(Soon to be) Former President Donald Trump

[Bostonhibby]

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All eyes on the opinion polls in the US now. If there's a swing in favour of the orange one now, then strap yourself in for more of what we've just seen.

He wanted a photo opportunity where he looked a bit tough for his cult followers and it looks like he's got it.

UN reporting no increase in radiation around any of the sites bombed so I guess the orange dictator just dismisses them as fake news and moves on to the next big "deal" that takes his personal fancy.



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[JimBHibees]

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I don’t believe them. They see how weak Iran is and are taking a chance in the hope the regime collapses. It’s a long shot but I think that’s what they are going for.
The US getting involved would be a disaster. And the UK should stay well clear but let’s face it, we love a bit of war in the Middle East.


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Neither does anyone capable of coherent thought. Completely agree with your summary

[Keith_M]

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41 this year! Was gutted turning 40 but could turn out to be good!

I just don’t know if they could force me to return if I was in France and had the correct visa etc. At the same time, not sure the French could force me to fight for them?

Hopefully hypothetical of course, unbelievable that we even have to contemplate such things nowadays

You'll probably have to join 'zee resistance' and start every sentence with 'listen very carefully, I shall say this only once'

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He wanted a photo opportunity where he looked a bit tough for his cult followers and it looks like he's got it.

UN reporting no increase in radiation around any of the sites bombed so I guess the orange dictator just dismisses them as fake news and moves on to the next big "deal" that takes his personal fancy.



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Doesn't mean the nuclear facilities weren't hit. Problem is the Fordo facility is reportedly buried so deep that only the US has the bombing capacity to reach it. If they haven't fully destroyed it they'll likely return unless Iran agrees to come back to the negotiating table.

[Bostonhibby]

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Doesn't mean the nuclear facilities weren't hit. Problem is the Fordo facility is reportedly buried so deep that only the US has the bombing capacity to reach it. If they haven't fully destroyed it they'll likely return unless Iran agrees to come back to the negotiating table.

Agreed, has a bit of a "weapons on mass destruction" event to it but I'm convinced this is more about trump's ego than anything else a d he will have moved onto saving somewhere else in a couple of weeks.

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[Ozyhibby]

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Agreed, has a bit of a "weapons on mass destruction" event to it but I'm convinced this is more about trump's ego than anything else a d he will have moved onto saving somewhere else in a couple of weeks.

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Yip. He lacks the focus for anything long term. The Iranians just needs to wait him out. The Israelis are a much bigger threat to their regime with their targeting of the top generals and the IRGC. Trump claiming there is no longer a threat will probably not help the Israelis continue that though.


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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvg9r4q99g4o

This article illustrates just how hard it is to destroy the Fordo facility, even if deploying 'bunker busters'.

[JimBHibees]

So Trump and Israel break more international law. Way to go.

[Bostonhibby]

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So Trump and Israel break more international law. Way to go.

At this rate he will have to award himself the Nobel prize prize he so obviously craves.

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[Hibspur]

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So Trump and Israel break more international law. Way to go.

Iran were found in breach of their non-proliferation agreements by the UN (ie multi-nation) nuclear watchdog a couple of weeks ago. They expressed serious concern at the way the country had been stepping up its supply of highly enriched uranium by 50% in just three months - well above the level required for civilian purposes and enough to create a dozen nuclear weapons if further refined. Not hard to guess what their intentions are. They're not an innocent victim here.

It's no real surprise Israel took matters into their own hands and the West will privately have been grateful to them for doing its dirty work, despite the token calls for 'de-escalation'. If they'd waited for the EU or relevant legal bodies to give them the green light they'd likely have no country left to defend.

[Moulin Yarns]

Is it okay for countries that have nuclear weapons to bomb other countries that don't? 🤔

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Is it okay for countries that have nuclear weapons to bomb other countries that don't? 🤔

Guilty of thought crime - thinking of having nuclear weapons.

[The Tubs]

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Iran were found in breach of their non-proliferation agreements by the UN (ie multi-nation) nuclear watchdog a couple of weeks ago. They expressed serious concern at the way the country had been stepping up its supply of highly enriched uranium by 50% in just three months - well above the level required for civilian purposes and enough to create a dozen nuclear weapons if further refined. Not hard to guess what their intentions are. They're not an innocent victim here.

It's no real surprise Israel took matters into their own hands and the West will privately have been grateful to them for doing its dirty work, despite the token calls for 'de-escalation'. If they'd waited for the EU or relevant legal bodies to give them the green light they'd likely have no country left to defend.

Is this the agreement that Israel isn't a signatory to? How can you enforce something you don't participate in? Not that this is the enforcement mechanism, of course.

The IAEA said a couple of days ago that Iran isn't developing a nuclear weapon.

I'm sure lots of centrist European governments are not in favour of this. It takes the focus off Ukraine, there's even more economic uncertainty and the risk of more refugees rises.

[Ozyhibby]

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Iran were found in breach of their non-proliferation agreements by the UN (ie multi-nation) nuclear watchdog a couple of weeks ago. They expressed serious concern at the way the country had been stepping up its supply of highly enriched uranium by 50% in just three months - well above the level required for civilian purposes and enough to create a dozen nuclear weapons if further refined. Not hard to guess what their intentions are. They're not an innocent victim here.

It's no real surprise Israel took matters into their own hands and the West will privately have been grateful to them for doing its dirty work, despite the token calls for 'de-escalation'. If they'd waited for the EU or relevant legal bodies to give them the green light they'd likely have no country left to defend.

Might is right?


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[Bostonhibby]

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Might is right?


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Got me thinking about what the orange guy is going to do about his wee pal in North Korea who actually has nuclear weapons and occasionally fires them into the sea in the general direction of less aggressive nations as well as uttering Trump like noises at the world generally and is a Putin ally.

Might should be right here too?

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[JimBHibees]

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Iran were found in breach of their non-proliferation agreements by the UN (ie multi-nation) nuclear watchdog a couple of weeks ago. They expressed serious concern at the way the country had been stepping up its supply of highly enriched uranium by 50% in just three months - well above the level required for civilian purposes and enough to create a dozen nuclear weapons if further refined. Not hard to guess what their intentions are. They're not an innocent victim here.

It's no real surprise Israel took matters into their own hands and the West will privately have been grateful to them for doing its dirty work, despite the token calls for 'de-escalation'. If they'd waited for the EU or relevant legal bodies to give them the green light they'd likely have no country left to defend.

Even the US intelligence community said recently zero evidence. I get Iran aren’t innocent however if i was them i would be trying to get weapons also with such an extreme Israeli government backed by US and UK. No point having international law violating it then expecting the other counties to come to the table. The hypocrisy is off the scale countries with enormous nuclear arsenals attacking other countries with none and literally bombing them to stop them. There is zero higher moral ground here. US and no doubt us by association will need to be prepared for mass terrorist casualties i would have thought. Idiotic what is going on at the moment no surprise when the gullible vote in an absolute imbecile

[The_Exile]

Trump lives in a 24/7 reality TV show, his brain is wired to try to win votes and look "strong" and be "the best", he's a ****ing loony and a narcissist to boot. All this does is make the US a prime target for terror attacks. Iran will attack from the shadows, cyber attacks etc, they have plenty resources to fund long ongoing attempts at god knows what on US shores. If I were one of the thousands of US military personnel stationed outwith the US (think around 10k are in Bahrain, for example) my arse would be going at a rate of knots right now.

[MKHIBEE]

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Is this the agreement that Israel isn't a signatory to? How can you enforce something you don't participate in? Not that this is the enforcement mechanism, of course.

The IAEA said a couple of days ago that Iran isn't developing a nuclear weapon.

I'm sure lots of centrist European governments are not in favour of this. It takes the focus off Ukraine, there's even more economic uncertainty and the risk of more refugees rises.

American intelligence services have said the same thing.

[tamig]

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Might is right?


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Hibspur could replace Daniel Higari as the official IDF spokesperson. Same stuff trotted out day after day.

[MKHIBEE]

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Iran were found in breach of their non-proliferation agreements by the UN (ie multi-nation) nuclear watchdog a couple of weeks ago. They expressed serious concern at the way the country had been stepping up its supply of highly enriched uranium by 50% in just three months - well above the level required for civilian purposes and enough to create a dozen nuclear weapons if further refined. Not hard to guess what their intentions are. They're not an innocent victim here.

It's no real surprise Israel took matters into their own hands and the West will privately have been grateful to them for doing its dirty work, despite the token calls for 'de-escalation'. If they'd waited for the EU or relevant legal bodies to give them the green light they'd likely have no country left to defend.

The same could be said of any amount of enriched uranium held by any country. No one has yet provided solid evidence that Iran are building a nuclear weapon, or have a nuclear weapons programme. With the west having been caught lying about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq maybe they are being a bit more cautious about spouting ****.

[tamig]

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Trump lives in a 24/7 reality TV show, his brain is wired to try to win votes and look "strong" and be "the best", he's a ****ing loony and a narcissist to boot. All this does is make the US a prime target for terror attacks. Iran will attack from the shadows, cyber attacks etc, they have plenty resources to fund long ongoing attempts at god knows what on US shores. If I were one of the thousands of US military personnel stationed outwith the US (think around 10k are in Bahrain, for example) my arse would be going at a rate of knots right now.

I think I may have mentioned this a long time ago, but I always thought there was a possibility of Trump bringing the Purge movie franchise to reality if he was voted back in. I don’t think its too mad a thought.

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- yes I’m loving ICE raids.

https://santanero.org/2025/06/21/lan...e-marine-sons/

Narciso Barranco of Tustin has been identified by his eldest son—Alejandro, a Marine veteran who served in Afghanistan—as the man violently detained by U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) agents Saturday in Santa Ana. Barranco was at his landscaping job at the IHOP off Edinger and Ritchey when the incident occurred.

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Please don’t insinuate I’m racist. Garcia’s deportation was due to him being a member of a designated terror group (MS-13). His asylum claim was a stalling tactic by his lawyer that the Biden administration let him away with. The guy is a gang member who was beating his wife and her children. ...

So you keep worrying about this ‘innocent’ guy if you like but I’m LOVING IT.

In ruling that she will order his release soon, Judge Holmes expressed doubt that Kilmar Abrego Garcia is a member of MS-13.

He has no criminal history, and the claim is contradicted by the government's evidence, she wrote.

[Jim44]

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Trump lives in a 24/7 reality TV show, his brain is wired to try to win votes and look "strong" and be "the best", he's a ****ing loony and a narcissist to boot. All this does is make the US a prime target for terror attacks. Iran will attack from the shadows, cyber attacks etc, they have plenty resources to fund long ongoing attempts at god knows what on US shores. If I were one of the thousands of US military personnel stationed outwith the US (think around 10k are in Bahrain, for example) my arse would be going at a rate of knots right now.

Apt description of 50% of US voters.

[Paulie Walnuts]

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In ruling that she will order his release soon, Judge Holmes expressed doubt that Kilmar Abrego Garcia is a member of MS-13.

He has no criminal history, and the claim is contradicted by the government's evidence, she wrote.

McBizz will not be loving that.

[Ozyhibby]

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McBizz will not be loving that.

He saw the tats that clearly said MS-13.


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Is Trump at fault for Iran's development of nuclear centrifuges? He cancelled Obama's deal which limited their development.

[Lendo]

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Is Trump at fault for Iran's development of nuclear centrifuges? He cancelled Obama's deal which limited their development.

Of course he is. Cancelled the Iran deal purely out of spite and jealousy of Obama.

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Just seen this. Uncanny from Sasha Baron Cohen in 2012

https://youtube.com/shorts/FPFNb-EUD...HsVNeoxZDZcCHv