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    Quote Originally Posted by Up-the-slope View Post
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    Surely that's the wrong way round? If true then he can't talk to anyone without Hibs permission and I would doubt we would do that without a deal agreed?
    Or since it's been known for a while that Hibs are prepared to consider letting him go because he doesn't want to be here maybe he already has permission to speak to other clubs?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Up-the-slope View Post
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    Surely that's the wrong way round? If true then he can't talk to anyone without Hibs permission and I would doubt we would do that without a deal agreed?
    Maybe he has Hibs permission on the premise that a fee has to be agreed if he finds a club.

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    What have Venlo got to do with it?
    Not one of Tina Turners best songs

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    Surely that's the wrong way round? If true then he can't talk to anyone without Hibs permission and I would doubt we would do that without a deal agreed?
    I think it's common place these days,. probably through agents? There is probably no point in agreeing a fee with a club if you find out you can't afford the players terms?

    I may be wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Up-the-slope View Post
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    Surely that's the wrong way round? If true then he can't talk to anyone without Hibs permission and I would doubt we would do that without a deal agreed?
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    It’s common now for a club to allow a player to discuss terms before a fee is agreed (see Wirtz and Liverpool as a high profile recent example).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Up-the-slope View Post
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    Surely that's the wrong way round? If true then he can't talk to anyone without Hibs permission and I would doubt we would do that without a deal agreed?
    To me it’s the easiest way to do it, Hibs just come in at the end when wages and conditions have been agreed.

    I couldn’t imagine Hibs complaining about Vente agreeing terms with a club

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pytheas View Post
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    I wasn't so much suggesting that Hibs get him, just that they find a club for him that isn't a direct rival of the club they part own?

    On paper there's probably never been a better chance for Hibs to split the OF (a stated target of BK at Hibs) in the last 25 years and now they are helping Rangers with their rebuild?

    Just seems odd to me.
    What if he's crap with a bad attitude? Maybe there's a method in their madness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Since452 View Post
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    Not one of Tina Turners best songs
    Made me laugh, lol.

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    Not one of Tina Turners best songs
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    Not one of Tina Turners best songs
    Her duet with Sir Alex was a deserving chart-topper though. "Vey Pwoud Mary"

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    Quote Originally Posted by B.H.F.C View Post
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    The guy will be on a Premier League wage miles out of our reach even if we are both part of the same group. I don’t think it’s realistic that we could expect Bournemouth never to trade with anyone up here, just as we’d still trade to other teams down there (if we have a player good enough). Man City for example, I’d expect to still loan or sell players to other teams in Spain even though Girona are part of the City Football Group. The Red Bull teams will loan or sell players to teams competing against other teams for the group and so on.
    Players selling for millions on wages we can’t get near is no problem but loaning players to aberdeen, hearts, st.mirren etc should be a no go for them makes zero sense to strengthen competitors in the same league as a club they part own

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    Quote Originally Posted by CapitalGreen View Post
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    Coleman, Young and Walker, how many veteran right backs do they need.
    Young has left the club.

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    And now it looks like Bournemouth are sending a quality player (Max Aarons) on loan to rangers. Bit weird no? Have they not said they want us to challenge the top 2?
    They are looking to offload him, they agreed an option to buy with Valencia last season which Valencia didn't take up. They're probably hoping to get a similar deal with Rangers. They'll also be trying to get as much of his wages off the books as they can. We could never afford his wages or transfer fee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dmas View Post
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    Players selling for millions on wages we can’t get near is no problem but loaning players to aberdeen, hearts, st.mirren etc should be a no go for them makes zero sense to strengthen competitors in the same league as a club they part own
    You are pretty much saying they can't loan to anyone else in the Scottish Prem but us. A loan player to Livingston could cost us a win. Where do you draw the line? Then Bournemouth have the same problem in France. Portugal. Australia.

    And what if we want to take a player on loan from one of Bournemouth's rivals? Should hibs be progressing the career's of their direct rivals players?

    It gets silly and the group becomes a hindrance rather than a help. Bournemouth look after Bournemouth. Hibs look after hibs. If we can share information to benefit all that is one thing. If we're tying each other's hands I'm not so keen.

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    Young has left the club.
    Coleman was considering retirement as well, I reckon the Walker signing may be confirmation that he has decided to retire and join the coaching staff.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sergio sledge View Post
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    They are looking to offload him, they agreed an option to buy with Valencia last season which Valencia didn't take up. They're probably hoping to get a similar deal with Rangers. They'll also be trying to get as much of his wages off the books as they can. We could never afford his wages or transfer fee.
    Exactly. I thought it would be weird if Paulson went on loan to St Mirren, this is different for me. Aarons is never a player we’d get cause he wouldn’t want to join us.

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    Andy Robertson rumoured to be leaving Liverpool for Atletico Madrid… didn’t realise he was 31 now .

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    The idea that Bournemouth shouldn't send a player to Rangers is just mad imo. He's a player that's miles above our standard of signing so as others have said he was never going to end up here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Centre Hawf View Post
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    The idea that Bournemouth shouldn't send a player to Rangers is just mad imo. He's a player that's miles above our standard of signing so as others have said he was never going to end up here.
    I'm not sure I agree - seems counter intuitive for BKFC to help strengthen a team that finished 1 place above us last season, they're supposed to be helping us bridge that gap.
    I'm sure there'd be other suitors for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yerauldda View Post
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    I'm not sure I agree - seems counter intuitive for BKFC to help strengthen a team that finished 1 place above us last season, they're supposed to be helping us bridge that gap.
    I'm sure there'd be other suitors for him.
    Player needs to want the move as well though. I hate them, but Huns probably look an attractive move right now, new manager who he's worked with before, new owners, European football every season.

    Or it could all just be paper talk and Aarons ends up somewhere else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnM1875 View Post
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    Player needs to want the move as well though. I hate them, but Huns probably look an attractive move right now, new manager who he's worked with before, new owners, European football every season.

    Or it could all just be paper talk and Aarons ends up somewhere else.
    Of course, definitely not as cut and dry as 'Bournemouth send player to Rangers' and there'll be other factors at play.
    Just feels odd there's a willingness on BKFC's part.

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    I absolutely get all the chat about players being loaned to us by the BKG, but still find it a bit disappointing we aren’t seeing players coming to us we’d never have got if it wasn’t for the tie up. After all it was one of the things we were told to expect when the deal was done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffers View Post
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    I absolutely get all the chat about players being loaned to us by the BKG, but still find it a bit disappointing we aren’t seeing players coming to us we’d never have got if it wasn’t for the tie up. After all it was one of the things we were told to expect when the deal was done.
    Do find that quite frustrating as well. It’s only been Maoloda and Marcondes, both of those straight away and into a team unfortunately managed by Montgomery.

    Expected a few more like that in the following windows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffers View Post
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    I absolutely get all the chat about players being loaned to us by the BKG, but still find it a bit disappointing we aren’t seeing players coming to us we’d never have got if it wasn’t for the tie up. After all it was one of the things we were told to expect when the deal was done.
    I do think we might see some good quality players come in from Lorient this year. They walked the league this year and will be looking to improve their squad now they are back in top flight. I imagine we might get one or two who would be in and around the squad but not starting or a talented youngster who's just off starting for them. That's my hope anyway. I don't think there is anyone at Bournemouth either good enough or who would want to come here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Centre Hawf View Post
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    The idea that Bournemouth shouldn't send a player to Rangers is just mad imo. He's a player that's miles above our standard of signing so as others have said he was never going to end up here.
    It is a bit mad in fairness that because of our partnership with Bournemouth that folk would think they wouldn’t do deals with other clubs in our league . It’s like the chat about Paulsen in it really didn’t suit either party for him to come on loan to us but maybe a team like Dundee Utd or St Mirren would have .

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    Quote Originally Posted by yerauldda View Post
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    I'm not sure I agree - seems counter intuitive for BKFC to help strengthen a team that finished 1 place above us last season, they're supposed to be helping us bridge that gap.
    I'm sure there'd be other suitors for him.
    The reality is that BKFC/Bournemouth have their own club to worry about and Aarons will be sooking up a wage that they'll not want to pay out anymore, and if Rangers are willing to offer them the most amount of money for him then they'll take it.

    They're not going to do us a favour and hold onto him and pay about £2m in wages in the off chance we can catch Rangers. It's a total dream world scenario if anyone thinks that's how they should operate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donegal Hibby View Post
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    It is a bit mad in fairness that because of our partnership with Bournemouth that folk would think they wouldn’t do deals with other clubs in our league . It’s like the chat about Paulsen in it really didn’t suit either party for him to come on loan to us but maybe a team like Dundee Utd or St Mirren would have .
    The Paulsen one makes a bit more sense as he's at our level and those teams are our direct competitors. But if Hibs don't want him then that's on us if he ends up elsewhere in the league.

    Bournemouth paid the money for him and they'll want him to develop accordingly to either play for them or sell him for a decent profit, he's not going to sit on the bench or in the stands at Bournemouth because no one in the set up wanted him this year. Being in this multiclub set up doesn't just exclude you from doing business with other teams outside of it.

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