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    Lots of mixed options on Porteous from Watford fans mostly quite negative

    Lots of mixed opinions on Rocky on here, but sure most would be happy for him to stay!

    A bit of me would like to see a combination of Rocky and Porteous next year, not sure how it would work, but it could, and if it did I suspect it would give us a very aggressive defence, in the right way.

    Both very good players and both likely to make mistakes I hear you say, true, but I still say that is the same of any defender, especially the ones in Scotland. I prefer to think of how domineering they could be over the physical attackers in the league, I think Porteous played on right of back 3 at Watford didn't he? Not sure that would be his best position, for some reason I would think he might be more grounded, and covered better if he goes wandering, in a back 4, but not sure of any evidence to back that up.

    He is definitely the type of player we should be going for, the slight hesitation is who it means we are losing to get him

    Another one where time will tell!


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    Lots of mixed opinions on Rocky on here, but sure most would be happy for him to stay!

    A bit of me would like to see a combination of Rocky and Porteous next year, not sure how it would work, but it could, and if it did I suspect it would give us a very aggressive defence, in the right way.

    Both very good players and both likely to make mistakes I hear you say, true, but I still say that is the same of any defender, especially the ones in Scotland. I prefer to think of how domineering they could be over the physical attackers in the league, I think Porteous played on right of back 3 at Watford didn't he? Not sure that would be his best position, for some reason I would think he might be more grounded, and covered better if he goes wandering, in a back 4, but not sure of any evidence to back that up.

    He is definitely the type of player we should be going for, the slight hesitation is who it means we are losing to get him

    Another one where time will tell!
    Porteous divides opinions no doubt but whether you want him back or not this a cracking post from a Watford fan ...

    He's a wholehearted player, that's for sure and nobody could accuse him of not giving it his all. He's also had some very good games, interspersed with some awful ones.

    He's made some goal-saving blocks and tackles, while contributing one or two up the other end.

    But....

    It's not so much the lunging, sliding, buffeting and jostling etc that I mind. Nobody likes a lilly livered, cowering violet for a defender. It's the lack of discipline in doing what you're *supposed* to be doing. Not being where you're supposed to be. Leaving big gaps behind you along with a 15 yard long muddy skidmark from where your sliding tackle missed....

    I don't know why he doesn't like it in Watford, by far Britain's most splendid and beautiful town and county, but if he doesn't like us then he can stick his forth up his firth and vice versa.

    Sell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoboHarry View Post
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    Porteous divides opinions no doubt but whether you want him back or not this a cracking post from a Watford fan ...

    He's a wholehearted player, that's for sure and nobody could accuse him of not giving it his all. He's also had some very good games, interspersed with some awful ones.

    He's made some goal-saving blocks and tackles, while contributing one or two up the other end.

    But....

    It's not so much the lunging, sliding, buffeting and jostling etc that I mind. Nobody likes a lilly livered, cowering violet for a defender. It's the lack of discipline in doing what you're *supposed* to be doing. Not being where you're supposed to be. Leaving big gaps behind you along with a 15 yard long muddy skidmark from where your sliding tackle missed....

    I don't know why he doesn't like it in Watford, by far Britain's most splendid and beautiful town and county, but if he doesn't like us then he can stick his forth up his firth and vice versa.

    Sell.
    Only good thing about Watford, is they have a Costco

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    To be fair if Rocky's next club ever looked at this forum to gauge what we thought of him you'd find a lot of criticism too so I'm not that worried about what Watford fans think of Porteous.

    Fans are fickle and Porto started well at Watford before falling off, but then again that place is as up and down as they come and can imagine it's difficult to get any stability there, for me I'd welcome him back regardless of what it means for Rocky's situation.

    He's a good footballer who has experience at a big stage with Scotland and played a lot of games in a strong league in the Championship, and the added benefit of he should be coming into the peak period of his career means it should be a no brainer of a move for a club like us before you take into account his connection with us. I will concede he would have to cut out some of the billy big bollocks stuff and be a real leader and not just a shouter though as he came across as if he thought he was the finished product when here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Whizz View Post
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    Only good thing about Watford, is they have a Costco
    So does Conroe where I live so they can keep Watford

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    Seems to be gathering pace, if true he is a huge upgrade on Ekpiteta and O'Hora and he's' better than Miller and Rocky.
    Would rather miller or rocky any day of the week. It's less the rash stuff with Porto (and there can be a lot of that) and more the berating of team mates, all about me, etc. Our team spirit is incredible right now. I would hate to see that disrupted.
    Only my view of course. I trust DG to know best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoboHarry View Post
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    Porteous divides opinions no doubt but whether you want him back or not this a cracking post from a Watford fan ...

    He's a wholehearted player, that's for sure and nobody could accuse him of not giving it his all. He's also had some very good games, interspersed with some awful ones.

    He's made some goal-saving blocks and tackles, while contributing one or two up the other end.

    But....

    It's not so much the lunging, sliding, buffeting and jostling etc that I mind. Nobody likes a lilly livered, cowering violet for a defender. It's the lack of discipline in doing what you're *supposed* to be doing. Not being where you're supposed to be. Leaving big gaps behind you along with a 15 yard long muddy skidmark from where your sliding tackle missed....

    I don't know why he doesn't like it in Watford, by far Britain's most splendid and beautiful town and county, but if he doesn't like us then he can stick his forth up his firth and vice versa.

    Sell.
    Thats pretty funny. Tend to agree with most of it.

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    Wouldn’t want Porto back yet

    Too much indiscipline

    Too much baggage on the pitch

    Target for refs

    We’re quite fine at the moment

    Rocky or not

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    Quote Originally Posted by K-Zazu View Post
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    Lots of mixed options on Porteous from Watford fans mostly quite negative
    Fortunately I’ve seen enough of Porteous to not require the opinions of Watford fans to form my opinion. Part of a defence that was the best outwith the OF in back to back seasons and our 2nd best defensive record since we won the league in 1951.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CapitalGreen View Post
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    Fortunately I’ve seen enough of Porteous to not require the opinions of Watford fans to form my opinion. Part of a defence that was the best outwith the OF in back to back seasons and our 2nd best defensive record since we won the league in 1951.

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    Would be happy with Porto back. He’s an international defender and massive Hibee. Good to have a few fans in the team who know what it’s all about here.

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    Would be happy with Porto back. He’s an international defender and massive Hibee. Good to have a few fans in the team who know what it’s all about here.
    A season or 2 with SDG who will know him inside out might be exactly what he needs.

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    A season or 2 with SDG who will know him inside out might be exactly what he needs.
    Absolutely. Look what SDG has done for other players at the club. Rocky was considered a complete no hoper (by me anyway) and now we are all desperate to keep him.

    Confident our manger could bring the best out of Porto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicho87 View Post
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    Wouldn’t want Porto back yet

    Too much indiscipline

    Too much baggage on the pitch

    Target for refs

    We’re quite fine at the moment

    Rocky or not
    ...Have to agree with you m8.

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    I think Porteous coming back would change him as a player and person.

    Before he was probably of the opinion he’d get a move to a higher level etc

    Coming back I think he’d realise that Hibs are his future and at the age of 26, he’d be an experienced player who has a good chance of being captain.

    I like to think he’d realise with that and especially with VAR, he can’t get away with half the things he previously done.

    He needs to come back, fully concentrated and be a leader.

    If he does that then we have a hell of a player on our hands and he has an oppertunity for more international appearances

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    I'd welcome Porteous back - and in saying that SDG would also be well within his rights to say "you need to buy into my game plan - we won more derbies since you left than we ever did with you in the team. Let's work together and make more great on-field moments"

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    A season or 2 with SDG who will know him inside out might be exactly what he needs.
    Absolutely, a man he'll know very well and respect infinitely.

    If it happened, SDG is the correct man to get the best out of him.

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    Gray will know Porteous better than anyone. He was his captain when he broke through and then coached him. He’d only have him back if he thinks he can trust him so if there is anything in the rumours, then I’d be pretty comfortable with it.

    Once you get past that, I think he’s a better player than O’Hora and Ekpiteta so I’d be happy enough to see him back on that basis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Springbank View Post
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    I'd welcome Porteous back - and in saying that SDG would also be well within his rights to say "you need to buy into my game plan - we won more derbies since you left than we ever did with you in the team. Let's work together and make more great on-field moments"
    What a weird thing that would be for a manager to say to a potential signing.

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    Would rather miller or rocky any day of the week. It's less the rash stuff with Porto (and there can be a lot of that) and more the berating of team mates, all about me, etc. Our team spirit is incredible right now. I would hate to see that disrupted.
    Only my view of course. I trust DG to know best.
    Agree with this.

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    Absolutely no desire from me personally to see Porteous back at Hibs. A decent player, a boyhood fan but cost us far too many times with his rash decision making. Dont think he would fit into our back 3 set up presently in any case. Our defence at the moment is as solid as its been for years and see no real reason to tinker with it. We should only be bringing in players who suit this current system.

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    No to Porteous for me.

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    Absolutely no desire from me personally to see Porteous back at Hibs. A decent player, a boyhood fan but cost us far too many times with his rash decision making. Dont think he would fit into our back 3 set up presently in any case. Our defence at the moment is as solid as its been for years and see no real reason to tinker with it. We should only be bringing in players who suit this current system.
    Why wouldn't he suit playing in a back 3 for hibs when he has played and was comfortably one of Scotland top performers in said formation?

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    Why wouldn't he suit playing in a back 3 for hibs when he has played and was comfortably one of Scotland top performers in said formation?
    He had a handful of games there for Scotland but top performer is a bit of a stretch. He had an absolute disaster at the euros and hes hardly featured for Scotland since as far I'm aware. He hasn't developed since he's been away. I would have him over Ekpiteta but he certainly wouldn't be a starter and given his ego I can't see him settling for that. For that reason it's a no from me but personal opinion and all that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Since452 View Post
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    No to Porteous for me.
    Can't see it happening he'll have better offers in the EFL championship.

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    He had a handful of games there for Scotland but top performer is a bit of a stretch. He had an absolute disaster at the euros and hes hardly featured for Scotland since as far I'm aware. He hasn't developed since he's been away. I would have him over Ekpiteta but he certainly wouldn't be a starter and given his ego I can't see him settling for that. For that reason it's a no from me but personal opinion and all that.
    Wouldn't say it was a stretch, defensively against Spain at home (even away albeit losing the game 2-0) he was immense in both games.

    Cyprus, Norway, 2x Georgia - excellent in all. The 0-0 against Ukraine was motm if I'm not mistaken?

    Bar the mistake he made in Germany he was excellent in a Scotland shirt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cabbage-Patch View Post
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    Absolutely no desire from me personally to see Porteous back at Hibs. A decent player, a boyhood fan but cost us far too many times with his rash decision making. Dont think he would fit into our back 3 set up presently in any case. Our defence at the moment is as solid as its been for years and see no real reason to tinker with it. We should only be bringing in players who suit this current system.
    It's as solid as it has been since the 20/21 and 21/22 seasons, where we conceded less goals per game in the league. Incidentally, the last 2 full seasons Porteous played for Hibs.

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    I'd take porteous back in a heartbeat, especially under gray.

    I think RP would see the uptake in Rocky's form and think he'd be playing under a head coach who he played with who will make him a better player.

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    Massive yes for me for Porto.

    The market of players who were really good in Scotland (which Porto was), then don’t quite cut it down south, is a good market to shop in IMO.

    It was less than a year ago he was a Scotland first choice CB. He can make that position his again with bit of good form. It’s been a while since we had player regularly in the Scotland squad which probably says a lot about his ability when he’s at his best.

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    Would also be huge for our homegrown quota for europe

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