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    You just know that Rose is holing first. 🫣🫣🫣


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    Well done Rory

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    Rory's done it!

    Gutted for Rose, been in the last two playoffs at the Masters, came out runner-up on both occasions to a long-time Ryder Cup team mate.

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    Never in doubt. 😂😂😂😂. What a moment.

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    Delighted for him!

    Tried his best to chuck if but some mental strength to go on and win it.

    Buzzing for him.

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    Brutal for rose after that round but well done Rory

    That was a fantastic day of golf

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    Phenomenal. He absolutely put me through the ringer but what a win.

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    Couldn't bear to leave the action over the last few holes so just let it go and sat in ma pish.

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    It was stressful enough watching, let alone playing.

    Well done Rory. He’s given us plenty of entertainment over the years.

    Persevere.

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    Oh aye and about £60 to the good 👍

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    That was great entertainment. I was close to going to bed after McIlroy played the 10th as I thought it was over at that point. Glad I never.

    Pleased for Rory but I do feel heart sorry for Justin Rose. Played one of the rounds of his life, one of the great Augusta rounds, and has nothing to show for it (well a hefty payday but you know what I mean). He was very gracious in defeat, as was RM in victory.

    Aberg's meltdown at the last couple cost me a few quid in place money on my bet. The other 2 were long dead by that point.
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    Shame for Rose. He played the better golf yesterday. I've never really been able to warm to McIlroy.

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    Shame for Rose. He played the better golf yesterday. I've never really been able to warm to McIlroy.
    Yes. I like Rose so wouldn't have been upset had he won. Rory shouldn't have 'left the door open' for him though so I guess the right man won in the end.

    Also, following this Hibs team, I'm warming to a bit of history being made!

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    Shame for Rose. He played the better golf yesterday. I've never really been able to warm to McIlroy.
    Rose played great golf Thursday, Friday and Sunday.

    By Sunday all the pressure was off.

    On the playoff he played a great golf shot to get a 7 foot putt. Mcilroy bettered it and won.

    The best player won, what Mcilroy did yesterday with the weight he carried was phenomenal. I doubted it happening many times.

    Mcilroys press conference is brilliant, its raw and honest.

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    Rose played great golf Thursday, Friday and Sunday.

    By Sunday all the pressure was off.

    On the playoff he played a great golf shot to get a 7 foot putt. Mcilroy bettered it and won.

    The best player won, what Mcilroy did yesterday with the weight he carried was phenomenal. I doubted it happening many times.

    Mcilroys press conference is brilliant, its raw and honest.

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    I've found the whole 'heavy burden/heartbreak' narrative around McIlroy a bit tiresome. After a whirlwind early few years, he just hasn't been quite good enough to land that final slam until now. Mentality is as important as talent for players at that level and he's simply been found wanting at the key moments.

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    I've found the whole 'heavy burden/heartbreak' narrative around McIlroy a bit tiresome. After a whirlwind early few years, he just hasn't been quite good enough to land that final slam until now. Mentality is as important as talent for players at that level and he's simply been found wanting at the key moments.
    Hes only the 6th player in the history of the game to win all four majors. The others with 3 haven't really even come close to doing it.

    Regardless of how people see it, it was a huge burden which only got harder at each missed chance and as the time went on.

    Mentality IS massive, but finishing 2nd and 3rd at majors isn’t weak Mentality. Getting over that hurdle is hard.

    Anyway, no one can ever throw it at him again. Hes a legend of the game, an exclusive club of only 6.

    Massive congratulations to Justin Rose too, as I mentioned, he played great golf and is a top guy. All in all, a great tournament and Sunday was brilliant.

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    I've found the whole 'heavy burden/heartbreak' narrative around McIlroy a bit tiresome. After a whirlwind early few years, he just hasn't been quite good enough to land that final slam until now. Mentality is as important as talent for players at that level and he's simply been found wanting at the key moments.
    I think you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. To nail the slam he had to be the best player on one single week of the year against the very best players in the world. It took him 11 tries to do it. It’s absolutely to do with mentality in his case as he has consistently been one or if not the best player in the world that whole time. It’s to do with mentality but the pressure on him to do it is unequalled in the game in recent years with the exception of Mickelson and Spieth. The fact that players of that calibre haven’t done it and I doubt Mickelson will now and I don’t think Spieth has actually maintained his game to do it over a similar timescale speaks volumes to McIlroys resilience determination and talent to finally get the job done. The way he done it magnifies that very mentality. I’d be surprised if he doesn’t win a good few majors before he retires from competitive golf. In fact with The Open being back at Royal Portrush ( a course he has the record round) in Northern Ireland that will be a great opportunity to add that. Quail Hollow next up for the USPGA as well. A course he has won multiple times round. Could a grand Slam in a year be on and hold all four titles at the same time. Tiger held all four but not in the same year. I think only Bobby Jones himself has done something similar winning every major championship ,including us amateur and British amateur, open to him pre Masters. Maybe can’t count that. The sky is the limit for him but arguably he won’t have a better chance for further immortality. He has the mentality but things as simple as a competition draw can go against you. You are being incredibly harsh if not downright wrong about him. Without doubt he is one of the greatest players to have ever played the game. Yup right up there with the greats.
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    You know what was great last night and quite refreshing. They have a no phones rule for spectators, sorry patrons. There’s no way of knowing what’s going on rather than looking at the old fashioned manual leaderboards dotted around the course. The anticipation of the crowds when a change was being made at the top was palpable. When it went up the cheers or groans were tremendous in equal measure. I’d love to see that rule in all tournaments. No one staring at their phones and just living the moment. Marvelous.

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    Hes only the 6th player in the history of the game to win all four majors. The others with 3 haven't really even come close to doing it.

    Regardless of how people see it, it was a huge burden which only got harder at each missed chance and as the time went on.

    Mentality IS massive, but finishing 2nd and 3rd at majors isn’t weak Mentality. Getting over that hurdle is hard.

    Anyway, no one can ever throw it at him again. Hes a legend of the game, an exclusive club of only 6.

    Massive congratulations to Justin Rose too, as I mentioned, he played great golf and is a top guy. All in all, a great tournament and Sunday was brilliant.

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    If a Hibs fan can't see that, nobody can!
    Can you imagine the pressure if he wins the USPGA at Quail Hollow in 4 weeks time and the US Open the following month?
    He would be playing The Open trying to be the first person ever to hold all four major titles in a calendar year and of all places round Royal Portrush in his home Country of Northern Ireland. Not quite the pressure that’s been building for 11 years but would be something else yet again.

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    I've found the whole 'heavy burden/heartbreak' narrative around McIlroy a bit tiresome. After a whirlwind early few years, he just hasn't been quite good enough to land that final slam until now. Mentality is as important as talent for players at that level and he's simply been found wanting at the key moments.
    I think that's incredibly harsh. He's had 11 years of mounting pressure every time The Masters came around. I think his reaction when the winning putt went in and the release of all that emotion shows what it meant.

    How the hell he could play golf under that pressure is unreal.

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    He's here in contrary opinion shocker 😂

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    I could be completely off here, I’m sure someone will correct me if I am, but, in the generation following Tiger and Phil Mickelson, RM is about the only one I can think of that’s maintained such a high standard over the last decade or so. Plenty others have shone briefly then faded, but he always seemed to be there or thereabouts in the majors, and the Ryder Cup.
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    I think you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. To nail the slam he had to be the best player on one single week of the year against the very best players in the world. It took him 11 tries to do it. It’s absolutely to do with mentality in his case as he has consistently been one or if not the best player in the world that whole time. It’s to do with mentality but the pressure on him to do it is unequalled in the game in recent years with the exception of Mickelson and Spieth. The fact that players of that calibre haven’t done it and I doubt Mickelson will now and I don’t think Spieth has actually maintained his game to do it over a similar timescale speaks volumes to McIlroys resilience determination and talent to finally get the job done. The way he done it magnifies that very mentality. I’d be surprised if he doesn’t win a good few majors before he retires from competitive golf. In fact with The Open being back at Royal Portrush ( a course he has the record round) in Northern Ireland that will be a great opportunity to add that. Quail Hollow next up for the USPGA as well. A course he has won multiple times round. Could a grand Slam in a year be on and hold all four titles at the same time. Tiger held all four but not in the same year. I think only Bobby Jones himself has done something similar winning every major championship ,including us amateur and British amateur, open to him pre Masters. Maybe can’t count that. The sky is the limit for him but arguably he won’t have a better chance for further immortality. He has the mentality but things as simple as a competition draw can go against you. You are being incredibly harsh if not downright wrong about him. Without doubt he is one of the greatest players to have ever played the game. Yup right up there with the greats.
    I'm not convinced when you compare him with Woods, Nicklaus, Player or the greatest of them all, Hogan.

    The first three completed their slams in their 20s and all won multiple majors throughout their peak years. Gary Player also won majors across three successive decades. McIlroy hasn't just had an issue with the Masters, he'd failed to win a single major in well over a decade prior to yesterday.

    In Sarazen and Hogan's day, the USPGA was a matchplay tournament (with two rounds of strokeplay qualifying), which meant that you could end up playing over 200 holes of golf to win it. Hogan tended to give it a miss due to the demands on his body after a life-threatening car crash. He also only played one solitary Open Championship and won it (basically to prove a point). Had he not been so badly injured and played more PGAs and Opens not one of the others could have held a candle to him.

    I don't think it's too harsh to suggest McIlroy hasn't had what it takes compared to the relentless mental focus these guys had. But that's not to take away from the fact he's finally completed the full slam tally.

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    I think that's incredibly harsh. He's had 11 years of mounting pressure every time The Masters came around. I think his reaction when the winning putt went in and the release of all that emotion shows what it meant.

    How the hell he could play golf under that pressure is unreal.
    He didn't win any other majors in that time either though. Suggests the pressure wasn't just about the Masters. He had the talent but not the ironclad will to win.

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    I wouldn't be surprised if the floodgates open for him now.

    Relax, enjoy his golf and his talent could take him to many more majors in the next few years

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    I'm not convinced when you compare him with Woods, Nicklaus, Player or the greatest of them all, Hogan.

    The first three completed their slams in their 20s and all won multiple majors throughout their peak years. Gary Player also won majors across three successive decades. McIlroy hasn't just had an issue with the Masters, he'd failed to win a single major in well over a decade prior to yesterday.

    In Sarazen and Hogan's day, the USPGA was a matchplay tournament (with two rounds of strokeplay qualifying), which meant that you could end up playing over 200 holes of golf to win it. Hogan tended to give it a miss due to the demands on his body after a life-threatening car crash. He also only played one solitary Open Championship and won it (basically to prove a point). Had he not been so badly injured and played more PGAs and Opens not one of the others could have held a candle to him.

    I don't think it's too harsh to suggest McIlroy hasn't had what it takes compared to the relentless mental focus these guys had. But that's not to take away from the fact he's finally completed the full slam tally.
    Absolutely he is. The competition and standard of player these days is so much better than back in the day. I will concede the equipment etc is better and possibly easier but the competition level is much much better than back then but equipment the same for competing players no matter what era they are competing against each other. I certainly think it’s much harder to consistently win majors today than back then. I don’t understand the thought that McIlroy has no comparible mental focus. Given what I’ve already said Id argue he’s even more focused and certainly more resilient possibly Hogan apart with his health issues. Absolutely up there with the greats.
    Hogan won all his majors in a 7 year period and absolutely would have won more if the accident didn’t happen.
    No one can compare to woods and Nicklaus IMO but McIlroy is still at the top of his game and still years left in him to get closer.
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    Absolutely he is. The competition and standard of player these days is so much better than back in the day. I will concede the equipment etc is better and possibly easier but the competition level is much much better than back then but equipment the same for competing players no matter what era they are competing against each other. I certainly think it’s much harder to consistently win majors today than back then. I don’t understand the thought that McIlroy has no comparible mental focus. Given what I’ve already said Id argue he’s even more focused and certainly more resilient possibly Hogan apart with his health issues. Absolutely up there with the greats.
    Hogan won all his majors in a 7 year period and absolutely would have won more if the accident didn’t happen.
    No one can compare to woods and Nicklaus IMO but McIlroy is still at the top of his game and still years left in him to get closer.
    Without a doubt. That's not something which can be brushed off. If you're a remotely competent golfer it's now actually hard to hit a truly bad/destructive shot, so forgiving is the equipment. Compare that to to the days of Nicklaus, Player, Watson, Palmer, Trevino etc (my dad used to watch the young Tony Jacklin when he lived near Potter's Bar and says he should have been more regularly in that company but that his short putting destroyed him!) and the phenomenal artistry required to shape a shot when anything slightly off the sweet spot would land you in bother. These guys were also playing more unforgiving courses, particularly links. As such only the very best were regularly competing for the biggest prizes. These days I think it's more a case of never mind the quality feel the width, with so many identikit golfers battling for supremacy. McIlroy is one of the few who has something more to offer, granted, but he really shouldn't have taken 12 years to win another major.

    It's easy to let nostalgia colour your views, but when I used to go to watch those guys at the Open back in the 70s you just had to marvel at the way they could control a shot, often off bone dry lies with barely a blade of grass on them. It's a wholly different experience now, which is why you see the likes of Old Course no longer really being a proper test for drivers with the power of a cannon.

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    Without a doubt. That's not something which can be brushed off. If you're a remotely competent golfer it's now actually hard to hit a truly bad/destructive shot, so forgiving is the equipment. Compare that to to the days of Nicklaus, Player, Watson, Palmer, Trevino etc (my dad used to watch the young Tony Jacklin when he lived near Potter's Bar and says he should have been more regularly in that company but that his short putting destroyed him!) and the phenomenal artistry required to shape a shot when anything slightly off the sweet spot would land you in bother. These guys were also playing more unforgiving courses, particularly links. As such only the very best were regularly competing for the biggest prizes. These days I think it's more a case of never mind the quality feel the width, with so many identikit golfers battling for supremacy. McIlroy is one of the few who has something more to offer, granted, but he really shouldn't have taken 12 years to win another major.

    It's easy to let nostalgia colour your views, but when I used to go to watch those guys at the Open back in the 70s you just had to marvel at the way they could control a shot, often off bone dry lies with barely a blade of grass on them. It's a wholly different experience now, which is why you see the likes of Old Course no longer really being a proper test for drivers with the power of a cannon.
    The players were and are all competing with similar equipment. Skill mindset and determination etc are the only metric that are equivalent. The equipment today helps so much more an average player get lucky (there are many average pros with one major an d a few wins on tour and little else) that it could be argued that McIlroys record is even more remarkable.
    Also remember courses have been lengthened and greens much much faster than they’ve ever been with advances in conditioning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McD View Post
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    I could be completely off here, I’m sure someone will correct me if I am, but, in the generation following Tiger and Phil Mickelson, RM is about the only one I can think of that’s maintained such a high standard over the last decade or so. Plenty others have shone briefly then faded, but he always seemed to be there or thereabouts in the majors, and the Ryder Cup.
    I think you’re spot on… and that this adds to the record of heartache and therefore magnitude of the achievement.

    Rory’s never gone away. He’s competed in all of these majors with a realistic chance of winning, so there was an appropriate level of disappointment every time he fell short, whether that was a mile short or a missed short putt short.

    Jordan Speith and Phil Mickelson are both one short of the career slam iirc. Mickelson’s ship has surely now sailed and Speith’s level has dropped off a bit in recent years. They don’t get spoken about as much as Rory because they haven’t been as consistently strong. Well, Phil did have peak Tiger to think about tbf…

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