(Soon to be) Former President Donald Trump

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https://news.bgov.com/bloomberg-gove...one-day-notice

The Department of Homeland Security is halting policies that allowed some employees to work flexible arrangements, giving workers less than a day’s notice to start a five-day, in-person schedule.

“All employees are expected to report to their assigned duty station five days a week, beginning tomorrow April 28, 2025,” says an internal email.

One day's notice to change all your working arrangements.

[Bristolhibby]

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https://news.bgov.com/bloomberg-gove...one-day-notice



One day's notice to change all your working arrangements.

Madness. I work for a Government Department and there is no way we can have everybody in. We sold a good chunk of the real estate during COVID. Also, the IT infrastructure. There simply aren’t enough desks anymore.

J

[Keith_M]

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Some news on the potential Trade Deal between the UK and the US.

Trump has 'hinted' to Starmer that Turnberry hosting the UK Open would be 'very helpful'.



I can't give a newspaper link, this is from a senior member of management at Turnberry (who was apparently raging about how absurd it was)

And there we are, they're actually going along with it.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...olf-tournament

Kissing the Ass of the big Orange Guy.

[matty_f]

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I’m not sure there’s much he does understand.

I always used to think that whilst his actions were stupid, they were calculated and deliberate, arguably intelligent even but in a sinister way. I flip flop between stupidity and sinister actions, but for the last few weeks I think I’m gradually starting to just think he is genuinely thick as mince.

I don’t say this to be facetious but I honestly don’t know how anyone, and I include folk with only a bare minimum grasp of the English language, can listen to him talk and conclude anything other than he’s a ****ing moron.

He hasn’t the brain to be sinister and make it look accidental. He’s an evil, narcissistic, ****ing idiot.

This is an adult businessman who talked about windmills giving you cancer, about injecting yourself with bleach to cure Covid, who thought electric boats would electrocute you at sea, who calls everything beautiful, who is a pathological liar, a sex offender, a fraudster…

He’s a ****ing idiot. No question about it.

It takes one monologue from him for you to understand how stupid the fat **** is. He can barely string a coherent sentence together, he’s an imbecile.

It’s absolutely mental that he’s found himself as president twice.

[silverhibee]

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I don’t say this to be facetious but I honestly don’t know how anyone, and I include folk with only a bare minimum grasp of the English language, can listen to him talk and conclude anything other than he’s a ****ing moron.

He hasn’t the brain to be sinister and make it look accidental. He’s an evil, narcissistic, ****ing idiot.

This is an adult businessman who talked about windmills giving you cancer, about injecting yourself with bleach to cure Covid, who thought electric boats would electrocute you at sea, who calls everything beautiful, who is a pathological liar, a sex offender, a fraudster…

He’s a ****ing idiot. No question about it.

It takes one monologue from him for you to understand how stupid the fat **** is. He can barely string a coherent sentence together, he’s an imbecile.


It’s absolutely mental that he’s found himself as president twice.

And what does all that say about the people that voted him in, some of these people are absolutely bonkers who have clearly been brainwashed in to believing he would deliver for the people of America and he has brought carnage and folk are still backing him, the folk who never voted for him now must be terrified if they speak out they could end up in prison and lose everything, scary times and it will only get worse with him.

[matty_f]

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And what does all that say about the people that voted him in, some of these people are absolutely bonkers who have clearly been brainwashed in to believing he would deliver for the people of America and he has brought carnage and folk are still backing him, the folk who never voted for him now must be terrified if they speak out they could end up in prison and lose everything, scary times and it will only get worse with him.

It’s a genuinely worrying state of affairs.

[Hibrandenburg]

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I don’t say this to be facetious but I honestly don’t know how anyone, and I include folk with only a bare minimum grasp of the English language, can listen to him talk and conclude anything other than he’s a ****ing moron.

He hasn’t the brain to be sinister and make it look accidental. He’s an evil, narcissistic, ****ing idiot.

This is an adult businessman who talked about windmills giving you cancer, about injecting yourself with bleach to cure Covid, who thought electric boats would electrocute you at sea, who calls everything beautiful, who is a pathological liar, a sex offender, a fraudster…

He’s a ****ing idiot. No question about it.

It takes one monologue from him for you to understand how stupid the fat **** is. He can barely string a coherent sentence together, he’s an imbecile.

It’s absolutely mental that he’s found himself as president twice.

The schooling system in the US mirrors US society, they have the best and the worst. Trump actually talks like a huge amount of US citizens and they feel he is representative of them.

Same in the UK, I recently had an extended chat with a high ranking UK politician who is by no means like Trump but comes from a very working class background, whilst eloquent they have a very strong regional dialect. They have come under scrutiny from the UK's right wing press for drinking in a wine bar or how they dress, but every time they attack them their support feels like they are being attacked. This is the same with Farage and others of his ilk, the more their lies are called out the more their support feel their ideals are under attack and the more they stand behind those they feel represent their viewpoint.

Sometimes what we find distasteful in politicians is exactly that what attracts others to them.

[Bristolhibby]

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The schooling system in the US mirrors US society, they have the best and the worst. Trump actually talks like a huge amount of US citizens and they feel he is representative of them.

Same in the UK, I recently had an extended chat with a high ranking UK politician who is by no means like Trump but comes from a very working class background, whilst eloquent they have a very strong regional dialect. They have come under scrutiny from the UK's right wing press for drinking in a wine bar or how they dress, but every time they attack them their support feels like they are being attacked. This is the same with Farage and others of his ilk, the more their lies are called out the more their support feel their ideals are under attack and the more they stand behind those they feel represent their viewpoint.

Sometimes what we find distasteful in politicians is exactly that what attracts others to them.

How Farage has painted himself as a “man of the people” I’ll never know.

Son of a City Stockbroker and attended the Independent Dulwich School.

Aye, but he likes a smoke and takes a pint. FFS!

J

[BILLYHIBS]

The Donald is a convicted felon fraudster and bankrupt ( imagine a casino going bankrupt? ) should be nowhere near the White House the State Pen would be more appropriate

[Bostonhibby]

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I don’t say this to be facetious but I honestly don’t know how anyone, and I include folk with only a bare minimum grasp of the English language, can listen to him talk and conclude anything other than he’s a ****ing moron.

He hasn’t the brain to be sinister and make it look accidental. He’s an evil, narcissistic, ****ing idiot.

This is an adult businessman who talked about windmills giving you cancer, about injecting yourself with bleach to cure Covid, who thought electric boats would electrocute you at sea, who calls everything beautiful, who is a pathological liar, a sex offender, a fraudster…

He’s a ****ing idiot. No question about it.

It takes one monologue from him for you to understand how stupid the fat **** is. He can barely string a coherent sentence together, he’s an imbecile.

It’s absolutely mental that he’s found himself as president twice.

In the main, he is his core vote personified once you strip out those who saw it as a chance to make a financial killing in all the chaos.

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[Bostonhibby]

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How Farage has painted himself as a “man of the people” I’ll never know.

Son of a City Stockbroker and attended the Independent Dulwich School.

Aye, but he likes a smoke and takes a pint. FFS!

J

Grifter.

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[Ozyhibby]

Great result for Carmen in Canada and the maple Maga lost his seat.


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[Stevie Reid]

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And what does all that say about the people that voted him in, some of these people are absolutely bonkers who have clearly been brainwashed in to believing he would deliver for the people of America and he has brought carnage and folk are still backing him, the folk who never voted for him now must be terrified if they speak out they could end up in prison and lose everything, scary times and it will only get worse with him.

It's not politics anymore, this has gone way beyond that - and that's why I can see no way back.

I posted previously about Trump giving people license to be their worst selves. That's what his whole movement is all about. He is utterly shameless and allows his supporters to be too.

They don't have political points of view that can be rationally argued against. This is their identity, their entire sense of self - they are MAGA. Nothing will ever change that, certainly not anything Trump says or does - regardless of how negatively it affects them or the country.

Their worldview, thanks to Trump, is that everyone not in their circle is a dangerous enemy that must either bend to their will, or be subject to their rights being removed. They are there to be bullied and taken advantage of, and any suffering they endure is to the enjoyment of MAGA. A recent example of that was seeing Trump and Bukele smugly laughing at the fate of the El Salvadorian man who had been wrongly imprisoned.

The official government Twitter accounts are now essentially troll accounts, in the vein of Fox News, and are all geared towards "owning the libs". A huge swathe of the US population are now completely brainwashed cult members. Empathy simply does not exist in their world, and their whole society will breakdown as a result of it.

[Stevie Reid]

There is no "almost" and there is no way back:

https://x.com/mehdirhasan/status/1916943527147119068

[Smartie]

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It's not politics anymore, this has gone way beyond that - and that's why I can see no way back.

I posted previously about Trump giving people license to be their worst selves. That's what his whole movement is all about. He is utterly shameless and allows his supporters to be too.

They don't have political points of view that can be rationally argued against. This is their identity, their entire sense of self - they are MAGA. Nothing will ever change that, certainly not anything Trump says or does - regardless of how negatively it affects them or the country.

Their worldview, thanks to Trump, is that everyone not in their circle is a dangerous enemy that must either bend to their will, or be subject to their rights being removed. They are there to be bullied and taken advantage of, and any suffering they endure is to the enjoyment of MAGA. A recent example of that was seeing Trump and Bukele smugly laughing at the fate of the El Salvadorian man who had been wrongly imprisoned.

The official government Twitter accounts are now essentially troll accounts, in the vein of Fox News, and are all geared towards "owning the libs". A huge swathe of the US population are now completely brainwashed cult members. Empathy simply does not exist in their world, and their whole society will breakdown as a result of it.

I heard it recently described as “sado-populism” which I thought was fairly apt. It’s definitely a sort of populism and the bond that exists between the followers seems to be an enjoyment of cruelty towards the weak, or outsiders.

Folk I know from where I grew up (small town Scotland) love Trump. I hesitate to call them mates any more, but they all seem to have the common characteristic of being horrible ***** too. It’s a bond of cruelty and a total inability to make the sort of decision that leads you to make your own life better.

[Paulie Walnuts]

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I don’t say this to be facetious but I honestly don’t know how anyone, and I include folk with only a bare minimum grasp of the English language, can listen to him talk and conclude anything other than he’s a ****ing moron.

He hasn’t the brain to be sinister and make it look accidental. He’s an evil, narcissistic, ****ing idiot.

This is an adult businessman who talked about windmills giving you cancer, about injecting yourself with bleach to cure Covid, who thought electric boats would electrocute you at sea, who calls everything beautiful, who is a pathological liar, a sex offender, a fraudster…

He’s a ****ing idiot. No question about it.

It takes one monologue from him for you to understand how stupid the fat **** is. He can barely string a coherent sentence together, he’s an imbecile.

It’s absolutely mental that he’s found himself as president twice.

I agree. I think for a good while I just refused to believe someone so stupid could end up being elected twice

[McD]

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I don’t say this to be facetious but I honestly don’t know how anyone, and I include folk with only a bare minimum grasp of the English language, can listen to him talk and conclude anything other than he’s a ****ing moron.

He hasn’t the brain to be sinister and make it look accidental. He’s an evil, narcissistic, ****ing idiot.

This is an adult businessman who talked about windmills giving you cancer, about injecting yourself with bleach to cure Covid, who thought electric boats would electrocute you at sea, who calls everything beautiful, who is a pathological liar, a sex offender, a fraudster…

He’s a ****ing idiot. No question about it.

It takes one monologue from him for you to understand how stupid the fat **** is. He can barely string a coherent sentence together, he’s an imbecile.

It’s absolutely mental that he’s found himself as president twice.

When you hear him talk, the nonsense he spouts, but the US media don’t hold him to account at all, he’s never challenged on anything he says, so he can make statements of outright lies and propaganda, and nothing is said to counter that.


The media hear aren’t much better, but I don’t think they’re quite as bad.

[Ozyhibby]

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When you hear him talk, the nonsense he spouts, but the US media don’t hold him to account at all, he’s never challenged on anything he says, so he can make statements of outright lies and propaganda, and nothing is said to counter that.


The media hear aren’t much better, but I don’t think they’re quite as bad.

I think there are plenty people calling him out for his lies, the problem is that the media you refer to is no longer dominant. I think that social media is way more important and it’s only now that democrats are starting to realise this. Touring the CNN, MSNBC etc studios is no longer the most effective way to reach people. It’s through Tik Tok, X, YouTube, Bluesky and podcasts. Or you go direct like Bernie and AOC and hold massive rally’s which are then clipped and played on those platforms.
The biggest podcast in the world right now is anti Trump so it’s not like there is nobody speaking out against him.


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[Billy Whizz]

I hope the UK Government don’t bow to his pressure to give Turnberry an Open
It’s a beautiful course, in a lovely part of the world, but please no!

[Smartie]

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I hope the UK Government don’t bow to his pressure to give Turnberry an Open
It’s a beautiful course, in a lovely part of the world, but please no!

It would be great to see the Open back at Turnberry... but absolutely not whilst it is Trump's.

I'd actually be furious if our government were seriously trying to facilitate this.

[Ozyhibby]

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I hope the UK Government don’t bow to his pressure to give Turnberry an Open
It’s a beautiful course, in a lovely part of the world, but please no!

It’s the UK govt applying the pressure. Starmer is making the UK full MAGA.


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[Kato]

The nonsense, stupid divisive policies and lies are the point. The more emotive and incredulous the better.

Meanwhile any semblance of legitimate governance is eroded further and the oligarchs keep getting richer, faster.

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[Keith_M]

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I hope the UK Government don’t bow to his pressure to give Turnberry an Open
It’s a beautiful course, in a lovely part of the world, but please no!

Too late, already happening.

"If Starmer is willing to help Trump host a lucrative golf tournament, will he caddy for him too?"
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ment-2028-open

[Hibbyradge]

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It would be great to see the Open back at Turnberry... but absolutely not whilst it is Trump's.

I'd actually be furious if our government were seriously trying to facilitate this.

It would stick in my craw, for sure, but I'd rather give the orange clown an open than have economic chaos and tariffs.

If that's all it would take, I'd suck it up

[Ozyhibby]

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It would stick in my craw, for sure, but I'd rather give the orange clown an open than have economic chaos and tariffs.

If that's all it would take, I'd suck it up

You want to make a deal and beggar thy neighbour?


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[Hibbyradge]

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You want to make a deal and beggar thy neighbour?


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You'd sacrifice the UK economy for the sake of a game of golf?

[Ozyhibby]

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You'd sacrifice the UK economy for the sake of a game of golf?

I think in the long run you stand up for the UK economy by taking the Canadian approach rather than the Starmer approach. There is a lot to be said for self respect.
Starmer is going to make the King of Canada roll out the red carpet for the man who wants to invade it.

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[Smartie]

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You'd sacrifice the UK economy for the sake of a game of golf?

I just have a problem with doing deals with the devil and giving bullies what they've wanted all along.

If holding the Open at Turnberry turned Donald Trump into an adult who behaved normally then it would be a small price to pay and well worthwhile.

It wouldn't. He's a dick, and the whole world needs to stand together and stand up to him - even if part of that tactic involves sending Starmer as his pal to cuddle up to him nauseatingly at times and let him think he's getting his own way.

We've got "cards" - holding the open at Turnberry, trips to visit the King etc. These cards should be used to extract the absolute maximum not just for the UK but the entire world and not given away cheaply. Unless we were to be receiving an awful lot, these "Trump cards" should be kept in our pocket.

[Ozyhibby]

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I just have a problem with doing deals with the devil and giving bullies what they've wanted all along.

If holding the Open at Turnberry turned Donald Trump into an adult who behaved normally then it would be a small price to pay and well worthwhile.

It wouldn't. He's a dick, and the whole world needs to stand together and stand up to him - even if part of that tactic involves sending Starmer as his pal to cuddle up to him nauseatingly at times and let him think he's getting his own way.

We've got "cards" - holding the open at Turnberry, trips to visit the King etc. These cards should be used to extract the absolute maximum not just for the UK but the entire world and not given away cheaply. Unless we were to be receiving an awful lot, these "Trump cards" should be kept in our pocket.

They don’t work though? We have the same tariffs as everyone else. And we look weak in the process. It’s embarrassing.


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I think in the long run you stand up for the UK economy by taking the Canadian approach rather than the Starmer approach. There is a lot to be said for self respect.
Starmer is going to make the King of Canada roll out the red carpet for the man who wants to invade it.

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Nail, hammer, heid.

I've got a Canadian relative somewhere, how do I get a passport?

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