What's the latest with Youan?

[Billy Bunter 07]

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That doesn’t make sense.

A player isn’t costing the club by not being worth as much as you want him to be.

I cannae even begin to work out how you’ve come up with that

Course it does Andy.
Last year he was valued over £2m to the club when looking to sell. Now he’s worth monkey nuts as well as contributing hee haw for yonks. We should have had a much better end result with the guy.

[Billy Bunter 07]

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You’re spot on. We should have a player who’s been wonderful over the last 18 months but unfortunately he’s stunk the place out , hardly played. We should be looking at between £1m-£2m but we’d be lucky to get £500,000 at the minute.

Exactly, thanks!

[KazaHibs]

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I think Hibs and Elie Youan need a fresh start. I don't see him being able to play as a wingback and I'm not convinced he is an out and out striker who can play as 1 of the 2 front options.

I'd disagree with this. He was at his best a while back playing up top. Scored a fair few goals up there. Played him wide left and it just never suited. Unfortunately another Hibs player played out of position and we've suffered because of it

[Donegal Hibby]

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You’re spot on. We should have a player who’s been wonderful over the last 18 months but unfortunately he’s stunk the place out , hardly played. We should be looking at between £1m-£2m but we’d be lucky to get £500,000 at the minute.

Stunk the place out , really? . He’s hardly played because of injuries which can happen to any player . As to his value most players value drop as they get near the end of their contract , if we had SJM on a lengthy contract before he left we would have been in a far stronger position to negotiate a bigger fee though at the end of the day we can say player ‘A’s’ valuation is £3m or £4m but the reality is a player is only worth what another team is willing to pay .

[Billy Bunter 07]

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Stunk the place out , really? . He’s hardly played because of injuries which can happen to any player . As to his value most players value drop as they get near the end of their contract , if we had SJM on a lengthy contract before he left we would have been in a far stronger position to negotiate a bigger fee though at the end of the day we can say player ‘A’s’ valuation is £3m or £4m but the reality is a player is only worth what another team is willing to pay .

Yes. He’s been rotten. Dress it up how you want he’s been a massive disappointment in his Hibs career.
As to his value, most players value increases the further they get toward their peak. Youan even with multiple years on his contract if he had at the moment would be worth less than Youan of two years back. There’s a massive reason for that and it’s not just a couple of injuries. He couldn’t get near our bench for the last few months.

[superfurryhibby]

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You’re spot on. We should have a player who’s been wonderful over the last 18 months but unfortunately he’s stunk the place out , hardly played. We should be looking at between £1m-£2m but we’d be lucky to get £500,000 at the minute.

The tripe is ripe with this one.

[CapitalGreen]

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Yes. He’s been rotten. Dress it up how you want he’s been a massive disappointment in his Hibs career.
As to his value, most players value increases the further they get toward their peak. Youan even with multiple years on his contract if he had at the moment would be worth less than Youan of two years back. There’s a massive reason for that and it’s not just a couple of injuries. He couldn’t get near our bench for the last few months.

Youan only returned to full training at the end of April/start of May.

The duo returned to full team training earlier this week, and our Head Coach discussed their availability.

“Elie joined training later on this week, as did Lewis Miller, which is great, they’re getting fit at the right sort of time.

From the gaffers press conference of May 2nd - https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/2...iller---youan/

[Bobo]

2022-2023 (Loan Spell):
* 36 Scottish Premiership appearances
* 9 goals
* 7 assists

2023-2024:
* 31 Scottish Premiership appearances
* 5 goals
* 4 assists

2024-2025:
* 13 Scottish Premiership appearances
* 2 goals
* 1 assist

16 goals and 12 assists in 80 SPFL matches.

Hibs were right to sign Ellie on the merit of his initial loan spell but sadly he's never really met the expectations that his permanent signing raised.

He's looked decent, when interested, but that's seldom been the case and is highlighted by the return of just 7 goals and 5 assists, in the SPFL, in the past 18 months.

IMO we should have offloaded him in Jan 2024 and cut our losses then.

[Billy Bunter 07]

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Youan only returned to full training at the end of April/start of May.



From the gaffers press conference of May 2nd - https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/2...iller---youan/

He came off the bench against Celtic start of march

[EGL2000]

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Some trying to convince themselves Youan has been anything but a massive disappointment who will cost the club millions based on the past 18 months I see.

Still my favourite player to watch in a Hibs shirt. I've loved seeing him play at Hibs.

[RIP]

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I'd disagree with this. He was at his best a while back playing up top.

Scored a fair few goals up there. Played him wide left and it just never suited.

Unfortunately another Hibs player played out of position and we've suffered because of it

Elie was signed as an attacker. Good with both feet, fast, tricky he should have been running at defences from day one. But with the focus on slow possession and deep-lying wingback he was misused, often picking up the ball 40 yards from the keeper with 9 men between him and the goalmouth.

When he has been available to Gray this season he has been played in his most threatening position. One of SDGs strengths is finding round holes for round pegs. And finding roles for players that they most enjoy and allow them to flourish.

With Gayle and Myko gone, and Hoilett's future uncertain we only have Boyle, Bowie and Youan in the forward division. The suggestion that on our budget we will be easily be able to recruit a fourth striker to join that pool is speculative. So, is it any wonder that Gray has was making positive statements about Elie last month?

Let's see how Youan gets on this summer before writing him off completely

[SickBoy32]

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2022-2023 (Loan Spell):
* 36 Scottish Premiership appearances
* 9 goals
* 7 assists

2023-2024:
* 31 Scottish Premiership appearances
* 5 goals
* 4 assists

2024-2025:
* 13 Scottish Premiership appearances
* 2 goals
* 1 assist

16 goals and 12 assists in 80 SPFL matches.

Hibs were right to sign Ellie on the merit of his initial loan spell but sadly he's never really met the expectations that his permanent signing raised.

He's looked decent, when interested, but that's seldom been the case and is highlighted by the return of just 7 goals and 5 assists, in the SPFL, in the past 18 months.

IMO we should have offloaded him in Jan 2024 and cut our losses then.

Good summary.

I think this should put a stop to all the hyperbole on here regarding his ‘exceptional’ talents.

A decent player when he fancies it, but as you’ve alluded to - these occasions are all too infrequent.

If we’re serious about looking to improve the squad this is some obvious low hanging fruit IMO.

[Donegal Hibby]

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Yes. He’s been rotten. Dress it up how you want he’s been a massive disappointment in his Hibs career.
As to his value, most players value increases the further they get toward their peak. Youan even with multiple years on his contract if he had at the moment would be worth less than Youan of two years back. There’s a massive reason for that and it’s not just a couple of injuries. He couldn’t get near our bench for the last few months.

I don’t think he’s been rotten at all . I think he’s been unfortunate with injuries in recent times which is disappointing for everyone including the player too.

You don’t often see player’s value increase as they near the end of their contract , there’s many , many cases of this and one of the most current ones was Newcastle’s efforts to sign Marc Guehi last season when they had 5 or 6 bids rejected with the last one reported to be around £60m with Palace reportedly wanting £70m . I think he’s entering his last year now and the fee for him is being rumoured to be around £40m .

I don’t know what’s going to happen with Youan in will he move on this summer or stay and it’s possibly he could still be an important player for us , he definitely has the quality and ability to be .


As to all the conspiracy theories about him our manager hasn’t in anyway given any indication that there’s a problem with the players attitude etc . I think a lot of what’s been said about the player faking injury, refusing to play is just pure speculation and is much like the keepie- up fiasco in folk are to eager to make accusations at the player when he’s done absolutely nothing wrong .

[Smartie]

The problem with Youan is that both of the highly polarised factions in this debate have decent justification for their positions.

For a player of his undoubted ability he hasn’t contributed an adequate end product for that ability. We can continue to argue all day and all night about how much of that is down to his head or his body but bottom line is he’s not contributed enough.

He always feels like he’s just on the cusp of getting fit, finding his best position and finally coming good. For whatever reason, he never does.

At our worst during our good run though, I always thought we looked a fit Elie Youan short of being what we needed to be. We needed a talent to unlock a defence, to turn one point into 3. At times we were a bit bland and could really have done with him at those times.

I think he fits perfectly into our 352 up front.

He’s an unpredictable player and I wouldn’t like to predict what he does next - leave for a pittance this summer, leave for a fortune this summer, stay and have the season of his life, stay and be injured for the season, sign a new contract…

That’s just him.

[InvertedFullBak]

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The tripe is ripe with this one.

Thats some statement.

[Billy Bunter 07]

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The tripe is ripe with this one.

Explain as to why it’s tripe? Because it isn’t and don’t just take the lazy option and claim the players been injured for the best part of two years. The guy has wanted out the club and downed tools.

[superfurryhibby]

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Explain as to why it’s tripe? Because it isn’t and don’t just take the lazy option and claim the players been injured for the best part of two years. The guy has wanted out the club and downed tools.

Read the thread, It's been explained repeatedly. The lazy option is to just keep repeating the same rubbish. He downed tools......aye, sure he did. Shakes head in disbelief.

[CapitalGreen]

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Explain as to why it’s tripe? Because it isn’t and don’t just take the lazy option and claim the players been injured for the best part of two years. The guy has wanted out the club and downed tools.

He failed a medical for a move in January.

[Billy Bunter 07]

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Read the thread, It's been explained repeatedly. The lazy option is to just keep repeating the same rubbish. He downed tools......aye, sure he did. Shakes head in disbelief.

In your opinion it’s repeated rubbish but you haven’t explained why.

It’s fact he wants out the club and has done for two years.

It’s actually lazy to blame everything on mysterious injuries.

[Donegal Hibby]

I really don’t know where this stuff comes from in he’s downed tools , refusing to play, faking injuries etc when there is no evidence of it . David Gray is a year in the Hibs job and the impression I get from him is he’s fair but nobody’s fool either . There’s never been one inkling from the manager that the player has been a problem.

[superfurryhibby]

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In your opinion it’s repeated rubbish but you haven’t explained why.

It’s fact he wants out the club and has done for two years.

It’s actually lazy to blame everything on mysterious injuries.

No, what's lazy is for you and a couple of other folk to repeat ad-nauseam the same stuff without a shred of foundation. Statements about, downed tools, taking a wage etc, etc.

It's been explained many times, but for the hard of thought........ Once again, he's been injured.

[Billy Bunter 07]

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I really don’t know where this stuff comes from in he’s downed tools , refusing to play, faking injuries etc when there is no evidence of it . David Gray is a year in the Hibs job and the impression I get from him is he’s fair but nobody’s fool either . There’s never been one inkling from the manager that the player has been a problem.

He’s not played him for the best part of a season, even when fit. Ask yourself why.

[Billy Bunter 07]

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No, what's lazy is for you and a couple of other folk to repeat ad-nauseam the same stuff without a shred of foundation. Statements about, downed tools, taking a wage etc, etc.

It's been explained many times, but for the hard of thought........ Once again, he's been injured.

So he didn’t want to leave?

Do you believe he’s played to the best of his ability?

Why do you have to be so rude towards others that don’t share your lazy based opinion?

Facts tell me he wants to leave, facts tell me he’s argued
With fans telling them he hopes not to be at the club, my eyes tell me wasn’t trying as hard as he was when he first joined at the start of last season, facts tell me he was hardly selected by Sir Dave when he was available sporadically. Facts tell me the club valued him at £2m when bids came in two years back and will be considerably lower now. Facts tell me he’s been a massive disappointment over the past two years after his initial
Start. Argue all you want claim he was injured all the time but I’m saying that you are guessing.

[Billy Bunter 07]

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He failed a medical for a move in January.

He was injured in’s November so that works out. I there’s a long period from Fev to May though and he came off the bench the start of March.

[superfurryhibby]

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So he didn’t want to leave?

Do you believe he’s played to the best of his ability?

Why do you have to be so rude towards others that don’t share your lazy based opinion?

Facts tell me he wants to leave, facts tell me he’s argued
With fans telling them he hopes not to be at the club, my eyes tell me wasn’t trying as hard as he was when he first joined at the start of last season, facts tell me he was hardly selected by Sir Dave when he was available sporadically. Facts tell me the club valued him at £2m when bids came in two years back and will be considerably lower now. Facts tell me he’s been a massive disappointment over the past two years after his initial
Start. Argue all you want claim he was injured all the time but I’m saying that you are guessing.

Believe what you want, but none of that is fact. Just poorly informed negativity .

He was injured. Whether he wanted a move or not.

[Billy Bunter 07]

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Believe what you want, but none of that is fact. Just poorly informed negativity .

He was injured. Whether he wanted a move or not.

He wasn’t injured the whole of the time. Fact again. Lazy to suggest otherwise.

[Donegal Hibby]

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He’s not played him for the best part of a season, even when fit. Ask yourself why.

I don’t have to ask myself . I’ve listened to the manager state he’s had injuries and set backs and not once saying anything negative about the player which is good enough for me .

This is very much like the keepie- uppie fiasco when folk were trying to create issues when there were absolutely none there and now the latest scandal we have …

Youan is faking his injuries ,downing tools , refusing to play because he doesn’t want to be here while also managing to find a way to fail a medical to another club which has nothing to do with him being genuinely injured but the real reason is because……………………..…………….. he doesn’t want to be here ? 😂

[Billy Bunter 07]

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]I don’t have to ask myself . I’ve listened to the manager state he’s had injuries and set backs and not once saying anything negative about the player which is good enough for me .[/B]

This is very much like the keepie- uppie fiasco when folk were trying to create issues when there were absolutely none there and now the latest scandal we have …

Youan is faking his injuries ,downing tools , refusing to play because he doesn’t want to be here while also managing to find a way to fail a medical to another club which has nothing to do with him being genuinely injured but the real reason is because……………………..…………….. he doesn’t want to be here ? 😂

Hes not played him when fit. Many times he hasn't even mentioned Youan.

You genuinely believe there is no issues with the player? Seriously?

I didn't say the majority of what you have typed so don't put words in my mouth, cheers. He's asked to leave the club on numerous times - fact. He hasn't been injured all of the season - fact. He was ***** the majority of last season in my opinion too.

You stick to your fantasy story, based on absolutely no logical reason over the past two whole years he is going to turn his Hibernian career around next season though. And if he doesny you can always fall back on blaming the supporters who pay to go to watch the games.

[ancient hibee]

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Hes not played him when fit. Many times he hasn't even mentioned Youan.

You genuinely believe there is no issues with the player? Seriously?

I didn't say the majority of what you have typed so don't put words in my mouth, cheers. He's asked to leave the club on numerous times - fact. He hasn't been injured all of the season - fact. He was ***** the majority of last season in my opinion too.

You stick to your fantasy story, based on absolutely no logical reason over the past two whole years he is going to turn his Hibernian career around next season though. And if he doesny you can always fall back on blaming the supporters who pay to go to watch the games.

Forgive me for interrupting a private argument but can you quote the proof of Youan asking to leave numerous times,

[Billy Bunter 07]

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Forgive me for interrupting a private argument but can you quote the proof of Youan asking to leave numerous times,

Sorry I'm not his agent mate.

He wants to leave, the club have been open to offers for him if a certain price is matched. Its to the credit and the player it's not been played out in public but lets not kid on it isn't public knowledge.

There's no argument going on either, private or not. Only a little bit of childish name calling.