Why is Edinburgh so filthy?

[hibsbollah]

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

I was up in Shetland this last week and found it so refreshing.

No potholes. No litter. No dog ****. Clean, neat and tidy.

I know Shetland, and I know it’s ****ing grim in the winter and often not much better in the summer bar the longer days. Luckily enough I had some beautiful weather and swam in the sea twice and went for a couple of runs.

It baffles me how these idyllic rural areas manage to be free of litter, noise and pollution. Its almost like they have different pressures on their infrastructure than cities do

[Jones28]

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

It baffles me how these idyllic rural areas manage to be free of litter, noise and pollution. Its almost like they have different pressures on their infrastructure than cities do

Fair point - I live in south central Scotland in a rural community plagued with dog ****, litter and potholes too though.

[hibsbollah]

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

Fair point - I live in south central Scotland in a rural community plagued with dog ****, litter and potholes too though.

I know, slightly mischievous on my part!

Its a political discussion for me, and i don’t frequent the Holy Ground anymore so it may have been discussed before, but from my political standpoint if you cut funding to local authorities year after year for decades, the agencies who look after the public space, there is only going to be one outcome. Degrading the public space is a political choice.

[Hibspur]

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

I know, slightly mischievous on my part!

Its a political discussion for me, and i don’t frequent the Holy Ground anymore so it may have been discussed before, but from my political standpoint if you cut funding to local authorities year after year for decades, the agencies who look after the public space, there is only going to be one outcome. Degrading the public space is a political choice.

I'm not convinced lack of respect for other people's property has much to do with politics, but I did think the Scottish government's decision to extend the council tax freeze under Humza Yousaf was nuts. Councils had been starved of funds for long enough, although in saying that I'm not sure how much faith we can place in councils to invest the funds they do have wisely.

[Jack]

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

I know, slightly mischievous on my part!

Its a political discussion for me, and i don’t frequent the Holy Ground anymore so it may have been discussed before, but from my political standpoint if you cut funding to local authorities year after year for decades, the agencies who look after the public space, there is only going to be one outcome. Degrading the public space is a political choice.

While I generally agree with you I had a wee job driving a wee van around centralish Scotland; being retired my wife and I used to take day trips on the bus all over the place.

The difference between well looked after places and the grubbier ones is/was stark.

If some Councils can do it why can't others? I think there's more to it than Central Government funding.

If it's political then the cynic in me might think in Edinburgh it's a Labour council trying to embarrass a SNP Government on their own doorstep.

[Jones28]

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

I know, slightly mischievous on my part!

Its a political discussion for me, and i don’t frequent the Holy Ground anymore so it may have been discussed before, but from my political standpoint if you cut funding to local authorities year after year for decades, the agencies who look after the public space, there is only going to be one outcome. Degrading the public space is a political choice.

It is to a point. But people don’t fling litter out their windows because of a lack of bins to dump it in.

It’s something in the mindsets of the people that do.

[hibsbollah]

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

It is to a point. But people don’t fling litter out their windows because of a lack of bins to dump it in.

It’s something in the mindsets of the people that do.

You mean like ‘gardyloo!’? There’s an historic element to this then, weve been like this for hundreds of years

In terms of the council pressure, ill give you an example. Last week when we got unbroken sunshine and 20 degrees for a couple of days, i cycled theough the meadows in the evening and back to work again at 7 the next morning. There were many hundreds of people out after 8pm drinking barbecueing, mucking about and a lot of toffs and students and all sorts. There must have been many thousands there through the afternoon all told. By the next morning it was fairly bad with bins overflowing, litter piled on top of already filled bins, and probably an epic amount of work for the council teams. But it was already looking decent by the evening commute. I also doubt whether littering is that much worse now than it was back in the day. I remember’litterbug’ campaigns back when i was at school. Theres just more of us living cheek by jowl now, certainly more of us eating and drinking out of the home environment as well.