(Soon to be) Former President Donald Trump

[jamie_1875]

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I'm not quoting figures dug up from some obscure corner of Google, I'm quoting from the National news on Good Morning Britain which I watched live. Now according to you this is the bastion of truth and honesty with a completely unbiased agenda, are you saying they're lying now I'm lost?

I looked at the Scottish Governments own website, as I said in my previous post it depends entirely on what figures you are talking about. Absolute poverty, relative poverty, poverty with housing costs or poverty without housing costs..?

https://www.gov.scot/publications/poverty-income-inequality-scotland-2014-17/pages/4/

It is estimated that 19% of children, or 180,000 children each year, were in relative poverty before housing costs in 2014-17. This compares to 17% in the previous three-year period.

After housing costs, it is estimated that 24% of children, or 230,000 children each year, were in relative poverty.

And the latest from the SG and the Child Poverty Action Group.

https://cpag.org.uk/news/official-child-poverty-statistics#:~:text=Today's%20official%20Scottish%2 0government%20poverty,working%20age%20adults%20(21 %25).

"The latest statistics show that relative child poverty levels in Scotland are six percentage points lower than the UK average – 23% compared to 30% in 2021-24 (31% England, 31% Wales and 24% NI)"

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Child poverty in Scotland has fallen 12% leaving 21,000 less children in poverty since 2017, child poverty in England and Wales has risen by 15% putting 320,000 more children into poverty since 2017 and that's before the English Government cuts PIP and other benefits which could result in an estimated 50.000 more children going into poverty. Ohh and they're not handouts, that term suggests the people receiving them are some sort of scroungers, is that what you think?

You mean the UK government?

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Is there a Caledonian version of Godwin's Law, one that says "anything wrong with the world is the fault of..... insert your own favourite Scottish demon..."?

Any chance we can save the Scottish ***** for the appropriate threads? There's plenty of them....

Trump anyone?

Whenever I see Starmer, or indeed pretty much any UK politician, harangued over a 'U-turn' (a regular occurrence) it brings home just how much freedom Trump gives himself by never being bound by previous statements. I sometimes wonder whether following suit to a certain extent would actually be a positive thing. I don't mean that Starmer should simply dismiss any or all criticism as 'fake news', but rather than tie himself in knots trying to avoid admitting he's had to back down or compromise, if he simply said, ' Yeh, we didn't get that quite right. I've changed my mind' we might see a more respectful level of discourse.

[Hibspur]

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Child poverty in Scotland has fallen 12% leaving 21,000 less children in poverty since 2017, child poverty in England and Wales has risen by 15% putting 320,000 more children into poverty since 2017 and that's before the English Government cuts PIP and other benefits which could result in an estimated 50.000 more children going into poverty. Ohh and they're not handouts, that term suggests the people receiving them are some sort of scroungers, is that what you think?

Not at all. Just pointing out that the sticking plaster approach won't ever spark significant change. Adequate funding for public services is essential if hard-up families are to access the support they need, yet the Scottish government is falling far short here. Sure, public finances are under huge pressure across the UK, but as I said unless Swinney taps into the wealth which most certainly exists in Scotland and uses the devolved tax-raising powers he has at his disposal to fund public services and deliver on his pledges around child poverty (rather than just continually blame Westminster for all Scotland's ills) there won't be any significant improvement.

Spotted a coffee cup with Trump's police mugshot on it behind the reception desk at my local GP surgery today incidentally. There was some sort of 'mug' pun on it that I couldn't fully make out. Would Sturgeon have had a mug shot taken when she got arrested I wonder?

[Kato]

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Would Sturgeon have had a mug shot taken when she got arrested I wonder?

She did.



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[J-C]

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Grow up.

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Aren't you glad they opened up this board to all and sundry again.

[Kato]

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Aren't you glad they opened up this board to all and sundry again.

Am easy with that. The more the merrier.

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[cabbageandribs1875]

Old Donnie wants the trial for his good friend Bibi cancelled, love the "Breaking News" headline though

[Kato]

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Old Donnie wants the trial for his good friend Bibi cancelled, love the "Breaking News" headline though

There must be plenty bigger battles in the history of Israel, eg they brought down the walls of Jericho by merely, not for the last time apparently, employing trumpets.

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[CropleyWasGod]

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Old Donnie wants the trial for his good friend Bibi cancelled, love the "Breaking News" headline though

He loves the Holy Land so much that he's blowing part of it to ****.

[JimBHibees]

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He hasn't though has he?

You're comparing an elected president to a fringe element of a movement.

For the record it would depend on the context, if Swinney was being as obnoxious and unpleasant as Trump has been then I would want him sacked actually.

If there was some debate to be had over the subject I don't know, it would depend on how I felt about the situation.

Swinney, for all his faults and blandness as a Politician, wouldn't behave the way Trump has anyway.

Trump you would hope would be in prison if he lived here

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[JimBHibees]

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Trump reminds me of Sturgeon in many ways. Endlessly divisive, never wrong, always somebody else's fault

Laughable

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She did.



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[Keith_M]

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Is there a Caledonian version of Godwin's Law, one that says "anything wrong with the world is the fault of..... insert your own favourite Scottish demon..."?

Any chance we can save the Scottish ***** for the appropriate threads? There's plenty of them....

Trump anyone?

You should try reading the comments below articles in the Daily Record. It's usually a maximum of three comments before the SNP get blamed, no matter what the subject.

Trouble in the Middle East? Nicola Sturgeon's fault!

Rise in HIV or Malaria? Bl**dy John Swinney!


It's no surprise some people do it on here as well. These people seem to pop up everywhere.

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You should try reading the comments below articles in the Daily Record. It's usually a maximum of three comments before the SNP get blamed, no matter what the subject.

Trouble in the Middle East? Nicola Sturgeon's fault!

Rise in HIV or Malaria? Bl**dy John Swinney!


It's no surprise some people do it on here as well. These people seem to pop up everywhere.

A lot of people can't stand the SNP.

[JimBHibees]

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You should try reading the comments below articles in the Daily Record. It's usually a maximum of three comments before the SNP get blamed, no matter what the subject.

Trouble in the Middle East? Nicola Sturgeon's fault!

Rise in HIV or Malaria? Bl**dy John Swinney!


It's no surprise some people do it on here as well. These people seem to pop up everywhere.

Yep definitely orchestrated campaign.

[jamie_1875]

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Yep definitely orchestrated campaign.

Who is organising people in a structured way to put comments in the Daily Record online comment section? If it's orchestred then who is behind it?

[Jones28]

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Old Donnie wants the trial for his good friend Bibi cancelled, love the "Breaking News" headline though

He refers to "we" a lot, as in "we" were fighting.

"We" gave orders to people who gave orders to people to drop bombs from 6 miles up in the sky or to blow apart everything they can see with artillery and tank fire.

"We" fought? Don't think so.

This **** is getting more unhinged (less hinged?) by the day.

[Jones28]

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Not at all. Just pointing out that the sticking plaster approach won't ever spark significant change. Adequate funding for public services is essential if hard-up families are to access the support they need, yet the Scottish government is falling far short here. Sure, public finances are under huge pressure across the UK, but as I said unless Swinney taps into the wealth which most certainly exists in Scotland and uses the devolved tax-raising powers he has at his disposal to fund public services and deliver on his pledges around child poverty (rather than just continually blame Westminster for all Scotland's ills) there won't be any significant improvement.

Spotted a coffee cup with Trump's police mugshot on it behind the reception desk at my local GP surgery today incidentally. There was some sort of 'mug' pun on it that I couldn't fully make out. Would Sturgeon have had a mug shot taken when she got arrested I wonder?

She would have done.

Maybe they bin them if you're not charged with anything.

[Hibrandenburg]

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He refers to "we" a lot, as in "we" were fighting.

"We" gave orders to people who gave orders to people to drop bombs from 6 miles up in the sky or to blow apart everything they can see with artillery and tank fire.

"We" fought? Don't think so.

This **** is getting more unhinged (less hinged?) by the day.

He's just another Walt.

[Berwickhibby]

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He's just another Walt.

Exactly 👍

[easty]

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He refers to "we" a lot, as in "we" were fighting.

"We" gave orders to people who gave orders to people to drop bombs from 6 miles up in the sky or to blow apart everything they can see with artillery and tank fire.

"We" fought? Don't think so.

This **** is getting more unhinged (less hinged?) by the day.

As much as I hate to defend the guy, is it really any different from us referring to Hibs as we. We came third last season. We won the Scottish Cup in 2016. "We" did nowt.

[JimBHibees]

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Who is organising people in a structured way to put comments in the Daily Record online comment section? If it's orchestred then who is behind it?

People that don’t like snp

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Iran nuclear: Foreign minister admits serious damage to sites - BBC News https://share.google/vIrHsvCmgDLroiBSV

Trump will trumpet this news no doubt.

[jamie_1875]

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People that don’t like snp

So people are organising themselves to post bad comments about the SNP on the Daily Record online in the comments section, seems unlikely.

[easty]

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So people are organising themselves to post bad comments about the SNP on the Daily Record online in the comments section, seems unlikely.

I don’t think fake orchestrated comments online is in the slightest bit unlikely.

Twitter is rife with it, no reason news paper websites are any different.

[Kato]

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I don’t think fake orchestrated comments online is in the slightest bit unlikely.

Twitter is rife with it, no reason news paper websites are any different.

Happens across all the major social media platforms.

Bots, bad actors, political groups, pressure groups coalescing posts to boost certain opinions or takes on news. Been happening for well over a decade.

If you think it's unlikely Jamie, that's quite naive.

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[jamie_1875]

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Happens across all the major social media platforms.

Bots, bad actors, political groups, pressure groups coalescing posts to boost certain opinions or takes on news. Been happening for well over a decade.

If you think it's unlikely Jamie, that's quite naive.

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As was raised in the Parliament the other day the pro Indy accounts of the Iranian regime on Twitter suddenly stopped the day Israel bombed them. But those comments where quite well crafted and obviously a bit of professionalism to it, I don't think Shug from Glasgow saying he doesn't like the SNP in the Daily Record comments section is in the same league.

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If only the Holy Ground had a forum specifically for discussing the SNP…..

oh, wait a minute!
https://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?...well-!/page383