Depression and anxiety

[judas]

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I get this too mate I completely understand what you’re going through. It’s gotten to the point where I have ended up with calluses on the end of my toes from curling them inside my shoes repeatedly, usually when something is worrying me. My home life has been a bit of a nightmare recently with my mrs going through testing for cancer and having to pick up the slack with housework etc. as all the scans along with the illness has left her pretty much bed bound for the past few weeks, which has been compounding my stress levels. I’m not complaining, I understand that she’s not well and I’ll have to do what I can to help but it’s a lot to take on s well as a busy work schedule


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Thanks to both you and Liam for your support. I think I am winning at the moment.

Regarding your particular challenge Erin, you have a lot on your spinning plates there.

Be good to yourself, most people would struggle.

Know that there are people out there who understand.

[LustForLeith]

Hi folks

The first SoS drop in of 2025 is Monday 27 January.

Helping men tackle mental health through football.

We’re meeting at the famous five stand at 7pm and we’ll be in the Community Foundation hub.

It’s safe, confidential and free and open to all, not just Hibs fans

💚💚💚

[The_Exile]

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I get this too mate I completely understand what you’re going through. It’s gotten to the point where I have ended up with calluses on the end of my toes from curling them inside my shoes repeatedly, usually when something is worrying me. My home life has been a bit of a nightmare recently with my mrs going through testing for cancer and having to pick up the slack with housework etc. as all the scans along with the illness has left her pretty much bed bound for the past few weeks, which has been compounding my stress levels. I’m not complaining, I understand that she’s not well and I’ll have to do what I can to help but it’s a lot to take on s well as a busy work schedule


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Hope you're keeping ok mate, it's a big ask keeping a house going on top of work too and it can get on top of you very quickly. I'm on my own with two teenage lads and I just focus on one task at a time, earphones in, audiobooks/podcasts, helps me focus on something other than the job at hand, so to speak, which seems to help me when I'm in the midst of the housework. Take care of yourself .

[CropleyWasGod]

Wondering if anyone here has, or knows someone who has, issues with eating disorders.

It's an aspect of mental health that doesn't get a lot of attention, for a number of reasons.

I've been doing a bit of work around it recently. I'm nowhere near an expert, but happy to have a chat (either here or in PM) with anyone affected, and maybe point them down the road I'm going down .... as well as pick brains :)

[judas]

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Hi folks

The first SoS drop in of 2025 is Monday 27 January.

Helping men tackle mental health through football.

We’re meeting at the famous five stand at 7pm and we’ll be in the Community Foundation hub.

It’s safe, confidential and free and open to all, not just Hibs fans

💚💚💚

Great initiative thank you.

[CropleyWasGod]

Has anyone had any experience with the Ladz app?

https://www.ladzapp.co.uk/

[Tambo]

I hope everyone is doing well in these hard times.

I have finally decided it's time to give the wacky backy a knock on the head after 24 years of heavy use, my last puff was wednesday night and I woke up Thursday think enough is enough.

Didn't eat anything Thursday or Friday but I have managed to eat some soup today but am really struggling in how to cope without the weed, went out for a walk eailer but didn't last long as it felt I was about to pass out, I understand this wont be easy and the first few weeks will be like hell but I'm adamant to not go and buy anymore.

I'm not sure if it's a good idea to try some CBD oil or gummies, addiction is a horrible disease.

[Bridge hibs]

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I hope everyone is doing well in these hard times.

I have finally decided it's time to give the wacky backy a knock on the head after 24 years of heavy use, my last puff was wednesday night and I woke up Thursday think enough is enough.

Didn't eat anything Thursday or Friday but I have managed to eat some soup today but am really struggling in how to cope without the weed, went out for a walk eailer but didn't last long as it felt I was about to pass out, I understand this wont be easy and the first few weeks will be like hell but I'm adamant to not go and buy anymore.

I'm not sure if it's a good idea to try some CBD oil or gummies, addiction is a horrible disease.

Hi Tambo, have you thought about having some counselling to enable yourself to sit down with someone professional to discuss your addiction ?

Obviously you are dealing with the physical aspects of withdrawal but they could support you with coping strategies etc. Ive mentioned the counselling a few times on this thread, no appointment needed, just drop in and they will assess you before assigning you with a councillor specific to your needs.

Not sure of your locality but there are two drop in centres that I am aware off, one at Craigmillar medical centre and one at the old church building behind the hibs West stand, thats the one I attended, lovely supportive people who made me feel very relaxed.

Whatever path you choose mate I wish you the very best and hope you can kick your addiction.

[Jones28]

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I hope everyone is doing well in these hard times.

I have finally decided it's time to give the wacky backy a knock on the head after 24 years of heavy use, my last puff was wednesday night and I woke up Thursday think enough is enough.

Didn't eat anything Thursday or Friday but I have managed to eat some soup today but am really struggling in how to cope without the weed, went out for a walk eailer but didn't last long as it felt I was about to pass out, I understand this wont be easy and the first few weeks will be like hell but I'm adamant to not go and buy anymore.

I'm not sure if it's a good idea to try some CBD oil or gummies, addiction is a horrible disease.

Good luck man, well done for taking steps to make changes 👍

I don’t have any practical advice but just wanted to wish you all the best.

[McD]

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I hope everyone is doing well in these hard times.

I have finally decided it's time to give the wacky backy a knock on the head after 24 years of heavy use, my last puff was wednesday night and I woke up Thursday think enough is enough.

Didn't eat anything Thursday or Friday but I have managed to eat some soup today but am really struggling in how to cope without the weed, went out for a walk eailer but didn't last long as it felt I was about to pass out, I understand this wont be easy and the first few weeks will be like hell but I'm adamant to not go and buy anymore.

I'm not sure if it's a good idea to try some CBD oil or gummies, addiction is a horrible disease.

Good luck mate, all power to you

[CropleyWasGod]

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I hope everyone is doing well in these hard times.

I have finally decided it's time to give the wacky backy a knock on the head after 24 years of heavy use, my last puff was wednesday night and I woke up Thursday think enough is enough.

Didn't eat anything Thursday or Friday but I have managed to eat some soup today but am really struggling in how to cope without the weed, went out for a walk eailer but didn't last long as it felt I was about to pass out, I understand this wont be easy and the first few weeks will be like hell but I'm adamant to not go and buy anymore.

I'm not sure if it's a good idea to try some CBD oil or gummies, addiction is a horrible disease.

Similar to the previous advice about counselling.....

Hypnotherapy might help in dealing with the cravings. It can help to refocus your mind on those other things that you could be doing with your time.

[Tambo]

Thanks all, I've not thought about counselling just yet as I am just trying to take It one day at a time but I do have an amazing mother who is always there for me and has come around to make me some homemade soup, I will admit i am craving still but that's only natural, I have got rid og all my paraphernalia like my grinder etc and trying to keep my mind busy with other things.

[Keith_M]

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Thanks all, I've not thought about counselling just yet as I am just trying to take It one day at a time but I do have an amazing mother who is always there for me and has come around to make me some homemade soup, I will admit i am craving still but that's only natural, I have got rid og all my paraphernalia like my grinder etc and trying to keep my mind busy with other things.

Best of luck mate

[Tambo]

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Best of luck mate

Thank you, i am on day 11 today and i will admit i am really struggling with cravings and my sleep pattern is a joke at the moment even though i am feeling like i have no energy at all. My appetite has really improved, i just don't have the energy to do any physical activity or even want to leave the house.

I really cant afford to be on the sick anymore so going to have to try and go back to work next week.

[Bridge hibs]

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Thank you, i am on day 11 today and i will admit i am really struggling with cravings and my sleep pattern is a joke at the moment even though i am feeling like i have no energy at all. My appetite has really improved, i just don't have the energy to do any physical activity or even want to leave the house.

I really cant afford to be on the sick anymore so going to have to try and go back to work next week.

I get the lack of energy mate, when I was at my lowest with my depression I couldnt be arsed shaving or changing clothes, I just sat in the house wearing my shorts and the thought of going out made me feel physically sick.

My Wife had to return to work as she was nursing me through my worst times and didnt leave my side. Then on the day she returned to work I had a massive anxiety attack and started pacing the house, I had to get out of this box.

Grabbed my ruck sack, stuck a 6kg kettle bell in it with a bottle of water and then headed out. I walked from Porty high school to Musselburgh harbour then back along the beach front to Portobello, up to Duddingston golf course and finally climbed to the top of Arthurs seat.

I was so ****ing emotional but I was buzzing and wanted to do it all again, I took photos of my journey and sent them to my Wife who was understandably stunned that I had actually left the house for the first time in 6 months.

I got such a buzz and lift from that and I started doing it regularly, I started talking to people en route to wherever I was walking to, the energy is there mate believe me, you just have to waken it up.

Good luck

[CropleyWasGod]

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Thank you, i am on day 11 today and i will admit i am really struggling with cravings and my sleep pattern is a joke at the moment even though i am feeling like i have no energy at all. My appetite has really improved, i just don't have the energy to do any physical activity or even want to leave the house.

I really cant afford to be on the sick anymore so going to have to try and go back to work next week.

Totally empathise with you on the energy thing. That feeling of lethargy is always a sign for me that something is in the post.

Conversely, I also know that exercise is the go-to that works for me. It can be a real struggle convincing my body that my mind will feel better if I just get out for a bit.

That all said, it's baby steps for you. Your appetite is better, which is one of those baby steps. That will fuel your body to get moving. The post above this one is a cracking example of how you can take a few more steps.

[Liam89]

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Thank you, i am on day 11 today and i will admit i am really struggling with cravings and my sleep pattern is a joke at the moment even though i am feeling like i have no energy at all. My appetite has really improved, i just don't have the energy to do any physical activity or even want to leave the house.

I really cant afford to be on the sick anymore so going to have to try and go back to work next week.

You've got this mate :)

[Tambo]

Cheers all, i have been saying in my head i will get back to lifting some small weights again but by the time i get up the day has almost gone and then back to the same cycle of watching tv and playing fm manager lol

I have no idea about CBD and if it would be any good for me at this stage.

Anyway day 12 today clean.

[Stairway 2 7]

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Cheers all, i have been saying in my head i will get back to lifting some small weights again but by the time i get up the day has almost gone and then back to the same cycle of watching tv and playing fm manager lol

I have no idea about CBD and if it would be any good for me at this stage.

Anyway day 12 today clean.

That's impressive mate, keep going

[CropleyWasGod]

Interesting development at the Royal Ed.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cyvjy7m3vmdo

Anyone had any experience with ketamine (in a non-recreational way)?

[Bridge hibs]

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Interesting development at the Royal Ed.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cyvjy7m3vmdo

Anyone had any experience with ketamine (in a non-recreational way)?

No but that sounds very interesting, my depression was bad enough but this reads like off the scale depression particularly when the only other major treatment was the brutal ECT, as always though and sadly until it becomes available on the NHS folk will not be able to afford the costs of £6000 per session meaning further and prolonged suffering.

On a similar vein I see the diabetic/weight loss drug Mounjaro is going to be provided to NHS patients in England who meet the criteria and Im sure is already available in the US at $1000 per months treatment.

Obesity is linked to mental health issues, at least it played a major part in my depression and my GP prescribed me with Mounjaro 3 weeks ago and once you are over the side affects it has been brilliant, improvement in mind and body.

[CropleyWasGod]

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No but that sounds very interesting, my depression was bad enough but this reads like off the scale depression particularly when the only other major treatment was the brutal ECT, as always though and sadly until it becomes available on the NHS folk will not be able to afford the costs of £6000 per session meaning further and prolonged suffering.

On a similar vein I see the diabetic/weight loss drug Mounjaro is going to be provided to NHS patients in England who meet the criteria and Im sure is already available in the US at $1000 per months treatment.

Obesity is linked to mental health issues, at least it played a major part in my depression and my GP prescribed me with Mounjaro 3 weeks ago and once you are over the side affects it has been brilliant, improvement in mind and body.

That's interesting, and encouraging. Can I ask what side-effects you had?

[Bridge hibs]

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That's interesting, and encouraging. Can I ask what side-effects you had?

Yes, very bloated feeling after eating a small amount of food, a lot of wind, hurricane levels at times, changes to bowel habits however thats to be expected , burping often and thats before eating or drinking. I can handle the farting and burping but what I suppose affected me most was I started getting heartburn daily, mostly in the mornings and particularly at night when I was lying in bed.

That was on 3mg and most of the side affects went within the start of second week. Im now on 7mg and all is good. Im on the tablet form of Semaglutide, they start you on a low dose and then increase it gradually.

[CropleyWasGod]

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Yes, very bloated feeling after eating a small amount of food, a lot of wind, hurricane levels at times, changes to bowel habits however thats to be expected , burping often and thats before eating or drinking. I can handle the farting and burping but what I suppose affected me most was I started getting heartburn daily, mostly in the mornings and particularly at night when I was lying in bed.

That was on 3mg and most of the side affects went within the start of second week. Im now on 7mg and all is good. Im on the tablet form of Semagutide, they start you on a low dose and then increase it gradually.

Ta. Sounding good.

I work (as a hypnotherapist) with clients who want to lose weight without resorting to fad diets or medication. Im some cases, though (and this holds for other MH-related conditions too), the best approach is to combine different forms of treatment.

It's always good to know what else is out there, and its pros and cons.

[Bridge hibs]

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Ta. Sounding good.

I work (as a hypnotherapist) with clients who want to lose weight without resorting to fad diets or medication. Im some cases, though (and this holds for other MH-related conditions too), the best approach is to combine different forms of treatment.

It's always good to know what else is out there, and its pros and cons.

Yeah Ive done all the fad diets in the past and I must admit I saw them as a kind of competition, for example I attended a Scottish Slimmers class in Musselburgh, it was a laugh and everyone supported each other whether you lost, put on or stayed the same.

Im competitive though and week in week out I was determined to beat everyones losses which I did most weeks, it was a win win for me, in fact I lost so much weight I was put forward for the annual awards to represent Musselburgh but I declined, I just enjoyed the competition.

Things eventually took a turn for the worst and mentally I couldnt get into the right frame of mind, I was so physically ill as a result of my diabetes that I knew I had to take a different approach to very much save my life.

These tablets, I see them as a chemical gastric band, theres no placebo effect to trick the mind. The tablet simply reacts to the receptors in your brain that tells you that you are hungry, to describe it a simpler way, this in turn reduces and slows down the gastric emptying effectively making you feel fuller without the need to continue stuffing your face.

Its not a magic bullet though and I still have to do my bit, I still have to watch my portion sizes as you would with any weight loss plan, also choosing healthier options, more protein and less carbs added with a sprinkle of exercise.

[Sylar]

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Yeah Ive done all the fad diets in the past and I must admit I saw them as a kind of competition, for example I attended a Scottish Slimmers class in Musselburgh, it was a laugh and everyone supported each other whether you lost, put on or stayed the same.

Im competitive though and week in week out I was determined to beat everyones losses which I did most weeks, it was a win win for me, in fact I lost so much weight I was put forward for the annual awards to represent Musselburgh but I declined, I just enjoyed the competition.

Things eventually took a turn for the worst and mentally I couldnt get into the right frame of mind, I was so physically ill as a result of my diabetes that I knew I had to take a different approach to very much save my life.

These tablets, I see them as a chemical gastric band, theres no placebo effect to trick the mind. The tablet simply reacts to the receptors in your brain that tells you that you are hungry, to describe it a simpler way, this in turn reduces and slows down the gastric emptying effectively making you feel fuller without the need to continue stuffing your face.

Its not a magic bullet though and I still have to do my bit, I still have to watch my portion sizes as you would with any weight loss plan, also choosing healthier options, more protein and less carbs added with a sprinkle of exercise.

This rather resonates with me just now. I've been struggling mentally quite a bit lately and when that happens, I don't really eat well or take care of myself. As a T2 diabetic, that usually results in a spiral and I see my blood sugars regularly spiking or staying elevated, which further fuels my poor mental health.

I'm glad you're finding a way to tackle your issues! I don't think I'm eligible for a lot of the newer medications coming to market for diabetes treatment as I'm not your typical 'diagnosed later in life body-type'. I'm pretty healthy (BMI is considered 'normal') and fit (run relatively regularly), so I mostly just try and manage with diet/light medication. Some days are just darker/harder...

[Bridge hibs]

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This rather resonates with me just now. I've been struggling mentally quite a bit lately and when that happens, I don't really eat well or take care of myself. As a T2 diabetic, that usually results in a spiral and I see my blood sugars regularly spiking or staying elevated, which further fuels my poor mental health.

I'm glad you're finding a way to tackle your issues! I don't think I'm eligible for a lot of the newer medications coming to market for diabetes treatment as I'm not your typical 'diagnosed later in life body-type'. I'm pretty healthy (BMI is considered 'normal') and fit (run relatively regularly), so I mostly just try and manage with diet/light medication. Some days are just darker/harder...

I was a skinny minny for years and literally unable to put on a gram of weight, I had a very physical and active job with a rubbish diet but I was burning up so much energy daily as well as training twice a week and playing football.

I got married and then it was downhill from there, Im not blaming my Wife but I made a few changes to my lifestyle, holidays, eating out more, all the stuff I didnt do as a young lad, and then the kids came along and that increased tenfold, I gave up the training and the football and became more of a couch tattie.

Gradually the belt loosened and my tops got tighter and in fact I saw it as a novelty, I had never put weight on before and I actually found it funny, I never took it seriously even when the nickname “Podge” started getting banded about.

Fast forward many years later and its no ****ing laughing matter now as it wasnt just about bigger sizes, I couldnt see the internal damage. Kidney infections, urinary infections leading to an op at the Western, fatigue followed by depression, I was fighting battles from all fronts but significantly losing them all.

I done all this to myself and I have no-one else to blame but me, it was my chosen path and these are the consequences as a result. Things have improved greatly since Ive switched to Semagutide so fingers crossed I can maintain things.

Good luck to you mate, hope you can get yourself sorted.

[Tambo]

My dreams have been really vivid the past few weeks, one was a nightmare of me getting dragged out of bed which I've only experienced twice in my life and felt real.

[CropleyWasGod]

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My dreams have been really vivid the past few weeks, one was a nightmare of me getting dragged out of bed which I've only experienced twice in my life and felt real.

Is that perhaps linked with not using weed? Were you dreaming when you were using it?

Some people just don't dream when they are.

[Tambo]

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Is that perhaps linked with not using weed? Were you dreaming when you were using it?

Some people just don't dream when they are.

I would have them now and again but yeah from some research on google it is common to get them often when not smoking it, i enjoy dreaming just some of them are very vivid and feels like real life.

Currently doing some small weights which I'm enjoying.