Depression and anxiety

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

Thank you to everyone for their kind words and well wishes, I really do appreciate it. I’ve just gotten over the door and as much as it’s difficult to leave her at the hospital on her own, I think it’s helpful that I have cats to tend to as well! They know somethings not right with me and in a way that does bring a bit of comfort, I don’t feel quite so alone if that makes any sense? I know there are a lot of pet owners on here so I’m sure that’ll resonate with some. Just going to get a shower and head to my bed, thanks again everyone. Cheers and good health to you all.

Edit: I’m also acutely aware that this is a bit of a muddle of a post, I’m not thinking overly clearly at the moment so apologies if it doesn’t make a whole lot of sense.


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[Bridge hibs]

Thank you to everyone for their kind words and well wishes, I really do appreciate it. I’ve just gotten over the door and as much as it’s difficult to leave her at the hospital on her own, I think it’s helpful that I have cats to tend to as well! They know somethings not right with me and in a way that does bring a bit of comfort, I don’t feel quite so alone if that makes any sense? I know there are a lot of pet owners on here so I’m sure that’ll resonate with some. Just going to get a shower and head to my bed, thanks again everyone. Cheers and good health to you all.

Edit: I’m also acutely aware that this is a bit of a muddle of a post, I’m not thinking overly clearly at the moment so apologies if it doesn’t make a whole lot of sense.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkStick in mate and hopefully a quick recovery for your Wife. Its good to talk and share whether you think it makes sense or not, we have all done it but the important thing is you reached out and shared your emotions, way better than bottling it all up

Stay strong mate, we are all here for you 👍

[McD]

Thank you to everyone for their kind words and well wishes, I really do appreciate it. I’ve just gotten over the door and as much as it’s difficult to leave her at the hospital on her own, I think it’s helpful that I have cats to tend to as well! They know somethings not right with me and in a way that does bring a bit of comfort, I don’t feel quite so alone if that makes any sense? I know there are a lot of pet owners on here so I’m sure that’ll resonate with some. Just going to get a shower and head to my bed, thanks again everyone. Cheers and good health to you all.

Edit: I’m also acutely aware that this is a bit of a muddle of a post, I’m not thinking overly clearly at the moment so apologies if it doesn’t make a whole lot of sense.


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Please, don’t apologise mate. At the best of times, you’d have no need to apologise for sharing your feeling here, especially on this thread, and absolutely not when you’re dealing with what you’re going through.


We’re all here for you, and wishing the best for you and your wife. I and I’m sure many others have experienced similar circumstances, try to stay positive, give yourself some care as well as pouring your efforts and emotions into her care

[Edina Street]

Anyone else have these problems? My old man is from the old brigade who thinks pull yourself together is the answer. Never used to be like this and time in the army hasn't helped. However, I'm not afraid to admit things and feel no stigma in being affected by this.

Just wondering if other people here have had problems associated with these issues? I personally can get low and worry about things that many people wouldn't even give much a thought about! I'm on anti depressants but don't want to be on them forever. Has there been other things that people find useful?

Cheers

Pull yourself together would be good advice if it came with a manual on how to pull yourself together.

After Covid Lockdown I had to quickly come up with something to get myself back to work and back in operation and back to running my business. As I work with the public I need to act in a manner that the public trust me and have faith in me. But I had got myself in a rut, lost my confidence and had little time to find the solution, so as a matter of survival I quickly came up with this in order to instantly get myself back up again and present myself in front of my customers as someone that can definitely be trusted to carry out jobs. This is what I myself came up with quickly.

I think a good way of pulling yourself together is to remember, or realise, that our depression and anxiety is caused by lack of thought, to much thought, or worrying thoughts. The past does not matter, and it does not matter if you have been suffering this for 1 day, or 10 years, the moment we realise or remember that we choose what we think, believe, and how we feel, we can instantly jump up full of confidence in no time and get on with our lives and create our own destiny.

The instant you get pulled back down again by a negative thought, like people will think that my sudden new belief in myself is schizophrenia, or grandios delusion, then simply choose a new thought and go with it. It is hard to hold two thoughts at once. So it is hard to hold paranoid thoughts whilst going with friendly thoughts. Therefore even a psychosis can be broken in a second simply by changing to a better thought process. It may be difficult and forced at first, but keep it up and it will not take long at-all before you are happy and thinking fast and creating thoughts that are helpful and productive and quickly ditching thoughts that are unhelpful and destructive becomes automatic to you and done without thinking. And before you even know it you are out of anxiety and depression and extremely happy and confident.

Perhaps in a few weeks time you will encounter a situation that causes butterflies or that sinking feeling, but have no fear, remember you can jump back up in a second just by remembering that you choose what you believe, think, and how you feel, so simply and quickly think and believe something else.

Once you have practiced this and had several of the best conversations you have ever had in your life and noticed how your life has improved in no time at-all, this should be all the proof you need to know that your new belief that we can choose our thoughts, feelings and beliefs at will, is not schizophrenia. and even if it is, if it has got you out of anxiety and depression and improved your social life, who cares really if it is!

At least, this thought process worked for me when I had to suddenly get back to business and present myself as a quick thinking fearless and intelligent professional, at the same time as suffering cobwebs in the brain, which included stuck thoughts, confidence crisis, fear and anxiety.

If I remember right I quickly worked out that to believe I have courage was the first thought that initially filled me with strength in an instant. And from there I quickly worked out that now I have the courage, I can now use that to have the courage to be everything I need to be or want to be to get through my first day back. The courage to be intelligent. Professional et cetera.

Maybe it would work for others.

[CropleyWasGod]

Does anyone have any experience of, or knowledge about, the Flow headsets that I'm seeing a lot of on social media these days?

I know very little about them, let alone understand the technology, but it feels a bit like Electro-Convulsive Therapy in a new outfit.

[Jones28]

Wondering if anyone has any experience with seasonal affective disorder?

I’ve had a headache and been feeling a bit “meh” over the last couple of weeks and the only thing that’s changed is the light in the evenings, I definitely have had experience of it before but it hasn’t been a consistent thing that happens every year.

[Greenworld]

Wondering if anyone has any experience with seasonal affective disorder?

I’ve had a headache and been feeling a bit “meh” over the last couple of weeks and the only thing that’s changed is the light in the evenings, I definitely have had experience of it before but it hasn’t been a consistent thing that happens every year.I think the very poor summer coupled with the nights getting shorter can trigger the feeling down associated with anxiety and depression.


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[CropleyWasGod]

Wondering if anyone has any experience with seasonal affective disorder?

I’ve had a headache and been feeling a bit “meh” over the last couple of weeks and the only thing that’s changed is the light in the evenings, I definitely have had experience of it before but it hasn’t been a consistent thing that happens every year.

I struggle with SAD.

As said above, the poor summer hasn't helped. At a time when our bodies and minds are expecting sunshine, we haven't been getting it. That, for me, makes it a double whammy. It sets up negative feelings of "I'm not storing up enough Vitamin D for the winter.....", which can lead to more anxiety. It also gives us an excuse not to take as much outdoor exercise.

I have 2 tools which I use, normally from about October. I have a light-box, which I keep on as long as I can in the morning. I also take industrial doses of Vitamin D (Ultra 4000 is my go-to).

As ever, exercise is an important tool for keeping your D levels up.

[Greenworld]

I struggle with SAD.

As said above, the poor summer hasn't helped. At a time when our bodies and minds are expcting sunshine, we haven't been getting it. That, for me, makes it a double whammy. It sets up negative feelings of "I'm not storing up enough Vitamin D for the winter.....", which can lead to more anxiety. It also gives us an excuse not to take as much outdoor exercise.

I have 2 tools which I use, normally from about October. I have a light-box, which I keep on as long as I can in the morning. I also take industrial doses of Vitamin D (Ultra 4000 is my go-to).

As ever, exercise is an important tool for keeping your D levels up.I take vitamin D also , I found when I stopped taking them I get sluggish and tired. For me it makes a big difference.
I've increased my holidays in the winter months as well being retired helps me there mind .[emoji1]

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[Jones28]

I struggle with SAD.

As said above, the poor summer hasn't helped. At a time when our bodies and minds are expcting sunshine, we haven't been getting it. That, for me, makes it a double whammy. It sets up negative feelings of "I'm not storing up enough Vitamin D for the winter.....", which can lead to more anxiety. It also gives us an excuse not to take as much outdoor exercise.

I have 2 tools which I use, normally from about October. I have a light-box, which I keep on as long as I can in the morning. I also take industrial doses of Vitamin D (Ultra 4000 is my go-to).

As ever, exercise is an important tool for keeping your D levels up.

Thanks CWG, I stopped taking vit D during the "summer" but I'm back on it now.

Exercising regularly too, I'm hopeful that its just my body transitioning and the headache/tension I'm feeling will fade away. Sleep has been a bit disturbed the last few nights too, which is probably not helpful. I've been making a conscious effort to set a routine for bedtime, reading and no screens etc but it's become quite disturbed and I find when I stop reading my mind is racing until I fall asleep, then the dreams are bizarre. Had a better sleep last night though which was good.

Any recommendations on a lightbox? I was looking at a Light Alarm Clock, some are hellishly expensive.

[Jones28]

I think the very poor summer coupled with the nights getting shorter can trigger the feeling down associated with anxiety and depression.


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:agree: very good point, and looking at the forecast nothing is getting any better.

[CropleyWasGod]

Thanks CWG, I stopped taking vit D during the "summer" but I'm back on it now.

Exercising regularly too, I'm hopeful that its just my body transitioning and the headache/tension I'm feeling will fade away. Sleep has been a bit disturbed the last few nights too, which is probably not helpful. I've been making a conscious effort to set a routine for bedtime, reading and no screens etc but it's become quite disturbed and I find when I stop reading my mind is racing until I fall asleep, then the dreams are bizarre. Had a better sleep last night though which was good.

Any recommendations on a lightbox? I was looking at a Light Alarm Clock, some are hellishly expensive.

I use this one:-

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/186461393386

Most of my work is from home, so I can have it on all morning. However, even just sitting with it on over breakfast will give you a boost.

[Jones28]

I use this one:-

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/186461393386

Most of my work is from home, so I can have it on all morning. However, even just sitting with it on over breakfast will give you a boost.

Appreciated :aok:

I have cold showers most days, if not multiple times a day and always find they give me a real boost - especially if I've had a ****ty day and have one in the evenings.

[CropleyWasGod]

Appreciated :aok:

I have cold showers most days, if not multiple times a day and always find they give me a real boost - especially if I've had a ****ty day and have one in the evenings.

That's one of my things too :greengrin, although I can only face it once a day for a short burst. Does wonders for the vagus nerve, allegedly.

[patch1875]

I work outside think the lack of sunshine has caused my usual mood drop time of year to come early this year.

I also take vit D but not usually during the summer but think
I will start taking it now.

[Liam89]

I’m the same, been struggling earlier than usual this year with health anxiety flare ups. Once I’ve stopped worrying about one thing it hops to another seemingly uncontrollably. Anyone else deal with HA?

[Pagan Hibernia]

So it's September. A lovely time of year in many ways but also a difficult time for people as the equinox approaches and the dark nights draw in. After a disappointing summer the prospect of a long winter ahead is not very appealing.

How's everyone doing?

I find its important to get out and soak up as much natural light as is humanly possible this time of year.

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

So tonight has been the first time since February I’ve needed to get out the SAD lamp and sit for an hour with it on, anyone else use one during the darker months? Find it does help me to a certain extent but I still need to get plenty natural light during the day. Hope everyone is doing well, cheers


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[Alfiembra]

I’m the same, been struggling earlier than usual this year with health anxiety flare ups. Once I’ve stopped worrying about one thing it hops to another seemingly uncontrollably. Anyone else deal with HA?

Health anxiety isn’t a term I’d heard of before but now I think about it it does accurately describe a lot of the thoughts and emotions I go through most days with my own health. Particularly when I’m on my own my thoughts inevitably wander and I recount conversations with doctors and consultants over and over again and what the future might hold for me health wise, once it’s in my head very difficult to think of something more pleasant. I did read a post on here about a recommendation for a book on how to deal with unwanted thoughts, forgive me if I got the title wrong, which I might try to find again. But I’ve always find trying to stay busy and keeping myself occupied helps.

[Jones28]

So tonight has been the first time since February I’ve needed to get out the SAD lamp and sit for an hour with it on, anyone else use one during the darker months? Find it does help me to a certain extent but I still need to get plenty natural light during the day. Hope everyone is doing well, cheers


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I’ve been struggling a bit since the clocks changed, low mood and a bit of a continuous headache. Got a gym in the garage which is great but doesn’t help with getting daylight and I’m out the house a lot at the moment so not getting out for runs as much as normal.

It’s easing off now but I think I’ll invest in one for next “gloomy season”.

Hope it eases off for you.

[Pedantic_Hibee]

I’m double dunting vitamin D tablets each morning.

[CropleyWasGod]

I haven't felt the need for my lamp this year yet, partly as it's been quite sunny this month.

Still taking industrial-strength Vitamin D, though.

I think I'm going to get back into meditation, as it's helped in the past with "stuff".

[Pedantic_Hibee]

I haven't felt the need for my lamp this year yet, partly as it's been quite sunny this month.

Still taking industrial-strength Vitamin D, though.

I think I'm going to get back into meditation, as it's helped in the past with "stuff".

I’ve tried meditation so many times and can’t stick with it. Try as I may, my mind wanders off constantly, sometimes literally within three seconds of me trying to focus on my breathing. I can visualise in my head me pulling myself back from a train of thought and breathing again and within seconds there I am, bounding aimlessly towards the next random thought.

[CropleyWasGod]

I’ve tried meditation so many times and can’t stick with it. Try as I may, my mind wanders off constantly, sometimes literally within three seconds of me trying to focus on my breathing. I can visualise in my head me pulling myself back from a train of thought and breathing again and within seconds there I am, bounding aimlessly towards the next random thought.

It's a difficult thing to do, that's for sure.

That said, 3 seconds is a good start. My suggestion would be..... start off counting to 3, whilst breathing deeply. When your mind wanders, bring it back and start at 1 again. Don't beat yourself up for not staying any longer, just accept that you're doing it

In time, you'll increase that to 4, and then 5, etc etc. Your subconscious will start to think "I like these quiet bits. Let's do more".

And you don't have to be on a yoga mat or anything like that. I like doing it when I'm stuck in traffic, or on the bus.

As an alternative, there are plenty guided meditations out there that might work better for you.

[CropleyWasGod]

As of 921 this morning, the light is returning.

Good news for anyone out there with SAD, as well as all Hibby Hippies.

Happy Solstice :flag:

[patch1875]

As of 921 this morning, the light is returning.

Good news for anyone out there with SAD, as well as all Hibby Hippies.

Happy Solstice :flag:

Thank goodness certainly been a rough winter for me keeping my mood in check in the dark hours.

[lapsedhibee]

As of 921 this morning, the light is returning.


Good news. Could you arrange for the wind to drop a bit too?

[CropleyWasGod]

Good news. Could you arrange for the wind to drop a bit too?

:greengrin

As a photo I saw earlier said..... get naked, drink mead and party like a pagan. Cos queuing at Argos is just bollocks.

[Just Alf]

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[Lendo]

https://youtu.be/f33LafLQp8Y?si=k4eqemdJtvR_Jr3e

Just watched this excellent interview with Dimitar Berbatov about men’s mental health. Worth a watch if only for the fact that he comes across as an incredibly smart guy.

Shes also got a Hibs video on her channel that’s worth a watch.

[judas]

Have to say, I’m struggling severely with low mood (depression) and anxiety at the moment it’s been getting steadily worse for year's. Broke down today.

Antidepressant dose doubled and not working. Been exercising but also not cutting it.

I’m actually scared.

[hibsbollah]

Have to say, I’m struggling severely with low mood (depression) and anxiety at the moment it’s been getting steadily worse for year's. Broke down today.

Antidepressant dose doubled and not working. Been exercising but also not cutting it.

I’m actually scared.

People will care more than you expect. You are valued and valuable to others. Reach out contact friends and family and ask for help. Samaritans and NHS direct. Get an appointment with your GP asap. I’m not in any sense a professional and cant offer much tangible help but please don’t suffer in silence.

[Bridge hibs]

Have to say, I’m struggling severely with low mood (depression) and anxiety at the moment it’s been getting steadily worse for year's. Broke down today.

Antidepressant dose doubled and not working. Been exercising but also not cutting it.

I’m actually scared.Judas as hibsbollah has mentioned in his post you need to seek more help to get you through this mate, can I recommend this place https://www.edinburghthrive.com/ they are based either at Craigmillar medical centre or on Leith Walk. Early last year I was at my lowest to the point I did not want to be here anymore and to the point I was planning to put myself and others out of their suffering.

All you do initially is drop in, no appointment needed and they will have a quick chat with you and will assign you to the correct person who will support your needs. The initial drop in is at the wee church place at the back off hibs main stand.

I felt it really difficult to speak to people, not because they were strange to me but mostly I think was where do I start. Everything going through my mind was like a bullet train and to me nothing made sense, everything was going 100mph and nothing was clear.

I was assigned to a CPN who I would sit with for an hour at a time, we would talk openly and we would “strategise” and try target the cause/triggers and we would gradually work out strategies and coping mechanisms. I can honestly say my fear of talking soon became more relaxed as I unravelled all or most of my issues and I must say getting that professional help absolutely helped me on my journey.

Today I havent felt better mentally, no anxiety and no depression, I can think much straighter and if I do have a “down day” I just strategise, try and identify the reason and then get on with my day. My GP speaks to me regularly via telephone call and we discuss my medication levels, 100mg Sertraline and they appear to be keeping me on the straight and narrow.

Please dont suffer in silence mate and please seek professional help, its out there and you just need to do the hardest thing and connect with them, the first step is the hardest but you can do it.

This thread is fantastic too mate and there are a lot of helpful suggestions from people who are all going through or have been on that dark path, we are all here to support you if you ever need it and if you need to talk then please send me a message.

Stick in and stay strong bud, we are all here for you 💚

[Itsnoteasy]

Have to say, I’m struggling severely with low mood (depression) and anxiety at the moment it’s been getting steadily worse for year's. Broke down today.

Antidepressant dose doubled and not working. Been exercising but also not cutting it.

I’m actually scared.

No expert but even talking on here is a start.

[judas]

I can’t thank you guys enough. Heart warming to know I am not alone.

I am seeing our Mental Health Nurse tomorrow and will most likely approach iThrive as our GP also recommends them as a resource.

I have also ordered Overcoming Unwanted Intrusive Thoughts by Sally M Winston, because I am having a lot of them just now.

Distracting myself with work has been useful. Crazy that work could be so helpful in that way, but it has been.

[Bridge hibs]

I can’t thank you guys enough. Heart warming to know I am not alone.

I am seeing our Mental Health Nurse tomorrow and will most likely approach iThrive as our GP also recommends them as a resource.

I have also ordered Overcoming Unwanted Intrusive Thoughts by Sally M Winston, because I am having a lot of them just now.

Distracting myself with work has been useful. Crazy that work could be so helpful in that way, but it has been.Good stuff mate and its great that you are seeing your MHN tomorrow, first steps are difficult mate but you have recognised you need professional support and now hopefully you can sit and plan coping strategies and take those important steps to recovery.

Good luck mate and remember we are all here for you.

[hibsbollah]

I can’t thank you guys enough. Heart warming to know I am not alone.

I am seeing our Mental Health Nurse tomorrow and will most likely approach iThrive as our GP also recommends them as a resource.

I have also ordered Overcoming Unwanted Intrusive Thoughts by Sally M Winston, because I am having a lot of them just now.

Distracting myself with work has been useful. Crazy that work could be so helpful in that way, but it has been.

Thats brilliant news and well done on taking the initiative, it can be tough to do.
I totally relate to distraction as a strategy. I did it myself when i was going through some difficult times, whether you’re using work or hobbies to distract you from negativity; it’s all totally valid, whatever works for you, works so go with it and remember to be kind to yourself:aok:

[Itsnoteasy]

I can’t thank you guys enough. Heart warming to know I am not alone.

I am seeing our Mental Health Nurse tomorrow and will most likely approach iThrive as our GP also recommends them as a resource.

I have also ordered Overcoming Unwanted Intrusive Thoughts by Sally M Winston, because I am having a lot of them just now.

Distracting myself with work has been useful. Crazy that work could be so helpful in that way, but it has been.

Hope things went well for you at your meeting.

[Liam89]

Hope you're getting along ok Judas and good on you for taking the initiative even of posting here when you're feeling so low.

I'm going through a bit of a rough patch with anxiety manifesting in health symptoms. I've had muscle twitches on off for about 6 months exacerbated by stress, particularly in calves and feet. I've accepted this is just a symptom of stress as it's most noticeable when triggered by something so not worried about anything sinister but it's starting to wear me down.

In some ways I'd rather be dealing with standard physical manifestations of anxiety rather than weird bodily symptoms that I can't determine if they're real or psychosomatic like pains or aches or weird feelings. Anxiety / stress is a bitch isn't it!

Anyone else dealt with something like this?

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

Hope you're getting along ok Judas and good on you for taking the initiative even of posting here when you're feeling so low.

I'm going through a bit of a rough patch with anxiety manifesting in health symptoms. I've had muscle twitches on off for about 6 months exacerbated by stress, particularly in calves and feet. I've accepted this is just a symptom of stress as it's most noticeable when triggered by something so not worried about anything sinister but it's starting to wear me down.

In some ways I'd rather be dealing with standard physical manifestations of anxiety rather than weird bodily symptoms that I can't determine if they're real or psychosomatic like pains or aches or weird feelings. Anxiety / stress is a bitch isn't it!

Anyone else dealt with something like this?

I get this too mate I completely understand what you’re going through. It’s gotten to the point where I have ended up with calluses on the end of my toes from curling them inside my shoes repeatedly, usually when something is worrying me. My home life has been a bit of a nightmare recently with my mrs going through testing for cancer and having to pick up the slack with housework etc. as all the scans along with the illness has left her pretty much bed bound for the past few weeks, which has been compounding my stress levels. I’m not complaining, I understand that she’s not well and I’ll have to do what I can to help but it’s a lot to take on s well as a busy work schedule


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[judas]

I get this too mate I completely understand what you’re going through. It’s gotten to the point where I have ended up with calluses on the end of my toes from curling them inside my shoes repeatedly, usually when something is worrying me. My home life has been a bit of a nightmare recently with my mrs going through testing for cancer and having to pick up the slack with housework etc. as all the scans along with the illness has left her pretty much bed bound for the past few weeks, which has been compounding my stress levels. I’m not complaining, I understand that she’s not well and I’ll have to do what I can to help but it’s a lot to take on s well as a busy work schedule


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Thanks to both you and Liam for your support. I think I am winning at the moment.

Regarding your particular challenge Erin, you have a lot on your spinning plates there.

Be good to yourself, most people would struggle.

Know that there are people out there who understand.

[LustForLeith]

Hi folks

The first SoS drop in of 2025 is Monday 27 January.

Helping men tackle mental health through football.

We’re meeting at the famous five stand at 7pm and we’ll be in the Community Foundation hub.

It’s safe, confidential and free and open to all, not just Hibs fans

💚💚💚

[The_Exile]

I get this too mate I completely understand what you’re going through. It’s gotten to the point where I have ended up with calluses on the end of my toes from curling them inside my shoes repeatedly, usually when something is worrying me. My home life has been a bit of a nightmare recently with my mrs going through testing for cancer and having to pick up the slack with housework etc. as all the scans along with the illness has left her pretty much bed bound for the past few weeks, which has been compounding my stress levels. I’m not complaining, I understand that she’s not well and I’ll have to do what I can to help but it’s a lot to take on s well as a busy work schedule


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Hope you're keeping ok mate, it's a big ask keeping a house going on top of work too and it can get on top of you very quickly. I'm on my own with two teenage lads and I just focus on one task at a time, earphones in, audiobooks/podcasts, helps me focus on something other than the job at hand, so to speak, which seems to help me when I'm in the midst of the housework. Take care of yourself :aok:.

[CropleyWasGod]

Wondering if anyone here has, or knows someone who has, issues with eating disorders.

It's an aspect of mental health that doesn't get a lot of attention, for a number of reasons.

I've been doing a bit of work around it recently. I'm nowhere near an expert, but happy to have a chat (either here or in PM) with anyone affected, and maybe point them down the road I'm going down .... as well as pick brains :)

[judas]

Hi folks

The first SoS drop in of 2025 is Monday 27 January.

Helping men tackle mental health through football.

We’re meeting at the famous five stand at 7pm and we’ll be in the Community Foundation hub.

It’s safe, confidential and free and open to all, not just Hibs fans

💚💚💚

Great initiative thank you.

[CropleyWasGod]

Has anyone had any experience with the Ladz app?

https://www.ladzapp.co.uk/

[Tambo]

I hope everyone is doing well in these hard times.

I have finally decided it's time to give the wacky backy a knock on the head after 24 years of heavy use, my last puff was wednesday night and I woke up Thursday think enough is enough.

Didn't eat anything Thursday or Friday but I have managed to eat some soup today but am really struggling in how to cope without the weed, went out for a walk eailer but didn't last long as it felt I was about to pass out, I understand this wont be easy and the first few weeks will be like hell but I'm adamant to not go and buy anymore.

I'm not sure if it's a good idea to try some CBD oil or gummies, addiction is a horrible disease.

[Bridge hibs]

I hope everyone is doing well in these hard times.

I have finally decided it's time to give the wacky backy a knock on the head after 24 years of heavy use, my last puff was wednesday night and I woke up Thursday think enough is enough.

Didn't eat anything Thursday or Friday but I have managed to eat some soup today but am really struggling in how to cope without the weed, went out for a walk eailer but didn't last long as it felt I was about to pass out, I understand this wont be easy and the first few weeks will be like hell but I'm adamant to not go and buy anymore.

I'm not sure if it's a good idea to try some CBD oil or gummies, addiction is a horrible disease.Hi Tambo, have you thought about having some counselling to enable yourself to sit down with someone professional to discuss your addiction ?

Obviously you are dealing with the physical aspects of withdrawal but they could support you with coping strategies etc. Ive mentioned the counselling a few times on this thread, no appointment needed, just drop in and they will assess you before assigning you with a councillor specific to your needs.

Not sure of your locality but there are two drop in centres that I am aware off, one at Craigmillar medical centre and one at the old church building behind the hibs West stand, thats the one I attended, lovely supportive people who made me feel very relaxed.

Whatever path you choose mate I wish you the very best and hope you can kick your addiction.

[Jones28]

I hope everyone is doing well in these hard times.

I have finally decided it's time to give the wacky backy a knock on the head after 24 years of heavy use, my last puff was wednesday night and I woke up Thursday think enough is enough.

Didn't eat anything Thursday or Friday but I have managed to eat some soup today but am really struggling in how to cope without the weed, went out for a walk eailer but didn't last long as it felt I was about to pass out, I understand this wont be easy and the first few weeks will be like hell but I'm adamant to not go and buy anymore.

I'm not sure if it's a good idea to try some CBD oil or gummies, addiction is a horrible disease.

Good luck man, well done for taking steps to make changes 👍

I don’t have any practical advice but just wanted to wish you all the best.

[McD]

I hope everyone is doing well in these hard times.

I have finally decided it's time to give the wacky backy a knock on the head after 24 years of heavy use, my last puff was wednesday night and I woke up Thursday think enough is enough.

Didn't eat anything Thursday or Friday but I have managed to eat some soup today but am really struggling in how to cope without the weed, went out for a walk eailer but didn't last long as it felt I was about to pass out, I understand this wont be easy and the first few weeks will be like hell but I'm adamant to not go and buy anymore.

I'm not sure if it's a good idea to try some CBD oil or gummies, addiction is a horrible disease.


Good luck mate, all power to you

[CropleyWasGod]

I hope everyone is doing well in these hard times.

I have finally decided it's time to give the wacky backy a knock on the head after 24 years of heavy use, my last puff was wednesday night and I woke up Thursday think enough is enough.

Didn't eat anything Thursday or Friday but I have managed to eat some soup today but am really struggling in how to cope without the weed, went out for a walk eailer but didn't last long as it felt I was about to pass out, I understand this wont be easy and the first few weeks will be like hell but I'm adamant to not go and buy anymore.

I'm not sure if it's a good idea to try some CBD oil or gummies, addiction is a horrible disease.

Similar to the previous advice about counselling.....

Hypnotherapy might help in dealing with the cravings. It can help to refocus your mind on those other things that you could be doing with your time.

[Tambo]

Thanks all, I've not thought about counselling just yet as I am just trying to take It one day at a time but I do have an amazing mother who is always there for me and has come around to make me some homemade soup, I will admit i am craving still but that's only natural, I have got rid og all my paraphernalia like my grinder etc and trying to keep my mind busy with other things.

[Keith_M]

Thanks all, I've not thought about counselling just yet as I am just trying to take It one day at a time but I do have an amazing mother who is always there for me and has come around to make me some homemade soup, I will admit i am craving still but that's only natural, I have got rid og all my paraphernalia like my grinder etc and trying to keep my mind busy with other things.


Best of luck mate

:aok:

[Tambo]

Best of luck mate

:aok:

Thank you, i am on day 11 today and i will admit i am really struggling with cravings and my sleep pattern is a joke at the moment even though i am feeling like i have no energy at all. My appetite has really improved, i just don't have the energy to do any physical activity or even want to leave the house.

I really cant afford to be on the sick anymore so going to have to try and go back to work next week.

[Bridge hibs]

Thank you, i am on day 11 today and i will admit i am really struggling with cravings and my sleep pattern is a joke at the moment even though i am feeling like i have no energy at all. My appetite has really improved, i just don't have the energy to do any physical activity or even want to leave the house.

I really cant afford to be on the sick anymore so going to have to try and go back to work next week.I get the lack of energy mate, when I was at my lowest with my depression I couldnt be arsed shaving or changing clothes, I just sat in the house wearing my shorts and the thought of going out made me feel physically sick.

My Wife had to return to work as she was nursing me through my worst times and didnt leave my side. Then on the day she returned to work I had a massive anxiety attack and started pacing the house, I had to get out of this box.

Grabbed my ruck sack, stuck a 6kg kettle bell in it with a bottle of water and then headed out. I walked from Porty high school to Musselburgh harbour then back along the beach front to Portobello, up to Duddingston golf course and finally climbed to the top of Arthurs seat.

I was so ****ing emotional but I was buzzing and wanted to do it all again, I took photos of my journey and sent them to my Wife who was understandably stunned that I had actually left the house for the first time in 6 months.

I got such a buzz and lift from that and I started doing it regularly, I started talking to people en route to wherever I was walking to, the energy is there mate believe me, you just have to waken it up.

Good luck

[CropleyWasGod]

Thank you, i am on day 11 today and i will admit i am really struggling with cravings and my sleep pattern is a joke at the moment even though i am feeling like i have no energy at all. My appetite has really improved, i just don't have the energy to do any physical activity or even want to leave the house.

I really cant afford to be on the sick anymore so going to have to try and go back to work next week.

Totally empathise with you on the energy thing. That feeling of lethargy is always a sign for me that something is in the post.

Conversely, I also know that exercise is the go-to that works for me. It can be a real struggle convincing my body that my mind will feel better if I just get out for a bit.

That all said, it's baby steps for you. Your appetite is better, which is one of those baby steps. That will fuel your body to get moving. The post above this one is a cracking example of how you can take a few more steps.

[Liam89]

Thank you, i am on day 11 today and i will admit i am really struggling with cravings and my sleep pattern is a joke at the moment even though i am feeling like i have no energy at all. My appetite has really improved, i just don't have the energy to do any physical activity or even want to leave the house.

I really cant afford to be on the sick anymore so going to have to try and go back to work next week.

You've got this mate :)

[Tambo]

Cheers all, i have been saying in my head i will get back to lifting some small weights again but by the time i get up the day has almost gone and then back to the same cycle of watching tv and playing fm manager lol

I have no idea about CBD and if it would be any good for me at this stage.

Anyway day 12 today clean.

[Stairway 2 7]

Cheers all, i have been saying in my head i will get back to lifting some small weights again but by the time i get up the day has almost gone and then back to the same cycle of watching tv and playing fm manager lol

I have no idea about CBD and if it would be any good for me at this stage.

Anyway day 12 today clean.

That's impressive mate, keep going

[CropleyWasGod]

Interesting development at the Royal Ed.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cyvjy7m3vmdo

Anyone had any experience with ketamine (in a non-recreational way)?

[Bridge hibs]

Interesting development at the Royal Ed.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cyvjy7m3vmdo

Anyone had any experience with ketamine (in a non-recreational way)?

No but that sounds very interesting, my depression was bad enough but this reads like off the scale depression particularly when the only other major treatment was the brutal ECT, as always though and sadly until it becomes available on the NHS folk will not be able to afford the costs of £6000 per session meaning further and prolonged suffering.

On a similar vein I see the diabetic/weight loss drug Mounjaro is going to be provided to NHS patients in England who meet the criteria and Im sure is already available in the US at $1000 per months treatment.

Obesity is linked to mental health issues, at least it played a major part in my depression and my GP prescribed me with Mounjaro 3 weeks ago and once you are over the side affects it has been brilliant, improvement in mind and body.

[CropleyWasGod]

No but that sounds very interesting, my depression was bad enough but this reads like off the scale depression particularly when the only other major treatment was the brutal ECT, as always though and sadly until it becomes available on the NHS folk will not be able to afford the costs of £6000 per session meaning further and prolonged suffering.

On a similar vein I see the diabetic/weight loss drug Mounjaro is going to be provided to NHS patients in England who meet the criteria and Im sure is already available in the US at $1000 per months treatment.

Obesity is linked to mental health issues, at least it played a major part in my depression and my GP prescribed me with Mounjaro 3 weeks ago and once you are over the side affects it has been brilliant, improvement in mind and body.

That's interesting, and encouraging. Can I ask what side-effects you had?

[Bridge hibs]

That's interesting, and encouraging. Can I ask what side-effects you had?

Yes, very bloated feeling after eating a small amount of food, a lot of wind, hurricane levels at times, changes to bowel habits however thats to be expected , burping often and thats before eating or drinking. I can handle the farting and burping but what I suppose affected me most was I started getting heartburn daily, mostly in the mornings and particularly at night when I was lying in bed.

That was on 3mg and most of the side affects went within the start of second week. Im now on 7mg and all is good. Im on the tablet form of Semaglutide, they start you on a low dose and then increase it gradually.

[CropleyWasGod]

Yes, very bloated feeling after eating a small amount of food, a lot of wind, hurricane levels at times, changes to bowel habits however thats to be expected , burping often and thats before eating or drinking. I can handle the farting and burping but what I suppose affected me most was I started getting heartburn daily, mostly in the mornings and particularly at night when I was lying in bed.

That was on 3mg and most of the side affects went within the start of second week. Im now on 7mg and all is good. Im on the tablet form of Semagutide, they start you on a low dose and then increase it gradually.

Ta. Sounding good.

I work (as a hypnotherapist) with clients who want to lose weight without resorting to fad diets or medication. Im some cases, though (and this holds for other MH-related conditions too), the best approach is to combine different forms of treatment.

It's always good to know what else is out there, and its pros and cons.

[Bridge hibs]

Ta. Sounding good.

I work (as a hypnotherapist) with clients who want to lose weight without resorting to fad diets or medication. Im some cases, though (and this holds for other MH-related conditions too), the best approach is to combine different forms of treatment.

It's always good to know what else is out there, and its pros and cons.

Yeah Ive done all the fad diets in the past and I must admit I saw them as a kind of competition, for example I attended a Scottish Slimmers class in Musselburgh, it was a laugh and everyone supported each other whether you lost, put on or stayed the same.

Im competitive though and week in week out I was determined to beat everyones losses which I did most weeks, it was a win win for me, in fact I lost so much weight I was put forward for the annual awards to represent Musselburgh but I declined, I just enjoyed the competition.

Things eventually took a turn for the worst and mentally I couldnt get into the right frame of mind, I was so physically ill as a result of my diabetes that I knew I had to take a different approach to very much save my life.

These tablets, I see them as a chemical gastric band, theres no placebo effect to trick the mind. The tablet simply reacts to the receptors in your brain that tells you that you are hungry, to describe it a simpler way, this in turn reduces and slows down the gastric emptying effectively making you feel fuller without the need to continue stuffing your face.

Its not a magic bullet though and I still have to do my bit, I still have to watch my portion sizes as you would with any weight loss plan, also choosing healthier options, more protein and less carbs added with a sprinkle of exercise.

[Sylar]

Yeah Ive done all the fad diets in the past and I must admit I saw them as a kind of competition, for example I attended a Scottish Slimmers class in Musselburgh, it was a laugh and everyone supported each other whether you lost, put on or stayed the same.

Im competitive though and week in week out I was determined to beat everyones losses which I did most weeks, it was a win win for me, in fact I lost so much weight I was put forward for the annual awards to represent Musselburgh but I declined, I just enjoyed the competition.

Things eventually took a turn for the worst and mentally I couldnt get into the right frame of mind, I was so physically ill as a result of my diabetes that I knew I had to take a different approach to very much save my life.

These tablets, I see them as a chemical gastric band, theres no placebo effect to trick the mind. The tablet simply reacts to the receptors in your brain that tells you that you are hungry, to describe it a simpler way, this in turn reduces and slows down the gastric emptying effectively making you feel fuller without the need to continue stuffing your face.

Its not a magic bullet though and I still have to do my bit, I still have to watch my portion sizes as you would with any weight loss plan, also choosing healthier options, more protein and less carbs added with a sprinkle of exercise.

This rather resonates with me just now. I've been struggling mentally quite a bit lately and when that happens, I don't really eat well or take care of myself. As a T2 diabetic, that usually results in a spiral and I see my blood sugars regularly spiking or staying elevated, which further fuels my poor mental health.

I'm glad you're finding a way to tackle your issues! I don't think I'm eligible for a lot of the newer medications coming to market for diabetes treatment as I'm not your typical 'diagnosed later in life body-type'. I'm pretty healthy (BMI is considered 'normal') and fit (run relatively regularly), so I mostly just try and manage with diet/light medication. Some days are just darker/harder...

[Bridge hibs]

This rather resonates with me just now. I've been struggling mentally quite a bit lately and when that happens, I don't really eat well or take care of myself. As a T2 diabetic, that usually results in a spiral and I see my blood sugars regularly spiking or staying elevated, which further fuels my poor mental health.

I'm glad you're finding a way to tackle your issues! I don't think I'm eligible for a lot of the newer medications coming to market for diabetes treatment as I'm not your typical 'diagnosed later in life body-type'. I'm pretty healthy (BMI is considered 'normal') and fit (run relatively regularly), so I mostly just try and manage with diet/light medication. Some days are just darker/harder...

I was a skinny minny for years and literally unable to put on a gram of weight, I had a very physical and active job with a rubbish diet but I was burning up so much energy daily as well as training twice a week and playing football.

I got married and then it was downhill from there, Im not blaming my Wife but I made a few changes to my lifestyle, holidays, eating out more, all the stuff I didnt do as a young lad, and then the kids came along and that increased tenfold, I gave up the training and the football and became more of a couch tattie.

Gradually the belt loosened and my tops got tighter and in fact I saw it as a novelty, I had never put weight on before and I actually found it funny, I never took it seriously even when the nickname “Podge” started getting banded about.

Fast forward many years later and its no ****ing laughing matter now as it wasnt just about bigger sizes, I couldnt see the internal damage. Kidney infections, urinary infections leading to an op at the Western, fatigue followed by depression, I was fighting battles from all fronts but significantly losing them all.

I done all this to myself and I have no-one else to blame but me, it was my chosen path and these are the consequences as a result. Things have improved greatly since Ive switched to Semagutide so fingers crossed I can maintain things.

Good luck to you mate, hope you can get yourself sorted.

[Tambo]

My dreams have been really vivid the past few weeks, one was a nightmare of me getting dragged out of bed which I've only experienced twice in my life and felt real.

[CropleyWasGod]

My dreams have been really vivid the past few weeks, one was a nightmare of me getting dragged out of bed which I've only experienced twice in my life and felt real.

Is that perhaps linked with not using weed? Were you dreaming when you were using it?

Some people just don't dream when they are.

[Tambo]

Is that perhaps linked with not using weed? Were you dreaming when you were using it?

Some people just don't dream when they are.

I would have them now and again but yeah from some research on google it is common to get them often when not smoking it, i enjoy dreaming just some of them are very vivid and feels like real life.

Currently doing some small weights which I'm enjoying.

[CropleyWasGod]

I would have them now and again but yeah from some research on google it is common to get them often when not smoking it, i enjoy dreaming just some of them are very vivid and feels like real life.

Currently doing some small weights which I'm enjoying.

.... which you probably wouldn't have done, or cba doing, before.

Keep at it, mate. It's the wee steps that are the hardest, but the most valuable.

[Tambo]

.... which you probably wouldn't have done, or cba doing, before.

Keep at it, mate. It's the wee steps that are the hardest, but the most valuable.

That's true, i do have more energy to do things.

It's just the weekends i am really struggling with cravings, especially on a Friday.

[silverhibee]

That's true, i do have more energy to do things.

It's just the weekends i am really struggling with cravings, especially on a Friday.

Have you considered the Trip drinks to calm you down a bit at the weekend, my son says they do the trick to relax him at nights, he doesn’t smoke weed though. :greengrin

[Bridge hibs]

Really good watch on BBC iPlayer

Heston: My Life with Bipolar

Heston Blumenthal speaks about his and chats to others about their experiences.

[Tambo]

Have you considered the Trip drinks to calm you down a bit at the weekend, my son says they do the trick to relax him at nights, he doesn’t smoke weed though. :greengrin

Never heard of them, on the website now, look a bit expensive but I'll keep my eye out in the supermarkets but don't think they would sell them.

[overdrive]

Probably not the correct thread for this but decided to post it with the recent posts about dreams, although it isn’t a dream. Probably fits in with anxiety.

Recently whenever I close my eyes I intermittently get images of MS Teams/text message/WhatsApp/ alerts appearing. E.g. when I close my eyes going to sleep or if I wake up in the night and close my eyes again, it’ll happen. The text and WhatsApp style messages come down from the top of my eyes like they would if you were on the phone and the Teams messages comes up at the bottom right.

I can’t read what they say. It’s definitely not a dream. I’m always awake when it happens.

[silverhibee]

Never heard of them, on the website now, look a bit expensive but I'll keep my eye out in the supermarkets but don't think they would sell them.

Trip cbd drink, you get them in the supermarkets, think £2 a can.