals MUST be top of any list of any scheme to allocate tickets.
Personally, I think you should be allowed 1 Adult and the option of 1 under 16 also if you have a ST for 15/16 AND a similar 1+1 option if you have a ST for this and next season if already purchased.
It cannot be difficult to see why this is morally correct and something Hibs should do IMHO.
Bad Martini
21-04-2016, 12:39 PM
I fail to see the logic as to why someone who has a ST is entitled to any more than 1 ticket :confused:
To sit in groups with other ST holders will be no problem - tickets can be booked together in the ST wave.
Therefore, the only reason is to give them an extra ticket for someone who would not otherwise have enough points?
In my humble opinion, the fairest way to do this is:
1) 1 ticket for anyone with a season ticket (existing)
2) 1 ticket for anyone who buys a season ticket by the end of the ST holder window
3) 1 ticket for folk with enough points after the 1st (ST) window
4) If any are left, general sale
Then you reward season ticket holders by giving them their chance to get their arse into Hampden. You encourage NEW ST's to be sold (and give them a cup final chance). Finally, the folk with points (from loyalty, due to supporting the club) come next....and everyone else gets nowt. Surely THAT has to be fair?
Anything else, defeats the point of loyalty (even if ST's "might" reward another loyal fan)
Scouse Hibee
21-04-2016, 12:44 PM
I fail to see the logic as to why someone who has a ST is entitled to any more than 1 ticket :confused:
To sit in groups with other ST holders will be no problem - tickets can be booked together in the ST wave.
Therefore, the only reason is to give them an extra ticket for someone who would not otherwise have enough points?
In my humble opinion, the fairest way to do this is:
1) 1 ticket for anyone with a season ticket (existing)
2) 1 ticket for anyone who buys a season ticket by the end of the ST holder window
3) 1 ticket for folk with enough points after the 1st (ST) window
4) If any are left, general sale
Then you reward season ticket holders by giving them their chance to get their arse into Hampden. You encourage NEW ST's to be sold (and give them a cup final chance). Finally, the folk with points (from loyalty, due to supporting the club) come next....and everyone else gets nowt. Surely THAT has to be fair?
Anything else, defeats the point of loyalty (even if ST's "might" reward another loyal fan)
So 2 for existing who renew then?
Sproule Three
21-04-2016, 01:07 PM
I fail to see the logic as to why someone who has a ST is entitled to any more than 1 ticket :confused:
To sit in groups with other ST holders will be no problem - tickets can be booked together in the ST wave.
Therefore, the only reason is to give them an extra ticket for someone who would not otherwise have enough points?
In my humble opinion, the fairest way to do this is:
1) 1 ticket for anyone with a season ticket (existing)
2) 1 ticket for anyone who buys a season ticket by the end of the ST holder window
3) 1 ticket for folk with enough points after the 1st (ST) window
4) If any are left, general sale
Then you reward season ticket holders by giving them their chance to get their arse into Hampden. You encourage NEW ST's to be sold (and give them a cup final chance). Finally, the folk with points (from loyalty, due to supporting the club) come next....and everyone else gets nowt. Surely THAT has to be fair?
Anything else, defeats the point of loyalty (even if ST's "might" reward another loyal fan)
Im flying over from Australia, Was over late last year and attended 4 games but it was 3 years before that admittedly so don't have many loyalty points . I have 5 relatives and 2 mates who have held season tickets for at least 10 years some for 25 and have all renewed again. Im relying on someone there to get me a ticket. Its fairly reasonable people with that loyalty should be able to get a spare ticket to give to people, like me . -;)
hibee-boys
21-04-2016, 02:07 PM
I have no problem with the club incentivising the sale of next years season tickets by guaranteeing them a final ticket, makes absolute commercial sense. We could still be (hopefully not!) in the championship next year so the additional revenue will be vital.
Keith_M
21-04-2016, 04:56 PM
Whoever I choose to give it to frankly. There's enough to go round and people who attend games would get one in the next wave.
Crap answer, frankly. You totally avoided every point I made.
You only need one ticket. Let everybody else get theirs on merit.
We have around 20k Fans with at least 1 Loyalty Point. We're getting just over 20k tickets. Perfect opportunity to award the Loyalty of those Fans.
Iggy Pope
21-04-2016, 05:24 PM
So 2 for existing who renew then?
Nice point, well made. And a yes from me for what it's worth. Loyalty isn't only about next season.
Peanut Shaz
21-04-2016, 05:26 PM
My issue is that we can assume season ticket holders and loyalty point supporters only get one ticket. (Granted it's guaranteed). However if they go on general sale Joe Bloggs can probably buy four or more tickets. So Mr Daytripper potentially can buy more tickets at one time than a season ticket holder or loyalty point supporter. Doesn't seem right.
Andy74
21-04-2016, 05:27 PM
Crap answer, frankly. You totally avoided every point I made.
You only need one ticket. Let everybody else get theirs on merit.
We have around 20k Fans with at least 1 Loyalty Point. We're getting just over 20k tickets. Perfect opportunity to award the Loyalty of those Fans.
My point was it is a reward to those who stumped and and turned up. You could give 2 to every season ticket holder and still have 5,000 left over.
We have had very few walk ups this season. Most will get one from a season ticket holder anyway. It's worked like this in the past.
I know your point is that it rewards the other person but that's not really a big deal as I see it.
Speedy
21-04-2016, 05:34 PM
My issue is that we can assume season ticket holders and loyalty point supporters only get one ticket. (Granted it's guaranteed). However if they go on general sale Joe Bloggs can probably buy four or more tickets. So Mr Daytripper potentially can buy more tickets at one time than a season ticket holder or loyalty point supporter. Doesn't seem right.
Nothing to stop season ticket holders buying more at the same time as Joe Bloggs
Andy74
21-04-2016, 05:38 PM
Nothing to stop season ticket holders buying more at the same time as Joe Bloggs
Yeah and wait so they can get in a group. Allowing them to buy more just allows better organisation largely.
I strongly believe the group who have bought season tickets the last couple of years deserve to have things made as easy as possible.
The level of walk ups has been poor even when we were playing well. We suddenly need to look after about 13,000 extra??
DH1875
21-04-2016, 05:41 PM
Everyone who went to the semi final should get to go.
Nothing to stop season ticket holders buying more at the same time as Joe Bloggs
And Joe Bloggs has to be on the database so will have been to at least one game.
Speedy
21-04-2016, 06:23 PM
Yeah and wait so they can get in a group. Allowing them to buy more just allows better organisation largely.
I strongly believe the group who have bought season tickets the last couple of years deserve to have things made as easy as possible.
The level of walk ups has been poor even when we were playing well. We suddenly need to look after about 13,000 extra??
I'm not really bothered either way if ST holders get an extra ticket when it's likely to go to a general sale. Longer term I do think we need to tackle groups so that ST holders, regular walk ups & rare walk ups can sit together for game.
I was just commenting on "So Mr Daytripper potentially can buy more tickets at one time than a season ticket holder or loyalty point supporter. Doesn't seem right." as it wasn't true.
DH1875
21-04-2016, 06:29 PM
We have over 20k fans on the database with at least 1 point. Do folk really think this will go to a general sale once season ticket holders and folks with loyalty points get their tickets :confused:
HibsMax
21-04-2016, 07:50 PM
Nothing to stop season ticket holders buying more at the same time as Joe Bloggs
The risk with that is that the ST holder waits and doesn't get a ticket. If they buy a ticket using the ST then they can't sit with their mates. They would have to buy one ticket using their ST, then buy more tickets with their mates and, if successful, sell the one ticket they bought earlier to someone else. Not a terrible system but tough to arrange if you want to sit in a group of people who might be spread around. I'll just be happy to get a ticket.
leggeto
21-04-2016, 08:21 PM
If it was based on loyalty we may as well only ask for about 12k and give the Hun's the rest,but we will get 21k with 2 tickets to the folk that renew,then the database loyalty points
It should be one to st holders, one for new st's for next season then loyalty points.
St holders should only get one per book.
croydonhibby
21-04-2016, 08:36 PM
Surely season ticket holders should be bottom of the list, they get to see hibs every week
Carheenlea
21-04-2016, 08:41 PM
It should be one to st holders, one for new st's for next season then loyalty points.
St holders should only get one per book.
If a season ticket holder has renewed then they have two season books - one for this season and one for next, despite not knowing what league Hibs will be in. They will be the supporters who have backed the club in good times and bad, and will continue to do so. Two tickets for current season holder renewal is a pretty reasonable reward.
If a season ticket holder has renewed then they have two season books - one for this season and one for next, despite not knowing what league Hibs will be in. They will be the supporters who have backed the club in good times and bad, and will continue to do so. Two tickets for current season holder renewal is a pretty reasonable reward.
I agree that the st holders are the backbone of the club and deserve to be looked after. I myself have had many a st over the years however why should st holders be able to pass on the spare ticket to people who may never have been to a game in years instead of the fans who attend games on a walk up basis?
I don't agree with that.
OtleyHibs
21-04-2016, 09:19 PM
Surely season ticket holders should be bottom of the list, they get to see hibs every week
I'm with you, it's just greed : )
marinello59
21-04-2016, 09:22 PM
I agree that the st holders are the backbone of the club and deserve to be looked after. I myself have had many a st over the years however why should st holders be able to pass on the spare ticket to people who may never have been to a game in years instead of the fans who attend games on a walk up basis?
I don't agree with that.
The fans who attend on a regular walk up basis will get s ticket under the loyalty points scheme.
Bishop Hibee
21-04-2016, 09:26 PM
I agree that the st holders are the backbone of the club and deserve to be looked after. I myself have had many a st over the years however why should st holders be able to pass on the spare ticket to people who may never have been to a game in years instead of the fans who attend games on a walk up basis?
I don't agree with that.
Two tickets per ST holder rewards those who have forked out and are the lifeblood of the club. Two per ST holder is tried and tested and works. It allows large groups of Hibs supporting friends and family to sit together. There are no valid reasons to change this successful club policy.
The fans who attend on a regular walk up basis will get s ticket under the loyalty points scheme.
I don't think there is any guarantee of that at all! If existing sts get 2 ticks with new st holders/half st's etc, no way is everyone with points sure to get a tick.
Again why should an st holder get two then maybe take his wife along for example who never goes to any games?
h18eeynick
21-04-2016, 09:27 PM
The loyalty points system was brought in for this exact reason.
The highest loyalty points should get tickets.
I dont agree - dont know where most loyality points guys live but having a 5 hour round trip limits amount of games I can go to due to work etc whereas someone living in or near Edinburgh has a choice as to whether to go or not depending on their situation. I go as often as I can and was a season ticket holder along with my son until 3 years ago attending every home game , including mid week , and quite a lot of away games but personal situation has changed job wise and son is now in New Zealand . If I have to watch it on TV then so be it but please dont judge based on attendance. I was all set to go to Rangers game yesterday but customer problem put paid to that as couldnt get away in time
marinello59
21-04-2016, 09:42 PM
I don't think there is any guarantee of that at all! If existing sts get 2 ticks with new st holders/half st's etc, no way is everyone with points sure to get a tick.
Again why should an st holder get two then maybe take his wife along for example who never goes to any games?
Maybe he can only buy a season ticket because his wife watches the kids while he goes. I love the cycle of these things. At the start of the season we get people posting why they won't be buying a season ticket and at the end of it we get people saying why ST holders benefits should be restricted.
It makes no difference to me, my whole family are season ticket holders so we are going anyway. But if the club use this to sell extra Season Tickets for next year then good on it. The more ST holders the better.
mcfly
21-04-2016, 09:47 PM
Honestly folk on here moaning about what the club should do - where were u last night???
12000 fans in total and 3000 were rangers fans so the fans who are demanding that season tickets should get a max of 1 each. Get real we are the ones who pay the big money to support the club.
Remember a walk up goes when he can and pays each time.
A season ticket holder pays up front and ubget no refund if u can't go to a game so there has to be season tickets get 2 if u have renewed again.
You can moan all you like but this is what will happen.
1 ticket for season tickets
2 tickets for current season tickets who have renewed again.
This is how it should be
Maybe he can only buy a season ticket because his wife watches the kids while he goes. I love the cycle of these things. At the start of the season we get people posting why they won't be buying a season ticket and at the end of it we get people saying why ST holders benefits should be restricted.
It makes no difference to me, my whole family are season ticket holders so we are going anyway. But if the club use this to sell extra Season Tickets for next year then good on it. The more ST holders the better.
I totally agree with you, the more st's the better, however there's no way an st holder should be given an extra ticket to give to potentially people who would never pay to go to bog standard games.
Just my opinion but one per st surely!
marinello59
21-04-2016, 09:53 PM
I totally agree with you, the more st's the better, however there's no way an st holder should be given an extra ticket to give to potentially people who would never pay to go to bog standard games.
Just my opinion but one per st surely!
How many do you think would go to people who never go to games? Precious few I would guess. We will have over 20k tickets for this game. Every single Hibs fan who has been a regular attender this season will get one.
How many do you think would go to people who never go to games? Precious few I would guess. We will have over 20k tickets for this game. Every single Hibs fan who has been a regular attender this season will get one.
I admire your optimism that all walk ups with points will get one.
I've personally known St holders at past finals to give their spare ticket to their wives/Girlfriends/Mates who never pay to get into games.
marinello59
21-04-2016, 10:10 PM
I admire your optimism that all walk ups with points will get one.
I've personally known St holders at past finals to give their spare ticket to their wives/Girlfriends/Mates who never pay to get into games.
All walk ups with a decent amount of points will get one.
If ST holders who have renewed do end up with an extra ticket ( and I doubt they will) then it really is totally up to them what they do with it. They've supported the club with a big upfront payment during tough times, I'd trust them to do the right thing.
Libby Hibby
21-04-2016, 10:13 PM
2 per ST's, then the boys with points who walk up, then general sale
All walk ups with a decent amount of points will get one.
If ST holders who have renewed do end up with an extra ticket ( and I doubt they will) then it really is totally up to them what they do with it. They've supported the club with a big upfront payment during tough times, I'd trust them to do the right thing.
I've already agreed with you that st holders should be looked after and given one ticket.
What's wrong with that. If their friends wives gfs other relations want one they should pay to go to games like everybody else.
2 per ST's, then the boys with points who walk up, then general sale
Why should one season ticket holder get two tickets for the final!
h18eeynick
21-04-2016, 10:20 PM
I've already agreed with you that st holders should be looked after and given one ticket.
What's wrong with that. If their friends wives gfs other relations want one they should pay to go to games like everybody else.
My wife has declared that she is out after seeing too many defeats and son is in New Zealand so I think I deserve a ticket for freeing up 2 others !
marinello59
21-04-2016, 10:23 PM
I've already
What's wrong with that. If their friends wives gfs other relations want one they should pay to go to games like everybody else.
The vast majority of those tickets would go to regular attenders. All it would do is help ST holders get their groups sitting together. And there will plenty like me who won't take up any extra tickets.
I trust the club to allocate tickets in a way that will benefit our club the most.
Libby Hibby
21-04-2016, 10:24 PM
Why should one season ticket holder get two tickets for the final!
Why did they get 2 for the LC? 16k will go to ST's then 5k for everyone else, more than enough to go round
Why did they get 2 for the LC? 16k will go to ST's then 5k for everyone else, more than enough to go round
The question is and with all due respect of course - Why should one st holder be given two tickets?
I think the answer might be so they can pass them on to others of course. A number of which will go to people who have never been to a game in years!
Totally unfair to walk ups who will miss out.
marinello59
21-04-2016, 10:32 PM
The question is and with all due respect of course - Why should one st holder be given two tickets?
I think the answer might be so they can pass them on to others of course. A number of which will go to people who have never been to a game in years!
Totally unfair to walk ups who will miss out.
You keep ignoring the fact that if people are regular walk ups the loyalty points system will pick them up. 9 home games = 90 points and that will probably be enough for a trip to Hampden.
Libby Hibby
21-04-2016, 10:37 PM
You keep ignoring the fact that if people are regular walk ups the loyalty points system will pick them up. 10 home games = 90 points and that will probably be enough for a trip to Hampden.
Exactly and it's also assuming that some walk ups will not be swallowed up in the 16k for 2 per ST.
You keep ignoring the fact that if people are regular walk ups the loyalty points system will pick them up. 10 home games = 90 points and that will probably be enough for a trip to Hampden.
What about the people who could only make 5 games with less than 90 points surely they deserve a ticket before handing an st holder another ticket?
Exactly and it's also assuming that some walk ups will not be swallowed up in the 16k for 2 per ST.
Surely a person with one point should get a ticket before an st holder with two hands the second one to mate/gf/wife etc who never go to any matches anytime.
leggeto
21-04-2016, 10:50 PM
Honestly folk on here moaning about what the club should do - where were u last night???
12000 fans in total and 3000 were rangers fans so the fans who are demanding that season tickets should get a max of 1 each. Get real we are the ones who pay the big money to support the club.
Remember a walk up goes when he can and pays each time.
A season ticket holder pays up front and ubget no refund if u can't go to a game so there has to be season tickets get 2 if u have renewed again.
You can moan all you like but this is what will happen.
1 ticket for season tickets
2 tickets for current season tickets who have renewed again.
This is how it should be
Spot on McFly
Spot on McFly
Why do st holders want 2 tickets?
Not happy with just one so others can go but so they can sit with their pal or relative. I'm all right type of attitude, my opinion!
Libby Hibby
21-04-2016, 11:06 PM
Why do st holders want 2 tickets?
Not happy with just one so others can go but so they can sit with their pal or relative. I'm all right type of attitude, my opinion!
What's your situation DUX?
I would see your point if ER were getting larger attendances than current then walk ups would feel aggrieved but I think the core that are currently going are ST's. I would honestly wager that if you made it 2 per ST then the majority of said walk ups would be part of that initial amount. Regardless, there would be at least 5k left for the club to reward walk ups by allowing them the chance to purchase pre general sale.
What's your situation DUX?
I would see your point if ER were getting larger attendances than current then walk ups would feel aggrieved but I think the core that are currently going are ST's. I would honestly wager that if you made it 2 per ST then the majority of said walk ups would be part of that initial amount. Regardless, there would be at least 5k left for the club to reward walk ups by allowing them the chance to purchase pre general sale.
I just don't get why one st holder should get twa tickets. It just seems that St holders have become self-entitlled.
Of course St holders should be guarenteed one ticket, no problems. The rest should go to new st holders for next season and then those on the points system then if and it's a big if any are left general sale.
Libby Hibby
21-04-2016, 11:12 PM
I just don't get why one st holder should get twa tickets. It just seems that St holders have become self-entitlled.
Of course St holders should be guarenteed one ticket, no problems. The rest should go to new st holders for next season and then those on the points system then if and it's a big if any are left general sale.
What's your current situation DUX?
What's your current situation DUX?
I will of course be desperate to land a ticket.
Was there the three times in 1979 against the rangers and would love to see us get our revenge.
Libby Hibby
21-04-2016, 11:16 PM
I will of course be desperate to land a ticket.
Was there the three times in 1979 against the rangers and would love to see us get our revenge.
Non ST?
Non ST?
That would be telling :greengrin
Libby Hibby
21-04-2016, 11:23 PM
That would be telling :greengrin
Let's just assume your not hence why it suits a non ST's position for it only to be 1 per ST.
I am a current ST, swithering over next season as my old man is not too keen to commit until he sees what league we are in. In saying that, I'd prefer for current ST's to get 2, to allow me and my walk up m8s and family members the best chance of experiencing the game together. That's just the way I want it to pan out.
It might be one, it might be 2, who knows but the club will soon be telling us and it will be the fairest way, it has been so far each big game to date.
Let's just assume your not hence why it suits a non ST's position for it only to be 1 per ST.
I am a current ST, currently swithering over next season as my old man is not too keen to currently commit until he sees what league we are in. In saying that, I'd prefer for current ST's to get 2, to allow me and my walk up m8s the best chance of experiencing the game together. That's just the way I want it to pan out.
It might be one, it might be 2, who knows but the club will soon be telling us and it will be the fairest way, it has been so far each big game to date.
Let's just say I have had many a season ticket over the course of many a year. I have alway's been happy to be guarenteed one seat as per my season ticket, no more no less.
However I am impressed by the way you outline your position with reasoned argument.
:greengrin
Libby Hibby
21-04-2016, 11:46 PM
Let's just say I have had many a season ticket over the course of many a year. I have alway's been happy to be guarenteed one seat as per my season ticket, no more no less.
However I am impressed by the way you outline your position with reasoned argument.
:greengrin
Why thank you sir
Beefster
22-04-2016, 05:49 AM
Folk keep talking about 'regular walk-up' as if we have thousands of them. Thre is no way that, after giving ST holders 2 tickets, that any 'regular walk-up' would miss out on the remaining sale if it was done on loyalty points.
What folk really mean is that Hibs should engineer the sale so that every person who once went to a big game and got some points is allowed a ticket IMHO.
Scouse Hibee
22-04-2016, 07:16 AM
Folk keep talking about 'regular walk-up' as if we have thousands of them. Thre is no way that, after giving ST holders 2 tickets, that any 'regular walk-up' would miss out on the remaining sale if it was done on loyalty points.
What folk really mean is that Hibs should engineer the sale so that every person who once went to a big game and got some points is allowed a ticket IMHO.
That's a very good point, there surely can't be that many regular walk ups who just buy from pods rather than the ticket office, loyalty points would therefore reflect their regular attendance.
Dav1986
22-04-2016, 07:48 AM
That's a very good point, there surely can't be that many regular walk ups who just buy from pods rather than the ticket office, loyalty points would therefore reflect their regular attendance.
I bought two from pods earlier this season as it was a late decision to go to the game as wasn't sure I could make it and wasn't waiting in queues at TO. Now if that happens I just buy it online and select print at home and scan barcode at turnstiles from my phone. Get the points and no queues. I've missed out on points from those games and final and SC semi but I'm still over 90 points (which I think will be the magic number as half St holders will be on this as a minimum) so ill be fine.
I reckon they will do;
360+ 2 tickets
90-359 1 ticket
Both the above as wave 1.
Then 1-89 after the above have had their chance to get tickets.
Should mean current and renewed get 2 each, new get 1 and half St and regular walk ups such as myself get 1 too and these groups of friends can all sit beside each other aswell.
Reckon there will still be a couple of thousand left after 90+ have had their chance to get tickets
hibsforeurope
22-04-2016, 07:52 AM
What about the people who could only make 5 games with less than 90 points surely they deserve a ticket before handing an st holder another ticket?
I'm not sure, in my opinion, that 5 games could be classed as a regular walkup given that we have had 23 home games already, with 2 more still to come.
I'm not sure, in my opinion, that 5 games could be classed as a regular walkup given that we have had 23 home games already, with 2 more still to come.
Not one of you except LibbyHibby have given a valid reason as to why st holders have become ever more self-entiltled to 2 tickets. I'm beginning to think st holders are I'm All Right Jacks.
Dunno if this has already been discussed on this thread but can anyone remember how tickets were allocated for the 2012 and 2013 finals? Presumably this one will be similar?
Went to both but wasn't responsible for organising the tickets and had a season ticket back then anyway so didn't have to worry about whether I was gonna get a ticket or not. Since moved to England and also spend about 8-9 months of the year overseas for work so have only been to a couple of games in the last couple of seasons and only got 5 loyalty points. Realise this leaves me a lot closer to the end of the queue than I was last time round and have no problem with that. Hopefully should still manage to get one!
Dunno if this has already been discussed on this thread but can anyone remember how tickets were allocated for the 2012 and 2013 finals? Presumably this one will be similar?
Went to both but wasn't responsible for organising the tickets and had a season ticket back then anyway so didn't have to worry about whether I was gonna get a ticket or not. Since moved to England and also spend about 8-9 months of the year overseas for work so have only been to a couple of games in the last couple of seasons and only got 5 loyalty points. Realise this leaves me a lot closer to the end of the queue than I was last time round and have no problem with that. Hopefully should still manage to get one!
You are exactly an example of a Hi bee who should get a ticket afore an St's wife/gf/mate etc who never go to any games or ever will apart from the big one.
hibsmad
22-04-2016, 08:23 AM
You keep ignoring the fact that if people are regular walk ups the loyalty points system will pick them up. 9 home games = 90 points and that will probably be enough for a trip to Hampden.
Okay, but what if someone has gone to five games? Maybe it's all they could make, or maybe it's all they could afford. Does someone who has gone to five home games deserve to miss out at the expense of someone who hasn't gone all season but is in the privileged position of knowing a season ticket holder?
hibsforeurope
22-04-2016, 08:25 AM
Not one of you except LibbyHibby have given a valid reason as to why st holders have become ever more self-entiltled to 2 tickets. I'm beginning to think st holders are I'm All Right Jacks.
I am not a season ticket holder this season but have signed up for next season for the chance of watching top flight football again.
For the people who forked out around £400 at the start of the season knowing that we were in the championship, they deserve some kind off additional perk for their upfront commitment. Commitment that went a long way to assembling a decent squad.
In the past perks have been money off tops at the club shop, but given we don't control the shop their isn't this option currently. If the additional ticket allows the season ticket holder to enjoy the cup final experience a little more by sitting next to a mate, who is a walk up or a family member (in most cases these additional tickets will be given to people who attend games throughout the season) I don't see a problem.
At the end of the day everyone who has been to games fairly regularly this season will get a ticket one way or another.
Okay, but what if someone has gone to five games? Maybe it's all they could make, or maybe it's all they could afford. Does someone who has gone to five home games deserve to miss out at the expense of someone who hasn't gone all season but is in the privileged position of knowing a season ticket holder?
In a Nutshell! Nailed it!
I personally know st holders who will give their second ticket to wife/gif/mate who will never enter Easter Road.
I am not a season ticket holder this season but have signed up for next season for the chance of watching top flight football again.
For the people who forked out around £400 at the start of the season knowing that we were in the championship, they deserve some kind off additional perk for their upfront commitment. Commitment that went a long way to assembling a decent squad.
In the past perks have been money off tops at the club shop, but given we don't control the shop their isn't this option currently. If the additional ticket allows the season ticket holder to enjoy the cup final experience a little more by sitting next to a mate, who is a walk up or a family member (in most cases these additional tickets will be given to people who attend games throughout the season) I don't see a problem.
At the end of the day everyone who has been to games fairly regularly this season will get a ticket one way or another.
They deserve one ticket!
Why on earth should they be given another one so they can be seated next to their mate/wife/gf at the expense of a fan who maybe can only attend 5-10 games a season?
St's should be happy with a guarenteed seat for themselves without worrying who sit's beside them!
Golden Bear
22-04-2016, 08:33 AM
Oh for god's sake it's a tough world and we're never ever all going to be equal. Season ticket holders get priority then it should simply be a case of a first come first served basis.
Oh for god's sake it's a tough world and we're never ever all going to be equal. Season ticket holders get priority then it should simply be a case of first come first served basis.
St holders will deservedly be given priority and should be happy with one ticket without worrying who sits beside them!
hibsforeurope
22-04-2016, 08:39 AM
They deserve one ticket!
Why on earth should they be given another one so they can be seated next to their mate/wife/gf at the expense of a fan who maybe can only attend 5-10 games a season?
St's should be happy with a guarenteed seat for themselves without worrying who sit's beside them!
It's a way of rewarding their commitment to purchasing a season ticket up front knowing we were playing lower league football. The club need to do something to make season tickets as attractive as possible to allow them to budget for the whole season.
even if every ST get s 2 that will still leave excess of 5000 for the walk ups, far more than the regular walk up attendance at each game this season.
marinello59
22-04-2016, 08:39 AM
St holders will deservedly be given priority and should be happy with one ticket without worrying who sits beside them!
Well if you were running the club that is exactly what would happen. :greengrin
The club need to sell more season tickets though. If, and it's still an if, the club decide that ST holders from this year who renew will be entitled to two tickets then surely you would welcome that.We all want to see the best team possible on the park. Don't we?
marinello59
22-04-2016, 08:41 AM
Oh for god's sake it's a tough world and we're never ever all going to be equal. Season ticket holders get priority then it should simply be a case of a first come first served basis.
If I don't get the system that suits my need exactly I'm going to post on here every hour on the hour about how unfair it all is. :greengrin
Well if you were running the club that is exactly what would happen. :greengrin
The club need to sell more season tickets though. If, and it's still an if, the club decide that ST holders from this year who renew will be entitled to two tickets then surely you would welcome that.We all want to see the best team possible on the park. Don't we?
Of course we all want to see the best players retained and the squad added to next season.
I've stated my case as to st holders should be happy with one ticket without being able to give another one to whoever they choose.
St holders are obviously delighted they will be able to choose another person to attend with etc.
Its a no-win argument and I hope the club do what's best!
I hope someone like yourself will remember me and get in touch if they have a spare as I am desperate to attend as I may or may not have enough points to obtain one.
Nelly070
22-04-2016, 08:52 AM
Dunno if this has already been discussed on this thread but can anyone remember how tickets were allocated for the 2012 and 2013 finals? Presumably this one will be similar?
Went to both but wasn't responsible for organising the tickets and had a season ticket back then anyway so didn't have to worry about whether I was gonna get a ticket or not. Since moved to England and also spend about 8-9 months of the year overseas for work so have only been to a couple of games in the last couple of seasons and only got 5 loyalty points. Realise this leaves me a lot closer to the end of the queue than I was last time round and have no problem with that. Hopefully should still manage to get one!
Yes, it was 1 ticket for 'current season' and a 2nd ticket if you had renewed for following season.
They also gave the option of 1 final ticket for anyone buying a season ticket for the following season.
1875STEVE
22-04-2016, 08:54 AM
That's a very good point, there surely can't be that many regular walk ups who just buy from pods rather than the ticket office, loyalty points would therefore reflect their regular attendance.
Well I know of 4.
Doesn't affect me as ive over 200 points.
But 4 or 5 times this season i've been struggling to make it after work, and the guys I go with work in the same place, we have just bought from pod.
Luckily they all should have enough points as we realised what was happening early, and bought print at home, and you allocate to get the points.
Have you seen the queues at the ticket office???
IMO the club should install the system in all the pods aswell, so you can get your points there, it would also, surely, take some of the pressure and queues off the ticket office on match days.
Godsahibby
22-04-2016, 08:58 AM
Is the loyalty scheme still running? It was introduced for this very reason. Over x ammount of points first, then over Y then Z. Fairest and easiest way, stops season ticket holders from grumbling because they will more than likely be part of the first group then others who have supported the club in different ways will be part of the next groups.
Moulin Yarns
22-04-2016, 09:01 AM
You keep ignoring the fact that if people are regular walk ups the loyalty points system will pick them up. 9 home games = 90 points and that will probably be enough for a trip to Hampden.
Sorry Marinello, but I must be missing something here. I would class a walk up as someone that goes along and gets a ticket on the day from the pods. How do they get loyalty points? I've not been to many games this season and will just be praying someone can get me a ticket, but the games I have gone to I have always bought online before travelling so got points, but if I had decided on the day to go then I would not have got points.
That's my understanding anyway, I'm happy to be wrong if that's not the case.
Geo_1875
22-04-2016, 09:04 AM
This thread is a complete hoot. Hibs should just ask the SFA for 1 ticket each for all ST holders (current season and next). **** anybody else who wouldn't commit £400 at the beginning of the season. And I'll give my spare tickets to whoever I want.
marinello59
22-04-2016, 09:04 AM
Of course we all want to see the best players retained and the squad added to next season.
I've stated my case as to st holders should be happy with one ticket without being able to give another one to whoever they choose.
St holders are obviously delighted they will be able to choose another person to attend with etc.
Its a no-win argument and I hope the club do what's best!
I hope someone like yourself will remember me and get in touch if they have a spare as I am desperate to attend as I may or may not have enough points to obtain one.
Well the cup final offers a great chance to the club to boost ST numbers, they have to grasp it given the low crowds we have had this season. You might not like it but that's what the club really has to do.
I don't understand the people like yourself comment. I've already said that no matter what the club decides I won't be taking any extra tickets. However as has already been said if you have been a regular attender then you will have enough points. Although I thought you said earlier you had a season ticket.
Since90+2
22-04-2016, 09:08 AM
Anyone got an idea when the club will announce something official?
marinello59
22-04-2016, 09:10 AM
Sorry Marinello, but I must be missing something here. I would class a walk up as someone that goes along and gets a ticket on the day from the pods. How do they get loyalty points? I've not been to many games this season and will just be praying someone can get me a ticket, but the games I have gone to I have always bought online before travelling so got points, but if I had decided on the day to go then I would not have got points.
That's my understanding anyway, I'm happy to be wrong if that's not the case.
No matter what the scheme is then proof of attendance is required. We all knew that meant buying in advance from the ticket office. With the print at home option the club have made it as easy as they could to purchase tickets.
I've missed out on points for several away games this season because I have paid at the gate. That was my choice, I knew the deal, I can't complain about it now.
HibbyAl
22-04-2016, 09:11 AM
Well the cup final offers a great chance to the club to boost ST numbers, they have to grasp it given the low crowds we have had this season. You might not like it but that's what the club really has to do.
I don't understand the people like yourself comment. I've already said that no matter what the club decides I won't be taking any extra tickets. However as has already been said if you have been a regular attender then you will have enough points. Although I thought you said earlier you had a season ticket.
Spot on, it was used in previous years as a marketing strategy to sell more season tickets. Will be surprised if they don't do the same again. Hibs is a business at the end of the day and if they have an opportunity to boost ST sales for next season they would be mad not to use it.
They will do what they did for the league cup final, as someone else said 360+ points 2 tickets in the 1st phase, then the rest to anyone on the database as a general sale, remember we don't have lots of time to organise multiple days of sales, we have a lot of games coming up, play offs etc.
Jonnyboy
22-04-2016, 09:17 AM
I admire your optimism that all walk ups with points will get one.
I've personally known St holders at past finals to give their spare ticket to their wives/Girlfriends/Mates who never pay to get into games.
Perhaps you should ask those ST holders why they gave their tickets to those others rather than to a Hibs supporter who attends games? Like others I feel pretty confident that the vast majority of 'second' tickets will be given to Hibs supporter friends.
Well the cup final offers a great chance to the club to boost ST numbers, they have to grasp it given the low crowds we have had this season. You might not like it but that's what the club really has to do.
I don't understand the people like yourself comment. I've already said that no matter what the club decides I won't be taking any extra tickets. However as has already been said if you have been a regular attender then you will have enough points. Although I thought you said earlier you had a season ticket.
I have had umpteen season tickets over many a year marinello. Unfortunately due to worsening health problems over the last couple of years I have been unable to attend as many as I would normally have but that's life.
marinello59
22-04-2016, 09:21 AM
I have had umpteen season tickets over many a year marinello. Unfortunately due to worsening health problems over the last couple of years I have been unable to attend as many as I would normally have but that's life.
Sorry to hear that.
Hopefully you are sorted for the final and it's worthwhile going along. :flag:
Perhaps you should ask those ST holders why they gave their tickets to those others rather than to a Hibs supporter who attends games? Like others I feel pretty confident that the vast majority of 'second' tickets will be given to Hibs supporter friends.
Good point.
One of them just thought they would take the wife for the day out whereby a Hi bee who attends some matches when they can was deprived of a final ticket.
There was no changing his mind.
Sorry to hear that.
Hopefully you are sorted for the final and it's worthwhile going along. :flag:
Cheers marinello!
I've never forgotten attending the three games against them in 1979 when we were cheated by ref think it was roaster Valentine or one of those biased refs then who refused Hibs a last minute penalty in the first game when Colin Cambell was brought down. I would love to see us get revenge.
trev the hat
22-04-2016, 09:31 AM
If you have a season ticket for this season you deserve a ticket for the final.
If you buy a season ticket for next season you deserve a ticket for the final.
If you fall into both camps you deserve the option to get 2 tickets for the final.
The rest should then be allocated on the loyalty points system.
Then general sale if any left.
It really should be that simple.
I'd be surprised if this is far from the mark
mcfly
22-04-2016, 10:56 AM
I can't believe the amount of moaning on here about season tickets holders who have renewed for next season still not knowing what league they are in getting 2 tickets.
Get over it they pay their money up front whether they can go or not.
Games are changed for tv, rescheduled for internationals etc.
A walk up fan pleases himself when he goes - where were the walk ups on wed night??.
if a season ticket holder wand to take his wife/child etc to the game then that's their prerogative.
HibbyScott
22-04-2016, 11:12 AM
Dunno if this has already been discussed on this thread but can anyone remember how tickets were allocated for the 2012 and 2013 finals? Presumably this one will be similar?
Went to both but wasn't responsible for organising the tickets and had a season ticket back then anyway so didn't have to worry about whether I was gonna get a ticket or not. Since moved to England and also spend about 8-9 months of the year overseas for work so have only been to a couple of games in the last couple of seasons and only got 5 loyalty points. Realise this leaves me a lot closer to the end of the queue than I was last time round and have no problem with that. Hopefully should still manage to get one!
I'm in the same boat as you! Had a ST from 98-99 until I moved away to Norfolk for work in 2012. Fingers crossed that we both manage to get our hands on one!
hibsmad
22-04-2016, 11:20 AM
Perhaps you should ask those ST holders why they gave their tickets to those others rather than to a Hibs supporter who attends games? Like others I feel pretty confident that the vast majority of 'second' tickets will be given to Hibs supporter friends.
I agree that the vast majority will end up where they should. However for the final against them, I really struggled to get a ticket and was very fortunate to end up with one at face value. I never had a season ticket that year but did have one the previous fifteen seasons (and have one again now).
Anyway, that game I sat next to a couple (I'd say in their 50's) and I kid you not, the man had to explain to her what half time was. Since that day I have been of the belief that a loyalty points system had to be put in place with one ticket per person. I knew Hibs fans who had attended games that season and who hadn't managed to get a ticket for the final.
Lancs Harp
22-04-2016, 11:20 AM
Personally I don't think offering two cup final tickets to those who have renewed (or are going to renew) will have a great effect on next years season ticket numbers. £380 is a steep price to secure a cup final ticket especially when our allocation is going to be over 20,000 anybody on the database who wants one is going to get one.
Super_JMcGinn
22-04-2016, 11:21 AM
I can't believe the amount of moaning on here about season tickets holders who have renewed for next season still not knowing what league they are in getting 2 tickets.
Get over it they pay their money up front whether they can go or not.
Games are changed for tv, rescheduled for internationals etc.
A walk up fan pleases himself when he goes - where were the walk ups on wed night??.
if a season ticket holder wand to take his wife/child etc to the game then that's their prerogative.
I have renewed again and payments start coming off on or around the 2nd of May, I thought briefly about not for the simple fact my kids and nephew have missed so many games with them not being on a Sat, I had 2 spare seats on Wed night we couldn't even give the tickets away, for about the 6th time this season.
I think if you're putting your money upfront next season irrespective, and don't forget most will have done it before we even got to the final, we are deserving of 2 briefs :agree:
CallumLaidlaw
22-04-2016, 11:21 AM
Personally I don't think offering two cup final tickets to those who have renewed (or are going to renew) will have a great effect on next years season ticket numbers. £380 is a steep price to secure a cup final ticket especially when our allocation is going to be over 20,000 anybody on the database who wants one is going to get one.
It DEFINITELY had an impact in 2012 & 2013.
Lancs Harp
22-04-2016, 11:24 AM
Actually winning the cup and getting promoted would have much larger impact.
GordonHFC
22-04-2016, 11:34 AM
It DEFINITELY had an impact in 2012 & 2013.
Indeed it did Callum but this year we have the added problem that we don't know what league we will be playing in next season.
CapitalGreen
22-04-2016, 11:36 AM
Indeed it did Callum but this year we have the added problem that we don't know what league we will be playing in next season.
It's only a problem if you care about the league more than you care about watching Hibs.
GordonHFC
22-04-2016, 11:41 AM
It's only a problem if you care about the league more than you care about watching Hibs.
Unfortunately CG some people do have that problem. I don't understand it but I have been going for 45 years and Hibs is in my blood and even a transfusion couldn't remove them.
Hibs Class
22-04-2016, 11:46 AM
Anyone got an idea when the club will announce something official?
I think I read there would be an announcement next week.
Beefster
22-04-2016, 11:50 AM
In a Nutshell! Nailed it!
I personally know st holders who will give their second ticket to wife/gif/mate who will never enter Easter Road.
Without knowing the circumstances, you've no right to pontificate on or judge a ST holder who gives a cup final ticket to anyone.
Maybe they give it to a partner, who loves to see the Hibs, but works every Saturday or has to watch their kids or take them places.
Maybe they give it to their mate, who loves to see the Hibs, but has been ill/skint/away.
Maybe they give it to an parent who supported Hibs home and away for decades but is now too frail to go every home game but will make a special effort to see if we can win the Holy Grail.
Perhaps you should ask those ST holders why they gave their tickets to those others rather than to a Hibs supporter who attends games? Like others I feel pretty confident that the vast majority of 'second' tickets will be given to Hibs supporter friends.
Sorry JB, I'm taking my old Auntie Agnes. She doesn't mind missing the bingo and a natter with her pals for a cup final and a pie. If it wasn't for the bingo three times a week, she might go to some semi-finals too though so she's not a gloryhunter or anything.
greenginger
22-04-2016, 11:56 AM
Four of us , all season ticket holders want to book on line and get seats together.
Can somebody explain the method of forming a group to make an online purchase.
I'm logged on to the Hibs ticketing page but I can't see a link to add other ref. numbers and form a group.
Thanks.
CallumLaidlaw
22-04-2016, 11:59 AM
Four of us , all season ticket holders want to book on line and get seats together.
Can somebody explain the method of forming a group to make an online purchase.
I'm logged on to the Hibs ticketing page but I can't see a link to add other ref. numbers and form a group.
Thanks.
When you log in, click on your name and client ref at the very top of the page. Then under manage your account, go to my network. Here you can add people using their client ref number. Then when tickets come on sale, you can select 4, then you can "reassign" a ticket to each of the 4 so that they go through.
https://www.eticketing.co.uk/hibernianfc/myaccount/mynetwork.aspx#ctl00_body_linkManageFriendsModule
If this link doesn't work, click your name top right of the screen and on the right hand side go to my network and you will be bale to do it from there
greenginger
22-04-2016, 12:17 PM
https://www.eticketing.co.uk/hibernianfc/myaccount/mynetwork.aspx#ctl00_body_linkManageFriendsModule
If this link doesn't work, click your name top right of the screen and on the right hand side go to my network and you will be bale to do it from there
Thanks, that's us sorted :thumbsup:
greenginger
22-04-2016, 12:19 PM
When you log in, click on your name and client ref at the very top of the page. Then under manage your account, go to my network. Here you can add people using their client ref number. Then when tickets come on sale, you can select 4, then you can "reassign" a ticket to each of the 4 so that they go through.
Thanks, I'll be a techy one day ! :greengrin
Pretty Boy
22-04-2016, 12:31 PM
That's a very good point, there surely can't be that many regular walk ups who just buy from pods rather than the ticket office, loyalty points would therefore reflect their regular attendance.
Our average crowd less ST holders tells us we don't have many regular walk ups full stop.
Brooster
22-04-2016, 12:32 PM
Personally I don't think offering two cup final tickets to those who have renewed (or are going to renew) will have a great effect on next years season ticket numbers. £380 is a steep price to secure a cup final ticket especially when our allocation is going to be over 20,000 anybody on the database who wants one is going to get one.
How many people are on Hibs database?
Phil MaGlass
22-04-2016, 12:36 PM
How many people are on Hibs database?
400,001
KeithTheHibby
22-04-2016, 12:43 PM
St holders will deservedly be given priority and should be happy with one ticket without worrying who sits beside them!
So if that same existing season ticket holder renews for next season would it not be fair that they are entitled to 2 tickets?
Lancs Harp
22-04-2016, 12:44 PM
Just over 20k at the time of the League cup final. Not everyone will want/require a ticket for various reasons.
GreenLake
22-04-2016, 12:49 PM
400,001
:greengrin
hibsmad
22-04-2016, 12:57 PM
Our average crowd less ST holders tells us we don't have many regular walk ups full stop.
I think its the term "regular walk ups" that is probably being over used here. In my opinion if someone has walked up just once then they deserve to go before someone who hasn't.
There are quite a few posters in here who seem to feel very strongly that ST holders should get two tickets. I can only imagine that the majority of them have not experienced being unable to buy a ST during a season that has resulted in a final appearance. I'll state again that I am a ST holder (and renewing next season) and it would make things easier for me if ST holders were given two each. However, IMHO I do not deserve an extra ticket.
Nakedmanoncrack
22-04-2016, 01:13 PM
I think its the term "regular walk ups" that is probably being over used here. In my opinion if someone has walked up just once then they deserve to go before someone who hasn't.
There are quite a few posters in here who seem to feel very strongly that ST holders should get two tickets. I can only imagine that the majority of them have not experienced being unable to buy a ST during a season that has resulted in a final appearance. I'll state again that I am a ST holder (and renewing next season) and it would make things easier for me if ST holders were given two each. However, IMHO I do not deserve an extra ticket.
ST holders can only use one ticket, so 2 or more is not rewarding the loyal ST holder in any way, only the person they choose to hand it on to. The loyalty points accrued are clearly a fairer way of ensuring those most deserving are catered for first.
Andy74
22-04-2016, 01:14 PM
St holders will deservedly be given priority and should be happy with one ticket without worrying who sits beside them!
It'll be familiar enough anyway, most home games I get the whole row to myself, if not a whole section.
easty
22-04-2016, 01:21 PM
ST holders can only use one ticket, so 2 or more is not rewarding the loyal ST holder in any way, only the person they choose to hand it on to. The loyalty points accrued are clearly a fairer way of ensuring those most deserving are catered for first.
I think the same as you. People keep saying about "rewarding ST holders", but you've got it spot on, each ST holder - whether they renew or not - is just one person, letting them buy 2 tickets is rewarding a non-ST holder, not the ST holder themselves.
I'll get a ticket anyway, so I'm not overly concerned how they do it.
So if that same existing season ticket holder renews for next season would it not be fair that they are entitled to 2 tickets?
You hoping to take the Wife?
:greengrin
SunshineOnLeith
22-04-2016, 01:48 PM
St holders will deservedly be given priority and should be happy with one ticket without worrying who sits beside them!
I find this argument a bit weird, don't most people who go to games care about who they're sitting next to? There's not many folk who just go by themselves.
I find this argument a bit weird, don't most people who go to games care about who they're sitting next to? There's not many folk who just go by themselves.
That's fine when there are plenty of seats to go around! Not when it's a cup final when demand far out-strips supply.
blackpoolhibs
22-04-2016, 01:56 PM
They deserve one ticket!
Why on earth should they be given another one so they can be seated next to their mate/wife/gf at the expense of a fan who maybe can only attend 5-10 games a season?
St's should be happy with a guarenteed seat for themselves without worrying who sit's beside them!
I agree, it was the reason i bought a season ticket even when i knew i wouldn't make every home game.
Although now its mentioned, if they are saying season ticket holders would be guaranteed 2 tickets for the big games, maybe they'd sell more? :greengrin
SunshineOnLeith
22-04-2016, 01:56 PM
That's fine when there are plenty of seats to go around! Not when it's a cup final when demand far out-strips supply.
The atmosphere at any game, even a cup final, would be pretty rubbish if nobody had a choice of who they sat next to. Going to the football is a social occasion and people sit with their friends/families etc
the pie eater
22-04-2016, 01:57 PM
How many people are on Hibs database?
As of the 4th Jan 2016 approx 20000 on the database.
So should be no issue with anyone on the database obtaining a ticket.
I expect us to obtain 22000.
The atmosphere at any game, even a cup final, would be pretty rubbish if nobody had a choice of who they sat next to. Going to the football is a social occasion and people sit with their friends/families etc
Appreciated people want to sit beside their pals and all of that, of course they do. But Cup finals are a bit different from normal match no?
It's a bit more complex as per demand and supply.
CallumLaidlaw
22-04-2016, 01:59 PM
http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/6426
As of the 4th Jan 2016 approx 20000 on the database.
So should be no issue with anyone on the database obtaining a ticket.
I expect us to obtain 22000.
Fingers crossed bud. I'm itching at the bit to get a ticket.
:flag:
BH Hibs
22-04-2016, 01:59 PM
If by giving an extra ticket for a season ticket renewal gives Hibs an extra £400 or so then the club would be mad not to offer this as an incentive. I have renewed and if I get an extra ticket I will be giving it to a mate who goes most weeks which I think most would do.
Brightside
22-04-2016, 02:01 PM
http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/6426
I would do that if they had a kids options in there.
SunshineOnLeith
22-04-2016, 02:04 PM
Appreciated people want to sit beside their pals and all of that, of course they do. But Cup finals are a bit different from normal match no?
It's a bit more complex as per demand and supply.
I've been at six cup finals and have sat with friends at every single one, as the vast majority of people do.
Scouse Hibee
22-04-2016, 02:05 PM
Everyone that regularly supports Hibs will get a ticket.
I've been at six cup finals and have sat with friends at every single one, as the vast majority of people do.
Are you saying that people who go on their own are weird?
Seems a bit harsh bud. I know plenty of Hi bees fans who for one reason or another attend on their tod.
SunshineOnLeith
22-04-2016, 02:11 PM
Are you saying that people who go on their own are weird?
Seems a bit harsh bud. I know plenty of Hi bees fans who for one reason or another attend on their tod.
Not at all.
I'm just not sure what you were actually saying, it sounded like you were suggesting everyone should just buy one ticket and not bother about who they sit with, which would be a weird way of allocating tickets.
CallumLaidlaw
22-04-2016, 02:13 PM
The atmosphere at any game, even a cup final, would be pretty rubbish if nobody had a choice of who they sat next to. Going to the football is a social occasion and people sit with their friends/families etc
I would generally agree, but I turned to hug my son after the winning penalty on Saturday, and he was busy hugging 3 strangers behind me. Well and truly bumped :boo hoo:
Not at all.
I'm just not sure what you were actually saying, it sounded like you were suggesting everyone should just buy one ticket and not bother about who they sit with, which would be a weird way of allocating tickets.
Fair do's. I totally get people want to sit with mates etc. just saying a cup final is much more difficult to accomadate due to supply and demand, that's all.
Manxhibs
22-04-2016, 02:15 PM
Do you think HSL members will be considered in the thinking? I live on the Isle of Man and so cannot get along to many games but contribute money every month into HSL. I have already booked my travel up to the game but the more I read, the more nervous I get about getting a ticket.
Hermit Crab
22-04-2016, 02:23 PM
Do you think HSL members will be considered in the thinking? I live on the Isle of Man and so cannot get along to many games but contribute money every month into HSL. I have already booked my travel up to the game but the more I read, the more nervous I get about getting a ticket.
You have a 100 points for minimal payments. You'll be in a wave for tickets but definitely not at the top.
the pie eater
22-04-2016, 02:26 PM
Do you think HSL members will be considered in the thinking? I live on the Isle of Man and so cannot get along to many games but contribute money every month into HSL. I have already booked my travel up to the game but the more I read, the more nervous I get about getting a ticket.
Personally I think a number of tickets should be put a side for Hibees like yourself and those further a field.
As a non st holder this year I am getting seriously fevered and quite ill at the thought of not getting a ticket!
Anyone else feeling this way?
Hermit Crab
22-04-2016, 02:31 PM
As a non st holder this year I am getting seriously fevered and quite ill at the thought of not getting a ticket!
Anyone else feeling this way?
:smug: No
:smug: No
Smug git
:greengrin
I think majority of people if not all those on points that want a ticket will get one
I think majority of people if not all those on points that want a ticket will get one
Aye probably away at the top back of the east.
Aye probably away at the top back of the east.
A ticket is a ticket.
A ticket is a ticket.
Definitely bud.
Hermit Crab
22-04-2016, 03:27 PM
Smug git
:greengrin
Correct :smug:
Albanian Hibs
22-04-2016, 03:30 PM
As a non st holder this year I am getting seriously fevered and quite ill at the thought of not getting a ticket!
Anyone else feeling this way?
Nope
OtleyHibs
22-04-2016, 03:44 PM
As a non st holder this year I am getting seriously fevered and quite ill at the thought of not getting a ticket!
Anyone else feeling this way?
I'm holding on to thin hopes of getting a ticket but if I don't I will make my peace with watching us win it on tv. I used to get tix through someone I knew at the club and for a variety or reasons I have only made it home for the league cup final this season giving me a grand total of 0 loyalty points so I have pretty much no chance.
Will try though as I never bothered with the 2007 LC final as I had only been at a couple of games that year and felt others deserved it more, regretted it ever since : )
HappyAsHellas
22-04-2016, 03:49 PM
I signed up for a ST after the Alloa defeat, and currently have over 220 points as a walk up. I'm hoping either one, or a combination of the two will get me at least one ticket.
HibsMax
22-04-2016, 04:00 PM
I don't have a dog in this fight but giving two tickets to a 2015 season ticket holder who has renewed is not rewarding the season ticket holder, it's rewarding someone who knows that season ticket holder*. I think that if you have a 2015 season ticket you should get one ticket. If you have a 2016 season ticket you should get a ticket unless you already qualify for a ticket through your 2015 season ticket. Your reward for your 2016 season ticket is early access to next year's Scottish Cup final which Hibs will be defending.
* - one way this could be considered a reward for the season ticket holder is if they get to take someone special with them to the game like a child, parent, spouse, best friend, etc. I don't agree that getting an extra ticket for you to give to one of your mates really qualifies as a reward though.
At the end of the day, if Hibs allocate two ticket to 2015 / 2016 season ticket holders, I won't complain because of the investment these fans are making. The above is just one man's opinion.
Peanut Shaz
22-04-2016, 04:22 PM
Nothing to stop season ticket holders buying more at the same time as Joe Bloggs
Agreed. But may not be sitting all as one group but Joe Bloggs will.
Keith_M
22-04-2016, 04:23 PM
I don't have a dog in this fight but giving two tickets to a 2015 season ticket holder who has renewed is not rewarding the season ticket holder, it's rewarding someone who knows that season ticket holder*. I think that if you have a 2015 season ticket you should get one ticket. If you have a 2016 season ticket you should get a ticket unless you already qualify for a ticket through your 2015 season ticket. Your reward for your 2016 season ticket is early access to next year's Scottish Cup final which Hibs will be defending.
* - one way this could be considered a reward for the season ticket holder is if they get to take someone special with them to the game like a child, parent, spouse, best friend, etc. I don't agree that getting an extra ticket for you to give to one of your mates really qualifies as a reward though.
At the end of the day, if Hibs allocate two ticket to 2015 / 2016 season ticket holders, I won't complain because of the investment these fans are making. The above is just one man's opinion.
That's exactly how I feel, including the last bit.
FWIW, I don't have a ST because I only get over a few times a season but I buy them for other people... so I do actually make the investment, I just don't get much for my money :wink:
Keith_M
22-04-2016, 04:31 PM
How's this for a suggestion:
Season Ticket Holders get to buy two tickets in the first round of sales, but the second ticket must be allocated to a named person from Hibs Database, and that person has to have at least one Loyalty Point.
That way the tickets will actually be rewarding the Loyalty of those supporting the Club, the ST holder is guaranteed to be sitting with a friend if he or she so wishes, no 'Daytrippers' that otherwise never attend get preference over those who actually are Loyal to the Club... and it vastly reduces the risk of ST holders' Rangers Supporting mates sitting in the Hibs End.
Whaddaya all think?
Andy74
22-04-2016, 04:34 PM
I don't have a dog in this fight but giving two tickets to a 2015 season ticket holder who has renewed is not rewarding the season ticket holder, it's rewarding someone who knows that season ticket holder*. I think that if you have a 2015 season ticket you should get one ticket. If you have a 2016 season ticket you should get a ticket unless you already qualify for a ticket through your 2015 season ticket. Your reward for your 2016 season ticket is early access to next year's Scottish Cup final which Hibs will be defending.
* - one way this could be considered a reward for the season ticket holder is if they get to take someone special with them to the game like a child, parent, spouse, best friend, etc. I don't agree that getting an extra ticket for you to give to one of your mates really qualifies as a reward though.
At the end of the day, if Hibs allocate two ticket to 2015 / 2016 season ticket holders, I won't complain because of the investment these fans are making. The above is just one man's opinion.
Well yes it is, it is rewarding the season ticket holder by allowing them to be accompanied by the supporter of their choice and to allow groups of season ticket holders and friends to watch the match together in the quickest and easiest way.
It's been a tough shift for season ticket holders the last few years and as noted a few times above the level of walk ups at most home games is pretty non existent.
With about 20,000 tickets going to be available it just seems an odd conversation to be having.
There have been games in very recent times when season ticket holders have been given a free ticket to give to another fan, the attendance barely moved upwards by much so there wasn't a queue of people looking to come along even for free.
blackpoolhibs
22-04-2016, 04:37 PM
I cant see why anyone should want two tickets, they only have one arse. We dont sell out at tynecastle with season ticket holders, should we give them two for that game?
A season ticket should in my opinion guarantee you the chance of a ticket for any away game like it always did.
In games like this where there are more tickets than season ticket holders, they will get one, job done.
The rest should then be made available for those with enough points then any left in a general sale.
Simple.
HibsMax
22-04-2016, 04:37 PM
How's this for a suggestion:
Season Ticket Holders get to buy two tickets in the first round of sales, but the second ticket must be allocated to a named person from Hibs Database, and that person has to have at least one Loyalty Point.
That way the tickets will actually be rewarding the Loyalty of those supporting the Club, the ST holder is guaranteed to be sitting with a friend if he or she so wishes, no 'Daytrippers' that otherwise never attend get preference over those who actually are Loyal to the Club... and it vastly reduces the risk of ST holders' Rangers Supporting mates sitting in the Hibs End.
Whaddaya all think?
I think it sounds fair, I just don't have much confidence in it being implemented correctly (at least not in time).
mcfly
22-04-2016, 04:38 PM
This has now reached 17 pages.....
the way it is and had been for 2012 and 2013 cup final was
1ticket current season ticket
1 additional ticket if I have renewed.
That's how it will and should be.
Season ticket holder are the lifeblood of the club and should be rewarded. If they want to take their wife/child or dog it's up to them.
If you are in the database with 1 point are you not a day tripper?
As I've said before where were the wallk up fans v Rangers? Or Falkirk or Morton? All midweek games poorly attended.
Libby Hibby
22-04-2016, 04:41 PM
I cant see why anyone should want two tickets, they only have one arse. We dont sell out at tynecastle with season ticket holders, should we give them two for that game?
A season ticket should in my opinion guarantee you the chance of a ticket for any away game like it always did.
In games like this where there are more tickets than season ticket holders, they will get one, job done.
The rest should then be made available for those with enough points then any left in a general sale.
Simple.
Ok but 1 per person with enough points and 1 per person in the general sale?
Andy74
22-04-2016, 04:44 PM
This has now reached 17 pages.....
the way it is and had been for 2012 and 2013 cup final was
1ticket current season ticket
1 additional ticket if I have renewed.
That's how it will and should be.
Season ticket holder are the lifeblood of the club and should be rewarded. If they want to take their wife/child or dog it's up to them.
If you are in the database with 1 point are you not a day tripper?
As I've said before where were the wallk up fans v Rangers? Or Falkirk or Morton? All midweek games poorly attended.
Yep, and we now have to make sure there are 12,000 free for them??!!
blackpoolhibs
22-04-2016, 04:47 PM
Ok but 1 per person with enough points and 1 per person in the general sale?
:agree::agree:
Have they actually released details yet?
I refuse to believe there is a 17 page thread about what might happen. :-)
blackpoolhibs
22-04-2016, 04:52 PM
Have they actually released details yet?
I refuse to believe there is a 17 page thread about what might happen. :-)
Its only 5.
.Sean.
22-04-2016, 04:52 PM
This has now reached 17 pages.....
the way it is and had been for 2012 and 2013 cup final was
1ticket current season ticket
1 additional ticket if I have renewed.
That's how it will and should be.
Season ticket holder are the lifeblood of the club and should be rewarded. If they want to take their wife/child or dog it's up to them.
If you are in the database with 1 point are you not a day tripper?
As I've said before where were the wallk up fans v Rangers? Or Falkirk or Morton? All midweek games poorly attended.Well said that man
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