Depression and anxiety

[Keith_M]

Kevin McNaughton sending some really troubling tweets last night. Thankfully found safely by the police today.

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Horrible thing to see but glad he has been found.


That's really sad to hear.

[Lendo]

That's really sad to hear.


My own life at the moment is probably familiar to a lot of people, as it seems to be one long pointless malaise.

I get up, do my work, go through normal routines and it all feels so pointless. I have had some short breaks, go out for a wander every weekend, sometimes visit family, go to the football... but I honestly can't remember the last time I actually really enjoyed doing anything, though I pretend to, so I don't upset anybody.

I expect there's loads of folk feel the same, though.

I was feeling like that in the run up to Christmas. Working from home was making things tougher. Every day just feels like the day before, nothing to look forward to or get excited about. Plus just prior to Christmas I lost my best mate to cancer.

Since New Year I’ve started running again and hitting the gym three times a week. I’ve signed up to a few races to give me something to work towards. All I’m focused on now is my Fitness graph on Strava and making sure it continues to go up. It’s such a small thing but having something to motivate me has helped hugely.

It’s really difficult to get yourself out of a rut but it is possible and once you do things get a hell of a lot easier as the weeks go by.

[Lendo]

That's really sad to hear.

This is the misery guts thread, so not only is it allowed, it’s actively encouraged.

[CropleyWasGod]

This for any LGBT posters. Pretty appalling stuff, but worth being aware of.

https://twitter.com/CounsellingKaz/status/1486997717410795529?t=bbJaxh3QEGf0yr2uCXqoJw&s=19

[CropleyWasGod]

This for any LGBT posters or allies. Pretty appalling stuff, but worth being aware of.

https://twitter.com/CounsellingKaz/status/1486997717410795529?t=bbJaxh3QEGf0yr2uCXqoJw&s=19

[hibsbollah]

https://timetotalkday.co.uk/about/

Today is TTTD, a mental health awareness day run by Mind in partnership with the Scottish Association for Mental Health and See Me in Scotland. The aim of the day is to encourage open and frank conversations about mental health with friends, family, and colleagues with the aim of building supportive and transformative communities across the country.

[LunasBoots]

Been going through that worthless feeling of late, just seems like I can do nothing right, high anxiety, depression etc, hoping in the long term I can get out of that feeling its not a nice place to be in. Mental health is something you don't really get I feel until you go through it.

[Lendo]

Been going through that worthless feeling of late, just seems like I can do nothing right, high anxiety, depression etc, hoping in the long term I can get out of that feeling its not a nice place to be in. Mental health is something you don't really get I feel until you go through it.

You’ve taken a massive step by even just opening up about what you’re going through and how you’re feeling by posting here. DM are always open, as I’m sure they are for most people on this thread if you need to talk.

[McD]

Been going through that worthless feeling of late, just seems like I can do nothing right, high anxiety, depression etc, hoping in the long term I can get out of that feeling its not a nice place to be in. Mental health is something you don't really get I feel until you go through it.


I've been feeling very similarly for a few months now mate, and know exactly what you mean. The enjoyment seems sucked out of everything, little interest in doing things you normally enjoy, even wee things

[Alex Trager]

Don’t know if any of you are aware, there is a good podcast that seems to be getting recored weekly about mental health by the longbangers guys.

They are open to having new people join so just get in touch.

Otherwise, I find it an immensely interesting discussion every week. It’s good to know some people feel the same way you do.

Here’s the spotify link, it’s called Heidbangers.

https://open.spotify.com/episode/5oDtVm90rE5nUdC2VcivBS?si=NrZxTP5kR2eQUxQobXBnBw

[LustForLeith]

Don’t know if any of you are aware, there is a good podcast that seems to be getting recored weekly about mental health by the longbangers guys.

They are open to having new people join so just get in touch.

Otherwise, I find it an immensely interesting discussion every week. It’s good to know some people feel the same way you do.

Here’s the spotify link, it’s called Heidbangers.

https://open.spotify.com/episode/5oDtVm90rE5nUdC2VcivBS?si=NrZxTP5kR2eQUxQobXBnBw


It’s really good this.

Well worth a listen

[Babyshamble]

I've had anxiety for a few years.ive been off medication for over a year.But in the last few months ive had to deal with my dad & uncle both getting diagnosed with prostate cancer.ive split with my girlfriend.my sister has been sectioned with mental health issues. I'm back on pills now.ive bit the bullet and asked for help.i can't cope on my own.but ive realised there is help out there.if only one person struggling reads this.please get help.there are folk out there that love you.

[LunasBoots]

You’ve taken a massive step by even just opening up about what you’re going through and how you’re feeling by posting here. DM are always open, as I’m sure they are for most people on this thread if you need to talk.

Thanks mate, have been in weekly CBT therapy which has been a eye-opener to problems throughout my life, basically has said I've been very let down by certain professionals and even some family who don't get the whole mental illness thing and just act like I'm normal and can do everyday life things like them when that's not the case. One day I'm fine next I can be right down in the dumps, just try my best to live with it.

[Scorrie]

Thanks mate, have been in weekly CBT therapy which has been a eye-opener to problems throughout my life, basically has said I've been very let down by certain professionals and even some family who don't get the whole mental illness thing and just act like I'm normal and can do everyday life things like them when that's not the case. One day I'm fine next I can be right down in the dumps, just try my best to live with it.

Your last sentence is key. Taking each day as it comes is so important and on the bad days remember that it will pass and, importantly, be kind to yourself

[Bridge hibs]

I've had anxiety for a few years.ive been off medication for over a year.But in the last few months ive had to deal with my dad & uncle both getting diagnosed with prostate cancer.ive split with my girlfriend.my sister has been sectioned with mental health issues. I'm back on pills now.ive bit the bullet and asked for help.i can't cope on my own.but ive realised there is help out there.if only one person struggling reads this.please get help.there are folk out there that love you.Ive read pages upon pages of this thread, Ive had my moments but know what, the sheer balls that folk and fellow hibs fans have in sharing their experiences with fellow fans (hope guest fans are reading too as we are as one) trumps anything football has to offer, 10/10 hibs.net for this thread

Kick on mate, you are not and will never be alone

[Pedantic_Hibee]

I've had anxiety for a few years.ive been off medication for over a year.But in the last few months ive had to deal with my dad & uncle both getting diagnosed with prostate cancer.ive split with my girlfriend.my sister has been sectioned with mental health issues. I'm back on pills now.ive bit the bullet and asked for help.i can't cope on my own.but ive realised there is help out there.if only one person struggling reads this.please get help.there are folk out there that love you.

Speaking up is one of the most powerful things you can do.

Similarly, I found (and still do) that writing a daily journal helps massively in unravelling my thoughts.

[Keith_M]

I've had anxiety for a few years.ive been off medication for over a year.But in the last few months ive had to deal with my dad & uncle both getting diagnosed with prostate cancer.ive split with my girlfriend.my sister has been sectioned with mental health issues. I'm back on pills now.ive bit the bullet and asked for help.i can't cope on my own.but ive realised there is help out there.if only one person struggling reads this.please get help.there are folk out there that love you.


I'm really sorry to hear you're struggling, understandable given your circumstances.

It's good to hear you've reached out for help and I really hope you get the help you need.

[Hibrandenburg]

Anybody heard of this?

https://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/new-treatment-for-depression-causes-remission-in-almost-80-percent-of-patients/

[CropleyWasGod]

Anybody heard of this?

https://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/new-treatment-for-depression-causes-remission-in-almost-80-percent-of-patients/

Yeah. There was a wee discussion on here about it a few months back.

[WeeRussell]

I've had anxiety for a few years.ive been off medication for over a year.But in the last few months ive had to deal with my dad & uncle both getting diagnosed with prostate cancer.ive split with my girlfriend.my sister has been sectioned with mental health issues. I'm back on pills now.ive bit the bullet and asked for help.i can't cope on my own.but ive realised there is help out there.if only one person struggling reads this.please get help.there are folk out there that love you.

Sorry to hear you’re having a particularly tough time of it pal, never easy.

I know someone that experienced pretty similar to what you described above. It can be a long grind but there is a light at the other side as there is absolutely no shame in reaching out for help.

It’s also quite surprising how much of a difference the weather and light can make, which should begin to improve quickly.

In addition - I wouldn’t describe myself as in a depressive or anxious state at all right now. But I am aware with everything going on in the world right now, that it makes my mood less ‘hopeful’ when I do feel less then great.

Hopefully things pick-up for you before long.

[stu in nottingham]

Anybody heard of this?

https://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/new-treatment-for-depression-causes-remission-in-almost-80-percent-of-patients/

Yes, I was involved in setting up an experiment using TMS a few years ago at The Institute of Mental Health, University of Nottingham. At the time the thinking was that it had potential regarding the benefits for people with depression that had been found. However, these benefits were short-lived, maybe just a day or so. The treatment used a skull cap which passed magnetic impulses through the brain. Non-invasive. Participants in the experiment were offered a £20 voucher as I recall.

[Santa Cruz]

Bumping this thread. Way to important to sit hidden on page 3.

It has helped me so much just reading others experiences/advice. Thanks again for sharing.

[CropleyWasGod]

New series on Netflix about psychedelics. How To Change Your Mind. Might be worth a look.

[Pagan Hibernia]

I had been doing really well. Really done a lot of work on myself, and had built up self esteem and self confidence. Life tends to throw things at you that test how far you’ve come.

my car was stolen yesterday. A very small thing really, and something that happens to people every day, but to me it has brought on, or should I say brought back feelings of stupidity and self loathing.

ah well. Time to work on it again.

[CropleyWasGod]

I had been doing really well. Really done a lot of work on myself, and had built up self esteem and self confidence. Life tends to throw things at you that test how far you’ve come.

my car was stolen yesterday. A very small thing really, and something that happens to people every day, but to me it has brought on, or should I say brought back feelings of stupidity and self loathing.

ah well. Time to work on it again.

Sorry to hear that.

However... and I realise that this may be small comfort to you just now... you HAVE come a long way. You have proved to yourself that you have the tools to get you where you want to be.

Get the tool box out again 😀

[Pagan Hibernia]

Sorry to hear that.

However... and I realise that this may be small comfort to you just now... you HAVE come a long way. You have proved to yourself that you have the tools to get you where you want to be.

Get the tool box out again 😀

thanks mate

[LongJohnBanger]

I had been doing really well. Really done a lot of work on myself, and had built up self esteem and self confidence. Life tends to throw things at you that test how far you’ve come.

my car was stolen yesterday. A very small thing really, and something that happens to people every day, but to me it has brought on, or should I say brought back feelings of stupidity and self loathing.

ah well. Time to work on it again.

Can sympathise with this.

I was in a place for a period where I couldn't enjoy good moments to their fullest because I 'knew' something ***** would inevitably be round the corner that would plunge me deeper into a hole that became more and more difficult to get out of with every passing occasion.

Therapy helped me massively. Among other things I was able to learn to ride the peaks and troughs of life much better than I ever have.

It's very easy to say but your car getting stolen (though an absolute pain in the arse) shouldn't be the setback to your mental health that you're feeling it is.

Therapy (and time) is a great way to tackle those feelings but in the meantime, take a breather, try not to be so hard on yourself and practice a bit of self-care (e.g. whatever calms you).

[Scorrie]

Sorry to hear that.

However... and I realise that this may be small comfort to you just now... you HAVE come a long way. You have proved to yourself that you have the tools to get you where you want to be.

Get the tool box out again 😀

I would agree 100% with this. Unfortunately life does throw crappy things at you which can seem to set you back. But remember how far you’ve come, try to realise that these things happen to everybody (not just you for being “weak” and use the tools you have to get through it. I have to use the tools that therapy gave me almost every morning when I wake up. They do help

[LustForLeith]

Put this in the main three as but there’s a drop in session for the changing room next Monday. Meeting at 6 at the famous five stand.

A chance for men to tackle their mental health through Hibs.

It’s free, safe and confidential. And there’s tea and biscuits!

[CropleyWasGod]

Interesting new study on the question of low serotonin .

https://neurosciencenews.com/serotonin-depression-21074/

[Just_Jimmy]

Moving this up. Not depression or anxiety as such but a bit advice.

My Mum died in May. She had MND. I mentioned it before on other threads and it wasn't unexpected due to her diagnosis.

However, I took time off work following it probably, obviously. Work have been excellent in that they've basically said take as much time as I need and mean it. I had a meeting about going back, with OH but they want me to speak to a bereavement Counciller before I go back. I'm not even sure where to start really...

My work offers a thing through a third party where you call call up and they arrange over the phone councilling. I'm not really interested in speaking to someone over the phone, it's impersonal and I don't particularly like it. However, the service has been crap, I've called three times;

Once to set it up, they complained it was a bad line but I could hear them. Eventually I gave up. Secondly I managed to speak to some admin guy in a call centre who said he'd arranged an appointment between a two hour window on a day. They didn't call.

I called this morning to chase it up and was told someone would call back. Still waiting.

I've contacted another option through an insurance scheme I pay into via work and I was told to call back cos everyone was busy.

I'm not invested in it. I'm not particularly interested in doing it, I'm doing it so I can go back to work but I'm getting massively pissed off because they're telling me to access it but I'm having to jump through hoops to try and just talk to someone I've no real interest in talking to anyway...

I'd much prefer face to face. I hate relying on phone calls and other people letting me down constantly.

Has anyone been in this situation or can anyone offer advice?



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[stu in nottingham]

Moving this up. Not depression or anxiety as such but a bit advice.

My Mum died in May. She had MND. I mentioned it before on other threads and it wasn't unexpected due to her diagnosis.

However, I took time off work following it probably, obviously. Work have been excellent in that they've basically said take as much time as I need and mean it. I had a meeting about going back, with OH but they want me to speak to a bereavement Counciller before I go back. I'm not even sure where to start really...

My work offers a thing through a third party where you call call up and they arrange over the phone councilling. I'm not really interested in speaking to someone over the phone, it's impersonal and I don't particularly like it. However, the service has been crap, I've called three times;

Once to set it up, they complained it was a bad line but I could hear them. Eventually I gave up. Secondly I managed to speak to some admin guy in a call centre who said he'd arranged an appointment between a two hour window on a day. They didn't call.

I called this morning to chase it up and was told someone would call back. Still waiting.

I've contacted another option through an insurance scheme I pay into via work and I was told to call back cos everyone was busy.

I'm not invested in it. I'm not particularly interested in doing it, I'm doing it so I can go back to work but I'm getting massively pissed off because they're telling me to access it but I'm having to jump through hoops to try and just talk to someone I've no real interest in talking to anyway...

I'd much prefer face to face. I hate relying on phone calls and other people letting me down constantly.

Has anyone been in this situation or can anyone offer advice?



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Hi Jimmy

I'm very sorry for the loss of your mum. I'll try to offer a few thoughts and suggestions about your problem. I understand that it's an obligation for you to have support and I'll speak on that basis.

Sorry too about your experience so far. It sounds as though the organisation you're dealing with may possibly have a lack of resources and or staff. Such is the way nowadays.

The first people I think of for bereavement support are Cruse, a non-profit organisation. I see their business address in Scotland is in Edinburgh (not sure where you're based) and I'm wondering if there might be 1-1 face to face support for you locally with them. Have a check through their site, it mentions slightly different support for those bereaved within the past six months and those bereaved beyond that time. There's opinion that for some, support after the first six months can be more beneficial at a time when family and friend support has decreased and people have passed through stages of grief.. You may want to make this point with your employer.

https://www.crusescotland.org.uk/how-can-we-help/bereavement-support-for-adults/

https://www.cruse.org.uk/

Regarding telephone counselling I have several years experience in carrying this out and recognise the pros and cons of it. I am given little choice but to offer anything but telephone or Zoom calls and find the majority of people are happy enough with it. I also recognise that some are disappointed that they cannot meet face to face and totally understand that sentiment.You may find a videocall a little better but for some it presents another layer of difficulty. I find people who choose telephone work way outnumber those who like a Zoom call.

The pandemic accelerated use of telephone and online work and many services have not returned or returned fully to offering in-person counselling, my employers mostly included in that.

I think many practitioners have become more skilled at giving support by these means in recent times though some undoubtedly still don't like it or buy into it fully. If it's the case that you have no other options, let's then consider a few positive aspects of it. I should say firstly that my own organisation's results since employing these methods have actually been slightly more successful, believe it or not! A key might be in the attendance figures.

With telephone counselling the only cue or clue to what's actually happening with the client is of course their voice. Active listening by the practitioner should always be of great inportance and this is increasingly so when there are none of the traditional cues and clues given by someone presenting in front of you. You can be sure that any practitioner is listening double-hard in my view!

From a practitioner's view on how they can help you they can have a range of resources and research at their fingertips online as you both speak.

Many clients enjoy that they can relax in their own environment at home. They find it less tense and anxiety-inducing than having to get to a building somewhere, sit in an unfamiliar room, out of their own comfort zone. Instead, they can sit at home and chat with a cup of coffee and let the session roll out.

I have had many clients who were at first dead set against telephone support but quickly settled into it after committing. I guess part of that is in the practitioner's skill and experience in working this way.

Let me know either here or by DM if I can answer any other questions for you mate.

[Just_Jimmy]

Hi Jimmy

I'm very sorry for the loss of your mum. I'll try to offer a few thoughts and suggestions about your problem. I understand that it's an obligation for you to have support and I'll speak on that basis.

Sorry too about your experience so far. It sounds as though the organisation you're dealing with may possibly have a lack of resources and or staff. Such is the way nowadays.

The first people I think of for bereavement support are Cruse, a non-profit organisation. I see their business address in Scotland is in Edinburgh (not sure where you're based) and I'm wondering if there might be 1-1 face to face support for you locally with them. Have a check through their site, it mentions slightly different support for those bereaved within the past six months and those bereaved beyond that time. There's opinion that for some, support after the first six months can be more beneficial at a time when family and friend support has decreased and people have passed through stages of grief.. You may want to make this point with your employer.

https://www.crusescotland.org.uk/how-can-we-help/bereavement-support-for-adults/

https://www.cruse.org.uk/

Regarding telephone counselling I have several years experience in carrying this out and recognise the pros and cons of it. I am given little choice but to offer anything but telephone or Zoom calls and find the majority of people are happy enough with it. I also recognise that some are disappointed that they cannot meet face to face and totally understand that sentiment.You may find a videocall a little better but for some it presents another layer of difficulty. I find people who choose telephone work way outnumber those who like a Zoom call.

The pandemic accelerated use of telephone and online work and many services have not returned or returned fully to offering in-person counselling, my employers mostly included in that.

I think many practitioners have become more skilled at giving support by these means in recent times though some undoubtedly still don't like it or buy into it fully. If it's the case that you have no other options, let's then consider a few positive aspects of it. I should say firstly that my own organisation's results since employing these methods have actually been slightly more successful, believe it or not! A key might be in the attendance figures.

With telephone counselling the only cue or clue to what's actually happening with the client is of course their voice. Active listening by the practitioner should always be of great inportance and this is increasingly so when there are none of the traditional cues and clues given by someone presenting in front of you. You can be sure that any practitioner is listening double-hard in my view!

From a practitioner's view on how they can help you they can have a range of resources and research at their fingertips online as you both speak.

Many clients enjoy that they can relax in their own environment at home. They find it less tense and anxiety-inducing than having to get to a building somewhere, sit in an unfamiliar room, out of their own comfort zone. Instead, they can sit at home and chat with a cup of coffee and let the session roll out.

I have had many clients who were at first dead set against telephone support but quickly settled into it after committing. I guess part of that is in the practitioner's skill and experience in working this way.

Let me know either here or by DM if I can answer any other questions for you mate.

Hi Stu, thanks for taking the time to reply. It's an interesting read. My frustration is probably more that I detest poor service, and I feel that's what I've recieved so far from a company my employer is paying for a service. That's maybe unfair as you suggest, I'm absolutely less tolerant of things atm.

I'm open to speaking, I don't particularly feel I need it yet but it's likely I'm just not recognising that. If its as successful as you suggest it might be, I'll give it a shot and see. My wife suggested earlier that being closed to it means it'll fail either way and as normal... she's right.

I'll drop you a PM in a bit if I have anything else I need to discuss. I'm currently waiting on another call back from them so I'll see how it goes.

Thanks again.

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[grunt]

Hi Stu, thanks for taking the time to reply. It's an interesting read. My frustration is probably more that I detest poor service, and I feel that's what I've recieved so far from a company my employer is paying for a service. I hear you and I agree.

Sounds to me as though you have a fairly progressive employer (since they've been helpful and have these services available). In your position, I think I'd be speaking to my employer to let them know your feelings about the service that their contractor is providing. I expect they'll have someone whose job it is to look after your employer's relationship with this provider, and they could get involved to assist?

I'd also echo Stu's comments about CRUSE. They were very helpful to a relative of mine.

PS hope you don't mind my commenting on your post, and I wish you well in managing to deal with your loss. Loss of our loved ones hits us all differently, IMO there's no one way to handle it.

[stu in nottingham]

Hi Stu, thanks for taking the time to reply. It's an interesting read. My frustration is probably more that I detest poor service, and I feel that's what I've recieved so far from a company my employer is paying for a service. That's maybe unfair as you suggest, I'm absolutely less tolerant of things atm.

I'm open to speaking, I don't particularly feel I need it yet but it's likely I'm just not recognising that. If its as successful as you suggest it might be, I'll give it a shot and see. My wife suggested earlier that being closed to it means it'll fail either way and as normal... she's right.

I'll drop you a PM in a bit if I have anything else I need to discuss. I'm currently waiting on another call back from them so I'll see how it goes.

Thanks again.

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No worries mate, I quite understand how frustrating that must be, it's disappointing service and that must be offputting. It's ironic that your company is paying for this service. The non-profit organisation I work for is free and undertakes to put referrals through to counsellors in a set number of days and has to document that. It is audited too.

Good luck with everything. :aok:

[Just_Jimmy]

I hear you and I agree.

Sounds to me as though you have a fairly progressive employer (since they've been helpful and have these services available). In your position, I think I'd be speaking to my employer to let them know your feelings about the service that their contractor is providing. I expect they'll have someone whose job it is to look after your employer's relationship with this provider, and they could get involved to assist?

I'd also echo Stu's comments about CRUSE. They were very helpful to a relative of mine.

PS hope you don't mind my commenting on your post, and I wish you well in managing to deal with your loss. Loss of our loved ones hits us all differently, IMO there's no one way to handle it.No issue at all mate. Thanks for reading.

I should have said I contacted cruse last week and they emailed me right away, but they have a 10 or 12 week lead time which isn't great because I want to go back to work.

You're right in that my employer has been excellent and I'll feed it back when I have my next meeting. I'm sure they'll be disappointed to hear about it.

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[Just_Jimmy]

No worries mate, I quite understand how frustrating that must be, it's disappointing service and that must be offputting. It's ironic that your company is paying for this service. The non-profit organisation I work for is free and undertakes to put referrals through to counsellors in a set number of days and has to document that. It is audited too.

Good luck with everything. :aok:I've looked at a couple of services but I'm reluctant to go to a non profit etc and use a space someone who needs it could use, whilst my employer offers a third party they pay for.

I might end up being a solution for me and I'll make a donation or whatever to them.

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[CropleyWasGod]

World Suicide Prevention Day falls on 10th September.

The World Health Organisation (WHO) estimates that more than 700,000 people die due to suicide each year. For every suicide there are many more who attempt suicide or have suicidal thoughts. Suicidal behaviour profoundly impacts families and communities and remains a universal challenge with millions impacted. The reduction of suicide mortality is of global importance and a vital public health consideration.

World Suicide Prevention Day was established in 2003 by the International Association for Suicide Prevention in conjunction with the World Health Organisation. The 10th of September each year focuses attention on the issue, reduces stigma and raises awareness among organisations, government, and the public, giving a singular message that suicide can be prevented.

“Creating hope through action” is the theme for World Suicide Prevention Day from 2021 - 2023. This theme is a reminder that there is an alternative to suicide and aims to inspire confidence and light in all of us.


https://www.who.int/campaigns/world-suicide-prevention-day/2022

https://www.iasp.info/wspd/

#WorldSuicidePreventionDay

Creating Hope Through Action.

[Hibernia&Alba]

I've been feeling a bit crap for a couple of weeks. I can always tell that I'm struggling when my OCD habits intensify, particularly hair pulling. Intrusive thoughts are a big problem. Luckily, I've been dealing with it all my life, so I know the drill by now regarding coping strategies.

[Jones28]

I witnessed a very intense panic/anxiety attack today and I don’t think it’s something I would wish on anyone.

I was told that the guy was trying to stop drinking and it was related to that.

The noises he was making were of pure terror, and this is a big, scary looking guy.

[Smartie]

There’s an interesting programme on Netflix about the tennis player Mardy Fish where he discusses some of his own mental health issues.

He got into the best physical shape of his life, his game improved accordingly and then the pressure that came with being the number 1 American tennis player at that time came crashing down on him.

[stu in nottingham]

I've been feeling a bit crap for a couple of weeks. I can always tell that I'm struggling when my OCD habits intensify, particularly hair pulling. Intrusive thoughts are a big problem. Luckily, I've been dealing with it all my life, so I know the drill by now regarding coping strategies.

Sorry to hear mate but also pleased you know the script with what works for you in dealing with those feelings. It's different for every person of course but if there is anything you feel able to share for others' benefit, please do. Hope you're feeling better soon.


I witnessed a very intense panic/anxiety attack today and I don’t think it’s something I would wish on anyone.

I was told that the guy was trying to stop drinking and it was related to that.

The noises he was making were of pure terror, and this is a big, scary looking guy.

Reminds me of something I learned when first being trained in this stuff and it stuck in my mind. It's that at their very worst, people can actually feel like they're dying when they experience panic attacks. I hope the guy is okay.

[CropleyWasGod]

Interesting study.

https://neurosciencenews.com/tob-depression-anxiety-21383/

[Bridge hibs]

My anxiety levels are through the roof, all this Ukraine/nuke stuff has tipped me over the edge and Im having a massive anxiety attack just now, Im seriously thinking of ways out now, just cant take it anymore, Im literally pacing the livingroom 😞

[CropleyWasGod]

My anxiety levels are through the roof, all this Ukraine/nuke stuff has tipped me over the edge and Im having a massive anxiety attack just now, Im seriously thinking of ways out now, just cant take it anymore, Im literally pacing the livingroom 😞

Do you have someone to talk to?

If not,

PAPYRUS HOPELINEUK
0800 068 4 1 4 1
07 786 209697 (TEXT)
[email protected]
PAPYRUS-UK.ORG
CONFIDENTIAL SUPPORT FOR
UNDER-35S AT RISK OF SUICIDE
AND OTHERS WHO ARE
CONCERNED ABOUT THEM. OPEN
DAILY FROM 9AM–MIDNIGHT.


SAMARITANS
116 123 (FREEPHONE)

SAMARITANS ARE OPEN 24 / 7 FOR
ANYONE WHO NEEDS TO TALK.
YOU CAN VISIT SOME
SAMARITANS BRANCHES IN
PERSON.

SHOUT
85258 (TEXT SHOUT)
GIVEUSASHOUT.ORG
CONFIDENTIAL 24 / 7 TEXT SERVICE
OFFERING SUPPORT IF YOU ARE
IN CRISIS AND NEED IMMEDIATE
HELP.

STAY ALIVE
PREVENT-SUICIDE.ORG.UK
APP WITH HELP AND RESOURCES
FOR PEOPLE WHO FEEL SUICIDAL
OR ARE SUPPORTING SOMEONE
ELSE.

[Stairway 2 7]

My anxiety levels are through the roof, all this Ukraine/nuke stuff has tipped me over the edge and Im having a massive anxiety attack just now, Im seriously thinking of ways out now, just cant take it anymore, Im literally pacing the livingroom 😞

I'd advise calling samaratins or such 116 123. I personally think there's is not a chance he sends a nuke. If you are wanting to go to hibs St j next Friday, I'd defo meet for a pint before. I would happily boar you to tears talking about why I think he won't. Defo phone someone regardless please mate

[Bridge hibs]

Do you have someone to talk to?

If not,

PAPYRUS HOPELINEUK
0800 068 4 1 4 1
07 786 209697 (TEXT)
[email protected]
PAPYRUS-UK.ORG
CONFIDENTIAL SUPPORT FOR
UNDER-35S AT RISK OF SUICIDE
AND OTHERS WHO ARE
CONCERNED ABOUT THEM. OPEN
DAILY FROM 9AM–MIDNIGHT.


SAMARITANS
116 123 (FREEPHONE)

SAMARITANS ARE OPEN 24 / 7 FOR
ANYONE WHO NEEDS TO TALK.
YOU CAN VISIT SOME
SAMARITANS BRANCHES IN
PERSON.

SHOUT
85258 (TEXT SHOUT)
GIVEUSASHOUT.ORG
CONFIDENTIAL 24 / 7 TEXT SERVICE
OFFERING SUPPORT IF YOU ARE
IN CRISIS AND NEED IMMEDIATE
HELP.

STAY ALIVE
PREVENT-SUICIDE.ORG.UK
APP WITH HELP AND RESOURCES
FOR PEOPLE WHO FEEL SUICIDAL
OR ARE SUPPORTING SOMEONE
ELSE.Thanks mate, Ive called my Wife and she is on her way from work, she knows my issues well. Im normally good at coping but something triggered when I switched on the news this morning and my head just went into overdrive, to the point calmness went to irrational thinking. Ive stopped pacing the livingroom, still literraly shaking now though

[CropleyWasGod]

Thanks mate, Ive called my Wife and she is on her way from work, she knows my issues well. Im normally good at coping but something triggered when I switched on the news this morning and my head just went into overdrive, to the point calmness went to irrational thinking. Ive stopped pacing the livingroom, still literraly shaking now though

:aok:

Take care of yourself..... the last word being the most important.

[hibsbollah]

Thanks mate, Ive called my Wife and she is on her way from work, she knows my issues well. Im normally good at coping but something triggered when I switched on the news this morning and my head just went into overdrive, to the point calmness went to irrational thinking. Ive stopped pacing the livingroom, still literraly shaking now though

That’s never nice, I really hope you’re feeling better soon. I have some experience with an anxiety disorder and just patiently controlling your breathing really is the first step to getting yourself grounded and dealing with everything else. Keep us posted :aok:

[Bridge hibs]

Thanks so much guys, really appreciate the support. Some really horrible and uncontrollable thoughts went through my head, havent experienced that before.

Apologies, Ive been ill for a wee while and that may have contributed. Ive taken a tablet and Im going to try and get a sleep

[stu in nottingham]

Thanks so much guys, really appreciate the support. Some really horrible and uncontrollable thoughts went through my head, havent experienced that before.

Apologies, Ive been ill for a wee while and that may have contributed. Ive taken a tablet and Im going to try and get a sleep

Here to talk and to listen if I can be of any help mate. Just get in touch.

It would be a good time to ease yourself away from the news reports for a while. They can take their toll on anyone, let alone those prone to anxiety and there should be a time when you feel free to take yourself away from them and distract yourself with other things that help you relax.

[Santa Cruz]

Thanks so much guys, really appreciate the support. Some really horrible and uncontrollable thoughts went through my head, havent experienced that before.

Apologies, Ive been ill for a wee while and that may have contributed. Ive taken a tablet and Im going to try and get a sleep

I remember reading about your other health problems on another thread, it will no doubt be contributing towards how you are feeling.

I hope you feel better after your sleep, and more generally your physical health improves with time. I have experienced similar recently with anxiety attacks. I find it's helpful to remind myself this has happened before and it passed, and it will pass again. I realise everyone has different ranges of anxiety levels and what works for one person may not be as helpful for someone else. So, I'm not saying this will work for you, more sharing my own experience and how I try to manage it, in the hope you know you're not alone.

If you do experience the same levels of anxiety again there is a Mental Health Assessment team you can call in emergencies, this is presuming you live in the Lothians.

Take care.

https://services.nhslothian.scot/MentalHealthAssessmentService/Pages/default.aspx

[Bridge hibs]

I remember reading about your other health problems on another thread, it will no doubt be contributing towards how you are feeling.

I hope you feel better after your sleep, and more generally your physical health improves with time. I have experienced similar recently with anxiety attacks. I find it's helpful to remind myself this has happened before and it passed, and it will pass again. I realise everyone has different ranges of anxiety levels and what works for one person may not be as helpful for someone else. So, I'm not saying this will work for you, more sharing my own experience and how I try to manage it, in the hope you know you're not alone.

If you do experience the same levels of anxiety again there is a Mental Health Assessment team you can call in emergencies, this is presuming you live in the Lothians.

Take care.

https://services.nhslothian.scot/MentalHealthAssessmentService/Pages/default.aspxThanks mate, yes my anxiety attacks are few and far between nowadays and I have eliminated a lot of the triggers and can manage the very few I do have. This episode today was completely out of character and actually scared me, it was like an outer body experience which I didnt have control over, particularly concerning were the irrational thoughts, never have I felt as bad as that before.

Looking at that post I suppose in that moment I needed to express my thoughts there and then, I didnt mean to cause alarm and I can understand why it would but I needed to put my thoughts somewhere as I needed to reach out.

I have been physically ill, havent eaten much the past week and sleep deprived which may have contributed significantly to this episode today. I managed to grab an hour after taking a tab, my Sister who also suffers from anxiety visited me today for a bit and I feel a bit calmer just now

Thanks again and thanks to others for advice

Apologies

[CropleyWasGod]

Thanks mate, yes my anxiety attacks are few and far between nowadays and I have eliminated a lot of the triggers and can manage the very few I do have. This episode today was completely out of character and actually scared me, it was like an outer body experience which I didnt have control over, particularly concerning were the irrational thoughts, never have I felt as bad as that before.

Looking at that post I suppose in that moment I needed to express my thoughts there and then, I didnt mean to cause alarm and I can understand why it would but I needed to put my thoughts somewhere as I needed to reach out.

I have been physically ill, havent eaten much the past week and sleep deprived which may have contributed significantly to this episode today. I managed to grab an hour after taking a tab, my Sister who also suffers from anxiety visited me today for a bit and I feel a bit calmer just now

Thanks again and thanks to others for advice

Apologies

No apologies needed. This thread is a great resource for people who want to express themselves.

[Santa Cruz]

No need to apologise. Speaking from my own experience being on your own when anxiety/irrational thoughts occur suddenly, heightens how you feel.

Sounds like you're feeling a bit better in yourself now, which is the main thing. Even coming back to your last post and reading it again may be enough to give you a bit of reassurance if you experience the same thing again (I find reading a couple of older posts from others when I'm not doing good can be helpful). :aok:

[McD]

Thanks so much guys, really appreciate the support. Some really horrible and uncontrollable thoughts went through my head, havent experienced that before.

Apologies, Ive been ill for a wee while and that may have contributed. Ive taken a tablet and Im going to try and get a sleep


nothing to apologise for mate, just very glad you’ve spoken on here, and to your wife

[Just_Jimmy]

Thanks mate, yes my anxiety attacks are few and far between nowadays and I have eliminated a lot of the triggers and can manage the very few I do have. This episode today was completely out of character and actually scared me, it was like an outer body experience which I didnt have control over, particularly concerning were the irrational thoughts, never have I felt as bad as that before.

Looking at that post I suppose in that moment I needed to express my thoughts there and then, I didnt mean to cause alarm and I can understand why it would but I needed to put my thoughts somewhere as I needed to reach out.

I have been physically ill, havent eaten much the past week and sleep deprived which may have contributed significantly to this episode today. I managed to grab an hour after taking a tab, my Sister who also suffers from anxiety visited me today for a bit and I feel a bit calmer just now

Thanks again and thanks to others for advice

ApologiesNever apologise for reaching out.

Asking for help in any form takes real guts.

I'm glad you're feeling a bit better and I hope you continue to feel you can cope.

Always remember there's people on here who will listen.



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[Liam89]

Has anyone been on an SSRI solely for anxiety? I've always had a higher level of anxiety than the average person but this year in particular I've had 2 or 3 lengthy periods where I wake up feeling a knot in my stomach. It's turned into anxiety about being anxious and has more physical manifestations than usual, dizziness / nausea and panic, it's leading to some light agoraphobia too.

I know it'll pass as it usually does but I'm growing a bit tired and concerned that it's coming around more frequently and lasting longer. Has anyone got any experience with using medication for anxiety?

[Bridge hibs]

Has anyone been on an SSRI solely for anxiety? I've always had a higher level of anxiety than the average person but this year in particular I've had 2 or 3 lengthy periods where I wake up feeling a knot in my stomach. It's turned into anxiety about being anxious and has more physical manifestations than usual, dizziness / nausea and panic, it's leading to some light agoraphobia too.

I know it'll pass as it usually does but I'm growing a bit tired and concerned that it's coming around more frequently and lasting longer. Has anyone got any experience with using medication for anxiety?I absolutley feel for you mate as I have just recently experienced my worst episode of anxiety ever. I cant advise on meds as I dont take any for my anxiety as my attacks are more rare nowadays and are normally manageable

Stopping alcohol has made a big difference as my hangovers were inducing my attacks and most recently thanks to advice on here Ive tried to avoid the news because that triggered my worst ever attack with uncontrollable thoughts

Thanks again guys, you are top class

Hope you can get good advice mate and as others have said to me, were only a message away if you need to talk 👍

[stu in nottingham]

Has anyone been on an SSRI solely for anxiety? I've always had a higher level of anxiety than the average person but this year in particular I've had 2 or 3 lengthy periods where I wake up feeling a knot in my stomach. It's turned into anxiety about being anxious and has more physical manifestations than usual, dizziness / nausea and panic, it's leading to some light agoraphobia too.

I know it'll pass as it usually does but I'm growing a bit tired and concerned that it's coming around more frequently and lasting longer. Has anyone got any experience with using medication for anxiety?

Some SSRIs are considered more useful for anxiety than others. Commonly prescribed SSRIs such as Citalopram and Sertraline, are typical of those medication types. Some people describe this medication group as 'taking the edge off' their anxiety or 'turning the volume down' on it and it's often considered a first step in treating it. They can also help with other contributors to anxiety such as physiological ones including sleep problems, headaches and so on. Their potential easing of anxiety symptoms can also help in engaging with psychotherapy and well-being activities such as Mindfulness.

It's good to know what type of anxiety you experience and for this reason it's a good idea to engage with your GP whether seeking medication or not. The five major groups of anxiety are, Generalised Anxiety Disorder (GAD), Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD), Panic Disorder, Social Anxiety Disorder (Social Phobia) and Post-Traumatic Disorder (PTSD).

My personal view, for what it's worth, is that when considering the use of medication and/or talking therapy, the latter can work well on its own, medication alone less so. It's my opinion that medication is best used in conjunction with talking therapy.

[Liam89]

Some SSRIs are considered more useful for anxiety than others. Commonly prescribed SSRIs such as Citalopram and Sertraline, are typical of those medication types. Some people describe this medication group as 'taking the edge off' their anxiety or 'turning the volume down' on it and it's often considered a first step in treating it. They can also help with other contributors to anxiety such as physiological ones including sleep problems, headaches and so on. Their potential easing of anxiety symptoms can also help in engaging with psychotherapy and well-being activities such as Mindfulness.

It's good to know what type of anxiety you experience and for this reason it's a good idea to engage with your GP whether seeking medication or not. The five major groups of anxiety are, Generalised Anxiety Disorder (GAD), Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD), Panic Disorder, Social Anxiety Disorder (Social Phobia) and Post-Traumatic Disorder (PTSD).

My personal view, for what it's worth, is that when considering the use of medication and/or talking therapy, the latter can work well on its own, medication alone less so. It's my opinion that medication is best used in conjunction with talking therapy.

Thanks a lot for this.

If I had to self diagnose, I'd say it's GAD. You're right though, I'll go and speak to a GP.

And cheers @bridge hibs, I hope your anxiety eases too! It's a terrible thing to suffer from but talking about it helps tremendously.

[Stairway 2 7]

Digital age, sad reading this

Loneliness peaks in youth and over half of Americans say they are lonely. I in 7 men say they have no friends https://bmj.com/content/376/bmj-2021-067068

[SteveHFC]

Digital age, sad reading this

Loneliness peaks in youth and over half of Americans say they are lonely. I in 7 men say they have no friends https://bmj.com/content/376/bmj-2021-067068

When I was growing up I had few friends and felt lonely at times.

[CropleyWasGod]

Encouraging news.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/11/02/health/psilocybin-magic-mushroom-depression-wellness/index.html

[Santa Cruz]

Encouraging news.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/11/02/health/psilocybin-magic-mushroom-depression-wellness/index.html

For anyone interested in learning more about this study, the topic will be discussed this coming Monday on ITV's This Morning show.

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

Benign compared to others posting here but need to share it somewhere

Struggled a bit recently. Started on the descent of a munro when my body started to shut down and I realised just how unfit I actually am.

Can't shake this negative feeling I have. And it's spanning across most elements of life. Mostly just that I'm "OK"

I'm an OK dad, my girls adore me bur I could be much better. I'm husband, I'm OK at my job but have become extremely lazy and procrastinate so much productivity is fallen off a cliff. I'm an OK son, I'm an OK mate.

I struggle with back pain and extremely low energy levels at times and really find it difficult to get motivated or move when it becomes sore. Dome physio and other treatment but mentally always struggle if something doesn't make improvements within a couple of weeks

Sorry for the rant, I don't think I'd do anything too rash, I love my kids far too much but it just really drains me to the point where I think, well what is the point?

[Stairway 2 7]

Benign compared to others posting here but need to share it somewhere

Struggled a bit recently. Started on the descent of a munro when my body started to shut down and I realised just how unfit I actually am.

Can't shake this negative feeling I have. And it's spanning across most elements of life. Mostly just that I'm "OK"

I'm an OK dad, my girls adore me bur I could be much better. I'm husband, I'm OK at my job but have become extremely lazy and procrastinate so much productivity is fallen off a cliff. I'm an OK son, I'm an OK mate.

I struggle with back pain and extremely low energy levels at times and really find it difficult to get motivated or move when it becomes sore. Dome physio and other treatment but mentally always struggle if something doesn't make improvements within a couple of weeks

Sorry for the rant, I don't think I'd do anything too rash, I love my kids far too much but it just really drains me to the point where I think, well what is the point?

You'll probably find that what you think is just OK is probably a high bar. The fact that you even got up a munro something that 90% probably couldn't do, shows that. It's probably a bit of an "it's a wonderful life" thing and you'd be surprised to find your kids, parents, partner, think you're a lot more than ok

[CropleyWasGod]

For anyone interested in learning more about this study, the topic will be discussed this coming Monday on ITV's This Morning show.

Did you watch it?

[Santa Cruz]

Did you watch it?

No, forgot about it. Will try to pick it up on catch up. It's not something I know anything about so would be interested to learn more. Personally find listening to discussions more interesting and easier to take in the info than reading reports. Did you happen to see it?

[CropleyWasGod]

No, forgot about it. Will try to pick it up on catch up. It's not something I know anything about so would be interested to learn more. Personally find listening to discussions more interesting and easier to take in the info than reading reports. Did you happen to see it?

I didn't.

I was wondering if anyone asked why the psilocybin was synthesised, and not natural.

We all probably know the answer. I was just curious as to how it would be explained.

[Antifa Hibs]

Not that i've been diagnosed with anything but i've been on this little quest to look after myself a bit more. Probably started when lockdown two happened when boredom had set in and too many bevvy's had been sunk and just carried on from there. Been feeling the benefits of it so just carried it on.

Two things I've started to "live-by" are minimalism and simple living.

Contrary to what I thought, minimalism isn't having nothing and isn't a fancy German kitchen or designer Swedish living room with no appliances in it, but keeping the things that add value to your life and letting go of the things that don't. For me, that was decluttering the house and wardrobes and selling or giving away what I didn't want. An ipad that gets used once a year for an hour on a holiday flight, that needed a separate charger and updates etc - gone. A lockdown bought Playstation that hasn't been switched on since lockdown - gone. Digital camera that hasn't been used in 5 years - gone. Clothes that don't fit/don't like/don't match - gone. A vanload of stuff from the attic/shed/cupboards - gone. Less clutter, less items that need maintained, less items that need replaced, its been very liberating which leads into the next one....

Simple living. Breaking the work and spend cycle, then working some more, earning more and spending more, then working some more yet, earning more again and spending it all. Obviously I work to pay the bills but I now try to live my life with as few complications as possible and try to do the things I enjoy.

One of the few positives of the pandemic was me losing my job. It paid ridiculously well but was only when I got out of it I began to realise how pressured it was and no amount of money could make me go back to it. The pandemic also made me re-evaluate my financial situation and I soon noticed how much money was being wasted. A scary amount on car re-payments, Sky, mobile phone, subscription services, designer clothes/watches/jewellery, holidays, fancy meals etc. I seen a meme which was along the lines of "We buy things we don't need with money we don't have to impress people we don't like" and I had 100% fallen into that trap. Sold and cancelled anything that I could, probably saved a salaries worth per month and its now goodbye 60 hour week and hello 35 hour week. Absolutely no stress at the job and no longer working into the evenings so can hit the gym or go a walk or cycle after work. Don't get that dread on a Sunday afternoon anymore so don't need to hit the Hugo Boss shop uptown for a dopamine hit and 8 pints. Getting out of the materialistic BS world I had found myself in has done wonders.

Some other steps i've taken to self-improvement along the way. Ditched 99% of social media - its toxic negative BS for me and havn't missed it in the slightest. I don't follow anyone I know personally and follow a dozen or so industry related twitter accounts for news and updates and thats it. Don't even have the app, just use the browser a couple of times per week for a few minutes at a time. Following on from that I no longer tune into the news or buy a daily paper. May buy a Sunday paper and go for a coffee twice a month and that's that. Like social media, TV or printed news is also generally depressing AF. Very rarely any good news stories. Things I had already done previously, unsubscribed to 99.9% of emails that hit my inbox and use an ad-blocker. These tools are used by companies to manipulate us into spending money on things we probably don't need. You soon get over the FOMO.

Some useful resources on what i've talked about above. The Minimalists (https://www.theminimalists.com/minimalism/)- Website, podcast, movie etc on minimalism. Simple Living (https://www.reddit.com/r/simpleliving/wiki/index/) - online community for simple living. Some easy recommended reading that touches both of these things. If you Google them you can then buy from a bookstore of your choosing or rent from library. "Hygge" - Danish way of living with contentment. "Lagom" - Swedish way of living with "not too much, not too little". Zen - book on simple living from top-selling Japanese author.

tl;dr - spending less, working less, reading more, exercising more and generally feeling better mentally and physically for it.

All the best everyone :aok:

[Santa Cruz]

Posting in the off chance this may be of interest. Debate about to begin after FMQ's today. I think a transcript of the discussion will go on the SP website, if not I imagine there is some way it could be watched back, like youtube or a social media channel.

Members' Business — S6M-05911 Emma Roddick: Mental Health Stigma in the WorkplaceThat the Parliament is concerned by what it sees as continued stigmatisation of mental health issues and those who experience them; considers that, while wider understanding of depression and anxiety is progressing, organisations such as the Royal College of Psychiatrists have noted a pervasive stigma relating to personality, dissociative, and psychosis-related disorders; understands that this stigma is particularly concentrated in the world of work, meaning that people with psychiatric conditions are less likely to be employed or remain so; notes efforts such as SeeMe Scotland’s See Me in Work scheme, which aim to support employers to tackle mental health discrimination; understands that a survey by SeeMe was explored in a recent report, Mental Health – Exploring the Current Landscape, published by Centred, a mental health charity based in the Highlands of Scotland, which showed around half of people believe someone would not disclose a mental illness at work for fear of adverse effects on their employment; considers that this report contains valuable research around stigma, rural mental health, and the overall situation in Scotland; further notes the belief that this demonstrates that more work needs to be done by employers, public health agencies and government to tackle mental health stigma, and notes the calls for these issues to be addressed in the new Scottish Government Mental Health Strategy.

[Santa Cruz]

following from my post above, the link provides a list of organisations to contact for advice/support for a wide range of mental health conditions. Includes a Range of Information, Self-help, Empowerment and Self- Advocacy Websites and Apps.

https://www.seemescotland.org/media/9721/see-me-national-signposting-directory-final_rl_170119.pdf

[CropleyWasGod]

Anxiety, of any and all kinds, gets off to an earlier start every year. Discuss.

http://ow.ly/r1t950Lo2Gz

[Santa Cruz]

Anxiety, of any and all kinds, gets off to an earlier start every year. Discuss.

http://ow.ly/r1t950Lo2Gz


Thanks for posting this. I was wondering if anyone had experience of using hypnotherapy and how it worked out for them.

[CropleyWasGod]

Thanks for posting this. I was wondering if anyone had experience of using hypnotherapy and how it worked out for them.

You could ask my clients 😀

[AgentDaleCooper]

Anyone else on here riddle with health anxiety? it's gash :aok:

[Santa Cruz]

Anyone else on here riddle with health anxiety? it's gash :aok:

Yip and agree.

[Keyser Sauzee]

Anyone else on here riddle with health anxiety? it's gash :aok:

Daily

[WhileTheChief..]

Thanks for posting this. I was wondering if anyone had experience of using hypnotherapy and how it worked out for them.

I tried it to stop smoking many years ago. Didn't work at all and felt like a scam.

I spent a fiver on Allen Carr's Easy Way to Stop Smoking. Best money I ever spent. Guy was a genius.

If anyone is serious about quitting, read it. If you know a smoker, buy it for them for Xmas.

It really works.

[WhileTheChief..]

tl;dr - spending less, working less, reading more, exercising more and generally feeling better mentally and physically for it.

All the best everyone :aok:

What a fantastic post. Really enjoyed reading that as I could relate to so much of it.

I made similar changes this year although not to the same extent. Feels good.

[wookie70]

Benign compared to others posting here but need to share it somewhere

Struggled a bit recently. Started on the descent of a munro when my body started to shut down and I realised just how unfit I actually am.

Can't shake this negative feeling I have. And it's spanning across most elements of life. Mostly just that I'm "OK"

I'm an OK dad, my girls adore me bur I could be much better. I'm husband, I'm OK at my job but have become extremely lazy and procrastinate so much productivity is fallen off a cliff. I'm an OK son, I'm an OK mate.

I struggle with back pain and extremely low energy levels at times and really find it difficult to get motivated or move when it becomes sore. Dome physio and other treatment but mentally always struggle if something doesn't make improvements within a couple of weeks

Sorry for the rant, I don't think I'd do anything too rash, I love my kids far too much but it just really drains me to the point where I think, well what is the point?

I suffer from quite similar feelings and quite a bit of your post rings true for me. My mate told me about a condition called imposter syndrome. When I read about it I would say I fitted quite a fair few of the descriptions. I had some counselling through my work pre covid and part of the discussion was around me not engaging with things unless I thought I could do them perfectly. Another way of looking at that would be to say that OK, for me, was not enough. That is of course not true and OK is nearly always enough and is often far better than OK from another perspective. I quite often think back to those counselling sessions and remind myself to not beat myself up so hard, don't worry if it never turned out exactly as you hoped and generally try to like yourself a bit more. I listen to myself more often than not these days but when I was struggling that counsellor made a big difference in a short time to my mental health.

The fitness part is something worth considering. When lockdown happened I did Couch to 5 K and loads of walking and gardening etc. I lost 2 stone and was the fittest I had been in years. All of a sudden my mental health issues disappeared. Unfortunately, they all came back, with the belly, when I returned to work. I know that where I work makes me unwell. It is a decent job on decent pay but I loath working there and feel trapped financially. No fault of that is my employers by the way just 30 odd years of me not liking what I do and beating myself up for not having the courage to leave. I'll suffer it for a few years and then retirement options and a more positive future will hopefully be within grasp.

Your paragraph around being an OK Dad, Son and parent is exactly how I feel about myself. The thing is that there are many roles there and if you are doing OK in them all that is a pretty decent accomplishment in itself. I suggest that your girls love for you says you are doing far better in the parenting stakes than OK. Hope you feel better soon and thanks for your post. It is always helpful to know that you aren't in a wee bubble and the thoughts you have are shared by others.

[CropleyWasGod]

For those of you who struggle with SAD, Happy Solstice. The days get longer from here on in :)

[Green Man]

For those of you who struggle with SAD, Happy Solstice. The days get longer from here on in :)

One of my favourite days of the year. I hate how early night falls at the moment so it’s always nice to see that time getting a wee bit later each day until we reach the point where it’s still daylight when I finish work.

[CropleyWasGod]

One of my favourite days of the year. I hate how early night falls at the moment so it’s always nice to see that time getting a wee bit later each day until we reach the point where it’s still daylight when I finish work.

😀

Possibly for another thread, but for me today is a big part of what my Christmas is about.

[Sylar]

😀

Possibly for another thread, but for me today is a big part of what my Christmas is about.

I'm the same - I feel I've almost become pagan in my ageing years, as that celebration of a return to the light is most welcome.

I personally can't wait to see the back of Christmas - don't get me wrong, I'll enjoy seeing the children enjoy it all, but I can't quite stomach all of the expectation and pressure to be 'on'.

[grunt]

I'm the same - I feel I've almost become pagan in my ageing years, as that celebration of a return to the light is most welcome.
Checks age in profile ...

I've got tins of soup older than you!

[CropleyWasGod]

I'm the same - I feel I've almost become pagan in my ageing years, as that celebration of a return to the light is most welcome.

I personally can't wait to see the back of Christmas - don't get me wrong, I'll enjoy seeing the children enjoy it all, but I can't quite stomach all of the expectation and pressure to be 'on'.

As one of my favourite memes at this time of year puts it....

Get naked, drink mead and party like a pagan, because queuing at Argos is just bollocks.

[Itsnoteasy]

One of my best mates just found in Holyrood Park. Robert Corner 50 year old. Suspected suicide. No signs what so ever. Good Hibby. Would give you his last £.


Lying in my bed numb & heartbroken

[DaveF]

One of my best mates just found in Holyrood Park. Robert Corner 50 year old. Suspected suicide. No signs what so ever. Good Hibby. Would give you his last £.


Lying in my bed numb & heartbroken

It's absolutely devastating. As you said, he was one of life's good guys and it's difficult to take this in 😪

[Santa Cruz]

One of my best mates just found in Holyrood Park. Robert Corner 50 year old. Suspected suicide. No signs what so ever. Good Hibby. Would give you his last £.


Lying in my bed numb & heartbroken

I found out earlier. I grew up with Robert, he helped me many times. Sometimes he didn't even know, he could just make me laugh, he had that ability to light up a room. I don't trust many people, but would have trusted him with my life. I'm absolutely devestated. Heartbroken for his family.

[stu in nottingham]

Such sad news to read here today. My condolences to Robert's family and friends and all who knew him, so tragic. God bless him.

If anyone should need someone to talk to about Robert. I am here.

Rest in Peace lad.

[Itsnoteasy]

Such sad news to read here today. My condolences to Robert's family and friends and all who knew him, so tragic. God bless him.

If anyone should need someone to talk to about Robert. I am here.

Rest in Peace lad.

That's so kind of you. What I can't understand is someone showing no signs of mental health, money worries or health issues can do this. He was at the Livi game, went for a pint with one of our other mates. Walked his dog on boxing day with Davey F brother. Then never to be seen again.

[stu in nottingham]

That's so kind of you. What I can't understand is someone showing no signs of mental health, money worries or health issues can do this. He was at the Livi game, went for a pint with one of our other mates. Walked his dog on boxing day with Davey F brother. Then never to be seen again.

It can be so difficult to understand, I know. It helps to know that people who take their own life do not necessarily want to die. I know that sounds contradictory but the vast majority of people just want the feelings they're having to stop or they want their situation to change as they are not coping with it and suicide presents itself as a 'solution'.

Some, but by no means all, have struggled with their mental health but felt unable to talk about it. People don't always show signs of their suicidal feelings and it can be difficult to spot.

I'm very sorry for the loss of your friend.

Look after each other folks.

[Itsnoteasy]

Went to see his wife of 25 years last night. Very difficult but glad I done it.

R.I.P Rab

[LewysGot2]

A tough time of year for a lot of people. The need to engage with the propaganda of this supposedly being the most wonderful time of the year is stressful for many. Finances, social anxiety, relationship strains, dark days, long nights and miserable weather meet our national fixation with alcohol. Its little wonder many just don't cope.

Sorry for your loss 🙏

[LustForLeith]

The Changing Room is back at Hibernian Community Foundation for 2023!

Last season’s highlights include a drop-in by John ‘Yogi’ Hughes who spoke honestly about his life and career in Scottish football

We'd love for you to join us. Simply drop us an email at [email protected]

It’s free, safe, confidential and gives men the chance to tackle their mental health through football

[Santa Cruz]

The Changing Room is back at Hibernian Community Foundation for 2023!

Last season’s highlights include a drop-in by John ‘Yogi’ Hughes who spoke honestly about his life and career in Scottish football

We'd love for you to join us. Simply drop us an email at [email protected]

It’s free, safe, confidential and gives men the chance to tackle their mental health through football

I think this is a great service you provide. I'd imagine having someone relatable like Yogi popping in maybe provided a temporary but welcome distraction for the group, hopefully provided a few wee laughs at appropriate moments too.

I often hear more about men's mental health struggles being promoted (presuming here with nothing to base it on) is this is because there's an assumption female's are more inclined to talk openly? Just curious, was wondering if you knew.

[Stairway 2 7]

I think this is a great service you provide. I'd imagine having someone relatable like Yogi popping in maybe provided a temporary but welcome distraction for the group, hopefully provided a few wee laughs at appropriate moments too.

I often hear more about men's mental health struggles being promoted (presuming here with nothing to base it on) is this is because there's an assumption female's are more inclined to talk openly? Just curious, was wondering if you knew.

Might be because males are 3 to 4 times more likely to commit suicide, but that's a guess. You could be right that traditionally men don't talk as much, all this "man up" pish is toxic. Hopefully things are changing, but I'd read suicides were up a good amount last year sadly

[Itsnoteasy]

Might be because males are 3 to 4 times more likely to commit suicide, but that's a guess. You could be right that traditionally men don't talk as much, all this "man up" pish is toxic. Hopefully things are changing, but I'd read suicides were up a good amount last year sadly

Suicide is the biggest killer of men under 50s.

[stu in nottingham]

According to data published by Samaritans, 2021 figures for England showed a 10.5 per 100,000 suicide rate as compared to 10.0 in 2020 and 10.8 in 2019. By gender, males were 15.8 and females 5.5 in 2021. The most at-risk group were males 50-54 at 22.5 per 100.000.

By comparison, Scotland's figures indicated an overall suicide rate in 2021 of 14.0 per 100,000 despite a drop from the previous year. Gender differences are similar to England but with an upward trend for female suicides.

The leading cause of suicide is considered to be untreated depression whilst reticence in talking is undoubtedly an exacerbating factor for greater completed male suicides.

Risk factors are many and disparate. Some of these are, substance use, family history of suicide, experiencing others' suicidal behaviour, physical or sexual abuse, deprivation and chronic pain.


The Changing Room is back at Hibernian Community Foundation for 2023!

Last season’s highlights include a drop-in by John ‘Yogi’ Hughes who spoke honestly about his life and career in Scottish football

We'd love for you to join us. Simply drop us an email at [email protected]

It’s free, safe, confidential and gives men the chance to tackle their mental health through football

Fantastic stuff, proud of you all mate. If you ever need a hand just shout. :aok:

[Santa Cruz]

Thanks for info. Found a breakdown of the latest stats (2021) for Scotland.

https://www.scotpho.org.uk/health-wellbeing-and-disease/suicide/key-points/

[stu in nottingham]

Thanks for info. Found a breakdown of the latest stats (2021) for Scotland.

https://www.scotpho.org.uk/health-wellbeing-and-disease/suicide/key-points/

Thanks SC, that's also the source Samaritans gave their report for Scotland from. They pose many questions.

[hibsbollah]

Worry a read as to why such an on the surface pointless activity gives us emotional balance.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/jan/11/football-precious-space-people-express-emotions-build-relationships-mental-health

[DaveF]

I found out earlier. I grew up with Robert, he helped me many times. Sometimes he didn't even know, he could just make me laugh, he had that ability to light up a room. I don't trust many people, but would have trusted him with my life. I'm absolutely devestated. Heartbroken for his family.

FYI.

The funeral is at Morton hall on Friday 3rd February at 2pm.

[Santa Cruz]

FYI.

The funeral is at Morton hall on Friday 3rd February at 2pm.

Thanks Dave. Unfortunately due to personal health circumstances I won't be able to manage Robert's funeral.

Went to church, lit a candle, said a wee prayer. Did the same for his Dad when he passed away. Robert told me it meant a lot to him, so I tried to take comfort from that. Neither of us kept up going to Mass from since we were younger, but I feel a calmness when I go. I don't sit for the service, just light candles, say prayers for others and leave.

I've been thinking of him often, come on here to distract my mind doing word games etc. I'm sure the family will make the funeral a lovely celebration of his life for him. He will be sorely missed. I'll never forget him. May he RIP.

[DaveF]

Thanks Dave. Unfortunately due to personal health circumstances I won't be able to manage Robert's funeral.

Went to church, lit a candle, said a wee prayer. Did the same for his Dad when he passed away. Robert told me it meant a lot to him, so I tried to take comfort from that. Neither of us kept up going to Mass from since we were younger, but I feel a calmness when I go. I don't sit for the service, just light candles, say prayers for others and leave.

I've been thinking of him often, come on here to distract my mind doing word games etc. I'm sure the family will make the funeral a lovely celebration of his life for him. He will be sorely missed. I'll never forget him. May he RIP.

I don't know you, but thank you. Very kind words.

[Itsnoteasy]

I found out earlier. I grew up with Robert, he helped me many times. Sometimes he didn't even know, he could just make me laugh, he had that ability to light up a room. I don't trust many people, but would have trusted him with my life. I'm absolutely devestated. Heartbroken for his family.

Rab didn't realise how many people loved & cared for him. Your not the only one to have trusted him with your life. Such a humble guy.
I never even felt like this when my dad passed away. I am heartbroken.

R I P My Bonnie Laddie
I will miss you forever

[CropleyWasGod]

Just listened to this podcast, which talks about regulating cortisol levels in order to control stress and anxiety.

https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5tZWdhcGhvbmUuZm0vaHViZXJtYW5sYW I/episode/NmEwYzg1YmUtOTIxNC0xMWVkLTlhYTctOTdlOWY0MzY4Njc1?e p=14

I was particularly interested in what he says about ashwagandha, which I use regularly. Turns out I might be better taking twice as much as I do :)

Anyone any experience with it?

[CropleyWasGod]

I know that some on here are interested in the use of psychedelics in dealing with mental health issues.

A friend of mine has arranged this event, to discuss exactly that, with a Parliamentary event immediately afterwards.

https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/psychedelics-in-scotland-the-future-of-mental-health-tickets-512018159097

[Stairway 2 7]

Pretty interesting data from life satisfaction survey depending on age. It's really downhill after your teens. But I'm surprised how awesome post 60yo is, can't wait.

Although I'm sure when my generation get there their will be hardly a government pension and half my peers won't have the satisfaction of a paid of mortgage.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ACJSissons/status/1617118964710006784

[Hiber-nation]

Pretty interesting data from life satisfaction survey depending on age. It's really downhill after your teens. But I'm surprised how awesome post 60yo is, can't wait.

Although I'm sure when my generation get there their will be hardly a government pension and half my peers won't have the satisfaction of a paid of mortgage.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ACJSissons/status/1617118964710006784

That's surprising. There's a lot to be said for being over 60, retired and having a supposedly stress-free life but that's not the reality for me and most of my mates. It's pretty frustrating either not being able to do or not actually wanting to do a lot of the things that you loved doing when you were younger.

[TrumpIsAPeado]

It's pretty frustrating either not being able to do or not actually wanting to do a lot of the things that you loved doing when you were younger.

I'm half your age and I've been there for a good 15 years or so. My cynical nature has really turned me against the world for the most part.

[LustForLeith]

There’s a changing room drop in this Monday. A chance for people to tackle their mental health through football

Famous five stand at 6. It’s safe, confidential and free

See you there 👍

[Lendo]

It’s an insignificance in the grand scheme of things really, but I’m curious, how much does a Hibs win change your mood for the week ahead?

[surreyhibbie]

It’s an insignificance in the grand scheme of things really, but I’m curious, how much does a Hibs win change your mood for the week ahead?

Makes a massive difference to me personally.

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

It’s an insignificance in the grand scheme of things really, but I’m curious, how much does a Hibs win change your mood for the week ahead?

It helps me through a weekend, by Tuesday that effect has worn off almost completely though


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[Smartie]

It’s an insignificance in the grand scheme of things really, but I’m curious, how much does a Hibs win change your mood for the week ahead?

More than I think is healthy.

[stu in nottingham]

It doesn’t really change my mood in any significant way. I take a little lift on a Saturday night out with friends after a good result but I quickly forget the losses. I suppose it’s all about living with acceptance and I’ve long learned how to deal with the vagaries of the Hibs in that way.

I wouldn’t at all trivialise it though. I can absolutely understand how it can trigger darker moods for some.

[Hiber-nation]

It’s an insignificance in the grand scheme of things really, but I’m curious, how much does a Hibs win change your mood for the week ahead?

It's great but it makes me more stressed for the next game!

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

It’s an insignificance in the grand scheme of things really, but I’m curious, how much does a Hibs win change your mood for the week ahead?

A win (or a loss for that matter) doesn't influence my mood so much now than it used to, it's probably much better for me in the long run.

[Just_Jimmy]

It’s an insignificance in the grand scheme of things really, but I’m curious, how much does a Hibs win change your mood for the week ahead?It depends on the context tbh. Sometimes it's hard to shake a defeat. A win makes me feel better but not a huge high.

I really wish I didn't care about football or Hibs, I'd be healthier for it.

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[Bridge hibs]

I need hibs in some shape or form in my life, they have been a part of it longer than my marriage or or my Daughters. Hibs were part of my social circle whereas win we can rejoice over a few beers, lose we can drown our sorrows over a few beers. That was it, it was over and done with on a Saturday and then onto the next Saturday for more

That was then

Nowadays I dont go out drinking so have lost a lot of my social circle, but that said we are all older and wiser. Hibs piss me off now and then but they just have that habit of making things seem so perfect, the Scottish cup win being a prime example

Anxiety though, thats on a different plane, hibs do nothing to trigger that, unfortunately thats a wee thing called life and it just throws a curve ball now and then

[LustForLeith]

It’s an insignificance in the grand scheme of things really, but I’m curious, how much does a Hibs win change your mood for the week ahead?

I try not to let it get to me.

I struggle to worry about things within my control. Never mind Hibs!

[LewysGot2]

It’s an insignificance in the grand scheme of things really, but I’m curious, how much does a Hibs win change your mood for the week ahead?

It absolutely impacts on how I feel. And I embrace the positive impact when we win. What I've learned to do as I've got older is not let defeats impact too negatively.

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

Does anyone else suffer from sporadic bouts of insomnia? Been having a torrid time with it recently, cannot get a wink of sleep no matter what I try.


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[Liam89]

Anyone else get frustrated at relapsing from their anxiety?

Feel like the time between my bouts of anxiety are becoming shorter and shorter. Used to go through a few periods a year but the last few years it's been a cycle of anxiety-recovery-relapse-anxiety, I find a new coping mechanism or technique that works, gives me a few weeks of peace and then I end up back to square one.

Also feels like I need to keep up a perfect routine to live without it, if I stop exercising for a few days or if I'm working (remote) and don't leave the house one day it bubbles up and spills over.

It's the physical manifestation of symptoms that's the ruiner, dizziness / nausea / derealisation sucks the joy out of life when you're doing activities or at an event you want to be enjoying.

I've got holiday's coming up this year which instead of looking forward to I'm just worrying about whether I'll actually enjoy them or not or be stuck in my own head.

I need to remind myself it's not all bad, I go through plenty periods of calm and happiness and many are far worse off but it just wears you down.

[Berwickhibby]

Does anyone else suffer from sporadic bouts of insomnia? Been having a torrid time with it recently, cannot get a wink of sleep no matter what I try.


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Speak with your Dr, I also suffer with insomnia and got prescribed zopiclone which I will take when it gets really bad. They work and really help you sleep.

[TrumpIsAPeado]

Does anyone else suffer from sporadic bouts of insomnia? Been having a torrid time with it recently, cannot get a wink of sleep no matter what I try.

It's absolutely horrible. Just last year I went about 6 months with next to no sleep at all due to a protracted Benzodiazepine withdrawal, I was losing all grip on reality. Even although I sleep more now, I go through bouts of fragmented sleep where i'll wake up every 20-40 minutes, sometimes in a bit of a panic.

I've found that making sure I get an adequate amount of Magnesium in my diet each day has helped. Not just with insomnia, but with anxiety and depression as well.

Hope your bout comes to an end soon (assuming you're currently experiencing one).

[Stairway 2 7]

Liked this from Nick on choosing hope rather than despair. Some people say a break from social media is good for the mind as its constant doom porn. Perhaps the Holy ground is similar. Most threads are just constant doom, bad news and criticism of people and parties (merited mostly but none the less). Life outside is definitely more positive and beautiful. We're surrounded by beautiful parks in Edinburgh, they get you away from the potholes apparently

https://mobile.twitter.com/Cox_A_R/status/1625419056437133313

[Smartie]

Liked this from Nick on choosing hope rather than despair. Some people say a break from social media is good for the mind as its constant doom porn. Perhaps the Holy ground is similar. Most threads are just constant doom, bad news and criticism of people and parties (merited mostly but none the less). Life outside is definitely more positive and beautiful. We're surrounded by beautiful parks in Edinburgh, they get you away from the potholes apparently

https://mobile.twitter.com/Cox_A_R/status/1625419056437133313

I must admit - there are people, subjects, activities and places that if I avoid them I quickly become immeasurably better whilst if I do the opposite, the opposite is true.

If only it was easy to make the right choices.

[Stairway 2 7]

I must admit - there are people, subjects, anctivities and places that if I avoid them I quickly become immeasurably better whilst if I do the opposite, the opposite is true.

If only it was easy to make the right choices.

The way the world is its admittedly impossible, but I'm certainly guilty of picking up the phone more than is helpful

[Bridge hibs]

Interesting read - Back Onside charity & how they helped hibs fan Calum Peat, Ive copied & pasted the full story rather than the link

Calum peat

Calum Peat was in hospital due to mental health problems when Libby Emmerson, founder of Back Onside, reached out. 3 years later, he is in a much better place thanks to the charity, his family and a special football club close to his heart.

He said: “It was Libby who basically rescued me. In December 2018, I was hospitalised in the Isle of Man and I was tweeting stuff about Hibernian.

“On New Years Day, Libby found one of my posts and reached out to me. I’ve been in contact with her almost everyday since then but I had no idea about the charity until she messaged me.

“She was alerted by one tweet but looked through them all and she could see I’d been in hospital with mental health issues. She sent me a private message before calling me the next and within two weeks she visited me on the Isle of Man. She goes above and beyond to help people.

“She visited me in hospital on the Island and when I was moved to Essex in March 2019, she still came down to visit. She’s not just been a huge help to me but also my family. I often think that it’s too good to be true because the amount of time and effort she’s invested in me is truly amazing.

Despite moving to the Isle of Man before his second birthday, Calum is proud of his Scottish heritage and remains obsessed with a football club based in the city of his birth, Edinburgh. Hibernian Football Club holds a very special place in Callum’s heart.

On the 21st of May 2016 at Hampden Park, the scene of the club’s most memorable win in recent history, jubilant Hibees blasted out the iconic “Sunshine on Leith” after winning their first Scottish Cup in 114 years.

The Proclaimers anthem, now synonymous with the club, resonates with Calum. Easter Road can be a sanctuary, a place where a fan can escape the troubles and pressures of life for 90 minutes.

Hibs played an important role in Calum’s life and, knowing this, Libby arranged for two of his heroes to get in touch. Although neither still patrolled the dugout in Leith, Neil Lennon and Alan Stubbs both took the time to pick up the phone and the impact those conversations had on his recovery is immeasurable.

“Libby knew how much I loved Hibs so she passed on my number to Stubbs. It didn’t seem real at the time, speaking to someone you class as a legend but he said he was just doing his job.

“We spoke for about 45 minutes and he was asking about my life. We discussed the Scottish Cup final win and I quizzed him on the starting eleven and the substitutes he brought on. He managed to get them all correct except from Niklas Gunnarsson, who came on as a sub.

“Neil gets a bad reputation from people but they don’t appreciate how much he does for mental health charities. He was out a walk and spoke to me about Hibs but we talked about mental health more.

We were discussing how the illness doesn’t discriminate. You can suffer from it no matter how successful you are or how much money you’ve got. It gives you hope that you can get help if you reach out and speak to people which can be the hardest thing to do.” Peat, added.

The club also helped when they offered him the chance to become co-commentator alongside Cliff Pike for the Scottish Premiership clash against Hamilton.

He said: “Cliff reached out and encouraged me to get in touch once I was out of hospital. He said to come to Easter Road and he’d take be to the commentary booth.

“I thought he might have just been saying that to make me feel better but I’m so grateful that he kept his word.I had no idea that I’d be on duties, I thought I’d just be standing there and listening in.

It was such a good day. We went behind but eventually won and although it was a cold night, it was worth it. I was very nervous about doing it but Cliff made it so easy for me, it was like I was just having a chat to a friend. It’s hard not to be too biased on commentary, you couldn’t see me celebrating the winner but you could probably hear it.

A lots of Hibs fans follow me on twitter and they got in touch with me to say I was amazing. It was nice to get those well wishes.

The opportunity arose just two months after Calum was discharged from hospital. He had returned to Scotland to spend time with his two families; football and blood – of which he now includes Libby.

“People think that it’s only football but it’s so much more than that. You spend a lot of money following them week in and week out which can be difficult especially when they get beat most of the time.

“When they first replied to me on twitter, I thought that was the best thing that could ever happen. That led to strangers messaging me and wishing me all the best.

“If you don’t have charities like Back Onside then suicide rates would be through the roof. If you can get donations, no matter the amount, then it’s a massive help to Libby. She deserves it so they can provide the support that people deserve.

I can’t put into words what Libby has done for me, I’ll never be able to repay her. She’s part of my family now, she stayed with my parents when she visited and joined in all the shenanigans. My parents supported her on the Kiltwalk to raise money for Back Onside,” expressed, Peat.

Calum has been discharged for almost three months now and is enjoying the freedom of living in his own place for the first time. Living closer to his family has eased that transition and he appreciates how beneficial a good relationship with family can be for your mental health.

He said: “All my family are up here whether that be in Livingston or Ayrshire and my mum, dad and sister are in the Isle of Man.

“When I was in hospital in Essex, I was the only patient who got any visitors. There was a fellow patient whose family lived just five minutes away and they never visited. It puts it into perspective just how lucky I am to have my family around me.

“I don’t know where I’d be without my mum and dad. They struggled with it, we had family therapy which was difficult at times. It was tough on them but they still got the boat over to Liverpool and travelled down to Essex every fortnight.

“My parents are concerned about me during lockdown but I’m in a better place now as before I wouldn’t want to worry them. I didn’t want to upset them but now it’s easier to talk to them, I can tell them anything.”

Calum can’t comprehend the extent of Libby’s support and she’s helped put him in touch with more of his Hibernian heroes.

“Tam McManus messaged me and said I could grab a pint with him whenever. With no football currently it’s difficult to do that but I’d love to take him up on his offer one day.

He was part of one of our best teams in recent years when all the young players broke through. We were the best team in Scotland outside the Old Firm and he was a cracking player.

Marvin Bartley called while he was still at Hibernian and he was a proper nice guy. We’ve kept in touch on social media although it’s a shame that he’s left the club now ” Peat, concluded.

Opening up and admitting you’re struggling with your mental health can be the most difficult part of the journey to recovery. People can be empowered by seeing their footballing heroes break the stigma of mental health. After all, it’s more than just a game.

[CropleyWasGod]

I know that some on here are interested in the use of psychedelics in dealing with mental health issues.

A friend of mine has arranged this event, to discuss exactly that, with a Parliamentary event immediately afterwards.

https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/psychedelics-in-scotland-the-future-of-mental-health-tickets-512018159097

Just bumping this event, which is on this coming Wednesday.

[hibsbollah]

I listened to this this morning, very interesting and the Scottish approach to multi agency working to prevent suicide seems very positive.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001jsk0?partner=uk.co.bbc&origin=share-mobile

[Santa Cruz]

I listened to this this morning, very interesting and the Scottish approach to multi agency working to prevent suicide seems very positive.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001jsk0?partner=uk.co.bbc&origin=share-mobile

I listened to this the other night. I forgot to reply earlier my thanks for posting it, it helped me understand something I hadn't picked up on before.

[hibsbollah]

I listened to this the other night. I forgot to reply earlier my thanks for posting it, it helped me understand something I hadn't picked up on before.

:aok:

The thing I took from it is, when dealing with someone who is dealing with suicidal thoughts, avoiding the subject out of fear it will ‘give them ideas’, is misguided. Ask if you think someone needs help.

[LustForLeith]

Hey folks

Just to say the next drop in for the Changing Room is Monday at 6pm. We’re meeting at the Famous Five stand.

For men looking to tackle their mental health through football and Hibs. It’s safe, confidential and free.

See you there 💚

[JimBHibees]

Interesting read - Back Onside charity & how they helped hibs fan Calum Peat, Ive copied & pasted the full story rather than the link

Calum peat

Calum Peat was in hospital due to mental health problems when Libby Emmerson, founder of Back Onside, reached out. 3 years later, he is in a much better place thanks to the charity, his family and a special football club close to his heart.

He said: “It was Libby who basically rescued me. In December 2018, I was hospitalised in the Isle of Man and I was tweeting stuff about Hibernian.

“On New Years Day, Libby found one of my posts and reached out to me. I’ve been in contact with her almost everyday since then but I had no idea about the charity until she messaged me.

“She was alerted by one tweet but looked through them all and she could see I’d been in hospital with mental health issues. She sent me a private message before calling me the next and within two weeks she visited me on the Isle of Man. She goes above and beyond to help people.

“She visited me in hospital on the Island and when I was moved to Essex in March 2019, she still came down to visit. She’s not just been a huge help to me but also my family. I often think that it’s too good to be true because the amount of time and effort she’s invested in me is truly amazing.

Despite moving to the Isle of Man before his second birthday, Calum is proud of his Scottish heritage and remains obsessed with a football club based in the city of his birth, Edinburgh. Hibernian Football Club holds a very special place in Callum’s heart.

On the 21st of May 2016 at Hampden Park, the scene of the club’s most memorable win in recent history, jubilant Hibees blasted out the iconic “Sunshine on Leith” after winning their first Scottish Cup in 114 years.

The Proclaimers anthem, now synonymous with the club, resonates with Calum. Easter Road can be a sanctuary, a place where a fan can escape the troubles and pressures of life for 90 minutes.

Hibs played an important role in Calum’s life and, knowing this, Libby arranged for two of his heroes to get in touch. Although neither still patrolled the dugout in Leith, Neil Lennon and Alan Stubbs both took the time to pick up the phone and the impact those conversations had on his recovery is immeasurable.

“Libby knew how much I loved Hibs so she passed on my number to Stubbs. It didn’t seem real at the time, speaking to someone you class as a legend but he said he was just doing his job.

“We spoke for about 45 minutes and he was asking about my life. We discussed the Scottish Cup final win and I quizzed him on the starting eleven and the substitutes he brought on. He managed to get them all correct except from Niklas Gunnarsson, who came on as a sub.

“Neil gets a bad reputation from people but they don’t appreciate how much he does for mental health charities. He was out a walk and spoke to me about Hibs but we talked about mental health more.

We were discussing how the illness doesn’t discriminate. You can suffer from it no matter how successful you are or how much money you’ve got. It gives you hope that you can get help if you reach out and speak to people which can be the hardest thing to do.” Peat, added.

The club also helped when they offered him the chance to become co-commentator alongside Cliff Pike for the Scottish Premiership clash against Hamilton.

He said: “Cliff reached out and encouraged me to get in touch once I was out of hospital. He said to come to Easter Road and he’d take be to the commentary booth.

“I thought he might have just been saying that to make me feel better but I’m so grateful that he kept his word.I had no idea that I’d be on duties, I thought I’d just be standing there and listening in.

It was such a good day. We went behind but eventually won and although it was a cold night, it was worth it. I was very nervous about doing it but Cliff made it so easy for me, it was like I was just having a chat to a friend. It’s hard not to be too biased on commentary, you couldn’t see me celebrating the winner but you could probably hear it.

A lots of Hibs fans follow me on twitter and they got in touch with me to say I was amazing. It was nice to get those well wishes.

The opportunity arose just two months after Calum was discharged from hospital. He had returned to Scotland to spend time with his two families; football and blood – of which he now includes Libby.

“People think that it’s only football but it’s so much more than that. You spend a lot of money following them week in and week out which can be difficult especially when they get beat most of the time.

“When they first replied to me on twitter, I thought that was the best thing that could ever happen. That led to strangers messaging me and wishing me all the best.

“If you don’t have charities like Back Onside then suicide rates would be through the roof. If you can get donations, no matter the amount, then it’s a massive help to Libby. She deserves it so they can provide the support that people deserve.

I can’t put into words what Libby has done for me, I’ll never be able to repay her. She’s part of my family now, she stayed with my parents when she visited and joined in all the shenanigans. My parents supported her on the Kiltwalk to raise money for Back Onside,” expressed, Peat.

Calum has been discharged for almost three months now and is enjoying the freedom of living in his own place for the first time. Living closer to his family has eased that transition and he appreciates how beneficial a good relationship with family can be for your mental health.

He said: “All my family are up here whether that be in Livingston or Ayrshire and my mum, dad and sister are in the Isle of Man.

“When I was in hospital in Essex, I was the only patient who got any visitors. There was a fellow patient whose family lived just five minutes away and they never visited. It puts it into perspective just how lucky I am to have my family around me.

“I don’t know where I’d be without my mum and dad. They struggled with it, we had family therapy which was difficult at times. It was tough on them but they still got the boat over to Liverpool and travelled down to Essex every fortnight.

“My parents are concerned about me during lockdown but I’m in a better place now as before I wouldn’t want to worry them. I didn’t want to upset them but now it’s easier to talk to them, I can tell them anything.”

Calum can’t comprehend the extent of Libby’s support and she’s helped put him in touch with more of his Hibernian heroes.

“Tam McManus messaged me and said I could grab a pint with him whenever. With no football currently it’s difficult to do that but I’d love to take him up on his offer one day.

He was part of one of our best teams in recent years when all the young players broke through. We were the best team in Scotland outside the Old Firm and he was a cracking player.

Marvin Bartley called while he was still at Hibernian and he was a proper nice guy. We’ve kept in touch on social media although it’s a shame that he’s left the club now ” Peat, concluded.

Opening up and admitting you’re struggling with your mental health can be the most difficult part of the journey to recovery. People can be empowered by seeing their footballing heroes break the stigma of mental health. After all, it’s more than just a game.

Thanks for sharing that. Amazing the lengths that Libby went to provide amazing support.

[Hibernian Verse]

I started reading "The Happiness Trap" by Russ Harris this week and I'm finding it very useful a couple of chapters in.

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

How's everyone doing? A good week weather wise always lifts the spirits

I've been struggling a lot recently. Never really getting to the bottom of my symptoms or finding anything that boosts my energy levels or concentrates my mind

Something I've explored over the last week or so is ADHD. And when I reflect on my youth and time in school it makes so much sense.

Frustratingly there's only a private route so looking at funding options for that now. Just wondering if ahyone else ever presented symptoms of depression and anxiety but actually uncovered another condition?

[Keith_M]

How's everyone doing? A good week weather wise always lifts the spirits

I've been struggling a lot recently. Never really getting to the bottom of my symptoms or finding anything that boosts my energy levels or concentrates my mind

Something I've explored over the last week or so is ADHD. And when I reflect on my youth and time in school it makes so much sense.

Frustratingly there's only a private route so looking at funding options for that now. Just wondering if ahyone else ever presented symptoms of depression and anxiety but actually uncovered another condition?


Struggling a bit just now, TBH, mostly due to turmoil at work.

I work for a small company and we've had a number of resignations due to the mad behaviour of the owner, plus the fact we're continually paid late (I'm now waiting for both April and May salary).

Unfortunately, the people leaving have been replaced with talentless 'yes men', which empowers the bullying behaviour of the CEO. I've spent the last few weeks trying to defend my younger, more timid colleagues from this pr1ck but it gets you down after a while.

I realise people are going through a lot worse than I am, though.

[stu in nottingham]

Struggling a bit just now, TBH, mostly due to turmoil at work.

I work for a small company and we've had a number of resignations due to the mad behaviour of the owner, plus the fact we're continually paid late (I'm now waiting for both April and May salary).

Unfortunately, the people leaving have been replaced with talentless 'yes men', which empowers the bullying behaviour of the CEO. I've spent the last few weeks trying to defend my younger, more timid colleagues from this pr1ck but it gets you down after a while.

I realise people are going through a lot worse than I am, though.

Sorry to hear about what you're going through Keith.That must be incredibly stressful, the non-payment of wages in particular and I hope you're managing. I reckon a few of us have, over the years, worked in decent jobs only to find things deteriorate over time disappointingly. Almost seems like a lot of jobs have a shelf life before things start going downhill for one reason or another.

Would just say, your last sentence there, those downward social comparisons that we often indulge in, 'there's always someone worse off' and so on, are not normally productive. You don't have to compare what you're going through with someone else's struggles to validate it mate. It can coccasionally even lead to guilt, 'Ive got no right to feel this way when others are etc.'. Things are not great at the moment and you've got a perfect right to recognise it and air it. Hope things change for you soon. They don't grow on trees but a new job would sound good wouldn't it?

[Hibrandenburg]

Struggling a bit just now, TBH, mostly due to turmoil at work.

I work for a small company and we've had a number of resignations due to the mad behaviour of the owner, plus the fact we're continually paid late (I'm now waiting for both April and May salary).

Unfortunately, the people leaving have been replaced with talentless 'yes men', which empowers the bullying behaviour of the CEO. I've spent the last few weeks trying to defend my younger, more timid colleagues from this pr1ck but it gets you down after a while.

I realise people are going through a lot worse than I am, though.

It's only about you Keith. I've been where you are at work and trying to fight for those that can't or won't stick up for themselves can be exhausting but also extremely hard to give up, but sometimes you have to for your own mental well being.

I don't know what kind of man the young Keith M that I knew as a boy turned into, but I'm certain he is a thoroughly decent human being judging by the kid that I knew.

Look after yourself digga.

[Keith_M]

Thanks for your responses, guys, it's much appreciated.

:aok:



And no, Paul, I haven't changed a bit from that weird little boy you were at school with ;-)

[CropleyWasGod]

Pal of mine is starting online CBT, but with a twist. There is no sound or vision, only text.

Anyone had any experience of this?

My own view is that therapy almost always needs some sort of visual or verbal contact, whether that's online, phone, or face-to-face. Otherwise, there is a risk of clues in body language, voice intonation etc. being missed by either party. It also relies on the literacy and typing skills of both.

It feels like an assembly-line approach to me, which is never a good thing in therapy IMO.

[stu in nottingham]

Pal of mine is starting online CBT, but with a twist. There is no sound or vision, only text.

Anyone had any experience of this?

My own view is that therapy almost always needs some sort of visual or verbal contact, whether that's online, phone, or face-to-face. Otherwise, there is a risk of clues in body language, voice intonation etc. being missed by either party. It also relies on the literacy and typing skills of both.

It feels like an assembly-line approach to me, which is never a good thing in therapy IMO.

Tend to agree. I guess the old addage of 'the worst thing to do is nothing' might apply though. My employers, Gamcare, offer a computerised CBT course for problem gamblers finding it difficult to attend regular sessions, whether F2F, by phone or Zoom. Clients do have a little bit of personal contact by phone each week though, maybe 20 minutes.

GameChange
https://www.gamcare.org.uk/self-help/gamechange/

[JimBHibees]

Struggling a bit just now, TBH, mostly due to turmoil at work.

I work for a small company and we've had a number of resignations due to the mad behaviour of the owner, plus the fact we're continually paid late (I'm now waiting for both April and May salary).

Unfortunately, the people leaving have been replaced with talentless 'yes men', which empowers the bullying behaviour of the CEO. I've spent the last few weeks trying to defend my younger, more timid colleagues from this pr1ck but it gets you down after a while.

I realise people are going through a lot worse than I am, though.

That sounds a very difficult position to be in particularly the uncertainty that you get paid or not. Wouldn't underestimate the stresses that would cause. Good that you are sticking up for others also.

[Keith_M]

That sounds a very difficult position to be in particularly the uncertainty that you get paid or not. Wouldn't underestimate the stresses that would cause. Good that you are sticking up for others also.


Cheers mate, much appreciated.

:aok:

[CropleyWasGod]

Australia approves the therapeutic use of psilocybin and MDMA.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-023-02093-8

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

Having a right time of it with the old insomnia again past few nights, getting quite irritable now after my third night with no sleep. Got a busy few days with work coming up now, got to take the cat to the vet because he’s not well (very lethargic and doesn’t want to do anything, only really moves when he hears food being put out) and that’s stressing me out as well, he’s usually my shadow when this happens, as if he knows I’m struggling but he’s just not in the form for anyone just now. Work today takes me up to Aberdeen and then tomorrow away down to Dumfries, a lot of travelling and I’m just really not in the mood. Scunnered is probably the word for it.


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[Scorrie]

Sorry to hear this, not getting enough sleep can really undermine mental health. Is it getting to sleep or staying asleep the problem? Everybody’s different but I go to bed at 10 every night and read. I also keep off screens if I can. Just having a routine helps. If I wake up in the night stressed, I try very deep and slow breathing. It does slow things down and eventually helps. There is a pose at the end of yoga practice called the corpse where you lie as still as you can and breathe deep and slow. I do this in the night and it does help. Not sure if any of this helps as everyone is different but hope you get a good nights sleep soon 👍

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

Sorry to hear this, not getting enough sleep can really undermine mental health. Is it getting to sleep or staying asleep the problem? Everybody’s different but I go to bed at 10 every night and read. I also keep off screens if I can. Just having a routine helps. If I wake up in the night stressed, I try very deep and slow breathing. It does slow things down and eventually helps. There is a pose at the end of yoga practice called the corpse where you lie as still as you can and breathe deep and slow. I do this in the night and it does help. Not sure if any of this helps as everyone is different but hope you get a good nights sleep soon [emoji106]

It’s actually getting to sleep that’s the issue, I’m in bed for about 12 most nights and I usually read for half an hour. Just can’t get over sometimes


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[Mon Dieu4]

Having a right time of it with the old insomnia again past few nights, getting quite irritable now after my third night with no sleep. Got a busy few days with work coming up now, got to take the cat to the vet because he’s not well (very lethargic and doesn’t want to do anything, only really moves when he hears food being put out) and that’s stressing me out as well, he’s usually my shadow when this happens, as if he knows I’m struggling but he’s just not in the form for anyone just now. Work today takes me up to Aberdeen and then tomorrow away down to Dumfries, a lot of travelling and I’m just really not in the mood. Scunnered is probably the word for it.


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Insomnia is the worst, I've only really had it once a couple of years back, lasted about 6 days, the most annoying thing about it was there was no reason at all I could put my finger on as to why I had it, I didn't have a care in the world, everything was fine, that wound me up as I could have handled it better if I could have said yep worrying about such and such is clearly keeping me up

I tried exercise, listening to self hypnosis apps and videos, relaxation techniques, sleeping tablets the lot and none of it worked, then as quickly as it appeared it went away again, days 3-6 were utter hell

I tested positive for COVID about 10 days later so can only presume it was some symptom of the start of that

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

Insomnia is the worst, I've only really had it once a couple of years back, lasted about 6 days, the most annoying thing about it was there was no reason at all I could put my finger on as to why I had it, I didn't have a care in the world, everything was fine, that wound me up as I could have handled it better if I could have said yep worrying about such and such is clearly keeping me up

I tried exercise, listening to self hypnosis apps and videos, relaxation techniques, sleeping tablets the lot and none of it worked, then as quickly as it appeared it went away again, days 3-6 were utter hell

I tested positive for COVID about 10 days later so can only presume it was some symptom of the start of that

Yep mine comes and goes every now and again, day three onwards is the absolute pits. I don’t seem to have anything that particularly triggers it, I wasn’t sleeping before all the stresses I’ve just whinged about hit in the past maybe day and a half. Just that stress is compounding it almost and making every living moment feel like hell until it goes away


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[McD]

It’s actually getting to sleep that’s the issue, I’m in bed for about 12 most nights and I usually read for half an hour. Just can’t get over sometimes


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I’ve used an app called Balance, which has various groupings of mediations, you can choose from a few different people/voices to speak them to you. They’re actually pretty good, I’ve used some of the calming ones and a few of the sleeping ones, and they’ve helped.

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

I’ve used an app called Balance, which has various groupings of mediations, you can choose from a few different people/voices to speak them to you. They’re actually pretty good, I’ve used some of the calming ones and a few of the sleeping ones, and they’ve helped.

I’m going to give that a try tonight mate thanks very much for the tip


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[McD]

I’m going to give that a try tonight mate thanks very much for the tip


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fingers crossed for you mate :aok:

[Keith_M]

It’s actually getting to sleep that’s the issue, I’m in bed for about 12 most nights and I usually read for half an hour. Just can’t get over sometimes


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There are no easy solutions to this, so keep in kind this is just a suggestion that occasionally helps me, so thought I'd post it, just in case :) ...


Ive noticed a link between my sleeping habits and the amount of exercise I take. I'm one of the many 'work from home' people and realised there were days where I was hardly ever going out. I now try to have a walk, no matter how short, every lunchtime and every evening, after dinner and find that, while not a cure-all, it does help.

I also realised I was spending too much time staring at my laptop, constantly reading news article about various events and getting stressed out, so had to take some time off for my peace of mind.


I hope you find something that works for you as it must be a bit of a nightmare.

[WeeRussell]

I think recent weather hasn’t helped with sleeping. Cooled down again now but I wasn’t getting good sleep either through waking up sweating in the heat/lack of air… or being kept up by noise through needing to have the window open.

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

Have managed to get a couple of hours for the past two nights, played golf today and then drove up to Fort William for a wee break with the mrs to unwind. Sat having a pint and had chicken balmoral for dinner, feel quite content and settled so hopefully will be out like a light tonight. Thanks for all the suggestions everyone, much appreciated


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[Tambo]

McD with the great advice as usual 👍

[Keith_M]

Have managed to get a couple of hours for the past two nights, played golf today and then drove up to Fort William for a wee break with the mrs to unwind. Sat having a pint and had chicken balmoral for dinner, feel quite content and settled so hopefully will be out like a light tonight. Thanks for all the suggestions everyone, much appreciated


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[Stairway 2 7]

I'd advise using this site less tbh. It's pretty much post after post of bad, angry or depressing news. Yes there is a massive amount to be angry ect about. But there is a disconnect between this site and outside.

You can't just focus on the negative in the world it'll drive you nuts and reading posts from people trawling every news source to find it is worse.

Edinburgh is beautiful despite what the hundred post thread says, I find it helps me so much going out for a big walk in it.

[Sylar]

I'd advise using this site less tbh. It's pretty much post after post of bad, angry or depressing news. Yes there is a massive amount to be angry ect about. But there is a disconnect between this site and outside.

You can't just focus on the negative in the world it'll drive you nuts and reading posts from people trawling every news source to find it is worse.

Edinburgh is beautiful despite what the hundred post thread says, I find it helps me so much going out for a big walk in it.

Great advice. I've spent a lot less time on here lately, and also my social media platforms. Being offline more is certainly helping my mood.

And I couldn't agree more on Edinburgh. I'm quite a bit out of the city these days but will occasionally drive into the edge of the city and run into the centre and back out - being in Edinburgh really makes me happier.

[Hiber-nation]

I'd advise using this site less tbh. It's pretty much post after post of bad, angry or depressing news. Yes there is a massive amount to be angry ect about. But there is a disconnect between this site and outside.

You can't just focus on the negative in the world it'll drive you nuts and reading posts from people trawling every news source to find it is worse.

Edinburgh is beautiful despite what the hundred post thread says, I find it helps me so much going out for a big walk in it.

Plenty good stuff on this site. But easy to get sucked into never-ending debates with no possibility of changing people's opinions.

The right wing media is the one thing that I really get angry about these days but discussing it face to face with like-minded people can be a positive, whereas continually checking your phone to see what's trending on Twitter can be soul destroying.

[Smartie]

I'd advise using this site less tbh. It's pretty much post after post of bad, angry or depressing news. Yes there is a massive amount to be angry ect about. But there is a disconnect between this site and outside.

You can't just focus on the negative in the world it'll drive you nuts and reading posts from people trawling every news source to find it is worse.

Edinburgh is beautiful despite what the hundred post thread says, I find it helps me so much going out for a big walk in it.

I got noticeably happier when we were banned from the HG.

It feels a bit like drinking or something though - fine, arguably a positive experience when done in moderation or at the right time. Drinking to excess or when you're already angry and spoiling for a fight then it can become hugely damaging.

Spotting the signs is the key. Like - I'm working from home today and have achieved next to f all today. The anxiety is growing and I have a few commitments later today. This feels like the time to step away from the crack pipe, which is essentially what it is at times.

[overdrive]

There are no easy solutions to this, so keep in kind this is just a suggestion that occasionally helps me, so thought I'd post it, just in case :) ...


Ive noticed a link between my sleeping habits and the amount of exercise I take. I'm one of the many 'work from home' people and realised there were days where I was hardly ever going out. I now try to have a walk, no matter how short, every lunchtime and every evening, after dinner and find that, while not a cure-all, it does help.

I also realised I was spending too much time staring at my laptop, constantly reading news article about various events and getting stressed out, so had to take some time off for my peace of mind.


I hope you find something that works for you as it must be a bit of a nightmare.

Just to point out that exercise can actually cause insomnia depending on the type of exercise and when you do it. I've had a few bouts of insomnia in the past and one of them I couldn't put down to anything until I stopped going to the gym in the evening. I was doing HIIT style workouts and I think what was happening from some reading I've done was that it was causing a spike in adrenaline which was stopping me from getting to sleep. Now I tend to stick to morning or afternoon-early evening if I'm doing more intensive exercise.

On the flipside, I found doing yoga later in the evening really helped with my sleep. I've never been so fit either as I found it helped me recover better between workouts allowing me to push myself further. Then since the pandemic, I'm back to being a big fat mess :greengrin

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

reading posts from people trawling every news source to find it is worse.

Must be exhausting right enough.😁

[CropleyWasGod]

2 contrasting stories in the media today, albeit I know they've been around for a while:-

The first is encouraging, and hopefully is another step on the path towards a proper informed debate on the use of plant medicine:-

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/crispin-blunt-takes-up-the-fight-for-magic-mushrooms-smdglztg8

Or.... https://archive.ph/v1lIj

The second is much more troubling, and reflects how far we have to go in terms of social and institutional attitudes:-

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-66326656

[Tambo]

Hope everyone is ok!

Life is going well for myself at the moment, have been on Mirtazapine for a few months and have been feeling better, trying to resist the appetite side effects 😁 work going good also.

[Keith_M]

Hope everyone is ok!

Life is going well for myself at the moment, have been on Mirtazapine for a few months and have been feeling better, trying to resist the appetite side effects �� work going good also.


Glad to hear that :aok:



I accidentally read your post as being on 'Marzipan', which brought a smile to my face :greengrin

[McD]

Hope everyone is ok!

Life is going well for myself at the moment, have been on Mirtazapine for a few months and have been feeling better, trying to resist the appetite side effects 😁 work going good also.


great to hear you’re doing well Tambo, chuffed to see this :aok:

[Hermit Crab]

Have to admit I'm really toiling a bit just now. I'll post more when I get a chance but has anyone ever royally f^^^ed up a longterm friendship with someone past the point of no return? This person was the kindest, caring and most generous person I've ever known. And its all my own fault. :brickwall

[scoopyboy]

Have to admit I'm really toiling a bit just now. I'll post more when I get a chance but has anyone ever royally f^^^ed up a longterm friendship with someone past the point of no return? This person was the kindest, caring and most generous person I've ever known. And its all my own fault. :brickwall

Try and resolve it by getting in touch with the person and try to arrange a meeting to talk it through.

It may or might not work but at least going forward you will know you have made the effort and that will possibly at least give you a bit of comfort.

You've been bold enough to admit on here that it's your fault, hopefully that turns out to be the hardest part.

Good luck HC

[Bridge hibs]

Ive read some of this thread and its unbelievably brave to read of so many struggles and heartening to read so many opening up to others and sharing, and also the support being offered

Ive been holding back a bit as dont want to dilute the worries and ongoing support that others have recently been going through but I will get it off my chest anyway

Ive been ill for at least the best part of 18 months. Firstly with type 2 diabetes and then covid twice. My recovery was slow but I then developed a urinary issue in which I was referred to Urology at WGH. I waited a year for the consultation which I had a few months ago and Im now on the waiting list which will take around a year for the operation

The past few months my energy levels have went through the soles of my feet, I struggle to get out of bed in the morning, my joints ache all day and every day and I am completely whacked out with sometimes even no energy or the inclination to have a meaningful conversation

My employers have been great to be fair and have adjusted my workload a bit to suit, however as much as they have supported they have advised that as my energy levels are so low I may actually be a risk at work and they have suggested I take some time off to recharge and speak to my GP

I spoke to my GP last Friday on the phone about my diabetes and subsequent blood results and touched on my low mood and lack of energy, he has suggested further bloods and thinks I may also have an under active thyroid but will await bloods results first, he has recently just started me on tablets for my high blood pressure

I think taking some time away from work may benefit me as Im still trying to remain positive despite very low mood, morale and no energy but I have a plan to not dwell on things, get my arse into gesr, start eating more healthily, walk the dog and get wired into my weights, Im hoping that if I start feeling better mentally then hopefully feeling better physically may be a turning point

Sorry for the long winded post and thanks for reading

[scoopyboy]

Ive read some of this thread and its unbelievably brave to read of so many struggles and heartening to read so many opening up to others and sharing, and also the support being offered

Ive been holding back a bit as dont want to dilute the worries and ongoing support that others have recently been going through but I will get it off my chest anyway

Ive been ill for at least the best part of 18 months. Firstly with type 2 diabetes and then covid twice. My recovery was slow but I then developed a urinary issue in which I was referred to Urology at WGH. I waited a year for the consultation which I had a few months ago and Im now on the waiting list which will take around a year for the operation

The past few months my energy levels have went through the soles of my feet, I struggle to get out of bed in the morning, my joints ache all day and every day and I am completely whacked out with sometimes even no energy or the inclination to have a meaningful conversation

My employers have been great to be fair and have adjusted my workload a bit to suit, however as much as they have supported they have advised that as my energy levels are so low I may actually be a risk at work and they have suggested I take some time off to recharge and speak to my GP

I spoke to my GP last Friday on the phone about my diabetes and subsequent blood results and touched on my low mood and lack of energy, he has suggested further bloods and thinks I may also have an under active thyroid but will await bloods results first, he has recently just started me on tablets for my high blood pressure

I think taking some time away from work may benefit me as Im still trying to remain positive despite very low mood, morale and no energy but I have a plan to not dwell on things, get my arse into gesr, start eating more healthily, walk the dog and get wired into my weights, Im hoping that if I start feeling better mentally then hopefully feeling better physically may be a turning point

Sorry for the long winded post and thanks for reading

I think this thread is excellent.

One of the worst thing for people struggling is they feel they have nowhere or no one to turn to.

This gives the opportunity for people to communicate, thankfully people post responsibly and I'm sure it has helped people.

A thing that I find is that people posting on this are not who I expect. Many posters on the messageboards come across very well as confident people and haven't a care in the world, that obviously isn't the case.

Just goes to show nobody is immune.

[Bridge hibs]

I think this thread is excellent.

One of the worst thing for people struggling is they feel they have nowhere or no one to turn to.

This gives the opportunity for people to communicate, thankfully people post responsibly and I'm sure it has helped people.

A thing that I find is that people posting on this are not who I expect. Many posters on the messageboards come across very well as confident people and haven't a care in the world, that obviously isn't the case.

Just goes to show nobody is immune.I totally agree mate and it doesnt matter who you are, whether known or just a username behind a keyboard, folk just need to get things off their chests and there are many who can offer advice, probably many who have been through similar experiences. Im going to use my time off work by having a read of this thread from the start and maybe read some of the useful links that have been posted

My own situation is difficult as I am unable to share with my Wife as she has a lot of serious physical health issues and as much as she would listen and support I dont want to burden her with my issues, as much as she would want me to I just think it would be so unfair to put it onto her plate

[Smartie]

Have to admit I'm really toiling a bit just now. I'll post more when I get a chance but has anyone ever royally f^^^ed up a longterm friendship with someone past the point of no return? This person was the kindest, caring and most generous person I've ever known. And its all my own fault. :brickwall

If they’re genuinely kind and caring then it won’t be beyond the point of no return.

Forgiveness is important. I think we need to be able to disagree, have conflict, sometimes fall out but ultimately drift back again. Obviously there are red line issues but I don’t care much for folk who pride themselves on holding grudges. It’s not “being strong” to do so.

I maybe wouldn’t rush it or be too persistent too soon but if you are feeling sufficient remorse and feel that it’s all on you then there’s definitely room for a message that states that you hold your hands up, take full responsibility, deeply regret those actions, have come to realise how much you value that friendship and when the time is right would like to make amends.

If it’s received well, magic. If not, then maybe the person isn’t as kind and caring as you might have thought, or the friendship worth saving.

It might not be the same, it might take a very long time to get back to where you were and you might need to be patient, but I don’t think you should just let it go.

I think it was the “recommendations” thread where someone suggested being told “forgiveness is a choice” and I loved that. It’s good to forgive and it’s good to be forgiven. Most conflicts end up being trivial when they’re really broken down, allowing for obvious exceptions.

This is said by someone who has had several long term friendships break beyond the point of no return. None of them are that way because I’ve closed the door though. None.

[McD]

Have to admit I'm really toiling a bit just now. I'll post more when I get a chance but has anyone ever royally f^^^ed up a longterm friendship with someone past the point of no return? This person was the kindest, caring and most generous person I've ever known. And its all my own fault. :brickwall


a few people have already replied HC, but I’d echo their advice. Reach out, be honest about taking responsibility for the situation, apologise and express your desire to rekindle the friendship. If they are willing, then you’ve made the right step, and if they aren’t, you will not be spending the future wondering if you could have changed things if only you’d reached out.

the hardest part is often being honest with one’s self, and admitting you were wrong. You’ve already overcome that hurdle, fingers crossed for you bud

[McD]

Ive read some of this thread and its unbelievably brave to read of so many struggles and heartening to read so many opening up to others and sharing, and also the support being offered

Ive been holding back a bit as dont want to dilute the worries and ongoing support that others have recently been going through but I will get it off my chest anyway

Ive been ill for at least the best part of 18 months. Firstly with type 2 diabetes and then covid twice. My recovery was slow but I then developed a urinary issue in which I was referred to Urology at WGH. I waited a year for the consultation which I had a few months ago and Im now on the waiting list which will take around a year for the operation

The past few months my energy levels have went through the soles of my feet, I struggle to get out of bed in the morning, my joints ache all day and every day and I am completely whacked out with sometimes even no energy or the inclination to have a meaningful conversation

My employers have been great to be fair and have adjusted my workload a bit to suit, however as much as they have supported they have advised that as my energy levels are so low I may actually be a risk at work and they have suggested I take some time off to recharge and speak to my GP

I spoke to my GP last Friday on the phone about my diabetes and subsequent blood results and touched on my low mood and lack of energy, he has suggested further bloods and thinks I may also have an under active thyroid but will await bloods results first, he has recently just started me on tablets for my high blood pressure

I think taking some time away from work may benefit me as Im still trying to remain positive despite very low mood, morale and no energy but I have a plan to not dwell on things, get my arse into gesr, start eating more healthily, walk the dog and get wired into my weights, Im hoping that if I start feeling better mentally then hopefully feeling better physically may be a turning point

Sorry for the long winded post and thanks for reading


no need to apologise BH, and no need to hold anything back here, we’ve all needed some support.

i think you’ve handled all of this really well, and probably haven’t given yourself the credit you deserve. You’ve sought out medical help, you’ve spoken with your work and been honest, and they have responded well thankfully.

just my tuppence worth, I think sharing what you’re experiencing with your wife will help. Whilst she’s experiencing her own medical issues, she’ll still have noticed that you’re not quite yourself, and will be worrying. It can sometimes be helpful to take your mind off your own issues by helping/supporting others with theirs, especially loved ones.

[Bridge hibs]

no need to apologise BH, and no need to hold anything back here, we’ve all needed some support.

i think you’ve handled all of this really well, and probably haven’t given yourself the credit you deserve. You’ve sought out medical help, you’ve spoken with your work and been honest, and they have responded well thankfully.

just my tuppence worth, I think sharing what you’re experiencing with your wife will help. Whilst she’s experiencing her own medical issues, she’ll still have noticed that you’re not quite yourself, and will be worrying. It can sometimes be helpful to take your mind off your own issues by helping/supporting others with theirs, especially loved ones.Thanks McD your kind words are very much appreciated

I suppose in a way I have shared with my Wife and she is appreciative that I have taken some positive steps in actioning my issues and I think she takes great comfort from that

We are a good team and by and large we have always supported each other through thick and thin. My Wifes health issues have probably impacted on mines too, she has spinal damage and is awaiting an urgent Neuro appointment, so much so she is barely able to sleep at night, which in turn affects my sleep because I want to comfort her, I could sleep in the spare room but when we said our vows, in sickness and in health I will stick by them. She needs me as much as I need her

If she has to go for an op which has been discussed with Neuro a few years back then the risks would be horrific with the bare minimum being fused discs up to her neck. That was a challenging time then but its all come back, all she is thinking is about her career and that potentially ending

I feel so heartbroken for her and by equal measures thats why Im so determined to be mentally fit and strong for her, she is going to need me more than ever in the coming days, weeks, months and years

[McD]

Thanks McD your kind words are very much appreciated

I suppose in a way I have shared with my Wife and she is appreciative that I have taken some positive steps in actioning my issues and I think she takes great comfort from that

We are a good team and by and large we have always supported each other through thick and thin. My Wifes health issues have probably impacted on mines too, she has spinal damage and is awaiting an urgent Neuro appointment, so much so she is barely able to sleep at night, which in turn affects my sleep because I want to comfort her, I could sleep in the spare room but when we said our vows, in sickness and in health I will stick by them. She needs me as much as I need her

If she has to go for an op which has been discussed with Neuro a few years back then the risks would be horrific with the bare minimum being fused discs up to her neck. That was a challenging time then but its all come back, all she is thinking is about her career and that potentially ending

I feel so heartbroken for her and by equal measures thats why Im so determined to be mentally fit and strong for her, she is going to need me more than ever in the coming days, weeks, months and years

your support will be gladly felt by her mate, and she’ll draw so much strength from that. That determination in you will stand you both in good stead.

people often ask questions to others along the lines of ‘how did you cope? I don’t know if I could do that’, when the truth is, no one sets out to be resilient, you simply do it when situations occur. I’m sure you and your wife will stand strong beside each other, drawing strength from the other that neither of you knew you had, together you will come through all of this.

[stu in nottingham]

Ive read some of this thread and its unbelievably brave to read of so many struggles and heartening to read so many opening up to others and sharing, and also the support being offered

Ive been holding back a bit as dont want to dilute the worries and ongoing support that others have recently been going through but I will get it off my chest anyway

Ive been ill for at least the best part of 18 months. Firstly with type 2 diabetes and then covid twice. My recovery was slow but I then developed a urinary issue in which I was referred to Urology at WGH. I waited a year for the consultation which I had a few months ago and Im now on the waiting list which will take around a year for the operation

The past few months my energy levels have went through the soles of my feet, I struggle to get out of bed in the morning, my joints ache all day and every day and I am completely whacked out with sometimes even no energy or the inclination to have a meaningful conversation

My employers have been great to be fair and have adjusted my workload a bit to suit, however as much as they have supported they have advised that as my energy levels are so low I may actually be a risk at work and they have suggested I take some time off to recharge and speak to my GP

I spoke to my GP last Friday on the phone about my diabetes and subsequent blood results and touched on my low mood and lack of energy, he has suggested further bloods and thinks I may also have an under active thyroid but will await bloods results first, he has recently just started me on tablets for my high blood pressure

I think taking some time away from work may benefit me as Im still trying to remain positive despite very low mood, morale and no energy but I have a plan to not dwell on things, get my arse into gesr, start eating more healthily, walk the dog and get wired into my weights, Im hoping that if I start feeling better mentally then hopefully feeling better physically may be a turning point

Sorry for the long winded post and thanks for reading

Your post - and your one after - are very humbling mate. Well done to you on your great resilience through these difficult times. It sounds like you have put yourself in a healthy coping mode, looking at things holistically and attending everything you can to address the situation and doing a very good job of it too I might add.

I agree with the wise words offered by McD. This is especially so where disclosing to your partner is concerned. I notice you use the word 'team' for you both and I think that's exactly the right way to think about things. I am so sorry to understand the situation your partner is in but I feel 100 per cent certain that understanding your own situation fully will actually help her. In spite of her own ill-health she will absolutely want to. It will give her extra emphasis to look after you, just as you do her. It will give her purpose. That you want to be protective to her is absolutely laudible. She is a strong woman though and still has that strength for you, just as you do her.

Glad to hear that you have the opportunity to draw back from work a little. You have both been through so much in the workplace this past few years and now seems the time to step back and get yourself well.

If I may say so, ease yourself into the activities you plan and do it in a sustainable way that you can build on. It reminds me a little of advice I was given years ago about reading text books - leave yourself in a good and interesting place for the next session, whether it's weight, walking or whatever. It will make it easier to pick up again. When low moods come we can lose motivation and sometimes wait for that motivation to come along before we do things. A way to deal with that is by taking a (however small) step into the activity and repeat. Often the motivation can follow the activity in this way rather than a long wait to 'feel like' doing things.

Small steps - motivation - further steps.

Wish you both the best with things pal and write any time that feels good for you. I will be here to listen.

[Bridge hibs]

Thanks McD and Stu for your kind words, appreciated

[CropleyWasGod]

A timely reminder to check, and think about, those side-effects.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-66430817

[Scouse Hibee]

Absolutely gutted to hear this morning that a young man and ex work colleague has taken his own life. This has really shaken me, a very successful and appeared to a happy go lucky young man who was obviously suffering in silence. Really can’t comprehend this.

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

Absolutely gutted to hear this morning that a young man and ex work colleague has taken his own life. This has really shaken me, a very successful and appeared to a happy go lucky young man who was obviously suffering in silence. Really can’t comprehend this.

Sorry to hear that mate, my best pal took his own life on Xmas eve 2020. I know the shock you’re feeling right now, he was suffering in silence too. If you’re needing someone to talk about it with please don’t hesitate to pm me, best wishes


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[Bridge hibs]

Absolutely gutted to hear this morning that a young man and ex work colleague has taken his own life. This has really shaken me, a very successful and appeared to a happy go lucky young man who was obviously suffering in silence. Really can’t comprehend this.

Sorry to hear that Scouse, hopefully if you need support you will get it on this very thread

Take care bud

[McD]

Absolutely gutted to hear this morning that a young man and ex work colleague has taken his own life. This has really shaken me, a very successful and appeared to a happy go lucky young man who was obviously suffering in silence. Really can’t comprehend this.Terrible to see this, I’m so sorry

[CropleyWasGod]

This is a resource I have used in the past:-

https://www.mind.org.uk/information-support/guides-to-support-and-services/bereavement/bereavement-by-suicide/

[Fuzzywuzzy]

Try and resolve it by getting in touch with the person and try to arrange a meeting to talk it through.

It may or might not work but at least going forward you will know you have made the effort and that will possibly at least give you a bit of comfort.

You've been bold enough to admit on here that it's your fault, hopefully that turns out to be the hardest part.

Good luck HC

You could also try writing a physical letter. It will make anything you have to say more personal and sincere. It will also be cathartic for yourself. Even if you don't send it and meet personally I think you'll find that as you write there will be things that come to mind that you might not have thought about previously.

The longer you leave any communications the more difficult it will be to reach out as you'll feel you have left it too long as there is no going back.

Good luck!!

[stu in nottingham]

Absolutely gutted to hear this morning that a young man and ex work colleague has taken his own life. This has really shaken me, a very successful and appeared to a happy go lucky young man who was obviously suffering in silence. Really can’t comprehend this.

Sorry to hear about this young man and for your loss mate, very sad. It's the type of news that confounds us all.

Some years ago, I learnt that there are often two questions that we tend to ask ourselves in these circumstances, 'could I have done something (different)? and simply 'why?' It was explained to me that, of course, we cannot every know the answers to these questions as the person is no longer with us. It maybe even sounds a little harsh but some years ago it helped 'release' me in time from those troubling thought that can be so punishing.

To demonstrate how difficult these feelings can be, I had a colleague on the same counselling team contact me the other day as she had lost a friend to suicide and was quite distraught. As context, our team talk to people with suicide ideation and attempted suicides most days in a week

If it is or is becomes troubling to you then I'd suggest talking to either a helpful service such as SOBS or even to a close one. Please feel free to talk to me about it anytime and that goes for anyone here with similar issues. It is a subject well worth learning about and I can promise, the feeling of helping prevent someone losing their life in this way is indescribably gratifying.

[JimBHibees]

I’ve used an app called Balance, which has various groupings of mediations, you can choose from a few different people/voices to speak them to you. They’re actually pretty good, I’ve used some of the calming ones and a few of the sleeping ones, and they’ve helped.

I use an app called Smiling mind which has meditation exercises snd also sleep ones which have found useful in terms of getting to sleep or waking up and not being able to get back to sleep. Free to use.

[Scouse Hibee]

Cheers guys, thank you for your kind comments, advice and offers to chat, very much appreciated. The thing is it shouldn’t really affect me as much as it did. He is an ex colleague, we don’t keep in touch yet I see what a great time he was having via social media, I know he runs a successful business and know other folk who are closer to him who have said the same. It’s just something about him in particular taking his own life that has stunned me.

[CropleyWasGod]

Is this thread PM-only now?

[hibee_girl]

Is this thread PM-only now?

No, we've moved it to the dug out forum so that it's available to everyone.

[CropleyWasGod]

No, we've moved it to the dug out forum so that it's available to everyone.

Ah, gotcha.

Smart move. Thanks :agree:

[CropleyWasGod]

Really interesting article about the vagus nerve:-

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/aug/23/the-key-to-depression-obesity-alcoholism-and-more-why-the-vagus-nerve-is-so-exciting-to-scientists?fbclid=IwAR07CW5PqiHOAJXpX3CSRDAxeKx6qc 7V8a2JjLuRcDEHrePQ59MAJXBvBpo

The piece is pretty wide-ranging in its scope, and there may be interest for a lot of us on here. I think, for example, that the WimHof Method has been mentioned. My own interest is in yoga, particularly Kundalini. Both of these claim positive effects on the vagus nerve.

Early days, of course, but......

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

Have been unusually quiet on here the last wee while, I’ve took a wee break from all social media to just reconnect with the things that really matter in life after a tough few weeks for me mentally. Feeling a lot more “at it” now and I’ll be back with my incessant whinging as of next weekend. Also been on a break from the drink and takeaways for two weeks now and feeling all the better for it, the body and mind is a temple and all that stuff. Hope everyone is well.


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[Bridge hibs]

Have been unusually quiet on here the last wee while, I’ve took a wee break from all social media to just reconnect with the things that really matter in life after a tough few weeks for me mentally. Feeling a lot more “at it” now and I’ll be back with my incessant whinging as of next weekend. Also been on a break from the drink and takeaways for two weeks now and feeling all the better for it, the body and mind is a temple and all that stuff. Hope everyone is well.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkNice to see you back mate and glad you are starting to feel better 👍

I posted further up as I was going through a really bad spell, only trigger I think was my ill health, diabetes, high blood pressure and waiting on a Urology procedure at WGH, been waiting almost 2 years on an “urgent” consultation and procedure

Went to Doctors, a great Doctor who asked me to come in ultra early for a face to face which took almost 1 hour. We discussed my problems with a fine tooth comb and we came up with a strategy, a low doze of Sertraline to kick things off and some time away from work

Thus far I seem to be sleeping better, my appetite is back and most importantly my mood has lifted. I still have my down days but I try to make them purposeful by doing things around the house and garden, spreading things out over the week which gives me an activity to do daily which keeps me mentally and physically active

My dog is my best pal too and is such great company when I have my low days, its like he knows and can read my feelings, he is very tactile and even if sitting on the couch or lying in bed he always makes sure he is making contact with me. Every morning between 0550 to 0600 he pushes his nuzzle into my arm to waken me up as thats the time I would normally rise for work in the morning, its like he is making sure I stick to my routine

Bloody amazing 💚

Stick in mate 👍

[McD]

Nice to see you back mate and glad you are starting to feel better ��

I posted further up as I was going through a really bad spell, only trigger I think was my ill health, diabetes, high blood pressure and waiting on a Urology procedure at WGH, been waiting almost 2 years on an “urgent” consultation and procedure

Went to Doctors, a great Doctor who asked me to come in ultra early for a face to face which took almost 1 hour. We discussed my problems with a fine tooth comb and we came up with a strategy, a low doze of Sertraline to kick things off and some time away from work

Thus far I seem to be sleeping better, my appetite is back and most importantly my mood has lifted. I still have my down days but I try to make them purposeful by doing things around the house and garden, spreading things out over the week which gives me an activity to do daily which keeps me mentally and physically active

My dog is my best pal too and is such great company when I have my low days, its like he knows and can read my feelings, he is very tactile and even if sitting on the couch or lying in bed he always makes sure he is making contact with me. Every morning between 0550 to 0600 he pushes his nuzzle into my arm to waken me up as thats the time I would normally rise for work in the morning, its like he is making sure I stick to my routine

Bloody amazing ��

Stick in mate ��



Dogs are amazing companions, they definitely do know when something is up, and pick up on how you’re feeling constantly.


My wife and I were dog sitting for my sister a few years ago, our dog and hers were playing with a toy, half fighting over it, and my wife got a phone call from her mother to say someone had passed away. I heard it in her voice that something had happened, so did both the dogs. They both dropped the toy and flew over to her, sat in front of her, ears back, and putting a paw on her knee to tell her they were there. Just the sound of her voice told them how she was feeling and that she was upset. Wonderful animals

[Bridge hibs]

Dogs are amazing companions, they definitely do know when something is up, and pick up on how you’re feeling constantly.


My wife and I were dog sitting for my sister a few years ago, our dog and hers were playing with a toy, half fighting over it, and my wife got a phone call from her mother to say someone had passed away. I heard it in her voice that something had happened, so did both the dogs. They both dropped the toy and flew over to her, sat in front of her, ears back, and putting a paw on her knee to tell her they were there. Just the sound of her voice told them how she was feeling and that she was upset. Wonderful animals

Absolutely mate, my dog knows the bloody time !! I normally feed him at night as near to 5pm as I can, he has that amazing body clock and he is almost to the minute when he will do his stretching exercises in front of me before sitting at my feet and barking

Same when my Wife comes home from work, she doesnt work local and finishes at various times but he seems to stir at certain times and goes back and forth to the windows to look for her and more often or not she arrives not long after

My Wife has been down with a virus the past day or so and he knows, last night in bed he was cuddling into her, he lies at the bottom of the bed and I woke around 3am to see him lying with his head on her legs and facing her, he normally lies with his arse facing us but when we have been unwell he lies and faces us, its like he is watching over us, amazing animals

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

Nice to see you back mate and glad you are starting to feel better [emoji106]

I posted further up as I was going through a really bad spell, only trigger I think was my ill health, diabetes, high blood pressure and waiting on a Urology procedure at WGH, been waiting almost 2 years on an “urgent” consultation and procedure

Went to Doctors, a great Doctor who asked me to come in ultra early for a face to face which took almost 1 hour. We discussed my problems with a fine tooth comb and we came up with a strategy, a low doze of Sertraline to kick things off and some time away from work

Thus far I seem to be sleeping better, my appetite is back and most importantly my mood has lifted. I still have my down days but I try to make them purposeful by doing things around the house and garden, spreading things out over the week which gives me an activity to do daily which keeps me mentally and physically active

My dog is my best pal too and is such great company when I have my low days, its like he knows and can read my feelings, he is very tactile and even if sitting on the couch or lying in bed he always makes sure he is making contact with me. Every morning between 0550 to 0600 he pushes his nuzzle into my arm to waken me up as thats the time I would normally rise for work in the morning, its like he is making sure I stick to my routine

Bloody amazing [emoji172]

Stick in mate [emoji106]

As I’ve said on here a few times I’m **** feart of dugs, genuinely strike fear into my heart. I know they’re good companions for others though, very emotionally intelligent creatures. I’m a cat owner myself, one of ours is honestly the most loving, caring, soft natured animal I’ve ever met. He’s a ragdoll (getting on a bit now, starts getting senior food in 6 months which is terrifying. He’s not frail or anything but it’s been a bit of a trigger for anxiety for me the thought of him getting old and becoming unwell), he wakes me up daily at 6am for something to eat and to play with him, follows me around the house chatting away. Having a pet that requires proper looking after is invaluable for my mental health imo, gives me a sense of purpose beyond the everyday work and existing.


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[Keith_M]

Nice to see you back mate and glad you are starting to feel better 👍

I posted further up as I was going through a really bad spell, only trigger I think was my ill health, diabetes, high blood pressure and waiting on a Urology procedure at WGH, been waiting almost 2 years on an “urgent” consultation and procedure

Went to Doctors, a great Doctor who asked me to come in ultra early for a face to face which took almost 1 hour. We discussed my problems with a fine tooth comb and we came up with a strategy, a low doze of Sertraline to kick things off and some time away from work

Thus far I seem to be sleeping better, my appetite is back and most importantly my mood has lifted. I still have my down days but I try to make them purposeful by doing things around the house and garden, spreading things out over the week which gives me an activity to do daily which keeps me mentally and physically active

My dog is my best pal too and is such great company when I have my low days, its like he knows and can read my feelings, he is very tactile and even if sitting on the couch or lying in bed he always makes sure he is making contact with me. Every morning between 0550 to 0600 he pushes his nuzzle into my arm to waken me up as thats the time I would normally rise for work in the morning, its like he is making sure I stick to my routine

Bloody amazing 💚

Stick in mate 👍


:top marks

[CropleyWasGod]

It's that time of year when thoughts turn to supplements. :rolleyes:

I've just ordered a shedload of industrial-strength Vitamin D to get me through the winter. Co-incidentally, today I was tutoring a class of first-year students on mental health issues, and most of those students are new to Scotland. My advice to them was... forget the cold, you can dress for that. It's the lack of light that will do you, so get on the Vitamin D now. Some of them were ready to chuck it at the thought of the sun going down at 4 in December :cb

My CBD quest was bizarre, though. My usual source of gummies was out of stock, so I took to Ebay. I found what looked like a reasonable source, in England, only to be told "we can only ship to England. It's Ebay policy."

So I bought some off their own website anyway, and went to war with Ebay. They pointed me towards their rules, which say that oral CBD products can only be shipped to England and Wales. There is mention of the Food Standards Agency, which also has jurisdiction in Northern Ireland, but no reasoning.

I have asked them "why is this?, with a follow-up question "can Scottish and Northern Irish suppliers only ship to England and Wales too?" I think I might wait a while.

The lesson, I suppose, is that (if you live in Scotland) avoid EBay for your CBD.

[Fuzzywuzzy]

Years ago, early in the morning about 6ish, I took the dog for a walk and had gone up the access road to the red bridge. Once we got up onto the path the dog wouldn't go any further. Just stood and wouldn't budge. There was absolutely noone else in sight. Finally gave up and walked back down the slope. Got to the bottom, looked back and there was a guy on a bike just saying staring at us. Always think of I kept on it would have lead to a different ending. I do miss that dog.

They are great companions

[CropleyWasGod]

Interesting story this morning:-

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-67013695

The police story, not the Celtic one :greengrin

[Green Man]

This video is absolutely superb.

https://x.com/norwichcityfc/status/1711630140227064183?s=46&t=9oCn8xkUB16hKI7JCYMZqA

[Sylar]

This video is absolutely superb.

https://x.com/norwichcityfc/status/1711630140227064183?s=46&t=9oCn8xkUB16hKI7JCYMZqA

I just came on here to share it too - the ending broke me. A really powerful and sadly recognisable story.

[Itsnoteasy]

This video is absolutely superb.

https://x.com/norwichcityfc/status/1711630140227064183?s=46&t=9oCn8xkUB16hKI7JCYMZqA

Wasn't expecting that outcome 😪

[Bridge hibs]

I feel Im on the right track just now, Doctor is phoning me every week to have a chat and monitor my medication as upped my Sertraline from 50mg to 100mg.

A couple of months ago I was 7 days of feeling so low and quite desperate, now I am at the point of 3 good days with a couple of low days however with my low days I tend to try to work out a plan, that maybe something simple such as preparing tea, walking the dog or cutting the grass

When I first discussed my low mood/depression with my Doctor we agreed on a starting plan of the 3 A’s

Awareness, Acceptance, Action. With regards action I feel that has been the most important part for me as previously I had zero energy or motivation to do anything. I plan daily and as Ive said even doing the smallest of tasks has helped lift my mood

My Doctor has suggested I attend Thrive for some external support as they have a team who could offer some other much needed support to enable me to take the next steps

Thrive is relatively new and my Doctor has suggested some great feedback from patients that he has recommended to the service. It is a drop in session which lasts approx 30 minutes so no appointment needed, sessions are at Norton Place beside Easter Road stadium or Craigmillar surgery

I plan to attend on Tuesday morning at Craigmillar

https://www.edinburghthrive.com/

[CropleyWasGod]

This may be of interest to anyone based in London:-

https://www.imperial.ac.uk/psychedelic-research-centre/participate-in-a-trial/microdosing-study-20/

[Liam89]

How's everyone getting on?

This is the time of year my anxiety usually ramps up but managing to keep it at bay this year so far.

A routine of strength training 3+ x a week and daily magnesium & zinc, vit d and vit c has really kept it under wraps compared to the last few years. Last year was tough so I'm glad to have had it under control since March or so.

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

How's everyone getting on?

This is the time of year my anxiety usually ramps up but managing to keep it at bay this year so far.

A routine of strength training 3+ x a week and daily magnesium & zinc, vit d and vit c has really kept it under wraps compared to the last few years. Last year was tough so I'm glad to have had it under control since March or so.

Been really struggling, sleeping for 18+ hours a day on days off work etc purely to avoid having to face getting up and feeling as though the world is caving in. Really having a much harder effect on me this year than ever before


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[Liam89]

Been really struggling, sleeping for 18+ hours a day on days off work etc purely to avoid having to face getting up and feeling as though the world is caving in. Really having a much harder effect on me this year than ever before


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I'm sorry to hear that mate.

I'm sure there are better people than me equipped to give you advice but try and keep up some routines, go for some walks and know that the cloud will lift.

Talking openly to anyone who'll listen helped me a lot too.

[Itsnoteasy]

[QUOTE=ErinGoBraghHFC;7517850]Been really struggling, sleeping for 18+ hours a day on days off work etc purely to avoid having to face getting up and feeling as though the world is caving in. Really having a much harder effect on me this year than ever.


I wouldn't know how to help you. But if a game of pool & a pint or a juice & an ear to bend well that's the least I could do. Don't worry if you can't afford it it's on me. It must be bloody awful feeling the way you do & I'm so lucky I don't feel like that. Feel free to pm me & we can sort something out. Look after yourself & stay safe.
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[QUOTE=ErinGoBraghHFC;7517850]Been really struggling, sleeping for 18+ hours a day on days off work etc purely to avoid having to face getting up and feeling as though the world is caving in. Really having a much harder effect on me this year than ever.


I wouldn't know how to help you. But if a game of pool & a pint or a juice & an ear to bend well that's the least I could do. Don't worry if you can't afford it it's on me. It must be bloody awful feeling the way you do & I'm so lucky I don't feel like that. Feel free to pm me & we can sort something out. Look after yourself & stay safe.
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Nice one mate 💚

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

[QUOTE=ErinGoBraghHFC;7517850]Been really struggling, sleeping for 18+ hours a day on days off work etc purely to avoid having to face getting up and feeling as though the world is caving in. Really having a much harder effect on me this year than ever.


I wouldn't know how to help you. But if a game of pool & a pint or a juice & an ear to bend well that's the least I could do. Don't worry if you can't afford it it's on me. It must be bloody awful feeling the way you do & I'm so lucky I don't feel like that. Feel free to pm me & we can sort something out. Look after yourself & stay safe.
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That’s awfy good of you mate I really appreciate that, might take you up on that at some point. I’ll be buying though, you’re a gent [emoji122]


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[Sylar]

[QUOTE=Itsnoteasy;7520525]

That’s awfy good of you mate I really appreciate that, might take you up on that at some point. I’ll be buying though, you’re a gent [emoji122]


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Just noticed you're in Lanarkshire EGB. As am I, so that offer stands from me too (I know it's a big place, but it's fairly easy to get around!). Feel free to message if a coffee, pint or a walk would be beneficial to you at any point.

I'm up and down just now. Nothing serious, but the days where I'm wobbling do feel like they're becoming more challenging. Longer lasting bouts of anxiety, a sensation of total helplessness at times...I'm absolutely fine with my coping techniques and folks around me, but I'm certainly looking forward to a good break over the holidays and a bit of a reset.

[Bridge hibs]

Anyone struggling I cant speak highly enough of this service, no GP referrals required, just drop in, fill out a few questions and someone will call you out and will take you to a room for a 1 to 1 chat, they will then progress you to a specific specialist for further rehab/therapy etc, Ive had my appointment through to see a mental health CPN in early January

Thrive has new drop in service which will run between 10am and 4pm every Wednesday and Thursday at Norton Park as of 21st August 2023.

Your first stop for mental health information & resources. The Mental Health Information Station is open for walk in visits at the Walpole Hall every Thursday 10.30 am to 3.00 pm.

Edit - It took a lot of thinking and courage for me to go and speak to someone face to face, if anyone is feeling like that then please please message me and I could meet you there and give you some support

[Sylar]

Just to compound the mental side of things, my GP called me today after getting some bloods taken and I've been diagnosed with diabetes.

What a lovely pre-Christmas surprise :rolleyes:

[CropleyWasGod]

Just to compound the mental side of things, my GP called me today after getting some bloods taken and I've been diagnosed with diabetes.

What a lovely pre-Christmas surprise :rolleyes:

Maybe your body was telling you something was up, which contributed to your low mood. Physical issues almost never come alone.

I often find that having a label for "something" can be a help. You now have "something" to work with, rather than not being very sure about what "it" was. You can deal with it appropriately, which will be a challenge of course, but that challenge might be one of the keys to improving your mental health.

[Itsnoteasy]

I would just like to wish everyone on this group a Merry Xmas.

As I said to EGB if anyone isn't feeling the best & want out the house for a game of pool, or a walk up the Pentlands with my dog & a chat give me a shout. No pressure to pay if cash is tight.

I've volunteered to deliver meals on Xmas day for The Hibs foundation. My son & wife are also doing this in a separate car. Want my son to see how lucky he is in life.

Stay safe everyone & hope we pump that manky mob on 27th Dec.

[Bridge hibs]

I would just like to wish everyone on this group a Merry Xmas.

As I said to EGB if anyone isn't feeling the best & want out the house for a game of pool, or a walk up the Pentlands with my dog & a chat give me a shout. No pressure to pay if cash is tight.

I've volunteered to deliver meals on Xmas day for The Hibs foundation. My son & wife are also doing this in a separate car. Want my son to see how lucky he is in life.

Stay safe everyone & hope we pump that manky mob on 27th Dec.

Same to you mate and great gesture too, also with regards the meals delivery, brilliant stuff 👍

My Wife donated 2 meals £28 each to Social Bite too, those folk are in need, to us its buying crap or takeaways so happy to donate to a worthy cause

[Keith_M]

I would just like to wish everyone on this group a Merry Xmas.

As I said to EGB if anyone isn't feeling the best & want out the house for a game of pool, or a walk up the Pentlands with my dog & a chat give me a shout. No pressure to pay if cash is tight.

I've volunteered to deliver meals on Xmas day for The Hibs foundation. My son & wife are also doing this in a separate car. Want my son to see how lucky he is in life.

Stay safe everyone & hope we pump that manky mob on 27th Dec.


:aok:

[Itsnoteasy]

Same to you mate and great gesture too, also with regards the meals delivery, brilliant stuff 👍

My Wife donated 2 meals £28 each to Social Bite too, those folk are in need, to us its buying crap or takeaways so happy to donate to a worthy cause

👍🏻

[pollution]

I am thinking of everyone who suffers from anxiety etc at this time of year.

Wishing you all the very best...good luck keep strong.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Depression and Thierry Henry.

https://news.sky.com/story/thierry-henry-cried-almost-daily-early-in-pandemic-as-he-opens-up-on-depression-13044763

[Keith_M]

Depression and Thierry Henry.

https://news.sky.com/story/thierry-henry-cried-almost-daily-early-in-pandemic-as-he-opens-up-on-depression-13044763


Good to see him opening up about this publicly as it might help break down the barriers and encourage other people to speak to someone about their issues, as that's the first step to getting help.

[CropleyWasGod]

Not new knowledge, but it's worth reinforcing.:-

https://news.sky.com/story/exercise-even-better-than-anti-depressants-at-treating-depression-study-finds-13071944

Particularly pleased to see yoga in there.

[Pagan Hibernia]

Spring equinox today, the lovely time of year when light takes over from darkness. A good time to check in. How are we all doing?

[Bridge hibs]

Spring equinox today, the lovely time of year when light takes over from darkness. A good time to check in. How are we all doing?

Doing really well mate thanks, Im still seeing my CPN in Leith who has been fantastic, listening, chatting and mapping out coping strategies etc. I cant praise iThrive enough, drop in, no appointment needed and they will chat to you there and then and will follow up with an allocated member of a Mental Health team

They have specialists that can support everyones social issues that can affect mental health, from Depression and anxiety, stress, alcohol issues, coping with bereavement, gambling etc, any issues that have impacted or will impact your mental health

Hope you are well 👍

[Pagan Hibernia]

Doing really well mate thanks, Im still seeing my CPN in Leith who has been fantastic, listening, chatting and mapping out coping strategies etc. I cant praise iThrive enough, drop in, no appointment needed and they will chat to you there and then and will follow up with an allocated member of a Mental Health team

They have specialists that can support everyones social issues that can affect mental health, from Depression and anxiety, stress, alcohol issues, coping with bereavement, gambling etc, any issues that have impacted or will impact your mental health

Hope you are well 👍

Great to hear buddy! 👍

[andrew70]

Doing really well mate thanks, Im still seeing my CPN in Leith who has been fantastic, listening, chatting and mapping out coping strategies etc. I cant praise iThrive enough, drop in, no appointment needed and they will chat to you there and then and will follow up with an allocated member of a Mental Health team

They have specialists that can support everyones social issues that can affect mental health, from Depression and anxiety, stress, alcohol issues, coping with bereavement, gambling etc, any issues that have impacted or will impact your mental health

Hope you are well 👍

I’ve just got my new psych at Inchkeith House on Leith Walk and he suggested Thrive to do decider skills after I’ve done my pain management group this summer.

Is this something you’ve done?

[Bridge hibs]

I’ve just got my new psych at Inchkeith House on Leith Walk and he suggested Thrive to do decider skills after I’ve done my pain management group this summer.

Is this something you’ve done?I went to iThrive for an assessment first Andrew and it takes around 30 to 45 mins, from there they determine your need/s and refer you to the appropriate CPN, Ive had 3 sessions at Inchkeith House and have a 4th on Monday

My CPN is brilliant and my our focus is more on triggers and management, things that triggered my depression and anxiety and we are working through plans, its been brilliant so far and I cant praise them highly enough

Hope you are doing well mate 👍

[andrew70]

I went to iThrive for an assessment first Andrew and it takes around 30 to 45 mins, from there they determine your need/s and refer you to the appropriate CPN, Ive had 3 sessions at Inchkeith House and have a 4th on Monday

My CPN is brilliant and my our focus is more on triggers and management, things that triggered my depression and anxiety and we are working through plans, its been brilliant so far and I cant praise them highly enough

Hope you are doing well mate 👍

Glad that all seems to be working for you.

I’ve struggled for 21 years with depression and anxiety and I’ve been diagnosed lately with Borderline Personality Disorder and also Fibromyalgia so dealing with a lot just now.

So looking at all options.

I will hopefully feel better after I go through the pain management group therapy but if not I’ll approach thrive.

Cheers.

[Hiber-nation]

Glad that all seems to be working for you.

I’ve struggled for 21 years with depression and anxiety and I’ve been diagnosed lately with Borderline Personality Disorder and also Fibromyalgia so dealing with a lot just now.

So looking at all options.

I will hopefully feel better after I go through the pain management group therapy but if not I’ll approach thrive.

Cheers.

Don't know if you are aware of a charity called Pain Concern who I used to volunteer for. Plenty of helpful info on their website.

https://painconcern.org.uk/

[andrew70]

Don't know if you are aware of a charity called Pain Concern who I used to volunteer for. Plenty of helpful info on their website.

https://painconcern.org.uk/

Thank you, i’ll have a look.

[Bridge hibs]

Glad that all seems to be working for you.

I’ve struggled for 21 years with depression and anxiety and I’ve been diagnosed lately with Borderline Personality Disorder and also Fibromyalgia so dealing with a lot just now.


So looking at all options.

I will hopefully feel better after I go through the pain management group therapy but if not I’ll approach thrive.

Cheers.Sorry to hear you are finding things difficult mate, hopefully the pain management sessions are helpful. I would suggest pop down to iThrive for an initial chat about your mental health, they have really good and experienced people out there who could support you

Thrive has a drop in service which will run between 10am and 4pm every Wednesday and Thursday at Norton Park just behind hibs West stand


Take care mate 👍

[Pedantic_Hibee]

Glad that all seems to be working for you.

I’ve struggled for 21 years with depression and anxiety and I’ve been diagnosed lately with Borderline Personality Disorder and also Fibromyalgia so dealing with a lot just now.

So looking at all options.

I will hopefully feel better after I go through the pain management group therapy but if not I’ll approach thrive.

Cheers.

Hi Andrew, not sure if you’re into reading/audiobooks but I recently listened to Overcoming Unwanted Intrusive Thoughts by Sally M Winston which is a bit of a game-changer. I could be wrong, and forgive me if so, but with your depression and anxiety I suspect you may have spent a lifetime talking badly to yourself, telling yourself you are worthless and imagining worst case scenarios which then creates a horrible thought process? This book goes a long way to helping the reader understand why they do it and also how to combat it (inner voices).

I suffered badly from intrusive thoughts and would spend days/weeks ruminating over them and arguing back against these thoughts which simply perpetuated the pain. It was exhausting, debilitating and rendered life to be unenjoyable, I literally didn’t find joy in anything despite being front, right and centre of occasions that should have been full of happiness. This book completely changed the way I think.

I may be miles off the mark and again, apologies if so, but it would be remiss of me not to suggest it in case it helped. All the best to you 🤝

[andrew70]

Hi Andrew, not sure if you’re into reading/audiobooks but I recently listened to Overcoming Unwanted Intrusive Thoughts by Sally M Winston which is a bit of a game-changer. I could be wrong, and forgive me if so, but with your depression and anxiety I suspect you may have spent a lifetime talking badly to yourself, telling yourself you are worthless and imagining worst case scenarios which then creates a horrible thought process? This book goes a long way to helping the reader understand why they do it and also how to combat it (inner voices).

I suffered badly from intrusive thoughts and would spend days/weeks ruminating over them and arguing back against these thoughts which simply perpetuated the pain. It was exhausting, debilitating and rendered life to be unenjoyable, I literally didn’t find joy in anything despite being front, right and centre of occasions that should have been full of happiness. This book completely changed the way I think.

I may be miles off the mark and again, apologies if so, but it would be remiss of me not to suggest it in case it helped. All the best to you 🤝

Thanks PH.

I’ve done all of that. Will look into this.

Thank you again.

[Pedantic_Hibee]

Thanks PH.

I’ve done all of that. Will look into this.

Thank you again.

No problem, Sir. You’ve got this 💪🏼

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

Posting this from my wife’s hospital bedside, only just woken up from a two hour ish nap, the only sleep I’ve been able to get all night/day. I’m scared, I don’t know what to do and I don’t really know why I’m posting this here I suppose, I think I just need somewhere to be able to admit how terrified I am. Hope everyone is doing well, take care guys.


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[Pedantic_Hibee]

Posting this from my wife’s hospital bedside, only just woken up from a two hour ish nap, the only sleep I’ve been able to get all night/day. I’m scared, I don’t know what to do and I don’t really know why I’m posting this here I suppose, I think I just need somewhere to be able to admit how terrified I am. Hope everyone is doing well, take care guys.


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What’s happened? What is it that’s terrifying you?

[Smartie]

Posting this from my wife’s hospital bedside, only just woken up from a two hour ish nap, the only sleep I’ve been able to get all night/day. I’m scared, I don’t know what to do and I don’t really know why I’m posting this here I suppose, I think I just need somewhere to be able to admit how terrified I am. Hope everyone is doing well, take care guys.


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Might it be worth speaking to one of the nurses helping with your wife’s care about your own situation?

Having an ill relative can be horrifically traumatic for someone and can either initiate or reactivating a previous mental illness.

Nurses can be great not just at looking after your wife but for pointing you in the right direction too.

Whilst I’m sure you’ll get good advice here, certainly well intentioned advice, there’s nothing quite like professional advice and I believe it will be available for you, right where you are.

You just have to be able to hold your hands up, admit you’re struggling and approach someone - which isn’t always easy.

I hope your wife gets better soon and I hope you also get better soon.

All the best.

[s.a.m]

Posting this from my wife’s hospital bedside, only just woken up from a two hour ish nap, the only sleep I’ve been able to get all night/day. I’m scared, I don’t know what to do and I don’t really know why I’m posting this here I suppose, I think I just need somewhere to be able to admit how terrified I am. Hope everyone is doing well, take care guys.


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I don't have useful advice for you, but attending a sick loved one is scary, and the way you're feeling is understandable. Wishing all the best to both of you, and keeping you in my thoughts :aok:

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

What’s happened? What is it that’s terrifying you?

Late last night she suffered a vascular haemorrhage in her neck and had to be rushed in via ambulance. They think they’ve got it under control but they’re not sure what’s caused it. She’s being kept in so she’s in the best place but it’s very much daunting not being able to help because you don’t actually know what’s wrong.


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[McD]

Posting this from my wife’s hospital bedside, only just woken up from a two hour ish nap, the only sleep I’ve been able to get all night/day. I’m scared, I don’t know what to do and I don’t really know why I’m posting this here I suppose, I think I just need somewhere to be able to admit how terrified I am. Hope everyone is doing well, take care guys.


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It can be incredibly tough taking care of and being there for a loved one, not to mention terrifying and worrying.


Try to make sure you’re taking care of yourself too, even though I know how hard that can be. Whether it’s some sleep, eating, giving yourself some headspace to breath, or anything you need. Your wife will need you as fit and healthy as you can be, and won’t want you torturing yourself or making yourself ill.


As has already been said, have a chat with the staff, they will give you the right steer.


Hope things will begin to look up for you and your wife mate

[Pedantic_Hibee]

Late last night she suffered a vascular haemorrhage in her neck and had to be rushed in via ambulance. They think they’ve got it under control but they’re not sure what’s caused it. She’s being kept in so she’s in the best place but it’s very much daunting not being able to help because you don’t actually know what’s wrong.


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First of all, I’m sorry to hear that mate and I hope everything turns out ok. Secondly, to allay your fears a little, both you and your wife are in the best place you can be at this very moment. It’s daunting not knowing what’s wrong, what’s caused it and of course, what’s next, but you’re there by her beside and I’m sure right now there’s nowhere else you’d rather be than with her and holding her hand.

If you’re feeling helpless or hopeless right now, my advice, as wan*y as it sounds, is to write down your feelings. I’ve got an app on my iphone called Morning Pages (completely free). I write in it every day without fail, sometimes just a sentence, sometimes a huge essay. But I write down what I’m doing that day, what I have done, what I’m going to do and how I’m feeling. And it’s amazing how much you can unravel the confusion in your head by simply writing whatever is in your head at that moment. I manually timestamp my entries as sometimes I’ll write multiple times in one day (usually if I’m “reporting back” to confirm I’ve achieved what I set out to do and how it’s made me feel accomplished)

It might be for you, it might not be for you, but if anything it will pass the time and pre-occupy you. Things like this can put everything into perspective, it certainly makes a mockery of all the small and insignificant things we ruminate over and worry about regularly.

Wishing you all the very best, good Sir.