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    I wonder if Vente would consider another crack at Scottish Football now we have a better team. He might be looking at Cadden whipping in excellent crosses every week and fancy his chances of scoring a load. He could be like a new signing replacing Gayle and taking the pressure off Boyle a bit who will be a year older


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    Quote Originally Posted by worcesterhibby View Post
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    you can be absolutely sure that Rangers do see us as a threat next season. If they can take a key player away from us, they will. I just hope Triantus looks at the state of The Rangers and sees his future elsewhere ( Easter road ideally)
    Rangers will not see us as a threat. Not in a million years will they consider any of us below them as such. They'll do what they always do and sign £5/6/7m worth of players for their new manager and push for the title even if they're so far off Celtic still. To split the Old Firm you need about 75 points and that still relies on Rangers being the worst version of themselves that season, the rest of us aren't getting that amount. The worst Celtic team of the last 15 years still finished 14 points ahead of arguably the best Hibs team of the same period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Centre Hawf View Post
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    Rangers will not see us as a threat. Not in a million years will they consider any of us below them as such. They'll do what they always do and sign £5/6/7m worth of players for their new manager and push for the title even if they're so far off Celtic still. To split the Old Firm you need about 75 points and that still relies on Rangers being the worst version of themselves that season, the rest of us aren't getting that amount. The worst Celtic team of the last 15 years still finished 14 points ahead of arguably the best Hibs team of the same period.
    maybe, maybe, but it’s not stopped Rangers or Celtic taking our best players in the past, despite their protestations that the standard of the league makes it hard for them in Europe. They love being much better than everyone else in the league and they both LOVE proving it by hoovering up the best SPFL players for fun, when they can. Particularly if the can unsettle the player and then lowball us.

    we did a great job of resisting it with SJM, we just don’t have the same power over the fate of Triantus.

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    I wonder if Vente would consider another crack at Scottish Football now we have a better team. He might be looking at Cadden whipping in excellent crosses every week and fancy his chances of scoring a load. He could be like a new signing replacing Gayle and taking the pressure off Boyle a bit who will be a year older
    I think Vente has more or less indicated he wants to move and with his contract situation is probably best for all parties , with him doing well we will hopefully make a tidy profit . It will all be needed as we don’t know what’s happening with Myko, Boyle , Gayle and Youan yet?

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    League 2 Records

    Toney 1 goal every 255 mins
    Watkins 1 goal every 246 mins
    McKirdy 1 goal every 205 mins
    Goals per minute is always a fairly misleading stat imo.

    It’s always trotted out when someone hasn’t scored a particularly impressive amount of goals. The stat obviously doesn’t tell us why they haven’t scored a very impressive amount. For example, if McKirdy has a record like that, you’d expect him to have more than 34 in 131 in that league. Ultimately his goals per minute is like that because he spent so much time as a League Two sub striker, starting 76 and being subbed on in 55. Compare that to Watkins who had 21 goals in 68 games and started 55 while being subbed on in 13 then you start to see more of a picture.

    Dwight Gayle for example has a better goals to minute ratio than Boyle this season in the league. He hasn’t been better or more productive than Boyle though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by worcesterhibby View Post
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    maybe, maybe, but it’s not stopped Rangers or Celtic taking our best players in the past, despite their protestations that the standard of the league makes it hard for them in Europe. They love being much better than everyone else in the league and they both LOVE proving it by hoovering up the best SPFL players for fun, when they can. Particularly if the can unsettle the player and then lowball us.

    we did a great job of resisting it with SJM, we just don’t have the same power over the fate of Triantus.
    Don't disagree that it won't stop them taking a Triantis if they want to, and while I would normally say that the days of the Glasgow two hoovering up the talent in the league has sorta died off, but I think Rangers have been etching closer to getting back to that with the likes of Barron, Cameron, Souttar, Wright etc.

    Triantis I think would be a good signing for them sadly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilson View Post
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    In saying that your own first sentence was rendered redundant.
    Good players can come from anywhere but it's still relevant to consider the level they're playing at when you're watching YouTube reels. McKirdy was just a recent example of a signing from League Two that is fresh in the mind. It's easy for Donegal to get excited. As my Granny would have said, Ca' Canny.

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    I think Vente has more or less indicated he wants to move and with his contract situation is probably best for all parties , with him doing well we will hopefully make a tidy profit . It will all be needed as we don’t know what’s happening with Myko, Boyle , Gayle and Youan yet?
    You can throw Hoillet, Miller and Rocky in there as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts View Post
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    Goals per minute is always a fairly misleading stat imo.

    It’s always trotted out when someone hasn’t scored a particularly impressive amount of goals. The stat obviously doesn’t tell us why they haven’t scored a very impressive amount. For example, if McKirdy has a record like that, you’d expect him to have more than 34 in 131 in that league. Ultimately his goals per minute is like that because he spent so much time as a League Two sub striker, starting 76 and being subbed on in 55. Compare that to Watkins who had 21 goals in 68 games and started 55 while being subbed on in 13 then you start to see more of a picture.

    Dwight Gayle for example has a better goals to minute ratio than Boyle this season in the league. He hasn’t been better or more productive than Boyle though.
    The numbers were simply presented without comment to conplement the basic goals per game numbers presented.

    In fact, your post strengthens my argument that to get a clearer picture of a player, you really have to drill further into what they are doing rather than simply making a judgement based on where they play or their top level stats.

    Without a doubt, had Watkins being playing in EFL2 now and been linked to us, their would be numerous posts on this thread dismissing him due to where he plays and citing McKirdy as an example.

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    You can throw Hoillet, Miller and Rocky in there as well
    Forgot about Hoilett in fairness , was meaning more on our attacking options which could be the area we see the biggest change too if we don’t retain some ..

    Though your right about Miller and Rocky in the defence who would be a big miss

    Kwon , Triantis in midfield and Triantis would be another big miss ..

    There’s a few players we have while not impossible but it will be hard to find suitable replacements I think if they leave or we can’t get them back .

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    What I would love to see is Bournemouth buying Triantis from Sunderland and loaning him to us for the season.

    He then gets European experience and develops in his best position.

    At only 21 he definitely has time to develop into a Premiership player.

    Will Bournemouth take a punt?

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    Jamie McGrath available for selection for Aberdeen tomorrow. Wasn't expecting to see him in and around the Aberdeen squad before the end of the season and before joining Hibs.

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    Jamie McGrath available for selection for Aberdeen tomorrow. Wasn't expecting to see him in and around the Aberdeen squad before the end of the season and before joining Hibs.
    Agent McGrath

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unseen work View Post
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    That lad from Salford surely won’t be coming here.

    Salford will likely be paying him a decent amount and championship teams will be well aware of him.
    Salford are currently skint, they are not paying him a lot. He’s no where near the required level for SPL yet


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    I wonder if Vente would consider another crack at Scottish Football now we have a better team. He might be looking at Cadden whipping in excellent crosses every week and fancy his chances of scoring a load. He could be like a new signing replacing Gayle and taking the pressure off Boyle a bit who will be a year older
    If he signed an extension then yes, but the club and playerboth keen to part ways by what's been said on each side lately. No point losing someone at the end of next season we forked out good cash on for nothing. Especially on the back of a good season he's had for a diddy Dutch team. He will get cashed in this summer.

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    If McGrath has a stormer today does he play next week. That he has to be a pretty strange position for a player in that scenario.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicho87 View Post
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    If McGrath has a stormer today does he play next week. That he has to be a pretty strange position for a player in that scenario.
    He won’t play today

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    Jamie McGrath available for selection for Aberdeen tomorrow. Wasn't expecting to see him in and around the Aberdeen squad before the end of the season and before joining Hibs.
    He's Aberdeens best player. Would be daft not to play him today if he's available. Even if he's moving to a bigger club at the end of the season.

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    He won’t play today
    Don’t think he’ll start but if Aberdeen a chasing a goal I don’t think it’s inconceivable

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    What’s been verdict on Allan Campbell’s spell at Dundee Utd? I noticed he was an unused sub against St Johnstone was hooked before the hour mark against Hearts.

    There was a lot of teeth gnashing on here that we didn’t sign him in January, should be in for him in the summer?

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    What’s been verdict on Allan Campbell’s spell at Dundee Utd? I noticed he was an unused sub against St Johnstone was hooked before the hour mark against Hearts.

    There was a lot of teeth gnashing on here that we didn’t sign him in January, should be in for him in the summer?
    General consensus is he’s been rotten. A well dodged moment from us even if Manneh hasn’t made an impact yet either.

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    What’s been verdict on Allan Campbell’s spell at Dundee Utd? I noticed he was an unused sub against St Johnstone was hooked before the hour mark against Hearts.

    There was a lot of teeth gnashing on here that we didn’t sign him in January, should be in for him in the summer?
    I Dont think we need him were decent options in the middle of the park with McGrath and Manneh. But I would like us to add pace out wide and upfront.We will also need a bigger squad if we get into Europe, don't think we have enough at present to cover thur sun games. But I'm confident it's under control and we are speaking to players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CapitalGreen View Post
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    What’s been verdict on Allan Campbell’s spell at Dundee Utd? I noticed he was an unused sub against St Johnstone was hooked before the hour mark against Hearts.

    There was a lot of teeth gnashing on here that we didn’t sign him in January, should be in for him in the summer?
    I cant remember much gnashing of teeth on here because we didnt go for Campbell unless I missed the posts. I would have been in favour of signing him based on what I saw of him in the past but on recent performances that Ive seen on tv he looked way off the player he was at Well and early doors in England.

    The recent game at tiny he looked like he had been plucked from the pub leagues in Edinburgh and I cant think of anything positive he done in that game.

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    He won’t play today
    Starts on the bench. Hopefully with a super sub appearance

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoomtownHibees View Post
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    Starts on the bench. Hopefully with a super sub appearance
    Just back from a long term injury. Hope he doesn’t feature for them at all this season and comes in for pre-season fresh and raring to go.

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    Just back from a long term injury. Hope he doesn’t feature for them at all this season and comes in from pre-season fresh and raring to go.
    Well I’d be more than happy for him to have a wee 2nd half appearance towards the end of todays game and score the winner

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    Quote Originally Posted by Centre Hawf View Post
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    General consensus is he’s been rotten. A well dodged moment from us even if Manneh hasn’t made an impact yet either.
    It would be interesting to see how he might have fared with us instead of the Arabs - we seem to have better management and coaching so that players settle in and progress well - not so sure about the Arabs - Jim Goodwin for starters 😡

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    It would be interesting to see how he might have fared with us instead of the Arabs - we seem to have better management and coaching so that players settle in and progress well - not so sure about the Arabs - Jim Goodwin for starters 😡
    I think he’d be struggling to get a game at us tbh .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donegal Hibby View Post
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    I think he’d be struggling to get a game at us tbh .
    Definitely- but we seem to have a good setup and he might have been ok with us but not with the Arabs - who knows and I suppose who cares - we didn’t seem to want him so I trust our guys to have had a very good reason for this - different days for us - thank goodness 😁

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    Quote Originally Posted by scm70nyd1973 View Post
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    It would be interesting to see how he might have fared with us instead of the Arabs - we seem to have better management and coaching so that players settle in and progress well - not so sure about the Arabs - Jim Goodwin for starters 😡
    I think the guys a shadow of himself. He’s struggled everywhere he’s been for about 2 years now. Maybe it’s injuries or fitness or just life getting in the way, but at this point I’d be avoiding him entirely.

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