SNP are lying b******s as well !

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Agreed…..all as bad as each other

Not sure they are. The levels of corruption during covid with friends of top tories usually being given multi million pound contracts they clearly couldn’t deliver have it appears never been addressed and little or no convictions. Criminality as you will know should all be dealt with not in a selective manner.

[Hibspur]

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Which party do you vote for?

Varies. Voted SNP when Salmond became FM. Thought he brought some serious clout to the FM role after the Labour/Lib-Dem dullards who preceded him and I liked the way he didn't govern along partisan lines, even forming an unofficial alliance with the Tories to get legislation passed. I wasn't sold on independence though and was very glad I voted no after Sturgeon took over. I think she's the worst thing to have happened to Scottish politics. A toxic, divisive presence who achieved next to nothing. I actually though Davidson had unifying potential as Tory leader and was surprised she stepped back into a cushy Lord's role. Ross seemed like a bit of an eejit, while Findlay's quite a sharp cookie but I think any hopes he had of making his presence felt have been torpedoed by Reform now making their mark in Scotland. So, while I've been a bit disappointed by Sarwar, I'm sticking with Labour for now. Swinney's nobody's idea of an inspirational leader.

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Not sure they are. The levels of corruption during covid with friends of top tories usually being given multi million pound contracts they clearly couldn’t deliver have it appears never been addressed and little or no convictions. Criminality as you will know should all be dealt with not in a selective manner.

There should be a lot of Tories eating porridge and having their assets seized imho after the criminality during Covid, not just Tories, British/Scottish politics seem to be full of self serving professional politicians who have never worked in the real world. Theft is theft regardless of the level committed, but this oooohhh the SNP don’t do that and they are being so unfairly treated amazes me.

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There should be a lot of Tories eating porridge and having their assists seized imho after the criminality during Covid, not just Tories, British/Scottish politics seem to be full of self serving professional politicians who have never worked in the real world. Theft is theft regardless of the level committed, but this oooohhh the SNP don’t do that and they are being so unfairly treated amazes me.

Can you point to any criminality in office or anything akin to what the torys were upto in Westminster by Scottish politicians? Of any hue?

[Kato]

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Can you point to any criminality in office or anything akin to what the torys were upto in Westminster by Scottish politicians? Of any hue?

They are all the same. But some are more the same than others.





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There should be a lot of Tories eating porridge and having their assists seized imho after the criminality during Covid, not just Tories, British/Scottish politics seem to be full of self serving professional politicians who have never worked in the real world. Theft is theft regardless of the level committed, but this oooohhh the SNP don’t do that and they are being so unfairly treated amazes me.

Is that a crime?

[Eaststand]

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Is that a crime?

In the eyes of some bitter, strange people, it clearly is when an SNP politician does so 😂

GGTTH

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In the eyes of some bitter, strange people, it clearly is when an SNP politician does so 😂

GGTTH

No need for the personal digs. I would rather have a politician that has some kind of life and work experience outside politics no matter what party they represented. Too many see politics as a career now, they work for a MP or MSP or in a "Comms role" for the party and they seem to be top of the list come selection.

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In the eyes of some bitter, strange people, it clearly is when an SNP politician does so 😂

GGTTH

To be clear, I'm personally in favour of politicians who have had some life experience other than the political world, hopefully it gives rise to more rounded personalities. I was just surprised to see it come up in a post about politicians getting their collars felt for theft.

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No need for the personal digs. I would rather have a politician that has some kind of life and work experience outside politics no matter what party they represented. Too many see politics as a career now, they work for a MP or MSP or in a "Comms role" for the party and they seem to be top of the list come selection.

I'm the opposite or at least partially. I'd rather see someone who has some kind of apprenticeship in a political environment with political ideals and wish to serve their country move up the political ladder. Better that than some mediocre city trader or Oxford grad who has seen an easy way to make a quick buck.

[Berwickhibby]

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Is that a crime?

No obviously not …but i personally think going to University then sitting in various chambers without life and employment experience is reason enough not to get my vote.

[Berwickhibby]

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In the eyes of some bitter, strange people, it clearly is when an SNP politician does so 😂

GGTTH

Personally I don’t care what party they represent ….. but let’s just chuck in a sly dig as I am not a SNP supporter

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No obviously not …but i personally think going to University then sitting in various chambers without life and employment experience is reason enough not to get my vote.

Much better a university grad who has studied politics or history than some chancer making a sideways move for financial gain.

[Berwickhibby]

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Much better a university grad who has studied politics or history than some chancer making a sideways move for financial gain.

You’re entitled to your opinion …I disagree

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I'm the opposite or at least partially. I'd rather see someone who has some kind of apprenticeship in a political environment with political ideals and wish to serve their country move up the political ladder. Better that than some mediocre city trader or Oxford grad who has seen an easy way to make a quick buck.

The vast majority of work of a MP or MSP is helping constituents with their issues and problems. I would rather have someone who has some kind or understanding or empathy of these "real world" problems than someone who has been to University and then gone straight to work for a MP or MSP and then into being a politician.

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Much better a university grad who has studied politics or history than some chancer making a sideways move for financial gain.

The basic MSP salary is £75K, there are many who would never earn that amount elsewhere I would agree (Ross Greer being a great example) but if you are talented and good at your job you won't be making a move to become a MSP for the money, that's a middle management salary in a big company.

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The basic MSP salary is £75K, there are many who would never earn that amount elsewhere I would agree (Ross Greer being a great example) but if you are talented and good at your job you won't be making a move to become a MSP for the money, that's a middle management salary in a big company.

No fan of Ross Greer but he seems well capable of landing himself a job paying £75k a year. It’s probably easier to get yourself a private sector job at that level then try and get an MSP position. £75k isn’t that high up the pole in private sector. And I’m sure Greer could talk his way to it if he tried.


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The vast majority of work of a MP or MSP is helping constituents with their issues and problems. I would rather have someone who has some kind or understanding or empathy of these "real world" problems than someone who has been to University and then gone straight to work for a MP or MSP and then into being a politician.

Exactly, someone who has seen how to help constituents first hand by serving a defacto apprenticeship as an office assistant or SpAd. You can't fast track experience and I'd rather have someone who's put in the hours do a job for me than some sideways career changer.

[Hibrandenburg]

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The basic MSP salary is £75K, there are many who would never earn that amount elsewhere I would agree (Ross Greer being a great example) but if you are talented and good at your job you won't be making a move to become a MSP for the money, that's a middle management salary in a big company.

The money in politics is not in the salary.

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https://robinmcalpine.org/the-sturgeon-era-control-paranoia-and-vanity/

Even fewer pulled here.

I've always had a bit of time for McAlpine and Common Weal. Someone you can listen to and think yes, I respect your passion for independence.

The Sturgeon era saw passionate and persuasive voices like his sidelined. The other one which springs to mind was the guy behind Wings over Scotland whose name escapes me just now. That was a hugely influential platform for nationalists, really, really incisive. However, I believe it's now very much an anti-SNP vehicle. In fact I think they were among the whistleblowers who sparked the embezzlement investigation.

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I've always had a bit of time for McAlpine and Common Weal. Someone you can listen to and think yes, I respect your passion for independence.

The Sturgeon era saw passionate and persuasive voices like his sidelined. The other one which springs to mind was the guy behind Wings over Scotland whose name escapes me just now. That was a hugely influential platform for nationalists, really, really incisive. However, I believe it's now very much an anti-SNP vehicle. In fact I think they were among the whistleblowers who sparked the embezzlement investigation.

The Wings guy Stuart Campbell is hated now by many Indy supporters but he has predicted a lot of the SNP problems well in advance when the general response was nothing to see and move along. He predicted the fall out from the trans row years ago and was calling out the issues with the finances years ago as well before it hit the media. At the 2014 referendum we had cabinet ministers sharing his information, now because he is anti SNP he is just a bitter loser etc.

[Berwickhibby]

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The Wings guy Stuart Campbell is hated now by many Indy supporters but he has predicted a lot of the SNP problems well in advance when the general response was nothing to see and move along. He predicted the fall out from the trans row years ago and was calling out the issues with the finances years ago as well before it hit the media. At the 2014 referendum we had cabinet ministers sharing his information, now because he is anti SNP he is just a bitter loser etc.

Stuart Campbell was nothing but a grifter….sitting in Bath writing his guff whilst getting hundreds of thousands of pounds in donations …I said that when he was popular and still feel the same.

[Just Alf]

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Stuart Campbell was nothing but a grifter….sitting in Bath writing his guff whilst getting hundreds of thousands of pounds in donations …I said that when he was popular and still feel the same.

Very true...

When he was pro SNP those who were 'anti' SNP were put down as they were commenting on him rather than the data.

Now he's anti SNP , on the flip, side those who disagree with him are accused of , once again commenting on him, rather than the argument itself.








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[Hibs4185]

I commented on an alba party members post last night and hit called a SNP bot, then blocked by two of them when I tried to reply.

Both SNP and Alba are going to fail because they are too stupid to put differences aside and work together for a common goal

[He's here!]

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The Wings guy Stuart Campbell is hated now by many Indy supporters but he has predicted a lot of the SNP problems well in advance when the general response was nothing to see and move along. He predicted the fall out from the trans row years ago and was calling out the issues with the finances years ago as well before it hit the media. At the 2014 referendum we had cabinet ministers sharing his information, now because he is anti SNP he is just a bitter loser etc.

Yes, he's been well ahead of the game when it comes to some of the biggest stories to hit Scottish politics. He'll have built up some good sources down the years.

[Berwickhibby]

According to Wikipedia Campbell Scammed. …sorry crowdfunded over £850k whilst running Wings over Bath

In April 2016, Wings attracted over 250,000 readers a month.[7] It has raised in excess of £850,000[8][9][10][11] since 2013 in a series of crowdfunding initiatives to fund its work.[1]

[Kato]

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According to Wikipedia Campbell Scammed. …sorry crowdfunded over £850k whilst running Wings over Bath

In April 2016, Wings attracted over 250,000 readers a month.[7] It has raised in excess of £850,000[8][9][10][11] since 2013 in a series of crowdfunding initiatives to fund its work.[1]

Didn't he get his "hard drive checked"?











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[Hibspur]

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The Wings guy Stuart Campbell is hated now by many Indy supporters but he has predicted a lot of the SNP problems well in advance when the general response was nothing to see and move along. He predicted the fall out from the trans row years ago and was calling out the issues with the finances years ago as well before it hit the media. At the 2014 referendum we had cabinet ministers sharing his information, now because he is anti SNP he is just a bitter loser etc.

I wasn't actually sure the website was still going, but just had a look and here's his exhaustive piece on Murrell's legal fees:

https://wingsoverscotland.com/too-ti...n/#more-152092

[Hiber-nation]

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I wasn't actually sure the website was still going, but just had a look and here's his exhaustive piece on Murrell's legal fees:

https://wingsoverscotland.com/too-ti...n/#more-152092

Campbell lost all credibility a long time ago but his "finger in the dyke" comment was a new low even by his standards.

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Campbell lost all credibility a long time ago but his "finger in the dyke" comment was a new low even by his standards.

I'm with BerwickH in thinking he has always been sus.

Couldn't give a monkeys about his pro-indy stuff or his anti-SNP stuff. He has always came across as someone who has learned to grift off extreme stances.



























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