Rugby

[Greenbeard]

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‘True Scotland fans’ - I guarantee my Scotland fan credentials will match anyone on this thread. But sure, you speak for the 99% of Scotland fans.

Just remembered you are that annoying happy clapper who loves Townsend and went in the huff when I wasn’t nice about your hero, ‘Mossy’! 😂

Never been called a happy clapper before but I'll not go in the huff at you labelling me so; just smile internally and bow to your superior knowledge and judgement, including you hoping Scotland lose to France so that England can't win the Championship. Wonderful stuff.

[Golden Bear]

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If results go as expected, a Scotland win in France would hand England the championship.

What a complete disaster. Luckily, the French will win easily but it’s made the game pretty much unwatchable for me. I can’t fully support Scotland when I know that a win will hand the 6 Nations to those jammy *******s.

A bizarre viewpoint, personally I'd be delighted with a Scottish win and if the Auld enemy go on to win the championship because of that then so be it.

[JimBHibees]

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It's like watching Hibs being 2-0 up and the manager takes off your striker, creative midfielder and ball winner mid, then putting on sub level players in their place, suddenly the shape of the team is different and we sit a lot deeper, we then walk away at FT with a 2-2 draw feeling really peed off.

The guys that came on should have been better however we had a significant lead and it gave players an opportunity to impress. Not sure all that is on the coach

[He's here!]

I don't understand the rule which denied Wales the try which just might have enabled them to go on an win. What's wrong with evading a tackle?

[Mcbizz1998]

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I don't understand the rule which denied Wales the try which just might have enabled them to go on an win. What's wrong with evading a tackle?

You can’t jump into a tackle. Firstly because it’s deemed dangerous and also because you can’t tackle a man in the air, so if an attacker was allowed to jump means they wouldn’t be able to be legally tackled.

[Mcbizz1998]

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A bizarre viewpoint, personally I'd be delighted with a Scottish win and if the Auld enemy go on to win the championship because of that then so be it.

It’s really, really not.

Just as if a Hibs win would hand hearts the league title, the vast majority of this website wouldn’t be comfortable with us winning. It’s called sporting rivalry, maybe something new to you?

[He's here!]

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You can’t jump into a tackle. Firstly because it’s deemed dangerous and also because you can’t tackle a man in the air, so if an attacker was allowed to jump means they wouldn’t be able to be legally tackled.

Sure I've seen players jump over opponents to reach the try line. Seems a bit of a harsh law. There was a lot if skill involved and it would have been a great try.

[Mcbizz1998]

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Sure I've seen players jump over opponents to reach the try line. Seems a bit of a harsh law. There was a lot if skill involved and it would have been a great try.

That’s the only time it’s allowed, you can jump during the act of scoring a try.

[He's here!]

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That’s the only time it’s allowed, you can jump during the act of scoring a try.

Confusing. It's still potentially dangerous play.

[Mcbizz1998]

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Confusing. It's still potentially dangerous play.

Agree. Think you can dive for the line and jump whilst doing so.

But yeah, it’s confusing. Like a lot of rugby union!

[JimBHibees]

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It’s really, really not.

Just as if a Hibs win would hand hearts the league title, the vast majority of this website wouldn’t be comfortable with us winning. It’s called sporting rivalry, maybe something new to you?

I would be delighted if Scotland beats France don’t care if it meant England winning

[McD]

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Confusing. It's still potentially dangerous play.

You’re not wrong per se, the slight difference is at the try line a player is almost always diving forward, whereas jumping over a tackle is usually leading with a boot or a knee.


Both situations do make it difficult/awkward to tackle the player, and as mcbizz has said, it’s illegal to tackle a player in the air, but it’s not applied in the same way in a try scoring situation. You’ll also be unlikely to see a defending player be penalised for tackling a player in the air if he’s diving forward the try line and the defender attempts a tackle.

[He's here!]

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Agree. Think you can dive for the line and jump whilst doing so.

But yeah, it’s confusing. Like a lot of rugby union!

Also, what's the deal with diving to touch the ball down for a try but having most of you body in touch. Is it OK if your body is airborne when your hands touch the ball down?

[McD]

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Also, what's the deal with diving to touch the ball down for a try but having most of you body in touch. Is it OK if your body is airborne when your hands touch the ball down?

Yep, you’re only considered in touch if you’re touching the ground. Same with the ball, if someone kicks the ball and it goes over the line and back into play before it touches the ground, it’s still in play, unlike football. It’s actually possible for a player to tap the ball back into play whilst it’s in the air as long as the player also isn’t touching the ground (they need to have taken off from within the lines though), which is why kicks to touch generally are put into the stand, it removes the possibility of the opposition managing to keep it in

[Sylar]

Something seriously needs to give over the summer. I know the Lions tour will be a welcome distraction for the SRU, but we cannot go into another Autumn Test/Six Nation cycle with the same setup as this year...that's not to lay blame at any particular door. Like most Scottish sporting institutions, the problems are deeply entrenched and can't be fixed by replacing one guy and his coaching team. Townsend has, in my opinion (which is worth little), taken us as far as he can and in his credit, has us playing some of the best rugby I've seen a Scotland side play in my time. But it feels like we keep coming up against a ceiling, and the current setup (the entire rugby setup in the country) is not equipped to advance us to live with your Ireland's or France's over a sustained competition. Smarter, better paid people than me may have answers as to what's necessary, but frankly I'd take the Irish model of their academy system and replicate it here to get as many young men as possible involved in the sport and bring through a completely new crop of players. I watched their Leinster academy finals highlights on Youtube a few weeks ago and the skills on display were absolutely incredible!

Yesterday wasn't really acceptable (which is strange to say after a BP win). And fair play to Finn for not trying to sugarcoat anything in his reaction. Wales absolutely could not live with us for the opening 40 minutes. Then we switched off thinking 'job done'. Ireland or France don't do that - they keep boot on throat when they're ahead. We lack that ruthlessness. Finn also said we need to be 100% for 80 minutes next week to get something in Paris. Sadly, I fear the worst - even without DuPont, they're a formidable beast just now - just look at their points difference! I couldn't care less who wins the 6N in the end (since it won't be us) and hope we can prove me badly wrong, and we leave Paris with a famous win...

Was another great day out at Murrayfield though, and the atmosphere in town afterwards was very jovial and friendly - I really do love the Welsh fans being in town! We had an added bonus of ending our evening in a hotel where the Scotland team were last night after the game, and we had a great chat with a few of them over the course of the evening. I sadly reckon Jonny Gray's Six Nations might be over though, as he was hobbling pretty badly last night. A real shame as our depth at lock is extremely light!

[cabbageandribs1875]

that French slacking off in the last five mins against Ireland cost them going 3rd in the Rankings, they would have swapped places with them, not that it matters much in the grand scheme of things :)

1. South Africa 92.78
2. New Zealand 90.36
3. Ireland 89.71
4. France 89.51
5. Argentina 84.97
6. England 84.37
7. Scotland 82.36
8. Australia 81.52
9. Fiji 80.07
10.Italy 77.89

[cabbageandribs1875]

Scotland have added Adam Hastings, Jack Mann, Alexander Masibaka and Kyle Steyn to the squad for France

[Golden Bear]

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Scotland have added Adam Hastings, Jack Mann, Alexander Masibaka and Kyle Steyn to the squad for France

I take it Adam has been brought in as cover for the stand off position. He ain't no full back going by his recent display for the Warriors against the Ospreys. Or maybe I'm being unkind to the guy as that was his first game back after being out for a couple of months with an injury.

[cabbageandribs1875]

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I take it Adam has been brought in as cover for the stand off position. He ain't no full back going by his recent display for the Warriors against the Ospreys. Or maybe I'm being unkind to the guy as that was his first game back after being out for a couple of months with an injury.

possibly get some game time later in the game i reckon


the dropped four were Cameron Redpath, Cameron Henderson, Arron Reed & Rory Hutchinson

[cabbageandribs1875]

u20's 47 seconds on the clock Try France 70, the French have scored an average six tries each game against Scotland for the last several games

5 mins Try Scotland, nice con 7-7, French yellow card


there's been a couple of lovely tries for Scotland, the French know they've been in a game

75 mins 45-37

Wales deny England the grand slam and the championship winning 23-12

FT France 45 Scotland 40, and win the championship, would love to see a game like this tomorrow, bummer for the young men scoring 40 points in France but still losing

[JimBHibees]

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u20's 47 seconds on the clock Try France 70, the French have scored an average six tries each game against Scotland for the last several games

5 mins Try Scotland, nice con 7-7, French yellow card


there's been a couple of lovely tries for Scotland, the French know they've been in a game

75 mins 45-37

Wales deny England the grand slam and the championship winning 23-12

FT France 45 Scotland 40, and win the championship, would love to see a game like this tomorrow, bummer for the young men scoring 40 points in France but still losing

Sounds like u20s much more competitive which is surely a positive

[Sylar]

Italy competing well here against Ireland but I fear injuries are going to catch up with them. Lamb and Canone already off injured. Negri about to follow…?

[cabbageandribs1875]

FT Italy 17 Ireland 22

HT Wales 7 England 33, biggest HT lead ever over the Welsh


this is hugely embarrassing for the Welsh 7-54

game on :) 14-54
maybe not

14- 61 astonishing

oh my goodness, wales fluff their restart then england go on for yet another try 14-68, shame, just total utter shame FT

17 straight defeats for the Welsh, worst ever for a top tier side in the professional game


France just need the win v Scotland

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

It's not like the bookies to get it so wrong but, England -10.5, thanks very much

[hibsbollah]

[Scorrie]

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FT Italy 17 Ireland 22

HT Wales 7 England 33, biggest HT lead ever over the Welsh


this is hugely embarrassing for the Welsh 7-54

game on :) 14-54
maybe not

14- 61 astonishing

oh my goodness, wales fluff their restart then england go on for yet another try 14-68, shame, just total utter shame FT

17 straight defeats for the Welsh, worst ever for a top tier side in the professional game


France just need the win v Scotland

That is a shocking result for the Welsh. We should have put 60 points on them last week but we can’t play 80 mins and Townsends subs as well

[Jones28]

Holy **** this is the worst FOS I’ve ever heard.

[cabbageandribs1875]

female piper just not in timing with the fans, she was far too fast

[cabbageandribs1875]

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That is a shocking result for the Welsh. We should have put 60 points on them last week but we can’t play 80 mins and Townsends subs as well

we shoulda coulda, i've not heard an explanation from anyone yet whether it was the players thinking 'job done' or the coach telling them to take it a bit easier, i'd love to know why though, England done exactly what we should have, no let up and get the scoreline in the History books, we had the same approach in Cardiff when we were out of sight and ended up just holding on

[cabbageandribs1875]

we really need a man down :(


17 mins camped in


anyways 10-0 we can get out now

for a bit