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    Quote Originally Posted by keep the faith View Post
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    I'm hoping for no new signings. Extend Rocky, Boyle and Miller. Hoilet for another year and sell Yoane and Vente. Use that money for a hopeful Triantis bid. Done!
    Would say we have to make new signings but our top targets should be Rocky and Miller. Got to be keeping Boyle aswell and with the year option is a no brainer. I'd also like to see Levitt extend now he's showing the quality he has.

    We will lose Youan, Gayle, Myko and possibly Hoilett from those contributing. Kwon, Bursik, Vente, Tavares, Kenneh - there'll be plenty movement in the summer.

    McGrath and Manneh in the door already.


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    Out of contract but would be due Dundee a development fee northwards of £500k.
    Would it be that high? He's been a first pick for the latter half of this season, but in and out before that. Dropped out of the team after they got promoted?

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    Would it be that high? He's been a first pick for the latter half of this season, but in and out before that. Dropped out of the team after they got promoted?
    He was injured at the start and then again toward the end of the season last year for Dundee that's why he dropped out after the split.

    Still played a decent amount of games in a midfield alongside Cameron, McCowan and Sylla last season. Was a hernia injury that kept him out if I remember correctly.

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    Smith

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    Iredale Rocky ohora marv

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    Triantis Mcgrath newell NMW levitt campbell mnneh

    Boyle bowie gayle hoilett rudi


    If we can keep that squad together, sell tavares/youan/vente to fund triantis deal, then we only really need a GK, CM and a striker. For once we might actually be well prepared for european playoffs rather than having to stick someones mate in goals like we have previous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 500miles View Post
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    Would it be that high? He's been a first pick for the latter half of this season, but in and out before that. Dropped out of the team after they got promoted?
    The development fee set by Tribunal for Connor Barron was £640k + £250k in potential add-ons and a sell on clause.

    Mulligan is the same age as Barron, has played more senior games, has more international caps. He has been developed by Dundee longer than Barron spent at Aberdeen.

    I imagine he’ll move South as any fee to move domestically will prove to prohibitive and nobody will want to risk a tribunal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CapitalGreen View Post
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    The development fee set by Tribunal for Connor Barron was £640k + £250k in potential add-ons and a sell on clause.

    Mulligan is the same age as Barron, has played more senior games, has more international caps. He has been developed by Dundee longer than Barron spent at Aberdeen.
    Then I’d personally be passing on Mulligan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CapitalGreen View Post
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    The development fee set by Tribunal for Connor Barron was £640k + £250k in potential add-ons and a sell on clause.

    Mulligan is the same age as Barron, has played more senior games, has more international caps. He has been developed by Dundee longer than Barron spent at Aberdeen.

    I imagine he’ll move South as any fee to move domestically will prove to prohibitive and nobody will want to risk a tribunal.
    Does it make a difference what European grading the selling club are? (Not sure grading is the right word but hopefully you know what I mean). Sure it’s linked to facilities, number of coaches etc…..

    If so, are Aberdeen and Dundee at the same level? If not, I think they would be due less than Aberdeen were for Barron?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donegal Hibby View Post
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    Seen this guy mentioned on a championship club forum …

    https://x.com/jscrimpSTATS/status/1845211908636323897
    Youan without the sore toe

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    Quote Originally Posted by bingo70 View Post
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    Does it make a difference what European grading the selling club are? (Not sure grading is the right word but hopefully you know what I mean). Sure it’s linked to facilities, number of coaches etc…..

    If so, are Aberdeen and Dundee at the same level? If not, I think they would be due less than Aberdeen were for Barron?
    It does for the FIFA calculation. The SFA don’t publish their methodology so we can only guess but i imagine it will take that into account too.

    Dundee’s academy is the level below Aberdeen which is why I don’t think they’ll get as much as Barron went for (£640-890k), and closer to £500k is more likely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theonlywayisup View Post
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    I'm getting Dhanda "split the Old Firm" vibes
    Yep. It needs to be remembered this group could still end up finishing 5th. And even a chance we might not be in european competition if Hearts or Aberdeen shock everyone and win the cup. Despite the amazing run and the fun we’ve all had, we’ve achieved nowt at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibsbollah View Post
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    Yep. It needs to be remembered this group could still end up finishing 5th. And even a chance we might not be in european competition if Hearts or Aberdeen shock everyone and win the cup. Despite the amazing run and the fun we’ve all had, we’ve achieved nowt at this point.
    If Celtic or Aberdeen win the cup - the team that finishes 5th will get into Europe. If St Johstone or Hearts win the cup - only the top 4 qualify for Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donegal Hibby View Post
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    Seen this guy mentioned on a championship club forum …

    https://x.com/jscrimpSTATS/status/1845211908636323897
    Remember how many goals Harry McKirdy scored in that league

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    Youan without the sore toe
    So he’s quality then and would be one of our best players?

    In that case sign him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibernian Verse View Post
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    Remember how many goals Harry McKirdy scored in that league
    McKirdy scored more goals in that league than Ollie Watkins and Ivan Toney. Should probably judge players as individuals on their own merits rather than tarring every player with the same brush based simply on where they came from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibs3-2 View Post
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    Smith

    Cadden Miller

    Iredale Rocky ohora marv

    Cadden Obita

    Triantis Mcgrath newell NMW levitt campbell mnneh

    Boyle bowie gayle hoilett rudi


    If we can keep that squad together, sell tavares/youan/vente to fund triantis deal, then we only really need a GK, CM and a striker. For once we might actually be well prepared for european playoffs rather than having to stick someones mate in goals like we have previous.

    I think we could have a few of the young lads in the squad as well, especially if we make it into Europe

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    Like others I'd like to see extensions for Boyle, Miller, Rocky and Hoilett. Plus use the £3million we get for Vente to buy Triantis

    So we would still need:

    New 2nd goalie
    Replacement for Dwight Gayle
    Replacement for Myko

    We need at least two GOOD players for event position

    Goalies - Smith + Alex Paulsen ? (or another)
    Right centre back - Miller + Marvin
    Centre Back - Rocky + O'Hora
    Left Centre Back - Iredale + Obita

    Right wing back - C Cadden + Megwa ?
    Left Wing Back - N. Cadden + ? (Obita can cover but not if Iredale is also injured)

    Midfield - Triantis/Newell, McGrath/Campbell, Manneh/Levitt, Rudi/NMW

    Forwards - Bowie/ ? Boyle/ ? Hoilett/?

    I'm assuming the following will be away or retired:

    Vente, Youan, Kwon, Bursik, Tavares, Delfierre, Kenneh, Gayle

    It's up front that we have the most to get sorted... right now it's basically Bowie and no one else... so we need to get Boyle and Hoilett sorted or we are looking for up to four new forwards!! since as it stands we would be losing Boyle, Hoilett, Myko and Gayle

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    Quote Originally Posted by CapitalGreen View Post
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    McKirdy scored more goals in that league than Ollie Watkins and Ivan Toney. Should probably judge players as individuals on their own merits rather than tarring every player with the same brush based simply on where they came from.
    Your right, but it was still a relevant reminder by HV

    Harry was just too lightweight for our league, as well as being severly hampered by illness and bad dress sense. It's not a surprise that we have done much better since we introduced a load of big units to the line up ! Having said that if you are class, you don't need to be a big unit, just look at Dwight Gayle

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    Does it make a difference what European grading the selling club are? (Not sure grading is the right word but hopefully you know what I mean). Sure it’s linked to facilities, number of coaches etc…..

    If so, are Aberdeen and Dundee at the same level? If not, I think they would be due less than Aberdeen were for Barron?

    A proper can of worms this, if the 2 teams are in the same league would it be reasonable to assume that the clubs spend roughly the same to develop a player. The difference being the clubs with bigger budget can try to develop more players. Ultimately the ability of the player and hence the market value of the player should be the main consideration in setting a development fee. In your scenario, if you were a Motherwell fan. Would you not be a bit upset, if you got a lower level of development fee for Lennon Miller than Aberdeen got for Barron, because of the size of the club or some form of grading.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badabing67 View Post
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    A proper can of worms this, if the 2 teams are in the same league would it be reasonable to assume that the clubs spend roughly the same to develop a player. The difference being the clubs with bigger budget can try to develop more players. Ultimately the ability of the player and hence the market value of the player should be the main consideration in setting a development fee. In your scenario, if you were a Motherwell fan. Would you not be a bit upset, if you got a lower level of development fee for Lennon Miller than Aberdeen got for Barron, because of the size of the club or some form of grading.
    It’s always been the case that certain clubs will achieve more for selling a player than other clubs will. We would get more for selling a player than say Ross County would, the scenario you are talking about just sort of formalises it.

    It’s not a pie in the sky figure made up out of nowhere, the figure is a reflection on how much that club spends on youth development. If Celtic spend say 10x more than Hibs to produce young players, I understand why when it comes to a tribunal, that would be taken into account. The organisations involved are trying to make sure it’s worthwhile for clubs to spend money on their youth infrastructure.

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    🚨 Nectarios Triantis' agent (Jem Karacan) speaking to @JamesDodd89 on rowzfc regarding reports of other clubs in Europe being interested in Triantis:

    - 'Playing for the Socceroos is Triantis' dream
    - With the season he's had (at Hibs), there is going to be a lot of interest.
    - We have to weigh a lot of things up. He is contracted to Sunderland who are a huge club - will they get promoted?
    - There's so many things we are still waiting on and those discussions have started to happen.
    - The key will be what does Nectar want.
    - Ultimately, with the world cup - that changes things - he has to play next year.
    - We cannot afford for Nectar to go to a club and be 'bit-part'
    - His experience this season of being one of the main-men - he needs to repeat that.
    - He needs to make sure that if he gets to a club or returns to Sunderland there is going to be opportunities to play.
    - Ultimately, that is our main focus - making sure that he goes to a team where he is going to be an important part of it.
    - It will always come down to the player's performance, and we (agency) are trying to put him in the best environment where he can flourish.'

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    Quote Originally Posted by 04Sauzee View Post
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    🚨 Nectarios Triantis' agent (Jem Karacan) speaking to @JamesDodd89 on rowzfc regarding reports of other clubs in Europe being interested in Triantis:

    - 'Playing for the Socceroos is Triantis' dream
    - With the season he's had (at Hibs), there is going to be a lot of interest.
    - We have to weigh a lot of things up. He is contracted to Sunderland who are a huge club - will they get promoted?
    - There's so many things we are still waiting on and those discussions have started to happen.
    - The key will be what does Nectar want.
    - Ultimately, with the world cup - that changes things - he has to play next year.
    - We cannot afford for Nectar to go to a club and be 'bit-part'
    - His experience this season of being one of the main-men - he needs to repeat that.
    - He needs to make sure that if he gets to a club or returns to Sunderland there is going to be opportunities to play.
    - Ultimately, that is our main focus - making sure that he goes to a team where he is going to be an important part of it.
    - It will always come down to the player's performance, and we (agency) are trying to put him in the best environment where he can flourish.'
    That's fairly positive, in that it doesn't immediately indicate something higher profile than Scotland is essential.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 04Sauzee View Post
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    🚨 Nectarios Triantis' agent (Jem Karacan) speaking to @JamesDodd89 on rowzfc regarding reports of other clubs in Europe being interested in Triantis:

    - 'Playing for the Socceroos is Triantis' dream
    - With the season he's had (at Hibs), there is going to be a lot of interest.
    - We have to weigh a lot of things up. He is contracted to Sunderland who are a huge club - will they get promoted?
    - There's so many things we are still waiting on and those discussions have started to happen.
    - The key will be what does Nectar want.
    - Ultimately, with the world cup - that changes things - he has to play next year.
    - We cannot afford for Nectar to go to a club and be 'bit-part'
    - His experience this season of being one of the main-men - he needs to repeat that.
    - He needs to make sure that if he gets to a club or returns to Sunderland there is going to be opportunities to play.
    - Ultimately, that is our main focus - making sure that he goes to a team where he is going to be an important part of it.
    - It will always come down to the player's performance, and we (agency) are trying to put him in the best environment where he can flourish.'
    Sounds like he should stay at Hibs.

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    Daily Record

    Houston Dynamo are closing in on a deal to sign St Mirren’s top scorer Toyosi Olusanya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 04Sauzee View Post
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    Daily Record

    Houston Dynamo are closing in on a deal to sign St Mirren’s top scorer Toyosi Olusanya.
    The MLS transfer window closes on 23/04, presumably he’ll be moving before then meaning he won’t be facing us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CapitalGreen View Post
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    The MLS transfer window closes on 23/04, presumably he’ll be moving before then meaning he won’t be facing us.
    Hope he likes the heat lol, it's only April so still high 20's/low 30's for now but the real temperatures are coming

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coco Bryce View Post
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    We are looking at a Midfielder from Preston North End.
    The only one I know from there is Ali McCann that used to be at St Johnstone. I'm sure he'd be out of our reach now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by degenerated View Post
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    The only one I know from there is Ali McCann that used to be at St Johnstone. I'm sure he'd be out of our reach now.
    I thought he was a terrific player when he was with them. I rarely notice players playing against us but I thought he always stood out. There were some ridiculous running stats published about him at the time too I’m sure.

    I doubt it’ll be him so this is a really pointless reply to you, would be good if it was though.

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    The only one I know from there is Ali McCann that used to be at St Johnstone. I'm sure he'd be out of our reach now.
    Think he's still contracted for a couple of years and is valued at around £2m on transfermrkt. A fantastic player when he was with St J

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    Quote Originally Posted by CapitalGreen View Post
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    Sounds like he should stay at Hibs.


    We’re the one club with hard currency in playing him every week - anyone else (including Sunderland) are making promises that he’ll have to hope are genuine, whereas he knows he’s valued and would be starting every week with us

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    Quote Originally Posted by CapitalGreen View Post
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    Sounds like he should stay at Hibs.
    I think he's the kind of player Rangers would both sign and play regularly.

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